Honda ADV 350 Better Than Forza 350 & Yamaha XMAX, Thailand

[@christianguevarra1]

Its so good to have an english moto vlog on thailand for us philippines viewer and other countries who like insights in thailand motorcycle. Keep it up.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@jimellis1810]

Best review I've watched so far. I especially like how you compared it to the other bike models.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. I'm glad you liked it!

[@padawg1]

Thanks for the vid review. I had a Forza on order and I just changed it to the ADV. Im a bigger rider 6'2 300lbs. I travel back and forth from the US and Thailand. So i wont get to ride the bike till Dec when i go back to Hua Hin. I love riding south of Hua HIn its so beautiful and relaxing. Thanks!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You're welcome. 🙏🏼 I like Hua Hin, peaceful. That ADV will be delightful to ride there.

[@Winterstick549]

Eat traditional Thai food, lose weight 😅

[@TravelThailand8]

Pick up a ADV 350 next week. I purchased it for travelling around Thailand and into Myanmar Laos Cambodia Vietnam and China

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Awesome! You're going to love it.

[@NacoleMorrow]

Should of got the xadv instead

[@Trufflestravels]

You're so right. In thailand, the laws are there and are enforced when you're extremely abusive. In the west, it's a money machine.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

The busy hectic traffic and common sense traffic laws make Thailand and other South East Asian countries a joy to ride.

[@Trufflestravels]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple Agreed!

[@Winterstick549]

You have to be trying to break the law to get busted in Thailand. Wear your helmet! 🎉

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

@@Winterstick549 Thats right.

[@davideallegri7015]

I'm not so sure about laws and enforcement. Just check how many yearly deaths on the road. Always on the top 3 country. Here can drive without having a driving licence or completely drunk just get ready with a few 1000 baht and magically no drunk anymore. Ah I forgot, even younger than 10 years are eligible to drive a motorcycle 🎉

[@apo31337]

Thank you very much for the review. You;ve answered all my questions :)

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You're welcome; I'm happy to be helpful.

[@frankstocker5475]

5 Years warranty in France, shows how confident Honda is with its product. I sold my Forza as soon as the 350 ADV arrived in France. Suspension is the deal maker.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Wow, 5 years! That's awesome. ADV 350 ride quality is a huge improvement over the Forza. The suspension is #1 reason I would but that scooter.

[@pommiegranite464]

I have a Forza 350 (and a 300 before that). Test ride of the ADV next week!

[@SBarbati]

Great review. I’ve got mine for a month now and I was concerned that I would miss the power of my other bikes. Turns out the ADV350 has plenty of power to cruise at 80mph at around 7000 rpm on motorway. Top speed for me was around 93mph. As you said it very easy to maneuver in town. This makes the perfect commuter scooter. I went to Thailand a few years ago and during our time there we hired a scooter. It was ok much fun and the weather was sublime. Enjoy sir!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thanks, Sergio! The ADV350 to me is a perfect blend of practicality and fun.

[@thaitraveller9756]

I do vloghing round Thailand live here used to have big bikes touring Europe now go further on adv 150 great around era not speed wise but take it off road on a tour brilliant

[@user-sq5dc6og6u]

But in Thailand you not allowed to drive any kind of bikes on the motorway. It sucks

[@psgivens]

Fantastic review. You hit exactly the points I need to hear with the comparison with the xmax 300 and the adv 150.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@thaitraveller9756]

xmax ok but take adv 150 off road its great fun i go all over thailand vlogging alot of time on the bike love to go off road

[@sharonbraselton4302]

whàts mog between ³00 cc vs 15⁰ cc

[@leoslayer3304]

It’s a 330cc not 350cc, the under seat storage is 48L Xmax is 45L, not a lot of difference, it’s a nice alternative to the Xmax and a better upright riding position IMO

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Yeah I know, my mouth sometimes moves faster than my mind. The specs at the beginning of the video show the 330cc.

[@Casper26699]

i used to have an tmax so im still more of a xmax commuter guy but i love the honesty and layout of this review, bravo

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank You 🙏🏼

[@artstar5994]

GREAT review! Thanks for the top speed test. Now all I need is for it to be sold in the U.S.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! 👊🏼

[@gunadigm1884]

Best review by far.... Very detail and informative.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼

[@brianphuket5951]

Thanks! Great Review, I knew it already, but nice to hear a confirming opinion...

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you🙏🏼

[@Farang_Lifestyles]

Awesome review Jake Snow, I currently ride in Jomtien/Pattaya with some trips to Koh Chang on a 2018 Honda Forza 300 and I am looking to purchase another scooter. This video was very helpful.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼 I'm glad it was helpful.

[@badaboume]

This is by far the best scooter review channel for Thailand 💪🇹🇭🙏

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Wow, thank you! 🙏🏼

[@SolvedMystery-wf1bj]

Very good review, best so far. Thanks 💪 About what you said riding on scooter/motorbike in Thailand compared to riding your home country (in your case USA, my is Finland) it is soooo much enjoyable ride in Thailand. No road rage, you can split, passing over without any honk or middle finger. As you said just relax and enjoy. Althought traffic looks on video so chaotic and grazy but truethly it flow so smoothly. My favourite bikes right now Forza 350cc and ADSV 350 🛵

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You're welcome, and thank you! 👊🏼

[@albertjjimenezp]

Excelente review, hace 2500 km me entregaron la X-adv y es una experiencia increíble, ya quiero que llegue a Colombia para regalarle una a mi esposa quien actualmente conduce la Victory Black que por cierto nos ha sorprendido gratamente metiéndose en cada lio y saliendo airosa en las sorprendentes carreteras del país en nuestras rodadas.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Gracias 🙏🏼 ¡Me encantaría montar en Columbia! He estado en Perú, pero nunca en Colombia.

[@albertjjimenezp]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple Colombia tiene sitios encantadores y durante su recorrido no solo encontrarás climas y paisajes diferentes sino que también enfrentarás carreteras con curvas, pendientes y diferentes calidades de asfaltos, puedes cruzar tres cordilleras y los pueblos cambian de formas, texturas, colores y arquitectura así como paisajes naturales que podrian pertenecer a un realismo mágico. Es una experiencia que de seguro vale la pena vivir. 😸

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

¡Muy bonito, será un lugar fantástico para montar!

[@ChrisinVietnam]

I live in Saigon and no one drives these big scooters that are common in Thailand. They're not so practical as a city bike for Saigon or Bangkok. I drive a Vario which seems very similar to the new Click models I rent in Phuket and Palawan. For longer rides I thought the PCX felt more stable but I hardly ride for more than 40 mins anyway. I used an old Honda Blade for a few hundred km in Ha Giang! They're a good work horse for the hills and twisties I'm not afraid to get scratched up.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I rented a 110cc Honda Vision in Saigon a few months ago. My wife had a Honda Wave in Thailand, which I think is the Blade in Vietnam. I was happy riding the Vision in Saigon traffic. I forgot how crazy busy those streets are during rush hour traffic.

[@neilalexanderclothing8824]

Thank you for your review, I hope this reaches the shores of the Philippines some day.🙏😔 Thailand usually have the benefits of receiving new bikes from manufacturers, but anyway love the well detailed review and continuous comparison with other motorcycle. I'll subscribe to your channel today. Keep it up. Being honest and the enthusiasm when doing a review.😎👌👍 By the way I'm watching from the United Kingdom but I have no plans buying one here but I love if Honda Philippines would care to bring the Honda ADV 350 to the Philippines. I'd drop everything and I'll buy one.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! 🙏🏼 I appreciate your encouraging words.

[@randellt]

Sadly.. It appears the ADV350 will not come to the Philippines.

[@bogzystudios]

Great review sir. That ADV 350 looks gorgeous and powerful. Hope they bring it to Philippines. Ride safe always!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼

[@craigmiller808]

Great video. Im also an expat (UK) living in Thailand. I've had this model on order with my nearest Honda 'Big Wing' dealer near Hua Hin, since it was launched in Thailand 6 months ago but still no sign of an allocation! I believe they are more freely available vis Bangkok dealers but it's frustrating having to wait so long with no useful updates from the dealer!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Wow! I'm surprised the wait is so long. Mr. Deen Big Bike sent me a message asking my opinion about the ADV 350 and if people would rent it. "Absolutely, you should buy," was my response. Two days later, he had a new ADV 350 for me to rent. Also, when I went to dealerships, there was a red ADV 350 for sale in Pattaya. It was there for at least 2 weeks. I still haven't seen an ADV 160 on a showroom floor.

[@thaitraveller9756]

i live in khon kaen have the bikes here but still stick to my adv 150 its so much fun cross country others too heavy go all over thailand vlogging alot of time off the beaten track always getting lost used to have big bikes in the uk always did a big europe trip every year but must admit spent 7 hrs in the saddle of the adv 150 no problem at all very comfy and plenty of luggage space driving down to phuket from khon kaen soon 19 hr drive think about stopping hua hin been before but in lockdown lot of places shut is everything recovering now

[@Fitnessiology]

love it .. i got the low end version for now 160... 350 is my 2023 goal 🙂

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

The ADV 160 is a great scooter!

[@michaeldoherty3119]

I agree with your assessment that a lighter bike is better in the city. I have been driving an ADV 150 for a year in Chiang Rai and appreciate the maneuverability and tbh I really don’t want to drive fast in Thailand. The ADV 150 is quick enough at slow speeds.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I love the ADV 150. It's the best small cc scooter in my opinion.

[@ereinaldy20]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple thanks to indonesia, because honda indonesia designed it based on road conditions in indonesia. because even in Indonesia adv150 is the best small cc scooter at the moment. especially the ADV160 version, because in our opinion the ADV 150 still has a lack of performance, the ADV160 has become perfect because of the many consumer complaints about the power of 150 version.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you for sharing the info. I look forward to riding the ADV 160.

[@ekimandersom4478]

@@ereinaldy20 That 10cc is even noticable ?

[@aaaces01]

@@ekimandersom4478 It will be due to the CVT set up. The configured the 150 for more off-road riding than the PCX so it is intestinally slower but applies the torque earlier at lower speeds. But people don't go off road a lot so they must have put a more conventional set-up for the bike and it will be quicker from rest.

[@beech18]

thanks for the review, just moved to bangkok, gonna get the 160

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! 🙏🏼 You'll love the ADV 160. You might like this ADV 160 vs 350 video I just uploaded if you haven't seen it yet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIuke4idar12d6s

[@johnminichielli8957]

Great review, but your riding reminds me of what my flight instructor said to me when I first started to fly, " There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots".

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Lol, that's right. That's why I ride scooters now after 20 years of riding 1000cc sport bikes. Practical, comfortable, and limited power.

[@janp1840]

I had an X-max 300 for two years - drove 10.000km with it - incl. Touring in the Alpes. Really nice and handsome Bike. Sold it in September for a Honda ADV 350 - and being satisfied! Torque and Sound is good, higher Givi Touring windshield helped (i'm 1,89m). Light and Suspension is much better! Missing a lockable compartement in the front. Fuel consumption ist higher (+0,5L). Good review! Greetings from Germany...😃

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

The front locking compartment is the one thing I wish the ADV had. Touring the Alps is something I must do someday.

[@raymondlowon7799]

Were planning to retire in Hua Hin next year , you got me sold on the ADV 350. Hua Hin is a small city not much traffic and my wife will be with me when we travel . So its a perfect bike and driving down the coast even better.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I agree, it'll be perfect for Hua Hin.

[@erkutgurun]

My PCX125 is too weak uphill, and my Hornet 750 is tempting me a little too much to break the law. So now I'm selling both and getting an ADV350 here in Turkey. I also thought about a Beverly 400 since we dont have a Forza 350 here and only a 250cc. But the Piaggio Beverly looks a little too classic even though it's more powerful and cheaper than the ADV350. That I will save for an older age perhaps. And the Xmax300 is not as superior as the Honda in many ways. So looking forward to my new ride. Thanks Jake.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You're welcome, and thank you for sharing your thoughts. 🙏🏼

[@PriscilaYandhaha]

Bom review! Por aqui, seguimos esperando chegar ao Brasil 🙂

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you 🙏🏼. I would love to ride in Brazil. I feel lucky the ADV 350 is in Thailand.

[@mariovh]

I just bought the 160 and it’s a fantastic machine, much better than the 150 I had before …more power and acceleration which I needed here in the Philippines The 350 hasn’t been here and I think it won’t because of the price Great review and enjoy the ride Especially in Pattaya 😜 Been there enough to know there’s nothing like Pattaya.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I love the ADV 150, so I'm very happy to hear the 160 is even better! I'm considering buying a 160 so my Thai wife can also ride it. She's too short to safely ride the bigger scooters.

[@mariovh]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple it’s a bit lower for the Asian market so I’m sure she will also benefit from it. You won’t regret it and she will love it I have the matte White , have seen the black & Red and they are all Beautiful. So you can’t go wrong. Good luck and drive safe

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Nice, I like the white.

[@apollothemanboy]

ADV350 and 750 is available on Honda Big Bike Makati

[@mariovh]

@@apollothemanboy Really how does it cost?

[@marcofluff]

I appreciated the ride quality over bumbs in comparison with other scooters

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Ride quality is the most essential thing as I get older. 👊🏼

[@jkf663]

Good review buddy. You've just got a new subscriber. As a newbe in Thailand I am renting a bike while I am getting settled & deciding what bike I will eventually purchase. Am glad to get some good knowledge about the ADV 350. Seems very favorable as an option I should definitely consider. I've been leaning toward the Forza 350 and now will throw the ADV into the salad bowl. ~ Thanks for a good review and will look forward to seeing what else you have out there. KUTGW!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼 I hope you can rent the ADV 350 and Forza. For me, it's a night-and-day difference.

[@denale688]

I’ve been riding scooters for a dozen or more years now .. scooters have really turned me away from motorcycles in general .. mainly from the ease of use and trunk space .. my 1st large scooter was the Suzuki Burgman 400 .. the main thing that I’ve found is that I wish they would put an extra cylinder for easier riding at higher speeds .. But in the Philippines to be able to ride on the toll roads a 400cc or larger is required .. so to me the perfect scooter would be a Honda ADV 400cc 2cylinder single overhead cam .. I really like the look of the ADV reminds me of the BMW scooters but with better trunk space .. take care 👍🏽🤙🏽

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I feel the same about scooters. Ease of use and storage space. I enjoy motorcycles, but I love these scooters. I'm surprised the Kymco AK550 is not sold in the Philippines. I'm also surprised I don't see it in Thailand.

[@dariomladenovski7047]

Yamaha TMAX 560 then

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

@@dariomladenovski7047 I did see the TMAX in Thailand. I need to rent that, I'm curious how it compares to the X ADV 750.

[@davesy6969]

I've had a few scooters, but they all had poor suspension. I'm glad Honda addressed this issue.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I felt the same about most scooters I've ridden. The brakes on many scooters are also subpar. It's especially noticeable going from a motorcycle to a scooter.

[@davesy6969]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple Most scooters I've owned have had disc all round (yamaha yp250 majesty x3, Sym sr125 x2, kymco agility city 125 x2) and the brakes were great, the disc/drum scoots weren't so great (piggio hexagon 180, piaggio zip 125).

[@hunkydorian]

I used to have a Burgman 400. For a short while. I assure you, I have never been buttfked but the vibration of a single-cylinder bike is probably what it feels like. I really really want something like this here but no thumpers for me.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

😂 I've never felt that experience riding single cylinder motorcycles or scooters, but I've never rode a Burgman 400.

[@Winterstick549]

Even my ADV 150 is plenty for Thailand, but I sure hope they send this 350 to the USA.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I feel the same.

[@Winterstick549]

​@@JakeSnowLiveSimple I LOVE the Captain America optional look on the ADV160. Wish it was offered in the USA.

[@BEEAAAST30]

THIS!!! my next scoot! ty for your review 🙏🙏

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Good choice. Thank you for watching. 🙏🏼

[@japhdanaoofficial2205]

Love your review and thanks for sharing your thoughts. A lot of adv 150/160 and even xmax 300 owners have been waiting for its official release here in the Philippines. Hopefully by 2023 Honda brings it here🙏. Thanks Jake for sharing your thoughts. Ridesafe mate!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! 🙏🏼 I'm sure who ever buys a new ADV 350 will be very happy.

[@jomardagohoy8611]

Sana nga sa 2023 pero kaka release lng ng Honda ph sa 160 nila mukhang malabo pa din pero Presyong ginto kaya to pagdating sa pinas? 😂

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Napansin ko lahat ng presyo ng motor ay mas mura sa Thailand kumpara sa USA. Curious ako kung magkano ang mga scooter na ito sa Pinas.

[@japhdanaoofficial2205]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple It gets a bit pricey when released in PH due to taxes

[@InitialANSR]

@@japhdanaoofficial2205 same here in Malaysia

[@Roof_Pizza]

Should hit 1,000 subs any day. Good for you.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thanks!

[@hiltonmcconnell2563]

The best looking scooter by far is the 2023 Yamaha BWS 125 in Black, was thinking about the Xmax 300 till I seen the BWS 125 I have a Honda CB 500X for the highway, so the BWS 125 will do for the back roads and around towns and villages, and dirt roads. Just one look at the black one and it won my heart. With the flat floor it will be great for things like getting my gas containers filled up for my garden tractors and tiller, easy put a 25 liter one between my feet. It is lacking some on storage, but again I have the CB500X with GIVI treker 33/64 liter side case and top box. The more I look at the Black BWS 125, the more I like it. Do not think any other scooter comes close for looks and 2.3 liters per 100 km is nice as well (101 mpg) Though I was doing good getting 3.2 liters per hundred on the CB500X.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I agree, the BWS 125 is a cool looking scooter. I haven't had the opportunity to ride one yet. Perfect set up owning both motorbikes.

[@InitialANSR]

That casual review instantly hooks me to watch the entire video. Great review! I live in Malaysia, and I don't know when it will be release. It's real pain in the ass when you like Honda, but Yamaha will always be the first to come out with all types and different models like the new nmax, xmax, and tmax. While Honda we only have adv150 and 160 and 750. I really need middle-range cc like this ADV350 for my daily commute on highways.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked the review! That's a bummer you don't have the ADV350. I agree, the midsized scooters are the best for mixed use as a commuter and a comfortable highway scooter.

[@thaitraveller9756]

still adv150 alot of fun especially off road the adv 750 ok but not practical no luggage space and to big and heavy cross country i did a vlog on my channel where i rode for over 7 hrs no problem with traffic and with all my equipement in top box great fun

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I agree about the X ADV 750. Small storage, tiring to ride in city traffic, and too heavy for enjoyable off road riding.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

buy it

[@pijesz]

Recently an employee of Honda Malaysia showed the 350 at one of their store.

[@Stramonium1054]

Interesting that you love the suspension, many other reviewers consider it too stiff

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I weigh 185 lbs (84 kg), it feels perfect for me. Gig only weighs 110 lbs (50 kg) and didn't mention it feeling too stiff when she rode it solo. Although she's not a fussy rider, all the big CC scooters probably feel the same to her.

[@SB-wh6gy]

It is stiff at slow speeds over pot holes, but at higher speeds it controls the bike well.

[@1990-t1j]

You've almost convinced me regarding the ADV 350, Jake. I'll keep my Aerox 155, though. Better in the city. Nick J

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I agree, the Aerox is more enjoyable in heavy city traffic.

[@Joergenator]

I prefer the looks of the Forza 350 but the ADV looks great too. Which one handles better in your opinion?

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

The ADV handles better in all conditions. It's not even close for me. If I ranked them in order of which ones handle the best that I've spent much time on it would be: #1 ADV 350 #2 XMAX 300 #3 Forza 350. I haven't seen any 2023 updates on the Forza that would make it better than previous years. I'm looking to get my hands on a 2023 Forza to confirm. The Forza suspension needs a serious upgrade.

[@EldironRPG]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple I disagree with this. Nobody can catch me on my Forza 350, the feeling on the Adv is a bit more clunky in my opinion. But maybe it is because of the Oehlins shock absorbers in the back which make a huge difference on the Forza.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

@@EldironRPG The stock suspension on the Forza seemed ok until I rode an XMAX and the ADV 350. The stock rear suspension is especially harsh on the Forza. I like the performance of the Forza, but ride quality is more important for me on these rough roads. I'd love to ride a Forza with an upgraded after-market suspension.

[@jimw7916]

That was a really informative review.....so hard to find useful info these days! ....my prob is they dont sell them in Philippines untill sometime next year!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Interesting, I always thought the South East Asian countries received new models at relatively the same time.

[@williamsmith7340]

I think you just hit it out of the park with this review. I ride the Forza in Thailand which I prefer to the Xmax because it sits me higher so I can get a better look over the traffic on the road ahead of me. It also seems heavier and more stable at speed on the expressways, especially when passing those big trucks. A buddy bought an ADV 350, and I have to admit that it is a nice machine. I have no intention of riding off road, and despite potential crotch rot, you will thank that bigger fairing and higher adjustable windscreen on the Forza when it rains or the bugs are flying. For now, the Forza gets my 5’11”, 220 lb geezer lard ass around Rayong quite nimbly, and effortlessly down Thailand’s extensive freeway system. Rumours are that Honda will be coming out with an ADV twin cylinder 500cc soon. That would probably be my next upgrade to make putting the wife on the back seat a better touring option. Cheers.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thanks, William! And thanks for sharing your experience with the Forza. I hope the 500cc rumor is true. I'd love to do a 350 vs 500 review.

[@Eivindvond]

Thx for the video :D I will absolutely check out this guy in Pattaya next week :D

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You're welcome 🙏🏼.

[@Hello-yn9pf]

It would be nice if Honda imported the ADV350 to the USA but I’d be happy with an ADV160 in charcoal or the ADV250.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I'd like to see this ADV 350 in the US.

[@tlagha8632]

Hello and thank you for your great review. I cannot decide between the ADV 350 and kymco xciting VS…any opinion appreciated🙏 thank you.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You're welcome. I haven't had the opportunity to ride the Kymco Xciting 400i yet. If I can get one, I'll make a review video.

[@BudFields-y5p]

Luv the review, Hey Honda, please bring the ADV 350 to the U.S. Market. I'm ready to purchase one!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! I hope Honda will make it available in the US. 🙏🏼

[@alrecks619]

looking forward for the new XMAX coz that one sure is fancy.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I feel the same, the tech upgrades look very nice.

[@blueskymorningz8765]

Excellent review, I am waiting for this bike to arrive in Malaysia.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼

[@jkuzel]

Hi, I've ridden X-ADV for 300km and ADV350 for 15 minutes. I still can't decide. My main worry is (besides the price) probably the weight of X-ADV, I struggled hard to go reverse with my feet, if it fell over on the ground, I am not sure I would be able to pick it back up, even on a flat ground. So the paradox is, I would feel scared going offroad with it, I used to go offroad with my Yamaha NMAX 125 (125cc scooters have excellent clearance), and that thing if there was uneven terrain or some issue, i could throw it around on my own. After I got off day of riding with X-ADV and switched to ADV350, it felt super light and nimble (despite only being an additional 50kg difference), its probably so much better for anything except highway in terms of handling. That being said, X-ADV on sport mode is a fun beast, and I quite like how it pulls and sounds. I know 600cc naked pulls much harder, but for me that's actually too much, I don't wanna worry about falling of the motorcycle or doing an unintentional wheelie :). It feels like a dilemma :). ADV350 feels so freakin easy to ride, honestly I try to avoid highways, so for city riding and outside of city capped at about 100 kmh as per my usual ride style, its probably just enough capable, to handle even going uphill well at 100kmh or accelerating around those speeds better than 125cc scooter. X-ADV is an engineering marvel though, and a motorcycle. It's exciting. What are your thoughts? Could the heaviness of X-ADV be too much of a problem in long-term for smaller guy (170cm)?

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I rode the X ADV 750 for a few weeks. It's a lot of fun on the main highways, but feels like a cumbersome tank in heavy city traffic. I didn't like it off road, it's too heavy to be enjoyable. After a day of riding the X ADV I felt tired. After a day of riding a 150 - 350cc scooter I felt fine. If I had a lot of faster open road to ride and rarely encountered heavy city traffic I think the X ADV would be a good choice. For me though, I spend much of my time commuting in the city so the ADV 350 is much better. It's fun in tight traffic, on dirt road, and it's easy to park. The X-ADV in comparison is a beast.

[@aaaces01]

I can understand your issue. I had a Kymco AK550 and was intimidated by it's weight to begin with - but it got much easier over time and I think you will find the same with the 750. I am 171cm. BUT...if you do not tour, the 330cc is awesome for your riding patterns IMO.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

@@aaaces01 What did you think about the Kymco AK550, was it a good scooter to own?

[@aaaces01]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple Hi Jake, it was brilliant to ride in all conditions.. touring, twistiest and city riding where surprisingly, it was easy to filter on. It offered great rain protection especially for the legs as well. But some parts were corroding and the switch gear was sub-standard. And it was a dog for a mechanic to work on. And the smart phone app was a waste of time… the reviewers don’t tell you these things. Too bad because it was a great bike but I wouldn’t buy a Kymco again.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you for sharing your experience. I was on the fence between the XMAX and Kymco earlier this year. The maintenance was my #1 concern and reason I played it safe and purchased the XMAX.

[@SladeBling]

I live in the Pattaya/Jomtien area I ended up buying the ADV160 for approx 105,000 baht($2,850) and my neighbor went to the BKK Auto Show and ordered the ADV350 for 188,000 baht($5,100) I think he got a much better deal. Delivery in both cases took about 3 weeks. As far as which bike is the best I think the ADV350 is 3x better than th ADV160, especially if you're over 210lbs. If you're like me (around 185lbs) the ADV350 is a little hard to handle. The ADV160 is just so much lighter and easy to weave in and out of the constant traffic here. So yes, the ADV350 is the better bike but it's 2 negatives are it may be too big for a smaller rider and tougher to weave in and out of traffic. I have another neighbor who swears by the Xmax but to me it looks too much like a boat lol.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I like all three, but I agree that the ADV 160 is better in the city. My blue 2021 XMAX in the US has received more compliments than any other motorbike I've owned, including all of my sports bikes. Americans love the looks of the XMAX. Maybe it's the blue color. Lol

[@SladeBling]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple That's great, from certain angles it really does look good, the blue def helps. My friend, who is big, doesn't fit right on the Xmax, something about his knees rubbing against something. I'll admit it's an intriguing bike. It's about $2,000 cheaper in Thailand than the U.S. what a bargain.

[@perro0076]

Super nice review. I'm in Brussels, Europe and I was looking for the very question. How good is it in thick traffic? I have a PCX125 and fancied getting something more 'bike', but it looks like I have to stick to the PCX125 😂

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼. In heavy traffic, I prefer 150 - 160cc scooters. I love the bigger 300cc+ scooters, and the ADV 350 is very easy to ride in heavy traffic. However, the small scooters are undoubtedly easier and more enjoyable to ride in big city traffic.

[@jimasful]

nice video ! how do the brakes compare to the xmax 300 ?

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thanks! The ADV350 brakes have much more stopping power, better feel, and require much less force at the brake lever than the XMAX 300.

[@steveaustin1984]

Congratulations on reaching 1K!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! Only a few more to go.

[@vine1313]

Sadly Yamaha is the way most of us in the US will have to go if we want anything over 150cc, unless we want a Vespa or a burgman. I have the ADV150, and put over 10,500 miles on it is 2 1/2 years. I wanted the 350 so badly, but the only thing they brought was a 160cc version of the ADV.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I agree; the faster roadways in the US need 300cc+ machines. I am thankful we at least get the XMAX in the US. The Kymco AK550 is one I considered in the US, but the heavier weight, limited storage, and limited service centers made it easy to choose the XMAX.

[@AzerPaul]

Good rundown on the bike. Thanks.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You're welcome, and thank you. 🙏🏼

[@bvanpetten]

Nice comparison. The time you have spent on similar scooters gives you a nice base to compare. As for the look.... To me all the new bikes look like the designers had to use lego blocks as there only design tool. I am not a fan of the blocky look. I miss the sleek, smooth lines.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thanks. 👊🏼 I think they all look pretty good, but I think most things on two wheels look good. lol

[@mschrage618]

Would kill for one in the states. Unfortunately it would outsell their 300cc motorcycles so we’ll never get ‘em

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You're probably correct.

[@tongdeeandmoon]

Hey Jake hope you still see these comments. I'm going up from NMAX to ADV 350 soon. The idea being a lot more touring with my Thai wife on pillion. Would you say the stock shocks are adequate?

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Nice! You're going to love that 350. The stock shocks are very good; you won't need to upgrade. Gig and I have spent many miles together on an ADV350.

[@tongdeeandmoon]

@JakeSnowLiveSimple fantastic. Thanks for that. Love your videos. 👍🙏

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

@@tongdeeandmoon You're welcome, and thank you!

[@Fourwedge]

Great video. I'm considering a ADV350

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thanks!

[@zdravkokosir5340]

Hello from Slovenija. Did you uninstalled seat from ADV 350? I want to upgrade seat, I don't know how to uninstall it. Will you make video for this purpose? Best regards, Zdravko

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Hello, Zdravko. I haven't changed the seat. If I change it, I'll be sure to make a video.

[@strezification]

Can you change the windshield with Givi or Puig for more wind protection?😊

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Yes, there are touring add-on windscreens from both Givi and Puig.

[@ChocolateManInThailand]

Excellent review! Thanks For posting!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You're welcome. 🙏🏼

[@dylanlamarre3768]

That 0-70 km/h looks redoink. Love it.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

ADV 350 fun factor is a 10 out of 10! 👊🏼

[@ShyamaprasadMohanty-s3z]

Hello boss ji 🙏.this is very nice maxi scooter.indian people is waiting this Honda adv😊

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Good scooter for India. 👌🏼

[@technosandee]

Jake, overall good 👍 performance oriented information shared… 👏👏👏

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@Roof_Pizza]

I think I'd get a mesh seat for the Forza 350 if the seat was an issue. Kinda torn between 4 Honda's and maybe this one comes 3rd/4th for me. CB500X Forza 350 ADV 350 PCX 160. All priced well in Thailand compared to the west.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I agree; I noticed the cheaper prices also. I've been wanting to ride a CB500X. If I was going to get a motorcycle, that would be one of my top choices, perfect for Thailand roads.

[@thatguy-555]

Hey Jake great review. When might you recommend the Forza 350 or XMax 300 over the ADV? I’m really trying to compare between the ADV and Forza but do like the XMax too. Just trying to make a buy decision on a 2023. Storage and ride are most important to me.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼 Storage is very close to the same size on all three. Ride quality is the #1 thing I love about the ADV 350. That alone puts it well above the other two in Thailand on these rough roads. The XMAX ride is very good but is limited by less rear suspension travel than the ADV. The Forza suspension felt fine to me until I rode an XMAX. The XMAX's better ride quality and handling make it much more fun to ride over the Forza. I have yet to find a 2023 Forza to ride. I'm very curious if Honda made much-needed improvements to the ride. When I'm in the US, I'm very happy with my XMAX riding on much better roads, cooler temperatures, and traveling at faster highway/interstate speeds. The XMAX is sluggish on the bottom when compared to the torquey ADV and Forza but has a higher top speed. I also like the front storage compartments better on the XMAX. Another note; the Forza and XMAX ride is terrible on dirt roads. They feel and sound like they are going to fall apart. The ADV makes any type of road and road condition fun. It's as if Honda built the ADV150/160 and 350 scooters for South East Asia. I would choose an XMAX or Forza over the ADV if I was riding in cooler to cold climates since both of them provide more wind protection than the ADV. The Forza has the best mirror visibility; I like how they are mounted far forward on the body vs. being mounted to the handlebars. The XMAX has the best front storage compartments with one locking. Night riding on back roads is best on the ADV and Forza. XMAX bright beams are worthless. Maybe Yamaha fixed that with the 2023 model. It's tough for me to make a good argument for the XMAX and Forza after riding the ADV 350 here in Thailand. All 3 are very nice scooters. Whichever one you get, I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

[@thatguy-555]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple wow thanks so much, when you're in BKK next would love to buy you a coffee! Im def leaning more towards ADV/Forza than XMax if I go new, mainly due to styling and Honda build quality. ADV does sound like the winner when it comes to ride quality and great to hear that storage is the same. If you have any recommendations on Honda dealers in the BKK area please let me know. Hoping to take advantage of any auto show promo if I go new soon.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

@@thatguy-555 I'm only familiar with Pattaya dealerships; I have not spent much time in BKK. Coffee sounds good. 👊🏼

[@thatguy-555]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple sounds good. Huge order backlog here in BKK, Im being told 4-5 months for either a Forza or ADV 350! Insane. Yes, coffee when you're around, or I'll try to ping you when out your way.

[@Snip59]

I think the Display for the Digital Display could be bigger as many are saying the same for the new model of the 2023 model its small and in the sunlight hard to see.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Bigger would be nice. I've never experienced a problem reading the display.

[@maurizio7452]

Great video. Pragmatic, useful and interesting. Thanks.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@brianakers7096]

Jake. Have you tried the BMW C 400x or 400 GT? I’m cross shopping these two bikes and curious on your thoughts. Thanks

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I haven't ridden the BMWs yet. I've been looking for one to ride.

[@brianakers7096]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple hopefully you will get to ride one and compare. Thanks for replying

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

@@brianakers7096 You're welcome, and thank you for the question. It keeps me motivated to search for more scooters to ride.

[@stevenaquino345]

What about kymco 300cc scoot category? It's all good than xmax 300, it's way cheaper and it has almost the same engine and features. What are your thoughts about it?

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I actually considered buying a Kymco AK 550 in the US but there are not many places to get it serviced like there is for Honda, Yamaha, and Suzuki. I also never see the Kymco in Thailand. I would like to ride a Kymco 300 in Thailand if I can find one. I just don't know the Kymco brand well.

[@YN44D]

great vid, what would u take if u just travel in normal streets 60% highway 35% offroad 5%? im need to choose between xmax 300, forza 350 and 350adv

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! Will you be riding in cool weather, four season climate?

[@YN44D]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple yes i live in austria most of the time, cold, spring, summer, autumn, winter

[@YN44D]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple lol i also got vespa gts in my opinions and honda sh350i

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

The XMAX is the best option, then, with its much better wind protection over the ADV350. I ride my XMAX comfortably in cold weather. Also, the ride quality is very good on city streets and highways. I never get butt fatigue on my XMAX. That's my experience riding in the US. You're trading ADV350 all-terrain suspension for XMAX cool/cold weather comfort. The Forza blocks a lot of wind also, but it creates too much negative air space between the rider and the windscreen, creating an extremely annoying vacuum effect sucking clothing and rider forward at highway speeds. The power windscreen, which seems awesome at first, vibrates at highway speeds, which is also annoying. The XMAX also has better ride quality than the Forza, which is especially noticeable on bumpy city streets. The Forza and ADV350 have better acceleration from a dead stop than the XMAX, and the Forza's fixed mirrors mounted on the front fairing provide the best visibility of any scooter I've been on.

[@petesmt]

Finally a review that compares all the popular models of the class

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I'm fortunate to have the opportunity to spend so much time with these scooters.

[@WorldTravelerCA]

What about NMax 155 to me it’s way better then adv 150 and yes I own both of these and my NMax v2 is better city scooter because of how comfortable it is and over all performance is better, when I go out of the city I use adv because it handles better on off roads but that all it’s. May I know your opinion on that please?

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I like the NMax, but for me, it competes with the PCX. I like the engine/drive train. It feels faster than the ADV from a dead stop. The power-to-weight ratio feels better on the NMAX and on the Aerox. I'm curious to see if the new ADV 160 caught up to the Yamaha 155 cc scooter performance. I personally fit better on the ADV and I like the ADV ride much more than the other mentioned scooters. The younger me would have put performance over ride quality.

[@cbr600ization]

thank you man....nice presantation...

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You're welcome, I'm glad you liked it. 🙏🏼

[@letuswatchclips]

In the market for a 2023 Xmax (recently rented one, lovely) but this video makes me reconsider. The ADV 350 looks more rugged with what looks like some more ground clearance and fewer marketing bells and whistles such as a Garmin navi, that requires a special app too or the hip Xmax multicolor fairings , X design led elements and wheels in Yamaha-blue . You don't need any of it and it could look a bit 'over' for a fellow older guy. Like wearing a pair of Nike Air Jordans that are too sick for your age.. The ADV design, capabilities and features seem to strike a sensible balance. It still manages a very modern almost tacticle design (especially in the matte black) with the larger bore and potentially more advanced engine. At the same price-range. And i got the 2017 Honda PCX to trade-in. Perhaps Honda will give me more for it (brand loyalty?). They were eying my modded 2019 B/W CBR650F pretty hard tho at Yamaha but i don't think i want to part with it. I think my path is clear, thanks for the enlightenment OP. Will update soon.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I love my 2021 Xmax, but the ADV 350 is a better match for Thailand roads. Both the ADV 150, and ADV 350 feel like they were built specifically for South East Asia. The 350 suspension travel and factory set up makes it the best riding scooter I've been on. Yamaha did an excellent job setting up the Xmax but it's limited by the travel, especially the rear suspension. Where did you rent the 2023 Xmax from?

[@letuswatchclips]

I bought one, blind, purely based on this review. Traded in my pcx and now i have to wait for 4 months. Looks like my cbr650 will have to work overtime lol

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

@@letuswatchclips Nice! You're going to love that ADV 350.

[@eip-kn4qm]

Mooie video, maar waarom draag je geen beschermende kleding, zelfs geen handschoenen. Kortebroek en een T schirt dit is toch wel het laatste waar je aan moet denken als je een schuiver maakt, vooral bij hoge snelheden. Groeten.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

It's best to wear protective equipment, but everybody goes native evenually when living in Southeast Asia. The heat makes everybody a little crazy.

[@IcarusIcarus76]

Fantastic review! Do you beleive its possible a 300km trip with average speed 100-120km/h without overheating etc ?

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼 Yes, the ADV will easily cruise at 120km/h for long rides in hot weather without over heating.

[@wahidilfajar54]

Hope we had it in indonesia, but guess not because of cc limitation. Maybe we'll got the 250 version cause we don't have the 350 base engine. The tax will rocket high when it had to sold in honda big wing dealer.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

That's unfortunate you don't have it there.

[@OntarioAndrews415]

Good review. Have you compared it to the Piaggio BV3xx? I USA has the ADV150, but last I checked not the 350. And Canada does not get either. I have no idea why. It's just silly to me.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you and no, I haven't found a Piaggio available to ride. The ADV 350 would be a much better match up for US road ways than the ADV 150. I hope the 350 makes it over.

[@farang_Dave]

Honda scooters are the best anyway😊 i only drow 125-160cc. But Adv 160cc wad really amazing and i loved it in Thailand. So i want to get the 350 adv next time

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You'll enjoy that 350. 👊🏼

[@brianmcgowan4280]

Do you get back pain while riding the Xmax 300. I was looking to buy here in Canada. 67 years old. What do you think?

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I never get back pain from riding my XMAX. I've spent 13 hours riding down the Interstate over a 2 day trip with no problems. It was very comfortable.

[@georgemihelioudakis547]

Very nice,what is your opinion compare it with the Bmw c400gt?

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I think the C400GT is a nice looking scooter, and I would love to ride it. It's challenging to find one to ride. I'm very curious how it compares to the less expensive ADV 350. I'll make a review video if I can get one for a week.

[@aaaces01]

Great review. I can also recommend Mr Deen for rentals. Great selection of bikes and won’t try to scam you.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼

[@williamtarzan1]

ok...great review indeed . As I live in Bali I cannot entertain buying the ADV 350...a super great scooter but too big , wide for the insane traffic here. It's constant lane splitting , threading the needle all day long ! My Honda PCX 160 will have to suffice . I bought the PCX with ABS , but come to find out it is only on the front wheel...!!! How can Honda get away with that ?? Dangerous in my opinion !...

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I know what you mean, the smaller scooters are better for heavy slow moving traffic. I'm currently riding a new ADV 160 and a new Click 160. Both have ABS, are very fun to ride, and much better in heavy traffic than the bigger 300cc+ scooters. I love the ADV 160 but the narrow and lighter Click 160 slices through congested traffic so effortlessly. I look forward to bad traffic on that Click.

[@tusharkumarsingh1]

Man, do we need that in India or what. That is such a sweet vehicle. These maxi scooters are fun and practical. But we know Honda wont pull the trigger.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I wish we had these in the US also.

[@ThaiSabai9]

Outstanding review!

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@mitchellm90]

For the adv 450, would you feel comfy in the mountains by Pai to Mae Sai going downhill?

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I would feel comfortable taking the ADV 350 on any steep and winding mountain road. Excellent brakes with a torquey engine at low RPM make for a very fun and safe ride.

[@frankoqhairul3485]

I'll stick to my Adv160 after listening to your opinion

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

The ADV 160 is a great scooter! 👊🏼

[@Oggiwara1]

Not many words was said about the Forza 350 compare to the ADV. Would love to see a direct comparison between the Forza 350 vs the ADV 350.

[@dariomladenovski7047]

yeah he said it's better but didn't specify why, the windshield looks bigger and better on the Forza to me

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

I had a full review video about the Forza 350. I decided it was too negative so I never uploaded it.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

The Forza is like riding around in a bath tub. It's the worst scooter I've spent time with in this hot Thailand weather. Too much wind protection (Swamp butt), harsh suspension, dated styling, and vibrating wind screen are the worst things about the Forza. I'd rather ride a Click 160 over the Forza. I didn't talk much about the Forza because my thoughts are mostly negative after 3 weeks riding it. The engine/drivetrain is the best thing about the Forza. Perhaps riding in a cooler climate with better quality roads my experience would have been different.

[@Oggiwara1]

@@JakeSnowLiveSimple Thanks. I guess the ADV is a better choice in Thailand since I will be driving on various type of roads like dirt, concrete and asphalt.

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

The ADV 350 and 160 are built perfect for Thailand roads and climate. The 350 especially, is a joy to ride on bad roads.

[@keithd1219]

I just bought a ktm 390 adventure but I live in the states. I absolutely love this presentation on the adv350, which is exactly what I would buy when I move to Thailand. Top notch 👍

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

You'll love the ADV, I'm sure!

[@darrenwatson874]

You can get the KTM here in Thailand

[@igorgoxy]

by far the best review

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼

[@basilisp]

I loved this video. I have a question about theft protection. What do you use? U locks, disc lock or chain? Thank you

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you. 🙏🏼 I use the built-in steering lock on scooters and motorcycles, nothing else. I've never had a motorbike stolen from me in the 25 years I've been riding. Now that I think about it, I don't personally know anyone that has had a motorbike stolen.

[@mohamadnoor4702]

You are right , its the best looking scooter right now

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

👊🏼

[@imranvp]

Perfect review. Instant Sub. 👍🏽👍🏽

[@JakeSnowLiveSimple]

Thank you very much! 🙏🏼