Honda Foreman 450 Foot Shift Conversion!

[@joeydrapeau5154]

Just did this to my 450, taking off the skid plate was the hardest part bolts were badly rusted. Ramps are a must!

[@smallgaragehustle]

I’m doing the same on a Rancher 350 and I tossed the shifter ecu to eliminate faults from developing on the display. Shift components are not needed to run, just the CDI.

[@justin1585]

Good to know about to do this on a 350 today

[@danielwarzecha2007]

Thanks man! Super awesome straight to the point and helpful!

[@titanpat57]

Pretty darn nice job ya did there!!

[@Reliable1102Intel]

Im reading in the Honda atv forum from other owners that the emergency shift shaft components are not durable enough to become the Routine method of shifting. Basically, converting the ES to an S with manual shift requires more work than simply creating a shifting arm. The hazard is that the splined end breaks and parts fall into the gear case. FOD occurs and your SOL.

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

That's why I removed the gears from the es mechanism so there's no binding or fighting against the shift shaft when going through the gears. I use this quad almost every day for farm work and I've had no issues so far.

[@Reliable1102Intel]

@@handy_andy_bobandy Looks like viewers are under the impression that just adding a shifting arm is the cure. The other work around is to bipass the ecm with additional wiring. The 2000 model looses the 2-4 readout on the cluster but the power shift module operates as it should. I have not had to implement this on acrecently awuired 450es. How many miles or hours were on the clock when you first experienced any issues with the ES?

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

@@Reliable1102Intel the quad had 6400km on it when the angle sensor went the first time. the second one only lasted roughly 100km so that's why I did this conversion. both sensors were Honda. like I said, I've used it every day on the farm and used it hard. so far no issues at all.

[@Reliable1102Intel]

@@handy_andy_bobandy im glad youve not encountered a failure on the primary shifting shaft. Reports of the shaft tang breaking off have been reported. If that does occur, the tang becomes fod in the bottom of the case. Theres no warnings. Only excessive rotational movement after the tang sheers off. Good luck.

[@JamesBorisik]

Handy_andy_bobandy how did you take out the es mechanism. Did you just take out the shift motor gears?

[@oscarmccabe1394]

Did you find the problem with the electric shift? I'm having the same issue

[@mr.hoonigan4313]

Make it a heel/ toe shift like a harley.

[@tubefreek869]

I did this five or six years ago and mine is still holding up, i did take out the electronic shifting gears and motor tho

[@a1i3n]

How is it running today? Apprecite your comment.

[@BeastlyIronworks]

Hahahaaha thanks bother!!! Now I'm just going to forge a foot stick out😁😁😁😁

[@lakesiderenovationsllc]

Could you buy a foot shift lever for a similar model Honda and just add the socket?

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

Not sure. But it might be worth a shot!

[@joedutton3413]

Nope. Factory have a spline the extra for emergency i octagon

[@chadwilt1907]

Yes, I bought a regular splined foot shifter and used a socket, I tightened the spline section to a socket extension, and attached extension into the socket. Drill hole in socket and thread for lock bolt.

[@richlaviolette3213]

Great job thanks for the video

[@509grind]

Why not just buy the shifter for the same year Forman 450S?

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

If I remember correctly the S model is splined were as this is a hexagonal shaft.

[@509grind]

You are correct. I forgot about that.

[@kalobreed1147]

What size socket did you ise

[@a1i3n]

Yes. This is what I need to do. Wondering how it is running today. Any problems lately? Thanks.

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

Has not skipped a beat since I converted it. I beat the hell out of it weekly too haha.

[@a1i3n]

@@handy_andy_bobandy Thank you for your help. Works great and saved me some money. Good man!

[@joshjordan784]

They sell a es Shifter for cheap on ebay

[@jessekootenay7194]

Would you make another one and sell it to me?

[@juantellez9280]

Can you use both electric and manual shifting

[@wyattberube3571]

yes i have a foreman and did something like this, i took the foot shifter off and the es worked fine

[@mazer8590]

Dude I need this for my 420 rancher, fricken junk that damn es and esp

[@justap7349]

Does it still tell you what gear you in?

[@jasonwalker2770]

My 99 450 ES machine won't shift up and down smoothly with the manual shifter. Currently, the shift motor and gears are removed, the key is set in the run position and the motor is not running when doing this test. I need to rock the machine in order for it to cycle through the gears. I've pulled the motor apart twice, "all the way to the shift forks". I have NOT found anything broken, worn, or bent to the naked eye. I was told that rocking the machine is normal in order to cycle the gears. You seemed to indicate that your machine shifts smoothly through the gears. Can you elaborate on that? I'm still not convinced that my issue is electrical rather than internal based on the poor cycling I am experiencing. Thanks for the video.

[@anthonylewis8601]

So how is it doing far as shifting manually? I have a 2000 450 foreman an its have ES problems an would like to do away with the electronic shifting.. in theory it sounds like your 100% rite and it should be fine because your just going around the electronic shift. But have the shift shaft ther it makes sense adding a shifter an removing the shifting motor gears.. give me a shout please when u have time Thanks..

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

I've used the quad almost every day on the farm and have had no issues. Only thing is that the gear numbers don't show on the dash due to the angle sensor still not working. But I don't find it to be a pain. It still shows reverse, first, and fifth.

[@anthonylewis8601]

@@handy_andy_bobandy thanks. I did find a forum on the honda that's be4 2007 all the shift shaft are the same.. so basically what I can see is that ther all manual but some are factory converted to electronic shift. More or less as they roll down the line ther the same some get ES an some stay S.. thanks for your help..

[@anthonylewis8601]

@@handy_andy_bobandy I talked with a mechanic an the only diff with ES and S is the shift spline S is splined an ES is 12 mm.

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

@@anthonylewis8601 I had heard that as well but never seen a S model in person. Good to know. thanks for the info.

[@anthonylewis8601]

@@handy_andy_bobandy your welcome. The mechanic at the Honda shop explained it to me..and that's how it took it that the only diff was a 12mm shift shaft vs a splined shift shaft. I'm gona tear in too mine an see how it goes..

[@tired-r1c]

how about making a hand shifter so old men won't have to lift their foot?

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

Definitely have thought about it!

[@rkmcrlaf-dob4008]

Run again ? Transmission no problem with shift now ?

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

Yes sir. Haven't had a problem since I did this. I posted an update video after this one for proof haha.

[@kennethtomer5553]

I bought a bike that was smoking. An the guy sent it with a spare engine but after I got home noticed it is a ES engine an bike is a foot shift. Can I do this without any problems do you think?

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

Ive been beating on my quad since this video every weekend and its held up great with no issues. Hope that helps.

[@nickmcclelland474]

What are those wheels

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

I have a video on them if your interested.

[@leonchumley8513]

I have a 350 elective shift.

[@noelopez3676]

do you think nothing happen to the engine or transmission because my Honda got the same problem electric shift dont works?let me know please thank you

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

I haven't had any issues at all so far and I ride my quad really hard every week.

[@noelopez3676]

@@handy_andy_bobandy thank you/gracias.

[@kaisuki6069]

I did the exactly same thing lol works nice

[@beauhunter2123]

What is the purpose of taking the gears out? Also, does it shift easier without those gears from the shift motor?

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

Yeah it shifts easier and basically the reason I took the gears out is because they will give resistance when you foot shift since the electric shift motor is also attached to the transmission and acting as dead weight since it isnt shifting. If that makes sense.

[@beauhunter2123]

Doing this wont throw any codes right? So it shouldnt have any problems up shifting or down shifting?

[@handy_andy_bobandy]

@@beauhunter2123 it shouldn't and I havent had any codes or problems after about 50km of riding afterwards, But im not a professional. Hope that helps.