Honda Grom Clone Assembly (Venom Vader 125)

[@charleshill2936]

You should have way more views and likes than what You have. This has been one of the most informative I have seen.kudos to you and hope you keep up the great content.

[@BackyardRC]

It's rough around the edges. Have another one that I bought that i'm looking to go more detailed and display sizes.

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

to install the shock bolt, place a stepladder across the seat and use a rachet strap from the ladder to the bike and rachet it up until the shock bolt hole und the hole on the bike mount line up and install the bolt.

[@BackyardRC]

Now have a bike lift!

[@Supertroll-tk5kz]

Pretty good unboxing video anyway. Turns out even before I take my clone out of its box I have all the OEM Honda front-end parts, over 5 hundred for just the two Honda OEM wheels, but I'll have all Honda forks, brakes everything. Custom aluminum swing-arm in the back with Honda OEM spring shock. 141cc kit.

[@user-uc5tj6ux8w]

At that point just buy a grom, lol.

[@Supertroll-tk5kz]

@@user-uc5tj6ux8w Many people buy cars because of how they look. Maybe I should buy a Honda Grom and make it look like the Chinese version. The world buys more Chinese products than they do Japanese products, must be a reason for that, probably not quality but just rather looks. Although the Chinese economy doesn't look too good right now. lol

[@user-uc5tj6ux8w]

@@Supertroll-tk5kz oh_no_it's_retarded

[@BackyardRC]

Thanks!

[@koltendeansammons]

My new favorite unboxing video. Great info 🤝

[@BackyardRC]

Awesome, thank you!

[@_BlueCollarGamer]

how often do they suggest an oil change on these bikes after the first 500 / break in period??? also, This is probably BY FAR the BEST unboxing / set up tutorial I have seen for a Clone yet.. Thank you for the time you took putting this video together.

[@BackyardRC]

Roughly 1500 miles but on these smaller bikes I would suggest more of a hour oil change rather than a mile oil change.

[@_BlueCollarGamer]

@@BackyardRC Gotcha... so maybe every 50 hours or so ?

[@BackyardRC]

Probably closer to 25 hours...keep in mind these engines have no oil filter, just a oil screen

[@gerrymullen6615]

left side of bike the cover over the chain has a plug what is that for?

[@BackyardRC]

Timing marks/flywheel nut

[@bigfootaintreal5454]

Dude, your bike looks and sounds cool. I have a 2024 cfmoto popio ss 125. I love it. And it's cheaper than a Grom. Nice bike dude. Stay safe.

[@BackyardRC]

Right on!

[@burn1gotbeats]

How is this bike holding ? up not sure if I should spend more and get a Grom or just buy one of these it seems like the fuel injection is all i would be missing besides a little quality control.

[@BackyardRC]

I have had many of these and ended up giving this one to my grandfather for him to ride around town. It has been holding up very well besides having to fix the fuel tank venting issue. Has about 5k miles on it. It is all stock carb and exhaust. Personally all of mine have different exhaust and carbs but he likes quiet. I have a true Grom and a few clones. The grom is nice fit and finish and the fuel injection is nice, however if you are old school and can adjust carbs, I like the clones better for ease ability of tuning(Don't need to send ecm to get flashed for each mod). I wouldn't be afraid of either.

[@burn1gotbeats]

@@BackyardRC thanks appreciate the reply very informative 😎☝️. can’t wait to to just get on the road with something 🤣😇

[@Supertroll-tk5kz]

I have a black one exactly like this. I've had it for a couple of weeks and it's all still in the box with nothing touched, EXCEPT for the front wheel I pulled out. I'm not doing another thing to any of it until I put one of my two new Michelin tires on that front wheel, with new bearings. I also ordered a grom front axel. Assembly of the whole bike will proceed like this, and I expect it will take me a couple of months before the bike is ready start for the first time. I already have the 141cc kit.

[@BackyardRC]

Tires on these last decently okay. Been seeing 2-3k miles before they are pretty bad. Others have got more.

[@Supertroll-tk5kz]

@@BackyardRC True.

[@Supertroll-tk5kz]

@@BackyardRC Money is no obstacle for me, I thought seriously about buying a Honda grom, but I don't like the way the Japanese make things look, but I love the way the Chinese make things look. I intend to keep this bike as stock as possible but just upgrade to higher quality parts as much as I can.

[@BackyardRC]

@@Supertroll-tk5kz That doesn't make much sense at all since Grom plastics will bolt directly on this and look exactly the same for this generation but you do you.

[@Supertroll-tk5kz]

@@BackyardRC There are many things about the Honda grom that are different from the Boom Vader and look different. There is a huge community of Boom Vader owners and they don't all buy them just because they are cheaper. In fact, if someone has a job making any good amount of money, working on a Boom Vader will cost them MORE money. So yes, it makes sense if that's what they want.

[@jamesthreats5800]

Looks like fun ,thanks for sharing

[@BackyardRC]

They can be lol

[@Supertroll-tk5kz]

Yes this is a helpful video. And there are others like this too. I did hit the like button.

[@BackyardRC]

Thank you! A appreciate it. Would like to remake this in the future with some better filming.

[@6fiddy309]

Good job i'm putting one together this weekend..😉👍

[@BackyardRC]

Have fun

[@skeome]

I bought my clone from a friend and the main (10A) fuse blew a couple days ago. When I went to check the wiring, I couldn't find the other (5A) fuse, but I found what I think is a spot for a fuse. Just to double check, do you know where the 5A fuse should be located?

[@BackyardRC]

The wiring harness on these bikes change a lot. On these bikes it is under the seat towards the rear taillight

[@kareemmunoz6028]

Hows it holding? Worth buying?

[@roybray8741]

Nice video where u get that at and how much

[@BackyardRC]

powersportsmax.com

[@JimmyJohnson-ub4rt]

Awesome video thank you

[@BackyardRC]

Glad to help!

[@KingJames951.]

would love a 2 year review

[@BackyardRC]

No longer have it.

[@theotherone3021]

Yea man I watched this probably 3 different times why waiting to get my bike… I’ve Done everything I needed to out the box didn’t even connect the battery till I had my lever shifter and sprocket on and then oil change. Also did the egr and emissions delete. Bike never wanted to idle. You have any guess on that issue.

[@BackyardRC]

I would suggest swapping the carb with a amazon vm22 carb.

[@theotherone3021]

@@BackyardRC yea it’s on the way thanks

[@DavidSmith-wy5rb]

When you were inside your building your voice was not very clear, but outside it was. Very enjoyable assembly video though.

[@BackyardRC]

Thanks!

[@killingerk]

I started laughing like no duh it's not starting you have the kill switch on

[@alexisferraro9918]

Do you have any idea on what to do if my key gets stuck in the gas tank key hole? I followed every step you did but my key got stuck when I put it in…

[@BackyardRC]

I’ve had it happen a few times. Thing I’ve had the best luck with is putting pressure down on the cap and wiggling the key back and forth. This has worked each time for me that I’ve had a issue

[@alexisferraro9918]

@@BackyardRC thank you so very much!! You’re a life saver!

[@thischickridesbikes]

Wish I could have seen you install the battery there are two red cables, not sure where the thin one is suppose to get connected to as athe bike not powering on

[@BackyardRC]

Red to red, black to black...

[@thischickridesbikes]

@@BackyardRC 😅😅 yes yes lol

[@peterstanton6926]

I recently bought a 24 grom , has a lot of spare parts?! Can I get some ideas as to where these pieces go?

[@olddirtyburt7522]

The big question is: is it EFI for the fuel system like the Grom?

[@BackyardRC]

No, carbureted

[@POSminiracer]

Good video. Just saved me a bunch of money.

[@BackyardRC]

For the price, especially in todays market, it’s not bad. Definitely has its flaws though. If you can work few a few of them, it’s not bad, but if you want a ready to run machine out the box this isn’t it. I would highly suggest the SSR Razkull 125 over the venom/boom vaders anyway.

[@POSminiracer]

@@BackyardRC I'm not really in the market for one like this. I just picked up a slightly used Lifan KP mini 150 but what I am looking for is something that's fully automatic that looks like a motorcycle for the wife. There was at least one on my list of maybe's That was made by the same company or in the same factory and I have my reservations about the quality so I just moved it to the bottom of the list.

[@PLATOON-609]

DIDNT THEY DISCONTINUE THE SSR RAZKULLS?? I DONT THINK YOU CAN FIND THEM ON SHOWROOM FLOORS ANYMORE, MAYBE A CLAPPED OUT USED ONE, AND THAT DOSENT BEAT NEW, I WOULD GET THE VADER

[@BackyardRC]

@@PLATOON-609 A lot of dealers still have old 22's on the floor.

[@BabyBesia]

I know this is an old video but were there any spare parts like extra bolts or nuts? I can’t find the nut that goes to the front bolt for the tire

[@BackyardRC]

No there was not, however some companies are making you use nuts/bolts from the crate on the bike as well

[@facepalm015]

I noticed what looked like rubber on the engine fins...will those melt when the engine gets hot??

[@BackyardRC]

No, these are used to minimize vibrations on the engine fins and prevent cracking

[@facepalm015]

@Backyard RC Thanks for the info. Late to the clone party, but I ordered a Venom X20. Your vid was awesome and very informative. Started scouring youtube on clones and your vid was very well laid out

[@BackyardRC]

@@facepalm015 Thank you. I would like to redo it eventually a little more organized and I've lost weight now lol but I no longer have any clones. I bought a 23 Grom and havn't looked back. I will eventually buy another one i'm sure

[@fr.aleybo]

Did u order of xpro official site or Amazon just curious just purchased off xpro wondering if anyone else has done the same and if there reliable for shipping the bike ive heard mix reviews on the company regarding legitimacy but im more concerned on just getting the bike in proper condition appropriate any help or advice

[@BackyardRC]

If you watch the start of the video, I say “Powersportsmax”

[@anthonymessere4185]

I ordered my bike from venom and didn’t get my shock bolt. What size is this bolt?

[@BackyardRC]

They have changed the rear lower shock bolt size a few times. I would suggest taking the whole shock off and running to any parts store(or even most auto parts stores) and matching one up thats a grade 8 bolt. You want a snug fit. With most the bolts being metric on these, you might have to look a little more.

[@andyhuffman9394]

do i need to adjust the chain at all?

[@BackyardRC]

The chain will stretch pretty quickly. I would suggest using chain lube, put about 50-100 miles on it, then check tension

[@Nighterbtw]

What oil do you use for these

[@BackyardRC]

Honda 10w-40

[@josephsaucedo8691]

Great video anther on how to completing a Vader👍 there another KZbinr Johnny McKinney has a similar video but on his video he points out the bad parts and problems with the clones and how to make it more road dependable I'm in the comments as well it's a long video though . this could of been a factory/dealer video it was that good besides the long black outs ,👍✌️👌💯🥂🏍️

[@BackyardRC]

Thank you. I think I need to possibly reupload the footage. On the original video, the black random doesn’t appear, only when it got uploaded to KZbin. I’ll edit it later.

[@peterstanton6926]

Hey. I just bought a grom n have all kinds of spare parts and only found out where one part goes. Can you help me find out where the rest of the parts go?

[@BackyardRC]

A Grom or a Grom clone?

[@peterstanton6926]

@BackyardRC grom. I don't have any pics of the parts but I can get a couple when I get out work. Your help would be very appreciated

[@peterstanton6926]

Did you get the video?

[@kidzbikelife5840]

What's the gear pattern on the bike

[@BackyardRC]

1 down, 3 up

[@bulls45100]

I think the carburator of my motorcycle is flooded. Do you know how to empty the carburator for excess of gasoline?

[@BackyardRC]

On the very bottom of the carb bowl, you will see a small screw with a plastic line running down. Loosen this screw(make sure your gas is shut off of you will drain your tank) and it will drain the fuel in the bowl. Once it stops, tighten it and turn fuel back on.

[@bulls45100]

​@@BackyardRCI did not see the plastic line but i see the screw. I loosen the screw and it drained the fuel 👍

[@staylofordo7111]

Put some more break in oil in the starter. You’re gonna need it

[@BackyardRC]

LOL, almost a year later and works fine. Some of you act like things are made from paper mache...

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

not across the seat I mean straddle the bike with the ladder then run the rachet strap from the center of the ladder down to the bike and rachet the bike up until the shock hole and shock mount hole line up and install the bolt.

[@BackyardRC]

Good idea!

[@cyclepilot2]

Did it come with a title ?

[@BackyardRC]

No, it comes with a MSO. You will have to take a MSO to courthouse to register it. Once registered with the state, they issue you a title and plate

[@DylanBare]

How tall are you I am 6 ft and Jw if I’m to talk for it

[@BackyardRC]

5’11”

[@FREEDOM420Productreviwes]

im getting one for my birthday this year feb 16

[@BackyardRC]

Congrats!

[@michaelfisherjr2516]

For someone who has never installed a battery, I really wish you had step by step on how to install it. I don’t wanna mess anything up 😭😭

[@BackyardRC]

@@michaelfisherjr2516 red to red, black to black. On small 12V bike systems it’s not a big deal on which one first

[@michaelfisherjr2516]

@@BackyardRCokay, so do I just put the screw in through the plus and same for the Minus?

[@BackyardRC]

@ yes, however there will be a little square nut that will insert into the battery terminal(both positive and negative terminals) once that nut is put it, just run the bolt through

[@michaelfisherjr2516]

@ so I’m putting the square nut underneath the terminals opening, and then putting the screw through the hoods opening and then the terminal opening which would then include the nut at the end? Correct? Sorry, I’m trying to word this as best as possible 😭

[@Joeak74]

I thought the Venom clones had gold anodized forks.

[@BackyardRC]

Not all of them. The slightly more expensive version they sell does.

[@CuttinInIdaho]

Dude...98 degrees in there? You need a fan on you...way too hot!

[@BackyardRC]

Your telling me lol

[@adelhamdi8329]

Did you register it? If so, did you have to pay taxes when you registered it or were you exempt?

[@BackyardRC]

Why would it be exempt? It can not be filed for farm use.

[@adelhamdi8329]

@@BackyardRC I’ve never registered a vehicle so I wouldn’t know, but I’ve read that if you have proof you’ve paid a sales tax to seller then you shouldn’t need to pay it again to dmv.

[@adamblandino9388]

Shutup and take my money

[@BackyardRC]

Gladly!

[@tomconte1765]

It looks cheap, cause it is cheap. What a waste of money. I guess if that's all you can afford have at it. I'd rather buy a beat-up Grom.

[@BackyardRC]

We have had multiple Chinese groms over the years, they have been a nice alternative for other less experienced riders who tend to wreck or crash

[@El_Guapo303]

Good luck finding a beat up grom. I’ve been trying to find a clapped out grom and there is nothing. In fact I can’t find a grom older than 2018 and I live in a city with millions of people. There isn’t one for sale in the entire state of Colorado older than 2018. And guess what? As far as clones there are NONE. Not a single clone for sale. So people emitter don’t buy them which we know is not true or they don’t break as often as we think. And if you are good at building and working on motorcycles getting one of these clones is a cheaper/better option over a grom. A grom is definitely not $3000 better. You can put 5-600 dollars into a clone and be just as good.

[@tomconte1765]

@@BackyardRC Says the guy who makes $ from selling Chinky Grom knock-offs.

[@jakeshort8038]

Then go get one instead of hating on people being budget smart, these bikes with a little TLC will do the same thing as a honda grom that you prolly wont be able to find under $3k. Meanwhile This bike is still more than half the price. Lol😂

[@tomconte1765]

@@jakeshort8038 I'm not hating on anyone, just calling out junk when I see it. You get what you pay for son. Don't waste your money on junk like a fool. Save your $ and but a Grom, Lol

[@pedrothomas4944]

never hold starter that long maybe 5 sec most each time

[@BackyardRC]

Not going to hurt a starter holding it longer then 5 seconds. Maybe after a minute sure but battery will be dead before you hurt one of these starters.