Looks like the wheel motor PCB is covered in conformal coating to prevent moisture issues. A little difficult to work with when repairing, but a good touch that was left out from this video.
@JasonB8087 ай бұрын
This is basically an electric scooter that was converted to little electric bike that folds away into a suit case. The battery pack was limited for price and weight. It would make it a lot heavier if they doubled the size of the battery pack for 24 miles of range. The thing is that, in the Moto Compacto’s home country of Japan. 12 miles range is more than enough. As the whole point of this scooter is to get the rider from to a mass transit station, from mass transit station to work. Then at the end of the day they do the trip in reverse to get home. It saves a lot of time walking if your home or office is 1 mile or farther away from transit station. Americans or Canadians will never understand the Appeal of the Moto Compacto because we live in a Car centric society. If you don’t have a car, everything is just out of reach. The only exception is Americans that live in NYC, Boston, Chicago, Washington DC, and maybe certain areas in Florida.
@ryanmcfarland19007 ай бұрын
The thing was entirely designed in the USA and it is not being sold in Japan.
@sonickrnd7 ай бұрын
@@ryanmcfarland1900yep, totally not related to the 1981 Japanese Honda's Motocompo. :D
@Sepulchrave888 күн бұрын
In Florida we use the golf cart.
@ThePrimaFacie7 ай бұрын
This is awesome Im glad to see that Honda did something for users. I hope that if this sells well the v2 will be even better. I wonder if you could ask other Scooter manufactures for samples. BMW CE-04 would be great also that Swed one if you can find it the Sondors Metacycle. Yes these are both very expensive and have pretty powerful batteries and may not be able to be fixed by the average user (via lack of tools, warranties, etc.) But if these are the future of transportation. Is it fair that the avgerage consumer wont be able to do common repairs or fix common breakages in their home/garage? Thanks
@monsieurlee7 ай бұрын
It almost looks like they intentionally made the battery hard to remove. I wonder how long before someone comes out with an 3d printed adapter and a wiring harness that lets you slap on a 40V+ power tool battery like the Ryobi 40V or similar to add range to it. I've been wanting one of these since announcement but that would make it an instant buy.
@oplkfdhgk7 ай бұрын
Aren't there already adapter's like that? I think I have seen something like that but it was more like universal adapter than specifically made for this.
@w00dreau7 ай бұрын
The storage bin above the battery would be an easy location for that.
@jnharton7 ай бұрын
Could be just be an oversight, at least as far as the bin placement being an obstacle to battery removal. The screws on both sides is a minor nuisance that they could have alleviated with longer screws and a couple plug covered holes in the side panels The orientation of the battery may have been intentionally chosen to maintain balance and limit the exposure of the battery to water.
@scottvogel84777 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see that your branching out to other electronics besides phones and computers. I totally agree the battery could have easily been made easier to replace with only minor changes.
@caydongravens58257 ай бұрын
After seeing the breakdown I think Im going to get one of these, having access to a channel like this makes me confident I could fix any future issues that might arise.
@HondaFit4Adventure7 ай бұрын
The battery is easy to remove. They did it the hard way.
@68pishta687 ай бұрын
How close is it really? It looks like you could wiggle it out with minimal force, ie maybe hit the screw terminals with a file for 1mm more room? I like the thick power rails on that motor controller, big solder blobs dont scare me.
@Threeuselesscars7 ай бұрын
I'd be asking if it really needed to be retained on both sides, and just remove the tabs on one side. Maybe add a little more velcro around the battery :)
@jameswilson89074 ай бұрын
As someone who spends all day working on cars I can guarantee you with a little bit of effort that battery would come right out without taking all those extra screws off. He was lacking maybe a 1-2 mm of clearance on that battery
@cadenchurchill42967 ай бұрын
This thing is cool! If possible I would love to see a video covering replacing a battery in an electric car. From what I've heard it's not easy, and like all batteries those wear out too.
@hunktubes7 ай бұрын
Take a LPF battery, used in most EV's these days. It has cycle life of 5000 times from 0-100%. Say the range is 400km then the battery life will be 5000 x 400 = 2 million km. So these batteries don't 'wear out'. Not before every other component of the car does. But yes, like any tech, a few will break beforehand.
@cadenchurchill42967 ай бұрын
@@hunktubes Interesting, thanks!
@Rturbo_7 ай бұрын
Great video on how to take the battery out. Thanks man going to make ship one and the battery needs to come out
@foemre7 ай бұрын
Bro is nitpicking on how easy the battery replacement is as if FINDING a honda motocompacto replacement battery is the easiest thing on earth
@asandax62 ай бұрын
It's just a pack of 18650 cells
@Alt_Aly7 ай бұрын
I would 100% have that if I lived in a city!
@RainTheUpriser7 ай бұрын
This is kinda goofy for a 12 mile range ngl
@moorepower137 ай бұрын
It's designed for the last mile. So that's 6 days of your commute.
@plainlybasic23007 ай бұрын
It's meant for "the last mile". Meaning you don't have a choice but you have to park a block away or similar. Then you hop on a ride to where you need. This will be awesome for everyone with an EV, when you can only charge it a little way from where you need to be. Plug your car in, and ride to where you need, then do it again to go home
@MattLitkeRacing7 ай бұрын
If I drive mine for about an hour the battery still has charge. And after an hour you’re sick of that small seat anyway
@donaldducko65806 ай бұрын
@@plainlybasic2300seriously? Why not buy a gas car then. Nobody does this with regular cars. They don’t park somewhere then pull out a bike for the “final mile.” Why are you ruining your life??? For what? Because someone who lies over and over and over told you the planet is in trouble and you must mine 500 tons of nonsense and drive an EV to save it? It’s lunacy. And they got you spending a fortune for the EV then another grand for your “final mile.” Think about what you said. Seriously.
@nynone45 ай бұрын
Great video! Just picked up my own Motocompacto. Definitely super fun. Hoping the release that both locks the seat down when unfolded and locks the folded handlebars in place is adjustable. The latch gives way and won’t allow the carrying handle use when the weight of the scooter pulls against it when trying to lift in the folded state. Haven’t looked closely.
@recklessjunkie7 ай бұрын
I’m actually hyped on this
@Jorge.ALXNDR7 ай бұрын
If it hadn't the name Honda on ti I would instantly assume that this was a product from some unknown chinese brand
@salmiakki56387 ай бұрын
This is one application were the power density of fuel made all the sense. A battery run electric version of the motocompo it's just too heavy and it has a lackluster range goven the dimensions of it
@santastabber7 ай бұрын
So, you separate the case from the top? I made an attempt and got scared of all the tabs.
@mustafabayzid7 ай бұрын
I think Honda should make a 21700 battery version of it, because 21700 can deliver more power (ampere) and has more capacity with slightly more volume. I think if Honda Don't do it, some after market solution will be available soon.
@EmmaKAlexandra7 ай бұрын
Would love to see iFixit teardown a Gazelle bike, maybe one with the Bosch smart system. There's a lot of tech in there & they seem infinitely more repairable than most tech
@Sm00k7 ай бұрын
For a first gen device? Not bad.
@Aka.Aka.7 ай бұрын
I hope they improve the range cuz for 1k usd it has to at least have 30
@williamlee87294 ай бұрын
would love to see a upgrade, move power, range and speed
@Grant53217 ай бұрын
So it uses an XT60 connector? Seems like you could add some zippier batteries in and see if it reveals the magic smoke or gains a few mph.
@HondaFit4Adventure7 ай бұрын
I think the motor controller is going to be your limiting factor. I extended the range on mine, increasing the top speed is next.
@Grant53217 ай бұрын
@@HondaFit4Adventure very true, this is getting extreme but there’s some pretty inexpensive motor controllers. You could swap out for a brushless motor and use some 12 S lipos and hit 60 lol
@mk2mike7 күн бұрын
You don’t have to pull all that crap off to remove the battery… Just four lower bin screws and raise it slightly to remove the battery
@PushyPawn7 ай бұрын
Making the battery difficult to access and not allowing limiting charge to 80% not an oversight, it's called *Intentional Planned Obsolescence* . The same goes for many other brands and devices. It's not in the manufacter's interest to have the product last far beyond its warranty period.
@eduardoizquierdo3097 ай бұрын
Its not dificult to acces, it probably takes like 5 minutes more, and also, why dont you give them the benefit of the doubt? If they really wanted to make this difficult to repair it would've been glued in and used less screws and more clips
@knowthycell7 ай бұрын
*planned obsolescence
@inothome7 ай бұрын
Uh, no.
@Atmatan7 ай бұрын
@@eduardoizquierdo309Why would you give a multil billion dollar company known for screwing over its customers the benefit of the doubt that you are anything more than numbers on a spreadsheet to them? Is your brain nothing more than a puddle of dead cells?
@Atmatan7 ай бұрын
@@inothomeGenuine facts. Use more words to make your point or get your disgusting grimey fingers off your display.
@jedics17 ай бұрын
Your average diy push bike has a bigger battery than that, what is all the other space being used for?
@JakeobE7 ай бұрын
That space is being used for the seat in order to fold it away inside, as well as space for the handle bar to collapse into as seen at 0:26
@AtomicGoober7 ай бұрын
Sell it in red and the 80's vibes are back!
@Luzgar7 ай бұрын
That kind of fail shows that repairability was not considered when developing this product. Why isn't the battery hot swappable lake every e-bikes ?
@khernitzz7 ай бұрын
This is intended for last mile commute. I'm not sure if you're gonna be hotswapping a battery for that purpose.
@Luzgar7 ай бұрын
@@khernitzz You might not need to, but why not give the option ?
@ryanjohnson45657 ай бұрын
Can we have an American version that caps at 55mph?
@dr.dylansgame55837 ай бұрын
When I saw this I wanted it so bad. But then I saw the Range all these ones I could actually easily lug down the stairs of my Apartment. They all universally have terrible Mileage and Sometimes Charge Times as well. If it had like 30 or More would be Instantly Sold.
@sonickrnd7 ай бұрын
Can you, please, use both systems metric and local one? Say "x pounds" and add the text "z kg" or vice versa. 12 mile is about 19km 265 lb is 120 kg 15 mph is about 25 kmh
@DaveCollierPEng7 ай бұрын
I mean, how often would you need to replace the battery? Once every 5 years? I think it is a misnomer to call a lithium Ion battery "consumable" if other parts of the machine break first. The whole thing is consumable with that logic. Not saying batteries don't have a lifespan before they are recycled.
@Empty_Vima7 ай бұрын
Hey, buddy, great job, keep it up! The content is awesome, can we have more of it? You're really doing great! Is it possible to have more of this more often?😎👍❤
@mattca3537 ай бұрын
Is it just me or most of the screws are directly screwed into thin plastic? Not much materials and easy to strip.
@HondaFit4Adventure7 ай бұрын
In some places there securing plastic to the metal frame. Other locations have a metal nut on the other side of the plastic.
@oneillkennys7 ай бұрын
How about Xiaomi scooter 4 ultra?
@DaniEles-rc7ij2 ай бұрын
VELCRO (tm) is not a low tech option. it's a space program development.
@reddcube7 ай бұрын
I hope a tool brand like Makita makes their own version of this.
@prostosergik7 ай бұрын
Someone, tell him about electric unicycles. Half a size, same weight, twice a range, no assembly needed before and after ride. .
@borky19875 ай бұрын
Even more than double range 😅
@Buy-n-large7 ай бұрын
FPV drone people seeing an XT60 connector in a honda
@nadiro7 ай бұрын
omg need that tee-shirt
@SkilllessFlorid3r7 ай бұрын
That scooter looks really good, but some of the connectors look really cheap. Some of them look like Tamiya motor connectors. The wiring in general could be done a little bit better for a thousand dollars scooter.
@714SNF5 ай бұрын
Not sure why they didn't make an easier way to access the battery since it would 100% need to be replaced in the future
@DoctorX177 ай бұрын
I wish it was able to carry bigger people and cargo DX
@Luzgar7 ай бұрын
This has already been tried and already failed (many times).
@channelmachinebroke96387 ай бұрын
What do you mean by this?
@Luzgar7 ай бұрын
@@channelmachinebroke9638 It's not the first vehicule of this type, and none of them were a success. In fact this is a successor to the Motocampo that was the same thing with an internal combustion engine. The actual answer to the problem is good public transit.
@wilgarcia17 ай бұрын
pretty nice.
@Guuzaka7 ай бұрын
0:17 19 kilometres of range, 120 kilogram limit, 8 Kilometres per hour? 🤔 I am not a scooter guy, but for some reason I do think that the range could be a bit better. 😅 Agreed that Honda should definitely release spare parts and manuals to the general public. 📖
@khernitzz7 ай бұрын
It's intended for last mile commute. More of like scooting from your place to the parking lot to throw in the back of your car. This has more than enough range.
@konstantin.v7 ай бұрын
They're electric *unicycles* for this already. I've even seen guys riding them in snow! 🤪
@ProfJermZ7 ай бұрын
I just want to know the dimensions of the body and stuff so I can start designing vinyl for it!
@HondaFit4Adventure7 ай бұрын
Roughly 20" by 30"
@Drivethisnotthat7 ай бұрын
I have one on order. Still waiting.
@68pishta687 ай бұрын
Did you get it at MSRP or did your Local Honda dealer ask ~$900? We saw a huge markup when searching for these locally So. Cal.
@Atmatan7 ай бұрын
🤡
@HondaFit4Adventure7 ай бұрын
I waited a little over a month for mine. The wait time was about 2 months the last I checked.
@HondaFit4Adventure7 ай бұрын
@@68pishta68 MSRP $1000 shipped to the local dealership.
@felixmcbride54487 ай бұрын
This was real creative... Where's the positive ends?@@Atmatan
@whothefoxcares7 ай бұрын
Honda should sponsor a pro womens cycling team. Fast women love screws and velcro.
@MorrisDugan7 ай бұрын
In the video, the battery pack has 20 18650 cells. Each cell is 3.7v. What is the output voltage of the pack?
@HondaFit4Adventure7 ай бұрын
42volts
@MorrisDugan7 ай бұрын
@@HondaFit4Adventure Are you sure it's that high? If you divide the pack into two sets of 10 cells, with each set wired in series, and the sets connected in parallel, that would give you 36-37 volts. How would the cells be configured for 42 volts? Or are there actually more than 20 cells?
@HondaFit4Adventure7 ай бұрын
The battery pack will measure 42volts at full charge and 34.5 volts when the battery meter starts to flash.@@MorrisDugan
@MorrisDugan7 ай бұрын
@@HondaFit4Adventure I suppose that's like a car battery that can be over 13 volts right after a full charge, but about 12.6 volts when it's "settled."
@HondaFit4Adventure7 ай бұрын
@@MorrisDugan Sounds about right.
@spg33317 ай бұрын
Cant beat the original
@adrian22757 ай бұрын
doEs iT hAVe VTEC?????
@Dubl3R7 ай бұрын
I wish the jackrabbit xg was 1k
@GoingtoHecq7 ай бұрын
I would prefer a bunker oil burning, sputtering mess thank you. I honestly think that last mile is not worth the effort of hauling a scooter for the rest of a commute.
@mitchib14407 ай бұрын
I really hope it's safer than those 'hover'boards from 2016. No random fires.
@nimoy0077 ай бұрын
This isn't remotely similar
@oplkfdhgk7 ай бұрын
it's cool but i think i will wait for electric honda monkey cus i don't really use public transportation.
@nph_ninja7 ай бұрын
seeing the notification bell I thought it was a disassembly of a samsung galaxy s24
@DumahBrazorf7 ай бұрын
He nearly killed himself in the first few seconds of the video. Leave it to workers of gigafactories...
@hal54747 ай бұрын
Nearly killed himself? How so?
@MtFoxt7 ай бұрын
Elaborate
@ginx26667 ай бұрын
With the placement of the battery you HAVE TO assume that making it difficult to replace was a deliberate corporate choice.
@Imthefake7 ай бұрын
it's just a few screws, it seems it's done to stop it from moving inside the case with vibrations
@CraftySasquatch7 ай бұрын
The quality of Honda engineers has gone way down over the past few decades.
@vandarkholme47457 ай бұрын
This seem over complicated. Average cheapo electric bikes in China have had detachable suitcase batteries for more than a decade. (Gotta admit they do catch on fire sometimes and some buildings ban them) They’re how electric scooter become so cheap to make in the first place.
@ingusmant7 ай бұрын
That battery is a joke...
@one_step_sideways7 ай бұрын
2:01 244Wh is not hefty at all. In order for it to be hefty, it should be at least 400Wh. (Yet) another missed opportunity to make the electric scooter more usable, especially if it ran on 48V instead of 36V to improve maximum power of the motor for going uphill and to improve the efficiency of the motor at high power. Going from 250Wh to 400Wh is only just a 1.5kg increase in total weight, not a big deal, especially since it's going to be useful weight. By the way, in order to limit the battery charge to 80%, you'd need to take apart the charger and twist the voltage knob to make it only output around 40V instead of 42V to charge it to only 80%. Not user-friendly out of the box, but that's usually how battery charge limiting is done on electric scooters. If it doesn't have a knob, something else (like using a series of diodes) may help you lower the charger's voltage to 40V.
@lorenzomijorus7 ай бұрын
Seriously? 🤣 This is an electric scooter with a seat! My Xiaomi scooter has the same specs and a super easy to replace battery
@wayando7 ай бұрын
I liked it, until now ...
@donaldducko65806 ай бұрын
Chinese will have it copied and selling for 1/4 the price in a month.
@borky19875 ай бұрын
Nobody will copy that piece of crap, trust me 🤣🤣🤣
@Atmatan7 ай бұрын
God no. I'll stick to my ebike Honda. Go tf out of business already.