Hondata FlashPro for Honda Civic Type R: Tested & Tuned

[@dsport]

0:25 Stock Dyno 0:45 Testing Procedures 1:03 Stock Dyno Chart 1:25 Datalogging 2:44 Does more boost make more power? 3:08 Hondata FlashPro 91 Calibration 3:15 Parameters Experimented with 4:46 Safety Margins

[@AliEsko]

You guys should start modding a Veloster N since it's so much fun to drive and it's obviously using it's power in a better way than the Civic type R

[@dsport]

@@AliEsko I am pretty sure we will soon.

[@TTVHASHxJOINTS]

What flash pro is that? I need 1 for my 2018 type r

[@van_der_lindeDA]

@@AliEsko hahahahahaha

[@Ace20001216]

@@AliEsko LOL the N sounds fun bro, the crackles and bang! But it was just lacking power I needed. I had a Veloster N. Although, I traded it in for a Type R, best decision ever imo!

[@TRACKMKIII]

I love this kind of tuning information!! Is there an extended version of the video with more details?

[@dsport]

Thank you, Sam. We're working on a WRX COBB reflash. That should be coming soon. We'll keep the extended version in mind. 👍

[@icedpatek860]

i like how the plate says "TALO KA" which means "YOU LOSE" in filipino 😂

[@dsport]

😂😂😂

[@kendelion]

tado ka is better!

[@andrewsalas7774]

Or Spanish which means "she crazy"

[@kendelion]

@@andrewsalas7774 but that's ta loka, i bet the owner of this car is filipino. Talo is Lose, Ka is You. :D

[@jj3ff3r50n808]

Tagalog?

[@303wrx]

Great video! Keep up the Type R content.

[@dsport]

+Dirty D thank you 🙏

[@Nmurderdrones123]

Great info guys, thanks for sharing! As an owner I love seeing this stuff before making decisions on the future of mine. Was there any video of tuning done with aftermarket bolt-ons (IC, DP, etc.) like in issue #203? That would be nice to see too!

[@dsport]

Thank you , Nick. We tested the AEM Intake, REMARK Catback Exhaust, Full-Race Intercooler, as well as the Hondata FlashPro on this Type R. Here's the link to the AEM intake testing. We will release the rest of the videos for this car soon. Stay "tuned" 😉😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/raPLe32XpJKDhNE

[@thebestofthebest199]

What are the size of the tires

[@RobbyWonder]

This is awesome! I wish he would have done it for E85 and 93 Oct. :D He really knows his stuff!

[@dsport]

Doug is a sea if knowledge...

[@JP-ne7xj]

Hondata does have E85 and 93 tunes available. Just did the 93 octane tune on my CTR today.

[@dsport]

@@JP-ne7xj Have you gotten it Dyno'd yet? How does it drive with this tune?

[@Mk5forLife]

U can't run e85 on a CTR, fuel system is weak,u need to spend another 3k on a hondata fuel upgrade.U can run e20 on a custom tune.

[@InfinitePandah]

Question! I recently bought a 2020 civic type R it’s already boosted up to 500WHP for sale from the dealership but the aem boost gauge isn’t wired nor there is Hondata flash pro. Do I really need to have a Hondata flash pro even though it’s already boosted?

[@TheSjh196]

How do you work around emissions

[@JIMMY_NEMESIS]

Those wheels, ouffff looking good, Always wondering which is good or better with pros and cons between Hondata or Ktuner

[@dsport]

They're both pretty capable. Hondata just offers a few things that make the owner's life easier. However, both are always being updated. So, it comes down to personal preference and features, as well as what is more important to you.

[@alcidesortiz9913]

What about the fuel level in the flash pro?

[@VonB3]

Very informative, Also sick jacket the tuner is wearing!

[@dsport]

Thank you

[@buben007]

What front grill is this? Can you post link?

[@dsport]

It's this mesh grille. www.procivic.com/p/m/civic/pro-design-honeycomb-performance-mesh-grille.html

[@jesterperez5152]

Was the car stock?

[@nathanyang3973]

Is this Hondata Flashpro Carb?

[@colinmcdonell5034]

Nice looking type R

[@dsport]

We did more testing on it, including exhaust, intake, and intercooler. We will be releasing them soon. Stay tuned and subscribe please. Thank you Colin.

[@MrAgustincuenca]

so, what is the explanation for the valley between 5200 and 5600 rpms? or around those numbers?

[@dsport]

Wouldn't call that a dip. That's more like a hiccup. Since this is occurring after the RPM of peak torque, cylinder pressures are on the decline. Normally, this means that you may want to be adding in back some slight amount of ignition timing. Since the Honda ECU is constantly making changes based on the feedback from O2 and knock sensors, we could just be witnessing a spot where the timing change is taking place. It could also be where the boost controller is increasing the wastegate duty cycle. There is also the possibility that other factors are at play. You have to remember there are a lot of things happening concurrently from injection events, ignition events and cam timing events. What isn't changing are the shapes of the piston and the combustion chamber. It is possible that at that particular engine speed, that volumetric efficiency or combustion efficiency drops. Bottom line is that finding the actual cause may not be feasible in some cases. Notice how the OEM Honda calibration also had a hiccup at this same engine speed.

[@murattopcuu]

hi i am living in turkey. And we only have 95 octane fuel in here so this map works with 95 octane too ?

[@dsport]

You should contact Hondata to be sure you choose the proper map. They may have a Map dedicated to higher-octane fuel.

[@johnemilyramirez249]

Bad ass video! Thank you

[@dsport]

Thank YOU

[@kongxiong6005]

thats insane amount of whp for just a flash.

[@ruelfullerton]

I need to purchase one of these flashpro, where can I purchase ??

[@dsport]

You can find it at Hondata.com

[@df9834]

This guy Nows some serious shit about this car 👌

[@thebestofthebest199]

What kind of wheels is the type r running

[@dsport]

These are Volk TE37

[@thebestofthebest199]

DSPORT what about the tire size

[@RaijinFK8]

Filipino owner for sure hahaha "TALO KA" license plate says translates to "YOU LOSE"

[@LeeGoddard9]

Where are you based please?

[@dsport]

We're based in Fountain Valley, California.

[@LeeGoddard9]

@@dsport Thank you very much for your swift reply. Somewhat saddened however as I live in the UK and struggling to find anyone who can tune my Honda FK8.

[@dsport]

@@LeeGoddard9 Sorry to hear that Lee. You should consider mobile tune by any reputable tuners.

[@nelc2399]

FD2R step into comment section

[@cooleye8887]

That plate talo ka is so corny lmao. Hondata for the win though.

[@1wasinAlpha]

only 30 HP? WTF? All this and all you gain is 30HP???

[@Mk5forLife]

Why hondas need 1,000s of $$ just to gain some extra hp? I used to have a 2018 GTI that will pick up 80hp from just a 93 tune done right at home.CTR need to upgrade intercooler,intake dp,full exhaust,hondata and other tweaks in order to gain 80hp.Take this Hondata for example: that's almost 1,000$ for just 20hp.

[@Mk5forLife]

@Sergio all those upgrades with e85 and still can't catch a tuned gti with just a DP.

[@Mk5forLife]

@Sergio e85?? U can't run e85 on a Ctr till u spend 3k on a hondata fuel upgrade,I know what I'm talking about cause I have a 2019 running e20 which is the most u can run before your weak system max out.So let's say that u need 8k$ to get those extra 100hp and I seen lot of guys blowing up them engines.

[@Mk5forLife]

@Sergio and E20 is your limit,now u need another 6k to over over that ceiling cause your weak fuel system. Now to all the blown out motors i seen at the dealership cause u pushing over the limit,bottom end they not that good like old k20 k24s. Don't be defending it,I do have a 2019 CTR and is the wrong platform for power but they great around the curves to go ahead and take your civic to some place where u can do hard turns,that's where u win my friend. *open your eyes,had u seen all the used CTRs for sale lately????

[@Mk5forLife]

@Sergio 2,900 but not everybody knows how to install that fuel kit, all that typing and when u planning to add clutch to the mix?? So now you on the 10k mark just to hug the 500hp club. Hondata alone is almost 1k.

[@Mk5forLife]

@Sergio so you think every guy into cars can do that type of work? Lot of guys can't even change a flat tire😅😅😅🤣 You gotta be nuts to pay almost 40k for a civic and add another 8-10k on upgrades just to be stucked on the 500hp mark. You should know by now that u need clutch and bigger turbo,now we way over the 10k.You know what? Is just not worth it,go back to the track where u can beat some,after all is just a civic that is only good around the corners. Me when someone like u mention a 1,000hp civic--->🙄

[@PR1NCETD0T]

Lol honda really underrated the bhp, no way its 294 whp and 305bhp? Gtfoh, more like 320bhp.

[@dsport]

We've seen OEMs do that before. We've had a GTI here before that delivered more to the wheels than the flywheel - completely stock.

[@unicornmeat4775]

Dyno set up plays a role as well. A dyno operator can make any car look like it has the amount of power someone wants to see. A dyno should be viewed as a before and after tuning tool, not a single snapshot in time. The important part is how much power you picked up after changes, not how much the overall final number is.

[@dsport]

@@unicornmeat4775 Exactly. This is why we do before and after and use the same dyno operator, conditions, etc. This way we have a solid foundation to see the gains.

[@cj41079]

true way to dyno....hood closed ;)

[@dsport]

👍

[@dsport]

@AOMechMarine AOMechMarine Yes, leaving the hood open on the dyno will show COMPLETELY different results and it is not real-life.

[@loudzzzz1027]

Talo ka? 🤔🤣 Is that your car?

[@lIlIllll1]

Type ahh

[@pikkagtr1942]

that's pretty bad pretty much what a golf gti makes on a tune

[@dsport]

The GTI's power is also underrated from the factory. We Dyno'd a 2018 GTI, and it was 236 horsepower to the wheels even though it was advertised at 220 to the flywheel. But to your point, the GTI has tons of potential with tuning.

[@dsport]

@AOMechMarine AOMechMarine It just doesn't have that crazy-looking factor.

[@Mk5forLife]

@@dsport all euro cars do,you can do a flash and dp on a GTI and that gain an easy 100hp. Civics need fbo n some more to get up there.This new engine is not as strong as the old k24s.

[@AliEsko]

So this car is making about 80whp more than my 2003 SRT-4 did 😎😎😎 but it's barely faster 🤔🤔🤔🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️😭😭😭😭😭

[@dsport]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWK9qGObiqifaMk

[@van_der_lindeDA]

The typeR will leave your srt for dead on a track stock tho....

[@Mk5forLife]

@@van_der_lindeDA key word- on a track😅 Not lot of ppl paying 40k for a civic that is only fast around curves🤣🤣🤣

[@van_der_lindeDA]

@@Mk5forLife not too sure what a supra is good at?

[@Mk5forLife]

@@van_der_lindeDA buy one and find out,u will never look back to any civic.

[@kylelaughinghouse1893]

That dyno graph shows alot of miss fires

[@dsport]

Hey Kyle, it's not actually misfiring. We don't have any filters on the Dyno, we have the Smoothing set at 1. Also, if we use higher octane fuel (CA fuel sucks) we would see smoother curves and timing.

[@pullmyniblets]

91 octane lol poor americans

[@dsport]

Where are you from and what fuel do you run?

[@pullmyniblets]

@@dsport australia and i only ever run 98 even when petrol prices are high ill only ever drop to 95 and thats for my daily stock cars..most peeps here who have tuned cars now just run e85 as its readily available these days..the only time id run 91 would be either in a rental or in someone i didnt likes car

[@dsport]

@@pullmyniblets haha, you guys are lucky. Not only do we have to run 91 octane, CA 91 SUCKS.

[@AndrewMillhouse]

Actually, in the US, octane is measured differently than in Europe or Australia.

[@taksakal12345]

@@AndrewMillhouse yes . usa 91 = eur 95 , usa 93 = eur 97