‘Honest conversation’ required around Labor’s renewable march

[@ThatGuy-ze5kk]

honest conversations won't start until we remove mr 'my word is my bond'!!

[@James-n5g1v]

There's nothing honest about govt

[@johngeier8692]

The horrendously costly and wasteful folly of climate action needs to be abandoned. We need to withdraw from the ridiculous Paris Accord and simply use the most economical energy resources available.

[@user-cy2qh5wi1o]

Paris, the city that hosted the worst woke Olympics in history.....Typical!!

[@BelloBudo007]

So much of this cultish BS is inflicted upon us by people who will never in the slightest be inconvenienced by the decisions they make on our behalf. And they don't even care to conceal how they go about things, travelling the world in private jets & limos while all the while preaching to the little people before jumping onto their jet to head off for yet more 'feel good' meetings to control our lives.

[@petermarsh4993]

This year there are 120,000 families in electricity stress not able to pay for their power bills as and when they come. Chris, what you talk about that is necessary for the “Green” dream is just that, a wild dream because it will never happen.

[@batmanlives6456]

Note to boofhead Bowen Looks like your fairy dust ain’t so cheap after all …. Who would have thought 💭

[@rosriggs9728]

Knock back the gold mine... 1b, knock back Jabiluka 50b.. because the the aboriginals dont want it. I hope they dont want their royalties and the dole either.

[@olddog-fv2ox]

Or their public service kings ransom salaries and superannuation and welfare.......

[@awc900]

You're joking. Getting honest conversation from Casanova Bowen and his boss Elmer Fudd, would be next to impossible.

[@timcoller177]

The words honesty Albanese and Labor should never be used in the same sentence

[@lesleycrowther-scott1809]

you are right it is an oxymoron just like army intelligence although that is unfair to the Army with comparison with Albo and his cohorts,

[@patrickdoolan4553]

Yes Labour needs to release all costings, if everyone was to switch to electric vehicles. All of the fuel that is used to drive vehicles would have to be replaced with electricity. This is just like NBN it is in the never , never. Australians weakup.

[@ianjones7740]

The wheels are coming off Albos’ pie cart.

[@jordanwardle11]

It not Albanese's fault that our infrastructure is DECADES obsolete. Yet, no one wants to actually do anything about it

[@johngeier8692]

Net Zero is economically destructive delusional insanity.

[@lornatodd4750]

It's been running on its rims for a while.....sparks starting fires everywhere.

[@batmanlives6456]

She’s been on its axles for years ….

[@olddog-fv2ox]

A conversation that goes something like this, "can anyone here in the cabinet actually count"

[@AximandTheCursed]

An honest conversation would entail a full set of costings thus far, as well as what it would entail logistically. Such a conversation would end the green pipe-hitting dream permanently, so don't expect them to participate of their own volition. They will have to be forced.

[@morganoox3838]

Its not just incompetence, it's treason.

[@Petergrand371]

The word honest doesn't exist in most of our parliament and the media never existed that's why we have this mess which the major 2 parties aren't able to fix

[@JeffElderhorst]

Before it's near finished they'll be replacing it all

[@pookeyhutchison7838]

We should be building what works and it is coal fired power stations.

[@peterbarnhoorn7879]

Well, I hear Vic new rail/tram systems won't cope with the energy supply...thks Bowen & Labor 😢

[@kkcw6668]

C'wealth Govt exists to manage OUR C'wealth. ITS NOT THEIRS. Why are OUR managers-in-trust on OUR behalf failing to "make this C'wealth of OURS renown of all the Lands"? (2nd verse Adv Aust Fair)

[@landcruiser11rum]

Albo & Labor have to go for good, another term of Labor will destroy Australia. There is a lot of damage that needs repair & it will take awhile after this mess they have created. Labor has stretched the limits of our AAA rating at this time & NSW is going to lose 14 billion dollars in the next year because of it.

[@elenawalker3746]

The march was created by the LNP under the Howard/Anderson team who bought in the 2002 the Renewable Energy Act that created a honeypot subsidy environment from TAXPAYERS and paid to companies to these toxic monstrosities, they are paid between $600K - $900K per turbine per annum in subsidy for one turbine. This subsidy is reaming over $40B per year out of the Australian economy and is paid by ALL Australians via our power bills.

[@hl5910]

Labor and honesty are a contradiction of terms. If labor gets another term Australia is doomed and it may be too late to fix the nightmare they've created and continue to inflict on the Australian people.

[@tangels]

Aboriginal groups should be paying land tax on all the land the they claim and on all the royalties they receive.

[@lesleycrowther-scott1809]

I have always thought of you Peta as highly intelligent, but to ask for honesty from the Labor party who are to a man and woman a bunch of liars, makes me wonder if my assessment of you was correct. But seriously you are one of only two journalists I hold in esteem.

[@user-du8kd3sn8n]

Yes. It needs to be accelerated so we can drop energy prices and create jobs. We have to be honest rather than play to the fossil fuel lobby

[@kenrasmussen4270]

why would fuel companies waste money on something that is going to fail.

[@nigelbowe6688]

Every 30 years

[@peterjames174]

question how much does it cost to erect a wind turbines, including the concrete footing

[@jasonhopkins7120]

Chris didn't mention the need for dispatchable energy when you have solar and wind. Here are some numbers. I have a physics degree and MBA and worked out the cost of dispatchable energy expected by 2050 based on AEMO 2024 Integrated System Plan p11, CSIRO 23-24 GenCost report appendix data, US department of energy hydrogen tank cost and one MIT report on nuclear. AEMO say we need 50GW power of dispatchable energy by 2050. For context if we used 75% of capacity and the wholesale price of electricity is $100/MWh the electricity would be worth $34billion/year for 327.6million MWh per year. To dispatch 50GW with batteries for 21days, 90% efficient, the battery cost would be $11.2trillion (not including solar and wind farm and grid improvement costs). To dispatch 50GW with natural gas with carbon capture and storage, the capital cost is $254billion and fuel cost of $100MWh (not including gas infrastructure for gas and CO2 transport). To dispatch 50GW with hydrogen for 21days, 25% efficiency, the capital cost would be $2.05trillion (not including solar and wind farms and grid improvements). To dispatch with large nuclear, the capital cost would be $396billion with fuel cost of $3/MWh. Note you need 3 times as many solar and wind farms with hydrogen storage compared to battery storage. Also note the cost of batteries (CSIRO), hydrogen equipment (CSIRO), Gas CCS (CSIRO) and large scale nuclear (MIT) is expected to half over the next 10years. Note they have different life expectancies, batteries 10-15 years, nuclear 60-100 years, the others in between. Some say we need 6weeks dispatchable energy storage; some say a week. The AEMO plan for 2035 is to have about 20GW of dispatchable utility storage with rest hydro and gas with no coal.

[@batmanlives6456]

For green energy to be dispatchable, you need somewhere between 7 to 9 times the rated output…. That is a FACT This makes green power so expensive and unattainable it’s ridiculous

[@PaulSmith-ss6zm]

Forget net zero, its a load of bollex

[@pkd6369]

Albo-Cross the Albo-tross

[@batmanlives6456]

Labor and Honest conversation… You must be having a laugh 😆 These two things should not be in the same conversation

[@helen_3757]

Chris Uhlman for PM

[@gerards7075]

Uhlman is a long time leftie, probably further left than Albosleazy.

[@honahwikeepa2115]

Honest 😂. What is this for the Marxist?

[@comacuma2869]

Auwwstraiiiliaannn dhaaaug

[@wilbur1884]

LOOK OAT ME-LUMN ALBO'S GOWWIN INDA LAYBOUR OVA AT DA LAYBOUR PARTY HAULERING OAT WHERE'S MAYE CUPA TAYE ☕️👋🤪OVA AT DEE OLE NAULSTEOUS OF DAMNED OLE DAYOOH'S.

[@richardsuter2816]

Honesty is a word that is not known to politicians especially Albo

[@The_Resistance_1961]

What next? Charging stations where you peddle a bike hooked up to a dynamo?

[@jimmyjack7884]

Honest or adult