Honest Review! Arcade1up Williams Attack From Mars Virtual Pinball Table

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[@chrisa.8814]

Im so glad you pointed out those weird lines that im also seeing from the plexi glass on my AFM pinball table. I am definitely replacing with the proper glass. Its distracting for me to see the lines during gameplay.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, I don’t think anyone pointed that out in their video. I wasn’t sure what was going on the first. I will definitely look into that down the road. I can’t blame them for using plexiglass because that box was pretty heavy as it was.

[@NoahSties]

Really want one of these but haven't gotten the chance to buy one. Good review. I will definitely set my expectations to a novelty furniture piece rather than an at home pinball solution, I think I will enjoy the unit much more if I dont expect a comparable pinball experience. Plus I'm used to pinball fx on switch so I know what I am paying for to some degree. Not even the highest end of pcs can recreate the feeling of real pinball.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, I think your expectations are in the right place. I’ll admit, part of the experience of Arcade1up machines is owning the good looking furniture, i mean cabinets/tables. I am getting more used to the experience, but nothing replaces a real table. Thanks for stopping by!

[@IndigoRyno]

i dig your style dude. I enjoyed your review, new sub, thanks for sharing!

[@EvrydayErik]

Hey, thank you and welcome! I put all my arcade one up reviews into my Arcade1up playlist. If you’re looking for my thoughts on another cab, it might be there.

[@kjrchannel1480]

LCD ball for the masses. Will never replace the real game physics.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, it’s like a cute toy version of the real thing. I don’t regret having it because I like two of these tables. But it’s never going to replace the real deal.

[@peterbeihoff58]

I think you were right on mark with the review. I’m hoping changing out the plexiglass for real glass changes some of the clarity issue. And a patch from A1up for some of the playability. There is a free and easy mod to improve the solenoid haptics 👍 The A1up does grow on you after playing more. Also, the Arcade 1up machine should have little to no maintenance, a real Pinball machine has considerable amount of maintenance to keep it going. And the cost vs a real machine is excellent ! Just wish it was a little better

[@EvrydayErik]

You’re right on with your comments. I do know how much the maintenance is on a real machine because my friend owns a bunch of his restaurant. He basically leases these machines and the maintenance is included. Yeah this table does grow on you, I think just a little more horsepower would’ve made this perfect. They also need to fix white water.

[@Tee-qc2cy]

Thanks for the great video Erik. I don't have expectations of it been as good as a real pinball table but I have to say that the gameplay looked great in your video. It looked really smooth. There are no arcades close by to me and I dont have space or money for full size real pinball. I have SW and Marvel on order and hopefully pick up AFM at some point. They look like a lot of fun

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah I probably should’ve clarified some things, but the video was getting super long. The gameplay is smooth. The ball physics works and I have no gripes about the flippers. I just think it needed a higher resolution or better graphics to bring some artificial depth into the playfield. But yeah, it plays well. Cheers!

[@Tee-qc2cy]

@@EvrydayErik thanks for your reply Erik 😊 that's great to hear the physics and gameplay is smooth. I usually am such a graphics freak but I'm hoping that I forget about that once I get into a game. Cant wait to try it out. Never tried Vpin b4 and I honestly dont have the time to go building and tinkering. Keep up the great content dude , take care

[@grazz7865]

All the game rooms in the malls near me closed for whatever reason. They reopened a game room recently at one of the malls but not one pinball machine. They are expensive to own and operate. The real pinball machines require constant maintenance (solenoids, bumpers, flipper actuators, lights). I’m sure the video version of it will be tons less maintenance but i don’t expect it to last more than 5 years. From what I’ve learned with electronics, they never last. My dad had a tube TV for decades. The electronic TVs that I buy don’t last more than 5 or 6 years and we’re talking descent brands (LG, Samsung). I will buy it for the experience and enjoy it for what it is.

[@EvrydayErik]

@grazz7865 i’ve been looking at the Atgames legends 4K. I might pull the trigger on one of those.

[@grazz7865]

@@EvrydayErik the one thing I like about the Atgames is a bigger screen and more games. However, I do not like anything connected via wifi or Bluetooth. Too easy for the company to send a signal to disable my product and force me to buy a new one.

[@Cotivity]

You gripe, but you've made me want these machines even more now...🤣

[@EvrydayErik]

I would really hold off for a second generation. My G sensor went out online and I had to get a replacement part. That controls the nudge. I was getting false nudges. This is fun, but I think they need to develop it a little bit more. But I don’t have any buyers remorse.

[@jeffwalsh2384]

I have the AFM pinball and love it. Hopefully what Jon and Mel said is true and we will get the patch and be able to upgrade pcbs with wave 2. But untill then me and my wife think it is more fun that my marvel table. It's not perfect but it's fun as hell.. 👍

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, I’m playing it and having fun with attack from Mars and medieval Madness. I think this would be a slam dunk if the resolution was a little bit better. I would pay to get an upgrade on the processor so they could increase the resolution. I don’t want to carry another large box up here again.

[@jeffwalsh2384]

@@EvrydayErik that is the plan listening to Mel from zen studios and Jon from arcade 1up that we will be able to buy upgraded pcbs hopefully better resolution and wifi with a online store is the plan think. But fingers crossed.

[@kivie13]

Sounds like a fair review. It was finally available again at BB for ordering and shipping last night so I decided to get it. Rumor has it they are working on a patch to address Whitewater, the nudge, and the screens being too bright so hoping they do that. I'm not expecting an authentic pinball experience, I am expecting a video pinball experience.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, it’s fun, I’m playing medieval Madness and finally got a good high score in that one where it would save it. I enjoy playing attack from mars as well.

[@kivie13]

@@EvrydayErik MM is thee main reason I am getting it.

[@wib714]

I have this machine and absolutely love it. Ten games that are pretty realistic for 750 bucks. I hope to buy the marvel and star wars cabinets as well

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah I do return to his machine and play it often. I am one of those people that are having trouble with the G sensor. I’m getting ghost nudges and it’s a little annoying. It comes and goes, but I’m gonna have to contact Arcade1up support and see if I can get a new sensor.

[@swizard0922]

Hello and good morning. I was planning on picking up one of the three pinball offerings from Arcade1up. Do you know if they have released any software updates for the tables?

[@EvrydayErik]

Yes, they did release the software update for attack from ours. I can’t speak to the other ones because I don’t on those. It did fix the bugs. I have a problem with my accelerometer, which is responsible for the tilt, but I’m looking into some options for that. It might be fixable. Overall, I do enjoy having this and it is fun

[@FROSTINATOR]

Im installing exciters inside when i get mine to achieve more of that real feel of the ball rolling around.

[@EvrydayErik]

That’s a great idea, are you gonna do a video? I would love to see how that’s done.

[@FROSTINATOR]

@@EvrydayErik Sorry I don't have a video. I installed two in the front and two in the back on inside walls. Unfortunately at the moment there is a load high ptiched buzz happening. It's also happening with the subwoofer i put in too. Might need a noise cancelling device hopefully. Strange. I have subwoofer in some of my arcade cabinets using the stock speakers and it works great. Again hopefully i can get it to work out because the added woofer and exciters so much better. Minus the buzz. Haha

[@TheBomo]

Nothing beats the sound of a ball getting loose as it makes a collision 💥 with the glass.

[@EvrydayErik]

Nice! Yep, no ball or glass here. Not quite the same.

[@AustinSteingrube]

Have you updated the table since the original review? Any improvements?

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, I did update that patch and it did fix those glitches. Over the summer my G sensor went bad and they sent me a new one. But I haven’t been able to install it yet. I’m a big fan of some of these tables, so I still don’t have buyers remorse.

[@docsavage4921]

Huh, so are these all basically enhanced Zen tables? FX3? When the new FX comes out, does it include a free update to the new engine?

[@EvrydayErik]

No, there’s no upgrades here. These are the Zen tables you can play on your switch or on your PC. The problem is, they’re running 780 on a 1080 screen, that kind of sucks.

[@killeradios5]

Just got mine. I freaking love it! I think everyone's complaints are valid but for the money it is a huge upgrade over playing on my switch.

[@EvrydayErik]

Cool! I am playing it a lot. It’s fun! I’m glad you are enjoying it and are issue free. Cheers!

[@brutaljustin1349]

Not that I would get it anyway, but would've love to see a Williams virtual pinball table with older games like Taxi, Gorgar, Pinbot, and Funhouse.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yes, i’m pretty sure those are going to be on the next offering. Those are some very good pinball machines. Hopefully they upgrade the software. I am having fun with it, so I would probably pick up another one.

[@Hiylow]

Are you going to do an update since the new firmware is out and reported it has fixed problems and adjusted the graphics somewhat.

[@EvrydayErik]

Other people have beat me and made videos. I finally downloaded the update yesterday and it does do everything it says. White water is finally playable. I also like how you can adjust the accelerometer. The graphics are still the same resolution, but I think it did fix some frame rate issues on a couple games. The worst part of downloading the patch is that it erased all of my high scores. I don’t think I’m ever going to get To mars again in attack from Mars, so that sucks.

[@vilhelmstein2091]

Honestly as long as attack from mars an medieval madness work I'll be happy

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, those are the only two I’ve been playing just because I already have the layout of the tables memorized. When I try to play some of the other ones I don’t know too much, it’s a real struggle. Those are the two best tables on here.

[@ghostbombl8034]

Since its lcd screen, dos it ghost like 2d mames games on lcd with out crt or quick hiccups because the game refresh dos not match lcd screen?

[@EvrydayErik]

I don’t see any of those refresh issues or hiccups that I think you’re talking about. The games run pretty good.

[@ghostbombl8034]

@@EvrydayErik nice man.thank you for the reaply.

[@jasong5321]

I have 3 Williams machines in the living rooms but I honestly think these would be cool for my two kids rooms....plus easily fit through the doors on their rooms. Now to find 2. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@EvrydayErik]

First of all I’m jealous. I do like the size of this virtual pinball table, yes it fits easily along side my other cabinets. I love all the physical things going on here I just wished the graphics had more resolution and depths. It’s fine, so I think they would enjoy it.

[@jasong5321]

Ya just got a Subscriber Erik.

[@Robtrex2112]

Thx for the honest review. Picked mine up today, my first video pinball machine. Talk about buyer's remorse. I feel horrible. I intentionally held off buying the Star Wars unit due to all the hype I kept hearing about AFM. I sooo want to sell this tomorrow. 😥

[@EvrydayErik]

Hopefully a grows on you. Medieval Madness is a lot of fun and I’m trying to get better at attack from Mars but it is very hard. I’m not really playing any of the other games. I think you could sell this and get most of your money back

[@cynandude]

Some thoughts... How is it that the resolution 720 and not 1080 or 4K in year 2021? I think higher resolution would make a big improvement. As I understand it, there’s no ability to add more tables. But it’s all software, so I guess users are prevented for adding more tables due to licensing/legalities. If that’s the case, too bad. I’d be willing to pay for more tables if they were available for download. Anyway, it’s still a neat concept and would be interested in trying it out. Will be interesting to see how Arcade1Up evolves them. Thanks for putting the review together.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah I pretty much agree with everything you’re thinking and saying. I expected a lot more horsepower under the hood. And I think it is time to make these things compatible with downloading games and going online.

[@kevinmach730]

I don't own one yet, but have been kicking the idea around, and I agree, they missed a lot of opportunities here. Real glass, wifi updates, 1080p, better solenoids- I'd pay 2 or 3 hundred more dollars for that. Downloadable games for purchase, , online leader boards, head to head remote play etc- those upsells could have justified charging a bit more and guaranteeing Arcade1Up a little money on the backend. From a business perspective, this sounds like the marketing and sales teams could have made this more exciting and profited more in the process.

[@EvrydayErik]

@kevinmach730 yeah, there’s definitely room for improvement. My sensors went bad that handle the nudge. I was getting false nudges. Arcade1up did send me a replacer sensor, but it’s pretty involved to replace and I haven’t got around to it yet.

[@cobrabtc]

Curious it’s been a year. Have they fixed and patched the games? All working now? Worth buying now or not?

[@EvrydayErik]

The patch fixed the games I wasn’t really playing anyway. My G sensor went bad. They sent me a new one. That’s what controls the nudge. I was getting false nudges during gameplay and had to just turn it off. I don’t have buyers remorse, because I really love attack from Mars and medieval madness. I think it could use a couple upgrades in a next version. So I would probably just hold off.

[@jorgemoreno8115]

have a great monday this was worth it

[@EvrydayErik]

Have a great Tuesday!

[@ThomasGrillo]

You mentioned seeing a linear visual artifact, which you feel may be associated with the play field plex. There is a small number of people who can actually see polarization in LCD panels. Even if you replace the plex with glass, you're still going to see the polarization artifact. It's more noticeable at the shallow angles we view a Vpin from, whilst playing. Even though I'm legally blind, I've noticed I can sometimes make out the polarization in car windows, under certain conditions. I've even noticed the effect on a $900 flat panel, which nobody else could see, but one other person I know. I thought it was a flaw, but a manufacturing rep suggested I talk to an eye doctor, who did confirm that it was me, and not the screen. Regarding the nudge, you don't need to rock the table. You only need to thump the side of the table, to get the desired movement on the ball Rocking the table, forcibly, will input forces the accelerometer can't process, as they go beyond their rated detection values. I agree, the backbox marquee should've been square, like on your physical Attack from Mars table. I don't have this one, yet, but do have Marvel, and Star Wars pinball tables. I can't see the tiny, little DMD, and had to build a custom magnification rig. Thanks for sharing this.

[@EvrydayErik]

Some other people have agreed with me and we do think it’s the actual plexiglass causing these lines. You only see it in certain situations and if you’re looking for it. I think glass would look better, but it would be heavier and this box was heavy enough for me. I don’t mind the back screen, it is a little washed but I’m good with it. Thanks for stopping by and checking out the video!

[@ThomasGrillo]

@@EvrydayErik Well, I did make holograms, professionally, back in the 80s, and 90s, and noticed if I used glass plates that were too thin, or if the reference beam entered the plate at a very shallow angle, those lines were also recorded. I don't know if the side rails will allow for a thicker pane of glass. You might have to drill new holes, slightly higher up, to accommodate a thicker pane. I have seen that effect on a thin piece of plex, as well. Hope you get that artifact sorted.

[@alexshdvideo]

Thank you for posting.. it’s really interesting.. I would be more interested at $300.. it does make me want to try some of those digital pinball for xbox one. Something like this would make me buy/not buy by trying in person.. and they are just not out there at stores to try out. I’m in country so have to drive to next county to go to Wall Mart to try a broken Arcade1up Turtles without controls.. but just to see one in person. But I think it is really interesting, and maybe some day get one.

[@EvrydayErik]

I keep replaying this, even though I was a critical. I think you just have to have your expectations in the right place. I also think a little more horsepower would’ve really made this special. It looks great in my mini arcade. I also went to my local Walmart to see the turtles game. I never picked that one up, if it came back out again with a lighted marquee I might get it.

[@kdj29]

i got a 450.00 sharpin from germany to hook up to my nintendo switch. its great. i bought it because arcade 1up couldnt tell me when i could pre-order mars attacks from best buy or game stop. and i loved the sharpin so much, i bought an 8,000.00 virtual table with everything. i own the real midway whitewater table, its my favorite all time table.

[@EvrydayErik]

Damn, I’m pretty jealous. Can I download attack from ours and have the two screens? I’m sure I can download the actual pinball table but I also want to have the back screen going as well. I don’t know enough about downloading or finding these online.

[@102Lawdog]

I love my SW Pinball. I have no nostalgia for real pinball. My only memories are of broken mechanisms and lost quarters. Virtual pinball is all that saved the form factor for me. So the price is perfect entry...and Star Wars is one of my favorite IPs. I did replace glass and it helped visuals way more than I thought. Worth it.

[@EvrydayErik]

OK, so I guess I am right that the plastic plexiglass is making those lines. Yeah maybe I just need to get used to virtual Pinball. Maybe some thing like the Star Wars Pinball is designed the better so you can figure out what’s going on. I think this software is trying to cram too much onto the screen and it kind of scrambled my brain. Thanks for stopping by!

[@102Lawdog]

@@EvrydayErik you are right about the lines. My review on this is from a casual pinball person mindset. If you are like me you will probably love it. I think comparing real tables is a big mistake for the real pinball fan base. That is why it seems the worst reviews I have noticed is always for the Attack From Mars table. These are not pinball. Its like comparing real warfare to paintball. While visually it reminds you of it and reaching that goal of victory can still be exhilarating...it is still not the same. For someone like me it is perfect. Take racing games for example...we all loved them growing up the past few decades. It is nothing like real racing or driving in general. We do prefer better simulations but we can still bust out something like out run and enjoy it. Because we were exposed to the game first generally speaking. So we are not always turning around saying...this is not like real racing.

[@theiceman1972]

I understand that. I use to work at a Time Out and damn I hated the damn near daily upkeep of pinball machines. I would never want one in my house. They are pretty, and fun when they work but a pain in the ass for upkeep.

[@CardinalsLetsGo]

I bought the Star Wars model when these first released and really enjoyed it....then I started opening my eyes to what vpin could be and how far these machines are from that. I sold the Star Wars model when the price jump hit, so I made all of my money back that I had spent and reinvested that into the AtGames Legends. I found an old Dell Optiplex and threw an Nvidia 1650 in it and was on my way with OTG mode. It was a world of difference mainly with the larger playfield (32" vs 24", but also having a full video board for the backglass as well as a higher resolution. Count in the ability to push the graphics to the max for FX3 and I was very happy. Then I discovered VPX and PInupPopper and haven't looked back. Since then I've added some haptic feedback to the AtGames and it replicates the real feel of the tables extremely well. Not a lot of investment either, since VPX is free.

[@EvrydayErik]

I took notes on everything you wrote. I’ll check it out. I would’ve went with the Atgames Legends, but mars attacks and medieval madness are two of my favorite pinball games so I got suckered into buying this even though I know there’s better product out there. I don’t have any buyers remorse because it is fun, but I really wish it was in 1080. The 720 is rough.

[@CardinalsLetsGo]

@@EvrydayErik There are versions of Attack From Mars and Medieval Madness that are on VPX and replicate the actual tables really well, even better than FX in my opinion. If you end up going down the rabbit hole, highly recommend Wagner's Tech Talk, he does a great job of walking you through it step by step. I really enjoy your channel, and your honest opinion.

[@EvrydayErik]

@@CardinalsLetsGo OK, thank you. I think I just might jump down that rabbit hole. I’ll check out that channel. If I can get an upgraded version of those two, I’d be very happy.

[@misterchip1984]

You spelled disappointed wrong on your heading graphic fyi.

[@EvrydayErik]

@@misterchip1984 Thanks for letting me know! I’ll just let it ride now.

[@vilhelmstein2091]

I almost ripped that cord of when assembling lol

[@EvrydayErik]

For sure, I’m surprised I didn’t scratch the side of my table taking it out of the box.

[@danidavis7912]

What is the actual dimension in inches, of the unit front to back?

[@EvrydayErik]

Hey, I usually shoot the image on the box that has the dimensions. I can’t recall if I did that in this video.

[@danidavis7912]

@@EvrydayErik It's odd but I can't find the over-all dimensions on the web, just the size of the playfield. I think I have a spot I can fit this in, in one of my game rooms but I just wanted to be sure. Where I want to put it, there's a door that opens up into the space.

[@mosquitos777]

Very good revieuw, live youre style

[@EvrydayErik]

Hey! Thank you! Have a good one!

[@UnBoXingsGalore]

Looks like fun and price is good for what u get

[@EvrydayErik]

I am having fun with it, I finally got the highest score in attack from Mars, so that’s exciting. Compared to the new prices of the cabinets (x-men) this was a bargain.

[@lacrossed55]

I really like mine BUT I can't recommend until there is a patch to fix/ adjust the high scores, White Water, and my AFM table high scores don't scroll. Question does your HS menu on Attack From Mars scroll? I got saucer champion when I got the second place score but I never see my initials on that score because it doesn't scroll to it. Erik MAKE SURE you open a ticket with Arcade1up, because the person seemed pretty dismissive of my concerns

[@EvrydayErik]

When you’re done with the game the high scores do go up and down and show the grand champion at the top and the ruler of the universe on the bottom. When you’re in the main menu and you can flip through the games it does scroll up and down the same way.

[@lacrossed55]

@@EvrydayErik Mine does not fit AFM does not show saucer Champion etc. - Thanks for checking

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah I don’t see saucer champion on the list here, it just goes up and down a little bit to reveal who is the ruler of the universe.

[@lacrossed55]

@@EvrydayErik Thanks Erik. My Initials when to it, then I never saw it again.

[@skipsterz]

It’s just so hard to simulate the player being one with the machine when it comes to pinball. The clicking and clacking and feeling of electro-mechanical functions being performed under the table.

[@EvrydayErik]

Oh yeah, none of that is in this machine. They tried with the accelerometer and the celluloids, But they’re not there yet. I really just do wish this was in 1080P, which is the resolution of these games anyway. I’m familiar with the machines so it it’s OK, but a little more resolution would create some depth I think on the screen.

[@skipsterz]

@@EvrydayErik I’d be interested in a Tales of the Arabian Nights release. That’s one of my favorite tables. I was surprised to see it’s included in the pack. Fighting the Genie to rescue the princess at the end is intense.

[@sebas19722]

Hey! I bought an Atgames Legends Pinball and I LOOOOOOVE IT!! I hooked my computer up to it and I can play all the Zen Studio tables as well as video pinball versions of popular tables such ad Medieval Madness or Attack from Mars. If you can get a chance to try it, I think you'll prefer it to the Arcade 1up machines. The Atgames Legends pinball machine is easily upgradeable. I love to tinker with it. I greatly recommend it!

[@EvrydayErik]

Believe it or not I don’t have a personal gaming computer right now. But I would love to do what you did. yeah, the Arcade1up pinball is more of a toy. The Atgame legends mod is definitely real virtual pinball! I’m jealous, I’ll have to look into it.

[@redwizard0004]

I wonder how difficult it would be to swap out the little computer in there for a better one and put better virtual pinball software on it. The little cabinet doesn't seem too bad. I have 4 real pinball machines, but it would be cool to have something like this for the machines that l like, but don't like enough to actually buy and then figure out where to put. $600 + some relatively inexpensive PC parts that are probably already laying around my house might be a good price for a little virtual machine like that. This thing running TPA or Zen would be pretty neat I think.

[@EvrydayErik]

I would totally be into upgrading the CPU. My main concern is you can get the pinball game that’s on the table, but can you also find the software for the back screen. And can you sync the two? Let me know if you find somewhere where you can grab all that and have both screens running at once. Then I would definitely upgrade and put a computer in this.

[@redwizard0004]

@@EvrydayErik There are programs that will do the table, the DMD and the backglass screens. Here is an example. I am sure there are others and I haven't personally used this version of TPA. I know they have some licensing issues with Williams these days. www.arcoodapinballarcade.com/

[@jtrevrb1]

Thanks for this Eric. I was thinking about it. But after this vid, I can’t drop 600 bones on this. Maybe with goofy glasses and a 3D monitor?? I don’t know. Hard to replace true pinball physics and sounds.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, my main complaint is the resolution. There is no sense of death here so it’s hard to tell what should be physical pieces and the flat playing field.

[@kiwisoup]

Look up the BAM Kinect mod for Future Pinball to see a good example of simulated depth without glasses.

[@shaynes.9773]

I had no idea this even existed. I guess there would be the nostalgia draw for me too. I had a lot of great times playing "Attack from Mars" and "Medieval Madness" about 15 years ago. I had a group of friends who would head to a lounge that was across the street from the office building after they got off work. We would all meet up there, just have drinks and play pinball for a few hours. It was good times. To be fair to Arcade1up, they did get a decent representation of the actual hardware pinball machines-- a little soft/ pixelated, but still a good effort to visually capture something that was physical hardware in a video screen image. I was able to really get mentally taken back to the actual "Mars" and "Medieval" pinball machines I used to play. I was hoping that your review would show the Medieval castle freaking out... I used to get a real kick out of that when that castle would start slapping around. Does the video pinball ever get stuck in the left ramp cage?...lol. The one I used to play one would occasionally have the ball get stuck in the ramp...lol. But that is just the thing... this is a video representation. Not playing on the actual hardware pinball machine will feel "different" and not have the quirks of an actual pinball machine. I am not sure I would even want to play the Arcade1up version.... I know I would be somewhat let down and just wish that much more that I was playing on a real pinball machine. But I give Arcade1up total credit. It is a good emulation, but just like playing on video game console emulator, I prefer the feel of the actual original hardware systems. I am really at the point of just not even bothering with any kind of emulators, it just lacks certain subtleties of the original hardware that is being emulated. Just my personal preference. I think I will just save the $600 and put it into a savings account and save up for a couple of years to buy the actual pinball machine. Thanks for the review-- I honestly had no idea that someone did a video game version of these pinball machines. It was a valiant effort. I agree with you, if someone hasn't played the actual "Attack From Mars" or "Medieval Madness" they might really have fun with this. But once you played on the actually machines, it is hard to substitute a video game port for the hardware . I don't think I would be very happy with it.

[@EvrydayErik]

Thanks for the great comments! I just got Castle Champion and the second place score this morning on Medieval Madness! Finally, I have my initials in there. Sorry, I left out the castle shake, it looks cool on this! Attack from Mars and Medieval are fun. I just think a little more horsepower would make this shine! I havn't got the ball stuck in the ramp yet. This table has a lot of play value compared to the A1up cabs.

[@billybatson8657]

@@EvrydayErik There's a guy near me that has an Attack From Mars for $450. It has "Custom graphics, real glass, Szabo’s Arcade topper, coin and launch buttons, TMNT stool w/ custom stool cover, and A1up pinner mod w/ all 30 tables plus all the extras." the extras being the downloadable games like Jurassic Park, ET, Addams Family etc. He sent me screenshots of the games lists he's paid to download onto it. The stool has a graphic that looks like it would had 1up included stools with the pinballs. The added coin door, real glass, the szabo topper and the custom stool are probably worth $200 alone I would guess, but he's done all the footwork installing the pinner mod, and bought extra games. I'm thinking of buying it, but I don't want my wife to kill me lol. I just bought a $199 Simpsons and $299 T2 yesterday (Sams has Simpsons for 199 and Ultimate MK3 for $249, which I'm also on the fence on). I really want to play pinball, especially Jurassic Park and some of the other classics, do these machines really satisfy your pinball craving, or is it a completely different experience all together?

[@indigo9434]

I feel like this wouldn't be a bad option, but it is lacking a few features when compared to the real table or even a full sized virtual pinball. But you can't beat that price either...

[@EvrydayErik]

I play the two tables I like on it. The lower resolution still bugs me. And the ball physics on Attack from Mars it’s nothing like the real table.

[@zro2gon]

Junkyard has issues as well. The flippers aren't strong enough to reach the higher ramps. See if you have that same problem as well. They have lots of issues to patch and hopefully they do it in a timely manner otherwise mine is getting sold.

[@EvrydayErik]

Oh man, I didn’t play too much junkyard yet. I remember playing this one as a kid but I haven’t played it in years. I think they said they want to do one big patch fixing everything so it might take longer.

[@RogueAngelXL]

My scoreboard and speakers never worked. I'm still waiting on support to send me the replacement parts.

[@EvrydayErik]

Oh wow, the G sensor for the nudge went bad on mine.

[@arcadewill7011]

Evryday Erik, thanks so much for your great review. It felt like I was there with you as you expressed genuine observations about your experiences with AFM. Excellent job. Arcade Will

[@EvrydayErik]

Hey, thank you! A lot of people review these but I try to do it a little bit differently and be honest. This was a long one, but if you’re on the fence about buying it, I wanted to give you as much as I could.

[@billm4262]

Been trying to order one for over 3 months, never available.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, I just jumped on board as soon as I saw it pop up on the best buy website. Arcade1up‘s distribution this year is horrible.

[@billm4262]

@@EvrydayErik Agreed! PS5 and the new XBox seem to be having the same issues as well. Luckily there really aren't many games that wont run on the previous consoles at this time.

[@vilhelmstein2091]

I think they need the ability to change the viewing angle on the tables. Especially for the trolls in medieval madness.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, if they can figure that out that would be great. I hear what you’re saying, it would be cool to change the angle I wonder how they could do that because you’re missing out on a lot of the magic of the table.

[@JRthepyroguy]

I'll take my chances with the at game legacy. Thanks for the review. It gave me a better idea 💡how it looks and play.

[@EvrydayErik]

I’m glad I help, if you love attack from mars or medieval madness, I would recommend it just for those two. I hot the high score for Mars yesterday it was a thrill. I just wished it was in 1080. This is so close to being brilliant.

[@JRthepyroguy]

@@EvrydayErik awesome brother. I'm thinking about it. Because the the atgames pinball machines are better then the arcade 1up.

[@funtyes1970]

@@EvrydayErik yeah kinda like what atgames legends pinball is 1080p and 32' main playing field and it haves 15.6 inch LCD backglass and A1up wants $850 for this lol . and you can use a computer on a atgames legends pinball and you can play future pinball,VPX,FX3,Zaccaria, and so on . if i have $850 I'm buying a atgames legends pinball just saying i feel like you get more for your money

[@memyopinionsche6610]

Planing to get one. For 600 it's about as close to getting a pinball machine that I can get. I'll take it.

[@EvrydayErik]

I hear you, I enjoy that evil madness and I’m trying to get better at attack from mars. I hear the Atgames Legends Pinball is a lot better, too bad they don’t have these tables.

[@gsbarlow4]

legends pinball is way better

[@IanJacobyandcompany]

Yo. Just an FYI, the table guide is available on all real machines in bottom left corner. How familiar are you with pinball games?

[@EvrydayErik]

Pretty familiar! It’s a little more comprehensive and readable on the Arcade1up. Cheers!

[@brokenhalo22]

The vast majority of real machines have a fairly basic explanation of SOME of the goals on the rules card. The expectation in an arcade is that you'll use that limited bit of info and figure out more by playing and sharing tips with other players. There's no machine in existence that gives you an in-depth breakdown like he showed for TOTAN. How familiar are YOU with pinball games?

[@IanJacobyandcompany]

@@brokenhalo22 extremely familiar. I'm just saying that it's sort of a weird criticism to have of a game that you can't understand the rules.

[@timma9027]

Flipper lag is a deal breaker. I was basically told to deal with it. I countered by asking how any serious online gamer would respond to 1/4-1/2 second shooting lag

[@EvrydayErik]

I’ve heard about this issue, it hasn’t bothered me, but I’m not that good. I had the nudge sensor go bad in mine and I have a replacement part someday I have to install. This machine is a cool idea, but it definitely needs an upgrade.

[@Woodwerker]

Holy huge bezels Batman!

[@EvrydayErik]

Lol, i’m thinking of several dad joke comebacks, but to be serious, the screen size and that bezel don’t bother me - Just that low resolution.

[@aronszamos229]

I have the Attack from Mars table and like most everyone else, can't play whitewater. Submitted a ticket to Arcade 1 Up and they responded by saying I should turn off ball trails. Never had them on or any of the animation extras. We need to keep the pressure on Arcade 1 up to stand behind this product and either fix the issue or give another table to replace white water.

[@EvrydayErik]

Thanks for reminding me, I need to make a ticket. I do have to say Arcade1up has been really good with customer support issues. It took them a little bit but I think they’re good now. I’m expecting a patch that’s going to improve the overall experience. I’m glad I have the table and it’s fun, But there’s always something to talk about. Cheers!

[@aronszamos229]

Also, does anyone else have issues with constant clicking noises on hurricane and whitewater ? Sounds like a roller coaster going up an incline. Definitely not normal sounding and likely a software issue as sometimes it goes away

[@ALJO1122]

How's the flipper lag? is it not to bad or is it terrible?

[@EvrydayErik]

I don’t have any issues with the flipper lag. I think the game plays well enough, I got to Mars and then screwed it up there. It just plays different than the real pinball machine. My only issues were the low resolution of the software. And my G sensor for the nudge stopped working correctly and I was sent a replacement. But I haven’t really replaced it yet because it’s involved. All that said, this does have a lot of replay value.

[@CardiacCat]

So the next level for video pinball would be a 3D playfield screen where you can wear passive 3D glasses to get the depth

[@EvrydayErik]

I wouldn’t want that. But the 720 resolution is really a setback for this. The software is in 1080 and it would behoove them to just project the proper resolution.

[@Terry-ms5ze]

Arcade 1up needs to make some upgrades to this version. I'd start with a clear 1080 playfield instead of 720. Upgrade to 32" instead of 24" display. Replace Roadshow with Funhouse and add Monster Bash.

[@EvrydayErik]

That’s it Terry! I think you just described my dream arcade1up virtual pinball machine! I still enjoy this one, but yeah there’s a lot of room for improvement.

[@literallyunderrated]

These vpins are relatively new and Im sure they’ll keep improving. Theres nothing like the real thing but for most people owning a real pin is just not practical- its expensive and if it breaks you better know how to fix it, if you can even find the parts. Plus you aren’t limited to just one game. I got the ALP and it is far from perfect but for the price I paid Im happy with it. This one has better games but its a little smaller than the atgames pinball. Again its not the real deal but its like 88% almost which is close enough for me

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, attack from Mars and medieval madness. Are some of my favorite pinball games. Period I just wish there was better resolution here. And the G sensor went bad on mine and I still have to replace it. Really interested in what Atgames is doing. Their new 4K pinball might be worth getting.

[@x-vector7245]

Over the last year I've been lucky enough to be able to play around 40 real tables every few months. This has taught me that digital pinball is definitely not the same as the real deal, but also that it has come a long way and has improved substantially over the years. The latest Visual Pinball recreations by the VPinball Workshop collective for example are seriously impressive (for proof, check out its rendition of Bad Cats or G5K's Attack from Mars). So I guess the ideal solution would be to build your own digital pinball cabinet (if you can) or buy one of the pre-built full-size versions. The problem with the latter is that these can be (almost) as expensive as the real ones, the prices of which have unfortunately skyrocketed over the past three years or so (Covid-19 related I guess). The original AfM now goes for $9,000 to $12,000 and the remakes by Chicago Gaming Company are offered for similar prices. MM original is around $14,000 and the remakes from $11,000 all the way to $20K for the Royal Edition. There's currently an ad on Pinside asking for $24,500 for an RE with some lighting and toy upgrades.

[@campkemp9466]

Yeah its not consistent...thats why it doesn't have near the same price tag as a real or real good vintage unit...do you know how much a repair or replacement part is on a real pin ball machine? If your lucky for parts and time its $300

[@EvrydayErik]

Oh yeah I couldn’t afford a real machine with the maintenance. I did play this one a lot. However, I’m getting the ghost nudges so I have a problem with the G sensor. I’m going through that process and started a ticket with Arcade1up. A lot of people are having that issue apparently. There is a lot of place value here, I just wish it had a little more polish and a higher resolution presentation. But we all know Arcade1up is going to come up with the improved version soon, and I’ll probably buy it.

[@petermacnab1871]

ArI the high scores that show on the backboard local and online ? The local leaderboards are more important to me . The display of the high scores looks cool 😎

[@EvrydayErik]

Those are local scores. There is no online scoring or online play. Arcade1up did give us an update that fixed the tables a couple years ago. I can’t remember how I got the update on the machine.

[@FallHammer2012]

Is there any Lag with the flippers?

[@EvrydayErik]

I haven’t downloaded the new patch yet. There might be the slightest of a lag, but I did get to Mars on the attack from Mars cabinet, so you probably get used to it. Again, this is probably a cute toy version of the tables you love.

[@Jellycakelap]

Yeah, the kind of haptic feedback for the flippers is going to make this machine less than a higher-end machine. (I own three 1Ups myself. And like the arcade versions.)

[@EvrydayErik]

There’s a Lotta good here, I just wish the game was presented in a higher resolution.

[@vilhelmstein2091]

Should I return mine? Its still fully boxed

[@EvrydayErik]

It is growing on me and I’m enjoying playing a medieval madness an attack from ours. Watch my video a few times and maybe sleep on it.

[@thanatos7301]

what are the materials? are they using wood?

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah it’s word. The main table with the screen comes pre-assembled and is pretty solid. You have to assemble the back screen area but it’s also solid. The legs are metal and work well. I have no issues with the construction.

[@krazejeff]

Addams family terminator 2 and banzai run would be my essential... Also maybe taxi and fun house

[@EvrydayErik]

That would be a very good collection of tables. I was surprised Funhouse wasn’t on here.

[@markc871]

Could a larger screen fit?

[@EvrydayErik]

Yes, people have put in a larger screen. I think they say the same problem that the graphics don’t get any better. Actually the screen size doesn’t bother me, I kind a like it. Just the resolution bugs me.

[@daviddeming1916]

So how are you liking it now thats it been over a month or so??

[@EvrydayErik]

That’s a good question, I do enjoy play ing this more than my other cabinets right now. I’m only playing attack from mars and medieval madness, but I do enjoy the challenge of trying to get onto the attack from Mars high score screen. I’m glad I have it, if version two has 1080 P resolution, I’ll probably upgrade.

[@daviddeming1916]

@@EvrydayErik thank you so much for responding....been on fence for weeks trying to decide on one these. U rock bro!!

[@FloydMaxwell]

Good, fair comments

[@EvrydayErik]

Thanks!

[@maman89]

The visual looks pretty drab, looks like the really cheaped out on the display or just didn't bother at all with the graphics. Such a same since the unit seems really well built.

[@EvrydayErik]

There is a lot of play value here. But the visuals suffer because they’re not in 1080 P, they’re in 720 which sucks. It’s hard to make out what’s going on on the table if you’re not familiar with the real machine. I also had problems with my G sensor, which provides the nudge affect. But they sent me a replacement part. This is a common issue apparently

[@IRgEEK]

Thanks for the info. Can I retool this to run Pinball Arcade or other? I honestly find Pinball Arcade to be far superior to Pin FX (before they lost their licensing that is and the project apparently has died). I think I might get one of these just for the hardware and hope I can retrofit the internals. If anyone on here has any experience with doing that, please do share. Thank you in advance!

[@EvrydayErik]

You probably can but you have to put your own CPU in. Also connecting all the physics sensors would be interesting. I haven’t come across anyone who has done that yet. I know some people have put in bigger screens. Sorry I can’t be more helpful.

[@IRgEEK]

@@EvrydayErik Thanks so much! Great post!

[@IRgEEK]

@@EvrydayErik Thank you kindly for your response. I really dug this, and your other posts and extra tips!

[@markmaisy4858]

I would highly recommend trying Pinball FX2 on the Oculus Quest 2, the depth of play field is incredible, true 3D! I have my own virtual table which I enjoy but have to say the VR experience is better.

[@EvrydayErik]

OK cool I never thought of that option. Do they have medieval madness or attack from Mars on oculus? Those are two of my favorite pinball tables and are basically the reason I bought this.

[@markmaisy4858]

@@EvrydayErik Hi, try this link shows all tables note it's PSVR but same tables. A much better resolution on Quest 2 without being tethered to a console kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYnQinuKqq2DfcU

[@jflash3451]

Williams games on zen pinball Apple Arcade are really good

[@EvrydayErik]

They are! They’re in 1080p i think. This looks too pixelated. I’m still happy in have it though. Could be better. Cheers!

[@aaronhouser3711]

All good points made and nothing like the real thing but this virtual table is a good intro into the hobby and a way to get some feel for different pinball tables affordably. To have the real thing at home would run you about $50,000 to have all these tables.

[@EvrydayErik]

When you put it that way, this is a great deal! People were saying in the comments that these games look better on PlayStation and their PC. That’s kind of disappointing, the games should have their full resolution here. I think that would go along way to selling the illusion of a Pinball Table.

[@wadeskelton7585]

Great review man I’d still like to get my hands on one of these if possible - I built one several years back & had some fun with it but it looked pretty ghetto and you couldn’t play a game without getting splinters or cut/pinched by my shoddy work 😄

[@EvrydayErik]

Hahaha, thanks, it sounds like you would still do better than me. I would love to build one too, but I know it would be a massive project and probably a failure. The more I play this one, it’s growing on me.

[@blakehudson951]

Ok so I have marvel and just got attack in the mail finally. I’m nit happy though. I knew white water had issues. But marvel plays so much smoother than this. Maybe I have a bad machine?? Anyone have both and notice this? The biggest issue is the display has noticeable vertical lines throughout the entire display. Probably around 100 vertical distorted lines. Has anyone else seen this issue or do I have a deductive display or PCB board?

[@EvrydayErik]

I have horizontal lines, but I think that’s from the plexiglass. I don’t see any vertical lines so you may have an issue after all. Everything on my machine plays pretty good except white water. Start a ticket with Arcade1up, sorry to hear you had a problem.

[@FlipLaScript]

Thanks for the honest review. I also dont get things for free. So I can stay honest.I made a temp table with a 1080p 32 inch tv, old desk that could fit a 32 inch in portait mode, then put some nice arcade Perpetuals. After this review, I think its best I hold on to my selfmade. Until a new iteration comes out that is worth the 550 to 600 price point. Thanks again for a real review. Ill just stick to buying more DLC off FX3 Pinball and feed it through my steam machine.

[@EvrydayErik]

Ya, I’d hold off until the inevitable version 2 comes out. I just really love some of these tables and the look of the build and had to pick it up. I am playing it and enjoying it, just wish the game was in 1080 and bug free. It should be for the price. Thanks for stopping by!

[@rogelioraiden8068]

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[@caidenkalel4649]

@Rogelio Raiden yea, have been using instaflixxer for years myself :)

[@brycecolton6515]

@Rogelio Raiden yup, I have been watching on instaflixxer for since november myself =)

[@holdenbarrett6621]

@Rogelio Raiden Yea, I've been using instaflixxer for months myself :D

[@joseserrano5676]

Good Video it's a good r cave Nice Erick

[@EvrydayErik]

Thank you, yeah it’s a good looking addition at least to the man cave.

[@rushmore3927]

Upgrade is relative. If using 720p and 24" display and low res art, how could it be a good experience?

[@EvrydayErik]

For sure, the art is a little too low rez for me. I need to use my imagination while I play.

[@philwilliams8328]

The various Arcade1up pinball machines are now going for close to $800. Totally NOT worth that exorbitant price for what they are! If by chance I could grab one for about $300 I might consider it.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, and we all know they’re gonna come out with a version two that’ll fix some of the issues on the Gen ones. I would hold off.

[@dannycanfield3038]

Debating this thing mostly for space reasons and affordability. Knowing that going in and that it obviously doesn't compare I think the video helps me decide I do want it. Just concerned about height since I'm tall.

[@EvrydayErik]

I am 6 foot, I have no problem with the height. You can stand in front of it no problem, but I’ve been using an A1up stool because I’m lazy. Despite my nitpicking, I am playing it and having fun.

[@dannycanfield3038]

@@EvrydayErik Awesome. And thanks for the review!

[@retroconsole_]

How come it didn't use the entire screen? that sucks

[@EvrydayErik]

It uses the whole screen but not the whole surface area. There’s a border around the screen that makes it sunken in a bit. Honestly I’m cool with that it’s just that the resolution is so bad there’s no depth to any of these tables.

[@cep2378]

The Mamushka is from the Addam's Family Table. Lol. Was it really in the Junkyard Table as well?

[@EvrydayErik]

I don’t hear the song on that table, do you?

[@cep2378]

@@EvrydayErik No, the song is not playing, but I saw the text pop up on the Marquis while you were playing Junkyard. I thought it was funny. At least, that is what I think I saw.

[@eduardot4665]

I used to own a real pinball machine (NBA Fastbreak) and of course its impossible to compare with a digital machine. BUT...real pinball VINTAGE machines - the ones with 20+ years - are hard to maintain. The playfield is filled with little dents and marks that affects the game, theres always broken or loose cosmetic pieces that are almost impossible to find (or really expensive), and you need a good technician to go to your place every 6 months to make a check up. Theres the termites (big problem on any old wood cabinet) and the last HUGE problem: need to move the machine to a new place? Better call 4 friends! These old machines weights almost 400lbs and WILL BREAK! So i really dig these digital ones, but lets wait for the second generation. 1080p is a must!

[@EvrydayErik]

Great table. Yeah, there’s nothing like a real pinball machine. But they’re far from perfect and not well-suited for my place. It should be an easy upgrade for Arcade1up, just give me a better screen resolution. I liked everything else.

[@kevinmach730]

Not to mention the cost. It's interesting that I see old video games for as little as $300, but it's tough to find anything under 2k for even vintage machines. And for something that is actually considered somewhat desirable, you can easily double that figure as an entry level price. If you're just looking for a little fun in your basement or garage, these things are worth a look. Hell, the last vacation we took to Gattlinburg for 5 days cost us $3500, I would have had way more fun with one of these tables for 800 bucks.

[@aaronroberts6787]

He reminds me of John Cougar Mellencamp.

[@EvrydayErik]

😎👍 I was born in a small town

[@gevorklalayan1311]

I wana get one of the Chicago gaming remakes

[@EvrydayErik]

That would be awesome! 😎👍

[@harryl6175]

Me too lol but 6k gonna have to start saving

[@mgpmbass3616]

A KISS pinball machine would be cool. But I'm sure A1U would have to pay Gene and Paul more money than it'd be worth lol.

[@EvrydayErik]

Hahaha! Oh yeah, that would be the most difficult IP to get a hold of. Gene would want a lot of money for sure. I would probably pay it. I was lucky enough to be front room for a kiss concert and Gene took care of my friends and I. We got tons of pics and got the guitar at the end, so I’m a big Gene fan.

[@mgpmbass3616]

@@EvrydayErik Nice! I never got to meet them, but I've seen them twice with Ace and Peter and once with Tommy and Eric and I scored one of the G.S. Axe basses a few years ago that was painted by the guy that painted Gene's personal basses. It was painted in the Destroyer Boot theme aka the Silver Dragon.

[@NeuralX000]

1 up customer service non existence star wars broke attack from mars delivery on my porch yesterday I refused delivery!

[@EvrydayErik]

Oh man, what broke on your Star Wars? The G sensor for the nudge stopped working on my attack from Mars. I was getting false nudges. They did send me a replacement part, but it’s a real bitch to put in there. It’s going to be an all day project some day.

[@NeuralX000]

@EvrydayErik I think it's the primary circuit board ,I have a steady red light no other lights.

[@Darwinion]

This is 2021. 720p resolution is totally unacceptable! The cabinet build itself and the artwork looks pretty good, I'll give it that. But it needs the guts ripping out and upgrading to a VPX system. And $600 is too expensive to do that. Might as well build your own. Which I did for less than £1000 for a 4K playfield and many toys including beacons, RGB flashers, strobes, fan, LED feedback, SSF. This thing is a joke for $600. I was never a pinball fan, either arcade or video. But with a decent PC and VPX I'm hooked. It really is pretty damn good and blows that thing out of the water.

[@EvrydayErik]

I love to learn more about how to build my own. Do you have any suggestions?

[@Darwinion]

@@EvrydayErik Just download VPX (it's all free). Latest version is 10.6 but people are now using 10.7 beta as it's close to being released and very stable. Then search KZbin for installation advice. The BallerInstaller has just been released so for new people that's makes it a hella lot easier as it does everything in one go. I would advise just installing on desktop for a while first and get used to how it all works... adding tables etc. and learning where all the files go. Then when comfortable progess to putting a dedicated PC in a cabinet. This time last year I knew nothing about VPX. Started building my cabinet in July and had it done in August. I will warn you there is a LOT to learn. It is not plug and play like that thing you have. But it's not difficult and the results are far, far better.

[@theoldronin]

I just picked one of these up and I'm pretty happy with it. It's about what I expected though. I love the arcade, I've ran arcades, I grew up in arcades, but I'd never want real arcade machines in my house unless I had unlimited money and space. That's why I've enjoyed the Arcade1Up stuff, even though they company has a lot of faults, their products still scratch the right itch. Seems like the pinball machines were an interesting experiment for them, but I'm not sure if they'll continue with it. Seems like they can hardly keep up with what they've got going on now.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, I think you nailed it. These things do scratch that itch. I love having my little arcade area. I know I’m overpaying, but I also like how these things look, the size is perfect. My son is starting to appreciate them, he loves the Star Wars cabinet.

[@steviegbcool]

but whats better for the price?

[@EvrydayErik]

I wish the Atgames pinball had these games on it, but it doesn’t. I got this for around 600 which is fair. I would’ve paid more money if they just would’ve gave me the 1080 P version of these games so they look like they do on an iPad.

[@CostanzaWorld]

The one dimensional display was kind of surprising to see. Other versions of the Zen pinball tables on PS4, Xbox etc are all in 3D. Even the Nintendo 3DXL tables are all in 3D. Then it just occurred to me that Arcade 1Up are probably using a low spec processor that will only support a one dimensional implementation of the tables. If all of the tables were displayed in 3D, this would be a very cool virtual pinball table.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, that’s really my only complaint is the graphics need to be better to create that faux depth. I like the screen size in the controls.

[@Darwinion]

It's not even PC based. It's android based. Hence, crap.

[@kiwisoup]

The graphics are rendered in 3D though, it's just a static viewpoint.

[@molarmedic]

cant even get one. no one has them Best Buy keeps getting sold out

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah I put my initial order through Best Buy when they first went online. I guess I got lucky. I don’t regret buying it, it could just be better.

[@alexandrefernandes843]

most honest and down to earth review i've seen of this machine, thanks

[@EvrydayErik]

Hey, thanks. That was my intention. I don’t really care if Arcade1up is happy with me.

[@jodyjohnson265]

It looks like it runs off of the pinball fx3 program that you would get on the consoles and pc.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yes, I think it’s that, but this is in 720 P instead of 1080 P. I wish it would look like it does on the PC.

[@jodyjohnson265]

@@EvrydayErik I would prefer playing the Williams pinball collection on pinball fx3 then the arcade 1up version.

[@dougjohnson441]

Get the ATgames pinball and get a decent computer and play ATM on that device, clear as a bell.... can read even the smallest print clearly

[@EvrydayErik]

I was thinking about that. Can you also find/download the back screen to go with the main playing field when you do that?

[@wiesshund-games]

@@EvrydayErik Can not do video responses any more These are not terribly high quality videos, just quick demos of things i am or was building all be be played on a self build or purchased vpin cabinet. These are running in the visual pinballX engine kzbin.info/www/bejne/p52nZpt9YrKco68 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3jEf3tqqa6llZI kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmSYkGurnJuEgdE None of these are great resolution videos nor are they good game play vids, plus they are of things i am or was making, and i dont claim to be the best designer Check out the world of VPX channel for better videos kzbin.info/door/AWH0DTLwUrDzvHbAglV1pg And no, you dont have to spend $7000 to get a cabinet, many people have made one for less than the 1up cost you

[@propwash6880]

Gut that thing and install a pc the add surround sound feedback and you will change your thoughts on virtual pinball.

[@EvrydayErik]

I would love to. Can I find attack from Mars somewhere online, but also find the software for the back screen and sync them? I’d be all into that.

[@propwash6880]

@@EvrydayErik Yes, I suggest you start looking at the pinup popper baller installer and learn how to use VPX. It does it all and most of the tables and roms are available online. Best thing is the tables on VPX on that same little 1up screen utilize more of the real estate and seem bigger. They made their tables too tiny in the stock games. Especially in my Marvel cabinet. Totally different thing. Sites to look at: VPForums, VPuniverse and discord sites associated with Popper. It' a lot to take in, trust me. Take your time, maybe install the pinball software on a desktop you have beofre hooking it up to your cabinet. You'll need some hardware too, like an HDMI converter, and a usb encoder or two. Cooltoy has recommendations for hardware. I used a button instead of a plunger and it makes it much easier to sort out as well.

[@tashabarber3420]

where can i find 1of thoseee lol

[@EvrydayErik]

I think they are temporarily sold out, but they will be back for the holiday season. There will probably be a version 2 that’s better. Goodluck!

[@randallkipker9990]

Great honest review... but really for 600 bucks what did you expect. I mean that generally what would anyone expect? A good monitor is more than 600 bucks!

[@EvrydayErik]

I think the monitor is 1080, it’s just that the game is done and 720 to compensate for the CPU. I’d gladly buy an upgraded CPU to give me a 1080 game.

[@randallkipker9990]

@@EvrydayErik Yeah I get that, it's because the computer running it can not run the game at an acceptable FPS so they lower the resolution. I also think for folks with limited space and a small budget, this is a cool out. it has 10 games in the top 100 pins currently and three of the top 10 IMHO. I do not own any 1up games... think they are all weak. I do have a Vpin plus 15 real pins. Led Z is my latest... it's amazing to own if you're a guy who grew up during the A$$ Beating Era! Again... thanks for the review.

[@johnwolfensberger6836]

Great review but you are trying to compare a 10k pinball machine with a video game. I think for what they are trying to do, they do an ok job of it.

[@EvrydayErik]

Thanks, I understand there’s nothing like a real pinball machine. My main complaint is really the resolution of the games. People say these games look great on the PC. So I think a little more horsepower here would sell the illusion.

[@michaelgale1238]

YEAH, HE SAID THE PHYSICAL CELLUNOID SHOULDA BEEN BETTER FEELING I GUESS???

[@EvrydayErik]

It’s there, but it’s very light, it’s OK.

[@805edog]

Yep got mine Saturday and sold it today for 750. I also play real pinball weekly at my local bar. This arcade 1up AFM plays horrible in comparison. Slight flipper lag was annoying and most screen were way too washed out. Good review I completely agree.

[@EvrydayErik]

Yeah, if you play the real thing, going to this is a big shock. The actual machine looks good for the most part. Oh I’m probably going to keep it because it looks cool in my little arcade and I am playing it. But it’s not gonna keep me away from the real arcade. Thanks for checking out the video!

[@docsavage4921]

Well, if you're talking an actual physical table, that would be hard to download. 😁 But I'll admit to trying a video pin or two. How else are you gonna try Baby Pac-Man these days? But my FX3 Steam library (And 1990's CD's) show I pay for what I can, when I can.

[@EvrydayErik]

I like the old Doc Savage books, btw. This machine is cute and I do probably play it more than my other cabinets. My G sensor went bad and I just got a replacement. There’s room for upgrades here and I’m sure they’re gonna offer a deluxe version for more money. I don’t have any buyers remorse.