Honest Tea Talk Polygamy Episode Reaction pt 2/3

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In this video, Coaches Nyla, Nazir, & Fatimah who have practiced polygyny over 12 years and helped 10s of thousands of people; discuss what they see in this popular episode from the Honest Tea Talk series.
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Coach Nazir & Fatimah were married for 15 years and had 6 children when he chose to practice polygyny. He married Coach Nyla, and our polygynous journey began.
Since then, 4 more children have been born, 1 by Coach Fatimah and 3 with Coach Nyla who has added 2 bonus children (step-children) to the family making a total of 12 children.
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[@khayriyyaamatullah7186]

I am a Co wife and only just come across your material... which I find invaluable subahan Allah... you are all a great example to us who are practising what Allah has made permissible...

[@ZEFAMAN]

spelling: which I find valuable...😊

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

invaluable /ɪnˈvaljʊ(ə)b(ə)l/ adjective extremely useful; indispensable. "an invaluable source of information"

[@ZEFAMAN]

@@outstandingpersonalrelationshi noted

[@khayriyyaamatullah7186]

I am a post graduate academic. I love words with meaning. Subhan Allah💯🧕🏾🇬🇧

[@khayriyyaamatullah7186]

Prophet Muhammad saws said what he meant and meant what he said.. saws

[@zara1559]

I've been quite open to the idea of polygyny, perhaps even inclined to it. However, this episode, plus some sisters in my life, have successfully convinced me otherwise, Subhan'Allah. So I closed my mind off to that for a while. But, recently, I have been thinking about my stance again. Your videos are so insightful, masha'Allah.

[@Hayya45]

Salaams I’ve watched some of these tea talks in the past, and the women I think were very real about their feelings on polygyny ect. It’s okay for them to tell our truth even if poly families don’t like it. It is a more difficult way of life but Alhamdulilah it can also have benefits. I know plenty of sisters who were made to feel their feelings needed to be suppressed because of the permissibility of polygyny. That’s unfair and emotional abuse to the wife. She can be a wonderful Muslim and not desire to stay in a poly marriage. That’s okay. Or she can choose to stay and work through things, either way is hard. I think these sisters are just giving their truth, where others may sugarcoat what is initially a very hurtful experience.

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

Wa salaams, We agree that people have a right to feel feelings however our reaction is not about that whatsoever. There were many problems in their episode besides not being objective or actually dealing with how it can be done. To think it's okay to equate polygyny with cheating, being repeatedly dismissive of scholars and Islamic scholarship which is made of up thousands of women scholars by the way, insulting incoming wives by claiming they have low standards, blaming others for personal bad behavior, terming something spiritual abuse simply because it exists, etc... is far beyond discussing personal feelings and needed to be addressed. If we as Muslims don't hold each other accountable and remind each other to fear Allah first, who will?

[@allykhan8594]

Assalaam mu Alaikum to my brother and hus 2 wives. Alhamdulillah, you are such a fine group of believers marshAllah. lot to learn from!

[@sinnari-7329]

So excited to see the reaction

[@livefromplanetearth]

counter testimony from your clients sounds like the move 🙏🏾

[@MoSiddeek]

We'd love to hear testimonies from your clients to combat this kind of narrative, and share success stories.

[@MariamZawjatNomayri]

Thank you for sharing some tips and advice

[@RealityistheBook]

The Most High bows best for us all. In every situation we find ourselves in is for the betterment of ourselves and to bring us closer to him. Shalom

[@ebonyqueen269]

I taught it was coach Nazir I had to look out for .. but its Coach Fatimah I was suppose to keep my eye on- boo boo..loll.. I see you Queen Nylah they done gone and tick you off too.. I just love yall💙🧡💛

[@MariamZawjatNomayri]

Thank you for sharing

[@malikwright4402]

Amazing video

[@bintjamiel2873]

Subhana’Allah I watched this episode years back and with my lack of knowledge I didn’t see the wrong info that was being fed to me but Subhana’Allah now I SEE the wrong language used and worst was disrespecting the scholars insinuating that they don’t actually understand the situation lahaula wa lakuwata illa billah (May Allah forgive us) I respect their love to help but wallahi we need to seek knowledge before we become public speakers as those words will either be an evidence FOR us or AGAINST us, as we all know 2things will drive us to jahannam 1 of them being OUR MOUTH/TONGUES.

[@sakinahkennedy107]

subhanAllah I watched this I was uncomfortable because I only heard the negative and didn't give some positive information on polygny May Allah make us better . remember this is social media and people are watching

[@MariamZawjatNomayri]

May Allah the Almighty forgive all our mistakes and keep us away from ignorance. Ameen

[@Polydea]

amazing conversation, we must respect and embrace the differences of man and woman. I don't expect any future wife to see me (a man) as a nurturing mother figure lol, I guess common sense isn't always common.

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

these nisa have been lost by feminism and these ideas came in due to bida, we need to embrace the sunnah as both individuals that prep us to embrace it as couples and take right safety net but that doesn't mean don't invest in the nikah either... men are leaders as nisa over generalize but they are detailed helpers.

[@Single4ever4lovesake]

Islam is fair that doesn't mean humans deal fairly in it.

[@aspiringrootwoman24]

How could monogamy be a new thing when all marriages begin as monogamous and most men could not afford multiple wives, hence polygyny being the privilege of men who have means... I've learned quite a bit from your channel and experiences shared but I think the tea talk sisters are also coming from another perspective and speaking up for women who are being broken without compassion. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

1. All marriages don't begin as monogamous. Ex: the marriage of Aisha (ra) didn't start as monogamous. Men's first marriage always start as monogamous but it's not necessarily the same for women. It's not about most men practicing it, the Earth hasn't ever has 2 or 3 times as many women as men. 2. Monogamy being the norm and default while polygyny being considered taboo and the on the fringes is relatively new. For facts, see the book by Dr. Nancy Cott 'Pubic Vows' for the historical record. The sisters are coming from another perspective which contradicts what they said the show would be about and that is the problem. The intro said one thing while the meat of the show was completely different which makes things misleading.

[@amandawilson1024]

May I ask? Do you feel a woman is in an equal position of her spouse cheats, and does she deserve to know it is a marriage and not casual sex covered up later with a piece of paper? She specifically, SPECIFICALLY, compared when a woman cheats and when a man cheats. She says: if a woman stepped out on her marriage, the visciousness.... in a man's position, if he gets a paper from a mosque, it's fine. This clearly, CLEARLY, is a discussion of inequality IF A MAN CHEATS. Extramarital sex. If he does cheat, one-night stand, sins: then if he gets a piece of paper society says its fine. Not Allah but society. Her point is how women are vulnerable without these outs, yet men are less vulnerable because they have an out IF cheating happens. I feel the glossing over this important distinction, even you yourselves referring to her discussion of cheating as if that is already marriage, speaks volumes. I ask again, do you believe a woman is in an equal position when there is infidelity, do you believe she should be able to be assured it was not infidelity later turned into marriage?

[@amandawilson1024]

The inequality is really specific to when the woman is not told ahead of time of the marriage. Hard questions.

[@Me4003]

Exactly it’s really sad to see how women are being put through emotional blackmail regarding polygamy. I agree that it works for some people but it’s kind of unfair that women who find it hard to accept are constantly judged and told that they are disobeying Allah. If polygamy was a must then yes it would be disobedience but it’s an option and this is because Allah knows that human beings handle situations differently. Also I was disappointed with the fact that it was made out to seem like a man doesn’t need to understand his wife’s feelings when she hurting and finding it hard to accept. No offense meant to anyone but I don’t think the women were misleading people they were just saying their own experiences and if you Watch their video completely they also talked about the fact that they have seen polygamy been done right. Allah is all knowing and knows who truly worships him live and let other live May Allah guide us all.

[@y03n03s]

Wait, around 4:20 you say: when someone steps out of their marriage,..., the penalty is death. What am i missing, cause stepping out of your marriage is divorce, no? Or were the ladies saying something else?

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

No I referenced the religious penalty for such a thing if the people were living under an Islamic state that existed in the past. Similar to the Bible's penalty, the religious penalty for adultery is stoning. To be clear, that punishment is not something a husband or wife or individual can take into their own hand so isn't done today. It's a very major sin/crime in religious terms and there is also a major penalty for the person who wrongfully accuses someone of adultery.

[@RyuFan1999]

Salaam Coach Nazir, what was the name of the book you recommended? Something "public" I think I heard

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

Wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmatullah Public Vows by Dr. Nancy Cott

[@RyuFan1999]

@@outstandingpersonalrelationshi May Allah SWT bless you

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

Asalam ALeik, there is some hadith that denounce music except duff, some on holidays, kindly consider looking into this, if I can find the hadith I can post it!

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

Wa alaykum as salaam, we are aware and also note this comment is unrelated to the video.

[@Stephanie-rf2qp]

how is it not cheating if your husband goes behind your back to marry another woman and then keeps it a secret for months or years? genuinely wondering because i see it as cheating. it’s especially bad because that means your husband is now lying to you for months and possibly gaslighting as well. how is that ok? do you have videos to explain these things

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

What part of this video are you referecing?

[@MaryamShamsWayMaryamShams]

assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh my brother and my beautiful sisters, my Queens thank you for this conversation to teach non-Muslims this kind they share with the public It makes Muslim look bad they not going to say that they going to say, poor Muslim women, they are lucky to be in America they have freedom Makes us look like a victim at least this with among the Muslim community

[@khayriyyaamatullah7186]

Please would you explore privacy within the marriages in polygyny. Or please would you signpost me to where I can find your content if you have explored this topic already. JzAk 💯🧕🏾🇬🇧

[@sakinahkennedy107]

No that I'm watching again it's the bashing for me it would make someone who was interested in polygny they watched this they would move away I'm in polygny I go through my things but to bash it NO GOOD watch what we say.people May Allah guide our words to better.As Salamualaikum waramatulahi wabarakatuhu outstanding coaches🌹🌹🌹

[@thepolychronicles6854]

Alhamdulillah ! May Allah swt reward you and your family for taking the time out to address this video full of negativity and what appears to be dissatisfaction in what Allah swt has made permissible for a reason. Ameen 🤲🏽 ! Maybe going back to the days when many cultures killed off the excess female children would be a better option for some of these sisters who don’t want to do the necessary emotional work on themselves as they clearly state men have to do. (Which I totally agree the men must do to be successful). Or maybe the majority of women being born and never getting a chance to experience love,motherhood or a husband & family due to the shortage of men would suffice for some. This is a classic example of why it is important to study and practice because without the proper knowledge and understanding it would be easy to mislead others whether intentional or not. May Allah swt guide those who question what has been revealed to our prophet Muhammad SAW to better understanding. Ameen 🤲🏽

[@namukwayahanifa6595]

The prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi wasallam said,"I was sent for the fulfillment of the best image of good character" so in my opinion non of us will assume they understand this topic best and condemn others for it's a clear struggle for every soul to peacefully dive into it,not letting eachother behind,executing polygamy has so much to do with the level of faith in our Lord,which can't be the same w

[@namukwayahanifa6595]

some of us will score highly for not hating what Allah decrees,and the list will continue according to your score.Prayers shouldn't stop,because for Iblis this is one of the most catching grounds.It's a field of portrayal of good character for all of us, if JANNA MOST IMPORTANT,emulate Muhammad Sallallahu alyhi wasallam,and his companions,because these topics weren't an exception in "their" lives.The strong willed as well as the striving ones existed then,Allah strengthens when you pray and become steadfast while wishing others well,Coaches Fatima and Nyla,thanks for showing each other smiles,this counts My Allah strengthen your husband in faith and grant you all JANNA,Pray for us we too would like to meet you there,Assalam Alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakaatuhu.PEACE.

[@aaliyahali3785]

Where's part 3?

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

Coming today

[@abdiaismail2449]

I love how these ladies Express their views...coz yu can hardly find the men that follow our beloved prophet saw.they are touching the reality points..nd need to be respected aswel

[@mahtazdin]

Good talk

[@HaseebKhan-on5zk]

I have been thinking a lot about polygamy, and believe one of the wisdoms behind it is that if Allah SWT grants a man power, glory and honor all the women will tempt him (try to seduce him), getting married multiple times stops that temptation and allows one to keep caring for their wives. Imagine your a man who all the women want and you can have any women. You may resist the temptation of the first women then the second, but after a year of this you may begin to slacken in your resolve and commit zina. When a man marries again there is nothing wrong with the women he is currently married to, its just in the nature of man to seek women and when certain conditions are met a man will either marry again, commit zina or resist (the last option is not advisable, how often can we trust ourselves).

[@Abz637]

I know a few poly families, they have caused a lot of trauma for the children 1 father kept it a secret and the child lost all respect for dad. Also felt ur views on this was not clip was not fair as u are trying to pin trauma on childhood issues and not purely poly, women are created to be nurturing and feeling pain for everyone but here asked to put that aside. Although ur wives are sitting their they are quiet and nodding would love to hear how first wife felt in the clip to breakdown her view

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

This reaction vid was done in 3 parts, watching a clip won't give you the full picture. However, we do feel adults should be mature enough to address any situation in a graceful and honest manner unless they lack mental capacity. And no, it doesn't make sense to blame something 'purely on poly' as you put it because poly is simply a form of marriage. How does that look when you say that the problem is marriage! Immature, childish, and placing blame on the institution of marriage is simply ridiculous.

[@sbstudent321]

Rasul Allah (PBUH) was the perfection of Islam. There are no men who could fully meet his example. So, it is often unfair to say well Muhammad (PBUH) did it, so I can do it too. The Holy Prophet prayed constantly and fasted much more often then most, also was much more charitable then most. However, most men including most polygamous men are not striving to meet those examples. Why is it so unforgivable for women to give real incite on how they feel or what they have witnessed other women in polygamous situations. Polygyny is not always the best for Muslim families.

[@aishalazrak3864]

Asalamu Alaikum, All Muslims should strive to be like the Prophet SAWS, Women too, to strive to be like The prophet SAWS Wives. We are not perfect, but who are we to question what Allah Ta’ala has made permissible and what he has not made permissible. It’s a question of how big our ego is, how sincere we are, we must remind ourselves that we are nothing but slaves of Allah Ta’ala and humble ourselves. No one said it is Unforgivable for a women to express her feelings, we women are built on emotions, it’s how Allah has made us. But we should learn to contain whatever feelings we may have, Anger, or jealously and to speak sensibly Like the Sisters and Brother said in the video everyone has a part to play. It’s simple to be honest, we must obey Allah and his rulings, he has made this permissible for man, accept it and that’s it. No one is saying it’ll be easy, but getting to Jannah is not easy. It’s just a matter of how humble we are. Allah Ta’ala says in Surah Baqarah Ayah 216 “But perhaps you may hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah knows, while you know not.” This Ayah in general meaning tells us that there may be times that there is something we go after as beneficial but turns out to be harmful, or we avoid something as harmful which later turns out to be beneficial. SubhanAllah

[@aishalazrak3864]

Allah knows best. May Allah guide us all.

[@sbstudent321]

@@aishalazrak3864 Thank you. Not all men are suited for polygyny, and some wives know this. As indicated in Quran: Surah Nisa 4:3 If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. Allah Ta’Ala knows each persons’ capacity and we hope that each of us understand and makes decisions based on our best attributes and understanding our limitations. This is why I am puzzled when people are surprised when some women indcate, based on their experiences with their partner, they feel polygyny is not suited for their family. Spouses have had time to learn one another’s abilities. Also, I know from my time in Europe and the US that many polygamous men leave the financial responsibility for the families on the shoulders of the women or social services.

[@Jahannam..or..Jannah]

Pushing for polygamy marriages on uk England government welfare system HAHAHA

[@Mohmed-kw4iz]

Alhamdulilah i. Am muslim ☪️ ❤️ ♥️ 😍 ... i am single alhamdulilah. Inshallh ..😢😢😢

[@ZEFAMAN]

Baarakallaah fiikum! I have been waiting for this reaction. These three ladies are brainwashing their fellows. They are pressing their emotions before reasoning. May Allaah guide them to the straight path.

[@sakinahkennedy107]

I agree with you I was bothered by this I watched this last summer

[@freeonlinemadrasah]

@@sakinahkennedy107 those women don't know what they are saying. They should truly learn the biographies of the wives of the Messenger ﷺ and his companions.

[@Jahannam..or..Jannah]

They work for a charity, were Muslim sisters get abused and these sisters help them, so who you lot judgement to yourself!.

[@freeonlinemadrasah]

@@Jahannam..or..Jannah Islam is not based on emotions.

[@Jahannam..or..Jannah]

@@freeonlinemadrasah Islam is based on oppressing women!

[@deedeee6271]

18:06 - Sorry, it's really convenient to say that men treating women badly is really her fault because of her 'bad choices'. So it's her fault. Everyone will be held accountable for what they do, we are not accountable for others.

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

Interesting you would twist what I said in such a fashion to fit your narrative. To my point, when women complain that their husbands aren't qualified to practice polygyny and begin to list a plethora of shortcomings, what does that say of her marital choice? Does it say other than she married someone who is little more than a boy? And yes you are correct, everyone will be held accountable for their actions and nobody can carry the burden of another's.

[@deedeee6271]

@@outstandingpersonalrelationshi I think all women do the best they can in choosing a spouse. That still doesn't excuse or justify his behavior. Some women aren't aware or don't discuss polygyny beforehand. Also, I don't think there is anything wrong with a man working on himself and healing shortcomings not only in himself or his marriage before considering polygyny, which actually may be a driving force why a man is considering it.

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

Ah ok I see, you're one of those 'women can do no wrong' types. I don't do broad "all men or all women" generalizations because it's foolish. Both men AND women can and do do wrong and need to work on themselves, despite what you may think. Peace.

[@MariamZawjatNomayri]

📖 Abu Huraira RadhiAllahu 'anhu narrated: Allah's noble Messenger Muhammad SallAllahu 'alaihi wa sallam said, "If a woman prays her five prayers, fasts her month of Ramadan, guards her chastity, and obeys her husband, she will enter Paradise from any gate she wishes." Source: Sahih Ibn Hibbān 4252 Grade: Sahih (Authentic) according to Al-Albani 📖 Abdullah Ibn Amr RadhiAllahu 'anhu narrated: Allah's noble Messenger Muhammad SallAllahu 'alaihi wa sallam said, "The world is enjoyment and the best enjoyment in the world is a righteous wife." Source: Sahih Muslim 1467 Grade: Sahih (Authentic) according to Muslim

[@khayriyyaamatullah7186]

Subhan Allah so true💯🧕🏾🇬🇧

[@thisisarika]

One part that didn't sit well - Around 25-26 mins where you guys discussed about how we can't expect a man to hold his wife's hand and cry with her etc - I don't agree with that, emotionally available men are the important asset we need in society right now. I don't think that's "acting like a woman or mother" only. This was something very sad to hear from a Muslim man. Despite what was explained later by the sister, it just really struck. Just wanted to share my thoughts, I do respect you and your family and the idea of polygamy even though it's definitely not for me - so please don't mind!

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

We were discussing the traditional nature of men and how men express emotions versus what a woman may desire. We are unable to point to one situation where a straight man did that in our entire lives, relatives or otherwise. That was the distinction we were attempting to make.

[@BlueBlue23]

And that has nothing to do with polygyny...any man married to one single lady might think like that already

[@moeissa2341]

men dont process emotions the way women do, so no we aren't going to hold your hand and cry. we'll let you feel what you feel and thats about it

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

no Summaya the dishoensty and spiritual batil is you saying polygyny and znah is the same or normalizing it in culture... just like a man telling the nisa to pay mahr like in hinduism is batil. brother saw it as an comparison to znah like i did right away, even the sister said i had to check non Muslims on it but for you to do it and you Muslims to mislead and say its znah which has a sharia reaction, Awuthubillah... polyandry was done by the native indians Men breaking it down is having back men & nisa think different. These nisa might have mom feminist issues. 10 :00 - layinka she says if you can't be mature telling them and dealling with reaction don't do polygyny. Yes you do have to increase in maturity and leadership and gathering your own emotions to the big picture to make it healthy for emotions to come by... she is saying its ok to grl to be handled... i saw another reaction but hearing this a 2nd time now tea talker says men don't hold space for the nisa even in monogamy, w/e that means, so now it seems like just an attack on brothers. very jahl this Aliya, the Prophet peace and blessings be upon him did harb and came back and did nikah... is that to deceive, bring it up yes in general but there are fiqh issues to say its not an act where you deceive. 20 :30 - Nazir says Polygyny was accepted in those times where monogamy when in reality znah is the norm. nancy cot public viles? disney princess syndrome... monogomy is alien. sister is telling the tea talk everyone has to do personal development, not just the men. Aliya says this is just my opinion, alot of men do this thnking sister just settles... we need facts along with opinions. sister fatima says different ppl show emotions differently so don't down. Nyla says growing is with sincerity, its not settling... --- even if they say polygyny as a stat has this or that issue, monogamy as a stat has issues to, and then znah is pushed as well... i hope my notes werent too all over... From a brother in Islam.

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

No your points were succinct and well stated, jazakAllahu khayr akhee.

[@knucklehead4787]

Honestly... I would like to thank you clearing the air on this. Muslim umma really need some education on polygamy as it has been heavily painted in dark colors. This will effect the kids and parents.

[@abdiaismail2449]

I like the example of the turkey the ladies made.Allah is most merciful.. .nd Allah knows wat is in the hearts of men

[@humuhamid3210]

Oh my God death penalty u say 😳 .. subhaanallaah where does it say in the Quran or hadith to kill a person who walk out on their marriage? U guys are scaring the heck out of people

[@outstandingpersonalrelationshi]

Perhaps your comprehension is off regarding the term used? You said, "walk out on their marriage". Walking out on their marriage in American English means to abandon their marriage, that is not what we discussed. We responded to the statement of "stepping out on the marriage" which means that a spouse committed zina (adultery), hence the penalty for zina by a spouse in Islam and even Hebrew law is stoning.

[@shiningpeaks]

Do people really believe all this

[@hamadou7777777777]

This sisters need to repent to Allah, and do a public apologies, May Allah guide us to the Truth…Aameen thouma Aameen