7 Guns Not Worth The Money

[@ThisHandleIsTaken1]

Had dinner with Paul Harrell just a couple weeks before he passed. He was in Lincoln City, OR, and I had reached out on one of his videos and offered up my family’s condo. He invited my wife and I to have dinner with him. Ended up sharing a meal with him and Roy, and it was a surreal experience, one I will never forget. True legend. After he passed, some of his gun collection was put up for auction, and I was able to purchase his Ruger Bearcat. It now sits proudly on display in my gun room. A revolver I will never sell, to remind me of an experience I will never forget. RIP Paul . . .

[@heatheruntz5315]

That's awesome dude! I bet Paul would be happy to know that you have his pistol!

[@ThisHandleIsTaken1]

@ Thanks- it was a surreal experience! I dont think I can post a link to a Reddit post on youtube, but if you do a search in r/guns for ‘Paul Harrells revolver from his estate’ or my username ‘Bot McBotterson” my post about it should come up, including a photo of the Bearcat with Pop Tarts, and some more detail in the comments about meeting him, and winning the auction . . .

[@ArtistryBranson]

Oh, wow. Thanks for sharing that. Truly

[@Hawk-ODA212]

That's so awesome. Glad you were able to do that.

[@Dee_Snutz69]

You got an irl mythical item

[@_Mr.Mayhem_]

Chapters 7- @1:20 M&p .22 magnum 6- @3:22 Beretta 80x cheetah 5- @4:41 Souped up lever guns 4- @7:01 Tommy built G36/ T36 3- @8:05 Cheap DS 1911/2011 2- @9:19 ALL Bullpups 1- @ 12:05 AR15 over $2k Stay strapped or get clapped 👊🏾

[@williamthissen756]

Thanks for the chapter breakdown.

[@scotimotti]

Thanks for saving me 15 minutes

[@i_fuck_the_dead]

Thanx bro! 😘😘😘

[@capatheist]

@@scotimottiyou’re weird… You wanted to know what his list was But you didn’t want to watch or hear his opinion?

[@robertbruecks5417]

​@@capatheistyup.

[@stever5731]

I'm glad he didn't mention my tactical flintlock musket tricked out with a 3x scope and red dot. I keep it next to my tactical lever gun.

[@lbwlawyer]

@@stever5731 I would pay real money to see something like that.

[@stever5731]

@lbwlawyer wait until I show everyone my semi automatic Bowie knife 🔪 with the flashlight 🔦 attachment.

[@theknowbot5000]

It's probably going to be the only thing New York will let you own in the future 😂

[@johnc5874]

You'll be top dog should all the cased ammo dissappear.

[@cjmoore7240]

LMAO! KEEP ON ROCKING!

[@samuraiblack9038]

A $2-3K lever action is insane. I paid $900 and I’m more than happy with it.

[@davidjernigan8161]

My lever gun was about 2k, but it's a 500 magnum

[@SaraphDarklaw]

I paid $900 for mine.

[@bozscaggzz7475]

@@samuraiblack9038 I paid 125 for a slightly use Marlin 336 10 years ago. Took my first deer with it at 100 yards. That's a deal.

[@TheApacheTrail]

Lol payed

[@YacolJ]

$450 for my Mossberg 464 Spx in 2012.

[@docgillygun9531]

This is another priceless piece by The Honest Outlaw. For those who are just starting to get into guns, or don't want or have the money to experiment, pay a lot, or are trying to make do with only one firearm this list really helps people avoid some potential pitfalls.

[@BjCmeadows]

I grew up in, and still live in Oregon.. can confirm that we don't even feel or see rain anymore. I only notice not being damp when I'm on fire. Edit: RIP our State Spirit Animal Paul Harrell

[@thegroundhurts]

Go outside. I spent all last week soaked hunting.

[@BjCmeadows]

@thegroundhurts Way better than the 75-80° it was last year for the hunting season

[@thegroundhurts]

@@BjCmeadows Yeah. I was in the Santiam unit though and we are getting so much deadfall from the fire 4 years ago. Makes walking game trail a nightmare. Saw more bulls then bucks this deer season and now that it is elk season I lost the heard I was keeping tabs on.

[@Abhorrentchild]

honestly I really watch your videos for the personality you bring to the gun community, laid back and funny. Love how this channel is geared towards just the average guy and not like most channels that make it seem like you have to go all in. I got a BCM upper and aero lower 1100 on my AR15.

[@davidcole333]

I sure miss Paul. Loved his meat target videos, absolute gold.

[@JP-ro2yi]

Yeah the meat target is probably the most accurate representation of a human target.

[@luish8056]

Paul was great, his sharp wit, dry humor, and intellect all added up to an immensely enjoyable presenter to watch on this space.

[@24roughing76]

Paul was the only person Chuck Norris feared.

[@MrWhitelightning73]

@@davidcole333 Didn’t fps russia do that too

[@BandGeek2210]

Yes…l miss Paul Harrell

[@mikemcgrew4382]

Much love man ! Thank you for the dedication to sit in the rain to provide us with quality programming !

[@heybruh3274]

He didn't show us the umbrella being held over his head though 😂

[@j_ferguson]

From Oregon, can confirm. We dress for it though. We miss you Paul!

[@MrJdog1987]

Hi from Roseburg Oregon Paul was a legend!!

[@Oregun44]

Over yonder in Salem

[@JosephMartin-xw3wh]

I appreciate your honesty brother I know it’s in your name but you do live up to it and I’m so happy to see things going as well as they are for you and yours ! The new range is epic looking n I’m loveing seeing you and pre view co work! Stay you and also what u do for your community! Respect 🤙n ty

[@BoberFett]

My AUG wasn't cheap, but already having several ARs and AKs, it was fun to get something unique. I'll never sell it.

[@patriothippie5881]

Same, I purchased mine mine simply because it's cool. It has been a fun shooter, too.

[@highspy6851]

Same here, I just think they’re neat.

[@andrescarvajal9980]

That’s what I want to get next is the Aug, got an AK for my first rifle and now I want the Aug a lot

[@highspy6851]

@@andrescarvajal9980 do it bro,AUGs are so cool!

[@andrescarvajal9980]

@@highspy6851 I can’t man I’m too broke to get one😪 hoping I can get one for Christmas if I have the money

[@oldsoul8429]

RIP Paul. Thanks for the content, brother.

[@Stab_Knifewind]

Not my ticondas.

[@jamesfoster2591]

@@Stab_Knifewind 😆That was so dang funny! I had forgotten about that.

[@hedgemowerman]

Did years of research and saving before buying an AR. Bought the Zion and it’s been amazing. No complaints whatsoever.

[@mve9924]

The ATF is still a gay bar.

[@TheotherArcher]

Anus Tickling Fellas

[@austinbaker8175]

That's disrespectful to gay bars

[@JP-gi7dw]

If you VOTED for gangsters to be your masters, you deserve the STUPID prizes.. 😂😂😂

[@augustinegonzales4266]

The Tisas DS has a better trigger than any of my other pistols. The two I have tried both functioned very well. The commander had a heavy trigger (5-3/4 LB trigger) which I have been working on lowering. The Duty was a whole pound lower. I am happy with both and they scratched the itch. You can buy both for the price of a Prodigy.

[@satagaming9144]

I have a used single-stack carry (B45R or sth) that I got for $250 entire dollars, the trigger is genuinely good. A DS one too, it's wearing in to a similar level. I think it's just that the Girsan is shitty. edit: also what all have you found works to lower trigger pull weight on them, genuinely curious

[@augustinegonzales4266]

@@satagaming9144 I used to like Girsan. But I always had an issue with fit and finish. As for the trigger, one way to lower the weight is adjusting the leaf spring. Atlas Gunworks has some videos on how to do that. You can also polish the trigger bar, but I have only worked on the leaf spring.

[@harperhellems3648]

Exactly! I got 2 GI reproductions of the 1911 45 ACP for the price of one overpriced competitor. It scratched that itch and they are 100% accurate and reliable. Even the CMP is fronting them now. Go Tisas!

[@satagaming9144]

@@augustinegonzales4266 thanks man

[@anti8.6]

I completely agree with your opinion about lever guns with modern day stocks on them, even with the "performance tune" they are ridiculously priced, cool features seem to reduce common sense for most.

[@jtc406]

@@anti8.6 you have to keep in mind though, modded lover guns are for enthusiasts, not for practical considerations. They are your weekend sports car. Not your work truck or daily driver.

[@jamesb6505]

As ALWAYS, THE BEST AND MOST ENJOYABLE TO WATCH GUN REVIEWS. And I want to thank you for not injecting politics into the videos during this election. A lot of other gun reviewers did which I didn't appreciate it.

[@lbwlawyer]

I *LOVE* my Tavor. All your comments are well reasoned and valid. Still, I wanted it, I saved for it, and I love the damn thing. For me, it’s worth it. At least I went in with my eyes open.

[@keenanbartlome8153]

The aug and tavor are way better guns for the money than ar-15's of the same cost.

[@gifthorse3675]

My Fs2000 is so fun to shoot and is always the most unique thing on the range.

[@jameshedderly]

I got my x95 second hand so got the rifle I wanted at AR15 price. Will agree that they are pricey when brand new.

[@sultanofsick]

@@gifthorse3675 I want one so bad. I love unique and iconic designs, don't care if they're actually shitty (would also love to have an SA-80)

[@200130769]

Nothing wrong with buying what appeals to you.

[@DyrewulfNV]

Yeah, we have a stock .44 mag Henry Big Boy with a Vortex Crossfire on it, and my wife can knock the 'kinetic groundhog' target around all day long at 100 yards with it.

[@Marko9801ZG]

Greetings from Croatia, where Hellion/VHS2 costs the same as a CZ Shadow2, but any CZ costs more than in US even though they are made in EU...

[@frankopanklaric]

I paid more for my cz shadow 2 than I did for my VHS-2. Croatia ladies and gentlemen.

[@J.Young808]

They are making CZ’s in Kansas now, I have 4 (2P-10C’s, P-10F & Shadow 2) made in Czech Republic.

[@ShizawnSanders]

Would love it if a Shadow 2 was as cheap as your average Glock here in the US but CZ P10 series pistols are super cheap and great handguns. Better than Glock even in my opinion but much much cheaper.

[@daedalus6433]

How are gun rights in Croatia?

[@frankopanklaric]

@daedalus6433 Possesion permits are given after extensive background checks (around 6 months). For every firearm purchase you need a purchase permit (2 weeks). Carry permits are extremely rare. Mag limits apply to all rifles of 10 rounds. In short. It sucks. I don't care what anyone says. "Glass half full" mentality is what is holding us back.

[@mr.normalguy69]

9:13 I died at "all bullpups" 💀

[@MattWaller04]

RIP bullpup enthusiasts 😂

[@alexhazlett9587]

@@MattWaller04 Nah, just means he's wrong. RIP haters. Save the real hate for Nickleback.

[@Backwood865]

This is why I love the channel. Filming in the rain is dedication.

[@higuntalks]

PSA firearms, as an owner that would instead buy guns for a reasonable price then to spend money on good glass and munitions; I wouldn't do anything different. I can handle a malfunction for every 500 rounds fired that doesn't bother me. Lesson of the story though, take care of your guns. Don't have to dress them up for bed after every range day but every once in a while remember that a clean gun is a happy gun. One of the greatest combos you can have is a S&W sport AR or a PSA AR of your choice with my preferred Leupold glass. ANY DAY ALL DAY! Great review by the way, it's always good to raise awareness of extreme prices that aren't justified; especially for new gun owners.

[@Grizzlyman420]

I’ve had great luck with PSA! Even my GF5 AKM runs like a top! I have my vepr, arsenal, Zastava but I can’t hate on PSA. Will this GF5 run 40k rounds probably not but it’s a great tool

[@arthuroubre7562]

I have a Tisas 2011 five inch. I am very impressed with it. Good trigger with no problems. For the money, I think it is a great value

[@jdubb6591]

Me too, and I also have a Hellion bullpup. Don’t care what others like, I like what I like.

[@jtc406]

@@jdubb6591 props to you for finding something to like about that. Helped a friend with his and the only thing I can say is at

[@andrewhosuer3846]

I have a Tisas 2011 5” conveniently my commander size slide fits and functional 100% after 2800 rounds. 2 for 1

[@Grizzlyman420]

I have a TISAS 1911A1 and it’s top notch

[@donbosco3000]

I love this guy. He always keeps his subscribers first!

[@MilesHolmes]

Former Australian Defence Force here. We hated the AUG. We should have gone with the M16. Our SF never switched over to the AUG and ran M4s, now they run HKs, nuff said. (But I can run the AUG like a top. Fired a mate's AUG A3 during my last visit to the US and blitzed it. Buuuut if I had a choice I'd run an AR.) At the moment I run a NERF gun.

[@onpsxmember]

Were you in when you had the standard AUG? Already had the F88 or even the F90?

[@killerratchet1973]

Blame colt for not allowing Australia to build the M16s under license. That's a big factor that lead to it not being adopted.

[@forkthepork]

@@killerratchet1973 Add it to the list of reasons to hate Colt.

[@BTechUnited]

​@@killerratchet1973 well that and the engineering and testing evaluation back at trial that showed the Aug blew the M16 out of the water in basically every single reliability and durability test they threw at it.

[@Sway_0]

Literally just thought to myself, “I wonder if ol dude uploaded today”

[@johnnail532]

Hellion is my favorite rifle hands down

[@RobertPatton-kz6lq]

That makes one of us

[@snoshorts]

Agree. Just wish backup parts were available from Springfield.

[@scroti2042]

I have one, the safety is weird so I bought an aftermarket one, it shoots nice

[@jdubb6591]

@@johnnail532 Got mine in flat dark earth. People don’t know what they are missing.

[@johnnail532]

@@snoshorts wonder if there is a way to get an oops kit

[@AllAboutSurvival]

It’s always good to see honest takes on what's worth the investment. Some guns might have a high price tag, but if they don't deliver in performance, reliability, or durability, it’s hard to justify the cost.

[@gadarn850]

I like the the price range on the AR platforms of around $1500. I agree with you. What would you say would be the most you would recommend spending on a pistol for A. Concealed carry B. Home defense C. Poo hit hits the fan side arm D. Competition

[@kansaspen468]

Same here

[@EC-mc7vg]

THANK YOU FOR THE #1. I'm glad someone like you with clout in the firearms community said it, now maybe the AR snobs will understand. I hunt hogs here in Texas and I use way too many different cartridges in AR rifles and pistols so I have way too many ARs, but not really. I build or assemble most of mine but have used everything from BCA to Wilson Combat and a lot in between and have never has a problem. I don't sling out 10 trillion rounds a year like some of the online "operators" do for "training" so I can't speak to really hard abuse or extreme use. But as you said, for the average shooter, SHTF or hunter there are a lot of good options around the $700 mark. Good video.

[@Nick089032]

I love my Zion 15, some new furniture & a trigger/BCG & im thrilled. My Springfield St. Victor is stock, but I love that too. Lol

[@Hawtload]

Seems like instead of the future being bullpups, it's more like the side charging ARs with no buffer tube (like the CMMG Dissent) that you can fold the stock on. Obviously rear charging ARs are still the gold standard for future-proofing (ie. Sig MCX)

[@keenanbartlome8153]

those are short stroke gas piston systems copied from the ar-18. which happens to be what most mainstream bullpups are too.

[@HeartTribe]

@@keenanbartlome8153 people cannot comprehend a non AR shaped gun. Lol

[@Crosshair84]

The AR charging handle is an ergonomic abomination. Nobody should have anything positive to say about it.

[@toddparker514]

​@@HeartTribe I agree lol

[@jayjohnson3732]

You DON’T have to spend more that 2k for a good bullpup. Except for the desert tech, every rifle you mentioned can be had for less than that, and by good margin.

[@scroti2042]

Yeah I’ve seen the hellion go for 1700 before

[@vault_dwelIer]

Yeah he's a bit out of touch on that one. I've seen Augs drop below $1400 on a few occasions. Granted, you also have to buy an optic. Helions are less than 2k all day and even have integrated sights. Not as cheap as an entry AR, but not as bad as he's making it out to be.

[@HeartTribe]

I’ve saw an AUG sale a while back for that price, and I stared at my $1800 boy chillin in the corner lol. Also, #2 is so off. The world switched to AR pattern because US lol. We have ARs, and the world follows suit.

[@ShizawnSanders]

Yeah, if you do your research you can get a AUG for around $1600. He also threw Daniel Defense under the bus and again you can get one of those for around $1600 too.

[@dominic6542]

I got an aug for around $1500 I think, but I love it, very unique gun. I'd use an AR for home defense though

[@ilmob1234]

LOL. The Die Hard comment, I'm that guy! Ever since I was 8 the AUG has been my dream gun.

[@Mikethecoolguy]

Federal firearms freedom act now. Call your congressman and tell them you want national reciprocity, no awb bans, no rosters, no taxes or any other gun control scheme in all 50 states.

[@bargainman]

Trump's RIDING to the RESCUE of our 2nd Amendment Rights, because "Commie Kamala" said in the 2020 Democratic Party debate that she wants "Mandatory Gun buy-backs" and strangely enough Biden told her that's "unconstitutional"!!!

[@gifthorse3675]

We still don’t have the house and will barely have it plus we don’t have 60 votes in the senate so don’t expect much

[@jeffrhodes3705]

First you have to vote for a good congressman. Calling a shitty congressman wont do aything

[@Dgafsranger]

​@@gifthorse3675 we have the house now officially

[@JP-gi7dw]

Really.. ain't that what the 2A is already all about?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DJBain-b4z]

Thank you for all your knowledge ! You are the best on the internet for sure.

[@adamcondon5120]

I have a Hellion and I enjoy it quite a bit.

[@eaglebiohazard7762]

ASs an active duty Marine and having had 2 shoulder surgeries the springfeild hellion is my go to rifle i have plenty of AR-15S I HAVE A PLEATHERA OF OTHER STYLED RIFLES BUT HAVIN THE EASE OF USE FORM THE BULLPUP DOING EVERY THING MY AR CAN DO IN A SMALL PACKAGE AND CLOSE TO MY BODY WHERE I DONT HAVE TO EXTEND MY INJURED BODY IT WORKS VERY WELL. ALSO SORRY I ACCIDENTALLY TURNED ON MY CAPS LOCK

[@kyloklown9380]

Best gun reviews on youtube by far

[@Letmechill4asec]

You haven't seen them all. I have. He isn't the best.

[@rivercityracer3683]

I will say, I spec'd out a 14.5" Vseven Harbinger in .308 and its been an absolute pleasure all around. As a battle rifle and a hunting rifle, its been quite accurate with several 7.62 and 308 loads, lightweight, reliable, and well gassed for use with a SFMB and/or a reduced backpressure can. If you carry an AR for extended periods of time that weight reduction is REALLY nice, especially knowing you're not losing durability or reliability to get that. I've since built a suppressor dedicated SIONICS barrel 11.5 using mostly Vseven parts as well that weighs 6 pounds 12 ounces with a B&T inconel Rotex 556k, Aimpoint T2/Unity riser, and a Surefire Vampire, and a sling on it, empty mag. Really nice to carry and train with. ❤

[@ThatGuy-fx9sq]

The problem with bullpups is nobody buys them because they cost so much but if no one buys them and makes them popular the price will never go down. And bullpups have some good advantages over standard layout rifles.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

It's the problem with any non-AR15 platform. They are not inferior, some of them is superior, or at least potentially superior, but there are SO MANY builders of AR15 parts, in competition among them, that a good AR15 build is ALWAYS going to be cheaper and "offers more possibilities to customization".

[@jackaubrey8614]

From a TACTICAL standpoint, bullpups will always be at a disadvantage to "standard" style rifles simply because in order to fire round a right-hand corner (say of a building) you have to expose your whole body to possible return fire - because of the ejection port (unless you LIKE hot brass in your eye...?). Yes, I know a couple have been designed that eject forward (through a tube), but would you really want to rely on that tube never being jammed with crud/brass if your life depends on it? I went from an SLR (FN FAL) to a SA80 and know which one I'd rather carry if my life might depended on it....

[@neutronalchemist3241]

@@jackaubrey8614 The VHS / Springfiled Helion simply ejects laterally, but ahead of the shooter's head. It can be shot from the left or right shoulder without changing ejection port. With the Beretta ARX bolt (the patent will expire in 2028) it's possible to switch ejection port simply pressing a button (in the ARX you need a bullet tip, but that's not mandatory).

[@mattcomchoc2957]

For some reason RDBs have dropped in price a ton lately. $650 the other day on wikiarms

[@jellyfrosh9102]

@@jackaubrey8614 You can shoot the VHS-2 with either hand without changing the ejection side. That's why the stock extends so long.

[@jamesmix78]

Heck I bought a $260 bear creek 300blk thinking it was going to be garbage. No dust cover, no fwd assist. But I’m here to tell ya. It’s a glorious lil pew. Works flawlessly. I did add a folder and changed buffer and trigger out but that’s all I’ve don’t and it’s a great cheap truck gun. I thought it was going to be a junknparts gun but not at all. Price and name definitely isn’t everything unless like you say, if you’re deploying and running tens of thousands of round maybe.

[@DM-mb3uz]

RIP Paul

[@johnw391]

It’s always nice to hear one that has expensive guns talk down to those who have budget guns but like them just as much

[@MrOnihige]

One thing regarding expensive AR's. Here in Sweden, each gun you buy has to be approved by the police and has its own license and they can deny you for honestly whatever reason (such as saying you already have a rifle in that caliber), and the guns are already way more expensive due to imports etc you might as well go for something extra nice. For example, a RUGER AR-15 556 MPR .223 REM 18" is just over 1700 USD here. Aero Precision M4E1 is over 2100 USD.

[@TheBlackAce99]

Yikes, getting robbed like that should be a crime. 😂

[@Maddog3060]

Ouch. I feel for you, man.

[@danonsgard4616]

The price increase on an 18" barrel vs 16" is pretty big here as well. I bought a zion 15 for 800$ with 16 in barrel. The 18" version was over 1200. I think the 18" version of the ruger is similarly priced to the zion. Zion had upgraded trigger for 18", ruger has their upgraded ( non mil-spec) trigger in both. Not sure if there are any other differences. That said there does appear to be a 500-900$ Sweden tax on your examples.

[@Gargoyle77777]

At least you can still get the Are 15 There banned in Canada because of liberals

[@mr321k4]

When I seen the title I was like yea right. Your video and many years of grandthumb and friends video. Having personally shot few types of firearms (maybe a mag here and their. Trying at the range) to see if I want them. You sir are a man of truth.

[@gingerd4321]

I bought a Tisas B9R duty 1911 double stack just because im interested in 2011’s and want to learn the different manual of arms, parts etc. It’s actually a really nice gun for the 500$ I paid for a forged steel gun with no MIM parts and accepts any 1911/2011 parts if I wanted to upgrade it. I agree if I could afford it I would prefer a Staccato, but it’s a start for just a range gun and learning the system. Would love to see you do a review of the Tisas 1911 double stack B9R (duty or carry) and see what you think (taking into consideration the price point). Great video as always sir!

[@Grizzlyman420]

I have a 1911A1 and it’s fantastic! I was blown away so I bought an all stainless TISAS 1911! Both in the only caliber a 1911 should be in 45ACP 🇺🇸

[@jaydawg116]

Purchased a lightly used iwi x95 for 1000 back in 2019. Best purchase ive ever made. Ive exclusively trained on this, usually about 1000 rounds a month, so i have the manual of operation down as a reflex. Best purchase ever. Iwi made a good bullpup. Id reccomend to anyone whos even remotely interested in a bullpup.

[@LCAviator26]

Good video. I’d love to see a review on the S&W Model 19 Classic. I’m looking to buy soon and would love your honest opinion on it.

[@tomcatbeer]

Call around and see if there are any gun ranges around your area that have one to rent. I prefer the N-frames, but love the Smith and Wesson revolvers.

[@mitchculpepper738]

Hallelujah!! Finally a gun tuber that finally says it out loud. Any AR 15 priced over 2k is meant to separate a fool and his money!! Once you’ve reached 2k the law of diminishing returns turns into a fool and his money!

[@WaterZer0]

Thank you for having both "just get an AR" and "no, don't waste your money buying one that's over $2000" opinions.

[@CoryIsMyName]

In the days where every GunTuber is telling us to keep buying things to appease our corporate overlords, it's refreshing to see someone talk about things that they don't think people should buy.

[@cullencarney7581]

I don't really understand bullpup hate. Outside of cost and ergonomics. And besides the ergonomics kinda work if you train with them. They are extremely well balanced. And can be very compact. They solve some of the size problems of the ar15. And some people complain about the lack of modularity. But the new aug a3 m2 is amazing. With the kits I have I can swap FOUR different calibers relativity easily. And between 2 within seconds.

[@GrimSoldat]

They're fine. I think it's just people trying to find rationalizations stay "in the box". The same people usually say the same things about PCC's or any other oddities. Although, I do have to agree with price points being the downside. The rest is just training. Honestly, I think a lot of the military forces switching over has more to do with politics than anything. After all, politics has *never* affected military logistics and procurement right? 😂

[@corvanphoenix]

The 🇦🇺 Army sure isn't walking away from bullpup.

[@jontee3437]

I think that entire segment could be condensed down to; if you are wanting to get the most out of your money, then sub 2k AR-15s are the best choice hands down. This of course being aimed mainly at the average gun owner. Speaking for myself, I can't afford anything anywhere close to bullpup prices and for what I do, a sub 1k AR works great. I think that's what he was getting at. However, while I'm not a bullpup fan, I like seeing guys who can run them efficiently. I say if you like your bullpup, go out there and be the best dang bullpup operator you can be.

[@DeadLemonz]

Disagree with bullpups. For most civilian situations where you’re shooting 1 or two mags tops, almost all of the bullpup disadvantages don’t apply.

[@LenaKomarova-md9ke]

Seriously, this content made my day!

[@TroyShahanMusic]

I’m new to this channel, but I really enjoyed the video. I’m sure your opinions upset a few fanboys, but I appreciate the honesty.

[@rafaelpaun1907]

YES to number one. Love that it’s 1 on the list. I am an FFL and gun shop owner, I sell a lot of AR15s. I don’t recommend any of my customers to spend like over 1k on an ar. You can buy a PSA, ruger ar556, Springfield saint, etc for way under 1k and it will perform fantastic. Don’t waste your money.

[@squonk2902]

AR Saint pistol, works great, it's super fun to shoot with the red dot and it's ready for home defense too.

[@izzmonk]

Ruger 556 runs great for me!

[@RenjiMaili]

This is just me but I'm of the opinion that if you're paying 1k or up than you should part it out and assemble the gun from the best parts you can afford. Is it hard to do? Maybe if you don't have the inclination for it or the tools but a FFL can do the work if the owner isn't down for it. Either way you get exactly what you're looking for in exchange for the cash. Otherwise any reputable AR off the shelf is doing work for less.

[@Maddog3060]

My first AR was a Ruger 556, I definitely recommend it. But get the one with the railed upper; I got the one with the old style handguard but it doesn't have a heat shield so it warmed up real fast. Ended up replacing it with a Magpul.

[@michaelmurphy6869]

S&W MP-15 Sport ll works for me. $700. Bone stock never had a problem with it.

[@Powershift]

As a former 07FFL/SOT I agree with you 100%! Great video.

[@seanbrando_7456]

A month ago I would have agreed on the cheap 2011 statement...........until I tried the Mac-9 DS. Yes- it is brought in by TISAS.......they are like 950-1000$ and mine has 1000rds on it with only 1 failure to eject. The gun is slightly oversprung from the factory IMO and the trigger is a little heavy but not awful. A 12 pd nighthawk recoil spring and a wilson mainspring plus for good measure a lighter nighthawk hammer spring and its GREAT for the money. Mine runs 100% with my 20 rd Atlas mags too. Basically with a 30$ spring pack and a couple extra mags it's a great gun. Optics ready, the sighta aren't great but so what. They are fiber optic and close to suppressor height. It's worth the money to me, it's been very reliable to my absolute surprise and I'm not the only one. Other than the Mac-9 however I would not go any cheaper at all. Like I said, it's not like me at all but I'm so glad I tried this gun.

[@DukeJustet]

I have a tricked out Henry model X 45-70 with all the rails, bullet quiver on the side, and eotech sight. It's not practical and weighs a lot, but man, there's something about the lever action and big round that just puts a smile on your face.

[@monic5623]

Just watching to make sure my guns aren't on this list

[@dwaynedray3154]

You and me both lol😂

[@davids5006]

Same!

[@augustuswayne9676]

Me too .🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@SOSdoorgunner69]

You are correct on most of the 7 but..I bought a Tisas Nightstalker 1911ds and it is flawless, trigger is unreal. the best 600.00 I have spent on any pistol. I REALLY agree on the lever guns costing way more than any gun should cost. my Marlins are 40 years old and still are nail drivers, and they were inexpensive even back then. btw I apologize about the Girsan yes you are right that one is junk. I have a Tisas Nightstalker 1911ds version and it's flawless, like a well oiled machine. no problems eats all ammo.

[@SOSdoorgunner69]

I forgot!!! oppologize for the view on the Girsan. I agree with that. Mine is the Tisas and although they look like they were made in same factory, they are completely different. the Tisas Nightstalker 1911ds is very very well made and tight smooth, like a slick machine. you were talking about that clamp the Girsan and that is a POS. I tested one at the range that a guy had. but Tisas makes some good stuff for Turkey. the Turkanelli M5 I biult up is flawless. and it was total under 1000.00 for all the parts. the Benelli M5 is way over priced. so nuff said. good job on the vid. check out the Tisas and see what I mean.

[@customcutter100]

Funny I asked when you were going to review a MAC 9 or Tisas Double Stack yesterday. Today you upload and say all "cheap" 2011's are no good, because of the Girsan that you reviewed. I guess Girsan got reviewed because they sent you a free gun.

[@thiagoaraujo4815]

Awesome video. Thank you for all that you do.

[@jonathonbridges9625]

I have a seekins precision 223 wylde. Absolute nail driver for 1700 back in 2019.

[@keenanbartlome8153]

seekins is quality for sure.

[@TrdTodd]

Really, really good video. It keeps you grounded and reminds you to not kid yourself so much.

[@tatsuhirosatou5513]

For 99.9% of people PSA is completely fine

[@JP-gi7dw]

99.9% of people will never use a gun for self-defense.. 😂😂😂

[@tatsuhirosatou5513]

@JP-gi7dw psa is fine for 100% of people that use it for self defense. The only people that need something beyond psa are bench rest shooters

[@efthemiosvassilopanagos7728]

As a 30 year army veteran (22 years as a Special Forces Weapons Sgt) I support this message!

[@bluemage67]

Very glad I got around the #1 mention. Got an AR M-15 Tactical on sale off PSA for $850 including tax and fees.

[@ArtistryBranson]

Chris, thanks for meteorologically taking one for the team! 😂 Another damned good video. I had been on the fence about bullpups. Great concept, just not as great a concept as the 15. God bless from the Ozarks!

[@pwrplnt1975]

Though I could spend whatever I want on an AR. I will NEVER spend over 1500 for an AR, BUILD YOUR OWN!

[@alexanderstordeur9434]

Yeah, I would never spend 1500 nor 2000 on a AR-15 by it self's out of box when a Entry level 300 - 700 one can work just as well.

[@Biidi2001]

I spent 1200 building mine, but I'm a southpaw and needed a few non standard parts.

[@Canes-kh5bq]

@@alexanderstordeur9434can but ive had a few lemons in that price range too.

[@ROCMASTA1]

I totally agree! I built my own version of the FN Tac 3 for the grand total of $956.39. It has all the FN furniture and the CHF 16' barrel, also the cerakote of my choosing.

[@Sigrafix]

I put a $950 BRN 180 upper on a $40 Anderson lower with a $40 cmmg kit.. 😂 Smooth as butter, my favorite rifle I own... I mean uh, pistol. LOL.

[@Ryan33T35]

not what I expected... Additional Recommendations from a guy that fires thousands of rounds... Priceless. Ty! NC, USA

[@mikepraed4623]

Nope, Paul wouldn't complain about the weather. 😔

[@willbrink]

Very fair list. Only gun on this list I'd want would be the Tavor, but not worth the $ at all when a great AR can be had for a 1k less.

[@Stainlessslayer]

#1 has me feeling good about the mp 15 sport 3 I just bought.

[@Grizzlyman420]

Shit I still have a M&P gen 1 and she runs great! I have a BCM BCG ready for when the original dies. PSA M4 runs great as well!

[@noncompliant209cali]

Really like that they went with a pencil barrel on the sport 3

[@lostone9320]

I appreciate your honesty with the $2K plus AR pick. It’s the truth.

[@Danlight1911]

10:10 100% subjective. I find my Tavor to be way smoother to manipulate than an AR even while prone. If it wasn't for the fact that ARs are just way more accessible I'd 100% fully switch to my Tavor.

[@davids5006]

All of these listed are subjective

[@erics2091]

His point was for the money you could get a sub $1k AR, accessories, extra mags, and training for less money than one of them. He wasn’t saying they were terrible like the M&P 22 mag that jammed all the time or the Tommy Built being just looks and not function. He likes them and even recommend a few of them, he just thought they weren’t necessarily worth it. But price is all subjective to the individual anyway. If you make 3k a week a 3k rifle isn’t anything. But if you make 3k a month, it’s something to save up for. The Tavor is pretty cool tho. It’s probably my favorite bullpup. I still prefer the AR platform because I have more time behind it.

[@docgillygun9531]

MAC guy loves bully's.

[@CherryCoke-qi1kz]

Your list and comments freaking nailed it. Tacticool lever guns=lame, Bullpup=lame, super high end ARs for couch operators= lame. Nice list. Keep them coming!!!

[@countrybiker]

Love the channel, I watch every one you cone out with. And on the 1911s I've been looking at the tisas duty 17rd 1911 and have heard nothing but good, but I might have second thoughts now, appreciate the videos and keep up the good work.

[@Grizzlyman420]

TISAS are great! I snagged a 1911A1 was so impressed I picked up a well stainless

[@OnlinecarshowNet1]

Keep up the honesty guys. Once you lose that you'll be no different than the masses.

[@generalgreevus8773]

You can build out an AR with even the most premium components on the market for well under 2k. I even made a list and the rough price of an entire AR if you slapped one together yourself. And you can save even more money waiting for sales or swapping parts, but this list will cost about $1300. Blem Criterion Barrel $270 PSA stripped lower reviever $30 Aero breach CH $75 Aero enhanced upper $200 Aero enhanced handguard $160 Superlative Arms adjustable gasblock and tube $90 DD trigger guard with grip $34 LaRue 2 stage trigger $100 CMMG lower parts kit $40 A2 Flash Hider $8 BCM mil-spec carbine buffer kit $53 B5 stock $58 BCM BCG $189

[@lee.isaac.richard]

I’m Donald Trump and I approve this message 🇺🇸

[@scottsherwood8555]

Thanks for the straight to the point review of these guns. Very helpful.

[@ParrotTactical]

Big bullpup fan. You’re right on price though the X95 can be had ~1600-1800. Ergonomics are actually better, people just don’t like change and aren’t willing to put in the maybe one dedicated range session it takes to get used to them. Where they really shine is in reducing OAL without neutering your ballistics. HK416s are cool, but a 5.56 in 10.3 is pushing something like 2500-2600fps meaning your reliable fragmentation is way decreased while your flash, bang, and gun wear are all significantly increased. Food for thought! Edit: also the militaries moving away from them are primarily standardizing on the AR patterns which are cheaper to make and have more of our guys offering training on them. It doesn’t mean Bullpups aren’t great, it just means America runs on AR and all the little guys look up to big bro.

[@jonwesick2844]

I rented a Hellion at the shooting range and liked it.

[@shamuslockey]

​@@jonwesick2844 they sell by me for 1400-1600 in texas not too bad

[@coach-]

lol, how does your gun wear more by shooting a bullet with less velocity? god people are fucking dumb.

[@redtra236]

@@jonwesick2844 I love my RFB as a hunting rifle it really makes the difference in a tree stand with the very short overall length and is really accurate with my handloads.

[@HeartTribe]

THANK YOU.

[@joedolan5625]

Soo happy someone finally said it about over priced ARs!

[@ThomasSimmons-j9l]

Paul Harrell =GOAT

[@trinalgalaxy5943]

As an Oregonian, I can confirm that we just go out in the rain because during the rainy season, its basically always raining. its worth noting that a good Oregon rainstorm is usually a steady rate but not a crazy rate.

[@JonFox-t5x]

I bought a Radical Firearm’s RF16 for $387. Never had a problem yet and it’s very smooth operating and has a 4 1/2 pound trigger out of the box. The only addition I made was a better charging handle and an LPVO. I’ll never shoot thousands of rounds through it but it serves the purpose I bought it for. Plenty accurate enough too.

[@jameshageman6244]

Hey, I love the fit and finish of my Daniel Defense AR. You hurt me deep, brother. I swear every damn part was made with love!

[@SadieCarpenter-ft4he]

I can't believe how good this turned out!

[@Mitsurugi2424]

"I can't believe YT hasn't done more to crack down on these sex-scam bot accounts."

[@borgkube]

My Beretta argument is I have small hands and the is just perfect for me. It shoots well and is very accurate. I don't mind carrying it, in a shoulder holster, which I prefer. As to the price,agree it is high but I picked mine up when Cabela's had it on sale this fall for in the low $500's. So I have to say that I love the gun but I am no the big handed guy. I've learned never to buy a weapon without holding it in my hand first so I can make sure that I can reach and operate the controls. But for you, I understand why it's a gun for you!

[@huntertom3006-dj4oy]

I agree $3000 for a lever action is to much. I'll stick with the wood stock Winchester and Marlin rifles for hunting. Great video

[@HTen-gl5di]

Got an M&P Sport2. Wish I would have got a Zion.

[@stormlakebobcat9058]

To be fair, most 800 to 1100 dollar ARs are comparable. It's mostly a name you are paying for. IWI is good quality. But customer service and parts were crummy according to a Ranger Medic I worked with. Ruger is no slouch and gets the job done. 🦅🇺🇸🗽👍

[@Grizzlyman420]

I have the original sport and a PSA M4 great guns

[@ShotgunSurgeon]

My Tisas has been bulletproof. The tolerances are quite nice too. After a bit I put a custom trigger kit in and I couldn't be more happy.

[@trippyhare]

I really miss the chapter breaks. :/

[@deonmixon]

$1123 for my Saint Victor and then outfitted with 510C, MS4 sling, AFG, and Odin Mini. Love it.

[@JerseyMcK]

I just started the video but I have a strong feeling the P320 is on it.

[@johnsmith-i1n]

The following guns are always worth, the cost, because they are reliable, smooth action, & extremely tactical. The following are the top choice for any professional: H&K, Smith & Wesson, Beretta, and the absolute G.O.A.T. SIG SAUER. GLOCK IS OUTDATED & OVERRATED FOR THE COST AND NOT AS RELIABLE.

[@mattwalters6834]

I do like bullpups even though they can be more expensive; haven’t seen one over $2k recently. I have the Tavor SAR and love it, the VHS2 is really nice and can be had for the same price as a BCM and what not in my neck of the woods, I think the ergonomics aren’t that bad.

[@orbitalair2103]

plus you can tuck it under your arm, under a long coat and no one would know the better. remember, be the grey man. hard to do that with a 20in colt HBAR