“Honeymoon States” with Sarah Snook & Lucy Prebble | Succession Podcast S4 E4 | HBO

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[@AA-qb7ni]

Sarah Snook better win that Emmy this year!!! She's deserved it since the beginning 🙌

[@darrencudjoe755]

This WHOLE ENTIRE PROJECT SHOULD CLEAN THE EMMYS OUT

[@irenegronewald7745]

yes!!!

[@therealdave06]

I love succession but please give Rhea Seehorn some love after 3 years of BCS getting robbed 😢

[@SvendBosanvovski]

She was brilliant. I thought that truth telling scene with Mathew MacFadyen where they deconstruct their relationship was up there with Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton. It was brutal.

[@A-G-A-G]

She has CRAZY good analysis And understanding of her character. So eloquently and insightful

[@margotk538]

Sarah is taking Jeremy’s advice of method acting by actually getting pregnant for the role. It’s paying off for sure, she’s amazing this season!

[@astrohaute]

bravo barah 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@theorderofthebees7308]

Lol! You crazy for that

[@Jvksiew]

And with red sequoia no less

[@irenegronewald7745]

I love her,great actress!!!!

[@operadoc]

I'm sure she got pregnant when she wanted for her own life

[@chipmunkpark8826]

The phrase "Is it real?" For me it was a way of seeing the kids being traumatized by Logan's manipulation and not being sure if he was playing with them

[@lakshmi4224]

Exactly, mirroring that initial Shiv being offered CEO position in S2.1 when she got all teary asking if it was real.

[@AdamPiper]

"I'm twin track, I'm dead but I'm alive." Succession writers are incredible.

[@yg-dn5ms]

Sarah articulated herself really really well here! Even as a fan I’m impressed!

[@AdAstra78]

One of the series' very best episodes for characterisation. Really great writing. Both Tom and Greg have never looked smaller.

[@geeta25]

Which is hilarious given their height

[@jamestulk4169]

I've always believed that Tom and Greg are the Rosencranz and Guildenstern of the series. This is finally being confirmed!

[@ccccc7848]

I think it’s interesting how she falls down stairs in episode 4, just like the Nero that Tom told the story about to Greg last season.

[@mangos2888]

I think that was totally unplanned and they left it in

[@laum5371]

​@@mangos2888 I don't think so. It looks planned is important

[@TisDana]

@@mangos2888 I think she loses the baby as a result and realizes she wanted a baby on some level.

[@Brandon-tk2rw]

@mangos2888 sure, if the show is known for anything it's known for being mostly improvised dialogue and lack of narrative structure...you nailed it

[@laum5371]

@@Brandon-tk2rw Allright no need to be sarcastic with the other person, you can rephrase what you said in a nice manner

[@nebulanigrimleonis3883]

This show, for me.... has been one of the most amazing, fascinating television experiences I have ever had. It has been a PERFECT ALIGNMENT OF THE STARS. The Writing, the Actors, the locations, the homes, and the MUSIC. This theme song hits so hard! You are instantly aware that you are immersed in a brutal elegance. A place where you know perfection is required. Its beyond royalty. Because they are unapologetic capitalist Americans. And, we dont usually get to see Americans, portray this. Everything about thgis story line and show is just spellbinding and majestic. I am on the edge of my seat every episode, and sad to see it end.

[@jessicaturrell6884]

This is the best way I have seen the show described. I feel the exact same way.

[@LaneCarter]

I like how Sarah is totally willing to be critical of her character. While I understand that actors need to understand where their characters are coming from, I think some take it too far and defend the intentions of their characters too much.

[@fabianocaruana8622]

Dont take shots at Brian Cox. Brian Cox is a legend.

[@faizanulhaq8349]

Just say Brian Cox

[@LaneCarter]

@@faizanulhaq8349 😂 he's not the only one, and I'm not just talking about this show!

[@mushy470]

Jeremy and Brian lol. I think conner and shivs actors are very self aware in interviews though

[@sarahlang2119]

Brian does that

[@adalynecummins1586]

Sarah is so well spoken, hoping for a big award season for her! 👑

[@nineteenct]

Having just watched the finale, and man *everything* Sarah says resonates so hard with Shiv. What a vicious character

[@sallyshafer436]

He wanted Kendall to be a killer so much he spelled it out in his initials: KLR

[@theorderofthebees7308]

Wow

[@gorkmusic]

Other than Brian Cox, I really do think she's the most impressive actor on the show. Especially when you watch and listen to her in real life, wow, in no way is she playing herself.

[@nathaliasantos2379]

Even the podcast is a masterpiece

[@MC-810]

This was another amazing 60 minutes of television.

[@liljackypaper]

Fascinating episode. So happy how strong this final season has been

[@morganwu767]

Ep4 > ep3 imo

[@DesireeJones-x7q]

Loved this episode. Kendall is my favorite character. Beautifully played by Jeremy Strong. To me, his emotions are genuine. Its hard to love and hate your father. He keeps trying to do what's best for the family even though it ends up blowing up in his face. If Kendall would just stop worrying about his father's approval even on death, he would make a great CEO. I Hope he finally takes the reigns with his siblings right by his side.

[@kaykayglover2463]

6:16 Tom will make an EXCELLENT mother. Shiv should give him a chance. The Fedderline jokes alone would be priceless.

[@spinstersuccess6941]

Shiv pregnant blew my mind! What happened to freezing her eggs?

[@dielaughing73]

Tom slipped one past the goalie

[@liserecherches9314]

She is pregnent in real life and its start to show.

[@lakshmi4224]

@@liserecherches9314 no if you count the months, Sarah said she’s currently 7 months pregnant, and so she only would have known in October-ish, and these scripts were written early 2022

[@alexcoyg3281]

Kerry went from Boss vibes to total ego collapse real quick

[@gd9259]

This interview: "She's the smartest and that's often the case". Gotta love journalist

[@jusjase27]

The very casual misandry from about min 7:30 to about 11:30 was a frustrating listen...

[@mushy470]

@@jusjase27 Are you really that sensitive? They said giving birth is an admirable thing and that mothers face a penalty in the workplace, which is just statistically true. Fathers get paid more than other men and mothers get paid less than other women. If you thought the comments about buildings being shaped like a disk was anything other than a joke, that's on you

[@gayatrisharma7663]

So happy for Kendall but so disappointed for Shiv

[@margotk538]

Kendall with all his flaws has actually handled a number of deals including Vulture. I can’t name one deal that Shiv has officially handled. Naming her would be a head scratcher to most shareholders.

[@gayatrisharma7663]

the reason she wasn’t able to is because she never got a chance to learn, was always excluded from the boys club, and when she was successful in her career in politics her dad couldn’t bear to see it and dangled the carrot. she never HAD the chance to learn

[@spewter]

@@margotk538 The Vaulter deal was trash. Kendall overpaid, didn’t do due diligence, and he lost the company a lot of money as evidenced in season 2. Any trader would be aware of this and therefore his history at Waystar is a liability to the share price.

[@newguy5672]

@@gayatrisharma7663 he offered her a realistic entryway into the position which she scoffed at and made many amateur moves to position herself as the new CEO. Not saying this cause I don’t like shiv, amazing character. But from a business perspective she had the opportunity and I think Logan may have been being honest when he offered it.

[@gayatrisharma7663]

@@newguy5672 agree on the first point but Logan was in NO way honest when he offered it, he wanted her to stop working from the Bernie Sanders guy because he couldn’t stand the thought of his babygirl with the enemy. Logon is never honest about anything

[@willianantonin]

Marcia is back

[@margotk538]

She’s back with a vengeance! Savage!

[@liserecherches9314]

Yes! Marcia has it all! She just have her own style of killing. Go Marcia!

[@manm323]

Couple of things I feel will come back and haunt this -- Kendall's UK waiter death. Shiv and the fact the baby not even be Tom's. Roman and his d*** pic. Greg's granddad will reappear. Kerry will likely know more or be pregnant ...I think Logan's wishes will come out of somewhere ....

[@sarahlang2119]

There will not be enough time to cover all those plot points

[@lanalou37]

Lol that last quote said to tom is so funny now in hindsight, makes sense why tom wants to get rid of frank and thingy

[@dignam8943]

I would really like to see the deleted scenes with Mencken from this episode. Justin Kirk was so villainous in that role. I'm curious about his interaction with Connor in this episode.

[@steamedhamlet]

The paradox is that Logan was selfish and did what he wanted, so for the kids to truly honor their dad's spirit they have to be selfish aka not care about honoring their dad's spirit. They can justify any action by either saying: it's what dad would do" or if it's not something he would do by saying: "hey dad did whatever he wanted. I'm doing the same thing." And I mean did Logan try to sacrifice Kendall in order to awaken his killer spirit? Or was he really going to sacrifice him?

[@elsamso1]

Tremendous episode after a very ballsy move with Logan, show could've fallen apart but it won't.

[@chipmunkpark8826]

Sarah Snook Emmy Campaign♥️

[@KatyWithAWhyyy]

Is anyone else wondering if the baby is actually Tom's? Given Shiv's many ehh, dalliances (esp with Nate!) I'm shocked I'm not hearing more about who that baby daddy may be. 🤔 😉

[@SpencerMedici]

I was thinking the same but I would be very surprised we’re it anyone’s but Tom’s.

[@cgill914]

Wow, Sumner Redstone sounds like a combination of Logan Roy and Sandy Furness. Very interesting.

[@niax782]

Was Shiv’s name on the document 📄? Frank or Karl said that he did not want the “princess” to undermine him (paraphrasing). I figured he was referring to Shiv. Could he have been referring to Gerry? Did Frank, Karl, Gerry alter the document?

[@cgill914]

I had that thought as well when they mentioned the “princess” but it seems that only Kendall’s name was on the page. However, personally I still hold the belief that Shiv was Logan’s true favorite. Not sure if there’s any proof of that tho.

[@maiaracarvalho6573]

The subtitles actually said “little princes” not “princess”

[@niax782]

@@maiaracarvalho6573 Princes - as in plural?

[@AdAstra78]

I've watched every episode of this show probably a dozen times yet I still don't fully understand what happened with that Gil/Nate storyline.

[@kevinsmithfan37]

I'm making a prediction. Shiv will be the one who comes out on top. Ken and Roman are going to shaft her and then Ken is going to shaft Roman the Tom is going to shaft Ken for Shiv when they realise they are better as a team

[@Hechicera86]

Thanks ❤❤

[@RizztrainingOrder]

Kara "sisters are the smartest ALWAYS!" Swisher

[@matt96920]

Does her saying "I think she'll be more of a killer than Kendall by the end of the season (paraphrasing here)" not let the cat out of the bag? Like doesn't that imply Shiv is going to try to take Kendall out?

[@spinachchilli3546]

Yup! I can't wait

[@motjon]

Oh she is definitely going to come for Kendall! She is incredibly spiteful and both Kendall and Roman have already crossed her. Once Shiv is angry she goes for blood in whatever haphazard way she can think of, it's one of her fatal flaws. She certainly doesn't lack that killer instinct.

[@sarahlang2119]

She didn't say anything she wasn't allowed to

[@sahirbansal7027]

Why did Karl, Frank and Gerri chicken out of destroying the "underlining" document?

[@ladybugflv]

That is because they saw the document as an opportunity to divide the brothers and conquer them. Just look at how the dynamics changed within the trio after they were told about it.

[@cgill914]

At first I thought that it might be a lingering loyalty that they have for the kids. Or could be that Gerri wants to divide and conquer and Karl & Frank are following her lead. Not sure yet 🤔

[@mangos2888]

It's non legally binding so I don't think it would've been worth the risk.

[@mushy470]

kendall is easy to control and predictable compared to roman and especially ship

[@sarahlang2119]

I think that even they sometimes feel they should do the right thing. Also are they sure Logan is really dead? I'm joking on both points of course

[@PurgPurg]

I like Kara Swisher as a journalist or whatever but man she is an annoying interviewer and podcast host. I didn’t recognize her voice in this, but as soon as I saw the “for your consideration” interview, I was like “wait this is that woman who keeps interrupting the cast to answer her own questions that she asks the cast”

[@uhuhuh1966]

Why would Logan cross out Kendall’s name but not replace the name with someone else’s?

[@anto4380delaguaridaa]

well why would he had underlined it if it was there on the first place? there WAS another name written on pencil, but they erased it

[@uhuhuh1966]

@@anto4380delaguaridaa you don’t know that, and he would underline it for the same reasons people underline anything, for emphasis, to not be misunderstood and to be clear in his choice, also they thought the paper was old so he could’ve come back to it later with doubts and then decided to double down on the decision after thinking it over and underlined it for his own peace of mind.

[@adamharrold407]

​@@anto4380delaguaridaafrank said "princess" . I think he wanted to give the company to shioban

[@liljackypaper]

​@@adamharrold407maybe it's like Game of thrones prince that was promised? That noun has no gender in high Valyrian so the proper translation is the prince or princess who is promised 😝

[@uhuhuh1966]

@@adamharrold407 that was Carl that said that, and I believe he was talking about Gerri, or maybe even Kerry

[@98bocinas]

10:31 "And at that time, she's not on Tom's team" oop-

[@amberlisa7365]

That piece of paper! Hysterical! It’s like Toni Morrison’s last book…. A rich person’s will….on a menu… turns out it was FAKE! The person responsible for drafting the real will (the housekeeper) didn’t like it! Everything to a mistress so she ripped it up, did the cryptic menu thing, kinda left it to relatives, but unclear. Of course they all fought about it… to the death… literally.

[@TisDana]

Tom and Greg bugged the 💩 out of me. Both acting so desperate at the same time…

[@JoJoJoker]

Remember episode 1: the audience meets Logan, Ken, and Greg in that order. Greg’s name was the most important detail. The grey hairs will take down Tom. The siblings will take dowb the grey hairs. The car crash will take down Ken. Greg (& Marsha? Ewan?) will collapse the rest of them. …Connor’s real estate deal was cracking us up. ….Logan died while answering Roman’s call.

[@N8Shamrockable]

Logan was alive for all three calls including Shiv In S1 E2 when Logan is hospitalized we get the exact same shot of the top of Logan’s head and the muted audio of the kids talking in the other room. Tom “killed” Greg by telling him not to tell anyone Logan died which Tom knew Greg would immediately fail to do, which is what Greg immediately does with his very “interested in Logan’s arrival” date. This is a recursive to “terminal cancer” from S1. Tom’s not crying for himself. He’s crying about he has to do to Grehto survive

[@sarahlang2119]

Wasn't Greg in the amusement park the first scene?

[@JoJoJoker]

@@sarahlang2119 yes. Logan at home planning a party. Kendall in car to Vaulter (doesn’t close the deal, failure). Greg vomiting then calling his mom (and getting to Logan’s party within a day, success).

[@DGG-en1fg]

Funny how the writers tried to sneak in the "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" line from Mike Tyson...They probably forgot that HBO used to have a stranglehold on the sport of boxing

[@dallasjamison5026]

Guessing Shiv's fall results in the loss of the baby. The writer wouldn't have added it in for no reason. Shiv also appears to be drinking a cocktail with Mattson in an upcoming preview.

[@sarahlang2119]

Could be a mocktail or she coulda just had a few sips and I'm not sure she sees Mattson, that could just be the editing

[@samanthacristinaburgosmera4160]

Coming from the future she pretended to be drinking all the time

[@MaverickIceman]

Why does it feel like Hugo is playing Kendall? That phone call that Kendall overheard looked super staged.

[@thomaswschaller]

could not help but wonder that, too. usually, he shuts up the second any of the family gets near

[@theorderofthebees7308]

Yes!

[@MaverickIceman]

@@thomaswschaller Right? And he placed himself by the entrance for that call as Kendall was walking in.

[@thomaswschaller]

@@MaverickIceman Exactly.... And then why did he confess his daughter's stock sale to Kendall - and only to him? Maybe he's just gaming it out and trying to stay on the inside

[@cgill914]

Yeah, I was confused why Hugo would choose that moment to talk to Kendall about that issue. Seems like it could have waited? Idk but Hugo is off for sure

[@MaMvidS45]

It looks like it started as an underline, but the "Logan Roy" part of his name is crossed out.....

[@deathskids]

I think he had Shiv's name written in pencil as the Ceo after he crossed out Kendal. The Old guard erased it and left Kendall name to drive a wedge. "Can't let the princess know"

[@niax782]

Yes! This us what I think too! “The princess” is/was Shiv, right? Have they ever referred to Gerri as a princess?

[@JuliaHernandezRuza]

I think they're referring to Kendall with "Princess", 100%

[@nattttttttt2774]

Turns out they didn’t change anything in the document bc someone analyzed the frames in the episode and made an approximate copy of the doc. it’s the same once they show it to the kids.

[@sarahlang2119]

​@Natalia DANG so much for my theory that he was going to leave it to Kerry and they "lost" that bit of paper

[@deathskids]

@sarahlang2119 Did he have a seat at the board? If so he probably had a paper in writing transferring it to her in the room.

[@lplt]

shiv and tom on the throne by the end .... unless she kills him

[@cgill914]

Kinda would also love to see Shiv win and double cross Tom to get back at him. Or they both win 😅

[@wonderlizz]

Nooooooo Shiv needs to be CEO! 🎉

[@aitothechamp7263]

“Shiv is the smartest among them” 😂

[@chipmunkpark8826]

She is the only one who had a career without having daddy's push. You think Roman and Kendall would've get hired at Waystar if they weren't Logan's sons? Shiv was promoted to chief of staff before she decided to resign, and actually helped her candidate to get far in the election. Plus, thanks to her the company wasn't destroyed since she manage to convince one of the victims not to testify💀

[@mushy470]

you are all forgetting she is also a decade younger than kendall and because she's a woman and younger, hasn't been given the opportunities to gain relevant experience. Also i think it is reflective of real like because murdochs daughter is also the only one to be successful on her own.

[@therealkendallroy]

@@chipmunkpark8826 You forget that it's because of her name and her association with Waystar and by extension ATN that she's useful as a political consultant

[@dielaughing73]

Did she really just say that Shiv is the smartest of the sibs and deserves a shot at the CEO job? What a laugh! She's smart, sure, but constantly oversteps her capacity and overplays her hand. She has virtually no track record in the business and a habit of putting her foot in it. I'm not saying that Kendall is a good choice, he's another bad choice IMO (though Kendall+Roman is even worse..) but Shiv never had any real claim on the job. All three are blinded by entitlement, Shiv even more than her brothers.

[@kinglear7]

That's such a man response of you

[@starlord6433]

@@kinglear7 how?

[@taras5534]

@@starlord6433 I agree that she overplays her hand. Though she’s literally the only one who has had any success outside Waystar. And she got herself a Board seat and made an ally out of Sandi before the shareholder vote. She also stopped the witness from testifying - not model behavior though Logan would say Rhea wasn’t killer enough and backed out.

[@mushy470]

shes the only one who has shown her competence outside of logans wings. Also shes smarter than ken and a decade younger

[@FinanceWisdomTech]

She doesn't have any experience, she should not definately be the head of the org. My #1 boy KENDALL is going to be the king.

[@sarahlang2119]

And destroy himself in the process

[@JoJoJoker]

Did anyone else notice it’s Kendall LOGAN Roy?

[@amberburroughs5144]

Yesssssssss i was thinking poor Connor the first born son didn't get his name LOL. I did love that his middle name is Logan. Was thinking it be cute if Shiv names her baby Logan whether its a girl or boy

[@Hechicera86]

Yesss 😱😱

[@sarahlang2119]

Yep. Initials are KLR. Killer. That's no coincidence

[@JoJoJoker]

@@sarahlang2119 wow nice catch.

[@Collageartist69]

These people are diabolical. They never show any real emotion. So guarded and cold. I hate Greg and Tom.

[@cgill914]

Really hated Greg and Tom this episode

[@Fivehe]

Oh I didn’t even connect the fall to the pregnancy

[@marie-ie5no]

my babygirl is now a killer 🥺

[@Upsallauniversity123]

Shiv snd tom will never 😅😅

[@stadbab]

her body, her baby, her call. tom would weaponize her pregnancy to keep her from going through with the divorce.

[@Upsallauniversity123]

@@stadbab shiv will have full custody of her kids . Tom will die at end of season ( don't worry )

[@mushy470]

@@stadbab i think it would be easier for shiv to weaponise it as it is literally what tom wants most in the world and its probably not even top 5 for shiv

[@yoel-eh5yz]

who said Tom is the Dad?

[@daediaz186]

It's hard to believe for me that she won't even considers to have an abortion? Rich people do it all the time and Shiv's pretty liberal. I think they are really forcing the script on this one.

[@Upsallauniversity123]

Spoiler @16:18

[@CoryAndor]

i mean just look at her face., the last frame of season 3 episode 9. it already looks that way

[@Aditya-lz6yb]

yup. I think it also alludes to Kendall dying?? maybe I'm reading into it too much?

[@strawkat]

​@@Aditya-lz6yb she mentions Roman, "Shiv and Roman will never have a scene together" I Mean if anything we know Logan and Shiv Will never have a scene together... Why Roman? 😢

[@AustinSansChateaux]

She means after the show ends, there will be more scenes between any of the characters, as the show will no longer be in production. When the show will be over, there will be no more of the show. Only a light spoiler.

[@Upsallauniversity123]

@@AustinSansChateaux she meant to say about tom and shiv condition at the end of season

[@aitothechamp7263]

Shiv in no way deserves to be CEO come on now 😂

[@cgill914]

Yeah, but I want her to be CEO more than I want Tom, Kendall or Roman 😂 will be interesting to see how things shake down as Greg says 😅

[@mushy470]

shes a decade younger than ken but about as good. Also the only one to actually show any level of competence on her own.

[@slothrop4751]

Shivbros... not like this

[@KB-313]

I've grown tired of the host very quickly. The cons outweigh the pros.

[@geekgirrrl]

So basically this is a semi-true story.... lol

[@LaReinaZorra]

Uh…who’s the daddy? We’ve seen her with three men so…

[@DSQueenie]

Tom. If it’s 20 weeks it’s Tom.

[@12cricketmad]

Kendalls

[@Collageartist69]

@@DSQueenie If Tom is the Father she won't ever admit it.

[@DSQueenie]

@@Collageartist69 since they we still married when the baby was conceived he’d have legal rights. Her only way out of involving him is to terminate the pregnancy and she has four weeks to decide before it’s too late.

[@wareing125]

Is it just me that gets the impression Sarah doesn’t like Jeremy Strong…

[@dancruickshank3774]

Why did the host bring Elon Musk into this conversation? Talk about living rent free.

[@nickneek]

The presenter is sooo bad . No understanding about anything. Is this the network dictating what she says? It's like she's not seen the show

[@mangos2888]

Shiv holding this pregnancy against Tom makes me dislike her even more. Shiv is psychotic. Worst of the 3 imo

[@ChezzaOuttaNowhere]

Tom made a play against his own wife.

[@chipmunkpark8826]

Tom is an opportunist. 💀💀💀💀 Don't feel bad for him...he is as bad as the other characters. He treats everyone who is below him as human furniture, and betrayed his wife for a spot in the company which he got from her anyways. She got him the job ay ATN

[@liljackypaper]

​@@chipmunkpark8826I dont blame Tom. Shiv even told him he didn't love her

[@kimberquirky]

She is the MOST like Logan.

[@kimberquirky]

@@chipmunkpark8826 spineless Tom! So pitiful!

[@lakshmi4224]

Kendall’s finally becoming the killer Logan always wanted 🥹🥹

[@gayatrisharma7663]

His initials are literally KLR

[@widowswail888]

@@gayatrisharma7663 wow

[@dielaughing73]

It's kind of a victimless crime, apart from cutting his siblings out of the decision. If it helps shore up his and Roman's positions, and perhaps stabilise the company, then what's the harm?

[@chiomawoherem4625]

Kendall is not a killer. Shiv is the killer among them

[@sarahlang2119]

​@@chiomawoherem4625 well he kinda killed someone