Honing Compounds - Alternatives

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Mitch Peacock • Designer Woodworker

Mitch Peacock • Designer Woodworker

Күн бұрын

Honing Compounds - Alternatives
Want a mirror finish to your tools, but don't have any honing compound to hand? Find out what alternatives you might have around.
Your garage is the best bet. Products for paint and chrome renovation, marketed to motorists, can achieve great results. Whilst in the kitchen, those for ceramic hob and pan cleaning are also good. But forget modern toothpaste, which proved to be next to useless.
For comparison, I used Tormek PA70, and the best alternatives matched it's performance!
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@antmallett6065
@antmallett6065 9 жыл бұрын
I use what we in South Africa call 'rubbing compound' - the stuff used to polish out defects in automotive paint after spraying it. It's cheap as chips and works very well. I have had great results photographing fine detail through a coddington magnifier such as yours using a cellphone camera pressed right against and centred on the eye-piece. Adjust the light source correctly, fumble with the shutter button a bit while trying to hold the two together, and you have a free macro lens that works surprisingly well.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Ant Mallett Two great tips! I shall try the macro lens right now
@weirdlywonderful829
@weirdlywonderful829 2 жыл бұрын
Go South Africa 🇿🇦 I’m South African and idk why but when I hear South Africa I go crazy
@robertchanclor2810
@robertchanclor2810 9 жыл бұрын
This vid helps so many woodworkers. You give us options that reduce costs and provide tested results. Thank you.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Robert Chanclor Thanks Robert. In many cases woodworking specific items are better for a job, but where they aren't I don't like to see woodworkers out of pocket.
@intotheblue50
@intotheblue50 6 жыл бұрын
Love what you've done here Mitch, a really useful exploration and comparison, thank you.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Phil
@TheLittleGardenShedWorkshop
@TheLittleGardenShedWorkshop 9 жыл бұрын
A great topic Mitch, very interesting, Thank you for sharing, Cheers Harry
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
The Little Garden Shed Workshop Thanks Harry, much appreciated.
@stephenowen8445
@stephenowen8445 4 жыл бұрын
great test,been wanting to try this for a while and you have inspired me to give it a go, thanks
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers. If you find anything amazing, do let me know
@pabloramon768
@pabloramon768 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, thank you for the tip! Very useful
@SoerenGraves
@SoerenGraves 6 жыл бұрын
I have used the green compound that comes with the worksharp bit was npt happy with the result. Picked up a tube autosol today, and that is amazing sharpness and finish.
@Ricopolico
@Ricopolico 7 жыл бұрын
Well done! I do not know how many of those products are available here in the states, but I will. If nothing else, you have turned on a light bulb over other possibilities. Thanks much.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers! If you discover any gems, please come back and let me know
@ecaff9515
@ecaff9515 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for your time and effort...I will keep looking
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@MrMNRichardWright
@MrMNRichardWright 6 жыл бұрын
Always wondered how well car polish compounds would work. Thanks for sharing you time consuming tests and results
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Richard
@brianjohnston7855
@brianjohnston7855 6 жыл бұрын
Many years ago I acquired a plate glass hone that had previously been used with jeweller's rouge for finishing microtome knives in a microscopy lab. Unable to locally find a source of jeweller's rouge I ended up with a tube of Autosol which worked brilliantly for honing knives and chisels and I have been using that method ever since. I can very quickly achieve a mirror finish after sharpening on a 600 grit diamond plate. Thanks for the video. Brian
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Johnston Sounds a good setup Brian.
@philwiseman6989
@philwiseman6989 6 жыл бұрын
excellent video ..I have used some of these as well for polishing knife blades, and Autosol was one of the most impressive ..I also found T cut good but messy on a polishing wheel.. thanks for the video most interesting.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
Phil Wiseman Cheers Phil
@clemmcguinness1087
@clemmcguinness1087 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mitch. This'll do nicely :)
@BennyCFD
@BennyCFD 8 жыл бұрын
I think you're right in the different medium you can use as honing/stropping compounds. The real test is how well what you sharpen actually works as they are intended. evaluating the little scratch lines and comparing how shinny you can get it makes for a good video. The proof is in the pudding. I other than that a very informative video.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+BennyCFD Good point. Thankfully, once polished by whichever medium, the edge was like a razor.
@clemmcguinness1087
@clemmcguinness1087 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Really useful
@tikkidaddy
@tikkidaddy 6 жыл бұрын
Happich Semichrome, Flitz, Mothers mag and aluminum polish work like Autosol. I use small amounts as stropping compounds on full grain leather for knives. Clean and scrape out old compound with WD40 when they get loaded up heavy. Let dry and go again. Polishing is honing a flat or curved surface without changing angles essentially, until a given finish is desired. Also Barkeepers Friend is a finer abrasive than many cleansers like Ajax or Comet etc and works well if something is lightly rusted or pitted. Great video!
@tikkidaddy
@tikkidaddy 6 жыл бұрын
If it'll polish steel, it'll hone it.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mark, a lot of products I hadn't heard of which is great
@1955thekeeper
@1955thekeeper 6 жыл бұрын
There is a common product here in the states right off the shelf everyplace from your local hardware shop to Walmart called Brasso. It is a polishing compound that can bring out a reflective finish in a very short period of time. I have used it off and on for 45 years. Compare it to the others you have showcased here and see how it stacks up.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
Andy Anderson I remember that from when I was a child! I'll look out for it and have a go myself. Cheers
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using G6 car paint cutting compound and the results a amazing.
@robertbrunston5406
@robertbrunston5406 7 жыл бұрын
Good test! Thanks.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Robert
@sparkoceanic
@sparkoceanic 5 жыл бұрын
I've been brushing my teeth with the wrong stuff this whole time!
@AndreiIR000
@AndreiIR000 5 жыл бұрын
=))))))))
@nicholecrouch311
@nicholecrouch311 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO yes gt88 is the well kept secret the dentist didn't tell me about ether, repeat business
@tydshiin5783
@tydshiin5783 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny that a good few toothpaste does have a very very little of metal polish in them
@trevsutton8185
@trevsutton8185 9 жыл бұрын
I've used autosol for quite a while on my woodcarving chisels and knives so I thought that would be the one to beat , I sometimes finish off with a little carnauba wax on a buffing wheel! Don't know if it makes a massive difference but it's something I like to use. Another great video Mitch , keep up the good work. Trev
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Trev Sutton Cheers Trev. At least a hit with the wax will help against corrosion, if nothing else
@UnknownAudio
@UnknownAudio 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Mitch. Decision made - if I have no honing compound, from now on I will only use Autosol or GT88 for cleaning my teeth!!! No, seriously though, I had been wondering about honing compound substitutes - very useful.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+Unknown Audio Creations haha! A polished performance.
@chrisammann4041
@chrisammann4041 7 жыл бұрын
Mitch, I'd seen suggestions to use MDF for stropping before but I hadn't taken it seriously until I discovered your clip (and I'm a sucker for comparative videos anyway). I tried the Autosol on a block of MDF and it was a revelation - other compounds may have worked just as well but I didn't experiment with any others. I presume the firmness of the surface vs the give in leather strops is what makes the difference but I'm getting hair popping sharpness even on more challenging steels (well, challenging to me) like the ATS34 of my Benchmade 710. Blown away! Many thanks, Chris.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
That's great Chris! I've been trying leather strops for some white now, and after some initial disappointments I'm getting the same result as on the MDF. Personally I think the MDF is easier to get the hang of, so I happily recommend it.
@SharpEdgeWoodworking-UK
@SharpEdgeWoodworking-UK 9 жыл бұрын
Just my quick 2 pence worth.......I picked up a tube of Autosol to use on my stop a couple of years ago. I cant say that I am surprised that it has come out at the top of your experiment.....I too have had good results with this. Nice one Mitch.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Sharp Edge Woodworking Thanks, that's good to have backup to my findings.
@stevecollins9450
@stevecollins9450 9 жыл бұрын
Great test, Mitch.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Steve Collins Cheers Steve
@stylian.thingz
@stylian.thingz 6 жыл бұрын
this helped a lot thank you
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
allseasonCY Cheers
@peteswright
@peteswright 5 жыл бұрын
I tend to coat my strop with autosol and let it dry to a powder form. have you tried that? There's a data sheet stating that it contains Aluminum oxide. ATB.
@greenmarvel1871
@greenmarvel1871 3 жыл бұрын
Love metal work this was helpful. You definitely remind me of Logan! He would need to polish his metal claws. Awesome video 👍🏾
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Hugh Jackman is younger than me, so I'll take that comparison any day 😉
@greenmarvel1871
@greenmarvel1871 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitchwoodwork Is there anything that comes close to the GT88 that is natural?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
@@greenmarvel1871 undoubtedly there are natural abrasive particles small enough to make a polish, but I'm not sure what and where they are, sorry
@bramleybramley8365
@bramleybramley8365 7 жыл бұрын
I use Autosol on a piece of leather for all my woodworking tools as part of my sharpening routine. It provides a razor sharp edge and cleans up the faces. Most times an edge can be 'stropped' with Autosol with a few strokes to bring back the razor edge.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
That's a great system alright
@allandfmarques
@allandfmarques 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hugh Jackman :)
@brikinahonix
@brikinahonix 4 жыл бұрын
The Wolverine knows how to strop his claws
@jordanjones4834
@jordanjones4834 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@disconeil
@disconeil 9 жыл бұрын
I have always used wet and dry paper up to1200 grit on a piece of tempered glass and then honed my blades on a leather strop, first with AUTOSOL, then just leather alone. My blades may not be the most sharp but they are good enough for me and shave hairs off my arm with no effort. You made a very interesting film that I enjoyed. Thanks. N.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Neil George Cheers Neil. Why, I wonder, do we all test on arm hair?!
@disconeil
@disconeil 9 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, That my friend, is a very good question. N.
@dericcornflakes
@dericcornflakes 9 жыл бұрын
Mitch Peacock - WOmadeOD Because it's easy. You can see what you're doing and easy to control the blade. Arm hair shaves easier than beard too. At least for me. I'd hate to try a chisel on my face... cuts a brewing!
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
I guess chiselled features are not in this year!
@coltjansen
@coltjansen 6 жыл бұрын
I use leg hairs easier for me to access si ce i always wear pearl snap long sleevesw
@tonyswietochowski2282
@tonyswietochowski2282 2 жыл бұрын
I used Meguiar’s Ultimate Compound (car polish). Worked great. 👍
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@goggleuserunderduress9927
@goggleuserunderduress9927 6 жыл бұрын
helped me out,thanks
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@TheWoodKnight
@TheWoodKnight 9 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I wonder then if the finer grits of cheap ebay diamond pastes will be worth much compared to brasso/autosol/etc.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Paul Jenkins Yep, if anyone's tried them, please tell.
@TheWoodKnight
@TheWoodKnight 9 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, some arrived in the mail today. I'll try and do some testing this week!
@markfogleman8438
@markfogleman8438 8 жыл бұрын
+Paul “TheWoodKnight” Jenkins Any update? What are you using for a substrate?
@patchedupdemon7104
@patchedupdemon7104 9 жыл бұрын
Good test there some really usefull info.just a side note I'm amazed at the tormek stuff taking over 100 strokes. £5 ish 500g green silverline bar needs only 20-40 and in y opinion leaves a better mirror finish than what I saw the tormek did but as it's a video I may be wrong.anyway good vid.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
russell lowe Cheers Russel. Good call on the silverline bar, I do hear it's worth a try. As for my tests. I would ignore the actual number of strokes quoted, and just consider the comparison between numbers. The length and pressure of strokes would make comparison between different woodworkers results difficult to make. Also, the starting point would likely be different too.
@AndreiIR000
@AndreiIR000 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! It actually saved me money since I already owned an AUTOSOL tube and now I don't need to go buy actual honing compound since it seems to perform decent enough. One question though: Between MDF and HDF which would be better since I can't get my hand on some tough leather?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 4 жыл бұрын
Not tried HDF, although I suspect their face surfaces are similar. Someone suggested stacking MDF and using it edge on, which could hold more compound like leather.
@gilessteve
@gilessteve 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mitch. Interesting video. I would have been interested to see Brasso in the lineup. I think the particles in Brasso are even finer than those in Autosol.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
I thought I had some, but when I collected up the stuff I couldn't find it! It certainly is a contender from what I remember of how well it works on brass and chrome.
@adamwhiteson6866
@adamwhiteson6866 2 жыл бұрын
Nice bit of research. Thanks. I've had good results with AutoSol and Flitz - both are slower than Cr Ox or diamonds. I suspect that most automotive rubbing compounds would work well. Some abrasive compounds like that in toothpaste are, by design, soft so that they won't cut into the enamel and won't do anything to steel.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Yes, you are no doubt right about the toothpaste being soft.
@dericcornflakes
@dericcornflakes 9 жыл бұрын
You inspired me MItch. I'd been meaning to make a test like this for sometime. I didn't have the same products as you and none of your top 3. What I had was fiberglass cleaner, chrome cleaner and leather cleaner. The No. 7 Chrome Cleaner was far better than the fiberglass cleaner. I didn't expect anything from the ArmorAll Leathercare Gel but it cleaned up the scratches left by the Chrome Cleaner. I then tried it on a chisel that had only been on a rough India Stone. It would have taken awhile to get it at best with the leather cleaner but it did do a decent job in short order. After a few minutes I could shave the arm hairs. I really expected nothing from the Leather cleaner, I was quite surprised at the results. btw, Enkay green compound is not fine at all. I think Ajax would do better. On US Amazon the Tormek is the cheapest. Anxious to give that a try. I have nowhere local to buy any of your top 3 products so will have to buy online. I would imagine the Tormek will beat the leather cleaner easily. Still surprised at the results with Leather cleaner, if anyone has some give it a try. Maybe I'm imagining how well it worked.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
dericcornflakes That's interesting. I have some leather cleaner somewhere, so I'll dig it out. Thanks.
@brianleabo6295
@brianleabo6295 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the no bull video
@bananasquad5516
@bananasquad5516 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely useful
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@toonybrain
@toonybrain 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these comparisons. I heard another good tip of making a strop-like sharpener with the smooth side of leather. Apply valve grinding compound from an auto parts store.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
toOnybrain Thanks for the tip.
@chadrudolph1596
@chadrudolph1596 4 жыл бұрын
Tried it, way too coarse and messy.
@chadrudolph1596
@chadrudolph1596 4 жыл бұрын
Tried it, way too coarse and messy.
@chadrudolph1596
@chadrudolph1596 4 жыл бұрын
Tried it, way too coarse and messy.
@TaylerMade
@TaylerMade 9 жыл бұрын
and to think i have only used autosol for cleaning cast iron beds on the jointer, planer, saw and lathe bed. and it does an excellent job of keeping those surfaces rust free.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Tayler Made Now there's a good tip!
@stuartosborne6263
@stuartosborne6263 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mitch very interesting video, I wonder if Eucryl tooth powder would be worth trying as a polishing compound?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. I've not heard of that, but try it out if you have any.
@eddierodden
@eddierodden 4 жыл бұрын
Very good, might try some stuff on my rotary shaver and obviously clean thoroughly before use.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. Very fiddly job. Good luck
@eddierodden
@eddierodden 4 жыл бұрын
@@mitchwoodwork Just going to put some stuff in the top and switch on and maybe press on a flat surface, then clean, observe and test.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 4 жыл бұрын
@@eddierodden Do let me know if that works, it sounds so easy.
@eddierodden
@eddierodden 4 жыл бұрын
@@mitchwoodwork Will do, but might be a few days cos of Christmas etc.
@Kikilang60
@Kikilang60 7 жыл бұрын
Thank much.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@darrylportelli
@darrylportelli 3 жыл бұрын
When i grind the primary bevel, i then sharpen at a secondary bevel with just a few strokes on a 1000 grit (and maybe a few strokes on a higher stone) ... This takes only a few seconds but it means that every time i hone, i have to do much less passes for a polish .... After establishing the primary and secondary bevels , i keep my strop block and autosol beside me, and after using the chisel for some time , i strop the bevel and the back around 30 strokes ... This makes it cut hair again doing it over and over prolongs the need for resharpening
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. Similarly I only polish the very tip, creating a tiny tertiary bevel i guess.
@darrylportelli
@darrylportelli 3 жыл бұрын
Autosol on a piece of mdf works quite well for me
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@57dogsbody
@57dogsbody 6 жыл бұрын
Good 'ol Solvol Autosol. Been using it for so many things for over 40 years.
@hardnox6655
@hardnox6655 9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for doing this experiment. Coincidently, I was fooling around yesterday on this same subject. I used an automotive buffing compound on a cotton buffing wheel, then used the green rogue usually reserved for the leather strop. The results were amazing, and really quick. Is there any reason not to use a buffing wheel for a final polish?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Hardnox Hi Peter. I don't think there's any reason not to use a buffing wheel, so long as you do so in a way that isn't going to round-over edges, which is a possibility.
@hardnox6655
@hardnox6655 9 жыл бұрын
No worries Mitch, I used a surplus NASA spectron microscope to make sure that I don't. :) Seriously, I use the buffing wheel in a down stroke and go away from the edge. That way there's no issue with rollover. I stay off the very edge. My chisels and plane irons are like razors now. Thanks fo you.
@kennethmcdonald5278
@kennethmcdonald5278 2 жыл бұрын
Using a buffing wheel you will remove the temper because of too much heat , if you do use one , keep water near so when you are done you can remember it
@benvolio1987
@benvolio1987 9 жыл бұрын
Great video - I liked before o even watched it. Would be interesting to see how t-cut would have coped...
@benvolio1987
@benvolio1987 9 жыл бұрын
Benvolio Foster also brown paper - I'm told has an abrasive property that used to be used for honing back in the day
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Benvolio Foster Never tried that one!
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Benvolio Foster I had a bottle of T-Cut, but it has separated and wouldn't shake back to life, so it lost the chance.
@robertbefford4190
@robertbefford4190 5 жыл бұрын
Thats cool
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@D33Lux
@D33Lux 3 жыл бұрын
I found a silver polish pump spray for jewlery. It has aluminum oxide as one of the ingredients. I'm going to test it out.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like that should work
@tomthumb1671
@tomthumb1671 5 жыл бұрын
In AUs , I use, if I can not get green buff compound , I use as a back up , Brasso and Silvo which works great but is a liquid form and can be messy compare to green compound
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 5 жыл бұрын
Never heard of Silvo, but I know Brasso. Good to know it cuts tool steel.
@Tome4kkkk
@Tome4kkkk 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry for a slight OT. What grits of abrasive paper should I use for flattening 1000 and 3000 Japanese waterstones? BTW, I'm thinking of splitting my combination waterstone into separate plates. I don't like that I lose much of the slosh or contaminate the finer side when turning around the stone.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
I would say it depends on how out of flat they are. Test them with a straight edge. If there's a lot of dishing then start at 60grit until you get full coverage, then maybe finish with some 120 for the 1000 and 180 for the 3000. I flatten mine mostly with my coarse (800) stone.I've never separated a combination stone. What method are you planning on using?
@Tome4kkkk
@Tome4kkkk 7 жыл бұрын
I'm talking about maintenance flattening. Since Japanese waterstones may go out of flat even after maintenance sharpening of 3 wide chisels I figured I need to get my head around it and fast! Thank you for your answer! I used a wild guess and used 600 grit for all of it and for both sides. I'm planning on using some hot water with very slow (10-20 minutes) heating up of the stone. If it doesn't budge with slight wedging on the side, I won't force it further. I haven't figured out what I'm going to use as backing. I've got some float glass but I don't have a cutter.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Tome4kkkk Good luck. Let me know how you get on
@das250250
@das250250 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting to know the avg costs of the two best and the benchmark control materials
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 5 жыл бұрын
Seem to remember Tormek honing paste was about three times as much as the Autosol or GT80
@andrewryan1203
@andrewryan1203 7 жыл бұрын
Mothers mag and aluminum polish makes a mirror finish and pretty fast on a pocket knife only takes 20 passes for a scalpel sharp edge.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cool tip, cheers!
@banjopete
@banjopete 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Ryan , good for headlights as well.
@eastyboyisme
@eastyboyisme 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great experiment, Most of those brands aren't sold off shelf in New Zealand. But Autosol is thankfully. Regarding the toothpaste I thought it would have worked great but no? At least the chisels would smell nice haha
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
Cheers Joe. I guess the abrasives required to remove plaque aren't hard enough for steel - probably just as well!
@farstrider79
@farstrider79 8 жыл бұрын
+Mitch Peacock - WOmadeOD often they are plastic micro particles so they don't damage tooth enamel.
@gilessteve
@gilessteve 7 жыл бұрын
BTW, micro beads have just been banned in the UK because of their adverse effects on the marine environment.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
The micro beads might be what prevents any fine abrasive working, since they will hold the surfaces apart
@porkchopspapi5757
@porkchopspapi5757 5 жыл бұрын
Confused. I though you said the ajax powder was best?
@jonabaker
@jonabaker 8 жыл бұрын
Could you achieve the same with pulverized wood coal?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+JoboBlevins I have no idea - worth a try though. Cheers
@WitchburnerPhD
@WitchburnerPhD 7 жыл бұрын
Before i bought an actual compound i tried to think of what i could use that has the most in common with stropping compound. I ended up rubbing candle wax on a piece of leather for a strop and it actually worked surprisingly well. However, I don't think there's really too much out there that will polish a blade as good or even really close to how good actual compound will. Honestly if you want to strop a knife or any metal just buy some compound, even cheep compound works good and you can pick some up for under $10 online so there really is no reason not to get any.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Was it a coloured candle? I can't think of any hard enough particles in pure paraffin wax that would abrade steel. Mind you stropping on plain leather is often recommended after using compound.I agree that cheap compounds can work well - as well as expensive ones on occasions - but some regions just don't seem to have them readily available, whereas car care and cleaning products seem more widespread.cheers, Mitch
@WitchburnerPhD
@WitchburnerPhD 7 жыл бұрын
No the candles wen't colored and now that i think of it it may have just been putting a waxy sheen on the blade rather than actually polishing the metal. And ya I know how hard it can be to get compound in some situations. Here in New Brunswick i went to all kinds of hardware stores and knife stores and couldn't find any compound, I even jewelry stores to see if they had any jewelers polish but no luck. That's why I ended up having to order it online.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, the good old days where all you ever needed was available in the high street are well and truly gone
@carlbeaudry4142
@carlbeaudry4142 3 жыл бұрын
Question if you're still around what do I use the strop on to sharpen woodturning tools on?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
I would use blue polishing compound to charge a leather strop. It's cheap and very effective. I often hear turners say that they prefer the tool straight from the grind stone though. I don't turn much, but for me a polished edge is preferable.
@8thsinner
@8thsinner 7 жыл бұрын
You need to use smokers toothpaste, with as much bicarbonate trace as possible. It's a far better aggressor than colgate. With a felt wheel it will mirror polish but still takes a bit of time. I am surprised you didn't try brasso to be honest. It's quite good. But I am going to have a look out for that scratch remover gt88 Thank you for the education.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers. I did dig out my Brasso, but it had dried out (well it is 30yrs old or more).
@8thsinner
@8thsinner 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, might be time for a new tin then.
@annapeterson5897
@annapeterson5897 7 жыл бұрын
Turtle Wax Rubbing Compound for heavy use works real well.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Good tip, thanks!
@nicholecrouch311
@nicholecrouch311 4 жыл бұрын
I tried some turtle wax but i guess i wasn't using the same type as you because i didn't get hardly any results to speak of, is the kind you used the buffing compound or does it have a specific name besides the turtle wax brand name? They got like 5 different kinds at my local store
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever tried Silver polishing paste or Brasso metal polish?
@garvielloken3929
@garvielloken3929 Жыл бұрын
Nooice!
@robertfreeze7593
@robertfreeze7593 2 жыл бұрын
What about 'Orange Power' ? (The hand scrub commonly found in garages/ shops)
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 2 жыл бұрын
Never tried it. Although I believe most scrubs use sodium chloride as the abrasive, which isn't so hard.
@AugustoCampos_pt
@AugustoCampos_pt 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Mitch Peacock - WOmadeOD Thanks for the nice informative video. One question, I see a lot of woodworkers use a block wood with a leather strip and then the honing compound, Will the leather improve any of the products you use? Thanks
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Augusto Campos Thanks Augusto. I think you should wait for a video I have planned for an answer to that!
@AugustoCampos_pt
@AugustoCampos_pt 9 жыл бұрын
Mitch Peacock - WOmadeOD OK, I will be waiting :D
@vodcc4463
@vodcc4463 6 жыл бұрын
I really like the results i get from using Autosol, but it smells like petrol fumes and burnt rubber, how's the smell with the Tormek compund?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
The Tormek compound has a slight smell. I can't place it, but I don't find it unpleasant.
@Boomers_Bud
@Boomers_Bud 9 жыл бұрын
A great topic Mitch. I have a bunch of sharpening to get done today. I have put it off too long.........again. LOL Derek
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
GiddyUp994 Capital offence! 4yrs hard labour
@Boomers_Bud
@Boomers_Bud 9 жыл бұрын
Yes " Edge Master "...... as you command ! I suppose it will not help my case that I have everything sharpened up now ?? Right.... ya not going to happen is it ? I will report back to the shop and serve my sentence.
@SteS
@SteS 5 жыл бұрын
Cutting compound. Available from 1500 to 3000 grit. Works wonders.
@megalodonscortex7578
@megalodonscortex7578 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what video I have seen that green compound is pretty much green crayon. Is any of that is true? Help please.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 4 жыл бұрын
Never bought it myself, but I've used it elsewhere in the past. It clearly has some abrasive in it as it does polish, but I'm not sure if it's hard enough to work effectively on tool steel. These block polishes are mainly a waxy carrier, so maybe that's where the crayon idea comes from
@sheltermonkey6065
@sheltermonkey6065 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Your toothpaste results confirm mine: no result. The reason is that aluminum oxide has been entirely eliminated as an ingredient in toothpastes in the US. I use Mother's Metal Polish which is cheap and readily available here.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@sheltermonkey6065
@sheltermonkey6065 4 жыл бұрын
@@mitchwoodwork My video on toothpaste vs. metal polish is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oau8aWOne8p4gdk
@robertoorozco679
@robertoorozco679 5 жыл бұрын
Greetins from mazatlan sin mex.where did you buy this green grease And tell me the name please.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 5 жыл бұрын
The best were from automotive supply stores. Sold as chrome polish, etc.
@davogifman542
@davogifman542 6 жыл бұрын
Try silicone dust mixed with any lotion perhaps even dishwashing liquid as well. Now I'm not talking about silica beads the absorbing agent,but the actual silicone dust. I think that may work great. Maybe.... lol
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 6 жыл бұрын
Is that found in clay?
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 8 жыл бұрын
Autosol is a great product . I have a simular domestic product called starclean I think it's actually only a rebadge.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+rimmersbryggeri Thanks, I hadn't heard of that one. Which country is that available in?
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 8 жыл бұрын
Mitch Peacock - WOmadeOD I bouht iot in sweden. It's kind of a home shopping tv / street market type product might be available under other names in the UK but it's basiacally autosol rebadged for the housewife. I don't know if they have infomercials running on loop in places like halfords over there typicak products marketed being Car Wax, domestic cleaning products and small trinkets liek clingfilm cutters or Jar lid grabbing things (lever with a rubber belt). In sweden they do that and also for frying pans and knives in grocery stores.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+rimmersbryggeri I'll look out for it, thanks
@MCGEE1115
@MCGEE1115 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of trying polishing rouge like you use on a buffer, it's cheap and comes in many grits. Has anyone tried it? Thanks
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 5 жыл бұрын
The blue polishing compound is great and cheap. Not sure if the rouge will cut hardened tool steel, as I haven't tried it
@jakobhovman
@jakobhovman 8 жыл бұрын
Hello Mitch...have enjoyed your Down to earth videos...for some time...Thank You...! This test is well done... and easy to reproduce by anyone. Lots of info also...in the comments...!I learned early...that one of the cheapest...and always around honing compound...is the smear leftover...from the stone or plate. The particles left are smal...and mixed with the steel leftovers. I think...you will need a piece of leather for this...for the particles to embed( have not tried the mdf for a long time). The plant "Horsetail"-"Snakegrass"-"(Equisetum) is a well known abrasive...it contains silica...will polish both Wood and iron. A final note for now: Toothpaste is a great (superfine) plastic polisher. I have polaroid sunglasses and glasses...and the finer scratches...have been removed...!PS: Do not use Autosol on your glasses...! Greetings.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+Jakob Hovman Thank you Jakob. Some useful information there. I'll be googling Equisetum and looking out for it - sounds fun. Cheers, Mitch
@friedmule5403
@friedmule5403 7 жыл бұрын
If this wasn't from you I would newer have trusted the advice!:-)
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Which are you going to try yourself?
@friedmule5403
@friedmule5403 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering and asking, I would like to try what you recommend, but I am living in Denmark and most of the products don't exists here, do you have a recommendation on what type, fore what use I shall look?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Try chrome polish for cars, or cutting compound for refinishing car paint.
@friedmule5403
@friedmule5403 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I'll do that:-)
@neogeo1670
@neogeo1670 4 жыл бұрын
I like autosol very well, always gives me a shaving sharp edge
@dorshem-tov2470
@dorshem-tov2470 7 жыл бұрын
this is really cool really thank you for making this video i used the car polish and it worked ok + then i ordered a small block of green compound from ebay wich actually costs exactly the same for pretty much the same amount as the car polish but actually works a little better, not here to troll just to share what i got to try and compare have a nice day
@dorshem-tov2470
@dorshem-tov2470 7 жыл бұрын
just to tickle your intrest i used them both on a denim, jeans, and fake leather strops (im vegan so i wanted a vegan strop), jeans and pleather work suprisingly good, denim requires u to use thick denim preferbly from old pants and u have to use a few layers because the glue soaks in hardening the denim but it can work.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
That's a good tip, thanks!
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
I read your second comment first, and I'm wondering whether the alternatives to leather hold the abrasive particles differently, making the finer (car metal polish) less effective. Anyway, it just shows that you can find a combination that's works well, and that's all that matters
@dorshem-tov2470
@dorshem-tov2470 7 жыл бұрын
Mitch Peacock - WOmadeOD that's true for pleather because its not absorbent at all and for the denim because it absorbs it too much, problems I did not have with the compound jeans has the delicate balance between the two others but with the compound I like the plether best
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Dor shem-tov Apparently denim stacked together makes a good polishing mop too
@chad93951
@chad93951 7 жыл бұрын
try using a dime size amount of turtle wax polishing compound mixed with a bit of alcohol
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers, will do
@chadrudolph1596
@chadrudolph1596 4 жыл бұрын
White ceramic floor tile will polish. Ragweed Forge has cheap 6" ceramic sharpening stones, about 2K grit. Cheap diamond paste and a dremel buffer leaves a mirror finish on an extremely hard tungsten carbide ring. A pound of green compound will last forever. Shuangxin (bull pic) diamond paste syringe, soluble oil, 1.5 micron, $1 ebay Woodstock D2902 Green extra fine buffing compound, 1lb, $12 amazon, 4.6 stars
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips!
@hardrock1826
@hardrock1826 7 жыл бұрын
There is a toothpaste for smokers, it has an abrasive quality to it, I've used it to brush the dogs teeth, works great. I have used Brasso, but be careful with that, don't use in an enclosed environment and wear a proper mask for fumes not just dust. Inhale the fumes from that stuff for awhile you may get a headache and be seeing spacemen.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's good info'
@-Pol-
@-Pol- 4 жыл бұрын
Would Brasso work as well on my cat's teeth?
@alecbruyns4490
@alecbruyns4490 7 жыл бұрын
Try Peek Polish. I use it on a lot of things.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Alec
@androidgameplays4every13
@androidgameplays4every13 8 жыл бұрын
Are any of these products better than chromium oxide compound?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
The best here will produce a mirror finish easily, as can Cr oxide. I don't have the optics to confirm whether the resulting finish from either is finer than the other.
@Jamessmith-ks8qx
@Jamessmith-ks8qx 9 жыл бұрын
Patiently waiting for toolmake15 draw.....
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
James smith That's lucky, as I've been too tied up to think about it this weekend ;-) Soon!
@Painterdudeus
@Painterdudeus 9 жыл бұрын
You said MDF but it is oak vaneer with open grain prob. not as good.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Mike Schmitz That's an interesting point Mike. It does have a barely noticeable texture, unlike MDF. I should have used the Tormek control on that as well. Having said that, comparison between all the test subjects should stand scrutiny. It might be interesting to compare the same compound on both the bare MDF and the oak veneer, to see how they stack up. Cheers, Mitch
@porkchopspapi5757
@porkchopspapi5757 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, I watched again.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doubling the viewing stats 😉
@rolfkostka3992
@rolfkostka3992 3 жыл бұрын
Autosomal I’ve been using to razor sharpen knives, the only way to go.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@NaihanchinKempo
@NaihanchinKempo 8 жыл бұрын
A woodworkers may have Rottenstone power used to polish wood finishes
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
Good point. I haven't tried that. thanks ☺
@partick92
@partick92 5 жыл бұрын
Can i use cif?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 5 жыл бұрын
You can try it. If it has a tough abrasive in it then it will cut the metal, and if it's fine enough that will polish.
@yogililly884
@yogililly884 7 жыл бұрын
but wish are food safe?, to polish a knife that then is used in cutting apple slices for ypu and your child....
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Yogi Lilly Simple answer is probably none, BUT they all wipe/wash off so that you can avoid any contamination
@oldsoul5263
@oldsoul5263 7 жыл бұрын
Lapping compound? or am i thinking of something else?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, same thing. Just curious what alternatives are available
@JerrySwatsell
@JerrySwatsell 6 жыл бұрын
You mean like for mating metals such as a valve to a valve seat...IE Cloverleaf Compound? I would think that if it was of a fine enough grit that it wouldn't matter.
@sachem54
@sachem54 9 жыл бұрын
Just found out an emergency supply - thanx.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Ralph J Boumenot Cheers Ralph.
@sachem54
@sachem54 9 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos a lot.
@tonypenachio6267
@tonypenachio6267 7 жыл бұрын
Automotive Rubbing Compound is The Best...Hands Down..!!!! :>)
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Tony
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@loganstevenson8485 3 жыл бұрын
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@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
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@abdelmajidamal145
@abdelmajidamal145 2 жыл бұрын
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@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@chrisbernal4354
@chrisbernal4354 5 жыл бұрын
Wolverine is that you ? Lol
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 5 жыл бұрын
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@dwayne6402
@dwayne6402 4 жыл бұрын
Vim cleaner with bleach gave me good results
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 4 жыл бұрын
How's that on the hands ;-) I might try it with gloves
@dwayne6402
@dwayne6402 4 жыл бұрын
@@mitchwoodwork It can tend to dry out your hands so some surgical gloves might not be a bad idea. But it is a bit gritty it does give a good polish to my chisels.
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