Honkai Star Rail Fans Are LOSING FAITH After 3.0 Update...

[@morekazahana]

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[@ArpTakaoTTV]

i personally love the story inspired from Greek and etc... i personally enjoy hsr 3.0 more then the recent genshin update the cap part was the best silverwolf also lost her home due to cali fire

[@sarahtelles1931]

Still going through the story. I was a day late because of Cookierun Kingdoms update and my gosh I wasn't going to miss out on Shadow Milk cook is part of his beast yeast

[@2soteu]

Does CN side like this? Wondering if it's a cultural thing because like a lot of other people on global side it's just not for me. It's more enjoyable when I watch it with a cc on twitch because they bring the extra interest. WuWa 2.0 story pacing felt a lot better for me. Wasn't even really my favorite kind of story, but I still didn't take a break with exploration until after I finished the story because the pacing was just so nice for me, personally.

[@daniii_BH]

Belobog is still the best region based on story, it didn't drag, it was short and amazing.

[@GoriborthGaming]

Yes! 100% agree, after this all went downhill quickly.

[@pinger1669]

ZZZ 1.4 and Wuwa 2.0 are levels above HSR’s 3.0. How is that possible 😭

[@Algo_de_Alguem]

Hoyoverse, friend

[@huyle-ob8rg]

because hsr refuse to give the skip button, so you have to sit through all of it with both bad parts and good parts. If fgo doesn't have a skip button, then you have to watch getting ntr/cuck by a furry

[@GoriborthGaming]

Cant say anything about zzz as i dont play it but wuwa devs actually listen to players giving feedback unlike hoyoverse. Thats why.

[@CrescentTheWolf]

I’ve been curious about ZZZ, love the style and animations but the fact that it’s a hoyo game puts me off, only a matter of time before it becomes like the rest.

[@phantomblade89]

@ ZZZ is a very bone dry game, I call it a ten minute game. I spend more time playing the arcade games in ZZZ, then actually playing ZZZ. There's hardly anything to do.

[@razornad1299]

They TELL not SHOW

[@DanielKurtz-d2w]

Showing costs money, so we can't do that, lol

[@ThomasAndy-qu8dp]

@@DanielKurtz-d2w yeah, they're a small indie company, cut them some slacks.

[@SoulBladeZero]

To be fair. If they did that, then the storage space of HSR might skyrocket

[@razornad1299]

@@SoulBladeZero really ..... then what black magic wuwa is doing bcs they can show what they're talking and it only cost 22gb on phone

[@krissis00]

Fr fr

[@kitanat9944]

The problem is that the longer and more story they make, the more they want people to experience it (as well as boost engagement numbers). If I made a long story with a lot of intricacies and lore, I’d want people to read it all too. Unfortunately, that’s no excuse to force people to do so. Some people tolerate this because they’re willing to sit and listen, and have the time. Just because you can doesn’t mean everyone else should have to. Even visual novels have a skip button. I know it sucks to have your art skipped but you should never have to force people to watch your stuff.

[@pravum3150]

Even eroge from the 2000s made by one person has a skip button. Why cant a multi billion dollar company have one?

[@ericx6969]

because it insults the writer lol

[@Susumi...]

I feel if you as a writer get offended from someone skipping the story you made, pack it up, this ain't the industry for you

[@Satyr42]

I'm going to say now that the story DOES NOT get better later on. I have a lot of free time on my hands right now so I tried to push through the story as fast as possible. About 12+ in and it is STILL not finished. So much needless talking, endless jargon clusterfuck and unnecessarily long winded puzzle section. It's getting on my nerves. This game needs a skip button AND better story writers.

[@pravum3150]

Jesus, 12 hours thats the lenght of a AAA title that has an actual good story and constant gameplay.

[@Gabjnr07]

​@@pravum3150If hoyo fanboys could read they would be mad at you

[@EncoreBesti]

Yet ur only stating something that lacks evidence if u don't think the story won't get better but I agree with the other things you said they got to do better

[@dreamsandhopes6802]

12+ hours? It took me like 11 with an hour and a half break, but yeah even that crap is diabolical

[@mr.edelweiss]

​@@Gabjnr07 but hoyo fanboys can read they just don't take valid criticism because they haven't experienced that much in their life since hoyoverse/mihoyo has created this beautiful world

[@ggease6030]

HSR hasn’t learned from penacony… people don’t like yapping, especially 10 hours of it 🤦‍♂️ Ruins the fact that the lore in Amphoreus is genuinely good

[@pinger1669]

@@gamerbeast3616A story game with horrible storytelling is a bad story game.

[@huyle-ob8rg]

@@gamerbeast3616 Visual novel has better qol and I'm crying about. I'm such a loser for calling multi-million company bad.

[@i_dont_have_a_youtube_chan8584]

​@@gamerbeast3616A story game with no story replay

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

@@gamerbeast3616 H3rd is also a story game, but it has a skip button for those who want to skip it.

[@HazardTone]

Octopath Traveller is also a story game ​and a pixel one at that. And it's still 1000x better than HSR@@gamerbeast3616

[@richtofenify]

What years of glazing does to game devs. "Even if we lose some players, the majority will eat the new slop". Just you wait, the SKIP option will be requested as bread within few days. HP inflation and powercreep? Thats Hoyoverse trademark

[@akura6674]

It was fun, but the story being soooooo loooong that I can watch a youtube for an hr and the story auto play still isn't finished killed it for me, quit the game after the wolf girl with the axe.

[@Xoe_1571]

erm actually shes a FOXian 🤓 lmao your good bro I would quit too but meh.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

It's long because this is meant to introduce us to Amphorous. The entire Story will cover 8 patches. The length of time is no bother as they really are setting up what we will be dealing with for the first half of the Saga.

[@erdragon99]

@@Xoe_1571half Borisin

[@huyle-ob8rg]

@@silverhawkscape2677 If it needs that much time to introduce us to Amphorous, when tons of AAA games and visual novel can do much less, then it's not that great

[@lactoseman]

@@huyle-ob8rg that guy is a huge hoyoshill. he'll defend their garbage games no matter what they do. its fun watching them squirm now that people are finally waking up to hoyo's bs thanks to wuwa

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

HSR is my favorite alongside Wuwa. That's the reason I want it to get better. As someone who defended the Penacony story, the unnecessary things that happen in-between the interesting things really kills the mood in 3.0. the cutscenes are also way too short. The story is really interesting but the storytelling is terrible. Even the most hardcore HSR players has the same sentiment. I really hope they take the criticism. I have hope in the HSR devs, as they give lots QOL in the game whenever the players ask for it. Also hope for a skip button, as I want to start an alt account...

[@kizuki2650]

Hsr really need a skip button the story is too long

[@Oscar303063]

This update honestly is on the same level of the story of WuWa 1.0

[@roslanhaikal7242]

actually it even worse

[@chalips3870]

not played yet, is it THAT bad??

[@Huiyu136]

@@roslanhaikal7242 True, i can't stand with how tribbie shows up just like slide of powerpoint, first it comes her voice, and then she already stand there with us. lol. in wuwa 1.0 there is no way ugly movement like that eaxist.

[@adnanbillychrysostome7003]

WuWa 1.0 was still smoother in my opinion. There is just too much yapping in HSR 3.0 and you couldn't do nothing

[@Satyr42]

@@roslanhaikal7242 Agreed. It's terrible. The developers learned nothing from previous patches.

[@AquaSkyclamp]

As much as I love the Greco-Roman theming and setting, I was actually clock-watching by the end of my first run-through of 3.0. (I don't think I'll be updating my second account anytime soon, though.) Lord have mercy, the pacing. Everything started to drag by the time I got to the final act. For reference, I could skip the stories I didn't quite get into in Reverse:1999, and take my time with the ones I do like. In 3.0, I felt like I was just going through the motions by the end. I wanted to jump to the "big finish" and get it over with.

[@theoDSP]

The Herta is pretty decent but I'm not pulling for her anytime soon since powercreeping is so bad the next character is going to superseed her fast.

[@giovanni1166]

But if you think like that there is no point to pull at all, I'm start to thinking tha is better hyperinvest in the character you like than follow the meta, I mean , I'd you have acheron E2 S1 with supp she will still be good

[@trollmc3454]

Actually there's some kind of weird but reliable pattern about which characters will become better or will stay in meta for very long. In 2.0, devs really pushed the 2.x emanator(Acheron) and the break teams in the early of 2.x and shifted their focus on follow ups later. I'm assuming it's going to be the same as 2.x. TheHerta(3.x emanator) probably will stay in the meta for almost all 3.x versions. Devs themselves said they are making endgame-contents to focus more on erudition characters. And remembrance is the whole point of 3.x so TheHerta(emanator) and remembrance units are in the spotlight.

[@tragiciansmagician4186]

YES YEESSS, COME HEATHEN, COME TO THE DEPTHS, JOIN US IN WUWA Jokes aside, I find the whole "Hoyo is a shit company" discourse making its rounds every chinese new year so hilarious. Next year this time ZZZ will be on the "Kill Hoyoverse" list. I hope I am wrong

[@phantomblade89]

WUWA story better get flipping infinitely better or I'm leaving that genshin copy. I never played a game where I give zero shits about the charcaters besides Encore (she's a good girl)

[@tragiciansmagician4186]

@phantomblade89 i mean there's no large incentive to get into their stories because they don't really give you much backstory. Just a world and its story and some characters to roam it with. The most important story is the main story, and some characters fall into that main story like Jinhsi and Shorekeeper. They really stepped it up with Rinascita because it's gotten easier to digest the story. Also calling it a Genshin copy really invalidates all the actual effort and work put into the game to make it what it is today. It's more of an improvement over Genshin in multiple aspects

[@krissis00]

at this point they better stop making games and focus on pure animation so we can actually see a cool story develop the way it should

[@smananderson09]

The only problem i have with HSR is just so much talking like why don't we have a skip button I don't want to hear all this yapping

[@smananderson09]

@gamerbeast3616 so is wuwa but I can skip that so what's your point😐

[@amari7782]

@@gamerbeast3616there’s countless story based gacha with skip buttons. Hell limbus company Arknights and fgo are practically 90% story content yet they still have skip buttons and actually have good stories compared to hsr

[@huyle-ob8rg]

@@gamerbeast3616 so does every visual novel games that has ever existed, but look at how dumb I am for calling out multi-million company.

[@pinger1669]

@@smananderson09he’s a troll don’t get baited

[@gekidan7464]

There should be an option to skip the story 7hrs of skipping is insane when the alternative is adding a button that lets you skip 7hrs of clicking

[@zgmf-x20astrikefreedom21]

I'm still not done w/ the story since I'm taking my time after finding out that it's 10-hour long, but I have a nagging feeling that I'm missing something that was story-locked 😑

[@tigermk3554]

I must admit, Wuthering Waves 2.0 has set the standard too high for most of Hoyoverse Games to catch up XD

[@amari7782]

In terms of story telling most popular gacha prior to genshin release had better stories than anything modern hoyo and wuwa. Hell you can find gacha with better stories than wuwa HSR ahd genshin without any effort

[@david_ace]

@@amari7782 can u cite one ? (hi3 is not in the equation)

[@amari7782]

@@david_ace for good story Fgo, Arknights, limbus company ( modern) pgr, counterside, weirdly enough games like blue archive, reverse 1999(modern) The only thing the big 4 have over the listed games are 3d visuals

[@ericx6969]

copium

[@david_ace]

@@amari7782 fair, i heard about limbus company. i know about fate and watch arknight anime (if the anime follow the game) so yea they are all good even if fate story telling is a bit..weird. but all the game u cited are also VN, so they have to make a good story to keep ppl engaged. wuwa story is good, you might even say mid. but let's be honest their story telling and makings are really good. and that is enough to put their story on higher standard

[@DanielVega-mr8tl]

Were we expecting them to just throw us into an entirely new map and just not give background on it? I thought the story was compelling but it isn’t for everyone! I love the Greek mythology stuff so maybe it’s not everyone’s cup of tea but like exploring and the new puzzles and the new enemies and shit was dope!

[@TacticalDimples]

lol exposition dumps are a problem in any media… don’t defend this. Sure, you might be okay with it for now, but it becomes annoyingly repetitive when they keep doing it. They have the ability to improve the way they implement exposition (see ZZZ), but choose not to. It’s lazy.

[@amari7782]

They literally threw us into belobog with no context, they threw us into the loufu without much context, same with penacony. The problem is that that you can introduce a new area without excessive yapping

[@shinobi9606]

The reason they dont add a skip button is to waste time, thats hoyos' tactic. The more time they make you waste the longer you end up playing the game and the better it looks for them cause they can whip out the chart and be like "Look our games are good cause look at how much time the average player spends!" When 70% of that time spent playing is being stuck in unskipable cutscenes.

[@roslanhaikal7242]

glad i left at 2.6

[@NamelessAddy]

7:46 The lack of Audio for the characters is just plain dumb, like this is the main Trailblazing quests. If these were the side quests, it might be ok. But for the main quests to receive this treatment is so sad

[@agunkorea2995]

Hoyo : Lets create turn based game inspired from kiseki. Their story style is tell more than showing. So more texts. Also hoyo writer : Yapyapyapyap, to fill the words quota. If not, i wont get money. Who cares about worldbuilding 💀

[@zrph1]

I was so so disappointed in the new update, played it the second the maintenance finished and then completed it at like 6AM next day (I’m cali,). It was so damn fucking boring man, Mihoyo does this thing, where the entire, I MEAN entire middle of act 1 to the middle of act 3 is just the most boring shit ever. 10 fucking hours. 10 hours, I can play long games, I finished persona 5 in a week, but by everything that is holy if the quest was even 15 minutes longer I would’ve never finished the quest. Then have a pretty good ending, they need an editor to really trim down the story. I don’t know what type of staff they got, but they need an editor really. Half of the dialogues are repeats of the same information, the other 25% is just exposition dumps, and the last are important but are so sandwiched between the other filler 75% you don’t even care if it is important because you’d just think it’s filler. I’m so damn fucking disappointed with the 3.0 update, I’ve been a day 1 player and I just don’t know if I will play through the story again

[@tdof7217]

Didn't even refresh the jade top ups, they had no faith

[@rapturite7237]

Last cycle they refreshed top-up's in 2.1. Probably a similar thing here.

[@einekleine7805]

They tell not show in the Lazy way also, holy yappy😅😅

[@themadderhatter8528]

Honestly at least for what I experienced this story wasnt THAT bad??? Especially in comparison to everything else, i think a lot of this may be more related to growing resentment towards hoyo iself and now the expectations have changed. Also, its literally the introduction tk a whole new world with its own lore and ongoing plot? Like im just wondering how some of these people got through basic literature classes if the cant handle exposition. Plus imho we get into the main conflict WAY faster than any other prior quest. And ive seen people complaining about not getting certain answers or some things not making sense, like??? Yea thats kinda the point of *checks notes* set up and payoff. Pike if this was such an issue, Where was this with acheron? Or Adventurine? Or how about the entirety of penacony and esp the watchmaker? Tldr; a lot of this feels like hat wagoning to a degree and is more about resentment towards hoyo themselves rather than actually criqueing the content of the story itself as compared TO itself. Edit: Ive seen some comments talking about "they tell dont show" and some with "if hsr fans could read" Like yall realize those are direct conflictions right? Are you mad at there being a lot of exposition content for the FIRST PART a new story, or is it that its too much reading. Cause for some of you it seems like yall live in a glass house.

[@amari7782]

Because most games don’t spend 10hrs on just an introduction. It’s about the presentation, you can cut down on a lot of exposition by just showing. As for the second half it’s simple HSR players don’t actually know what they want cuz one half is defending the game the other half have actual criticism

[@MajesticONE-ds4zt]

I have no complain of how the story telling is, i just want them to make a longer cutscene just like in Hi3rd to payoff the long yapping.

[@damii_11]

Genshinitis is slowly creeping in and infesting hsr 😂😂😂

[@natsu_1325]

Glad i dropped the game early

[@pravum3150]

Dropped in 1.0 😂 i could see the writing on the walls

[@Mystra]

No one actually cares if you guys dropped the game in 1.0 or when. You're not contributing to even a baseline discussion. Waste of space comments.

[@pravum3150]

@@Mystra Comments are an open discussion and people can say whatever they want. Getting butt hurt is a choice 😂 Policing comments is a worse choice.

[@Mystra]

@pravum3150 Yeah it's very open for you to leave stupid comments. You're good at that :)

[@pravum3150]

@@Mystra You're hurting nothing but your own ego pal. You came here, made yourself look like the comments police and now you're resorting to insults. That says a lot about yourself.

[@Lillian404]

I had fun with the story, but god it took me way to long to finish

[@Requiem20]

So mucy yap .very little cut scenes.. honestly thinking about deleting...hsr not worth time..and why mc and dan heng is not voiced... it's terrible totally ruined my experience.😮

[@vstampde8066]

Dawei May Cry , again ?

[@melisdart]

here it is the solution A FUKING SKIP BUTTON FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

[@ziyansenpai2987]

bro i started the game and played the new story but the continous yapping i hate it, felt bore just after playing for 1hr , there are many unnecessary yapping, they didnt learn from the past penacony mistake

[@Mystra]

This might be silly but a video about how gacha communities don't have reading comprehension is actually needed. You can not even be defending, or even mentioning a game, yet you're defending it or shilling for it, I guess by the nature of just being in the comments of the video? I guess what we write don't matter. This isn't about the creator btw. If you're offended by this, I'm probably talking about you the reader.

[@ronishastroud8891]

Hoyo need to follow the rule of show don't tell. Telling everything is like treating the audience like they are stupid which makes it bad story telling

[@phantomblade89]

so you can't read and only learn by visuals. gen z to now are going to be some dumb lazy unintellgent parents, looking for the day to mock your children.

[@TheHashSlingingSlicer07]

even AAA game with better story and story telling than any gacha game have skip button

[@amirridzuannnnn]

Things i hate about hsr now, boring story telling, shitty hp inflation.

[@amari7782]

@@gamerbeast3616da Wei sure did

[@quietguyjosh4643]

​​@@gamerbeast3616he has legitimate criticism You have nothing of value to add These games can and should be better Stop defending a multi-billion dollar company

[@kizuki2650]

@@gamerbeast3616dawei may cry The game of the year

[@Algo_de_Alguem]

These tweets arent real. Everyone knows everyone will keep playing

[@Foreverie13]

Really need a Skip button. People who say HSR doesn't need a Skip button are crazy

[@mr.edelweiss]

*You are crazy!!* *Blacks screens 𝘍𝘢𝘯𝘣𝘰𝘺 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘺 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘢 𝘤𝘳𝘢𝘻𝘺 𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘢 𝘵𝘰 𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘢 𝘚𝘬𝘪𝘱 𝘣𝘶𝘵𝘵𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘮𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘧 𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘣𝘫𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘧𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘴

[@sarahtelles1931]

it's not even the full story yet. At least not the full story on Amphoreus.

[@WildArmsV]

Im loving it, got click baited

[@dalhaval283]

After zzz 1.4, i expected greatness from the others, Wuwa 2.0 did great, but it looks like its only these 2?

[@ItsMe_SaiYuri]

yea NGL the long yapping and some character's missing voicelines kills the mood and the only thing that keep me entertained is MC's smartass repllies on every situation😅😅 yess all new characters look so beautiful but they gotta do something on their storytelling and not to mention i felt (and many players) that adventurine was suddenly nerfed.. pls hoyo dont make me hate this game

[@silverhawkscape2677]

No. They fixed the Bug. Pretty sure of that.

[@phantomblade89]

Adventurine has a bug

[@etherealmoon7169]

I'm honestly enjoying the story (just not how long it is), wished Danheng can talk again lol but Phainon made up for it (the one time where he gets a lot of screen time, he's silent) I will say the part where they were explaining the history in the public bath place was where it peaked my interest. The deep voice of the narrator was perfect with the delivery but then the game was like "you dont like the speaker? Lets tailor it to how you like it" and then this high pitch, ear-bleeding causing voice started explaining the history instead (pretty sure it was Tribbie's) I did NOT like that.... I was no longer interested listening...

[@24zer0nd]

I quit on lingsha banner, not doing 8 hour yap fests anymore.

[@Theone98198]

I quit yesterday and I am so happy🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@GoriborthGaming]

If they just addded the skip button, so so simple solution but naaaaah. Lets just force ppl to fall asleep doing yapfest msq, i cant understand how can anyone enjoy this shit. Never touching hoyoverse games again, now specially masterpiece wuwa being out.

[@ayatok4870]

story inspired from Greek its natural not everyone will like people have different taste after all personality i like story i like new cast members all looks good like from classic fantasy books

[@solidsudlon69]

The problem is storytelling not the story

[@amari7782]

It has absolutely nothing to do with the story it’s how it’s presented is the issue

[@a4arick106]

My friend said that 3.0 story is great and deep that anyone has a problem with it basically have no brain at all. I'm not joking. He is though, a total fanatic and elitist of Honkai's lore since HI3rd, and he also plays FGO. Seriously though, these obnoxious Gacha players really view these games not as games, but as an attachment of their lives, they do not care the quality of the game as long as they can dig deep to even the slightest hint of lore in their favorite "game" and they think that it is the greatest masterpiece they ever saw in their life. The thing is they don't care about Yapfest as they are already too deep to their obsession of the lore to the point that they feel like an elite and treat those who didn't like the storytelling as someone who is "unworthy" to enjoy the plot. What a cringe living being.

[@amari7782]

I don’t know how your friend plays hi3 and fgo and doesn’t understand how trash the story telling for this game is when both of those games could tell potentially multiple story chapters from start to finish with combat and gameplay in half the time it takes to play through all of penacony

[@a4arick106]

@amari7782 he is a lost cause, accepting everything as long as it's a gacha game. Trying to even discuss this is a waste of energy for me lmao

[@arondyte318]

Bro I also play FGO and the quality of writing between that game and this turd is night and day. Fate has a wealth of experience in VN storytelling and it clearly shows. FGO can make my heart race, laugh or even cry just with 2D art, music and the occasional sound effect. HSR can’t even keep me interested within a 30min timespan on how bad their storytelling skills are even with the fancier graphics and higher budget. It’s like comparing a high-end Beef Wellington to a 3 day rotting roadkill masquerading as a “steak”

[@amari7782]

@@a4arick106 I’m so sorry bro it sounds like you got it rough

[@amari7782]

@@arondyte318 it’s funny cuz the hoyo devs are massive fate fans yet can’t seem to capture the quality of type moon works

[@outsider2638]

The Lisa.

[@Frozengermz0629]

I didn't bother logging in since banana

[@KontoruID]

3 sec cutscene after battle and 7 minutes PNG yap. Yeah HSR need skipp button

[@drdgz68]

Is this what happens when you lay off your writers in favor of ai?

[@amari7782]

It wasn’t writers from my understanding it was more the localization crew and such

[@awakenedcrowl]

I thought Penacony storytelling was AMAZING, and I'll die on that hill. I'm someone who DOES get bothered by too long dialogues - if they aren't interesting. But for me - I think they WERE super interesting, if actually paid attention to the whole way through. They WERE long, but I'm GLAD they were. You know what happens if stories try to tell a complex story but shorten the dialogue as much as they can? Then people will complain because it's too rushed! There is no absolute winning there. And I really feel like they took the perfect balance in Penacony. Haven't tried Amphoreus yet, but I'm somewhat hopeful. I agree on one thing: They should just introduce a skip button. So we who enjoy the story do not have to hear more lines of yapping from those who hate on the story, than the story itself has lines.

[@wianwelgemoed5408]

idk why people are complaing about a long story in a STORY FOCUSED GAME, thats the main point of the game. It's not the length thats the problem, it's as you said, the story telling and the story itself. Something a lot of people said which I agree with is that a big problem they have is they don't show us, they tell us. A big problem I have with honkai star rail at the moment is the USELESS cutscenes. I would rather only have 1 cutscene that is 2 minutes long, that is a super cool fight or something note worthy rather than like 6 that are each 5-10 seconds long that shows us barely anything. They also need to start getting more creative with character expressions and body movements, its always the same. The second half of the story was better, but not by much.

[@amari7782]

If you think a story based game is an excuse then you’ve never played a story based game. Countless story based games have a skip button and can tell their story in way less time than HSR can while still being good. HSR is actively dragging out its story for 0 reasons and the story they tell is purely carried by the Greek mythology motif. Stop hiding behind the “it’s a story game excuse” Because there’s no reason for the story be the way it is

[@duckyo4045]

Because the entire game is about pulling characters and do moc who cares about the story?/r (btw i feel like only people that arledy hate the game/story comment mostly on these kind of bait videos to make sure other people agree with their opinion)

[@arcd75]

It's not only Genshin that is being branded as "Story-focused" game now but also HSR huh. I wonder how much of the "game" is left in it but rather a bunch of unengaging wall of text and jargons. Not to mention, I think they doubled down on the jargons to their detriment. Come on, there's more CONTENT because there's more text to read and more characters to pull right?

[@huyle-ob8rg]

I have no problem with the length, but the storytelling and the story itself makes it feel longer than it should be, like a very boring lesson that feels like hours when only minutes passed. And since there's no skip button, you have to sit through this to progress.

[@Gnimac-h6d]

Ooh.. My bad. When i first signed in to HSR, i thought they were combat focused Turn based games. Didn't know they were shifted in genre now.. So they basically like "Until Dawn” now? So tell me, How many routes /branching plot were availables? Do Choices really matter?

[@silverhawkscape2677]

I don't get what People are calling it a Yapfest. They clearly cut down on the complaints of Yapping as the Dialogue flows more Naturally. Characters even are more Straight forward instead of beating around the Bush. And the dialogue we do get is actually lore relevant or Banter meant to show us the relationship of Characters like Mydei and Phainon.

[@FrozenFrost6866]

yes but the time to complete is too long and most of the people have short intention spam and like most people says hsr story is just tell and no show

[@KontoruID]

i admit story is fine but the way they delivered is bad

[@huyle-ob8rg]

It does have better pace than penacony, but it's not really that significantly better. Having lore-relevant dialogues don't make it any better either when the story failed to make the audience care about the subject, so the subject's lore it's just another yapping section to them.

[@Dee-jd8vc]

Some people say its yapping because the story is mostly telling, not showing. Most of the time, players just see all the characters standing still with no change in expression, no body movement, no change in camera angle at all. So, even if two characters were arguing with each other, all we see is two characters standing still (maybe moving their hands a little bit). Sometimes, we can't even see the character's faces.

[@giovanni1166]

Not the fountain tell me 2 times the story of amphoreua

[@nono-lq5uy]

I actually liked it, I read it all, pretty interesting for me atleast. I Also liked doing all the puzzles they were 90% fun. But that could just be me. 8.5/10. Though the story was longer , it did not felt like they were yapping like in penacony. People probably found it bad, cuz they skip read. Low span of attention. And since it was 8 plus hours long, they had to skip read for eight hours . Such a torture for them. Mind u , it was a prologue and as a pilot for a new story story. it did good. Set the scene for the next eight patches.

[@JaREN8]

It's getting boring for sure.. doing daily then exit the game Maybe get serious to play the game again if they introduced the skipped button.or the collab

[@AyatosBobas]

The puzzles were to much. The bosses seem to be they'll only be good to fight against if you pull for the newest charcters even if you dont want them, the four stars are barely usable anymore . I dont mind the lenght of the quests . Maybe they need to be split jn half between the two patch updates (like part of it when the next banners are )

[@JustCheppo]

Their goal in 3.0 is to reignite the hype brought by the flamechasers back in hi3. Many would already be fascinated by this even if you slap the usual tropes in it that hyv felt they really don't need to put much in the sequence or storytelling.

[@JustCheppo]

I know cos I have a friend who was very critical when it comes to story in other gachas criticizing it but when it comes to hsr she was just like oh look how cute this new character is.

[@kaionyoki3670]

Damn 😂

[@theoDSP]

Another big disappointment, mostly because of the new characters

[@wilhelmusrobben9953]

Worse than Penacony? I literally spammed through 2.2-2.7 cuz its just yap.

[@kaiipop4762]

Too much telling and not enough showing imo

[@phantomblade89]

me: played trails of cold steel, this is nothing, these kids could never play those games because plenty of dialogue and they don't want to read or they can't can't read.

[@enhaylo]

Same here, I'm so used to these kind of long stories because of my experience with lots of JRPGs... in fact, I'll be disappointed if it was any less than what they have now since they mentioned Trails and Persona were big inspirations for the HSR devs

[@thundexx1]

a story is 10 hours long and you called that good? people majority of the time came to play a game not go into a game to listen to a 10 hour chinese manhua.

[@Mystra]

What's wrong with 10 hours as a concept? An update is going to be finished long before the next update regardless, so if anything it's better if it lasts abit at least. If it was 3 hours people would complain that it's too short.

[@KingIsAlreadyUse]

People will be happy if we have 3 hours yapping and 7 hour gameplay but it's a gacha game and a hoyo game

[@aceace8374]

Yapping Star Rail

[@God.Of.Shadows]

Some of the criticism i do understand but why not compare a game with the same format instead ? Everyone compares it to an open world game that makes no sense to me like the flying thing ok thats because its an open world game HSR is not i feel like u should more compare the same thing to show better examples

[@diabolike8055]

Reverse1999 then ? Much better and shorter dialogues straightfoward ans its not during 10 hours And its actually confortable to follow

[@reyhanull8903]

Agreed, but what do you consider "game with same format"? I asume you mean turn-based game? Story wise, Heaven Burns Red, a turn-based gacha, has a better writing.

[@huyle-ob8rg]

Ok, then Limbus company. Literally it gets better and better with each canto/chapter. They have 14 characters in the crew and they are more memorable than astral express crew. The main character literally has a clock for a face and somehow has more personality and development than Trailblazer. limbus story makes hsr story unbearably slow and barely make any progress and development because they treat it like a vacation than a mission.

[@nguyenngoi793]

Would recommend FGO Camelot and forward, but i again just want to put the game at rest.

[@awakenedcrowl]

I just really feel like whoever uses the word "Yapping" for the story, doesn't really have a right to criticize the actual story. It's FINE if you don't like to listen to so much talking (mind: "You" does not address any particular person in this case). It's FINE if you wish for a skip button, because you just want to enjoy the gameplay. But the very fact that you condescendingly call it "Yapping" and are bothered by it's length is a clear indication that you do not care about the story, and are most likely just pushing through it without really paying attention. Which, by itself, IS FINE. But is it REALLY fair for you to criticize the storytelling and content of a story you obviously didn't pay actual attention to? Again, it's totally fair to wish for a way to not have to experience the story if you don't want to. But badmouthing it when you didn't really pay attention to it in the first place is just silly.

[@Lexihides]

Pay attention to shitty writing? I tried. It was so god-awful that I closed the game and went to read an actual good book instead. Their delivery is really, really awful. I genuinely think I might be done with HSR since I was there FOR the story, but if this is how they want to do it, then it's not worth it.

[@awakenedcrowl]

@Lexihides Fair opinion. I did not find it awful. I liked it. And it actually motivated me to play more of the game than I did before. As I found it a neat enough build up with many mysteries that I genuinely wanted to solve, while experiencing many of the characters' deeper personalities through it. Aren't individual tastes a great thing? Now if only people were able to write constructive criticism with down to earth language, instead of just emotionally driven destructive opinions (that they usuall word like they were facts) with no further value than venting.

[@aoikazuma3781]

damn so it's a yapfest again? .. then the Aventurine bug "no compensation"... 💀

[@trollmc3454]

They've already fixed the Aventurine bug

[@aoikazuma3781]

@@trollmc3454 did they give compensation? cause that's the topic i'm pointing out, "no compensation"

[@trollmc3454]

@@aoikazuma3781 instead of appreciating the good, u are asking for way too much. They've already gave us 10free pulls at the start of the patch. Compensation? Nobody dies with Aventurine in their team even with the bug unless Aventurine is too low invested. There's like no bug in this game except for that Aventurine bug in the entire 2.x.

[@aoikazuma3781]

@@trollmc3454 oh so those said players who struggle completing end game because of a faulty product which has been like that for a whole patch is "asking too much"? ABSOLUTE INSANE, CINEMA

[@nkoonkukoo]

@@trollmc3454 Is asking for a skip button too much too?

[@venusiangamer69]

Aglaea was great until the yapping started (applies all upcoming characters). Completely washed out for me. Only weird part is, I started to like Tribbie a bit more with her JP va.

[@randomorc9493]

Hey, at least you can mitigate powercreep by pulling Big Herta. You can channel BOB's power to win 50/50. Fak RNGEESUS, BOB is the new god of all RNG!!

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

Hail BOB HE'LL MAKE ME WIN MY 50/50 ON MYDEI 😤

[@TheBigdan217]

The last like 3 updates sucked, and you thought a turd was going to get shiny? Lmao gtfo of here

[@Mystra]

Let's spend less time hating on other games.

[@partyanimals9026]

Yapping on the yapping game :D

[@wanabid98]

He not hating on the game tho? U act like he doesn't play the game. He like the game just having issues with it thats all and its not like he the only one. 8 hours still too long tho more so when most of it is just talking its 3d game but feel like playing VN.

[@raihanrusli2720]

It farms views, so no

[@iamnoone5960]

if you want for HSR to became like genshin then keep defending it. Hope it goes well for you

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

@@iamnoone5960 true. HSR is my favorite alongside Wuwa. That's the reason I want it to get better. As someone who defended the Penacony story, the unnecessary things that happen in-between the interesting things really kills the mood in 3.0. the cutscenes are also way too short. The story is really interesting but the storytelling is terrible. Even the most hardcore HSR players has the same sentiment. I really hope they take the criticism. I have hope in the HSR devs, as they give lots QOL in the game whenever the players ask for it. Also hope for a skip button, as I want to start an alt account..

[@ArpTakaoTTV]

honesty people are being too dumb and other stuff i will not say also have legit zero attention span that is less then 30second if they cant stand it they should just stop playing it problem solved i finished the story and it was really good ending left on a interesting part story is about 7ish but if u exploring while doing story it will take longer

[@thewritevibe]

Im already dreading the 10hrs... i havent made a dent to the story, did an hour of hsr one day ago 🫠

[@akemimanako5311]

Skip button when Bedge

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

As a Penacony defender, I think I also need a skip button for the amount of unnecessary yapping in 3.0. The parts I genuinely found interesting were with Phainon and Mydei.

[@akemimanako5311]

True I just finished 2.7 with 3 hours by pressing skip it crazy. Next I need time 10 hours to finish story 3.0 Bedge