Honkai: Star Rail Pull Value Tierlist

[@kaikaikai4477]

Let me guess: supports at the top, newer DPS higher than older DPS

[@justjuniorjaw]

The hoYoVerse special.

[@kaikaikai4477]

@@ian_chahnn idk man, seeing Blade and other older characters literally struggle to clear content is not fun either. They’re overbuffing new archetypes (with power level and content catered to them) while completely abandoning older ones. By the same rate Feixiao and Firefly are going to join Acheron in this same tier list by like… 3.1? Nah, they’re probably all going to join JingLiu and DHIL at “run away” tier. They should do a better work keeping a balance in the game

[@Bing..chiling]

​@@kaikaikai4477 meanwhile kingyuan 😐

[@Synchronizebud]

Don't forget to maintain robin's agenda is a must

[@DanhFunny]

@@kaikaikai4477 soon come a char with aoe skill 1 mil dmg with no sup =]]z

[@tsukeyi]

blade in the same tier as acheron with the argument that Maybe possibly he’ll be good in a future HP scaling meta while simultaneously putting jing yuan in bottom tier because “even if he becomes great in a summon meta, a new dps will powercreep him” is…. definitely one of the takes of all time why WOULDN’T mhy release a new hp scaling dps? and how is jy not the “pioneer” of summon meta then 😭 either put both in bottom tier or neither that doesn’t make sense lol

[@christiansoenggoro]

Reminder that cc's opinions are not facts. Don't get swayed by what he said easily. Even people on reddit rates him low as a hsr cc

[@araarashinigami]

@@christiansoenggoro Redditors have room temp IQ -- in Celsius.

[@kook3585]

Dawg its a tier list of HIS opinion

[@0shadowstar0]

Can also apply that to acheron lol, her comparison was "in a vacuum" meaning without JQ. can you really say that feixiao "in a vacuum" is also considered a must pull (lol.)

[@flamedash2837]

@@0shadowstar0 💀 right now, yeah. Feixiao is insane with very low investment requirements. Very beginner friendly. And isn't choosy about teammates. Very flexible and the best dps(rn). Acheron is not flexible, and requires some investment. I have both, so I can say this. I don't even like Feixiao i like Acheron more, but Feixiao honestly really is just better rn. Acheron is more.... independent. like with her supports and decent investment you could clear all content, theoretically.

[@Indian_gae_boii]

I pulled SW during my grandmothers post funeral ritual at 30 pity Thanks grandma for that one last W

[@mohammedrauf868]

Bro is insane

[@Indian_gae_boii]

@@mohammedrauf868 well it wasn't during her cremation ceremony this was like a solid 2 or so months after I don't quite remember

[@SHANKS183]

Absolute cinema

[@nttcus6263]

diabolical shit

[@HicEminDegilim31]

Blade at the same tier with sparkle lingsha and acheron is diabolical, huge L pokke

[@sct77]

Is anyone surprised someone with an Acheron pfp said that?

[@icebreaking3336]

​@@sct77ummm, his point is valid though

[@sct77]

@@icebreaking3336 Not really, Pokke was talking about his future and this guy is judging him based on current meta.

[@IAmGodHimself777]

@@sct77Blade has no future.

[@nimeshjadhav2777]

He know blade will get a buff!

[@HeNeedsSomeChoc]

Idc I'll still pull for my wife(Acheron)

[@TOMIKO181]

Me too ❤

[@Mimic_656]

me too❤ i just got E2 Acheron today:D

[@Shinigami344]

Pulled for her, got her, and i dont regret it one bit

[@jaaizjaadhulla]

Got her and her lc yesterday. I don't regret anything

[@Mr.Heller]

I'm pulling Acheron now out of spite for missing her by ONE singular pull at her release. And I think having plot heavy characters is neat.

[@mroxkral7276]

if you invested in her team you'll be fine.

[@grape60]

did you miss her at 89 pulls!?

[@Ouroboras]

@@grape60 that would be tragic ngl 🤣

[@Mr.Heller]

@@grape60 Nah, just run out of everything at 77 pulls, farmed all avaliable jades, achievements, every quest, every nook and cranny for hidden stuff and had zero money at the time, very next day did the dailies for 60 jades, and got Aventurine in one pull. Got her E0S1 now tho, both a bit late, but won both 50/50 and 75/25, so thankfully F2P.

[@jaaizjaadhulla]

Have you gotten her? I just pulled for her and her lc yesterday ​@@Mr.Heller

[@The_CodFish69]

Well since 3.0 is next I doubt Feixiao is a must pull, simply because the new X.0 cycle usually is a step up so I wouldn’t be surprised if the new path character is on her lvl if not better.

[@kaikaikai4477]

@@The_CodFish69 he’s biased towards her, even call her his wife, it is what it is. But you’re right, with how quickly meta changes, it’s not rational to call any DPS a must pull

[@jacks248]

Sorta but not really? It’s far more likely that Acheron gets even more outclassed. Feixiao’s strength comes mostly from the fact that she has perfect synergy with everyone in the premium FUA team. The value of her constant FUA cannot be overstated. As long as the FUA archetype lives, Feixaio will remain very valuable.

[@editimpact66]

I'm guessing Fei is gonna be Dr. Ratio of 3.x patch, very good but not the absolute top

[@The_CodFish69]

@@jacks248 yet look at characters like E2 DHIL a god on release yet now E0 BH, FF, Acheron, Feixiao and especially Rappa body him. and Acheron was the very first 2.0 DPS character. ( and I’m not counting BS because she is a DoT character instead of a normal DPS ) Also according to leaks there’s a new combat mechanic/battle type, potentially in the works that’s like PF but different so if it’s true the hunt path is getting a slight nerf.

[@JosepiThe13th]

Feixiao isn't even a must pull rn. Just use Ratio in the team instead and it's not even that much worse.

[@quockhanh5740]

if blade is in the pull for fun tier then all characters below should be put in pull for fun. Stop coping about a hp support as his scaling is horrendous asf.

[@tunax540]

Every characters = Pull for fun✅

[@madara5458]

This list sort of makes me understand how and why this game is so objectively subjective

[@LucasGomes-ng2go]

I mean, it is not, the community just makes it look like it. The best characters are those with the consistent lowest cycles/higher scores, and that's data, data is purely objective. The community just creates huge biases and end up distorting it

[@Vinedenn]

​@@LucasGomes-ng2go Your answer proves that it is subjective 😅

[@grape60]

​@@LucasGomes-ng2go "those with the consistent lowest cycles/higher scores are the best characters" is a subjective criteria in itself. who decided that that's the only way to measure better units? you could argue "those with the least amount of investment level needed to clear stages with 3 stars are the best characters," and it would be just as important to players who want to use their resources at maximum efficiency while not caring about cycles/scores. not to mention the "data" you referred to, is formed by players (who naturally have subjective teams and builds), and is collected/measured with subjective terms (restricting eidolons/lightcones, measuring the entire team vs. 1 unit's performance, etc.) as well.

[@czjns]

​@@LucasGomes-ng2go you tried to sound smart and just ended up completely contradicting yourself

[@akdrzllol1698]

My two favourite characters at different ends 🤣 Aventurine in must pull and Jingliu in run away. I agree with Aventurine. In the fua team he is strong and he is great at keeping your team alive.

[@itscollector]

We live in a time where Acheron is in the same tier as Blade, only "can pull" at E2 whereas Feixiao is "must pull" at E0. Yeah... Objectively this list makes zero sense, do proper research if you are interested in a particular unit and don't take this list for granted

[@AzurFenix]

hes always had some questionable takes, like him putting dance dance dance on sparkle over her sig art. like bro.....

[@harukasoganu]

i think he does these braindead takes just for reactions and to be controversial, it fills the comment section more and gives him attention

[@AzurFenix]

@@harukasoganu agreed on that. like him and others saying dot is weak...like wtf? You can still blitz the bosses with a kafka team? Unless they are all circle jerking T0 cycles still like anyone cares outside of a very small group that just has to make everything about epeen. Which matters not in the slightest. PvE game and even if it was PvP??? who cares???? It doesn't matter, its a game, games are meant to be fun. Not sweaty spread sheets that data nerds jerk off too.

[@DemetriaAutumn]

Gilgamesh is going to be erudition that surprisingly excels at single target Damage as well because he is not really eurudition. You cannot really classify gilgamesh in any class as he has everything. Hence Gilgamesh is going to be a very versatile character. Saber will be a destruction character and her ultimate will enlarge and elongate her sword to slam at all enemies. Archer will be the Hunt that shoots with a bow when doing follow up attacks and his ultimate will summon something that explodes. Archer’s skill will apply DOT and the more DOT stacks the more damage his ultimate will do.

[@flamedash2837]

funny asf bro😂😂😭

[@scopeyui240]

acheron is too low while she can clear all 3 endgame content but boothill can't play pf why is he higher

[@BigBoyAndrew05]

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[@uyeah1234]

Cuz boothill is better. Blud can clear any st target boss they ever make period. Still the best single target unit and he is only getting buffed more and more. Acheron is just a damage stick they can easily make a unit better then by just giving them higher damage multiplers. You cannot power creep boothill. His weakness implant and toughness damage will always be number one and those are not numbers you can power creep. He is the most verstile dps and does't need any hard set team to work. Not being able to do pure fiction is not a con its just game design. His lack of pure fiction is easily made up by him having the fastest clear times in other modes. Feixiao cannot do pure fiction, does that make her bad? No it doesnt. Same applies to boothill.

[@doom7607]

Boothill clears the more important modes better with less investment

[@Gray-y5b]

Mr pokke hates acheron

[@scopeyui240]

if we talk about "VALUE" we talk about all endgame content no???

[@JosepiThe13th]

That Ratio take is diabolical. Also, I still don't believe Rappa is better than Firefly. Don't let the Gacha Smack false propaganda fool you! It's NOT that rare to encounter content with no Imaginary or Fire. And Firefly's base is so much higher that even with Exo Toughness, she's at worse staying on the same level as Rappa. Can she do more damage in AoE? Yes. But that's literally what she's made for. Great PF character, will be solid outside PF, but Firefly is overall more consistent without needing specific weaknesses or content to excel.

[@Ben-v6z3s]

The DHL take is criminal

[@IAmGodHimself777]

@@Ben-v6z3s DHL?

[@kuramauchiha153]

@@IAmGodHimself777 dang heng

[@farius8506]

There has been like 1 floor 12 in MoC ever where at least 1 side is not weak to Imaginary or Fire.

[@idonotmakevidsyet]

This is based on F2P and E0 teams. Ratio is mid on a f2p team.

[@melopilled]

just pulled aventurine's lightcone because he's hot

[@niigolover]

Based

[@Lucky_14j2ku6]

Same will go for e2 now

[@Space22522]

Acheron in the same tier as Blade 💀

[@sct77]

Ratio isn't that bad, just because Feixiao is better doesn't mean he's terrible. He only started getting doomposted after Feixiao released but his data has actually been better than Acheron's (to no one's surprise since she fell off). Also Fu Xuan has worse pull value than everyone in the bottom tier including Luocha, she isn't part of any archetype and will be replaced by any new sustain. Comfort means nothing when she's just going to sit on the bench until end of service.

[@ChainsSSB]

This is a pull value tier list, not a viability tier list. No one with a brain thinks Ratio is a bad character, but objectively speaking, there's very little reason to want to pull him because Feixiao basically outshines him in all scenarios. If you have him because you got him for free, then he's 100% worth the investment, but there's no reason to go out of your way to get him if you joined late in the game.

[@sct77]

@@ChainsSSB Yeah and his value isn't that low, at that point it should be pull for fun. He placed Fu Xuan in the can pull category even tho her value is non existent and is outclassed by literally every sustain that is part of an archetype, including a 4 star.

[@DragonoftheDarknessFlame]

It's for pulls. Why would I pull for Ratio he's fucking amazing but I have him free. I'd go for his LC before getting him

[@ChainsSSB]

@@sct77 a sustain is inherently going to have more pull value than a DPS, because they're much less susceptible to getting powercrept. I do agree the Fu Xuan placement is a little high, but her and Ratio can't really be compared because they're not in the same category. If you only have Fu Xuan, and can't get Aventurine, you're not gonna feel that much of a difference compared to if you only have Ratio and can't get Feixiao, especially at E0S0. Fu Xuan is also still the most used sustain in Acheron teams because most Acherons tend to have lower crit rates on their builds, and if you're running Aventurine on your other side of MoC, then she's your only option left for running Trend LC.

[@sct77]

@@ChainsSSB No they won't and Fu Xuan literally got powercrept to the point of irrelevance. The meta has changed and any unit that isn't part of an archetype fell off, there's no reason to use or pull for them. Ratio might not be the best but he's still very good. Being able to feel something doesn't matter, this is about resources and spending any on Fu Xuan is the same as throwing them away. With Ratio at least you get a good dps, with Fu Xuan you get a relic holding bench warmer.

[@Kaien-qf6cr]

Actually Dr. Ratio performance is not that bad, still get good average cycle in MoC But in pull value of course he is still a DPS so yeah...

[@BenBeckmane]

Nobody is playing the long game but I'm pretty darn sure Sparkle and Silver Wolf and Fu Xuan's values will skyrocket when we get the DPS Quantum hypercarry DMG% buffer Qingque powercreep, Masked Sampo, emanator of Elation. They heavily teased the Masked Fools and exploration of World's End Tavern in version 3, and they definitely don't mess around when releasing an emanator.

[@thefirstyaksha]

Lmao Silverwolf

[@BenBeckmane]

@@thefirstyaksha She has the highest def reduction in the game and she implants Quantum (in a mono-quantum team) + reduces resistance to Quantum, if she had a good DPS to go with her she'd actually be pretty great, she just doesn't have anyone except Qingque at the moment...

[@mauriciorosademoraes9209]

NO! Fu Xuan's kit = doesn't add anything signficantly for the team besides tanking Silverwolf's kit = failure Sparkle's kit = Bad Spoiler of leaks New Quantum Harmony and New Quantum destruction DPS that scales of HP. F for Sparkle's passive Note: 1.X 21 characters leaked, one was Quantum Destruction Kevin Kaslana aside with Black Swan and others like Argenti and one of Acheron's multiple names that they changed over time.

[@BenBeckmane]

@@mauriciorosademoraes9209 Fu Xuan's kit gives crit rate which is great in a hypercarry comp... It's not the best sustain, but it's the best quantum sustain. Silver Wolf gives the highest amount of DEF down of any character, and DMG RES down to the type she implants, her debuffs are amazing but she just doesn't have anybody to synergize with yet. There's a leak for a Quantum Destruction DPS, yeah. Could be the one. Never heard of a Quantum harmony leak though, that's literally Sparkle...

[@thefirstyaksha]

@@BenBeckmane i know what SW does. And i say again Lmao Silverwolf. This is an aoe game.

[@anhelaanhela4996]

There was a cycle a while back where everything in every mode had a phys weakness and a ton of summons, I think there was Aventurine in Apoc and Argenti in MoC, and my E0S0 Argenti carried every single mode, it was so satisfying. I'd personally put him in "Pull for fun" tier, he has his niche and he's incredible in it, it's just so fun to wham everything with his spear.

[@ShahanJagus]

I am f2p and did not pull for any superbreak dps. Now i am struggling with endgame content

[@ChainsSSB]

Technically any character that does decent toughness damage can be a superbreak driver lol, it doesn't have to be any of the dedicated break DPS. I've been able to get good clears this MoC with superbreak Himeko and Guinaifen, and even units like Blade, DHIL, or Jingliu could work given the right weaknesses.

[@GodofGoblins]

You really dont need the dedicated super break DPS to run super break. HMC is free, and if you got Ruan Mei as well, you are good. Run a Himeko or believe it or not even Blade and watch the magic happen. It is quite insane. Obviously someone like Clara isnt efficient due to her playstyle, but a lot of DPS work fine with just HMC. Also, FUA is still meta as it clears end game content without caring about buffs. Just depends on how well you invested

[@rikka-sama819]

if u need break dps to clear a endgame content u suck

[@amp-le4699]

Im also f2p and as long as you have the superbreak core (HMC, RM, Lingsha/Gallagher) it really doesnt matter who you put in the 4th slot

[@Rj_xxiv]

I went all or nothing today on aventurine's banner and got him in about 90 pulls even aftee losing 50/50 to yanking...the gambler mentallity works best 🤣

[@infamouslybadbro9497]

Always gotta pull for daddy aventurine

[@Niv_Touhou]

Based

[@print-diot]

I just got him s1

[@print-diot]

Took only 9k jades for him and his lc

[@piggletimpact]

Bro he is not daddy he probably calls people daddy

[@fujinerz1220]

​@@piggletimpact IDC he still is one

[@tunderblood]

If this tierlist is for best value for casual players obviously Acheron should be at least at can pull, only cuz they havent given her a free lc yet but that will happen anyway so it shouldn't be a consideration so shes going to must pull cuz shes one unit that you can use anywhere and obviously its cheaper to get one unit than like 3-4, not just in all 3 endgame modes but also outside of them in events, domain farming, overworld farming, su, du, any future su or endgame mode they introduce, she just does her dmg without rellying on any gimmicks that depend on enemies like breaking and the enemies attacking, all she needs is higher debuff application frequency to be even better which can easily be improved so she has lots of room for growth, has good team versatility unlike othet dpses who are locked to teams, can be used even against non lightning weak enemies, no other dps does as good against enemies that dont favor them, and she can literally bruteforce anything in the game, every other dps can be screwed over. No wonder they dont give her more love cuz shes already doing all this without proper team and buffs. It's as simple as this and objectively how things stand, none of this powercreep, fell off bs that everyone just says whatever they feel like and no one casual cares about is needed

[@CristianoRonado...]

very much agree, acheron easily could use pela (which everyone should had already) on the team and it's enough. A different thing can be said on break character (god I wish boothil is not a break dps), where our mister gallaher been avoiding every banner till now

[@sct77]

She already has a 4 star LC and it's on her banner right now lmao. She's one of the worst pulls because of all of the things you need to make her work. She's far from a top tier unit without Jiaoqiu and no one is going to pull for him during 3.X when there's many more important units releasing like with 2.7 She's getting powercrept in 3.0 anyways.

[@k.h6635]

Topaz from the most underestimated unit back then 1.4 to overtaking all those old unit dps before her is insane 💀

[@shirio45]

to be fair she was pretty ass back then

[@thecalmbeforethemaelstrom]

@@shirio45facts! people forget that she needed E1S1 just to do reasonable damage consistently. Then for that period where it was just her and Dr. Ratio, Dr. Ratio needed her E1 for the Debuff AND needed his light cone. Before Aventurine, the follow up team was expensive and still not on par with Jingliu or DHIL. For the same price or less you could have had E2S1 of either hypercarry. To this day, E2S1 Jingliu or E2S1 DHIL with E0 5* supports will outperform an E0 RAFT team. Ik follow up is now THE META team but building that team as it came out, exactly how the guidemakers told us to build it, was not F2P accessible. RAFT is still not an affordable team to run at E0S1 if you consider the farming requirement for 4 5* characters on top of the fact that you would still need to invest in another team to 3* all end game modes. sorry I went on a tangent at the end. I think it’s just misleading for the guidemakers to tell new players “just pull the FART team” without mentioning the arduous grind for relics on each character to match the performance of a hypercarry team or the superbreak team.

[@supernova_94]

​@@shirio45 Quite literally

[@aba7968]

@@shirio45 It's more that she lacked options, then Hoyo started the fua shilling in 2.X

[@shirio45]

@@supernova_94 there's a reason she is called TopASS

[@tylercoep0588]

Personally i don't really care abt meta. As long as i like them 😅

[@Mimic_656]

yeah, should be play for favorite fr

[@burningnoodles4518]

Who ask?

[@tylercoep0588]

@@burningnoodles4518 And no one asked for your opinion.

[@burningnoodles4518]

@tylercoep0588 who tell?

[@wildcarx]

for me about topaz ,she's a must pull because even there's march ,why not use them togather since their kits synergies way too well .topaz is one of the most consistent hitters while march can use it to the max

[@Ukorim]

The unfortunate thing isn't even the character themselves but how each patch revolves around a certain archetype which inevitably affects current game modes as well. Acheron is a case where I had to pull for Jiaoqiu just to continue 3 starring all content.

[@tyrilliamoon5237]

its quite sad to see so many 1.x characters completely dead i am afraid when 3.x comes out. we'll start to see a lot of 2.x characters also in the dead area this game is truly a meta game, its sad

[@melopilled]

don't worry, we'll witness a reverse powercreep in 2.7 where ur old units are playable again

[@saltybalot3021]

​@melopilled I dunno man, it feels more like a bandaid solution because it kinda gives them like a floor to be at least manageable in MoC 12 with bosses holding millions of hp but it doesn't mean that their pull value or overall value is equal to new and future dps

[@whywasthismywholeassname]

Ive thought of getting c2 acheron since i got c1, but shes been pretty ok with my jiaoqiu and i regret skipping boothill 😔

[@lemix211]

No matter how Acheron "fell off" i would never regret pulling her just for her tehnique that saves so much time, Feaxio is second best but its still forces you into battle screen.

[@doobongz]

pulled acheron cause shes my favorite character

[@joshromero1796]

Pull for who you like bro ski every single one of the recommend units will be powercrept anyway this list is utterly useless lol just chill and have fun.

[@screamaskzxyers]

chat is so toxic the moment firefly comes into play lol

[@sct77]

Xolze's minions.

[@Kanaerya]

happen to a lot of popular stuff

[@Indian_gae_boii]

Based chat sh tting on fraudfly

[@screamaskzxyers]

​@@Indian_gae_boii no wonder, the community itself is based on shit, so yeah

[@frostyamay]

The most loved always gets the most haters

[@xeali1]

i clicked on this video purely to see the angry comments on his personal opinions

[@Nox_Eternis]

1:36 I'm going to say, I'm expecting Emanator Herta to introduce the "summon meta" where she'll just summon her puppets to attack. Since hoyo already teased her and the way she has dozens of puppets running around, she'd be the perfect character to start with.

[@pao2g]

Lingsha is definitely a must pull if you know the leaks. You wouldn't even need rappa or firefly if you have lingsha with fugue. Exo-toughness is what made this patch lingsha's patch, and after fugue makes exo-toughness permanent, all patch will be lingsha's patch. Lingsha+fugue+HMC+sunday is a 0-cycle team. Considering that Ruan mei isn't even there says a lot about lingsha's potential as a top tier DPS

[@TheSashal1999]

I always pick Luocha over Fu Xuan simply because Luocha is SP positive and there is not a single one shotting enemy in MoC or PF at this point anyway. He can also cleanse debuffs easily and remove buffs from enemies

[@Thugshaker2956]

For you screenshotters if you hold the screen and press description the title will be there

[@tayyabo]

Bro the amount of times pokke mentions leaks indirectly is funny af 🤣

[@dramorian4486]

As a day 1 f2p player I have a pretty shitty account. Basically, I have only superbreak exodia completed with FF. Other DPS units are Jingliu and Seele, supports - Sparkle and Silver Wolf, sustains: Fu Xuan. I currently have 300 warps but don't know where to spend them.

[@dayfe9933]

This is MoC tierlist right?because if this for all content you put feixiao,topaz, and boothill to hight,because they are strugle to clear PF

[@editimpact66]

Feixiao is an excellent Herta driver for pf lol

[@ChainsSSB]

Fei and Topaz are 100% viable in PF, and Fei has been able to 40k every PF she's been available for so far. Boothill is the only one that's dead in the water.

[@Mamjamsham]

​@@ChainsSSBnot after 2.7 PF change, where clearing a boss will let you go to the next wave. That being said I dont think Feixiao and BH being weaker in PF does much, when they are really good in MoC and AS. Just use your Herta Himeko in PF

[@dayfe9933]

​@@editimpact66Yes that was because herta,not feixiao,every hunt can be a driver for herta

[@editimpact66]

@dayfe9933 feixiao attacks frequently and can nuke the final boss which is something most other hunt cannot do

[@blazeyprime4470]

Worst tier list I've ever seen.

[@Tona214]

Aven not a must pull if you already have 2 limited sustains or more. If you have trouble surviving on SU/DU just bring both your limited sustains

[@dantez3600]

I think Aventurine is completely skippable. With Lingsha, in this MoC, she was doing 200k+ per skill then another 350k+ every time the bunnies attacked. Then another huge amount of DMG per ULT. The highest DMG I witnessed from her was above 400k. And that's at E0S0. Aventurine is a great sustain and a very comfortable to use unit. But I can see a future where the next sustain we get will also have a role in the team that will bring more value than what aventurine currently does.

[@IdeasAreBulletproof]

No Preservation in 3.x. Unless the next Healer can provide Overheal shields

[@Rj_xxiv]

We have total of 3 5star sheilders in game i think you can pull him untill the next preservation unit drops

[@GodofGoblins]

Basically it will come down to if Hoyo implements more enemies that does crowd control. That is one of Aventurines only flaws (and most build good effect res anyways), but yeah. If they implement more CC, then characters like Lingsha and Huo Huo look more valuable. Otherwise, Aventurine is a very safe investment.

[@QuackEasy]

@IdeasAreBulletproof Honestly, something like Baliu's invigoration, if it didn't expire would be a great substitute to shields.

[@ABC-yj6cy]

Aventurine is no longer a must pull. He just sustains, that's all there is to it. His dmge isn't even that significant. He can't even cleanse

[@Eduan_the_King]

Im afraid to pull for aventurine. Considering that he already came a while ago, it might not take too long to get powercrept by another stronger sustain... and i do have fu xuan with her limited LC

[@joshromero1796]

No preservation characters in 3.x as of now plus he’s still gonna be great regardless unless bosses are gonna start insta killing now lol.

[@Rj_xxiv]

I think blade will not be good anytime in future because his skill hits only twice where all the new dps hits like 8 times for 40-60k each hit if it crits and blade just does about 80-100k damage if you are lucky on that crit other he is useless nowadays

[@muhammadreyhan9668]

6 month ago i'll surely say "Acheron" but now.... absolutely "Aventurine" He's the MUST HAVE.... sooo good as sustainer, compatible to all team.... for acheron, she's still good, but there're already so many new character that also good, and she's not compatible too all type of team and mode....

[@dalodulo1373]

I'm not sure why folks keep saying acheron is slipping. I still tear through content with ease with her, and i dont even run her with an advance forward harmony.

[@noirgost6809]

Just lose 50/50 to welt. My luck on hsr is so bad

[@Khaer.1569]

the dps ranking doesn't make sense😭 if we're looking at acheron in a "vacuum" then why aren't we looking at fei xiao, or firefly in a "vacuum" aswell? firefly is the worst character without super break😭💀 (75% of "her" dmg comes from hmc)

[@Morkins324]

Everyone is so wrong about Lingsha and will live to regret their disrespect. Erudition DPS disguised as Abundance and everyone is wrong.

[@Tona214]

She is way more versatile than Aven too. Works with Superbreak, FUA and in the future with the summons meta

[@izumolee6714]

They also keep comparing her to Galachad, yes Galachad is very good but Lingsha is so much more comfortable to play and less stressful due to that bunny very often saving the run if things get hairy or rng is not in your favor. Not to forget her damage is so much more impressive than Galachad especially on a break team.

[@elormanyigba6917]

The person who said in chat “I will dispatch you in 8 cycles” made me laugh so hard 😭😭 And as someone who only has 1.x dps like E0 DHIL and E0 Jingyuan I really need to get 2.x and up DPS it’s not like they are in the gutters they are still usable but I’m like really outdated on DPS

[@Mark1_]

Mr Pokke if I have an E1 Fu Xuan can I skip aven because I'm saving for Firefly rerun

[@mohammedrauf868]

Insane that lingsha is that low, just waiting for fugue to come out then lingsha fugue ruan Mei and hmc team will be the best SB team 😭😭😭

[@27Ganon]

or just run sustainless super break for better performance

[@ash5983]

This is a ragebait video, and you all fall for it, not me, haha 😎😎😎

[@celticsbound]

Bro I just pulled for DHILthere’s no way he’s that bad 😭😭😭😭 doesn’t sparkle fix all his problems and makes him at least decent

[@gelsakh2573]

but fr tho spending $100+ for a character just to be relevant for 2 patches is INSANE, hsr is more predatory than genshin

[@glonthein]

Yeah, rushing to record 100 videos or w/e in one week for when he was at "war" really wasn't a good way to stop the spread of misinformation.

[@Livie2_1]

To Late To Back Out Now That I Have Everything Prepared For Acheron 😭

[@kaikaikai4477]

@@Livie2_1 you’re pulling for an amazing unit, don’t feel guilty just because some guy don’t like her

[@smolbeans7]

It's okay, she'll at least stay on the top-ish tier till around 3.2 Every dps is gonna fall off eventually and she's descending on that path slowly

[@editimpact66]

​​@@kaikaikai4477Acheron is not amazing anymore lmao People like to say dps have less value and all, but literally everyone has less value compared to the new shiny toys, Acheron included. The only ones that might stand the test of time is the characters tied to a single archetype much more than others like Kafka or Topaz.

[@kaikaikai4477]

@@editimpact66 she is amazing with the right investment (Jiaoqiu and LC). Character doesn’t need to do 0 cycles to be amazing. Not to mention that her having AOE is great for all future content (both rows and new minions that need 5 different hits to disappear)

[@JosepiThe13th]

@@editimpact66 Flopka will never stand the test of time as long as they keep ignoring DoT lmao.

[@AzurFenix]

idc how much you all put aventurin at the top of lists, idc. I will never get him no mater how meta he is.

[@axi6357]

Tried getting E2 Acheron, lost and end up getting Aventurine

[@AC-zv3fx]

From what I saw, Lingsha's value is very likely gonna skyrocket

[@insertgenerichannelname]

The Blade haters are many in the comment section. Don't worry my fellow Blade glazers, I shall cope and hope with you all. Paradise(meta) will surely be reachable for Blade!! 🗿

[@elynna2483]

Is he back? Why it feels like he always with us every video.

[@Morkins324]

No. He just recorded a billion videos before he left. Planning ahead.

[@elynna2483]

So he unloaded everything he had after lots of saving, i see

[@flamedash2837]

me who has all three DHIL, Seele, Jing Yuan watching this video. with also a boothill and sparkle instead of ruan mei, an acheron with no LC or eidolons, no jiaoqui, and sustains as gepard and bailu.💀💀💀

[@flamedash2837]

not to mention my feixiao outperforming my acheron

[@sahil97myst]

27:50 bro is so so dedicated to lolli girls (I'm with him) 🌚

[@ciremya4294]

i need a new sustain so bad , but fuck i don't want to pull aventurine.. i don't like him , DOT DEDICATED SUPPORT PLEASE

[@settheray2jerry1]

I don’t care, I am 1000% pulling for Seele whenever she reruns, she looks so fun to play with

[@1Gymfreak1]

Not Having Acheron in the must pull is crazy. Acheron carried me hard in the story and in moc

[@unendingvoid]

Nah she isn't a must pull anymore. U actually need to invest in her and her team to make her feel strong

[@Groudon_Jz]

​​@@unendingvoid as a dot user I would say acheron would be a good option for me

[@Osprey1994]

I have Acheron, and she is a for fun pull if you aren't going E0S1. I have her at E0S0 and she gets drastically outshone by E0S0 Fei and E0S0 FF.

[@Osprey1994]

​@unendingvoid Even on release she needed her LC honestly. At this point, I don't even think I would go for her LC though, I might just bench her and focus on newer characters.

[@unendingvoid]

@@Groudon_Jz Sure, I agree, but that's not must pull level. It's just 'good'. Like Acheron can be used in dotcheron team, can be used with pela etc. She gives you a strong DPS, but u could also just use dot by itself (dot isn't strong nowadays but yeah)

[@C00lguy]

Im holding my gambaling urge to pull acheron on the rerun because my account canot support her but i am pulling the zezty guy

[@Pachirisu2024]

Me saving up 260pulls for the silverwolf rerun in 2.7: WHAR DO YOU MEAN DONT NEED TO PULL👁👄👁

[@KiraYoshikage-22]

Pulling for Silver wolf now is like pulling for a standard character. However if you just want her for fun then ignore me

[@Pachirisu2024]

@KiraYoshikage-22 jeah im at the point where 1 team clears in 0 cycles and my second team is just the characters I love😂

[@zieek1]

Make a list with Eidolons and light cones

[@joshromero1796]

Yeah honestly these cc’s need to do that prydwen too make a tier list with eidolons and sig LC’s included and see how much better these characters can perform don’t know why they haven’t done that yet.

[@zakk3935]

Gotta say thought that DoT can be good with high investment, they definitely need a new character though.

[@aba7968]

Dot is mainly lacking because they're neglected, if Hoyo decides to revert their attention to them we could see a DOT meta. It's really about what archetype is being shilled in the current meta.

[@joshromero1796]

@@aba7968I mean look at this PF saw some peeps crying about not even being able to clear it cause they don’t have any dot, when the content caters to the archetype the characters shine through it is what it is.

[@riveneven]

Acheron copers like it or not if you didnt get jiaqiao shes not even top 3 teams rn tldrxget jiaqiao or e2 if you like her that much

[@joshromero1796]

Been have her e2 with Jiaoqiu I’m just chilling now fr.

[@riveneven]

@joshromero1796 you're beyond chilling bro good stuff

[@Eduan_the_King]

man this outro slaps everytime

[@treysmith9371]

Poor argenti. My man never even got a signature set

[@maximgeldon]

Hey man love your vids , I watch your vids during work but I can't hear a single thing you are saying even at 150% volume you are still too low , maybe try enhancing video volume in editing

[@SillySkull]

Jingyuan should be up like 1 or 2 spots but beside that great list

[@mismagia]

mad overrate on fu xuan she never sustains better than aventurine she is aging out as a E0S0 sustain fast

[@pekopeco7360]

L take. putting Godsha at Can instead of must pull. She's unparalleled. Disliking

[@JaiMac-gc5nr]

Another “payless” tier list, lol. Thank goodness I don’t have to succumb to this lunacy.

[@badday202]

2:27 Bro is living in the future

[@pegasusdragoondxt]

No way E0S0 blade is in pull for fun, the only fun i see is the from enemy

[@RerunBladeIPayForE6S5]

Blade rerun is the only thing on my mind I wake up everyday waiting fro the announcement leaks or whatever .-. anything blade related I'll be there smoking that copium E6S5 DREAM

[@JosepiThe13th]

Dw we'll get a soulbind character who links their HP to another unit's so that they share damage and increase their aggro.,

[@RerunBladeIPayForE6S5]

@ thank u I appreciate the kindness ::D my hopes have been lifted thanks to u kind person

[@IAmGodHimself777]

@@JosepiThe13thHe would still be mediocre, to be honest. He would also need a good ‘ol hp buffer on top of that.

[@Zaturn_]

Mr Pokke Pulling from the WAR zone o7

[@dogeess]

I started a new account just for the sake of pulling waifus and all the waifus i wan are in pull for fun lmao

[@kiwee4577]

I saw Linked used Xueyi x SW yesterday on Hoolay tbh it looks fun

[@AdityaHSR]

The invite to discord its Expired... 😢

[@flamedash2837]

Topaz's comeback is diabolical💀

[@cagrgunduz9934]

Blade on same tier as acheron sparkle and DOT I'm DEAD

[@critanddam9031]

worst tierlist ive seen in a while, good job

[@YT-Average]

Ok who tf is Uncle P

[@daitoushoutou]

Knowing what I know, this pull tier list will be very different in 3.x. There will be enemies who summon Shadow Servants, Fire Prowlers, who use DoT attacks which destroy HPs of units at the beginning of every turn, going down to an HP of 1, countering Aventurine powerful shields. There will be multiple enemies lined up in two or more rows. Units who have bounce attacks and attacks which hit "all enemies" will be able to attack enemies in backend rows. Unless they make adjustments, current Destruction and Hunt units cannot attack enemies in backend rows. There will be enemies, possibly enemy Servants, such as Griffins and Shooters, who are immune to all damage and CCs. To get them to leave the field, one must beat them with Basic Attacks, Skill Attacks, and Ultimate Attacks in kinda minigames. Excluding Welt as a pseudo sustain, the only current sustain who has all three attacks is Lingsha. At least 3 new HP scaling units will be introduced in 3.x, including a pair of Blade-like HP scalers, a 3.2? female quantum Remembrance unit who summons a Servant and a 3.1? male imaginary😅 Destruction unit, as well as the 3.0 Remembrance Trailblazer, an ice HP scaling additional damage dealer who summons a Servant. The new 3.0+ Path of Remembrance is thought to be associated with units who summon Servants, or on-field summons, sort of like how Masters summons Servants in the JP Fate series. Jing Yuan's Lightning Lord, Topaz's Numby, and Lingsha's Fuyuan are off-field summons, not Servants. All Servants are summons. But not all summons are Servants. 3.0 Aglaea is a lightning Remembrance unit who summons a lightning Servant, a "Tailor." In Ancient Greek mythology, Aglaea is the goddess of beauty, glory, splendor, and adornment. And so on.

[@CristianoRonado...]

where do you get da sauce??

[@SchyteDiegorio]

source??

[@discreaminant]

@@SchyteDiegorioprob from some coping Blade mains and/or Aven haters lol

[@alonelycacti]

​@@discreaminant He's actually not wrong, all of this info is given by reliable leakers, I fact checked it.

[@irena4929]

"Source is i made it tf up" ahh comment

[@Osprey1994]

No Rappa?

[@dimitristakis6396]

This tier is pretty L ngl 😅 sorry pokke

[@HeshO-yi3hh]

Would love to see Eidolons tierlist

[@HassanAli-vk6ho]

aventurine pulling is must

[@909090438]

E2DHIL was betrayed

[@magictrick24]

fu xuan ridiculously high