Honour Killings, Child Marriage, Domestic Abuse & Modern Slavery: How We Survived | Roundtable

In this episode of Roundtable, we gathered six remarkable women in conversation to celebrate International Women's Day. Sema Gornall, Nina Aouilk, Natasha Sanders, Shamsa Araweelo, Warda Mohamed, and Rubie Marie sat down together for a profound discussion on the pressing issues affecting women and girls worldwide.
From tackling female genital mutilation (FGM), child marriage, and honour killings to addressing the challenges of domestic abuse and gender-based violence, we delve deep into these critical topics and explore how society can unite to confront and overcome these issues, paving the way toward a brighter future for us all.
For more information on the impactful work of each of these inspirational individuals, please follow the links below.
Sema - thevavengers.co.uk/ and / semagornall
Nina - endhonourkillings.org/ , ninaaouilk.com/ , / londonslifecoach
Natasha - / handbagsnhorses
Shamsa - / shamsaaraweelo and / gardenof.peace
Tiktok: shamsa Araweelo
Warda - www.lastingsupportservices.com/ and instagram.com@lastingsupportservices/
Rubie - / rubiemarieuk and www.oxfordagainstcutting.org/
00:00 - 01:49 - Intro
01:49 - 05:00 - What problems face women and girls globally?
05:00 - 06:02 - Is the UK an equal society?
06:02 - 11:03 - How do notions of honour and shame impact women?
11:06 - 13:05 - Should we all be feminist?
13:05 - 14:40 - Is culture used to excuse abuse against women?
14:41 - 19:19 - How has motherhood changed you?
19:20 - 25:33 - Do institutions fail women?
25:34 -29:12 - How are children impacted by gender-based violence?
29:14 - 32:45 - What role do men and boys play?
32:46 - 34:40 - What is the future we're striving for?
34:42 - 41:00 - How has your identity as a woman evolved?
41:00 - 45:38 - What do you love about being a woman?
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[@LADbible]

Thank you to these incredible women for taking part in our International Women's Day Episode. To find out more about the work Shamsa, Nina, Sema, Natasha, Warda and Rubie do, please follow the links in the description of the video.

[@thevavengers]

Thank you for amplifying the voices of survivors. We are so lucky and proud to have Sema as our CEO - The Vavengers

[@siofrarafferty3821]

“Culture cannot be abuse.” 👏👏👏

[@Pinkbunnylaw]

Except under Islamic law

[@Tokidokiandmakeup]

islamic law is different from islamic culture. no culture intends to oppress anyone. it is up to the people and communities to make do with their actions @@Pinkbunnylaw

[@Somalistorm]

​@@Pinkbunnylawif it's islamically not allowed. But culture still allows it why blame religion? Most of these countries don't have sharia law but secular law and a strong oppressive culture

[@Pinkbunnylaw]

@@Somalistorm I'm sorry but it comes from the Quran. I have read it completely including the hadiths and the abrogations. They are following the instructions from it and living under 7th century Muslim mentality. Every one of those women are from a Muslim society if not the entire country.

[@dynoooomite6936]

​@@PinkbunnylawOkay Pink bunny lady. Please highlight the verses of the Quran you have read entirely which calls for honorkillings. And please enighten me on why this practice is also reported among hindus, sikhs, kurds and ........ even christians in Asia i believe. Also enlighten me on why I dont hear about this among muslim communities in other regions of the world.

[@diekje8728]

“I want a future where woman don’t have to strategize to survive”. That hit me. I am nowhere near anything these women have been through, but my god how often do I indeed think about my safety or defense

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Then get a strong man That can protect you.

[@Lara-rm3gs]

@@elongatedmanforever1252no. Women shouldn’t have to depend on others for protection and just not be attacked/targeted for their gender in the first place.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@Lara-rm3gs women aren't the Only ones targeted also it's just human Nature of people Needing protection What do you expect The world to be perfect??

[@funkunko]

@@elongatedmanforever1252 women are the main ones targeted. statistics and facts don’t lie. no one said males aren’t also targeted, just not as much.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@funkunko They are though, in wars & in fights, women are Protected by men.

[@owlmug6052]

Thank you, ladies, for your astounding courage and your willingness to speak out and get people out there to wake up!

[@rachelturner1975]

These women have survived so much - their courage inspires me ❤

[@brownasiankid1782]

all because of racism in jewish culture and western culture. it will change soon@@rachelturner1975

[@joanna-222]

Those women are so empowering and it's crazy how after all that trauma and abuse they are still sane and wonderful people

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

I wish we could hear men Talk with them.

[@funkunko]

@@elongatedmanforever1252why? why do you put them on a pedestal? these women deserve to be heard without a male in the room.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@funkunko Because they are just Talking amongst themselves we never hear what the men Feel or think, how are we Supposed to solve a issue Between the genders if Only women discuss stuff By themselves??

[@KahlessTheUnforgettable]

@@funkunko That’s what the kitchen is for 😆

[@andrewrice9362]

I remember a girl came into the bar I was working in and looked scared. Im so glad I asked her if she was OK. She was being stalked off the train and he tried running into the pub after I told him to get off the property. I booted him in the chest onto the pavement and a police car passed as it happend. I'll never forget it. Its becoming more and more clear to me these things are happening more regularly than I could imagine.

[@maryscott9430]

Ninas videos about her abuse and assault made me cry so much. She is a beautiful, smart, brave woman.❤

[@londonslifecoach]

Thank you Mary for extending love and support ❤

[@dakotac180]

In honor of women's month, these ladies are full queens. These are such important conversations to have and should show how much more we have to go.

[@gilmaxff]

As a man I completly take my hat off to these fearless women for speaking out openly about their dramatic stories, in which there are men involved who have to learn how to appreciate a woman value, Yet on behalf of all good men I ask for forgiveness. My support from 🇧🇷

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Don't ask for forgiveness you Did nothing wrong.

[@Vivacious_Chaos]

Thank you ladies so much for this. I'm in the U.S. and I'm a CSA, SA, and Sex trafficking survivor. I'm literally trying to pull myself to life after another traumatic incident. Your stories,experience, care, support, and advocacy is so refreshing to see. Please keep the voice for people like me who are just focused on surviving. Keep doing the amazing things yall are doing. Thank you 💜

[@saturn0152]

You are strong and amazing. Keep growing

[@cherryfairyy]

Love to you. Me too but not the CSA and also DV. I hope youre okay

[@mayapope-sutherland6146]

Wow LadBible as a platform has really stepped up the game! Love these brilliant women/people! Have seen some of their individual interviews. Im in AWE at the content i am seeing this international womens day. Well done for holding such a concise discussion. Lots of trauma, still slayin'! Yo go 🎉 *power fist*

[@Great_WesternTVFan]

It is so good seeing everyone from all of the communities discussing the child abuse, the child neglect, child marriage and honour killings and fgm.

[@robinsnestradio]

Looking forward to watching this. Happy International Women's Day ♀️

[@khadijahbegum3546]

​​​@suprarcjpop545brev tell me what women do to men. As far as I can tell by stats you men do more to them. Let's not compare now. It's not comparable. You make women go through the worse 90% of the time. You're "issues" are because of the so called "patriachy" that's it, not because of women.

[@khadijahbegum3546]

​@suprarcjpop545brev tell me what women do to men. As far as I can tell by stats you men do more to them. Let's not compare now. It's not comparable. You make women go through the worse 90% of the time. You're "issues" are because of the so called "patriachy" that's it, not because of women.

[@orion.6]

​@suprarcjpop545 Today's men's day! And so is tomorrow! And the next day! And the day after that too!

[@Lara-rm3gs]

@suprarcjpop545if the only time you mention Men’s day is on/during conversations about Women’s day you do not genuinely care about men, you just want to minimize women.

[@janebuckland737]

Thank you so much ladies for sharing this. I am female white 65 and so proud you are bringing new thinking, for your past I feel pain.. for your futures I am hopeful . You Go Girls… and may Peace Guide Your Every Step ❤❤❤❤❤

[@kaylamarcellaz4312]

Thank you all for your time to have these conversations and spread it. I’m a 23 year old single mum, I’m Irish and my daughter is half Somali. The narcissistic abuse I receive from my daughters fathers family is disgusting. I’m genuinely terrified to leave her with them, I don’t trust them one bit.

[@arundathirose7563]

May God protect you and your daughter and deliver you justice hopefully you can find services to help in ireland do search on the interent there is bound to be some

[@chihirostargazer6573]

All cultures are not equal... some are dangerous, especially for women. European culture is not compatible with those backwards places and mentality. People are too accepting of those cultures because they think it's cool or "progressive", or that it's racist or xenophobic to be criticising them but it's not... it's self preservation.

[@dariashendrik3590]

Don't leave her alone with them, all these Somali traditions exist in the West.

[@kambua]

The best conversation I’ve listened to in a long time. Thank you ladies for speaking up for so many women. Love from 🇰🇪

[@rmmr1168]

This is actually feminism. So proud and thrilled to see them platformed.

[@AdiR0707]

Look at this room ! The power, the resilience, the human spirit ❤ this is so touching and empowering at the same time !

[@Platoson]

What an amazing video and such incredible women. As a man I feel all men should listen to this and learn from it so all types of violence, injustice and inequality can end towards all women. Then women can do what they were meant to do which is to bring more love, peace and compassion into the world. We definitely need it now. Thank you LADbible. 🙏

[@Nero_James-BILLIONYEAR_SP]

Very well said!

[@CoRLex-jh5vx]

Bro women weren't 'meant to bring love and compassion into the world'. They're just human beings. None of us are 'meant' to do anything, we're brought into this world by chance and make of it what we will. Reducing women to 'happy sunshiney positive all the time' is just a different form of sexism

[@BarnsOfChris]

​@@CoRLex-jh5vx I'm sure he didn't mean it like that. And in times where women on social media are down right demonized as evil manipulative people who want to control and abuse.. I at least would like to hear more of positive traits here and there. Don't try to be offended for the sake of it. That surely won't change anything.

[@PoisonArr0w]

@@CoRLex-jh5vx As a woman this person is obviously very sweet and wasn't trying to say that. I get your point though

[@CoRLex-jh5vx]

@PoisonArr0w I've already said, whether he meant it 'that way' or not, saying any group of humans is "meant" to do anything is harmful and reductive. If all women are "meant to spread happiness" then what does that mean for those who don't? It's basically just the same ideology as catcallers who order women to smile, same as the whole existence of the term 'resting bitch face' while men with the same expression are 'probably just thinking about something'. Women aren't magical pixies who flit about all smiles and sunshine, and only exist to cheer men up. Thinking that way is just exchanging one form of sexism for another and puts women on a pedestal they will inevitably be punished for falling from. I've been there, done that. It doesn't work. Subtler sexism is still sexism.

[@pinkfairydust83]

Nina is such a strong woman. She is eloquent, wise and so emotionally intelligent and aware. Could listen to her all day. Would love to see more of this!

[@londonslifecoach]

It’s Nina Thank you I appreciate you ❤

[@chillfluencer]

Horrible deeds! Respect to these women for being able to speak about it.

[@theshelbscopyme6678]

You ladies purpose will save thousands of women I claim it . God Bless you all 🙏🏾

[@EVERDIDI]

How raw and honest ! The ending hug is beautiful ! Thank you ladies for rising above the terribly negative and difficult load ! You are all an inspiration ! May G-d Almighty bless you all !

[@ammiliev9203]

This is so beautiful. All the ladies are legend within themselves. Hail too all these beautiful queen who would like to change the world into the better place.

[@londonslifecoach]

It’s Nina. Thank you for taking the time out to watch this group session.

[@godSPARDA1995]

Happy International Womens day to all of our wonderful women, queens, fighters and every girl with a hopefully bright and safe future!! Once again, there was another group rape towards a little girl in Vienna… she died.. It broke my heart and made me sick and angry. Women and girls deserve better…

[@holistichealingyoga]

This was just so beautiful to witness, listen and experience. Especially on International Women’s Day! ❤

[@vitoriafactor7571]

Im so proud of them I could cry thank you for sharing and showing us strength in all different ways

[@LoneWulf278]

Absolutely loved this conversation. Thank for you for organizing this! ❤

[@carmenbenitez141]

Some women here can’t believe that some women could be as cruel as men! Feminism is not about being against men but recognizing that inhumane behaviors could be exhibited by any person!

[@ningiyizhuo]

the point is that culture has created environments where it is normalised for men to be violent against women. nobody's saying that women are not perpetrators as well - it's just that men commit violence on a much larger scale, with the reason for it being that many cultures across the world to this day dehumanise women to the point where violence committed against them is considered just another day. yes this culture has decreased immensely in the western world, for example, however the mindset of "women are objects to be used" is still very much alive

[@meganwassell326]

Not you missing the topics discussed and point of this entire video.🙄 No one said a woman cannot also be an abuser.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@ningiyizhuo You do know men Stop men from Doing that right?? & are the ones that Protect them.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@meganwassell326 People mind as well Say it that attitude is Growing more & more.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

​@@ningiyizhuo They do the same To men too, it's not Only women this Victim mindset has To stop.

[@NinaB1977]

Come together and heal nothing more powerful than voices being heard. Power is not violence it is ending the cycle inside of us.

[@kanikajoshi8759]

Real power of sisterhood! Love this ❤️

[@asiaabdillahi7908]

❤❤❤ specially what Shamsa said about helping youngsters back to their homes is close to my heart. Thank you on behalf of all the people that ever felt stuck in a country where most definetely nobody will ask you " how are you?".

[@asiaabdillahi7908]

@Shamsa how can I contact you?

[@emilyjane9901]

Women deserve better.. especially all the little girls going through this right now in the world.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Yes they do & so do men & Boys.

[@cheetavontiebolt9971]

Abuse is not culture

[@AM-rg5cd]

These ladies are examples of you can’t use childhood trauma as a reason to hurt or be violent towards other people. Just like everything else, it’s always up to you on which path you choose. These women chose to use childhood trauma as inspiration to be better in life.

[@talkwithhafs3950]

A powerful conversation! I hope every woman on this panel has stood for all Palestinian women and girls, women who are currently victims of r*pe🇵🇸🍉

[@swagestmoodmaker]

There are women that are globally affected by rape, infact it's not just women it's also men. Palestinians aren't the only subject of debate when something horrific happens. Rape happens to people, men, women, children, infants globally in the past, future and present.

[@thecolourgreen8891]

@@swagestmoodmakeryes that’s true I’m sure the commenter knows that. But it’s important to lift voices for everyone. There are many stories of IDF soldiers who have that advantage of their power to abuse these women but many people only focus on what Hamas has done

[@fullup91]

FGM is absolutely abhorrent!!! This needs to be criminalised!

[@jiminshii55]

labour by paris paloma is playing in my head while i was listening to this conversation. this was so so powerful, thank you ladies for being the voices for so many women and girls and always trying to change the future for the better for this generation and the next ♥️

[@achiengmigaya7428]

This is truly profound. There is a bit of every woman in each of your personal stories, something relatable I also do think that there is a spark of feminism in every woman. Even though some women do not want to associate with the label feminism, owing to the bad wrap on conventional media. The women that I have interacted with make decisions that clearly goes against the grain of patriarchy's wishes. I have seen women walk out of marriages that didn't serve them I have seen women take up space in the workplace and own the space and deliver without self sabotage I have seen women who openly declare their intention to remain childless and unmarried. Thank you for this video It truly embodies intersectional feminism

[@ntbri]

Thank you so much ladies ❤

[@patriciadavis1393]

I love this kind of content where women go through some terrible horrible experiences but they learn from those experiences and want to empower other women❤❤❤❤ honestly I'm just at the beginning and I have major Goosebumps over my whole body😮😮 blessings to you all and all the wonderful woman in this world from Toronto😊😊😊😊😊

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Yet they aren't talking to Men, men are again left Out of the conversation.

[@wandaeises1307]

Thank you for sharing your stories with us.❤ I am so very grateful for it.

[@tamikax9738]

These women are incredible and an inspiration such courage and strength to use their voices this way. Thank you @LADbible

[@Trishewishe]

Thank you Ladies for sharing your true stories and it will raise awareness and help others. Making a difference and truth should be told so our now and future generations will be protected. Still fighting this justice!

[@vannah.113]

From the beginning just hearing all the ladies list the different types of abuse they unfortunately experienced, was amazing💜

[@BetaGolchin]

Wow this was so powerful thank you ladies! Bless you for all you are doing for us women in the world

[@zhixinli7826]

For men that want to say that feminism is basically female above male. It's not. That's not their point. Their point is that everyone, absolutely everyone, should be on the same level, and equal. The love, the education, the social standing, and everything around it should be the same for women and men.

[@Drankovich]

Well what is your definition? Because many women take that extreme prescribed definition that men should be lesser than women and automatically demonised to achieve 'parity' which is fundamentally wrong. Nobody wants to be a victim but you can't pretend that there aren't people that hijacked 'feminism' for their own misanthropic gains over the years. Many people who are enlightened with good stable upbringing do not contest the idea women should be able to live unaccosted for merely existing, but the 'feminist' leaders & talking heads do not engage with cultural practices against women abroad & at home for fear of being labelled a 'culturally insensitive'. Hence why the police are hesitant to act on reports. Try convincing these supercilious people to stop fabricating luxury problems, to see real life issues like these and you might win normal people over. The well has been poisoned so a new term is needed.

[@samsamosman6351]

Well done to all the ladies! This was very powerful and important stuff. All the women spoke so well but I wish the hijabi wasn’t interrupted so much

[@Rosa-rm6op]

I am blowed away by such grace and intelligence. This encounter was not long enough. Brilliant testimony. Thanks a lot for sharing with us this moment. I feel blessed and empower as a woman.

[@englishwithyaara7591]

Very interesting and important talk. All are such powerful women!

[@tralalaladee]

yall are our queens because some of you experienced traumatic events that ultimately will better prepare others to be vigilant towards the women that are silently enduring your past traumas. On behalf of all women, we love and support you and wish we could have been there as an army of women to kick anyone’s a** that tried messing with any of you beautiful ladies. You are our future and our hope thank you for sharing ❤

[@MuseandherFeelings]

Happy International Women's Day 💛

[@MrsSethMacFarlane]

35:42 so much therapy taught me this and to hear another woman say it makes me feel so seen. I have ALWAYS known who I was. The people responsible for raising me just didnt like who that was enough to empower it

[@Beeboo22]

💯💯your last line is so powerful.

[@sheenabasdew6719]

Such inspiration....you give me such strength ❤

[@hhunstad2011]

I wish for a world where "women didn't have to strategize to survive" and succeed.

[@annap8420]

Many thanks to all the women in this video

[@SarahBoss2020]

Such a inspiring group of amazing, courageous women ❤️ I loved this ❤️

[@liszaf3976]

Firstly I would like to say Wow you are all amazing, strong and beautiful woman, I'm so sorry to hear of how you have suffered at the hands of your family and your communities, but also wrong (especially the Turkish Lady) to think that all women are not bought up equally anywhere in the world. I grew up in an English family in the UK like my friends and female cousins, we grew up with parents that encouraged us, educated us and we are equally as equipt financially and emotionally to survive in this world, with or without a man! We had amazing fathers and brothers who have stood by us and treated us as equals. Your communities and in many cases your religion allows these despicable things to happen and it is fantastic to finally see the fight back, we will be 100% behind you, please keep up the good fight and lets stop men using religion and culture as a way of control, for the sake of your daughters!!

[@cheetavontiebolt9971]

Thank you for helping.females.overcome backward conditioning

[@NecroPandaDaps]

This is the type of round table we need. No more goofy as$ celebrities talking nonsense and that they """struggle""" even with their privilege.

[@CariLWill]

Wow! Survivors! Warriors!

[@Thehermitist]

4:46 well said!! Or they say oh it’s not that bad. It’s ur emotional state! U are all so empowering. Our suffering turning into a gift when we help others work through it feel it and we remain the kind of people who hate all injustices and hold our hands and hearts out for others! Leaders and healers sister MashAllah! I’m proud of u all! MashAllah

[@DobellShannon]

Respect and love to every single one of these woman. We need to be equal. We need to be able to love whoever we want to love.

[@janebuckland737]

I have only just started listening.. You Beautiful Brave Women ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Gothixarchitecture]

FGM is a common practice in Somalia and it goes back thousands of years which has been derived from ancient Egyptian practices

[@powderandpaint14]

It's still totally unneeded and wrong.

[@ayishalifts9635]

“Stuck in survival mode” that got me

[@YinYang333]

glad the entire world is realizing that we’re able to take back our rightful power of pure good and happiness (which women are the embodiment of)

[@marinalvamacielpacheco1510]

Congrats girls..thanks for showing the world how strong you are ..keep it up It's the first time l've heard something horrible like that A big hug for you all.

[@hannah51238]

Thank you ❤

[@donnasloan894]

Mad respect for these incredibly strong women

[@amystewart4865]

18:29 was waiting for this one to open up. What a strong women.

[@KekeniaDianga]

Proud to see the sisters 🤩

[@kayleighweldon7855]

This is a nuanced discussion. Abusive beliefs are not culture they are beliefs.

[@Tinjinladakh]

Happy international women day

[@Shadowhunter995]

More people needs to see this

[@BlackfootTalezNTours]

Lots of love, and prayers to all you strong inspirational Women! Keep Sharing, and keep Rizin!

[@Pearrlsdimondz]

This was beautiful ❤❤

[@jammmbamm2661]

This was amazing !

[@NW4456]

As a man, this is the kind of feminism i believe in

[@mahoganysoul1798]

as opposed to what?

[@Gothixarchitecture]

Feminism is giving women the right to choose what they want to do with their bodies and their lives

[@airplanedude3103]

​@@mahoganysoul1798 There are feminists who believe women are better than men instead of equal to men. As opposed to them, OP feels like these are the real feminists fighting for what is right.

[@sokhachen4556]

All of you are amazing!

[@Yahyahsouth401]

Yall are so strong ive dealt with stuff but nothing like this and i can't talk about it y'all are so strong its really hard to talk about it

[@mannatrattan]

This is such a beautiful view of beautiful people. I could see them and get unending strength.

[@Pineapplex1990x]

what beautiful and strong woman, i loved this conversation.

[@emeraldheart415]

Your Mum is AWESOME!!!

[@poizen-ivy]

Wow, such impressive and courageous women!!

[@vasco4672]

💖 amazing ladies 💖

[@commonsense571]

Bless you🌹💪🏼

[@carbine090909]

The group hug at the end. ❤

[@itsalwaysteatime3803]

Well done ladies ❤❤❤

[@fimanu]

We are women, we are feminists, we are still here, and this is our struggle. Unapologetically present!

[@ssaandraaaa6486]

Amazing ladies, different, but like one. Very sorry for what you went through!

[@rosiebegum225]

thank u, for doing this, it shows the realm.i came out. after years of trauma, my son is still held.15 years away from me, evil brothers his wife, from Bangladeshi community.its so sad, i have two siblings absolutely abusive, hidden agendas,.though my son hes at university, and doing wrll, this is all i know in fifteen year's,

[@ashleyvaughn5213]

Great discussion.

[@Thehermitist]

Inshallah humanity gets justice ‘ Oh my ladies my sisters My heart beats for u and all u have ever and so suffer! Enough is enough I’m sorry Alhamdulilla

[@pon1952leod]

“Polite” society has allowed crimes against women to be normalized. Thank you to these brave women for telling their truth.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

It's normalized against Both genders.

[@oa2dtop]

I don’t know if it’s possible if ladbible can post the links to these woman personal interviews . I remember I watched the interview of the two women on the left on ladbible. I will like to watch others as well

[@carathorsven3326]

As a woman in the united states i can say that I have in almost every situation had equal power to men and power in different ways than men. There have been a few instances that gender bias effected me but i have also seen it affect men here. Not the same as these women but still the story of a woman. Proud of these beautiful ladies for speaking out and standing strong ❤

[@pattheticc]

Everybody needs to see this

[@loverfighterscourge]

When Rubie said that her son said "I'm so proud of you", I almost cried.

[@javonestephens7856]

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 can’t wait to watch this