Michael Jordan has no case to be the number 1 NBA player of all time. He has no case to be the number 1 NBA shooting guard of all time. He never had a case to be the number 1 NBA player when he was in the NBA. If you are going to rank players, lots of players are better than him. Lots of players could beat him in a one on one game. He doesn't have the best NBA statistics of all time. He is not the best scorer of all time. He is the most overrated sports star in the history of mankind. And I could give you more examples, but you get the point.............Also, Michael Jordan fans have lots of takes where they are wrong, or where they make things up, or where they contradict themselves, or where they move the goal post, or where they don't do enough research, or where they cherry pick things, or where they are not consistent, or where they react in a negative way if someone has a take that they think is taking away from Michael Jordan..........Also, Michael Jordan fans are the worst sports fans of all time, and they are the flat Earthers of the NBA world then.....................Now, if you disagree, you can go on my program and show me why you are right. If you want to go on email TheTelephoneUniverse@Gmail.Com...........And now watch how most Michael Jordan fans will ignore all this, and they won't go on my podcast to show me how they're right on whatever they disagree on, and they will get annoyed, and they will write something negative online...........and you know why they are like this?.............Because they know that they have no proof that will prove that I am wrong on whatever they disagree on, and they are in love with Michael Jordan, and they have too much pride to admit that they are wrong in anything, and they are not educated on the NBA.
@Steve-gx9ot8 күн бұрын
You MORON GAS LIGHTER, EFF OFF DODO BRAIN LOL
@MikeCee73 ай бұрын
It’s really incredible to hear someone’s voice recording, who started playing baseball, way back in 1895. 2:05
@jimmyjakes18232 ай бұрын
Wagner has sort of an old fashioned American speech rhythm where he lets the sentences trail off, but he basically sounds like any granddad you'd run into in a small town. What I notice when watching these really old interviews is that the media people's accents change a lot over time. The guy asking the questions has that 1950's showbiz voice, like he's doing a comedy bit.
@Kenneth-c4j2 ай бұрын
It is.👍
@hanzzarkov76902 ай бұрын
I was thinking that as i was listening. Absolutely.
@steelers6titlesАй бұрын
@@jimmyjakes1823 Honus retired to Carnegie, Pa., across the river from the "Burgh. And you could indeed run into him at local establishments there. He always had a place in the Pirates dugout.
@Dumballa2 ай бұрын
I could listen to Honus talk baseball everyday for the rest of my life and I’d be happy and better for it.
@herbs2752 ай бұрын
That's how good he was boys.
@ProudGoyim66629 күн бұрын
agreed indeed. america is great, or WAS-until ruined by certain mindframes.
@sue084013 ай бұрын
Notice the part where he said the sharpened their spikes - They were metal and yep they sharpened them and when they slid into a base they had a leg with sharpened spikes up so the fielder had to be careful. Dad was a pro in the 1930's
@mplslawnguy33893 ай бұрын
Ty Cobb notoriously sharpened his spikes and was quite the mean SOB from what I’ve read. Totally different time with tough, tough people. They went through real hardship in those days, which produced tough men. Look at how we live today, and look at some of the men we produce now, if you can even call them that.
@poopshoes75792 ай бұрын
@@mplslawnguy3389you say tougher, I say better; they had respect, standards AND balls
@Geferulf_TAS2 ай бұрын
@mplslawnguy3389 Yeah, its do tough and manly to cheat and try to intentionally maim fellow opponents to take them out of games or end their careers
@richrodgers99612 ай бұрын
@@mplslawnguy3389according to the internet, there are lots of manly men out there
@wrsmith7112 ай бұрын
the metal is known as steel.
@douglassun84563 ай бұрын
It's first thing in the morning and I already learned something today! I never knew that "Honus" was a short form of "Johannes."
@rockyk19502 ай бұрын
Listen. Honus is pronounced with a soft O, as in “on“. Not a long ago like the interviewer is doing. Listen to the way honest says his name himself. He is from Carnegie, Pennsylvania, a couple miles outside of Pittsburgh. The absolute greatest shortstop of all time, no doubt. No question. All you want, but you were wrong.
@sawgames86232 ай бұрын
They're all forms of 'Yohanan' with 'John' being the most common in English, so YOU'RE wrong.
@sawgames86232 ай бұрын
@@rockyk1950also, Honus's name is literally Johannes. You are a complete ldiot.
@gargenfluckgosphenspiels48492 ай бұрын
Honusly I didn't know either
@G_v._Losinj2_ImportantPlaylist2 ай бұрын
@@sawgames8623Ioannes in Latin and the German is closest
@HarveyMazel-ts8np3 ай бұрын
This interview is from 1946, possibly from ‘45 or ‘44. Honus makes that known when he makes a remark about the Reds current manager at the time, Bill McKechnie.
@7Steveski3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dfyt91793 ай бұрын
Do you know the interviewer? Ernie Harwell?
@zRevol2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Crazy how it’s not in the description and I had to scroll through the comments for a couple minutes to find this.. blows my mind how most people ARENT curious when the interview took place..
@KevinDonlin2 ай бұрын
@@dfyt9179Lifelong Tiger fan here: That’s not Ernie 😊
@ElectricCompany2 ай бұрын
It could even be as early as '42, Coscarat's first year with the Pirates. McKechnie would have been managing the Reds then as well. I'd love to find the exact year.
@Paul-lm5gv3 ай бұрын
Fascinating to hear one of the great ballplayers talk about the old days!
@hcreek2 ай бұрын
My grandfather was born in 1889 and raised in Pittsburgh. He spoke of watching Honus Wagner play.
@keeosama2 ай бұрын
What was his best story
@capacola262743Ай бұрын
@@keeosama "i saw honus wagner play, by crackie!" the end.
@ProudGoyim66629 күн бұрын
Nice, man!
@davidca962 ай бұрын
its crazy hearing Honus Wagners voice, and how valuable his baseball card is.
@NoPlanNoProb2 ай бұрын
How valuable is it? My grandpa has a few
@timorean3202 ай бұрын
@@NoPlanNoProb1 recently sold at auction for like 7 Million. These were cards that you got with Tobacco, which he was against, there is a story behind it, hence the rarity of card. I doubt its one of those, but any Honus in fair condition would bring a pretty penny. PSA does grading, get them graded, go from there. Condition is everything.
@9ZERO62 ай бұрын
@@NoPlanNoProb some original (and most are most definitely not) cards are worth millions. I think the most valuable card sold to date is a Honus Wagner.
@jtq-81Ай бұрын
@@9ZERO6 The 1909 T206 Wagner graded SGC 2 is actually the second highest selling card in history with a price of $7.25M
@CADClicker23 күн бұрын
@@NoPlanNoProb He doesn't but I hope you got the attention you were looking for
@just_nate_86942 ай бұрын
First time I've heard him talk ... goosebumps like crazy ❤️
@tubularbillАй бұрын
Priceless. Just priceless. One of the greatest of all time.
@HouMat-if5fi3 ай бұрын
He started playing 30 years after the civil war.
@HouMat-if5fi2 ай бұрын
@Don-rl1sm You don't even know how to use punctuation, genius.
@Snowmelt_Forever2 ай бұрын
@Don-rl1sm that's cute
@ericbutler7392 ай бұрын
Context is everything, very interesting perspective.
@ericbutler7392 ай бұрын
@Don-rl1smWow, you need to lay off the crazy bro.
@IHT.3692 ай бұрын
@Don-rl1sm this aggression will cause you to be reported
@plantfeeder66773 ай бұрын
This was fantastic! What a time capsule. Loved it thank you!
@stpaulimdog3 ай бұрын
You got a Honus Wagner recording. Nice!
@BigBobber193 ай бұрын
Honus how would you do against these young pitchers today? I'd probably only hit .270 against them. You have a lifetime batting average of .330, why would you only hit .270? Because I'm 75 you dope!
@ibott503 ай бұрын
That was actually Ty Cobb
@BigBobber193 ай бұрын
@@ibott50 I know...I stole it.
@ibott503 ай бұрын
😂
@ryetim323 ай бұрын
THAT was Ty Cobb
@DWilliam13 ай бұрын
Ted Williams quote.
@rand49er2 ай бұрын
Very interesting to hear his actual voice.
@chazdomingo4752 ай бұрын
Man still remembered the name of the train conductor that took him to Steubenville 50 years prior.
@jto76Ай бұрын
Dean Martin's hometown!
@toddsmods.623Ай бұрын
Big Red baby.
@ryetim323 ай бұрын
"Come for 35 or stay home" LOL
@lexhawkins74423 ай бұрын
Yeah, I caught that too, then had to ride a coal train to get there!
@tct842 ай бұрын
😂I lol at that too
@rondempesmeier18452 ай бұрын
I believe Honus made the right choice.
@John-pc3cxАй бұрын
This interview is gold.
@Rockhound61652 ай бұрын
Am I the only one fascinated at how people talked back then?
@nathanpapp432Ай бұрын
Its just the host with that awful Mid-Atlantic nonsense.
@JohnMonsterCanadaАй бұрын
@@nathanpapp432 and the announcer sounds like a young Bob Costas
@reybarreto7979Ай бұрын
This recording is pure gold. To hear legendary Honus Wagner’s voice, it’s like finding the Holy Grail. It’s like resurrecting the legend, bringing him back to life so we can hear his gravelly voice telling us a story and giving us a glimpse of the person behind the voice, and for a moment the legend becomes flesh and blood again, able to communicate to us and confirm the brutal and barbaric history of early baseball, how ball players would sharpen their spikes in hopes of inflicting as much damage as possible to the opposing team, and how pitchers would aim for the head, purposely hitting the opposing players to earn more money, and Wagner would know because he lived through those days, he himself had spikes lunging at him and balls thrown at him, but Wagner emerged as the best among them, he survived the brutality and, through his own toughness and superhuman skills, he ascended to the sublime heights of the immortals like Ty Cobb. These legendary ball players were not saints, they were as nasty and ruthless as those they battled against, but they distinguished themselves through their heroics on the ball field. Although they were not saints, Christy Mathewson, Walter Johnson, and Honus Wagner were known for being more dignified than other players of their era. While they may not have been saints, these men were something greater - they were gods - and they will forever be the immortal gods of baseball.
@garymorris18563 ай бұрын
Wagner was an absolute beast physically, just at his build and his arms.
@SimpleManGuitars19733 ай бұрын
Go watch some videos in color of Lou Gehrig. The dude looked like an absolute Greek statue.
@garymorris18563 ай бұрын
@@SimpleManGuitars1973 I have, and yes, Gehrig's upper torso is impressive.
@SimpleManGuitars19733 ай бұрын
@@garymorris1856 His thighs too. He'd probably be great in any era.
@garymorris18563 ай бұрын
@@SimpleManGuitars1973 I agree, he also would have been a great football player.
@SimpleManGuitars19733 ай бұрын
@@garymorris1856 What's crazy is he naturally looked like what all the roided out 90's players had to cheat to look like.
@mikegazanchyan24233 ай бұрын
Wow really enjoyed this. Going to have my 4th grader listen to this on the ride home after school today.
@charleshonig70803 ай бұрын
Wow, The Legend comes to Life!😊
@ronames63942 ай бұрын
;-) ... Truly one of the All-time GGGreatest! Thanx for the historic share :))
@ronames63942 ай бұрын
Note, His Baseball cards R worth a fortunate. Rare to find n worth Millions in the collectors' markets. I believe his highly valued card was just over $ 7 million :Dollars.
@docmalthus3 ай бұрын
I recall when Wagner encountered Ty Cobb on the field for the first time. Cobb was taunting Wagner, calling him sauerkraut, etc. The first time Wagner got a chance to tag him out he tagged Cobb's mouth, splitting his lip. You better believe it was tougher in those days!
@DonTrump-sv1si3 ай бұрын
That was before the jews took over and made males more feminine and vice versa
@BeckVMH3 ай бұрын
Their first occasion on the field together was the 1909 World Series. If that story were true, Wagner wasn’t too offended because they’d been hunting together in Georgia by Dec 1909; source: NY Times, Dec 7, 1909. It was in fact, a different era as Wagner so eloquently described in the latter part of this interview 3:19 and the game allowed it.
@Ken4Pyro3 ай бұрын
@@BeckVMH Excellent reply. It's worth noting that Wagner and Cobb played in two different leagues, and would likely never have been on the field at the same time, except perhaps during spring training when interleague play was not uncommon, or perhaps a World Series as you noted. Bravo to you BeckVMH!
@syrupofwahoo30593 ай бұрын
Luv it fellas, 61 yr old dude who loved baseball history and this is pura vida of baseball 🫶
@jaykaufman97823 ай бұрын
Willie McCovey of the San Francisco Giants used to tag runners hard, but I don't think he ever smashed someone in the face.
@stephenmitchell63683 ай бұрын
I think old Honus was probably right! Baseball was rougher and tougher in his day than today: No batting helmet, a single ball that might go several innings (becoming darker with each handling), much smaller rosters, limited medical staff, etc., etc.
@AndyZach3 ай бұрын
Plus spitballs were legal, scuffed balls made it curve unpredictably, and they had to travel by train, not airplane. No air conditioning.
@lovedavantlamour3013 ай бұрын
Also , today's ballplayer is the son of a former ballplayer , or some other 6 figure white collar profession , while back then an overwhelming majority were of coal miner stock
@dr.migilitoloveless23853 ай бұрын
Also the poorly padded gloves.
@andrews2783 ай бұрын
They can keep all that bs hahahah
@ICLight4123 ай бұрын
You realize he’s talking about 1900s vs 1930-40s not today 🤣 If he would see today’s baseball it be a different world and game.
@philwood10202 ай бұрын
It's wonderful to have this recording. One note: in 1897, Wagner's rookie year in the majors, Kid Nichols pitched for the Boston Nationalls. He never pitched for Washington.
@cowyemrsox3 ай бұрын
Mr. Wagner spoke very plainly and matter of fact here. It shows he was a very grounded man concerned with tangible things he experienced in his day to day life. Playing baseball is a very down to earth physical activity requiring you to be in touch with your surroundings in a straight forward manner. No wonder he excelled at it.
@sfk1066Ай бұрын
Very well said!!
@johnrobbins917Ай бұрын
a transcript of this recording is needed
@johnrobbins917Ай бұрын
great interview
@davemaki48883 ай бұрын
He just looks strong. Killebrew worked on the farm lifting milk containers, both had big forearms which mean manual labor not just lifting weights. It looks like he could hit using that strong jaw.
@B00G19643 ай бұрын
His hands were huge if you look at his pics look at his hands they are more like paws .
@douglassun84563 ай бұрын
That's a good point. The sportswriter Jim Murray once wrote that it was no surprise when farm boys developed into star athletes.
@lexhawkins74423 ай бұрын
Yep, and Honus was working in a Pennsylvania coal mine at 12 years old. Tough, tough guys in every respect.
@DwightStJohn-t7y2 ай бұрын
@@B00G1964 My grandfather in New Hampshire played semi-pro? and his hands were twice the size of mine, and he was only 5 foot 4 inches. But solid.
@prairiehills4162 ай бұрын
The bats in those days were very heavy. You had to be strong to swing one.
@sailordude20943 ай бұрын
Steel spikes and no batting helmets back then! The umpires probably didn't throw players out as much either. Thanks for the rare baseball interview!
@lexhawkins74423 ай бұрын
Indeed, tough, tough guys. Now we have a generation who demand “safe spaces” and are offended if someone calls them a name.
@bijouxdoum61992 ай бұрын
Also, the Babe used a 36" 38oz Bat.
@ProfileRacing892 ай бұрын
Watch the Skenes/ Ump incident Jomboy posted. Never seen an ump so offended over nothing in my life.
@darrinlygrisse5287Ай бұрын
Steel spikes were the norm till a few years ago.
@lexhawkins7442Ай бұрын
@@darrinlygrisse5287 I think metal spikes were banned in the major league in 1976.
@steelers6titlesАй бұрын
Still arguably the greatest shortstop in baseball history.
@paulsamora13483 ай бұрын
Players back in the day played with the same injuries that keep a player today on the 90 day IR.
@beaujac3113 ай бұрын
I bet they played horribly. Sore armed pitchers giving up all kinds of hits. Baseballs dropping in the outfield because players with leg injuries should not be playing.
@HenryAllenKW3 ай бұрын
@@beaujac311 Exactly! If those players were putting up those kinds of numbers while playing injured, just think about what they could have accomplished if they were fully healthy. It really speaks to their incredible talent and mental toughness. They weren't just physically strong-they had the mental grit to push through the pain and still perform at a high level. Their records are even more impressive when you consider the challenges they overcame, both physically and mentally.
@larrylarry63623 ай бұрын
@@beaujac311Exactly-you’ll manage your players a *little* differently when you have another 8 years at $14 million per year guaranteed after this year. “Go ahead and take some time off bro, get healthy, we need you in the league until at least 2027”
@beaujac3113 ай бұрын
@@HenryAllenKW What I'm saying is that those players had no choice but to play even when they were hurt. That doesn't mean that they were mentally stronger because they played hurt. I bet a lot of them were afraid if they took a game off they would be replaced. You did not want your backup to get a chance to shine.
@dan-vv8gs3 ай бұрын
You sound like a jewish powder puff boy.😅@@beaujac311
@JeffreySmith-hx9hb3 ай бұрын
Wagner was also a very fast runner. He race a horse around the bases and they tied. He was built like a bodybuilder in his days. No one would mess with him unless you knew you could get away with it or unless you can out run him.
@pinverarity3 ай бұрын
That’s misleading because the angles rounding the bases are sharp and horses would have to swing way beyond the base paths to make the turn. Two legs is a huge advantage over four legs when maneuverability is key. 😉
@BigBobber193 ай бұрын
At one time or another Mickey Mantle probably said it too. But the originator is Ty Cobb when he was 72.
@jamesmooney89332 ай бұрын
One time Cobb ran to 3rd base, Wagner decked Cobb.
@fagan41192 ай бұрын
Man I could listen to him all day.
@Sir_Osis3 ай бұрын
50 years old and I had no idea his name was John. Cool
@minnesotafats814019 күн бұрын
No filler in his answers; succinct, cogent, and insightful
@rman52Ай бұрын
Not only one of the greatest of all time. But the only player that objected to having tobacco companies make baseball cards with his name on it. Like the Babe, he loved kids. And didn't want them smoking.
@johnkeviljr96252 ай бұрын
What a fabulous image. What a face to represent baseball. I love the cap.
@stevenschwartzstein45022 ай бұрын
To me the amazing thing is the game is the game. Hasn't really changed in 120 years or so. Can't really say that about a lot of sports. To hear him talk and describe situations, the strategies and everything are the same. All you gotta do is execute. So simple!
@pjmlegrande27 күн бұрын
Don’t throw the ole bean ball as much today, though. Haha
@mdmjeremiah3 ай бұрын
He played for my old hometown Steubenville
@hillbilly4christ638Ай бұрын
These pansies we have nowadays couldn’t cut it with these old players. No wonder people idolized baseball players. These were some tough men!
@chalkbunt813 ай бұрын
Was it tougher then, Mr. Wagner? " To be Honus, yes it was".
@writerconsideredАй бұрын
He didn't just over .300, He was hitting .340 to .380 for years. .320 would be considered a slump for him. He was also hitting 12-20 homeruns a yr in the dead ball era.
@danam0228Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this
@jeffschreifels86512 ай бұрын
It's always interesting to listen to people from that time. They have that sing song voice that makes them great story tellers. I notice I've been pronouncing his name wrong all this time too. Hah nus not Ho nus.
@OtisMoto2 ай бұрын
My great grandpa gave me a tobacco baseball card with this player. Told me to treasure it and I will. I keep it on my desk at work.
@thelostone69812 ай бұрын
1895…we are closer to 2095 than we are to his first professional baseball game.
@josephambrose2852Ай бұрын
We're closer to 2150 too
@scottmccullough4267Ай бұрын
Whoa…..!!!!!!
@mikepalmer1971Ай бұрын
That’s wild. I did not think about it like that until I read this.
@johnnydeano2288Ай бұрын
I had a teammate named John Wagner & one day an older man who used to come to the games gave him a Honus Wagner card. It was a little worn in one corner, but we didn’t know much about the value of cards then. As a kid we’d clip them to the spokes of our bike wheels. Wags gave the card to a young boy who used to come to the games. A few years later the card industry took off & we wondered if that boy ever made any money off that card.
@MarinCipollinaАй бұрын
Unlikely one of the ultra rare ones..
@riverview93203 ай бұрын
To interviewer - it's pronounced "Ha-ness" - short for Johannes.
@beaujac3113 ай бұрын
But did you notice that Honus pronounced it differently.
@riverview93203 ай бұрын
@@beaujac311 Sure - He said "HA-nus" not HO
@rockyk19502 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct.
@rockyk19502 ай бұрын
@@beaujac311yes
@Diogenes-ty9yy3 ай бұрын
When a was a kid, I remember my paternal grandfather (1881 - 1962) telling me that Mantle, Kaline, Aaron, and Maris were not as great as the old timers and that Cobb, Tris Speaker, and Honus Wagner were the best he'd seen. Being of German ethnicity, he leaned towards Wagner being the best of the bunch. I also remember he also thought it was great when my Dad told him, shortly before he passed, that "Cobb called Maris a 'busher,' " a real insult back in the day. I miss you, grandpa, and the stories you told me.
@t.s.96563 ай бұрын
I noticed Willie Mays wasn't on your Grandfather's list, if it had been, I might have questioned his judgement.
@BigBobber193 ай бұрын
Your gramps and mine were from the same era (1883-1963)...his favorite player was Christie Mathewson. Those fellas saw baseball when it was something else.
@josephambrose28523 ай бұрын
Thanks for the bedtime story It worked great
@BigBobber193 ай бұрын
@@josephambrose2852 Sleep well.
@SFTaYZa3 ай бұрын
Mantle was one of the greatest ever @@t.s.9656
@needsaride15126Ай бұрын
What a great recording. After Roberto Clemente probably the best Pittsburgh Pirate ever.
@donaldwycoff41542 ай бұрын
I've heard of him, read about him, but this is the first time I heard his voice. Didn't know the story of how he got the name "Honus".
@ehjohnboyАй бұрын
“Was baseball tougher when you played?” “Look at my face.”
@BongoBingo172 ай бұрын
Boy this guy must be like over 100 years old, incredible.
@wintercrush5542 ай бұрын
This man was a baseball god. His stats are absolutely stunning.
@williamwatson4625Ай бұрын
He's being regarded in some circles as the greatest baseball player who ever lived. The choice of Babe Ruth as the greatest baseball player of all time is based on the fact that he was a superbly great hitter and had previously been a good pitcher. But Wagner played during the Dead-ball era when home-runs were rare and when stolen bases and hit-and-runs were much more relied upon than home-runs. Plus, Honus could do anything, from hitting a good ball as well as a bad one (if a hit was needed) and pitching, to being a great shortstop. He simply had no weakness.
@dustinsmith40683 ай бұрын
Look at the vascularity in his right forearm in the video. Honus was lean!
@johndreker16133 ай бұрын
People think that current players would go back and dominate that era, but I don't think most would last a week if you could just take them and drop them into a 1900 game. Everything would be worse for them, including just normal living. I'm not sure how many would even go to the plate with no helmet/padding/batting gloves and no new baseballs on every pitch. The pitchers couldn't handle the work. You do it for one day and a 2024 team would probably dominate, even though baseball is more of a skills game than strength, but every day you extended the experiment for the 2024 team would get worse for them. If you reverse it to send a 1900 player to now, every single day would get better for them. They would eventually catch up because the skill, abilities, desire would already be there. Most people rely on the tired argument about pitch velocity being so different. It really wasn't a huge difference, but the batters used heavier bats back then. If their biggest obstacle is switching to a lighter bat, then there is no real obstacle.
@beaujac3113 ай бұрын
The velocity is a huge difference. Those pitchers back then pitched nine innings. I could imagine how much velocity they lost over those innings. When a pitcher throw so many pitches now they are taken out and replaced by someone fresh who is throwing with the same or more velocity.
@johndreker16133 ай бұрын
@@beaujac311 Pitchers back then used to be trained to pitch nine innings, but there are also other huge advantages in their favor as far as keeping velocity. Games were shorter in time, so it was easier to stay fresh. They played during a time when teams valued defense more, so you had 2-3 hitters that you didn't have to worry about. The older pitchers have always said that they can let up with certain players in certain situations. Being the deadball era, guys like Wagner were seeing 100%, but with no one on or a one-sided game, the pitchers would let up. Older hitters were better at putting the ball in play. That kept down walks and strikeouts, leading to lower pitch counts. The hitters went up there choking up on the bat, with shorter contact-oriented swings. Bunts were much more common, ending at-bats in one pitch. If you have to throw 90 pitches in 90 minutes and 67% of the time you weren't throwing full speed, you could reach back late and let it go. As far as some big hitter though, people weren't letting up with guys like Ty Cobb or Honus Wagner, and they wouldn't be letting up with some 2024 player trying to prove a point. If he wasn't getting drilled, he would be seeing the best pitches of everyone, with every trick up their sleeve. If you get quick-pitched and the guy is hitting 80 MPH because he isn't throwing full force, that's still going to look like 100 MPH because you won't be ready for it.
@gj12345678999993 ай бұрын
You make some good points and I don’t necessarily disagree with you, and we share the same sentiment. However, taking the devils advocate in this argument: a lot of players today do come from backgrounds that are as deprived or even worse than American players in the 1890s - think of players that come from rural Cuba or Venezuela today. However it’s not like these players come here and dominate now that they have all this better facilities, gear, and nutrition. They are just another source of talent and no better or worse than American or Japanese players from “wealthy” backgrounds.
@derricktalbot88463 ай бұрын
on the totally opposite side of this conversation... could you imagine Ty Cobb or Honus Wagner... but playing today? With the modern training, diet, sleep... in hand with the data! and the technology available to break down every fraction of their swing? I think it would be a slaughter! .400s for sure year in year out.... and I think the first time someone threw at Cobb's head we'd FINALLY see a batter take the bat with him to the pitchers mound because of how much harder the average pitchers throws :)
@beaujac3113 ай бұрын
@@derricktalbot8846 Those guys would be the same as the guys today.
@Shinobi333 ай бұрын
He insanely built and muscular for the time. Hell even for today
@dannybaseball24443 ай бұрын
Jacked and no steroids. Country strong.
@dougthompson5449Ай бұрын
@@dannybaseball2444 Men back then were strong because there were no chainsaws, power tools etc. They used just raw muscular power to get their work done. I remember my grandpa was around 70 years old and only around 150 pounds but none of my older brothers who were in their late teens could beat him at arm wrestling.
@putsomething16 күн бұрын
The pronunciation of Honus isn’t as the interviewer said, rhyming with “bonus,” which is how many people who have only read it might guess. It’s actually pronounced with a short O as it comes from the name Johannes, also shortened to Hans, and is pronounced similarly. You can hear Honus pronounce it correctly at 1:08.
@justaguy57702 ай бұрын
It's a shame there wasnt podcasts back then. That generation had a lot of stories that we would find absolutely crazy nowadays
@JohnAllen-gg1oz2 ай бұрын
There are books with interviews where they tell many of those great stories. I have one of them.
@jorgejohnson4513 ай бұрын
If he played for today’s Pirates, they would trade him after two years for draft picks.
@blacjackdaniels2003 ай бұрын
Hahah so true..friggin pirates
@RWGish3 ай бұрын
That'd be hard to do since MLB doesn't allow trading draft picks. Probably just trade him for a left-handed Japanese catcher.
@chrisolivo65913 ай бұрын
The Philadelphia A’s were the Pirates/Marlins/Rays/A’s of that era. Connie Mack had 2 Dynasties (1910, 1911, 1913 & 1929, 1930) and sold all the great players in their prime. That’s why they moved out of Philly in 1954 and ironically why they are probably moving out of Oakland. Even 100+ years ago, Baseball had the same problem.
@jorgejohnson4513 ай бұрын
@@RWGish Right. I meant minor league prospects.
@slapjohnson28083 ай бұрын
@@chrisolivo6591 You're right! All this owner collusion is what led to the Black Sox scandal in '19. Players got sick of being cattle.
@markrist4238Ай бұрын
He was my grandfather's teammate. His name is Marty O'Toole. He specialized in the spitball as well as strikeouts and walks.
@Grandizer89893 ай бұрын
Wasn’t the pitching mound higher back then, giving pitcher’s a big advantage?
@erad673 ай бұрын
Not sure what the height was in the 1890s. After the 1968 season, it was lowered. No idea when the '68 height became standard.
@joegti102 ай бұрын
@@erad67 it was any height the home team wanted up to 15 inches. that height became standard in 1950. then it was lowered to 10 inches in 1968.
@Simulera2 ай бұрын
When was this interview made and by whom? It would make it much more interesting to know that I think. Wonderful tape, really. Thanks for putting it up for everyone.
@rociorickles69432 ай бұрын
Just his name tells how tough them ole boys were!
@zeekwolfe6251Ай бұрын
The english spoken today is identical to that in the Civil War and before that, the American Revolutionary War. So, Honus Wagner's voice and accent could be identical to that of Ben Franklin or George Washington. A good interview, thanks for this posting. Oh, I love baseball but was disappointed at the Yankee 5th inning meltdown. I'm also preparing my head bag for opening day at Angel Stadium in Anaheim.
@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes3 ай бұрын
I have one of this fellow’s baseball cards. It looks old like it’s original, but it’s still nice and it’s currently serving as a coaster to protect my new kitchen table because I’ve never heard of him before. Cool video!
@smoceany94783 ай бұрын
i think the original honus baseball card might be in more need of protection than a kitchen table
@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes3 ай бұрын
@@smoceany9478 I wonder if I could trade it for enough green to buy a set of coasters? I have my eye on some spiffy ones I saw at a yard sale this weekend. They are nice and almost new!
@smoceany94783 ай бұрын
@@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes any original wagner card should be enough to fill a house with coasters
@jamfl2 ай бұрын
That's a poor coaster, I reckon. I'll trade you two wooden coasters and a tin ashtray for it because I'm a nice fellow.
@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes2 ай бұрын
@@jamfl I’m gonna need at least a dozen coasters of high quality material and I have no use for an ash tray because I don’t smoke.
@bobearthquakepumpkinfarm74553 ай бұрын
I figure Honus was so mean because he worked at my Grandfather's Sawmill in Mercer during the off season.
@frankcottingham8537Ай бұрын
Damn i love hearing old timers talk about the good ole days, they played through injuries back then that would put today's players on the IL!
@MrK623Ай бұрын
They say he had very large hands and fingers. Like a bunch of bananas. You can't see it in this thumbnail, but I have seen it in other photos and he did have extra large hands and fingers.
@Robert-gg1erАй бұрын
I bought an official NFL (the Duke) at the Honus Wagner Sporting Goods store in Pittsburgh in the 1970's.
@SK-qc6fbАй бұрын
My brother had "Duke", it was his prize possession!
@FurtherReviewАй бұрын
Always wondered how "Honus" was pronounced. What's interesting is that Honus himself pronounces it "HAHN-us," yet the interviewer keeps calling him "HONE-us" even after hearing him say it.
@ProudGoyim66629 күн бұрын
his forest gump crooked /bowed legs aside, he was QUICK AF. nice nice.
@waynewells32973 ай бұрын
The onus was on Honus when he won us the bonus pennant.
@waynewells32973 ай бұрын
@@irtnyc Yeah, yeah, but everyone pronounces it to rhyme with “bonus”
@protamine43 ай бұрын
Say, Honus, since you're here, do you happen to have any T206 baseball cards of yourself you could spare?
@lawrencetaylor41012 ай бұрын
Nice to hear those voices.
@Ryan-mq2mi3 ай бұрын
This was rad, man. Thanks.
@winnypooh81825 күн бұрын
Bob costas has been around for a while
@MrJeffcoley1Ай бұрын
Interesting! I never knew "Honus" was short for "Johannes".
@ronfroehlich46973 ай бұрын
The Flying Dutchman
@crossmooradian80382 ай бұрын
Thanks! I always assumed he would have a German accent and was born overseas because of his first name.
@sess1222 ай бұрын
Sounds damn good for someone interviewed on August 22, 2024, who broke into the majors in 1895!
@josephochlak68532 ай бұрын
The interview was in 1945.
@Iconoclasher28 күн бұрын
Strange. He doesn't sound like I expected. I don't know what I expected but he sounds like a right friendly guy.
@ProudGoyim66629 күн бұрын
it's a priviledge to listen to one of baseball's greats of ALL-TIME. I have pictures of him (in a den) along with Cobb, Ruth, Gerhig. OLD-TIMERS WERE THE BEST, back before the dark times, before ZOGonzoTRIBE.
@universegalaxyuniversegalaxy29 күн бұрын
So woudl you like to go on my prpogram and explain the things you are writing then?
@JacobSanders-zc7sq2 ай бұрын
Odd hearing Honus Wagner talk about 'the old-timers' of baseball.
@spiffyg493924 күн бұрын
You may have noticed that Wagner pronounced his name “HAW-nuss” but he was too polite to correct the guy. Honus was a real gentleman.
@EV-cv5ym2 ай бұрын
It would be nice if you included the year that the recording was made in your liner notes. Based on the Cincinnati manager mentioned toward the end it seems as though this recording was made in the 1930's
@dapper_gent2 ай бұрын
The cake on Honus!!! 🎂🧁
@lawrencewood289Ай бұрын
A great one!
@dapper892Ай бұрын
Amazing!!
@wrc12102 ай бұрын
The thumbnail for this video answers the question in the title: "Yes."
@pokermik3 ай бұрын
Wagner was one of the few ballplayers in his era who believed in lifting weights.
@Tom-y1j3 ай бұрын
He was ripped but he also knew you had to be flexible. Today's players focus on muscle and get hurt
@beaujac3113 ай бұрын
@@Tom-y1j Today's players have sports science behind them. Plus they don't have to work another job to make ends meet. They can work out year round.
@Tom-y1j3 ай бұрын
@beaujac311 I'm well aware, I use the same argument when the youngsters, who's only history of baseball comes from YT videos and other youngsters comments, try and tell me players from the past would never make it in today's game. The ol "they played against plumbers" (not sure why they always use plumbers as a example, plumbers in the 1920s were way tougher than today's ballplayers), I don't think today's ballplayers could make it if they had to play under early 1900s conditions. Mike Trout wouldn't have lasted a year.
@wk30043 ай бұрын
@@Tom-y1jMike Trout can’t even last a year now in 2024 with the greatest, most educated medical and training staffs ever working specifically for him
@Tom-y1j3 ай бұрын
@@wk3004 I'm talking as a rookie, before all the injuries even started. Hell, he probably wouldn't have even made the league back then.
@jdunbar29953 ай бұрын
Honus wagner belongs on the mount Rushmore of baseball
@jongordon79143 ай бұрын
Wagner didn't lead the league in home runs in 1908. Tim Jordan of the Brooklyn Superbas did with 12 home runs.