Hoodoo Issues

[@anthonyvespia6662]

Hey buddy, I recieved my Tempest 120 in july. But I did change the color to Blue lagoon. When I did that, they reminded me to not let the driver go. I opened it, checked everything I could. The only thing I noticed was, to go over every screw, and nut and bolt, and tighten them up. Besides that, arrived beautiful, and not a scratch. I know the impulse is having bad drive issues, and that's the boat I wanted. The kayak is beautiful, seems very strong, and the installs they did, seem excellent. I think now there really pushing them out very fast. Last year, I waited 8 months. Now, you recieve it in a week or two. They should've, replaced that rudder. Good luck.🎣🙏

[@904Fishing]

Great video! Picking up my tempest in a week, super good information thank you!!!

[@fishingthedream331]

I hope you enjoy it!

[@angelamicay8748]

Great video. I’m considering getting the tempest early next year. Looks like I’ll have to do a quality check once it arrives.

[@fishingthedream331]

Make sure you check those fasteners!

[@anthonyvespia6662]

Hey bud, few more thing's. They told me to turn the seat start one knob, then turn it and the 2nd will go right in. That worked. I have already sealed to layers of gasket on my hatches, and drive cover. I have the 46lb thrust Hoodoo fitted Trolling motor. I also have the Bixpy J2 on my rudder. My vessel came with the drop down rudder. I push my plugs all the way in. I use one motor or the other. Not a drop of water comes in my cockpit. But with all the research I've done on feel free, bonafide, vibe, even the over priced Hobie. All owners, are doing as we are, tighten screws, adding gaskets, minor issues all around. The Hoodoo was 5 star rated, especially the tempest. I see no reason to upgrade. I fish large FW lakes and reservoirs, and she's been a great vessel. This is my 1st. I'm 5ft 7 151 lbs. I can stand anywhere, she's fast, stable, etc. There is no perfect kayak. But I think for the price, and there a 2 year company. They'll make the adjustments, like every company does. Be safe my friend..

[@fishingthedream331]

I’ll keep mine I’m still waiting on the rudder and then it’s of to the lake! I got a prototype one of a kind so far micro power pole bracket for my 120p ! I can’t wait to test it!

[@anthonyvespia6662]

That's great. Mine really cuts through the water. Just the PDL Drive alone easy pedal does approx 3.7 mph, and the instant reverse is nice. If you look at the hull closely and compare it to the vibe seaghost 110, it's the same boat. And there impulse is the exact setup as the bonafide ss. But it has drive issues. Glad I went with the tempest. 12ft is perfect, and 34 inches wide. I love it. Be safe.🙏🎣🤟

[@fishingthedream331]

I was told by the dealer that it’s pretty much a copy of the sea ghost hull! It’s pretty stable to!

[@rre1953]

Thanks for your teview

[@brandonteague1190]

I have had my tempest 120p for 3 weeks now, I have the same issue as you with the seat not fitting after removing it, I also got the drop down style rudder that they assembled before shipping and the 2 original holes for the original disc on top were not plugged, so I took on a good bit of water, also after I put the pdl drive in the lock that’s in the middle doesn’t go over the drive,definitely need some quality control but I still enjoy the kayak.

[@fishingthedream331]

I’ve heard others having issues with the cover over the pedal drive! I think most of the issues are from cutting corners on there end! I know they aren’t the most expensive kayak on the market but quality kills a product!

[@anthonyvespia6662]

Hey Brandon, I tried for 2 day's thinking, this is the wrong seat. Then I called Hoodoo. They told me to hold the seat with the back up, and on an angle. Start one bolt, then turn the seat, and fit it into the other. I did that, and used WD-40 on my tracks. Fits everytime now, and slides easily. They said, it's supposed to fit tight, for safety on the water. If you ever get there trolling motor or a bixpy, this boat flies, through the water. I have both. I use one or the other. When researching my 1st kayak, I wanted the Vibe seaghost 110. I knew I'd be adding a bixpy or a Torqueedo. The Tempest hull, and most of the deck is almost identical. The Impulse hull matches the Bonafide 107. But I love mine, and every kayak needs adjustments from there owner. They are trying especially now to put them out so fast. Thus sport really exploded, when Covid hit.. Be safe bro. 🎣🙏🤟

[@michaelhendrix1636]

Good video. I really like mine but I absolutely HATE the turning radius on it. For the money it’s a good,yak and I’m slowly making my upgrades

[@fishingthedream331]

I love mine but I’m finding that I need the seat riser cause the angle in which I pedal is rough on me ! I’ve been told the seat riser makes a world of difference in comfort!

[@covidisevent201]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/boKuoKqXn6isgZY this will help better your turn radius for free.

[@garzaoutdoorsproductions]

Make sure you drop the rudder plate. There’s a screw in the rudder. Remove it so the plate can drop and then put the screw from the reverse side so it doesn’t tighten the gap, but keeps the rudder from going all the way up. That rudder needs to move up and down freely automatically when it hits something . This will decrease your turning radius, by catching more water.

[@gavinfukada5902]

I had the exact same seat issue, and front hatch leaking. i also had the rudder handle fall off completely after one trip. I ended up adding a longer bolt and a nut and havent had that issue again. Love the kayak though, especially for the price

[@biologicalhunter520]

How did you fix the front hatch leak? Mines doing the same

[@Manuel_Z_Kayaks]

1st... This kayak is made in China. Hoodoo buys them for about $500. When it arrives the lables are put on but there is an option to order them from China with the lables on. that's why it takes 3 months to get one. It's the same kayak as the BKC PK-12 - same as Midwest Watercraft RP120 - Affordable Adventures 12. Do an image search using the kayak. 2nd... IT DOES NOT HAVE "ANCHOR TROLLIES". Those strings on the side are just deck rigging or places to clip an anchor line. 3rd.. This kayak is next to impossible to troll with using front mounted rod holders because the pedals will hit anything mounted on the front tracks. 4th... The seat is comfy when you test it but you better set padding on it if you plan on using it for longer than an hour at a time. 5th... Replace all the buttons with hooks! 6th... Zip tie the back and center hatches to the bungee or add a string / leash to them. (THE COVER(S) WILL FLY OFF IN TRANSPORT!) *MOST IMPORTANT!* DO NOT BUY THIS KAYAK IF YOU'RE CLOSE TO OR ABOVE 200 POUNDS! Tip: use a rear mounted rudder system but you'll have to extend it to get it to steer right. Watch my video titled "GETTING RID OF MY PEDAL KAYAK" I go over most of these issues and I've owned over 100 different kayaks of all types, brands, sizes and models. I hope this helps you and your viewers who own our plan on getting any of these kayaks.

[@asianangler]

sounds like you wouldn't recommend this yak?

[@Manuel_Z_Kayaks]

@@asianangler IF YOU WEIGH 180 OR LESS... GO FOR IT

[@fathertime209]

I'm looking at the Element 9.5, do they order those also? Shipping price is a lot to swallow for what I thought would be an inexpensive kayak... 🤔

[@jamesaustin1817]

Hoodoo, bkc and 1 other kayak company have the same designs built by one kayak manufacture. They order theses kayaks and slap their stickers on them and sale for a premium. I’m searching for the kayak manufacture to see who is biuilding these thing so people can buy direct. Might as well if we are only paying for a sticker/name

[@jacobsoriano4596]

Hello james, did you ever find the builders for this yak?

[@fishingthedream331]

I think they are made in Japan and distributed buy the Hoodoo brand here in the states!

[@jamesaustin1817]

I found a Chinese website that has hundreds of kayaks, some look similar, but I’m still looking.

[@garzaoutdoorsproductions]

It’s made in China. Take my word for it, I know the guy.

[@patrickdolan.]

Unfortunately you'd have to order from China. After shipping you'd spend thousands. These companies order in bulk. Each kayak probably cost them 500 dollars. Then they pay a few thousand for shipping. Alot of the Chinese companies only sell in orders of 20 or more. Find 20 guys to go in on an order and you'll be set

[@jacobfunkhouser6600]

Just got mine last week and I like it but I noticed as well that the screws were not tightened and it seems like that bar that holds the pedal drive in place does not fit properly in the slot its supposed to go in which doesnt allow me to lock the pedal drive in place. My rudder system was on top as opposed to yours being underneath. My rudder ropes werent tied on either

[@fishingthedream331]

I believe they are in need of better quality control! Over all the kayak is sturdy and it performs well! I still have not replaced the rudder but it doesn’t mean much to me I kayak paddle most of the time on small rivers so it’s not needed!

[@gracefulpromise5300]

Only issue I've had so far on my Voyager was that I cannot get the end caps back on the accessory rails, I have to remove the rail, which is inconvenient and not good on the middle screw as I am probably just screwing it in and out too much. Also, the traction pads came off on one side during a rain we had because I was keeping the yak at my parent's house and I accidentally left the plugs in and when I told them they didn't take them out, my second time out I purposely left the plugs out because I wanted the water to keep me cool and sure enough the pad on the other side came up. It was also on this trip that I decided to buy a paddle holder because that bungee cord was already showing signs of wear. So I attached the yakattach offset rod holder and attempted to take the yak out without the pedal drive in and it was extremely hard because I had to move the seat all the way forward to get my feet to rest on where I guess they should be on this kayak (I'm 5'7) and then the paddle kept hitting the offset rod holder, no matter where I put it on the track. It has not been an enjoyable experience so far. I can understand why I have seen them for sale on marketplace almost brand new.

[@fishingthedream331]

I’m a firm believer in testing kayaks before I buy them now! To many kayaks to choose from!

[@84landon]

I also lost the underneath rudder, but I had already ordered the paddle rudder so that was my sign that I had to install it.

[@garysample1980]

I lived in Tucson for a while, was wondering if you take her out on silver bell. Think that's the name of the lake. Always wondered if there were any bass with any size to them.

[@fishingthedream331]

Yes sir I did take it on Silver bell and it worked great! I just wasn’t impressed with the fishing there!

[@ryankwiecinski2132]

Do you think having the kayak strapped for that long of a ride in the sun is the reason you had to push the sides back out to reinstall the seat? Just brainstorming. Hopefully all of the issues get fixed and you enjoy the ride! Thanks for the info, I am considering the 120p as well as a few others.

[@fishingthedream331]

It may have been the sun and the fact that I strapped it tight ! I’m sure you’ll enjoy it!

[@philphish1643]

No they’re all like that

[@AZDesertDave]

did you get a pedal or motor drive? i just bought one, tempest120P with the electric motor but im thinking im going to ditch that and go with the pedal drive, wondered which would be better. i have a rudder on top that flips down, design change? anyhow, im down south of you a few miles, wanted to know what water you like to hit? parker? patagonia? someplace else?

[@fishingthedream331]

Mine is just a peddle drive! I’ve since went to a crescent paddle kayak and I love it! Much more maneuverable! It fits my type of fishing more!

[@robertmottu5634]

Hey buddy next time u pull the seat out of your yak and install it back in do one rail first then lift the back end of the seat bracket up and turn to one side to line up the insert Screw for the other side. and those plastic inserts on all the screws u pointed out being loose I don't think the screws are loose plastic insert on screws Swivel around I myself have the hoodoo 120p tempest

[@tribalncgaming1091]

its understandable when you lose a part in shipping its not a warranty item.. i lost my steering handle.. my fault.. i did not check that bolt .. so i have since replaced it and bought a spare.. i use locktite and a lock washer where the bolt attaches inside that container.. the buckle METAL is just pot metal and it snapped on me both sides.. i have replaced them also. and for the rudder.. you could just take it off for long trips and store in the front hatch

[@fishingthedream331]

I’ll take it off from now on !

[@jaynecobb5774]

Really thinking about getting this yak... how is the stability??

[@fishingthedream331]

its not as stable as a lot of other kayaks id look for one just a little wider.

[@thebeardedpaddler]

I understand why the warranty wouldn't cover the rudder not being secured. Still sucks though. Dis you order it through Hoodoo? Or an online retailer?

[@fishingthedream331]

I bought it through a kayak shop in Nashville Tennessee!

[@jonathandearth4865]

You’d be surprised how compatible native watercraft stuff is with the hoodoo.

[@fishingthedream331]

I like native slayers I think they very nice rigs!

[@johncampbell7591]

What exact model is that? I would like to get one just like yours with the same rudder set up. As I will be running a river stick aswell

[@fishingthedream331]

Hoodoo tempest 120p

[@kevinpitts3548]

This is interesting. I'm looking at them because i can get a brand new one compared to a used one for the same price. Now i may go used....

[@fishingthedream331]

Kevin I have since given my youngest son my hoodoo and I have purchased a Crescent Ck1 and it is better suited for my style of kayaking! I needed something more maneuverable in streams and rivers ! I fish mostly rivers and Creacent makes a really great kayak!

[@kevinpitts3548]

@@fishingthedream331 knowledge is power. Thanks for the feedback!

[@garzaoutdoorsproductions]

I service those kayaks in the Dallas area, and have the same kayak as my personal fishing platform. Check out all I have done to mine on my channel (Garza Outdoors Productions). I use a trolling motor now and it turns on a dime. Oh and yes you have to use LOCK tight on all the screws.

[@fishingthedream331]

Thanks for the input and the info!

[@downlow5077]

After 3 months of use my hoodoo Stingray 130S has cracked twice and both seat buckles broke, hoodoo is saying I'll get store credit for purchase against another one of their junk kayaks.

[@fishingthedream331]

Get rid of it I did and I’m happy with my crescent

[@covidisevent201]

Your missing the clear rubber ring that goes on the rudder bolt.

[@fishingthedream331]

I’m lucky to still have the bolt itself! It road on roof of my truck for a few hundred miles

[@covidisevent201]

@@fishingthedream331 true very true i take my rudder off. Load and unload with it off. I have a avalanche and i load it into the bed it would destroy the rudder if i left it on.

[@DMetal13]

With all of those being loose, do you see any sealant on them? That would be a big concern,

[@fishingthedream331]

No I didn’t see any sealant on them I’ve been told this a common issue with their kayaks!

[@DMetal13]

That's awful 😞 I have a Crescent Lite Tackle for 2 years now and haven't had to tighten anything yet.

[@fishingthedream331]

@@DMetal13 I know I was a little unhappy

[@mikealderson8035]

They did add metal buckles. They are still super cheap though and will break.

[@fishingthedream331]

Good to know thank you!

[@jacksonbrown9451]

Every video I've seen on the hoodoo there seems to be "modifications" needed done to it to make it a workable kayak and I just do t think that's OK, I've been weighing this kayak and the perception pescador pedal drive and honestly for a thousand more and nothing but good reviews, the perception sounds like the better deal. Lol.

[@fishingthedream331]

I replaced it with a crescent ck1

[@djdedeo0]

They really should have sent you a new one for no cost.

[@fishingthedream331]

I know it would have been greatly appreciated!

[@samlopez9460]

Is not perfect kayak no where. My sit in my hobie compass just broke. I just put a little beach chair from Walmart and it works great. Just adjust those bolts and you be fine 🙂 let's be happy with that we have.

[@fishingthedream331]

Thanks for the comment! I appreciate it!

[@garzaoutdoorsproductions]

I extended my seat, we located the tracks, and it now sits about 4 inches higher. Much more comfortable, and I don’t have to worry about the kayak size in the sun.

[@seanpatun9875]

Man this video makes me definitely not wanting to buy this kayak. Cheaply built.

[@fishingthedream331]

I hope it was a helpful video!

[@willshaneswearingen]

I am on my 4th yak and i will tell you tightning bolts etc is standard provedure even on the American made yaks. I slways find thongs loose, always. So get over that it is a thing. Hoodoo is bringing a good product at an affordable price. I still laugh at the people spending 10k on their yak and gear while i outfish them using ugly sticks and penn reals. And yes im worth over a mil bit im a retired Marine and am old school.

[@brentfulton5209]

They prep the yaks here in Tx but the entire kayak aka molds come from China... I have the same exact kayak you have but mine is the non pedal version.. I like my yak, but my next one will be molded and assembled all in the USA..

[@fishingthedream331]

I own a Jackson Coosa but it’s not a pedal drive cause I can’t afford one of their pedal drives! I was just a little butt hurt over the rudder issue but I’ll get over it

[@brentfulton5209]

@@fishingthedream331 They should have replaced it IMO...

[@Bronco2Cj]

@@fishingthedream331 I have the same kayak as you but non pedal version... I actually did a 20+ review on it and didn't know to check all of the loose bolts.. Went on our monday paddle last night and lot of water got into the yak with all scuppers plugged in.. You're right, the sealant which is something I never thought to check is sub par so I will look into sealing it with something better... And as of 20 mins ago, all of the bolts that were loose on yours, were loose on mine.. it seems the QA/QC process isn't quite there and I'm starting to believe they might not know what the hell they are doing.. Another irritating thing is I bought a kayak rooftop J rack system from Reese.. Then HooDoo released theirs and it looks bigger and the bottom part looked a little flatter and didn't hook upward as much as the Reese.. I was thinking that the kayak would pop on better with their rack than the one from Reese so I luckily sold my reese to buy the hoodoo one.. Also the hoodoo one folds down so I can fit my ride in my garage without taking the rack off.. I specifically asked them, via email from me and by buddy, does this Jrack come with the straps to strap the yak to the rack AND rope/straps to tether the front and back of the yak to the front and back of your ride? ignored.... sent again.. ignored... so I called them and spoke to a Jared and he said yes, it comes with the straps for the yak and straps/rope to tether each end of the yak.. Guess what was missing in the box? the rope/strap to tether.. The Reese came with everything, rope for tethering and the straps.. I am still please with the yak, just not the lack of communication and wrong answers to questions asked, let alone all the loose bolts you've encountered.

[@fishingthedream331]

@@Bronco2Cj I believe they need to increase their quality as this is an ongoing issue with a lot of their customers.

[@ghamm777]

I hate my hoodoo kayak. It was a big mistake buying this. Buy any other company even shit Walmart kayaks would be better than this

[@asianangler]

what do you hate bout it?

[@ghamm777]

@@asianangler The color was way off from their pictures, it tracks absolutely terrible, the stern or rear of the kayak sits terribly low and takes on water if there is any sort of wind even with no weight or tackle in the back, the hatches both broke within 6 months and they refuse to replace. The customer service is among the worst I've ever dealt with. Buy one if you want to but just be warned

[@fishingthedream331]

Sir I agree I’ve since replace the Hoodoo with a Crescent CK 1 and I’m very happy that I did! I really didn’t like the geometry of the seat to the pedals I always felt my ass was dragging!

[@markflo8412]

I bought a Hobie.

[@fishingthedream331]

Nice I’m glad you can afford one most of us can’t.

[@toYOder]

Looks like joe blow made that kayak in his garage. I would not buy something like that with all those bad reviews.

[@djdedeo0]

Loctite

[@pinoykayaker]

You get what you pay for.

[@johnguth5376]

With all these issues,you still say it's a Great kayak ,duh!

[@dalemartin7886]

*reiterate, not "reinterate"