Now THAT'S What I Call a Suppressor Mount!

[@jason91notch]

Uh oh, Hop talked good about something. Hurry up and buy it before it gets discontinued 😅

[@skoshi_tempest]

Well if you don't mind the Q version it'll never be discontinued

[@limpetarch98k]

@@skoshi_tempestWhat if he praises that too? 🤔

[@mdbizzl]

Liberty Precision thread protectors are out of stock now…thanks Hop.

[@skoshi_tempest]

@@limpetarch98k he'd never, Kevin's personality is too irritating to Hop I'm sure

[@brandonschwertley2723]

The thing you said about the exposed threads being potentially damaged while in normal use made me realize why Surefire likely made such an unusual attachment system. They aren't the only ones to make a thread-less attachment system, but it seems to be a military specific requirement. Now I know why.

[@icantdrive75]

Liberty Precision Machine makes a thread protector if you're worried.

[@SMACK1978]

Directionally ported 🤷🏽

[@highdesertdrew1844]

I don't know that it's a mil req, the ops inc is threaded.

[@mtnbound2764]

@@highdesertdrew1844 thats like 20 years old at this point

[@benjamin3290]

Q offers several thread protector designs that act as brakes

[@not_your_business666]

Plan b is the stuff. Look up diligent defense zilch. It is the most compact plan b compatible adapter i could find, on top of that, it's one of the cheapest and made out of titanium.

[@mrs.vasquezz]

Theres also the wolfpack armory one that actually eats up some of the blast chamber for even shorter mount

[@not_your_business666]

@@mrs.vasquezz In fact I am using zilch along with wolfpack's flash hider and I love that combo. From what I saw in the video zilch is deeper, it completely covers the wrench flats, while wolfpack covers about a half. Both are great depending on the build.

[@not_your_business666]

@@ChristopherGoydich-cb6bd the opening is wide enough to stick a wrench in it.

[@not_your_business666]

@ChristopherGoydich-cb6bd just checked, 6" adjustable wrench will fit at the angle. It's not perfect but will do.

[@chrisb8046]

Many of us were clamoring for a common mount back during the QD and DB wars of the early 2000's. I still remember folks justifying every purchase with "you buy the best because it's a lifetime investment", only to turn around and buy the next hotness 6 months later that was completely incompatible with their other stuff...

[@helloimpeterpan5711]

Recently switched over to this system with the Rd Atlas R on my Polo K, really wished I switched over much earlier lol, it’s awesome

[@tylerseguin5830]

This is way too positive. Unsubbing, faith completely lost

[@leovang3425]

Hop lopped off

[@reefermonster9651]

Virgin 4 life

[@EathenRice]

This real? I don't know what to think about it.🤷‍♂️

[@DanielInfrangible]

😂 same. But only until something reminds me of “thunder chicken,” then I’m coming right back out of nostalgia.

[@joeweaver6325]

Great video, thanks for the mention! We have several new muzzle devices and mounts planned for the near future.

[@bodybybrentdfw]

I enjoyed the Plan B Rearden mounts but I switched over to the Xeno mount. Similar benefits to the plan B but reverse threaded

[@illestdomer2005]

I originally wanted Xeno, but they were OOS forever.

[@kevinbrittingham6774]

What’s reverse threading do?

[@Jerkasaur]

@@kevinbrittingham6774it makes the bullet spin backwards

[@whippedflame8484]

I stumbled into the Rearden/Plan B mounting interface system, and it’s the only system I’ve ever been satisfied with. Great review Hop

[@nickadkins7765]

Forward controls design also makes a few nice muzzle devices for rearden/Plan B as well

[@benjamingingrich9192]

I PERSONALLY like keymo the best because, even though not as proven as surefire in terms of a ratcheting system, still very tested and tried while having a HUGE atmosphere. Plus, don't have to worry about damaging threads

[@bfish9700]

I switched to rearden from the YHM system, I was only into YHM for 1 flash hider and the mount, glad I did. The rearden is a lot lighter and more low profile and the wolfpack armory flash hider was pretty cheap and fits well.

[@Sin526]

I assume you're talking about the Phantom qd and not the newer SRX taper system from YHM?

[@kylematthes1646]

@@Sin526is SRX taper system any good?

[@BruceGagneaux]

@@kylematthes1646sRx system is 10/10 and not sure what Hop is foaming at the mouth about, but it does everything Plan B does. Lol Stays tight when you want it to, comes off easily when you want it to, and threads stay clean…there’s really nothing else to ask for in a suppressor mount.

[@2bNIKEt1]

That Leupold HAMR Sig 516 setup is sick. Especially with a can on the end.

[@sullimd]

Rearden for everything.

[@ethan5.56]

I’ve been checking out a few different systems for my first can. Might try the dead air xeno. Great video as always

[@mastrsk8]

My gf uses Plan B. Thank God! I too also love a handful of cans. In all seriousness, thanks for the video. Not sure why I watch and tease myself here in Commifornia.

[@nathanbattles3958]

The owner of Rearden is an awesome dude! Buy from him and he will treat you right.

[@scotopicvision]

Q makes awesome products. I wish other gun companies invested in engineering like they do

[@RandyTheB_]

Q has thought up some interesting products but their actually assembly and engineering is not so good. Can't even assemble their own BCG's correctly.

[@scotopicvision]

@@RandyTheB_ yet other manufacturers use their designs over and over again

[@kevinbrittingham6774]

@@RandyTheB_wtf? That’s just untrue.

[@PrayingPanda]

This is the route I'd recommend if you don't go native key-mo or a straight barrel to suppressor direct thread. I like the fact that i don't have to mess with locking collars or risk adapters detaching. That said, if I'm going HUB-mount compatible, it's plan b style for the low profile look.

[@hrhgalaxy]

I was waiting for a set of reviews on suppressor mounts and am glad you provided a couple: one not so good and one very positive. I am not confident in my Plan B purchase.

[@Tusk_III]

Nailed it on the comparison to red

[@erice4611]

I love the dead air Xeno mount because it’s also reversed threads.

[@RunningWithSauce]

Two things: 1. did hop get laid? He loves this system. 2. The muzzle flash at 4:29 is crazy.

[@hightower4998]

Griffin makes a PlanB and fits all of their 10-12ish different taper muzzle devices.

[@charlesalberti563]

I used to follow Andrew of ocl before ocl was even a thing. He posted funny gun memes. It's neat to see them grow to a point that I see them in KZbin videos

[@alexakamarbles]

Taper mount. Left hand thread. Hub and P series compatible. So, Xeno? That thread protector for muzzle devices is a good idea

[@The-BCC]

I think SpecterCat is coming out with something similar to the plan B but with left hand threads. They have flash, brake & adapters available. 🤷‍♂️ Maybe a good option?

[@The-BCC]

I believe the difference with the spectercat style mount style by looking at it, is not just left hand thread, but is also it’s using a more robust acme style thread pitch with the taper area closer to the threads giving a more compact package. Looks pretty smart design to me. 🤷‍♂️

[@Chevydude1982]

My favs are the Keymo, Surefire and the Kac. I haven't tried any others except for the sig and those are pretty cool too. Guess i just like them cause thats what we were always issued so thats what I've always used. I will try others as soon as I'm out of commiefornia and can purchase my own. awesome vid as always. much love

[@cartersm2425]

Have you tried the Dead Air Xeno? I like the Plan B system, but the Xeno is better IMO.

[@kevinbrittingham6774]

Why is it better?

[@scott2228]

Looks similar to the DA Xeno. Just threads on opposite direction. Damn!! Wish the Xeno had a thread protector.

[@militanthippy7613]

Forward Control Designs makes one. Just search "dead air xeno thread protector" and it should come up.

[@oskar6661]

Living in PSA land (several of their retail stores within 20 minutes of my place)...the "red anodized junk on the AR" is a very common occurence. The amount of cringe-worthy AR builds I see people rockin' is...something.

[@bradtidball5206]

Couldn't agree more on these mounts. Zero complaints. The raw heat treated atlas is only good because they're a few bucks cheaper if you know you're going to spray paint it anyway (Krylon high heat paint rocks).

[@turnerables]

Do you think the lack of the tapered section on the Wolfpack adapter affects zero repeatability?

[@BooDamnHoo]

Concerning your advert, woodland camo is still a good, valid camo pattern. It can't really go out of style

[@calvins4084]

You should look into the Wolfpack armory plan b adapter it's better than the reardons because it's flush mount. Makes your suppressor oal as short if not shorter than direct thread

[@Hoplopfheil]

It's featured in this video

[@kevintan3705]

8:05 Opposite of neutral? Maybe polar? I'd say slanted or partial, but those two would be confusing in this context. -Directed might be a good option too.

[@rollastudent]

Directed is good, or biased

[@wwiireenacted]

Bro, definitely try the Griffin Dual-Lok system! I swapped all my cans to Dual-Lok

[@50shadesofFDE]

If you like LPM's muzzle devices you should try their suppressors

[@AndyOamo]

Forward controls design makes really good plan b stuff too, they make really good everything but everyone sleeps on them.

[@24skeemers]

Just put in my Atlas’s in my cans. Wasn’t able to hit torque spec, but I did 2 drops of rocksett and tightened down as much as I could. New to cans and not really sure how to torque to spec by just holding in my hands. I grabbed a smaller wrench and gave it a few ugga duggas. Hopefully it holds 😕

[@YouTubeflakeland]

EA makes vise blocks in different diameters to hold them, so you can torque to spec.

[@orpheusepiphanes2797]

Have you looked at Manta rails products? There suppressor shroud looks dope

[@charliepiland3285]

AAC question - do folks recommend getting old AAC 762SD, 762SD-N6 cans modified to the pose new Plan B systems? AAC wants a LOT of money to convert (but say that restores your warranty). 3rd party options are far cheaper. But with 3 cans and dozens of AAC 51-T mounts, the total cost to move away from the inferior 51 toothed system is prohibitive!

[@bendejong8188]

Any day a Hop video drops is a good day

[@heisman01]

Rearden and Spooky gang checking in.

[@troyelder56]

That’s been my biggest complaint with the Plan A with griffin the threads are in front of the taper shoulder allowing carbon to get in the threads. Been wanting keymo for years but finally got a second suppressor that’s hub compatible.

[@troyelder56]

Griffin died make a plan-B based adapter their dual lock is interesting with the addition of a secondary locking collar and 120 tines around the base of the muzzle device. They fixed the taper location on these also putting it after the threads. But the system seems kinda fidgety and expensive

[@corybanasiak]

Aeroshell the threads before twisting on your can or no??

[@newdefsys]

Good stuff, Hop.

[@BossHugo84]

The Specter Cat Spooky mount is better . Have you tried the YHM Kurtz ?

[@kevinbrittingham6774]

CGS/CAT thread is too course. That’s why it comes loose.

[@ArsonalTech]

What is the rifle at 5:13? Looks like a Ruger SR556, which is one of my favorite ARs.

[@deerstrike1050]

Hop found something he likes... I blame the eclipse!

[@hurrikaneiii]

Would you please film the mounts under IR so we can see what mounts and cans leak? Thank you.

[@noclass2gun342]

Maybe I'm weird, but I still prefer the keymo mount from dead air... Just not a fan of threaded suppressor mounts. Why involve threads at all?

[@Kesssuli]

QD designs are nice but when you are runnin least 99% of time supressed then i like simplicy of direct threaded supressor. Also to make matter even more simple in here i can get supressor for every gun for just walking to store. So it removes need to swap one supressor around of multiple guns because all which have threads already have their own supressor.

[@Bursar60]

What about the newest griffin that's on the tfb page recently

[@samuelmac1054]

Hop is so excited I thought my video was sped up

[@kannonstewart9103]

after getting several Keymo/Key mount devices and an adapter it feels like that technology has been surpassed... should I replace it?

[@Mr_Lasagna]

Here I am still rocking keymo 😅

[@kevinbrittingham6774]

You must workout?

[@kfranklin308]

Rearden and Liberty precision are definitely the best. They put wrench flats on everything. That’s where the other plan b companies suck. They don’t put wrench flats on them.

[@Justanotherwhiteguy4U]

Hop you always find a way to insult me in your videos. Today it was because I totally have a Raw Heat Treat Rearden atlas on my T3 and single port break in heat treat on my rifle. So thanks again.

[@kenshaffer5664]

At the 4:06 mark, what is the scope (dot?) you're running on the rifle?

[@Hoplopfheil]

Leupold HAMR

[@Quicks1lvr]

Were you using a SIG 516 upper at the 4:10? If so how has it been for you running suppressed? Not like I'll ever be able to suppress it in my state but I'm just curious how you view it vs a typical DI system considering you have a lot of experience suppressing.

[@nato1020]

Agreed

[@aquaman6081]

What makes this different than xeno?

[@sabuka3684]

Of course, you would drop this video the day *after* I drop a grand on two Key-MO mounts, an adapter, and a suppressor lmaoooo. Perfect timing

[@MatthewC176]

check out the CAT TSF/X adapter

[@evanknapp115]

Just thought I’d leave this here. The huxwrx can will come right off if you let it cool down no wrench necessary. It even says so in the manual!

[@Hoplopfheil]

Fascinating but unfortunately untrue

[@ToastbackWhale]

@@HoplopfheilWorks for my HXQD556. Thing is snug as hell while it’s hot but only takes some determination when it’s cool.

[@kozzy18]

How do you like the Polonium? I know about the gas issue, but overall how is it?

[@PnP-td1mt]

Been running rearden and liberty for a while now

[@PnP-td1mt]

They were the “go to” for form 1 stuffs… On my made sense to keep them with the adoption of “hub/ASR” on form 4 cans. Good people running both companies also

[@nemoegosum8350]

Eastern Washington Lawn Puma via NVG…!

[@UlookinMe]

Somthing not pointed out about the Q devices like the Cherry Bomb, no wrench flats. If it comes off in your can, it’s a royal PITA to remove.

[@johnb.6468]

So use a pipe wrench? Bahco brand is the same as snap on for pipe wrench pliers.

[@speedindeemin]

You’re supposed to use rocksett on the muzzle device, and the can is only hand tightened. Getting the MD stuck in the can with the cherry bomb indicates blatant user error.

[@bryanadkins6776]

10:54 the reason we're all here.

[@TheMakeReadyRanch]

My kid always comes running in when she hears Hop's voice. Dad where is the cat?!

[@Wade-1]

I love the Phantom ratchet system. Haven't seen a downside yet. Who has trouble with it and what kind? PS. Nothing looks as bad it worse than red on ARs....

[@Hoplopfheil]

Phantom QD has many issues I've covered before, so has FocusTripp in more depth.

[@stephanarizona9094]

I think the BEST system on the market is the B&T QD system for Trilug. So smooth and easy!

[@jimyeats]

We’re talking about centerfire rifle calibers here, not pistol calibers. Take five minutes and research why trilug is only used on low to moderate power pistol cartridges.

[@EvilWiffles]

@@jimyeats Trilug fucking sucks too. Always hated using it on my 9mm cans. Leaks gas, POI shift issues if you mount it in a different position (completely negates the point of fast QD), and you can get a baffle strike from resting the can on something unintentionally while shooting.

[@jimyeats]

@@EvilWiffles Yep. All negatives. The only real benefit is that it is suuuuper fast.

[@chikinnunget]

hey hop have you tried Rugged’s R.U.M. yet? i feel like you might like it if you like plan b

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

I don’t know much about suppressors, but wouldn’t the HK tri-lug system be quicker to install the can and is much more rugged than the fine threads in most muzzle devices?

[@Hoplopfheil]

There's a cool video from SiCo about what happens when you use an HK trilug system on a rifle suppressor. I think it broke in about 2 magazines.

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

@@Hoplopfheil I just watched that video, thanks. Doesn’t work on pistols too because it takes the place of the booster. It’s a PCC only mounting solution. I have a MP5 in .22lr (authorized réplica by Walther, not a real H&K) with a tri-lug definitely not getting a compatible supressor just for it. I’ll just install the adapter to direct threads that Walther sells for it (I got one on my .22lr PPK/S and they are compatible). I’m entertaining the idea of getting a .223 rated can (I own an AR) and use it with my .22lr too. Is that a bad idea? Are Rimfire ammo so dirty that I will gum up the suppressor quickly and get a baffle strike with the 5.56 and ruin my can?

[@Hoplopfheil]

Shooting a lot of rimfire through a sealed rifle can is a big risk. They're much harder to clean as well. I'd just avoid doing that altogether unless you want to clean it very frequently.

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

@@Hoplopfheil I imagined so. I live in one of the few European countries that regulate suppressors (not as bad as in the US with the ATF, but still), so I wanted to cut the red tape in half and they cost a lot of €s here (and they are dirt cheap in the countries where they aren’t regulated, what a shock). I’ll bite the bullet and buy two cans, one for 5.56 and one dedicated to .22lr that is easy to disassemble and clean (if it fits my ultrasonic cleaner, even better). Thanks again, Hop. Cheers.

[@Hoplopfheil]

Definitely a good call in the long run!

[@stevebutters306]

As an airsoft player, it's irritating seeing how nice the realsteal boys have it with this stuff. Threads are never to any real spec, always too short, too long, slightly off pitch, uneven crowns, etc. My P90 has a barrel too long for the can so it's just sticking out an inch, but still touches the bottom side of the suppressor muzzle. I'm always worried about jamming my M4 into a barrier or the dirt at some point and now my bbs are just filling up the inside of my can. Well, at least I'm too poor to afford a real one, so I won't have to worry about a real baffle strike lol

[@TheAfterPein]

Interesting that Hop has had OSS/Huxwrx cans stick so aggressively after a mag (whether literal or hyperbolic). I can't say that I've had one stick any worse than needing two hands to remove mine. Rearden does make some solid stuff, though. If I had to use a different mount ecosystem, it'd probably be Rearden.

[@Hoplopfheil]

I wonder if it's the new muzzle devices that are doing it. I know of three guys with the new ones that report sticking after less than a full mag, and the terrible flash hider ring. Guys with older cans don't seem to have either of those problems. Curious.

[@ToastbackWhale]

When my HXQD gets hot, it’s not coming off. It’s fine after it cools down, though.

[@TheAfterPein]

Mine is a HX-QD 556Ti with the flash cap, so it's relatively new. I can't say if it's a flow 556k or 762Ti specific thing, however. I've also only used the muzzle brake (thus far) so I also cannot attest to any flash hider ring, yet.

[@TheAfterPein]

When they're hot, it *can* become a challenge, but I don't have a heat rated pouch to stick a hot ass can in, so I'm not bothered to wait until it gets below contact burn temperature.

[@ehornad]

Now try the KAK down vent BCG 🥰

[@N-A762]

I would love to see a video on that

[@Hoplopfheil]

Been using it for a while in the Riflespeed Dissipator.

[@spoonskill7080]

The cat for the win....

[@KirkWagner147]

I like the keyno. No threads and a good lock up. This looks cool too

[@uh60ce1]

Can i use the thread protector and the suppressor at the same time? Asking for a friend.

[@CDanielson187]

Negative the sleeve protects the same taper threads that the suppressor uses.

[@jedi7489]

Socko under night vision!?!

[@LeifyGuy]

Do I spy an agm thermal?

[@MrPatchesXXX]

Dual lok has me hooked

[@dvonehrlich]

You barely “suppressed” your excitement about this mount.

[@PistoleroJesse]

Code no loner works :( Is disapoint, but I still buy.

[@Hoplopfheil]

Thanks for catching that! The code should be fixed now.

[@fistoramshank]

So what's wrong with the Q system

[@IdiotandOpinion]

The only “Plan B” this audience will ever need.

[@Sierra_Victor]

Love Plan B ecosystem. Revival Defense has a new epic 3 prong that is actually a good flash hider instead of the dinky, useless rearden 3 prong. Glad I swapped that.

[@collinb.8542]

Are you talking about the 3p15? That's the one I just got, didn't have any plan to suppress it but maybe I will.

[@J1776-]

Garbage taper mount with threads doesn’t come close to surefire qd….

[@ramentaryramblings]

​@@J1776-cope and seethe surefiretard

[@DogOnAPhone]

Worth checking out Revival Defense too!

[@TheBradyrulez]

Those guys have been pretty legit to me for their shipping speed and customer service. Can't testify though on their muzzle devices as I'm in the ASR system.

[@jasongaudreau2075]

Honestly the best muzzle devices for this mounting solution! I have both the 6315rf and 3P15. And they do exactly what forward controls and revival defense designed them to do. Mitigate flash and direct muzzle blast. While mounting a can. I would suggest a thread protector like HOP if playing exposed.

[@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel]

@@jasongaudreau2075thanks for the lead. I just picked up the 3p15 thanks to your tip. I hadn’t heard of these guys

[@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel]

@@jasongaudreau2075thanks for the lead. I just picked up the 3p15 thanks to your tip. I hadn’t heard of these guys

[@SilencerShop]

Nice review! We agree, the Plan B pattern taper mount is a fantastic mounting system. Locks up securely, its lightweight, and compact.

[@armorers_wrench]

I just got an OCL Polonium K and I'm using Rearden mounts and when i unthread the suppressor the hub mount tends to stick to the muzzle device and unthread itself from the suppressor. Is there anything I can do to prevent this? Kinda makes me nervous. Should I add a small dab of rocksett to the hub mount?

[@benjaminfish7602]

​@@armorers_wrenchYes, definitely Rocksett and torque according to Rearden specs.

[@armorers_wrench]

@@benjaminfish7602 Alright. Prior to my approval I only had access to the can at an indoor range so I was pretty limited on what I could do. Probably the torque alone will take care of this issue. I noticed in the box they have a little vice block to put the suppressor in a vice(I assume) and I gots me a good torque wrench and some high temp thread locker.

[@MannElite]

Wish you would get with YHM and have them ship the SRX adapters with the cans.... Just bought a Resonator R2 and its being shipped with phantom QD... going to have to fork over 200 more bucks for new mount/muzzle device.

[@TheGrimiest]

@@MannElite200? The mounts and adapter can be found for 65ish bucks a piece at some places or 77 a piece at silencershop. I do agree that YHM should ship their cans with the Srx tho

[@AEtrane]

Take 'er down a notch there, bud. You're getting real close to sounding a little happy.

[@EricDaMAJ]

_See how that ACU cammo completely conceals that cat!”_ - US Army, circa. 2005

[@joemama69448]

'Army Combat Uniform Camo'. Oh boy.

[@armorers_wrench]

My OCL Polonium K just got approved after 6 days. The Form 4's really are going quickly right now. This was my first ever NFA item and I filed as an individual.

[@Kycirion]

6 days!? Jeez. My SBR is still "in progress" after 10 months.

[@basedWisco715]

Submitted mine on 3/27. Why can’t mine be this fast 😑

[@gutshotgat]

I’m the exact same except I’m on day 52 of waiting.

[@Mister-sm1hs]

Going into frickin week 5 for me... 1st one 😢

[@armorers_wrench]

@@Kycirion did you file as an individual or trust and was it form 1 or form 4?

[@scottlamp3097]

I was very close to going with this mount, but I went with Dead Air Xeno. Similar design, a little bit longer adapter, but LH threads. I'm pretty happy with it

[@zachburkey447]

Same!

[@canderson2478]

Glad someone said this. It’s got all the benefits of plan b but it has lh threads like he complimented Huxwrx for having.

[@NvwaAqoKy2kg]

The gospel of Rearden praise be. Rearden on everything.

[@kevinbrittingham6774]

😂

[@kdb1891]

I just switched from ASR to Rearden / Plan B like a month ago. It is SO much lighter. Especially with the titanium adapter. I have the Atlas on my main suppressor but I'm thinking about picking up the Revival Defense titanium adapter for my other can. It's a little lower profile and has slots to use a castle nut wrench to tighten it down. I have a few Rearden muzzle devices but my favorite is the 3P15 from revival defense. It's a 2 inch three prong and it's awesome. They also make an A2 style muzzle device that's compatible with it

[@kellerlamper3479]

Hop I shit my pants what should I do?

[@DinoNucci]

I'll send your m o m to help you when I'm done with her

[@calholli]

Just act as if

[@fuhq5121]

Go sit on a public bus until they kick you out.

[@williamflowers9435]

@@DinoNucci no you won’t… I got her next 🍑

[@stevebutters306]

That's what you get for wearing olight brand thongs! I much prefer my Streamlight slingshot.

[@aktideracer8710]

SD tactical has titanium mounts and muzzle devices too, good small company with great service

[@not_your_business666]

Wow those are really cheap.

[@roncterry]

I have a few of these. They work really well. I like the more positive wrench flats on the SD Tactical mounts than those on the Rearden Atlas.

[@Aaron-fh6hd]

Glad that people will be able to use and buy the products that Hop talks about 3 years after he talks about them. As long as they're still being made when they become available again.

[@DoSe420]

Polonium-k in stock at Capitol armory Rearden atlas in stock east valley tactical (on reardens dealer page) Atlas XL in stock multiple places I just order my polo last night, and atlas today. Still debating on muzzle device, liberty bell or rearden single port brake (both in stock)