Horizon Forbidden West: 7 Tiny Ways it’s Massively Better than Zero Dawn

[@boomyfuzzball2675]

I would like to add, i also absolutely love they overhauled Cauldrons and Tallnecks. Instead of being incredibly repetitive, most of them now have a twist or uniqueness to them that really makes doing them stand out and interesting.

[@wibkesworld3208]

True

[@Nimajneb42069]

I feel like this with the side quests too…

[@Slipknot4769]

Very true!

[@WillSinks]

I just did Iota last night and was just like 😮😮😮😮😮 the whole time. Didn’t realize they had it in em!

[@eh.101]

not with the sunwing not really

[@markbade565]

Ellen's frustrated scream is so relatable. I feel your pain. But what was almost as infuriating was actually hunting the goods to get the golden pack. What do you mean this fox doesn't have any skin?!?!

[@Sableagle]

_Lord of the Rings Online:_ kill and (automatically) skin dozens of Cun Annun, Wolves, Wargs, Boars and Bears, one particularly inconvenient Badger and an unlucky Stag; arrive in camp; meet NPC; sympathise with NPC about how cold it is up here and how nice it'd be to have some Warg hides to keep them warm; go back out to kill and (manually) skin a dozen more Wargs. I have a pack full of furs, skins and hides, sometimes two different hides and a skin from the same kill, and this guy wants a dozen of the _other_ outer layer of a warg?

[@Chris_Sizemore]

Me: Your fox pelt. Merchant: That poor animal. I can't use this pitiful excuse of a rag. I need a fox pelt in good condition. Me: Well, I mean all the weapons I use are meant to tear metal to pieces. Merchant: Most hunters use traps to catch fox. Me: [holds up a charred blackened pelt] Merchant: Cage trap. Me: Oh! huh. You sell cage traps? Merchant: The door is over there. Try not to break it on the way out.

[@tyvirus1]

I'm replaying Zero Dawn currently and nothing has bones. Not Fish, Not boars,... turkeys do but i dont need many of thoses

[@Sableagle]

@@tyvirus1 Bones I can get. Wights in Garth Agarwen and Angmar drop [Decrepit Finger Bone] "This item can be sold to merchants." What the heck the merchants do with them I don't know. Maybe they grind them up, mix them with the tiny fish that can't be used in cooking and sell them back to us as fertiliser.

[@526235680]

I got the golden pack right away as soon as it appears with the merchants and I had plenty of resources for it. The reason for that was I never used fast travel even once for about half of the game as I was clearing out all the campfires ignoring all the quests for some reason and killing and hoarding everything in the process :P

[@tamago2474]

This is such a great video idea - I'm playing through Zero Dawn right now and keep mentioning quality of life changes I'm wishing for in the sequel. Literally cheering each time you mention a new improvement 😄

[@outsidextra]

Honestly, recently decided to Platinum Zero Dawn in prep for the new one and as soon as I started playing Forbidden West I got just as, if not more, excited for this stuff as the new story and bigger improvements. I was so happy whenever I discovered a new little change! - E

[@timothyoswald8618]

Going to start a replay of HZD after getting the last trophy of Gravity Rush 2... the hype is real! Can't wait to get my shiny hands on Forbidden West.

[@tommctear4672]

SAME! These changes sound brilliant, not only will they make things more smooth but they will help save so much time! Not sure who was squeeing more while I watched this, me or Ellen lol

[@nikolaipersad4098]

💯 THIS!!!

[@kurtisgonzales37]

I'm in a thread that keep randomly updating the days and hours left until it's release. 😆 Got it on pre-order already lol

[@jlnrdeep]

This is how you do a proper sequel, revamp all the main systems and do a lot of quality of life improvements, kudos to Guerrilla games for their awesome work.

[@chaoticstarfish3401]

@@frankgrimes7388 I mean, that's just how these games go

[@joshconfer209]

Agreed 100% jlnrdeep. It's really nice to see a developer go in the other direction and actually try to make the game experience more accessible instead of chasing the difficulty/cashgrab curve and telling you git gud or don't play. It's a very rare thoughtful approach that newer games seem to be missing.

[@bustinarant]

@@frankgrimes7388 Have you *forgotten* the robot dinosaurs and elaborate traps?

[@Kris-wo4pj]

@@frankgrimes7388 so just like assassins creed, elder scrolls, fallout, far cry, rdr, gta, and all open world role-playing games cuz ubisoft ruined the genre? Which bleed into all action adventure games only now its only a sandbox or linear like fallen order, uncharted, hitman and every other games like them. Welcome to gaming. It's either a generic collector, indie or a generic shooter. It all has collecting in it and it's all full of crafting bs.

[@tyleroutland435]

@@Kris-wo4pj horzion forbidden west will be one of the best games this year so I don't know what you mean 😂

[@ChocolatierRob]

Sorry Nel, but golden fast travel packs aren’t the only thing you missed in the Zero Dawn. Creating jobs to find resources was in the first game too. Though it sounds a little more streamlined this time you could create jobs and get guided to machine parts (but not animal parts).

[@brandonwithnell612]

it highlighting the animals in yur focus is a huge improvement too

[@Olanimates]

Yeah it's much better now. Killing 50 scrappers before one finally dropped a heart was gruesome work so this is really a welcome improvement

[@cmacinnis]

50? I poop Scrapper Hearts. She missed the wooly mammoth in the lodge; how god-awful the platforming is by comparison to Zero Dawn. Also, FUCK machine muscle. Shards, element, string is JUST fine. Had to ruin it with machine muscle. Getting the Override in ZD takes all of 2 MAYBE 3 hours. Just enough time to learn the games mechanics and whatnot. If it [override] WASN'T in the beginning of FW, it would be like a MMX2 where X can't dash or wall climb

[@shawngillogly6873]

Highlighting animals is new. The rest was all HZD functionality. I used resource jobs all the time in the 1st game.

[@KavalanSol]

@@brandonwithnell612 was also in the first game.

[@apg13997]

That Glinthawk kill was very satisfying to watch. The best kind of encouragement for buying this game, and that is indeed saying a lot.

[@outsidextra]

Even more satisfying to pull off. I almost screamed with joy at it. Just an excited "aaaaaaaAAAAAaHHHH" haha - E

[@glengreer9614]

Seriously, I fuccin HATE glinthawks. I was quietly cheering in my cubicle

[@Toasteeei]

@@glengreer9614 seriously those fuccin ice projectile were annoying as hell

[@fireblade295]

@@Toasteeei not to mention trying to hit their weakspot because you needed what they drop...

[@TheTraveler980]

DEATH TO THE GLINTHAWKS!

[@kempolar9768]

I actually dislike the stash change specifically to do with the medicinal herbs, in the first game you could carry quite a lot but if you used them all up in a quest thats that. In HFW while it seems like you only carry about half as much herbs worth of healing since you can directly call the extra from your stash into your pouch while in the middle of combat, you are actually carrying about 10X the max of the first game and are NEVER in any danger of dying.

[@navtektv]

Thanks for the Lance Reddick appreciation, that man isn't recognised enough in my opinion. I have enjoyed each and every one of his roles ever since I first saw him play Phillip Broyles in Fringe.

[@dangerousspaces9371]

YES! I first saw him in Lost but he was AWESOME in Fringe. Great in John Wick as well. Seriously there is something incredibly unique about him and his performances. I know it sounds weird but he can almost come across as otherwordly.

[@christophermire3872]

I think in time he'll be right up there with James Earl Jones and Keith Davis.

[@fireblade295]

He is literally my Morgan Freeman. He was awesome in Fringe. Immediately had to look him up the first time I met him.

[@313soldier313]

You should see him in The wire. Another great performance

[@SomewhatSlightlyBored]

TOYS 'R' MEEE!!!

[@frodobaggins7710]

As much as I enjoyed HZD, I'm so glad a lot of the inventory stuff has been streamlined for Forbidden West. Especially being able to just send stuff to the stash, that makes my little "collect everything" brain very happy

[@phonecallsarejustoverquali1556]

Slo-mo features in combat in games could merit a video all to itself. Many actiony games are just so fast and flashy these days. Sometimes a bit of time dilation is actually necessary for you to even appreciate what is going on and enjoy the quality of the animation. Or is it just me?

[@fireblade295]

I love it when I can get slomo in action games. Especially shooters.

[@slipstream7324]

nah, slo mo is a crutch. never use it, makes the game too easy

[@amidamaru4414]

@@slipstream7324 some of us want an easy game. Not everyone needs a challenge to enjoy something.

[@oscarclark8502]

Man, that golden fast travel pack would've been nice to know about. Guess it's a good thing I loved riding through the world so much

[@outsidextra]

I stumbled across it in a google search for something else and I nearly cried - E

[@swj719]

@@outsidextra I discovered it at some rando merchant, and I was like "HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN A THING?!?" It is very good I couldn't rought people up in the first game. I was incandescent with rage, since I was maybe 3 hours from finishing the game.

[@ivorydeluxe1672]

You guys wishing you knew about it sooner and here I am, knew all about it but never used it because I'm not fond of fast travel: 👁👄👁

[@leonardquirm]

I don't think I ever fast-travelled in my first play-through until I was doing collectables clean-up after the ending, simply because I loved existing in the world and trusted it'd reward me with enjoyable encounters if I made the actual journeys. But yeah, if I hadn't stockpiled the things before starting New Game+ a limited supply of Fast Travel packs would have got really annoying fast!

[@lobsterbobby4718]

Im so sorry that noone apperently knew about it

[@jurg4697]

The inventory change is honestly enough for me to want the game lol. In Zero Dawn there were so many times I'd have to either drop a bunch of stuff or waste a fast travel pack in order to get to a merchant

[@shaheerjazbhay1717]

For real, that change alone sold me more than any marketing for this game (granted, I was gonna buy it anyway, how could I not)

[@526235680]

Not to mention the ridge wood stashes which hog the inventory slots that nobody wants

[@zensoredparagonbytes3985]

In HZD big machines dropped loot boxes with resources in them. You could open them and break them down. Resources then went to your crafting inventory. Or you could hold on to them till you needed those crafting resources. I don't remember exactly how much of those loot boxes you could hold on to but I never ran out of crafting resources. And I barely fast travelled in HZD, except for the rare parts for upgrading. It took me over 130 hrs for the 1st playthrough and 100%.

[@eventhorizon2873]

This....

[@1993rnicholson]

@@zensoredparagonbytes3985 yeah id save all those loot boxes they were stupid useful

[@fireblade295]

Not even a minute in and I got chills. Edit: I would sign that petition for Lance Reddick to be in EVERY game. Love his voice and Fringe.

[@heatherwills3404]

My favorite part about HFW is that they had a good handle on what made the first game so compelling and they just gave you more of it. They focused on small teaks to enrich the experience without trying to reinvent the wheel. Though I'm not going to lie, I'm drowning in weapons and armor and I want to use all of them! So many outfits!!

[@skins4thewin]

My two favorite additions are the Stash and how machines now drop specific machine parts that you can use to craft. Those are two awesome changes! And the better climbing & gliding is of course nice too.

[@EliHooke]

That glinthawk takedown was beautiful and I so can't wait to try it myself this weekend! Did want to mention that you can create jobs for resources in Zero Dawn and you can also turn off those little triangles in settings so they only show up when you have the focus up (there'a a lot of little hud adjustments available in the settings), but it looks like they improved both of those options A LOT in Forbidden West! Again, I CANNOT WAIT!!

[@alwayswrite2011]

I'm going to be playing this game to death! HZD is my favorite game. It's beautifully rendered. The music is incredible. The voice acting amazing. And the story was presented as a mystery that just kept going. I loved it! And now, some thinks I had watching this video... 13:00 - HZD allowed you to create jobs for resources, too. 14:46 - Frozen Wilds introduced a puzzle element. I haven't looked, but it might have been to get feedback on whether or not players found it enjoyable. Personally, I wondered why the puzzles were missing from the rest of the game.

[@tacklebox_82]

I also love the option to keep all climbable paths highlighted. It helps a lot.

[@MatthewDoel32]

“I think we need to start a petition to get this man in every single video game” Sad, sad, sad sigh.

[@TheYorkRose]

Love this so much, just finishing the Ultra Hard playthrough in prep for it. All of these sound amazing*! *except the campfire thing doesn't matter to me because I got the unlimited fast travel about 5 hours into my first playthrough - but the 45 second wait each time I do it going away would make me very happy..!

[@d2factotum]

Be interesting to know what the load times are like on the PS4 version of Forbidden West--are they also improved?

[@TheYorkRose]

@@d2factotum I considered that because I'm likely to still be on the ps4 for some time - definitely slower than next gen and possibly won't work on my original console at all but also advances in how they manage this stuff may mean it's still faster? Presumably if I buy it digitally I can at least save it for later if I find it unbearable without the new console?

[@MrMBinder]

HZD is one of the only games where I've gotten *ALL* of the Steam achievements. I'm pretty sure I could "create jobs" when I played HZD on my PC last year. Maybe it was added as a patch with the "Complete Edition". Also; the first time I came to Meridian was when I bought the "Gold travel pack", so I guess that's just lucky for me. I just hope it'll be a bit easier to get hold of animal bits for crafting. Just murdering 10 foxes to get two skins, a bone, and a talisman seems a bit wasteful. Apart from all the (delicious) fox meat. Maybe I'll be able to get this game for my PC once I'm able to get a new graphics card (some time in 2023, I guess....)

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

You will be lucky if it has come to PC by 2023.

[@xfakexaxon6216]

The golden fast travel pack was actually available really early on in the game and didn't cost that much, 50 shards are easy to get, the fox skin and fatty meat were also really easy to get, the hardest thing to get there is the fox skin and it's because of rarity

[@Kravenrogue]

7:08 There was an Option to Turn off ALL those triangles, you Could make that they only show If You press The Focus or If you touched The touch pad

[@waywardscythe3358]

Horizon always reminded me of this old sci-fi series I read, where an ancient alien race sent a self replicating mining rig to Triton before going extinct. In the intervening billions of years, drones would lose the some of the data on how to build themselves and have to combine data with other similar drones, creating more and more unique drones that kept selecting for more generalized traits, creating and ecosystem of robotic analogs to plants animals and people.

[@GradyDP]

That sounds interesting, can you remember the title?

[@waywardscythe3358]

@@GradyDP unfortunately, no, sorry.

[@benhobson3084]

Commenting, because if you ever do remember the title, I want to be notified if it is posted.

[@waywardscythe3358]

@@benhobson3084 found it, “Code of the Lifemaker” fair warning, it’s been a long time since I tried to read it and I ended up putting it down the last time I did. Obviously the premise stuck with me though.

[@waywardscythe3358]

@@GradyDP Found it! “Code of the Lifemaker” like I warned the other guy, I ended up putting it down when I tried to read it last, I found it kind of boring. Though I was all the way back in high school,

[@DarthMader]

But creating jobs in order to get the resources required for certain upgrades was possible before, wasn't it? I distantly remember doing this in the first game...

[@Dark14Fairy]

yeah I was thinking the same thing

[@DarthMader]

The game highlighting the prey you need for the job is new, though. And, goodness me, that would've been a handy feature in the first one. I think it was some fowl that I spent about two hours trying to get to spawn and then chase down along the river Southeast of Meridian for one of the last upgrades I needed... - BTW, since I saw Ellen in the comments somewhere: Still a great video, I didn't mean to rain on your parade with my initial comment. I intended to give the sequel a pass (not much room to improve on the first one imho), but you might've changed my mind on that.

[@fireblade295]

It was, but never highlighted the areas nor telling you if it was dropped by specific mobs. It just tracked how many you needed.

[@Giga-lemesh]

I was thinking that too

[@rio23xh89]

R.i.P Lance reddick

[@notoriousbmc1]

Lance Riddick is excellent, but I can only see him as Agent Broyles, from FRINGE. Bit weird that Broyles is still around in the 31st century

[@nier_gard9236]

I see him as Commander Zavala and agent clappers from the animated show paradise PD. Bing bang boom!

[@shawngillogly6873]

Ahem. It's a robotic OTTER. Not a ferret. Otters are cuter. On a more serious complaint: I love the concept of Valor Surges. I'm less thrilled about how the requisite cutscene doesn't pause the enemies. So they're either dodging the kill shot you had just set them up for, or...even better...are now standing in your face ready to kill you.

[@theomnitorium7476]

Sounds all great! I loved the first game's atmosphere, but found it very clunky on the presentation side. Frozen Wilds had already improved a lot compared to the base game (especially the quiality of cut scenes) and it seems they have refined the gameplay even more. Can't wait to play it.

[@sudopod]

As a PC gamer, I look forward to playing this in 5 to 7 years.

[@eightninety.]

Heard a rumor pc port will be out by September

[@Tallenn]

@@eightninety. If that's true, I'll probably be able to play it PC before I can get my hands on a PS5!

[@AlienDenzil85]

As a PC gamer, I'm plodding my way through Zero Dawn. Absolutely loving it, but I'm hoping to string out the playthrough so I can perhaps start on Forbidden West when/if it' gets a PC release!

[@yugoprowers]

Yeah I'm in the same boat. I bought a PS4 a long time ago but never used it so I sold it, so I don't really want to buy a PS5 for one game.

[@nikkorocksalot5254]

All the inventory tweaks, including creating jobs to track resource hunting is just such a relief I hope all crafty games learn from this and make the process smoother for us to enjoy

[@Skapologist]

Seeing Varl made me… more emotional than I thought. Obviously Aloy was going to be in this game, but the NPCs I grew to love? Not guaranteed.

[@amypattie7004]

Somehow they knew we love him… and seeing him with a beard for some reason got me emotional. Like they’re all grown now.

[@weewee3486]

The NPCs were very well done in this game, very lovable both old and new

[@81684hnxv]

Did you mean Carl

[@mat_musicat]

The stash thing is more convenient, that’s right. But in terms of world building it makes more sense to search for specific resources (like Medicine, Chillwater, Echo Shells etc.). At times it was a bit annoying but exciting for real battle preparations. Though the resources categories are very welcome.

[@Otakukunoichi]

Considering how much of a pain the item management was in the late game for me, the changes have me sooooo relieved. Also tracking animals, THANK YOU DEVS. I still remember the rage of trying to find freaking goose and racoon skins.

[@chronicallychic]

The fecking raccoons! Every time I was scanning the environment for raccoons, it turned out to be a fox. Their shape was so similar.

[@Sai2424]

I got the golden travel pack pretty early in horizon zero dawn 🤔 All you needed was the Expert Carver ability. And that’s easily attainable if you farm some thunderjaws. Also, if you just take an hour or so to explore the map early game, you’ll pretty much get all the resources you need to purchase it.

[@kobitoergosum]

I'm mostly trying to steer clear of reviews but couldn't help watching yours... and I don't regret it. 💕 This is the first time I've ever pre-ordered a game because Zero Dawn is my favourite, and what we've been shown so far really inspires confidence that Forbidden West will be a fantastic experience. I can't wait to get my hands on this beautiful game myself! Can it be February 18th now, please?

[@megaselekmatos8519]

Today is the day!

[@kobitoergosum]

@@megaselekmatos8519 Yesss, started playing at midnight and am loving it so far. 💕

[@1993rnicholson]

I find it weird how nobody mentions the loss of the whistle in the sequel its seriously not cool I used that so much and rocks seriously dont make up for the loss of stealth capability

[@tonyxgamer6467]

I am playing through Horizon Forbidden West now. And I have played both Zero Dawn and the DLC. I was so happy that they kept the skilltree you get with the DLC as an default in the new game. I was also shocked but very intruiqed by their new settings for skill trees.meaning that for example Warrior and Hunter skill tree was a seperate thing even if they are very similar. The spear fighting is so nice!! Love it that you can mix up your fighting stances now. Also I want to mention what you did not mention in the video "Better character physics". In Zero Dawn you did meet many interesting characters with their each own stories. But... when they talked in an an dialouge. Like for when you speak with the different characters in dialouge when Aloy is talking to them for more inel and background or even the side missions, they are like all standing there, barely moveing theor arms, their face do lack of emotion, and... they keep their odd eyecontact of stareing🤣(they did improove this in the DLC), while in Forbidden west.... oh god! Im so happy for that change aswell! More movement and more facial expressions that suits their levle of voice and tone and emotion. Like if it is an movie!

[@trevoranderson1604]

As an Aussie I was so happy to see those kangaroos hop by 😍 !! 7:41

[@mischarowe]

Also as an Aussie I am ashamed to say I didn't notice that until you pointed it out.🙁

[@trevoranderson1604]

@@mischarowe it's super quick but the hops gave it away for me :)

[@Okinawatrip]

I freaking love your voice and commentary. Just the right amount of jokes and the exact right pace, not too quick, not too slow. Really nice to listen to.

[@Jute511]

Whilst the stash is a godsend, it is a tad ridiculous. Does Aloy FedEx stuff? Also, I didn't realise burrowers were ferrets, I was trying to figure out what animal they represented, so thanks.

[@abhishekvalsangkar]

This is exactly the kind of information I needed to tide me over until launch day, awesome idea for a review video.

[@jordanstark5924]

I wish I had it installed so I could check but I could've sworn Zero Dawn also had that job tracking thing. I don't think it was as robust but I think it existed.

[@amypattie7004]

Definitely exists

[@thebpphantom]

One of the first thing I did in HZD (PC) was get that Golden Pack. I think I was sub-10. SOOOO glad I did it. Glad to see HFW got over that.

[@skins4thewin]

I honestly never once needed to change weapons in my weapon wheel mid battle in the first game. 4 was more than I ever needed in a single battle. Still, the more the better I always say.

[@unbiasedcobra6672]

My favourite part is being able to fly. Yeah you need to finish basically the entire story but if you leave your side quests until you get it, it's amazing.

[@MsPurji313]

I LOVE how modern video games are bringing more accessibility in! I have watched let's plays for years of games that I am not able to do and, while I certainly believe games that don't have this (Soulsborne, etc.) totally have a place (and I will still watch them on YT), I am really happy to be able to tweak certain things so I can get my grubby little hands on them too!

[@NEKOSEI]

Did the new focus also hide the scanned animal behind the terrain as well? i can't tell you how often I would launch an arrow at a rat only to have a small hill to block the shot!

[@yocumaco13]

I actually stumbled across the golden fast travel pack a few hours into my first playthrough but didn’t read the description and continued using consumables for a few travels until i realized what i had bought.

[@Ammy-q4w]

I'm so glad the problems with the old game were fixed in the sequel. Hopefully, this will make it so I am good enough at the game to take on bigger machines more frequently.

[@Weissman111]

Kudos to the costume designers - the level of detail is amazing...and the auto-pickup opption is a godsend.

[@Slipknot4769]

Thanks for the great video! I personally think Forbidden West is one of the greatest examples in history of improving upon the game in the sequel. Apart from being able to understand all of the context in the story, Forbidden West basically renders Zero Dawn not necessary to even play anymore. And with the addition of the story recap at the beginning, it's actually viable to completely skip Zero Dawn entirely, but I wouldn't recommend that. P.S. Forbidden West deserves GOTY in my opinion.

[@spiritmuse]

The first thing I spent resources on in HZD was always inventory extensions so this new system is a very nice improvement! The fast travel thing confuses me a bit though. It's free but also costs travel packs? Or is it free as long as you're at a camp fire, but costs a travel pack if you're not? If so that seems a bit of a downgrade from having the gold travel pack, to be honest. I hope they'll have one so it'll be free 100% of the time again.

[@Slipknot4769]

Yes, it is free from fire to fire, but costs a pack to travel from the middle of nowhere to a fire. Hope that helps. :)

[@eventhorizon2873]

They should have added fasttravel between any campfire instantly(like tombraider), better with storeboxe next to it, in towns with merchands. If so alot more people would have enjoyed Hzd, there would be more structure in the game. You can focus on the game story. Insane you have to leave shit behind with value, because you need like 3 items to craft stuff, i came to a point, where i wanted to break the disc in half after killing a huge boss, findkig out i could not cary more stuff. Hzd is way overhyped, mechanics should have value too in a review. Basicly the basics for any game

[@Urahara451]

I like that none of the added features conflict with established lore/progression from Zero Dawn. It’s all things that were previously unlockable being native or that can be explained with new gear or skills. “Why couldn’t the focus do this before?” Because Aloy was still learning how to use/program it. “Why can we do all the mount things from the get go?” Because they were unlocked in the last game. “How can she do all these attacks now?” She’s not an inexperienced teen anymore. Stuff like that

[@shannonolivas9524]

One way it's not better than Zero Dawn (for me): It's not on PC. I was so looking forward to this. Now best case scenario I'll get to buy it a few years down the line :-( How to avoid spoilers till then...

[@Immopimmo]

Yeah... sucks. Plus consoles suck for game development as a whole. So many new games are held back and made worse because they're made to run on last gen consoles instead of modern PC's.

[@yugoprowers]

@@Immopimmo Yeah when Ellen was talking about long load times all I could think was not on PC with an SSD or an NVMe.

[@CuriousMind477]

I do overall like the look of the things they added. I am however not super happy that they apparently fry the Shieldweaver armor right away. The "Metroid" strategy is not surprising, but DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD I WORKED FOR THOSE DAMN POWER CELLS?!

[@marsvin55]

Now THIS is how you make a sequel! Dang nice job!

[@samuxan]

I loved zero down and didn't notice most if these annoyances until I played the dlc years later. I'm glad they have sorted out things like the item management. Sadly I won't have the time to play on day one

[@Smurfaliscous]

I am so unbelievably hyped for this game. I have the Regalla Edition pre-ordered and I just bought the comics so I can catch up on those before release!

[@zebraflavoured]

YEEES!! Oh my god the excitement i felt in my heart when you started out with the incredible inventory improvement?? Great game made perfect!!! So excited that you´re covering this!!

[@Road_to_Dawn]

“Oooh, more health?! …Oh, Firekiln Root.” RIGHT?! I felt that so hard. I’m not alone in my eternal struggle with Zero Dawn \o/ Man, these QoL additions are SOOO nice

[@Aslimb6gd]

Unrelated list suggestion. (Has nothing to do with this game) 7 lackluster boss fights that were saved by epic music. Because we'd sleep on them and never take interest in that battle again if the soundtrack wasn't so darn awesome. Examples: the Basilisk (Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets for PS2), Eredin (the Witcher 3: Wild Hunt), Dark Beast Ganon (Breath of the Wild), and I'm sure you could fit a Sonic boss or two on such a list.

[@moniquelegarda1842]

I got this game on day one and am thoroughly enjoying the experience so far. I am taking my sweet time exploring everything on the map and doing every sidequest Aloy runs across. This game is a beauty.

[@skyz]

RIP Lance.

[@CrazyJabberwock]

I feel the pull caster could stand to be even more handy. Imagine using it to collect items just out of reach. Like machine weapons or a part that fell out of bounds. Or even using it to yoink human enemies like the bat claw or to latch into machines for a hard strike and/rapid override.

[@monkeybrain9859]

HZD was one of the main reasons I picked up a PS4. This will be a must-buy. Great vid!

[@lambo2655]

I love all the improvements they made except for one, camp fires you find are no longer marked green on the map like they were in ZD. I don’t know why they went with keeping them all white. It’s much easier to see the green when you’re zoomed out of the map to know if it was unlocked for fast travel use. It’s a minor complaint in the grand scheme of things but it’s noticeable.

[@SolaScientia]

The stash seems a welcome improvement since I quickly ran out of space in the brief bit I played of Zero Dawn. I like the changes to the Focus as well. I also found all the triangles for resources distracting and I'd often wander off gathering resources (or seeing if it was stuff I could pick up) and get side-tracked from whatever quest I was doing. I didn't mind walking that much in Zero Dawn, because the map is deceptive. I'd look at it and think about how far away a location was, but then getting there always took way less time than I thought. It's the same thing Kingdoms of Amalur does: make the map seem massive, but then it never takes as long as expected to travel. I'm waiting on getting the game, all that said. I never got far in Zero Dawn, because I felt bored and a bit overwhelmed at times. I loved the beginning, but that feeling started fading once Aloy was out on her own. As you mentioned, all the icons got distracting and overwhelming. The other issue was all the herds of machines. I felt like I wasn't going more than 50 yards without running into a herd that I needed to avoid or kill. I usually just ran/rode through them as fast as possible because I got sick of constantly fighting. I wanted to explore without constantly watching for machines. I get they're a main point of the game, but it felt tiresome after a while. I stopped playing when I got into the side quest that involved taking out 2 smaller camps before taking out the bigger camp at the stadium in the northeast of the map. The enemies always found me no matter how stealthy I thought I was being and I was always overwhelmed. I didn't have my mount with me, because I got sick of the mounts dying on me or needing repairs in order not to die. The people I was helping seemed basically useless for killing the enemies as well. I'd like to try to finish HZD, but it's not a game very high on my list right now. It's a game I want to love and one I did love at the start, but little things added up to the point that I uninstalled it to make room for others. Forbidden West looks very pretty indeed and I'm happy for those who are looking forward to it and who love Zero Dawn, but I'm waiting on it for now.

[@samdilks9516]

Any changes that make it easier to kill glinthawks are very welcome

[@1957DLT]

I've been replaying the Lara Croft Survivor trilogy, and I've often thought that poor Lara is like a less joyous Aloy. Now you tell me that Aloy is getting primitive puzzles too! Cannot wait to play.

[@fakjbf3129]

Wait, you didn't know about the Golden Fast Travel Pack? I picked it as soon as I left the Sacred Lands, you can get it from the first trader you meet at the border to the Carja territory. And a single fox skin isn't really that expensive.....

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

Fun fact: on PS5, you can go into the settings and set fast travel screens to auto-load as fast as possible, eliminating the "Press X to Continue" button. I LOVE the options menu in this game!

[@Diabl05564]

Normally I try to avoid watching review or tips videos as they usually have spoilers in them. Your channel does a good job at not spoiling content and gives a decent warning in case you are going to say one.

[@kyokonightstorm5844]

I now only want Forbidden West even more. And I didn't think that was possible. So congrats Ellen. Side Note: I recall the ability to create jobs to track crafting projects and purchases in Zero Dawn. Don't think it showed where the machines were though. And definitely not where to find animal parts.

[@fireblade295]

You're right, it didn't.

[@lnsflare1]

7:20 For what it's worth, that was an option in HZD as well, you just have to toggle it on in the menu.

[@ChrissieBear]

RIP Lance Reddick.

[@siegfriedaxn12]

Im sure that Setting Jobs for materials were in Horizon Zero Dawn too but, by the time i noticed it, I had all my parts...

[@fireblade295]

Highlight areas wasn't.

[@andrevonlandsberg8979]

I Actually never used fasttravel expect for special reasons like "I just wanna go check and see if there's something new at that old settlement" now instead of having to go all the way back there, just to see there isn't anything new, and having to go all the way back, doesn't happen, I just travel there and then one of 2 things happen 1.There is something there, I fast travel back, and then go there normaly 2.There isn't something there, I fast travel back and just leave it But I barley ever do that and that's probably why I have over 100 hours on the game but don't have as much loot or progress than others who apparently do fast travel

[@Sableagle]

Ellen: "Yay! We love physics!" Flatearthers: {unsubscribe}

[@penguingonemad]

Oh my God, such a tiny change but the crafting job update has me hyped. Finding ancient armor in HZD? Easy. Finding owl skin and a rat bone? Forget about it. 100 hours in and still never seen either. Also... THAT GLINTHAWK KILL, ELLEN!! 😱

[@shelobnegruth]

lance reddick(sp?) also a great actor - plays a lot of police stuff and i really like his characters

[@swj719]

He's bloody amazing in Bosch.

[@FelisImpurrator]

I very much like Aloy's new look. That techy armor is incredible, and her new hair and face honestly look great. Sucks that I can't get it on PS5... I don't want to dig in on just a PS4, but I probably won't get an upgrade to that for over a year, because I'm Focusing on a new PC and the weak point is my wallet.

[@grapes008]

Creating jobs for weapon upgrades, yeah that was in the first game. And you could track wildlife in the focus too, people just didn't notice you could press triangle

[@ricardodarcangelo2437]

Ellen, 10/10 on that pullcaster/glider kill, that was so clever. Never would've thought of that

[@TheROOTminus1]

How to make Forbidden West? Take a solid game, massage inventory and fast travel, throw in a handful of Tomb Raider best bits, and a sprinkle JC3 grapple-chuting. Sounds good to me

[@merulasnyde8038]

Well, in Forbidden West you can fly is a simple reason it's better tbh.

[@cybrarp2236]

Oh, Ellen, you poor soul. You didn't notice the unlimited fast travel pack in the original game until recently? That thing was a lifesaver. And I did a lot of side hunting to upgrade packs and stuff so I was able to get that golden pack more or less right away. Seriously though I've been doing everything I can not to spoil details for myself so seeing all the little quality of life things made me squee even more than the whole "Wait, we have a glider now?!" part. And hearing you say that the game is good right from the get-go made me stare longingly at Friday all the more.

[@jessicalee333]

Being able to set up your own goals and add them to your quest log like that is such an amazing idea!

[@chelseaestebat1121]

hunting boars early game is a pain in HZD, but if you use Fire Arrows instead of the lowly Hunting Arrows, it only takes 1 arrow to kill one instead of 3. it took me 7 playthroughs and 3 accounts in platinum to realize this XD

[@davidtruett8255]

Rip Lance Reddick 😔

[@TommyRayzer]

Forbidden West is the only game I have ever preordered and the release date countdown timer (even when it was down to mere hours) was PAINFUL TO SEE!!! I love this game so much. I hope that we somehow get 10 sequels, or maybe even a World of Warcraft style game where there is one persistent Horizon world that they keep adding to over time (As long as it isn't a money hungry project like Warcraft is). The Horizon world is also the first and only time that I wish that I could live in their world, in the future but back to a much simpler time.

[@kismetsantos1204]

"Huge open world games should not limit on fast travels" WE ARE FUCKING LOOKING AT YOU, JEDI FALLEN ORDER!!!! >:((

[@tristan3976]

The changes with the focus took some time to get used to but it's SUCH an improvement!!

[@WickedRibbon]

Yes!💥 It's great to hear that Zero Dawn's inventory and UI have been smartened up. Those were the main flaws of an otherwise impeccable adventure, imo.

[@brucenatelee]

I think we used to dodge out of melee attacks, which was nice. Because enemies don't flinch, it is almost useless for most of the combat. Coll combos though.

[@jmw9904]

When I started seeing Forbidden West gameplay and videos, I think I was expecting you would be doing more stuff with Sylens, going after Hades, and possibly fighting one of the machines that looks like an octopus.

[@migicalmerwee9018]

Wow, this might as well have been a list of 7 problems I had with Zero Dawn, looking forward to getting to Forbidden West.

[@jeanetten.s.8557]

Oh God, yes, the spear combat. I spent 3 out of the 5 hours I played today just on the Pitmaster challenge in the Bulwark.

[@BexMcInulty]

This is going to be painful but the unlimited fast travel thing is something you can actually get quite early in the game. In fact I believe I only crafted 2 or 3 fast travel packs ever. You were also able to create jobs for resources for upgrades and armor before 😅