Horizons Pilot Training - Fighter Pilots

[@julopabene8736]

I can't wait until we can have multiple players onboard that we can take out and have adventures with.

[@KaybeCA]

Dear Frontier, The current act of leveling up pilots from a low rank to a new one is utterly utterly pointless due to permadeath. By forcing ironman mode on these NPCs, you're basically telling your players that weeks or even months of pilot training could be lost in an instant just because a turret accidentally clipped a security ship and caused them to turn on you. Or you accidentally boosted inside a station. Or jumped in between two very hot stars. Or any number of other things that could kill you outside your control. And forget PVP completely. No one would ever PVP with a trained pilot. Just the thought alone is ludicrous. Your players are upset and have zero interest in leveling up pilots or keeping any on roster because of it. Higher ranked hired pilots simply take far too big a cut, even not being used, so people are only using them for a single use and then firing them right away rather than keeping them. Your NPC pilot mechanic is in VERY bad shape right now and you need to go back to the drawing board on this one. 1) Remove permadeath for hired pilots. Make players actually want to level them up. We keep engineering mods and materials when we die, so why not pilots? Why does our material bay get an escape pod but not our crew? lol 2) Drastically reduce the cut for pilots not actively being used on the player's ship. Why would an expert pilot take 12% of my cut from Sothis runs when he's just sitting in port? That makes no sense. forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/288943-Frontier-Please-Don-t-Kill-Our-Crew%21 Regards, A very disappointed Keelback lover.

[@Morne555]

i switched ships to go to the maia cg, my anoconda's jump range isnt that good so i decided to jump in my (single seater) dbe. My pilot still takes a cut from my kills despite her being about 400 LY's away. Its stupid that inactive crew takes a cut.

[@Morne555]

HirXeBomb but were you paid a one off payment and a share in the profit the company made for the duration of your contract? Its not quite the same. Based on the average price of goods, its not like they get paid peanuts, 10% share of 1 mil is 100k. After a bounty hunting session in a res site my expert pilot was a millionaire, she had enough to go and retire on, buy a house, buy a few tons of progenitor cells, wine ect to do her a life time. They cant really moan about not getting paid while on shore leave, while you are doing all the work. You can hire up to three pilots, if you did, that would cost you anywhere from 30% to 48% of your profits for elite ranked pilots, 18% to 36% for three expert pilots. Thats a huge chunk from your profits. If inactive crew members didn't take a cut then it would be a viable option to hire a couple of spare pilots.

[@FancyaBevMate]

This is what will bring me back to ED again as up until now the game felt "lonely" now even in solo play it will feel alive great job frontier

[@ThePapino134]

4:04 tutorial not found

[@scottparr5606]

Please give us an option to buy an escape pod for our co pilots and at least a chance of a way to recover them. I don't like the permadeath being automatic, especially considering the many ways the game can bug out and destroy your ship. Like when I land and take off from ports and the dock freezes and timer is counting down, or when the game suddenly loses my docking pad on the way in.

[@sanchousf]

"Fighter that rank up through combat experience will take less profit than a hired one of the same rank, making it cheaper to nurture a pilot." Omg. The most realistic game ever XD

[@jaretbottoms5368]

Why can't my type 7 have ship launched fighters and is a large ship yet a keel back can and its a small size?!

[@Bakamoichigei]

All ships that can take SLF bays already had bay doors in their designs. They may expand to other ships in the future, who knows, but for now their decision may or may not be based simply on not having to remodel the ships... I hear you though, it's pretty dumb, and the Keelback is ridiculously squishy.

[@TinnedWaffles]

They won't remodel the ships when theres always the option to have a tiny shuttle-fighter to be launched SRV-style out of the cargo bay.

[@Bakamoichigei]

***** You say that, but so far the excuse I've been hearing for the choice of ships, is that these ships that can take SLF bays already had the additional bay doors designed in. So I'd think if they were going to just make SLF and SRV bays interchangeable they would've done that from the start. ┐(シ)┌ But I hope they at least do some adjustments so that makes sense, because as the parent question points out, it's kinda dumb that the Keelback can fit a bay and the Type-7 can't...when the Keelback is a modified Type-6. :\

[@NichoTBE]

Hang on a minute, not played this game in months, so u can potentially hire 3 pilots (or 10 if you wanted to?) and not have anything for them to do cos u dont have the fighter bay and they will still take like 10-15% of your profits each even tho they arent even on the ship? And what about if you go to warp without them, do they follow you into warp?

[@Plorpoise]

NichoTBE They won't do anything but take money. That being said, why would you hire a pilot to do nothing?

[@NichoTBE]

***** I was just curious the game mechanics would still allow it.

[@Morne555]

they still take money even if you decide to jump into sidewinder.

[@janthony21]

Does the NPC pilot die when the mothership is destroyed, or does their contract with you end abruptly? (And they refuse to ever fly with you again.) Please consider making NPC crew members "Tier 2 NPCs" who become hireable at increased ranking after they leave your service.

[@InkubusGames]

Such fast portrait display... Generated or not it is not acceptable.

[@VicRaptor2589]

Frontier, it would be nice if you guys add the physical NPC in your ship, the anaconda has 3 sits....

[@Burneri]

why oh why... having pilots take % of all the PROFIT while inactive makes something like trading take huge profit hit and makes it almost pointless to do... expecially if you hire more than 1 pilot...

[@morrgash]

So if the pilot in my ship then who is in the small ship? because i can see someone in it.

[@KarnBlueEarring]

They said it in the video. "Telepresence"

[@morrgash]

Karn Yeah but you shouldn't see someone in the other ship, it would be like a drone.

[@KarnBlueEarring]

Yes and no. Have you seen this Elite short-movie? watch?v=HamHFVeAVe0 It is fan-made, but Frontier pronounced this as being official to the Elite lore. There you'll see and understand what "Telepresence" really is. But in short: It's like a hologram, but it can be interacted with.

[@thedafool]

Is there a list of ships that can have fighters?

[@georgerose1252]

Liam Rooke Yes. Check the 2.2 update notes.

[@WarsunJurei]

Also check the video around the 40second mark, it has the list.

[@thedafool]

sweet thanks guys, gonna kill me to sell the clipper but I really wanna try it out

[@devandunivan9937]

i like this system

[@silverburn55]

4bn credits???? wow.

[@canisrah]

second

[@levetation5343]

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