Hornby 10 car class 800 running at Jubilee Road

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[@soharicmedia388]

3:17 running as a five car is also realistic. In fact, it's more realistic than running 800004 coupled to...800004.

[@dominichartley5537]

Very true. But I'm sure the more serious modeller would change the numbers (and probably the coupling method too)!

[@7APT7]

Hi Matt, Great Blog, i managed to link two Virgin Voyagers together, but i used the coupling that it as on the front, by removing the two couplings from two Dummy Voyagers and then with a micro Drill and 0.5 or 0.3 Drill Bit (very, very very small, don’t drop them as it will take you a year to find them lol) and Two Nut & Bolts of the same size, then after Drilling the Two Holes and using a mini pair of Crocodile Nose Pliers, slide one bolt in one way and on the other side, slide the other bolt in, getting the nut on such a small bolt was the hardest part, along with having Eagle Eyes or Magnifier Glass Holder to see what you are doing put the Nuts on the Bolts, easier said then done! Then just a case of putting the coupling back in the Voyagers and Bobs your Uncle. I also done a similar thing with a Virgin Pendolino to enable it to hook up to the Class 57, and it looks really smart, but remember with the Pendolino you need to use a fine saw or Knife and keep scoring the grove on the Pendolino till it comes off, that will reveal the Coupling in side. As Always Huge 👍Thumbs up👍 and Smashed the 🛎

[@MrPal1966]

Great video, loved seeing the full 10 car set running round the layout, what a great model.

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks patrick

[@onthetrax9669]

Wow love it!! It's so clever how you worked it out!!

[@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333]

Great video. ☺️ I just subscribed to your KZbin channel. ☺️

[@SuperHawksworth]

Bet you have never had so much fun with a paper clip. Looks really great seeing the two sets together

[@Mattslade6024]

haha no David. yeah did look good

[@MrMartigues1]

That was brilliant Matt ! The 10 car looks superb

[@Mattslade6024]

Thanks Tony

[@NewJunction]

Hmm there must be a better way to connect the two sets...... You'll have to send me your so I can find out! ;-D

[@Mattslade6024]

yeah there must be. well i might find its way to your layout

[@TrainBoy66YT]

Great video mate very enjoyable I love the class 800 model by hornby

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks very much

[@J4Joseph]

I'm not sure if you can do this with your controller (presuming its DCC) maybe by resetting the decoders or something but you may be able to get a more realistic look by turning off the headlights on the two middle driving cars as with real 10 car sets the headlights aren't usually on, on the coupled driving cars 😀

[@stucktwit8738]

Well done for doing it looks great. Be good if it did come with an adaptor to do this and possibly a switch underneath to isolate the joining tail and headlights other than that, love it!

[@Colin21454]

Very nice Matt, another idea, couple 8 cars go with the drive and dummy car, hopefully Hornby will come up with better solution for coupling 2 units together

[@glrailways7954]

Colin Prosser we did try that (the second 800 in the vid was mine!) but it struggled to pull the whole train. it was because of all the pickups pressing on each coach was causing drag. Did look good though!

[@tomlawton7087]

Of course, you could use the two motor cars to pull the coaches for the eight-car rake. After all, you have already done the consist for the two locos in the ten-car rake. Nice to see the unusual running of such a long train!

[@glrailways7954]

Tom Lawton we did want to. But because of the couplings you cant hook them up. So irritating!!

[@davidstrains4910]

It's great that these models have the opening nose feature will look great seeing them like this on people's layouts

[@Mattslade6024]

yeah. its good that Hornby did that

[@DungeWoodRailway]

Great to see the two sets running, looks superb. I have to agree the coupling system seems poor and clearly not thought out. Im sure someone will come up with something that looks okay and works eventually. Cheers Paul

[@Mattslade6024]

yeah they did look going running round the layout

[@HungryGuyStories]

"The world is flat!" "The world is round, you moron!" "The world is flat and is on the back of a giant turtle!" "Actually, the world is inside a giant's attic!"

[@Mattslade6024]

sounds like you need help

[@DeanPark]

maybe the coupler was just for being hauled by a loco in the case of a failure? And not with two sets together? Just thinking out loud!

[@Mattslade6024]

you might be right Dave

[@stucktwit8738]

Interestingly , I believe Hitachi are trying to write in a clause to try to prevent loco recovery insisting that another class mate goes out to recover which takes a full set out of service ??...so an insider told me ?

[@South_Devon_Trains]

That is very interesting

[@linesided]

They couple together into 10 car sets all the time.

[@piccadillymodelrailways]

Sooooo impressive, and yes I think you are right Jubilee Road is the only channel so far thats run the double cl 800, certainly the first to review it. Devon Model Railway has reviewed but stopped short of running it. Oh well. What a faff to couple them though. I cannot understand Hornby, they go a long to produce an exceptional model and fall on such a tiny but yet crucial feature. Wondering though if someone has produced a flexible OO gauge coupling which might work. Although, suppose it depends if you choose to run 2x5 cars or 1x10, what youve done WORKS. Perhaps you should send the ufea to Hornby and collect the royalties. Lol I model in N gauge am soo looking forward to the pendolino, currently and really on a slow boat from China. Hopefully in next couple of weeks lol.

[@Mattslade6024]

it is a great model. just it small things lets if down a bit

[@kingorry7223]

ON THE EXACT SAMD DAY SOMEONE ELSE DID A 10 CAR FORMATION

[@user-mn5el4gb4d]

Published on my b-day what luck!

[@sparky107107]

i think the biggest problem is the price. and Hornby figures no one can afford the two sets. . the other thing is what you said, Jubilee Road is the only railroad where two have been run together. so hornby played the percertages. i bet most people don't even know the nose cone comes off. well they do now.. great running shot for sure. and look forward to what was next sitting there at the end..

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks very much. yeah the price is very high on this set

[@ashevilletrainman6989]

Maybe switch one of the couplers so its like a hook hooking the other hook, flip a coupler around

[@0zwarrior]

How about trying NEM kadees. They swivel at the ends. Ten looked good though.

[@Mattslade6024]

yeah will be trying them

[@garylewis1422]

Very nice. Runs nice as a 10 car👌

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks

[@kellyashfordtrains2642]

A single Sprinter Car, that's nice. However, I think Rood Ashton Hall and Lydham Manor are jealous because the Class 800 was running and they weren't. Usually, steam engines are used to celebrate railway events. I guess the Class 800 is nice, but I would have preferred it if Lydham Manor had done the honors. It's up to you, you're the boss, it's just that, in my book, Steam Rules Supreme.

[@SimonLivertonCentral]

Very nice Matt, and well thought out. I do think you should mention the coupling problems you had to Hornby, weather or not the care is another issue...Simon

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks Simon

[@thebritfarmer]

I don't have this set but have heard that the NEM Kadees #20 should work

[@Mattslade6024]

yeah iv herd that now as well

[@TATICMOOR]

I would take two mid to large long sized NEM couplers, and cut away the D loop and hook at both sides of the coupler shaft. Then with a mini drill bit set, carefully drill a hole through the end were you cut away the D loop from. Drill the hole from the top to the bottom vertically as you need them to be able to swing left and right. Make the hole big enough to hold the small diameter of a split mini key ring link loop. Praise the ring open with pointy nosed pliers, then add a touch of some black paint and leave to dry. Next day loop it through the drilled holes in the NEMs with the drilled hole large enough for free left to right swivel movement. Reclose the mini chain ring. Now you should have two opposite connectable NEM couplers, with a mini ring joining the two in the centre. Which should allow for just the perfect amount of left to right swivel on track curves and points. Add to the mini ring and a spot of fine oil in the drilled holes for smooth friction free movement between the ring and the plastic couplers. I have not tried this myself as I just thought of it after watching the blog and reading the added comments below. If someone tries this, whether it works or fails please leave a reply with your thoughts about this coupler solution.

[@maxheadroom7687]

Mightly impressive Matt! Love the set but phew it's a Lot of money! Especially when it's converted to Aussie dollars!

[@Mattslade6024]

its is a lot of money. only one of the set is mine in this vid. i would not pay for 2 of them haha

[@tomlawton7087]

How did you arrange the power cars? If you had the power car at the front, and the dummy from the same set at the rear, then the two engines from the other set in the middle could be run with the lights off. I’m with the suggestion that a drawbar is the way to go; if it has to bend, then put a collection of cuts in each side so it can be flexible. (I suspect s-bends will still be a challenge!) Otherwise, a close coupling kit would allow the room during s-bends, but keep it close on the straights. Still, it’s impressive to see it running; the power cars in the middle emphasise the length of the train excellently! Regards, Tom

[@Mattslade6024]

both set were the same way round. the power car were at the front of each set

[@Ed_Gilbert]

Do you use capture to record this? Well because I have hit 60 subscribers I am showing you how I edit my videos and also I use iMovie

[@DentalHygieneTipsUk]

GWR operate 5 cars sets aswell, 5 car units run to Oxford from Paddington

[@Meengineer100]

GWR are meant to run the IETs as 10 car sets... Anyway, nice one, they really do look brilliant, but very silly of Hornby for messing up the coupling system.

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks

[@DJModelRailway]

Very interesting, I have two and something I will be looking at with Kadee couplings. But a lot of ill thought on Hornbys part, fantastic detail and model, but lacks some crucial thinking. Cheers for sharing :)

[@morgenergy4074]

DJ Model Railway I think that's the case with a lot of Hornby products these days - all smoke but no cigar, as some might say?

[@DJModelRailway]

Fully agree and while people are complaisant and don't express their views then they will keep doing it, thanks to Matt and others for their honest opinions. Something I will join into when I get further on my channel.

[@Mattslade6024]

i all ways give a honest review on the models

[@kellyritchie6265]

Where did you get that set from because I've been looking everywhere for one but can't find it in a five car set

[@saltleywsc]

Hornby haven't put any thought into this have they!

[@kingorry7223]

On the exact same day, somebody made a 10 car formation of the 800 aswell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@matthewalbery8827]

Hi everybody. I am not involved in model railways and such but watching this good video made me wonder if a possible solution to the problem could be to acquire an old PCMCIA slot from an old laptop and somehow jury-rig part of that to a coupler on the model, that way the coupler could be retracted inside the nose cone of each model when not in use? Best Wishes

[@jillmclaughlin5521]

Ask Hornby to make a coupling with two universal joints one at each end, that would do the trick.

[@paulm3965]

Matt good video, have you considered Kadee couplers? I believe there are other couplers on the market that are authentic to the modern couplers for the 800 loco. Other point if you run a ten car set and why not, it should be DCC and not DC. I was informed by Hornby many years ago with running DC, one train, one track, one controller. It was explained to me that the controller would be overloaded. But it is your layout and your decision. Loved the video, I have just ordered a 800 set from Hattons. I can recommend a suitable decoder if you go over to DCC. Check out Richards Everhard junction very informative.

[@lindasreef]

A very nice model and train Matt.

[@NewJunction]

You should get one Linda! ;)

[@lindasreef]

Yeah, just need to extend!

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks Linda

[@stephenlittle7534]

Does the dummy coupler swing. If it does put a strong mini magnet on both to couple the trains together my be.?

[@evertonblake7320]

That means it will look like a wooden train but its hornby

[@BrianPannier]

I wonder if it would be possible to make a “66 drag” consist with the 800

[@Mattslade6024]

dont no not tried that. it might work

[@coopergreen7578]

can i suggest that you use kaydee NEM pocket couplers?

[@Mattslade6024]

yeah that might work

[@RedShedNick]

Well done Matt how ingenious of you.well done,amazing 10 car sight! Matt is that Daniel Gooch loco times two,or is it a different running number ,cheers Nick.

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks. yeah both sets were Daniel Gooch

[@RedShedNick]

matt slade thsnkyou Matt.

[@connorwills5081]

Great video, they look awesome running together! 😎 Did you try the couplings at the other ends of the units? The tooling may be different.

[@Mattslade6024]

yeah we did. they are the same at both ends

[@jamesjosephjjdyer3368]

Matthew well well mate what a flaming proformance that you had to couple up a 2 5 car class 800 as you know that the real class 800 have some problems but nothing on which you had to deal with at Jubilee Road. Finally it's not a Locomotive that's coming to Jubilee Road it's a GWR class 153 you silly billy. JJ

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks JJ

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

10 car cucumber

[@jcsa13]

El chuuu chuuu

[@saltleywsc]

Suppose it wouldn't work with two couplers and the hook removed form one ?

[@Mattslade6024]

we did try that. it came of the track

[@GWRailFan]

Great video mate, shame those coupling don't work it's looking great

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks

[@jomama05]

I have ones like this where the curves are too small. The smallest curves I have to run are about 914mm equivalent

[@howarth004]

Nothere27 looks well with a rake like that

[@ukdieselandelectricrailway1890]

I have a way to do it... but it would require some surgery. I'm good at 3D modelling, and I could invent a coupling with a swinging NEM pocket located in the hole, so you could use the same kind of bar couplings that Bachmann use on their class 150. I'd design it so the nose cone can be located in the new swinging NEM socket with a plug, and when you want to run them in multiple, you push a NEM bar in one vehicle, then push the other vehicle up to it, which will insert into the new NEM swinging socket in the nose of that vehicle. I'd need some detailed photos, or even better, a vehicle to work off. I could have a design uploaded to Shapeways in a few days.

[@nigelcarter9503]

Whoops, Hornby.

[@soundseeker63]

Ought to drop Hornby a letter, this is clearly a silly oversight on an otherwise nice model. I'm sure they could fix it with a fairly cheap and easy alteration even if its something as simple as different NEM couplings. The set looks really smart otherwise.

[@MrVinnyh]

I was expecting to see a bit string! lol, I must admit Hornby should have made provisions to couple a pair of units together well pointed out Matt

[@Mattslade6024]

yeah would have been nice of them haha

[@trainspotting4401]

Could you use a staple

[@robd2184]

Luckily I can’t afford a ten car version or possibly a five ...

[@South_Devon_Trains]

That's a shame

[@crichton2121]

What about a heljan class 47 draw bar?

[@Mattslade6024]

that might work

[@mikeyb444]

Deeply enthused Voiceover provided by Bryn from Gavin & Stacey.😄

[@Mattslade6024]

haha that was my second job :)

[@archie4686]

wer do you get it from

[@alfiewhittaker3763]

brilliant bodge job but it works and looks grand

[@Mattslade6024]

thanks. yeah seemed to wok well

[@alfiewhittaker3763]

although hornby could improve the coupler assembly

[@channelejg5862]

I have 2 x 5 car sets and see exactly what u mean! It a shame it doesn’t work but never mind. I may speak to Hornby about it!

[@morgenergy4074]

Even on a seriously anticipated, rather pricey model like this, Hornby still manage to somehow seem incompetent. As you say, it's 2018 - I'd expect to do something like this in my childhood with toys, not a fully fledged product like this one. That's a right cock-up right there. Maybe they thought people would only use the dummy coupling for the looks? Who knows.

[@Mattslade6024]

dont no what they were thinking. hornby do like doing things like this

[@colinbrown5416]

Well Matt,I'm not buying any more hornby..I have problems with every loco.

[@Mattslade6024]

it does seem to be getting worse now

[@archie4686]

Colin Brown5

[@WDG13031]

I think I can design a "replacement" coupler for these.

[@al66class59]

6:55 gwr 153

[@memetheif5554]

Are you sure it’s not yours? Because my nem pocket moves

[@kend5164]

I just made a nasty little stinker Matt it stinks

[@Takedownairsoft1]

PFFFFFT I’ve seen 20 cars

[@dgattenb]

for 400 quid per set thats very poor

[@evielouise4291]

sounds annoying and a bit of idk fiddle

[@Mattslade6024]

yeah it is. hope ti find a better way of doing it at some point