Horror Game Where Your Sister Decides To Eat The Neighbor - The Coffin of Andy and Leyley

[@ManlyBadassHero]

Welcome to the Hello Neighbor Club, how Hello Neighbor are ya? Sequel parts in this playlist: tinyurl.com/39bzv6j6

[@walterbrink5391]

Day 370 of asking Manly to play A Cold Love Story through KZbin comments

[@batterib]

mmm, nothing like a little bit of cannibalism :D

[@RedHotCopperTop]

Hello

[@notaperson7986]

sup neighbor, its not like theres gonna be "some" murdering, and cannibalism, theres probably gonna be alot

[@Koffiee]

Howdy, cute sibling neighbors….😳

[@biggiecheez4289]

I just realized the nurse took their blood so that the hotel would know who to harvest blood from and the main reason why Andrew and Ashley don't receive food is because they have an AB blood type, which is rarely ever donated and used.

[@claragemheart581]

I have AB blood, am i gonna be okay

[@modestMismagius105]

@@claragemheart581 as long as you aren't locked in the 4th floor of an apartment building during a government sanctioned organ harvesting operation, you should be fine 👍

[@claragemheart581]

@@modestMismagius105 oh yeah! Thanks for the tip

[@Evalora]

blood type is relevant in organ donation, it's implied they were only visited with a blood draw once and it'd be rather obvious to them if there was outright donation-grade blood drawing happening every so often, whereas being kept around as an unwitting donor on demand (and your lack of value of such) keeps you in the dark in a sense

[@Coolsubs0]

I’m AB-

[@neizanmendez6317]

A sociopath and a PTSD victim eat their neighbour and commit first degree murder while escaping their captors, great way of bonding

[@SkySquad]

Sociopath isnt a useful word here, and im pretty sure both of them have ptsd

[@osanakatie2]

The guy killed himself dont get it wrong

[@neizanmendez6317]

@@osanakatie2 I'm taking about the guard and the staple gun girl

[@kataleykataleyadavis5268]

Oh

[@borderline_sunshine]

Who's the socio and who's the ptsd victim-

[@donnaabbott2079]

46:02 man, it always hilarious when manly goes to start reading a line then realizes, "wait i can't read that on youtube" and just goes silent suddenly mid line read.

[@zpotatocryptid6943]

Reminds me of that one Darth Maul Bob Ross video

[@mangutroop]

Oh right ye he just stops xD

[@larry-333]

1:03:54

[@nidietayt6447]

What does Jack off means?

[@kylesul6433]

42:27 is my favorite lmao

[@lumikera]

I always like how Manly pitches his voice down for men but uses his normal voice for women.

[@Handlelesswithme]

Just goes to show we only see 1% of his power

[@Zekiraeth]

That's just the highest his voice can go.

[@regularly_priced]

Yeah, it often just seems like mocking whenever a guy tries to imitate a woman’s voice by making it sound super high-pitched. This is much better, I think

[@TheApoke]

@@regularly_priced Some guys can do really good girl voices, but yeah most sound like Mickey Mouse or Alvin and the Chimpmunks lol

[@Kinglovinstone]

"Jeez ashley, is your voice ok?" " *what do you mean?* "

[@walnut_raisin2621]

I do appreciate them showing that siblings can be toxic and manipulative with each other. It's not a dynamic explored often

[@nathminegirl2933]

True

[@wolfygaming7222]

I can speak from experience in having a toxic "dynamic" with a sibling -- an abusive one.

[@walnut_raisin2621]

@@wolfygaming7222 me too

[@Wolfy-9999]

@@wolfygaming7222 Hello Wolfy I am also Wolfy

[@backtoyougo]

I know ima get heat for this, but if I had a sister like Ashley, she’s getting the Omni-man beat down from the WOMB

[@bscorvin]

Everyone in the comments saying “they’re acting so Weird” like being locked in a grand total of 4 rooms for actual literal months and then starved would not have you seeing the hat man in five days

[@giovannajooj]

honestly id be seeing the hat man in one at worst,these two are surprisingly “sane”

[@error8119]

@@giovannajooj Nah fr. They already had some screws loose BEFORE this, they came out surprisingly sane from how I expected this to devolve😂

[@stripeussy5690]

THE WHO

[@bscorvin]

@@stripeussy5690 the HAT MAN,

[@CosmosCat]

Also doesn’t help that their parents abandoned them to starve and have their organs harvested the first chance they got.

[@anarchicpancake2840]

the real villain was child neglect and workplace corruption all along

[@AlizerLeHaxor]

what if the real villain was the friends we made along the way

[@Mgaming61]

Welcome to real life, my friend. Well somewhat at least

[@waterandcereal]

🍉

[@richardashendale922]

True. The parents and government were the ones really to blame. Can't be reasonably argued otherwise.

[@nidietayt6447]

​@@AlizerLeHaxorI think the Real villain order in all that is: 1-The governement that set this situation in place, willingly allowing starvation to happen by oppression which is a crime. 2-The mother that isn't useful at all and isn't assuming her role. 3- The 2 kids

[@KeitieKalopsia]

Them getting barricaded in their apartment with a single wooden board is so reminiscent of them locking the childhood friend into the box with a single wooden stick. It’s like karma came back around for them years later.

[@felikatze]

it's really interesting how andrew never raises any *moral* objections to whatever ashley suggests? like, yeah, he could've just knocked the warden out instead of killing the guy, and his first objection to cannibalism is "we'll get arrested later." even in the flashback, it's "what if someone finds out." he's generally more afraid of being caught and punished rather than actually having morals. it raises.. questions... about how the two were raised.

[@beagrothus7916]

It Raises questions about the goverment.

[@KazehareRaiden]

And I mean he did almost kill his sister

[@tatocezar1]

@@KazehareRaiden he was justified in almost killing her.

[@JS-rv3et]

​@@tatocezar1 she liked it

[@Runnow642]

Yeah I was thinking But I like to think that he really had moral objections in his mind, I’d say his caution and plan for what happens afterward is necessary, even when he was a kid he had no objections but he clearly learns from mistake and maybe a better person, I like to think that he just doesn’t react when he feels any guilt or rather there is no time for guilt, he knows he did something wrong but there’s nothing he can do about it and now he have another problem in his hands, he knows he have to live with his sister even when she said she didn’t care about their first murder, he probably knew that was wrong but there’s nothing he can do or else he will live alone, I like the details the creator put in, they put in the sleeping pills part to show that the cold Andrew doesn’t need Ashley for anything and Ashley admits that, he really have no one else So maybe Andrew had objections but knew it’s pointless to point them out

[@sadlysolo6696]

Despite how toxic this relationship is, this was written so well, I genuinely felt an attachment to these two characters. That was some top tier writing. I just finished playing a game where the characters are just tropes vomiting more tropes at each other, so these two feel refreshingly real and three dimensional. Bravo. I hope there is a sequel to this, I would love to see it.

[@esplice4285]

y’all need to go outside

[@butteredcrumpits8434]

It feels like a real sibling relationship only toned up 10000 times.

[@thecandyman7807]

@@esplice4285 y​​⁠ou need to shut the truck up, but I’m sure that’s beyond your attention span.

[@FactsOverFeelingsLoser]

​@@esplice4285You too

[@Verile]

Was thinking the same the whole way through. What could have easily been cringeworthy was instead well written banter that felt organic for the characters given their situation and personalities. It's not often you see a needy sociopath written as a human with reason; insane reasons but reason all the same.

[@yuuvune]

46:55 "What are you going to do? Lick it clean?? Get the Mop you dumb bastard." That left field text made me laugh way harder than I expected lol

[@error8119]

i was DYING😂

[@lapetus7695]

I love how they are aggressive and angry when telling you what you’re doing wrong

[@error8119]

@@lapetus7695 they called me a dumbass😭 it was unexpected

[@lapetus7695]

@@error8119 oml 😭

[@gayternatee]

i fell off my chair lmfao

[@frankfrankerson782]

>ashley does something profoundly immoral and revealing >then she makes this face :3 It's ok guys, it's not her fault.

[@qoph1988]

This is how it works irl as well.. so be on that

[@foxdancemedia]

ah eto, bleh

[@gamerraider889]

​@@qoph1988true

[@epicidex1006]

I can fix her

[@Wertyber]

bruh

[@RyomouShimei]

At first their relationship seemed funny in a dark way, given the huge amounts of dark humor they threw at each other, but it began to be painful and mean-spirited how Ashley kept only thinking about herself and clearly took no care of Andrew's breakup, then being very eager to eat a dead guy. But what crossed the line was basically leaving a girl to die because her brother thought she was pretty and she couldn't fathom him prefering a girl over his sister. I honestly wouldn't have blamed Andrew if he choked his sister but their relationship was so messy and toxic he couldn't break free.

[@ashlirabid9614]

I agree with all you wrote.

[@claragemheart581]

Ladies and gentlemen, this comment right here.

[@sassymcsassy2953]

Literally summed up yandere

[@ashlirabid9614]

@@sassymcsassy2953 Yandere sibling

[@mischech]

Yeah Ashley has the upper hand, she got Andrew in checkmate

[@Niltenstein]

I‘m just in love with the faces and facial expressions, they have something that looks so good, whoever designed and drew the characters did a fantastic job

[@ardacollik6028]

Im agree so hard

[@gavinroisland3541]

I’d really like to learn to copy this style

[@NikokiN4]

I love the design of leyley

[@astrangefool8221]

@@NikokiN4 🤨

[@JJ-qk3hn]

Andrew is HOT

[@sonnyboi1297]

So in short: Emotionally numbed tactical brother Sociopathic possessive sister Death count of 4 Brother got 2 kills Sister got 1 assist Cannibalism and Demonic rituals ensue. This was depressing and creepy to watch at 2 am. Luckily it had a slightly feel good ending.

[@Supernir]

Tbh I say she had 2 assists

[@AemonJack]

@@Supernir fair, 302 and the warden

[@marcierex4547]

@@AemonJack i wouldnt say 302 or but yes the warden the 1st one was the girl she made him suffocate

[@_im_stupid_]

There is a continuation of the game in development if not wrong which will feature multiple endings so it's something to look forward to

[@nyanya2757]

they both got 2 kills and 1 assist actually. edit: there were 5 kills. 1 was a long time ago, and 1 wasn't their kill. Plus possible unseen assist kills by the sister.

[@namelessnavnls8060]

It's interesting how Andrew keeps the balcony key. Cuz he doesn't want Ashley to jump off and leave him there to rot by himself, which becomes more and more obvious as time goes on in this game.

[@derbylied9553]

She wouldn’t do that anyways she still has firm bonding with Andrew even has firm feelings for him and keeps most of that hidden held on in her head and in her dreams even though she is often sometimes overt about it so far shown yet he is similar with her even though he is not as overt with it even when she speaks with the demon (sometimes Andrew does too) that she could have chosen to betray him as she was dialoguing with the demon in her dreams even mention that to be proven so yet she hasn’t and possibly won’t he needs her as much as she needs him too I wonder if Julia have reincarnated or morphed into a demon or spirit of vengeance that took the disguise of a Demon or some corrupted spirit seeking vengeance against both of them yet I reckon Julia is not the only one either Also there is possibly a theory that Andy and Leyley have died and became Andrew and Ashley perhaps resurrected by their parents that have met with the same demons themselves before them however that is a theory it is claimed that the reason their death have been faked is to gain insurance for the house even though the parents mostly the mother have been treating them as lesser importance The Demon is the one that is deluding them into separating and weakening their bond and trust into killing each other or singularly one of them will get killed and caught in jeopardy however that can all be avoided if they come to the conclusions that the Demons are the ones messing and endangering them even avoid weakening and losing their trusts and bondage that they should be in it together as a team as family should be and survive through it all I have a suspicion that they do end up with each other either ways knowing that they are basically the only main characters and how far it will all go on how they are with each other and around each other the fact that she nearly questioned about if she were to get pregnant or to have a baby before being cut off before entirely got to that part yet including the characters knew what the question was going to be it could possibly be foreshadowing something else they will eventually do at some point much later on perhaps not the next chapter yet will eventually occur at one of the sequels chapters.

[@derbylied9553]

They have their ups and downs.

[@joshuagraham1800]

​@@derbylied9553when you're at the point where you have this much fan theory why don't you just write a book?

[@derbylied9553]

@@joshuagraham1800 Seems plausible however Julia is still alive while Nina is the one that have died so that is more possible.

[@joshuagraham1800]

@@derbylied9553 yeah man

[@WireWiiHere]

"Should you still feel feel urged to help, the staff will be administering bullets directly into your brain as a thank you." That's honestly my favorite oart.

[@WireWiiHere]

*Part.

[@WitherRage]

that wasn't my favorite part (I don't have one) but I did notice and it was hilarious

[@spaghetto9836]

​@@WitherRage "I don't have one" PLEASE 💀- But yeah, that was pretty cool of the administration to say lol.

[@WitherRage]

@@spaghetto9836 how was me saying that funny tho 💀

[@spaghetto9836]

@@WitherRage It can read as you not liking the game 😂.

[@opheliamunroe1110]

This was actually super well written omg For not being a very long or complicated game they really got in a ton of narrative and relationship building and character development. The characters were likeable even if they weren't likeable as people. What an engaging and horrifyingly toxic romp!

[@gavadava6655]

“Likeable”…

[@opheliamunroe1110]

@@gavadava6655 As characters. Not as people. It was engaging to watch them interact and get to know them. But I under no circumstances would ever want or like people who act like this in real life. They both suck and have some disturbing predilections. So they aren't likeable as people. It's the same idea as why people "like" Rick Sanchez and Dr. House. They feel fleshed out and real rather than a simple list of popular tropes. Ashely has some sort of....brocon thing going on but she has other traits outside of that. And Andrew while being her foil has some pretty important character development happen in a really short amount of time and you can literally feel how fed up he's getting with her even before the end. So yeah. Not enjoyable or good people. But well written and engaging characters. There are lots of stereotypically "good" characters who aren't likeable because they're flat, boring and evoke zero emotional response to their plights. These two don't do that and even though I wouldn't say I was rooting for them I WAS really interested in where the story was going even though it just follows these two jerks.

[@crispy7499]

It's like watching a well polished car crash with a story attached. Ashley's a fun character but also unhinged and Andrew is an enabler, they fit perfectly to make a fucked up duo of compelling characters

[@Lechgang]

@@gavadava6655 Likeable in the same way you'd like the characters from Breaking Bad. Horrible, awful people in real life, but engaging and exciting characters to watch.

[@sweetricecakeman8582]

I would NOT tolerate that creature Andy calls his sister.

[@RanMouri82]

Love how the siblings seem natural at the start, and we assume the only crazy thing is the quarantine situation, but then when the plot thickens, **boy** does it thicken!

[@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272]

Ong😩😩😩

[@puppymaroon964]

Tell me about it.

[@desuretard8654]

They look a little too close to be siblings.

[@puppymaroon964]

@@desuretard8654 Yeah, they act more like a couple than brother and sister.

[@chaosplank210]

@@puppymaroon964🥹wow really

[@thatguy8711]

This is probably the most realistic depiction of a toxic relationship. Andrew can't stand up for himself most times, while Ashley is a full on manipulative socipath who doesn't know how to deal with her own emotions.

[@theharkerspyware]

they're siblings to top it off

[@thatguy8711]

@@theharkerspyware Toxic relationshops aren't specifically romantic. Friendships can also turn very toxic. I had a mutually toxic relationship with someone who I though was one of my only friends. Luckily, I distanced myself, but I could and should have handled the distancing better if I wasn't so emotional. I probably hurt them real bad, but decisions were made and I regret nothing.

[@wicked_awesome]

I blame the kids being messed up on the parents treating them wrong (AND that literally ditched them.) Theory: Mother sold Ashley and Andrew to the government in exchange for a cozy new apartment. She sold them as two bags of organs.

[@Ebony-7_]

theory might be right. and now gov will chase the mother cause she gave them two kids who literally summoned a demon. 😂

[@therealchaosguy]

@@Ebony-7_one who summoned a demon, one who… Is really easy to manipulate, he’ll make a great addition to the government

[@MissSweetie]

oh yeah sounds about right, that mother sounds like a POS

[@Ebony-7_]

@@therealchaosguy ye, i guess so but if they managed to even get them back

[@tangkwathetroublemakergirl555]

that moment when andrew telling ashley how romantic it’d be to jump off a balcony together it the moment i realized"no one is sane in this"

[@northernalpine4350]

Well, the brother is just ever so slightly more sane

[@salgone]

hell no bro id go crazy with a sibling like this too

[@thebigghettostarenabledmet9972]

@@salgone HUH 💀💀💀💀

[@salgone]

@@thebigghettostarenabledmet9972 WHAT IS U TALKING ABOUT

[@thebigghettostarenabledmet9972]

@@salgone NA, WHAT ARE *YOU* TALKING ABOUT

[@TheWretchedOwl]

Fun fact: if you’re starving and decide to resort to cannibalism it won’t do you much good to eat somebody who was also starving themselves. It’s not the lack of calories that really kill you, it’s the lack of vital nutrients, and someone who was also starving also lacks the nutrition to keep you going alive.

[@mylivestyle2346]

Thing is, only ABs didn't get to eat, others did.

[@sparky-xz1nb]

yeah but its either that or air. starving or not its still has more nutrition than air.

[@cursetheroad]

Nope. Meat is meat. As a whole organism, which is a human for the matter, when they are lacking nutrients from starvation, they may not function well as a person. But their meat are still fine nutritionally as at cellular level, they still have the proteins, lipids, and consequently, the calories too, for another human to survive off of.

[@Kajnake]

"Oh no! I might get my daily reccomended amount of protein and fats, but what will I do without my vitamin c!? A week of this and I might develop scurvy!!"

[@Gamesaucer]

@@cursetheroad If they're lacking nutrients from starvation, it means that those nutrients they're lacking are not in their body. Therefore, you cannot absorb those nutrients by eating them. Now, they'll certainly have calories. But if all you get are calories, you'll get malnutrition really quickly. There are lots of vitamins that are essential for human survival, and if the person you're eating has already burned through their entire supply of it, you won't get any either.

[@lieutenantbites5739]

"No one ever died to some dust" Asbestos:

[@ikagura]

Cesium 137.

[@missseaweed2462]

Airborne flour particles!

[@Bingobongo45]

radioactive fallout.

[@andistansbury4366]

Madam Curie

[@daisy-gv5fr]

anthrax!!

[@DepressedWendigo]

Don't you just hate it when your sister decides to eat the neighbor?

[@血みどろなジャム]

No. Neighbor is too loud.

[@kingmuddy5898]

I remember when my sister used to do that back in the days

[@Epsilon-18]

Can't relate, only have brothers. Our solution was to blow shit up. Arson > Cannibalism

[@человекспрятанный]

Nah no neighbor mean i can play my guitar freely

[@JustthesameJn]

Bruh happens everytime, its so annoying I have to warn every new neighbor I have

[@mysterymastermind175]

It seems Leyley needs constant validation. Rife with insecurities and neediness while being completely inconsiderate about those around her. Despite her destructive tendancies, Andrew is emotionally dependent on her due to the things they've been through, no one else would understand him, and so instead of ending things with leyley and finding a more positive bond, he stays with what is familiar and tolerates her.

[@humvee2800]

Its hard to say. Leyley likely has multiple things going wrong with her. I would guess psychopathic and bipolar. Although the differences between them may be more subtle than let on. Andrew also doesnt seem to have much in terms of ethics. People come in and out of his life and he doesnt care . He doesnt feel "bad" for the things they do together and is always more concerned with repercussions and no ethical guilt. This is doubled down upon in episode 2 when you see that even when his girlfriend left or after they kill their parents, He still feels nothing about these things.

[@firsttimehuh1266]

⁠@@humvee2800Andrews issues all stem from his spinelessness and him being easily manipulated and led by women. His dad is the same. I think his apathy is a response to the terrible shit that keeps happening and not because he’s a sociopath. (especially considering he enables these things to happen). He is the only redeemable character in this story. The only reason I’m interested in this game is because I hope Andrew takes control and fixes his life.

[@humvee2800]

@@firsttimehuh1266 “he’s spineless”. He hacked someone to death without a thought to save his sister without being asked His dad does and says almost nothing. Even in episode 2 Ashley repeatedly notices Andrew is rapidly changing

[@zettovii1367]

​@@humvee2800 Andrew has a spine as far as it comes to backing his sister... But against her, he is quick to forgive everything she does and is willing to do whatever she says with only mild objections. The dude is fearful of repricushions.... But he either doesnt have much morals to actually oppose his sister's fucked up side, or is too weak willled to oppose Ashley's manipulation. Honestly dont think they are irredeemable outright, but they are bad influence to each other. Ashley cause she is dangerously manipulative, and Andrew cause he is an enabler.

[@youtubealt243]

@@zettovii1367Andrew isn’t spineless he’s just been raised to obey Ashley from a young age. His nuturing from Ashley overwhelms his otherwise brave nature.

[@KirkCobaine7002]

The way ashley is acting is actually so well written, like she‘s so manipulative

[@Gencinnamon245]

She’s so manipulative that you can’t even tell if she actually cares about Andrew or if she actually manipulates him for her own gain

[@LaceworkDreams]

She is so well written that it pisses me off

[@KirkCobaine7002]

@@LaceworkDreams FRR

[@helen5272]

I don't know about you, but I kinda hate her. Really well written.

[@KirkCobaine7002]

@@helen5272 i can‘t stand her as well but i hold a shit ton of respect for the writing ngl

[@giubilooo44]

I feel bad for the girl that got stuck in the crate she had to run out of air and had to wait for her slow death sitting there for hours

[@qoph1988]

Yeah that one was dark

[@AGuy-vq9qp]

She didn’t run out of air, she had an asthma attack and choked.

[@giubilooo44]

@@AGuy-vq9qp Oh, sorry.

[@Waggabagaboo]

Very recently a grown man suffocated in a suitcase his wife refused to open. She didn’t think he’d die so fast.

[@hereniho]

​@@WaggabagabooI like how it's "she didn't think he'd die so fast", and not "she didn't think he'd die".

[@willsith9762]

What a delightful story about some absolutely terrible people. I appreciate that they don't pretend this is a healthy relationship, and fully acknowledge that they're constantly manipulating and gaslighting each other, but they still manage to have a fun dynamic.

[@NaThingSerious]

I don’t think the brother does much gaslighting or manipulating… he very much seems to be more the victim, he seems like a dependable older brother but often submits to his sister and her wishes, we see this as early as when she convinced him to eat the tomatoes now instead of saving them. She then continues to gaslight and manipulate him, convincing him to break int their neighbours apartment, then convincing him to partake in the cannibalism, gaslighting him into thinking it was his own idea and she did nothing wrong. Throughout the whole game she justifies all her actions by saying “I technically haven’t done anything, I made YOU do it, I’m innocent, you’re the bad guy” and then it’s also shown she is extremely… clingy? She doesn’t let him be in any relationship and at even the thought he may have liked another woman, she immediately starts manipulating him saying stuff like “you really must hate me, choosing a random woman over me, I should just kill myself now then”. While in the whole game I don’t think we see the brother manipulating her at all.

[@blacksanta6108]

Damn, my sibling love is a little off but not that off

[@freshbread4039]

can you give some examples of Andrew manipulating Ashley? I couldn't think of any

[@randomairbreathingman8927]

I mean, im not saying that the brother is a good person, considering the fact that he was convinced rather easily to leave somebody innocent in a small box for entire night, and he is fully capable of killing people if it means that he will avoid consequences, which honestly doesnt make him much better than his sister, but gaslighting isn't something i would accuse him for. He lacks moral backbone, that's for sure, somebody telling you to do something bad doesnt excuse you from doing it, but he doesnt weaponise psychology for the most part.

[@randomairbreathingman8927]

​@@NaThingSerious technicaly, he uses interrogation tactics to learn if she lied to his girlfriend in some way, which is a form of manipulation, but thats about it, and there definitely was no gaslighting.

[@isvuswright4882]

The thing that fascinates me the most about manipulative people is how natural it is for them. There's no Manipulating 101 class, no manipulators' society, no trade union, but some people I've met could shape the right person like a kid with play-dough. It's an extraordinarily subjective, intricate process but some people can do it as though they have a manual. I have to wonder if it really does make some kind of sense to them. Could they explain it if they tried?

[@lirenxin5472]

I think some people are born with the skills of manipulation. I mean when I look back on my life I am a very turbulent person and I don’t usually behave manipulatively and am usually over-sensitive to what others say about me, but when I grew older and I am closer with my mom, I would exactly behave like my dad, who would just naturally dismiss her and order her to do things… it just seems like all the time I didn’t spent with my dad just got repaid with genetics 😂 And I don’t realize I was manipulating her until she told me again and again it was, and it was pretty extraordinary to find out for myself that I am desensitized to my mom when I say something hurtful and not to everyone else 😂 so honestly I think it is a very natural and subconscious thing

[@rebeccahaas2655]

Thats something I'd like to know to!

[@33pandagamer]

I think it's something they don't have to think about, they just do it. Though I think they may have subconsciously learned it through observation and a bit of trial and error.

[@kaizosheenobu6099]

it takes someone that is vulnerable and easily guilty and even you can make them completely yours. you know how to understand social cues and emotional cues, probably. with the right action you can get them to answer exactly the way you want. if you learn the mental patterns of someone you can easily do whatever you want to them. it's on you to use that for good and not bad.. but some people can't help themselves and they go ahead and do it anyways. observe how people talk and how they interact with X and Y, see what they like, what they don't like... also, if you notice, all manipulative people are nice upfront. they're the sweetest and most caring people. they make you open up to them so they have more things to pull your strings with. she knows how to rile him up and calm him down to put him right where she wants, because she knows exactly how to talk to him to get him to do things. it's toxic and disgusting. don't use it for harm. instead, use it to reinforce positive behaviors on people. as weird as it sounds. :)

[@quartzmerlin]

The more you study people, the easier it gets. It gets to be like breathing after a while. A lot of it is gamifying social interactions. If you don't treat it like a game, it's much harder.

[@salgone]

"get the mop you dumb bastard" was my favorite line in this game. despite the murder manipulation and cannibalism this is a really good depiction of sibling relationships and the jokes were silly

[@Zenyx64]

It's interesting, since, because the game is from Ashley's POV and the "narration" is her thoughts (referring to herself in the second person), you occassionally get a taste of the mind of a damn near sociopath, a corrupted person sprouted from what was likely years of emotional neglect from her parents, when she thinks or comments on something. "What are you gonna do, lick it clean? Get the mop you dumb bastard." sticks out to me for that reason. That she treats herself like garbage in her own mind, but doesn't think of it as a biggie. In a sense, many would indeed call her insane. Emotionally unstable, with no construct of morals, and clinging desperately yet manipulatively to the attention of her brother, the only person she has left. God this game just captivated me so thoroughly.

[@salgone]

@@Zenyx64 bro skips the L in the alphabet this actually makes sense

[@raerohan4241]

@@Zenyx64 Had similar thoughts, but more along the lines of "maybe her mom used to talk to her like that". I mean, from the little dialogue we've had from her, she completely dismissed Ashley's words that they were starving. Now, it's possible that Ashley had a history of lying. But considering the first _scene_ we had was her abandoning her kids with no concern at all, I'd say it is much more likely she was (at minimum) verbally abusive to her kids.

[@Kingsbeak]

My favorite part is when the flashback didn't show how Ashley is so fucked up, and instead just shows her being fucked up to begin with

[@notaperson7986]

Bro I love the art style of this game so much, and along with Manly playing it for an hour, 16 minutes, and 7 seconds, lets go.

[@cb12t1]

And it is very edgy.

[@Unifoseum]

@@cb12t1 No really? What gave it away?

[@Kyumifun]

​@@cb12t1 it makes for a perfect edgy sunday!

[@NickenChugget]

I didn't relize it was an hour long until i read this comment

[@Riftio617]

@@cb12t1 incest lore

[@Solinaru]

It's so nice to see a brother and sister RPG that doesn't end up with enemies to lovers

[@Solinaru]

WELP, NEVERMIND 😂

[@comfehhh]

THEYRE SIBLINGS ITS GETTING WEIRD

[@wholestick5986]

wait thats a common occurence?

[@chocodoll5483]

The progression of this thread is hilarious

[@Qracklings]

I really wished it didn't go that way but damn it ashley

[@bigbrainenergyguy]

I get that Ashley is a fun character and all, but when it comes to the toxic aspects of their relationship people need to stop acting like Andrew is just as bad. It was her idea to eat the neighbor (22:55) but she gaslights him into believing he brought it up first (23:18)(39:06). Throughout the game she lies to him, emotionally manipulates him, and even belittles him when his girlfriend breaks up with him. The most he does in return is... be rude when she antagonizes him. That is, of course, up until the end when he briefly snaps, but setting that aside it's important to understand that this isn't an equally toxic relationship on both ends. She uses all the same tactics as an abuser trying to keep her victim from leaving and if you don't pick up on it then you're probably vulnerable to that sort of thing yourself.

[@venusroses]

Real she gets me so angry sometimes

[@lirenxin5472]

Yes, Andrew honestly has a responsibility as a brother to tell his sister it’s wrong when they are small, but I guess he is just a pushover and only until he is an adult that he starts to act more assertive of his choices

[@Vinnyc11]

⁠@@lirenxin5472 Look, ur not wrong, I’m not disagreeing with you, but this mf gripped her neck and was ready to watch her slowly die by his own hands, “starts to act more assertive” is a liiiiitle bit of an understatement. I mean we don’t know if he actually would’ve followed through with it, but still.

[@turntechgodhead1975]

​@@Vinnyc11 She literally ruined his life, I think he has the right dude. She isolated and abused him his entire life. I think murder is wrong and all but like. You can't act like he didn't have good reason. She doesn't care about anybody. She doesn't care about the lives she stole, so why should we care about hers?

[@Vinnyc11]

@@turntechgodhead1975 No, I completely agree, it’s just the way they worded that moment. “Starts to act more aggressive is a crazy understatement”.

[@cyrene03]

the art is so cute!! Ashley being a "western yandere" as you put it was so on point

[@S-0-0-P]

“Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me princess” I CAN’T WITH THAT REFERENCE I BURSTED OUT LAUGHING

[@twig6102]

broo same

[@W47ED]

Same

[@diobrando6382]

I don't get it.

[@danguy6591]

​@@diobrando6382oh boy, smooching time

[@juriansan019]

​@@diobrando6382it was from The Legend of Zelda cartoon where Link goes "Well excuse me, princess". It was also popularise by TerminalMontage

[@sunnyd9321]

My first girlfriend was exactly like Ashley. Extremely manipulative, extremely verbally abusive, borderline. She found the perfect person in me who would take her abuse for three straight years while I slowly devolved socially into a drone purely roped up in her affairs with hardly a semblance of independence. I would've done anything for her and endured everything without so much as fighting back because I truly internalized all of the things she said about me. 8 years later and I still am coming around from it. And yet, I strangely miss her? My mind occasionally comes back to thoughts of her. I found Ashley to be ... Oddly reminiscent of that and paradoxical. She's both attractive and horrifying. I found myself wanting to be in that position and simultaneously hating it.

[@DevoDude]

seems... somewhat similar to stockholm syndrome, surprisingly. I would comment more, but I can't think of much to say. Hope you get over this longing, eventually.

[@malearixterren3356]

Now, I'm not qualified to give professional advice. But that sort of thinking is natural in these kinds of relationships, as the person becomes your only safe place. You feel you need them for emotional support and they're the only answer. This is not to say it's healthy to think that way, simply that it's natural. The best thing to do is acknowledge it happened, and that it was something bad, grieve the relationship and find closure, then do your best to move on. Don't pretend it never happened, and don't bury your feelings. It won't help it go away. Sorry if you've heard all this before. Just trying to help.

[@sunnyd9321]

@Malearix terren That was more thought out of a reply than I expected from an internet stranger, thank you. Doesn't alleviate the fact I feel pathetic, but it's something.

[@marcierex4547]

@@sunnyd9321 your lucky she aint kidnap you btw after all I read of what you said

[@sunnyd9321]

@@marcierex4547 I didn’t have the guts to formerly break up with her cause I was afraid of her, so I moved away and deleted all my social media and anything she formerly had contact with.

[@Okeana_Aster]

When Andrew said Ashley needs to get her head checked, I thought he was just being a sassy brother like he was being earlier in the game, but after watching a bit more, it does seems like she has some problems.

[@tatocezar1]

It was clear what he meant when said that, she is unbothered about killing and eating someone.

[@Okeana_Aster]

@@tatocezar1 Well they were gonna die of starvation. She could have been hiding her doubts because they had no other choice. But nope she wasn't.

[@error8119]

@@Okeana_Aster We’re inside her head😭 she was unbothered. Even when waking up from usually traumatic dreams, like her killing someone for example, she’s more worried about “where’s Andy” than the “nightmare”. She psychotic.

[@julescharles1032]

You didn't notice the red flags at the beginning? My god it must be so pleasantly easy to manipulate you

[@Okeana_Aster]

@@julescharles1032 It was late and I was tired, okay ?

[@spoookyscarlet]

The dialogue between the two is so well written you are able to grasp their personalities and relationship without it being spelled out

[@hitmonchan9607]

The energy of this art style and their Sibling Behavior reads as being made by someone with a hidden twitter account that contains some truly damning content.

[@SU1_cidalDadbro]

That's... weirdly specific and accurate

[@JohnZombi88]

Truly men of culture then

[@Evalora]

hidden? ran facefirst into someone's diaper shenanigans looking into someone who also had a 201X era punky deviantart style (if less refined), there isn't much shame these days

[@Milk-ck1wv]

​@@JohnZombi88ew

[@KitKat-zx5cy]

I was thinking this lol

[@gooddoggo2831]

I think in 27:20 explains this character dynamics pretty well. Ashley is the leader in the situation and doesn’t hesitate to do anything even if it’s wrong and she forces her brother to do the same. I feel like Ashley forcing him to eat human flesh is both her way of caring for him and also a way to feel less guilty about her own actions.

[@namvo3013]

Ashley is the brain and Andrew is the brawl. Getting on her brother's nerve is what all little sis does to her big bro.

[@yippeeflowers]

​@@namvo3013brawn, not brawl.

[@NSD150]

​@@yippeeflowerslol

[@hubertjuansanyoto3482]

I love the art style of the game, really gives the cute but creepy horror game vibe. Andrew and Ashley's dialogue together was also kinda funny.

[@Asheeplol]

Hey i just gonna remind that rule 34 artist draw at the speed of light the moment they saw the siblings and right now there are results on the web Truly a sweet home Alabama moment

[@ray_is_a_menace]

Something that I think is a great detail for the characters is that Andrew puts his fist over his mouth and genuinely looks he's mulling something over while Ashley just looks away and has her hand more spread out. It's a small thing, but I feel like it communicates their differences and their personalities. Andrew feels the full weight of things, Ashley is more carefree and thinking more about convenience.

[@eg_manifest510]

I swear, these horror games never usually scare me but when they locked that girl in the box my heart began racing ten million miles a minute. That's the only thing in a game that can legit scare me

[@lindyloohoo]

Having asthma myself, i HEARD those coughs. WHEEZZE

[@shiraoriii]

​@@lindyloohooshaking my head

[@MermaidMakes]

It’s heartbreaking. There are several real life murders performed by children, and it’s always heartbreaking. So definitely, this is easily something that could happen in real life. The scariest things in horror are those we could possibly encounter in our day to day lives, imo

[@bigclitenergy]

i thought i was the only one! that one scene scared the hell out of me and my asthmatic ass lmaoo

[@cupcakedoce956]

I guess I never hated a game characters than I hate Ashley.

[@sweethearth-d9349]

this is few of the times that i've been really invested into a dynamic in horror, especially a sibling dynamic. this is one of the rare times you see a well written toxic dynamic between siblings, and it's good to see that its not just for the sake of making incest and toxic dynamics "romantic" but for the sake of portraying toxicity among two people who are victims of their environments... and to portray that one of the siblings is also a victim (and enabler) to the sibling that became the one who gets the power more often. the manipulation, the codependency, the pattern of fighting-affection-fighting, and well.. their whole dynamic in general, is a gross one to see and most of all, tragic. there's clear complexity in this horror game and not going to lie, the toxic but good written dynamic was not what i was expecting when i clicked on this video but it's a dynamic with depth that was interesting. it's slightly annoying that few of the comments boil down this game to be a "romantic incest game" when it's so much more than that (plus i feel like that's an misinterpretation since there isn't incest in this game, and the dynamic isn't portrayed as romantic or normal anyway). there are "affectionate" moments, but the affection moments aren't even "strictly for romantic relationships" enough to call it an immediate sign of incest... plenty of siblings can be affectionate without romance. and of course there is ashley's jealously over women that are considered prettier than her, women that andrew's into and women that are his girlfriends... but this can be simply explained by ashley heavily depending on andrew's attention and presence because she mostly *has* andrew's attention, as their mother is pretty neglectful. and of course as shown by ashley's manipulative nature, she mostly expresses this jealously as a way to manipulate him (and of course cuts women out of his life in order to have control of him and attention from him). but anyway yeah, this game was really interesting to see and if there will be ever a sequel, i'll be hella invested.

[@SkySquad]

Holy shit thank you!!!!! Im so tired of people pointing at people being affectionate and always make it be romantic or sexual. Theres other kinds of love!!!!! And yes its amazing how well this was written. It was still fun to watch because their characters are written well and the banter is humorous, but you can very clearly see its toxic and harmful and its not justified at all. I think their relationship is scarrier than the actual horror scenario theyre in I was really rooting for andrew to actually kill her at some point...but i knew he wouldnt. Ashley knows how to manipulate him and even she knew deep down that he wouldnt but laid on the sweet talk thick on that moment...

[@martn48]

Cant remember the last time I was so engaged by one of these playthroughs. Felt anxious throughout the whole thing, especially when the siblings fought. The writing had some edgy parts, but it worked pretty well imo, they knew how to blend it with humour. Also the toxicity of their relationship was something something else. I actually got mad at Ashley a couple of times lmao (Andy aint no saint either) And as you said, its not a romantic relationship (probably...), but its easy to think of it as one bc of the "cute anime" style and all the cliches from the genre. Would love a sequel.

[@SpaceAddress]

I ain't readin allat

[@riopark5274]

I felt very uncomfortable while watching this. It is a very good game, with a great artstyle and very interesting characters, but the manipulation and toxic relationship between Andrew and Ashley made me feel kind of sick. As someone who is not very emotional, it really surprised me how much seeing Andrew putting his hands around Ashleys neck bothered me. cool stuff.

[@user-lj9we2rf1n]

agreed

[@Moonlight.Howlings.666]

Wow. That was a rollercoaster ride of toxic codependentsy, demon summoning, and cannibalism. There's just one thing in the story that felt unanswered: what was the point of the quarantine? They say it's some sort of parasite, but there was no effort put into ridding the parasite from the infected. There's also the grading system that dictates how you're treated.

[@liger04]

It seems to be a hoax to convert apartments and everyone inside into organ storage/harvesting operations. The nurse's "blood work" was literally just a normal checkup where they confirm blood type and make sure you don't have bloodborne illnesses under the guise of looking for a nonexistent "parasite". The wardens are supposed to distribute just enough food to keep everyone alive, then when organs of a particular blood type are needed they can simply "report a suicide". Proactively. Now there's fresh organs for use or sale. People with blood type AB are called "universal receivers" because they can receive blood transfusions (or organ transplants containing blood) from any other blood type (though in reality it's a little more complicated since AB can be split into AB+ and AB- which are incompatible with each other). However, the antibodies in the blood will cause life-threatening complications in anyone that's not the exact same type as them. Since type AB is pretty rare, that makes them relatively unsellable. The guards tried to make their job easier by starving out these unsellable ones. Unfortunately for the guards, Andrew and Ashley seem to be type-AB as well as capable of murder when pressured. (KZbin is saying my comment didn't post, but it's also saying there's a new reply and won't show me what it is. I'll give it another shot since this I spent way too much time writing this)

[@44theshadow49]

The grading system looked like blood types. O A, AB, etc. I don't think there actually was an outbreak. But why they were locked in, idk. There are real summonable demons in this world so who knows what's what

[@FerisSalvo]

Those "Grades" were blood types, which is why AB blood types were treated poorly compared to the rest, since AB blood can only be transfused into other AB blood type patients, unlike A/B/O, who can all transfuse into their respective blood types + AB, with O being able to transfuse their blood to all blood types. I'm sure it's more complex in lore than that, however I'm not a doctor or a theorist by any stretch of the imagination, so you'll have to figure that bit out yourself. 👍

[@MortimerSCrane]

Those were blood types, they were harvesting organs.

[@lordofnaps]

The "grading system" was blood type, the "water company" used contaminated water as a cover to quarantine people to harvest their organs, if this were a real quarantine the mothers "I only drank orange juice" wouldn't have flown. There was no effort cause there was no parasite they stopped feeding people based on how commonly applicable their blood type was as that kinda matters for organ transplants.

[@NerdOracle]

Andrew may have done some objectively bad things, but he never wanted to. He was always pressured and manipulated into whatever Ashley demands. She intentionally abuses him. She knows he won’t retaliate. She feels entitled to him. Andrew is trapped in a hellish reality of wanting to do right and be good, or normal, but never offered a chance. When he finally takes the initiative to do bad things, he is repulsed by himself. He tries to spit out the Human flesh, he intends to reject demon summoning, he cleans up after himself when he perceives himself in the wrong. He commits to murder to protect his sister, and the man he murdered was aiding an organ trafficking scheme that they were both unfortunate victims of. He tries to go easy on his hostage, he refuses to see women as objects of his lust, he desires romance and intimacy, to be seen and understood. As a boy, he followed his mother’s instruction to defer to his sister’s needs, despite the responsibilities that clearly entailed. He looks ahead, has their better interests at heart, even if he struggles to express it. Ashley uses those childish nicknames to bring Andrew back to the mindset he had as a child, to better dig her talons into him and keep him in line, at her beck and call. She admits to basically miming the stereotypical brother sister dynamic, yet she takes it for granted, clearly not comprehending what it’s meant to be founded on, again, entitlement; with a dash of ignorance. Andrew doesn’t lash out, despite the immense stress his life and present circumstances put him through. And when he finally reaches the height of it, instigating the stranglehold on his cruel un-empathetic sister, he can’t follow through. After just killing yet another person despite himself. The most tragic thing about this is Ashley has enabled him to do these horrible things or accept his ultimate fate with her, but when faced with that reality, rather than continue his violent spree, he recognizes killing Ashley to be wrong, even as she taunts him, and he regresses back to the boy he’s been his entire life. I’d like to think he just can’t cross the line of killing his family. Yet even that would be bittersweet, as she is his defacto greatest abuser, and in denying his cycle of violence which she spurred on, he is doomed to the alternative cycle of being Ashley’s puppet till they die. This story is fucked. Wth

[@bitchywitchy6943]

ngl this is a pretty generous take on Andrew, while yeah Ashely does manipulate him throughout she actually doesn't tell him to do most of the things he chooses to do through the game. He has his own flaws and is almost as sociopathic as her. Yeah the girl in the box was primarily Ashely's fault the cannibalism was both of their decisions. He still went through with it (understandably as they were both starving). both of the murders he commits himself, Ashley never told him to do either and while one of them was to protect her there were better ways he could've gone about it. Both times he CHOSE to murder, instead of just injuring them and ensuring they couldn't move. Neither times did Ashley even have a say. The demon summoning ritual was all his idea in the first place and he continuously gave instructions to Ashley to make it happen. Even at the start he's more concerned with getting caught than he is in the morality of the situation. He has his own autonomy too he is most definitely not a victim

[@NerdOracle]

@@bitchywitchy6943 I would disagree. He certainly doesn’t strike me as a victim through and through, but his very identity informs his decision-making and his “morality”, far as I can tell. it seems clear to me, especially later on, that Andrew never exactly had a chance to be ‘better’. He and Ashley are both victims of a flawed reality that neither can be blamed for getting lost in, but it’s also clear who is really steering their lives at this point, even if Andrew is the one in the literal driver’s seat. I’m fact it’s only after he attempts to symbolically throw Andy away that he has accepted himself and his flaws, regardless of his responsibilities to his past, and tries to change, not necessarily for the best, but going forward. Hell, Andrew was practically willing to starve to death, simply because he believed that things were “in order”, in some capacity. But I admit my perception is probably biased.

[@Aphelia.]

​@@NerdOracleThese are some great takes

[@brycerichardson715]

I have nothing insightful to add cause this covers practically everything but I find it quite amusing that after going into such depth the summery is "this is fucked what the hell" brightened my day a bit weirdly enough

[@Ros2fi0]

Great opinion.

[@aisadal2521]

I gotta say, I really love the artstyle of this game!!! I love how you can get a glimpse of the siblings' personalities, just from their faces and body language in the title screen 🥰

[@dia4200]

Oh a horror-based sister-brother rpg game with a cool artstyle! I sure hope it doesnt get strangely incestious towards the end of the game

[@vaylonkenadell]

Nope! It _starts_ incestuous.

[@imoutoconnoisseur]

any game with siblings but no wincest is automatically a 0/10

[@Krismake]

​@@imoutoconnoisseur 🤡

[@Dr3amW1zard]

@@imoutoconnoisseur name checks out

[@funnyfroggiealert1816]

​@@imoutoconnoisseur hey by any chance, you from Alabama?

[@GameshaiiGG]

This was actually really amazing; the art, the story, the sibling relationship. I do feel kinda bad for Andrew tho.

[@Dice-Z]

Yeah, being Andrew sucks, and i don't mean the wincesty kind. But seriously, the dude is traumatized and i do feel terrible for him, aside from being fictional and all.

[@galaxydragons6244]

idk i feel like Andrew was manipulated to do everything from the start. if there was another part to this i hope he at least gets a happy ending.

[@fabianp.2986]

​@@galaxydragons6244 Not manipulated. He just gives in too easily. He loves his sister (in a non incestuous way)

[@dashzag]

@@fabianp.2986 She's very manipulative! The whole "so like her more than me" or "I'm the worst huh?" or even "you'd love it if I killed myself" that's all manipulation.

[@oceanicGrimalkin]

@@dashzag Yeah. Guilt-tripping someone is a type of manipulation. She constantly paints herself as the victim even during the times that she isn't. She knows Andrew is willing to do desperate measures to have company, even if it's someone as toxic as her. He doesn't exactly have anyone to emotionally connect with and is showing more and more willingness to use direct violence if it meant solving a problem, at least when it's desperate. If this game gets a sequel, I wish Andrew would meet someone who can cut their connection and help him learn to trust the right people. It'll be far from easy, especially in a dystopian setting, but it can be possible, I think.

[@puppymaroon964]

Personally, I think both Andrew and Ashley were born in the wrong place. I believe that they’ve had some troubled upbringing where the siblings, particularly Ashley, didn’t get the love and care they should have had. That’s why Ashley is so spiteful and so possessive of Andrew and why Andrew is such a pushover to her suggestions. They’re the only ones who showed love and affection to each other.

[@ThatOneSwede123]

Correct

[@BrightAGen]

She is literally THE Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss

[@dagoose9570]

Powered by mental issues

[@Rokio_]

Not a girlboss but okay

[@BrightAGen]

@@Rokio_ idk she seems pretty effective at girlbossing her brother around

[@fiaalmahira]

Gaslight Gatekeep but without the Girlboss 💅🏻

[@jeishiikanzaki]

The people defending saying she isn't a girl boss don't seem to realize how a lot of people who consider themselves girlbosses are truly this obnoxious lol

[@Goatman_Gamer]

I love the art style in this game so much. Ashley is so unnervingly cute for some reason.

[@nickbhagatram2482]

she really is

[@doinyamaam3677]

Down bad

[@millicentiwuchukwu9144]

Nope. She tried to eat a human. That's just cannibalism. Do you like cannibals? No. They aren't "cute"

[@estaysgaming6084]

@@millicentiwuchukwu9144 she still cute

[@minorcomet282]

@@millicentiwuchukwu9144 she still cute

[@thenobody7509]

I can't help but feel bad for these two. They were neglected abandoned and left to starve. It's very clear that Ashley has attachment issues but that's in a way understandable her brother raised her and he's the only one she has left. So makes sense why she'll do anything to keep Andrew near her. Meanwhile, Andrew isn't well put together mentally wanting to get away from his sister due to the situation she's put him in. It's sad but a bit understandable.

[@northernalpine4350]

in this hellhole they're locked in, their insanity is clearly justified

[@I_am_somebody_1234]

Its not like they had much of a choice considering even their parents left then

[@thenobody7509]

@@northernalpine4350 mhm 100% they don't really have a choice

[@albertthompson5808]

Yeah, the "Your brother will help you with anything" line makes it clear that the mother never really cared about them even before shit went down.

[@claireclickplsitsurbestfre4593]

*ye*

[@TheAdvertisement]

1:05:50 Ashley: "What's so bad about me?!" ManlyBadassHero: _Prepares the list_

[@abcdefghijkImnopqrstuvwxyz.]

What are you doing here?

[@TheAdvertisement]

@@abcdefghijkImnopqrstuvwxyz. Saw the Twitter discourse and wanted to judge the game for myself.

[@abcdefghijkImnopqrstuvwxyz.]

@@TheAdvertisement Fair-

[@smthreallycool]

Whilst thos whole thing was horrifying, I think it was the first part, before the cannibalism and all that was the most absurdly gut wrenching of all of it. Just the fact that filling their stomachs with water spiked with salt to make sure they don't die of overhydration is so scary to me it almost makes me sick. I love this so much.

[@masxe4106]

I feel that the people that say that they became lovers are misreading the situation. Yes Ashley says that "I want you only for myself" and all, but that is not always romantic. Ashley lost all of her friends one way or another (mostly through her personality) and she just doesn't want someone stealing her brother, aka the litteraly only person left who cares about her But if the dev intended them to indeed be lovers, oh well

[@nise6699]

schrodinger's lovers, they could and couldn't be until the author gives insight to it

[@jonaw.2153]

I mean, I'm usually all for seeing these kinds of intimate relationships as anything but romantic, but by God does it feel like a brother-complex.

[@snsech]

@@jonaw.2153bh her parents seem highly neglectful and ashley displays very obviously that she doesn’t give a shit about others being hurt or doing things that would be reprehensible morally/legally (unlike andrew), which shows she’s not a mentally healthy individual. to me it clearly looks like she just latched onto the one and only person who genuinely cared about her, and she’s definitely not very stable, so it doesn’t really surprise me that she’d end up like this. andrew definitely doesn’t seem to feel the same way about her (for example he’s had girlfriends) but he does care about her (and she knows which buttons to press to make him do what she wants, also). i like how complex it is because that’s usually how it is in an abusive relationship, and they both fit the bill. i think the devs intended for it to be uncomfortable, because i dob’t really see them portraying it in a good light here, but who knows

[@nise6699]

@@jonaw.2153 Brother complex doesn't necessarily have to be romantic, it's just associated with it because most romantic is brother complex

[@jonaw.2153]

@@nise6699 Of course, I won't speak against that. It's just that Ashley very clearly has no problems with the tabboo at all, and I'm more than sure incestuous thoughts have at the very least crossed her mind.

[@captainkawaii666]

Andrew and Ashley feel so real, their interactions are just so realistic and natural feeling

[@Alice-Cullen-Fan]

"Natural"

[@sohaibtheex017]

​@@Alice-Cullen-FanIt IS pretty natural when you put the whole cannibalism, murder and possible incest aside.

[@CourierCat-isGod]

well um...

[@Notheare]

hell yeah ''dont waste this limb pls brother'' 😭 jokes asside you have a point

[@eduespro]

That makes this story disturbing

[@ramendude4062]

This feels like watching someone slowly peel my skin away, horrific and agonizing, yet so deep and intense that it makes my mind spin and I can't take my eyes off it.

[@utamari]

This game has the overall vibe of a small box that’s slightly bigger than you are, that your not claustrophobic in. but as soon as you touch a wall, you know you’re going to start panicking. So you have found a way to maneuver around without touching the walls, barely, but not panicking. Sheer dread is what I think you call it. True dread.

[@axelf9947]

Why is Manly’s voice for andrew so perfect tho

[@tsaroftheunion]

These two siblings just feel so real, like all of the joking and swearing between them. As well as the sarcasm, that's how real (mainly younger) people (who know each other) speak to each other. It doubles as both funny and accurate.

[@Marie-fl9uu]

i've always hated toxic relationships, even if it was only fiction, but there's something about these two that are so compelling ???? and i LOVE their dialogue and interactions, it shows the codependency and toxicity SO WELL by showing the bad parts and good parts in their relationship. it's such a charming game that i really hope there's a sequel :'))

[@pwh1981]

Nemlei is currently working on a part two that will moreso be an extension to this game, but with more content and multiple endings.

[@Marie-fl9uu]

@@pwh1981 LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO

[@keilti]

It's so "compelling" because it depicts the highs and lows of the emotional rollercoaster with narcisistic people very well. Ashley sees Andrew as her possession that only she owns and everytime she noticed that Andrew is pulling away from her, she then proceeds act like a victim, gaslights him and starts pulling his strings, because Andrew cares about her and is supposed to take care of her and she knows that very well. After she gets what she wants, she then rewards him by being the sister he loves untill her next outburst and the whole thing repeats over and over again just like in real life untill the victim manages to escape...

[@lirenxin5472]

You know what, when I read into this I actually liked it so much that I personally wanted to get a sibling. That’s literally how much I loved that toxic relationship 😢

[@rubymckenna5169]

I’m very similar, but I think the reason why (for me at least-) is because not everything can actually be blamed on Ashley just being a terrible person. like at various points you can really tell that she’s really just a human being that desperately needed help from a young age, and in different circumstances could’ve gotten better, or maybe I’m just significantly less critical of cannibalism after that one history lesson on Holodomor, who knows lol

[@AnnoyingMystery]

Not gonna lie, I would absolutely love if this got another game/a sequel or even a whole trilogy. These characters are so endearing to me despite being so toxic and i can imagine them easily getting into more trouble and having multiple games depicting their struggles and crimes. Especially with the whole “this episode is called-“ theme. I also wanna see Ashley deal with her prophetic dreams now!

[@sohaibtheex017]

Yeah, a sequel is currently on the way, so look out for that.

[@AnnoyingMystery]

@@sohaibtheex017 oh im actually so glad to hear that! Tysm for letting me know!

[@404_kayjay_not_found]

Holy crap this is so well written, and their expressions are on point. This game is really a gem.

[@WackChen]

mom: go play with the neighbors kid *_the neighbors kid:_*

[@flairasterisk2096]

god i love these two, hope they make a sequel or something, the art, their character and dialogues is the perfect combination of being cute and messed up.

[@vincenttrigg4521]

It's sounds a lot like they will make a sequel, otherwise I don't see the point of adding the demon. They could've just lured the second warden up and ambushed him. Plus the clairvoyant dreams thing, it wasn't used here so odds are it will get used in the future. Otherwise they could've just been given aid to escape.

[@michaelgraham9774]

The thing about the clairvoyant dreams seems to be hinting at future stories in the works. Otherwise it would've been pointless to mention it and then end it off here

[@zacmayes2802]

I don't want any "art" about his game... Especially since it's implied that... No, just no

[@chica110207]

@🌺 Alyssa 📛 wait how do you know this is there a second game or like is it written somewhere??

[@vincenttrigg4521]

@Syllasha How would you know any spoilers? I'm not reading your full message as you say they are spoilers and I don't want to have it spoiled.

[@elliezabethross4783]

Late but making an entry with my own perspective: "The coffin of Andy and Leyley" Andy and Leyley DID die in that building, Andrew made sure of that in the end, so they only left behind Andrew and Ashley. Andy and Leyley where buried and left behind in that room. This kinda gives me hope for their relationship to get healthier after the fact, I really like that it's sort of open ended and you can draw your own conclusions as to how they might get on in the future. So while we all want a sequel, I'm satisfied if the story is left as is.

[@andresmartinezramos7513]

"gives me hope for their relationship to get healthier" Nah fam, they are up shitcreek without a paddle

[@citrinekillz]

I personally believe that Andy and Leyley was the last innocent part of them that died in that building and now they're fully embraced by the toxic relationship they have and their less then moral actions as Andrew and Ashley. Sorry if that doesn't make sense my English is bad this morning. It's my first language I'm just bad at communicating lol

[@qoph1988]

Idk, I just assumed that the writing started in 2020 and the author felt like she was cooped up in a coffin, stuck in an apartment, etc etc and channeled that into chapter 1. The rest is pretty standard visual novel brocon stuff

[@snookspider2408]

💀

[@Pyracyntrix]

I would like some slice-of-life follow up stuff. Maybe a comic, that'd be nice.

[@MilesTailsProwerfan9]

Ashley: (singing) "Do you want to eat the neighbor? Come on, he has a lot of meeeeeeat!" Andrew: "What the fuck?!"

[@lotuzribbon]

i heard this in the "Do you wanna build a snow man?" tune

[@DevoDude]

@@lotuzribbon twas the point, dear squire

[@lotuzribbon]

@@DevoDude :'}

[@AxisOlive]

@@DevoDude I thought it was 'I've been working on the railroad' nursery rhyme fml

[@somerandomguy5507]

@@lotuzribbon Same lol

[@BONABERRY07]

If I had a nickel for every time I've seen a game about cannibalistic incestuous siblings, I would have one nickel. I don't want any more nickels.

[@the_vietcong_man_]

i love how the two have the typical sibling squabble/banter but with an obvious dark twist on it.

[@UnusualActivity195]

Is anyone gonna talk about manly's abilities as a voice actor? The way he voice acts every line, looks like he has experience

[@Damnitol22]

Judging by how many videos he had out, off definitely say he has experience lol.

[@tntblast500]

I love the dialogue in this. The siblings bounce off each other so well, it's just... wow.

[@lenarmangum8630]

…And they’re be doing a lot more “bouncing off of each other in chapter 2.” if you catch my drift.😏

[@citrinekillz]

​@lenarmangum8630 what. What do you mean. I got vibes but don't tell me something weird actually happens between them D:

[@join4291]

​@@citrinekillzyou haven't seen the second part, have you? I could tell you but its huge spoilers

[@Howtobasic2116]

Please tell me rn i havent saw the second part

[@Lowqualitybird]

@@Howtobasic2116they have incest

[@tpd1864blake]

If I got kidnapped by my crush, that would probably have profound mental effects on me

[@tirasangue1]

So, my guess is, they both had a turbulent childhood for some reason, and it molded Ashley’s entire personality. She is clearly a sociopath, but also one that is quite fond of manipulation, which tells me that she realized very early on that manipulation was the main way to get what she wanted. I’d wager mostly due to the pains of Ashley’s obsessive, manipulative and clear sociopathic behavior, as well as Andrews subservience, the parents decided to sell off their children in some sort of “black market” apartment used for organ harvesting (it seemed mostly for blood harvesting so maybe they genuinely didn’t know it was that bad). Since AB is a pretty useless blood type to harvest, they just slowly starve Andrew and Ashley till they escape. Does Ashley have a glimmer of hope (I Can Fix Her Route)? Kind of. There’s a few inconsistent actions with her being a sociopath. For one, she seems truly emotionally dependent on Andrew’s attention, to the point where, until they saw the cultist dying, I figure she would have rather died with Andrew than murder and eat him. Furthermore, she mentions how her parents and friends did nothing for her when she asked for help, and mentioned she didn’t feel like caring about them anymore. This implies, surprisingly, that she cared about them. This could be disregarded as her playing it up, since she also didn’t care tons about her childhood friend dying in a locked box, but when she spoke of this it did have her rare dark-eyed sprite, which had been associated with genuine “bad” feelings (like starving to death lol). All in all, INSANE character-building. Dialogue was on-point, and having a “normal” (normal here: being merely capable of feeling empathy) character bounce off of a sociopath made for such an interesting perspective on both of them. And the common problem of writing a sociopath, being that he’s bound to betray or be abandoned by the slightly more sensible protagonist, is neatly resolved by their family bonds. Media that I can look at and confidently say I could not have executed what they were going for better in a million years is almost cathartic to find.

[@namvo3013]

Insanity will destroy them eventually, but this world have supernatural element

[@humvee2800]

more a psychopath. Andrew might be a sociopath. Ashley has no conscience and outright takes pleasure in harm they do. Andew has very little impulses one way or the other but certainly doesnt feel moral guilt over what they do, only a fear of consequence. He does buy into rationalisation though.

[@oxfordcommaisthegreatest]

Thing about people with ASPD (using this term instead of sociopath to be more precise) is that they CAN feel emotional attachments, so that part for me isn't inconsistent. It's just that they form emotional attachments differently. That depends on the person largely, but for example I've heard from an acquaintance that they can feel attached to people in the moment, but if they died or drifted apart they wouldn't care. Another person i talked to (a malignant narc I believe) said that their attachment is based on how similar the person is to them. And there's another buddy of mine who has an SO he genuinely cares about, just struggles to feel emotions towards at times due to lack of empathy and muted emotions. The experiences here are pretty vast and interesting.

[@oxfordcommaisthegreatest]

Take my comment with a grain of salt since I can't exactly bring up sources for what I'm saying, just a lot of personal anecdotes. My source is that I'm a clinical narcissist who happens to know a lot of people with cluster b disorders lol

[@zion_rk]

The creator did a really good job at making the personalities and backstories and whatnot, like seriously, when it came to, I genuinely wanted Andrew to choke Ashley out and toss her body over the balcony. What amazing literary skill.

[@josmamatotaldrama]

Fr fr

[@frostlone925]

I've seen people paint Ashley as the bad guy and Andrew as the victim. Now, while Ashley is *definitively* bad as a person, manipulating (albeit probably not fully on purpose, as she seems to genuinely believe anything less than giving her everything is neglect) her brother and guilt tripping him, it may be because he's grown numb to it all, but for the most part Andrew isn't so much scared of helping her as he's scared they'll get caught, The times he killed was because he was pushed to the edge, unlike her, so at least I wouldn't say he's as crazy as her but quite a strong moment that most people seem to forget when he actually snapped at her: He would put up with her, he would become partners in crime, it's not like he has a choice, sure, but first and foremost he likes her (*not in an incestuous way*), he cares about her and *wants* to get out of here *together*. But he won't put up with her being constantly jealous over nothing of importance. They came to an agreement, just the two of them, he's happy with it. I do think that while they are codependent, because he snapped at her and let her know that there are limits to what he can accept from her, she will try to control herself more, this is what I call a neutral ending for him. Bonus mention : Can we talk about the narrator in this game? Damn, considering Ashley's delusional tendencies I wouldn't be surprised if this was a voice she heard. I love it when the narrator is not a neutral entity.

[@S0m3B0z0OnTheInternet]

Oh yeah no, they’re both definitely toxic to eachother in their own ways as well as being mentally unwell. Ashley seems to have some sort of manipulative/ attention seeking disorder meanwhile Andrew is more numb to it all, but both of them seem to possibly have some sort of anti-social disorder (such as psychopathy or sociopathy) However, when it comes to the two, Ashley is…much worse..

[@ausdorian3252]

Yes indeed Ashley is the bad guy

[@Yaeza31]

I believe the sister is incestuously into him but yeah he isn’t into her like that.

[@Warden1869]

Bro wrote a whole multi paragraph essay 💀

[@LazerGlassX3]

@@Yaeza31wait how 😧

[@notsostealthmission5184]

I wish somebody would play through this game with multiple people so that way people could voice act for every scene and each character. You’re also pretty articulate and rarely messed up your words so big W

[@Scafary1859]

As somebody who is named Andrew, who has green eyes, who has a sister that is weird, this hits too close to home, W A Y too close to home.

[@Ench1L0ver]

well, obviously is gonna hit lol, look at these coincidences haha

[@anotherordinaryfellow6935]

Zamm you had green eyes?

[@LonerChief]

Bro let's just hope you don't get involved in an organ doner organization in an apartment not getting fed along with your insane sister and eat yalls satanic neighbor to escape a weird buidling telling yall lies and then leave said complex and never go into the public eye ever again as your old selves.

[@DevoDude]

maybe your sister is a programmer in secret?

[@Ench1L0ver]

@@DevoDude maybe she's a psycho in secret?

[@Lectures_de_Lineia]

As toxic as their relation is, I like it. Their banter felt very sibling like and it works pretty well.

[@deanmalto]

But Ashley dialogue towards andrew is kinda sus, it's borderline if not full on brocon, I think it's normal for a family member to feel jealous about their family member affection taken away from them, but Ashley's just take it to the next level

[@dagoose9570]

@@deanmalto toxic codependency…. Ashley’s case is exacerbated probably by the fact that she’s got some mental issues going onnnn and is extremely insecure about her worth to others, also the fact that the only person she can rely on is basically her brother since he seems to be the only one who really cares.

[@blaze-hz5qb]

​@@deanmalto because ashley is possessive and mentally ill, its wanting to be the center of attention from your sibling taken to the extreme. if you're interpreting an abusive sibling dynamic as romantic or incestuous that's your own problem

[@anotherordinaryfellow6935]

​@@deanmalto I think she's *not* jealous, Its her Insecurity taking act combining her Toxic Manipulative trait. As said in the Gameplay, she doesnt want *anybody* to take her Brother, because then, he would not notice her, She wants HIS attention, only her, because of all the Years of Neglect and not gaining friends because of her personality, her Brother is the only who *'cared'* for her, Its all in the matter of perspective and environment. *So no incest involve-*

[@deki9827]

@@anotherordinaryfellow6935 hopefully

[@cloudykid7278]

Okay, the aesthetic of the game is really cute and it kinda reminds me of something drawn on old parchment paper

[@urbainleverrier1]

especially if you have your eye protection thingy on your phone turned on

[@AidenGuelas]

Ashley really go that “ choose me, pick me” vibe. Someone needs to stop her. This girl is a menace to the entire world.

[@Kinglovinstone]

No but literally, she has the power of Satan in her hands, I feel like we should-

[@insomniadog3386]

this really is a rollercoaster, it sends you back and forth with their cute banter, and then horrible traumatizing occurrences. i hope there’s a sequel made, there’s so much stuff going on here i wanna know more about

[@sohaibtheex017]

A sequel is coming soon, Dev confirmed.

[@nivdy]

this game is so strange to me, it seems so cheery despite the absolutely grim story.

[@Haru-rs2su]

This has got to be some genre of games, I've seen a lot of the same. No idea what it's called though.

[@powpowouchy5]

The world they live in is so irreverent and disjointed from our own that you can’t help but not take it too seriously. Not to mention the charming artstyle and spritework makes all the dark stuff seem benign.

[@Aetherkisser]

​@@Haru-rs2su Maybe Indie?? Omori seems just a little similar to this game.

[@Haru-rs2su]

@@Aetherkisser well, not exactly that kind of genre. I mean... The atmosphere? The way it's like OP said, grim yet cheerful, positive yet negative with the way the characters interact. Indie is more a category of game making.

[@Aetherkisser]

@@Haru-rs2su Oh, I see. Thank you for explaining nicely!!

[@Shrine.-]

i desperately need a sequel to this game, its cute but in a very dark and morbid way (The sequel was cool, but it's one of the most controversial topics right now lmao)

[@pissapocalypse]

This game is moldy

[@Rocca000]

It’s coming out Oct 13th but it still has weird vibes so..

[@BlooMonkiMan]

We do not need another dating sim.

[@pro_154]

Bruh you made my ribs cramp, I love it, but I understand your views

[@syrusalder7795]

gotta have the game be finished before you can wish for a sequel my man.

[@Sykospresso]

I've tried to stay away from this game for the longest time but it's actually really good. I genuinely like the comedy. Also your voice makes it really dramatic and cool (cool voice)

[@CygnusDoesThings]

i LOVE being able to play morally dubious if not outright irrational characters. it’s so cool. I get to live vicariously through video games

[@josmamatotaldrama]

Frrr

[@lefandomtrash7746]

I *seriously* hope the developers create a sequel to this or something. The world building is so interesting and the dynamics between Ashley and Andrew have a lot of room to be explored and developed!! I love the art style, the way it goes about creating the mystery, the increasing tension…! I seriously hope this gets expanded upon because I’m invested. Edit: Why are there so many comments about there being “incest undertones”? This comment section is getting way too (for lack of a better term) amatonormative for everyone’s comfort.

[@thelordz33]

A lot of people don't seem to understand that people can be close and affectionate without being romantically or sexually involved. These are the same kind of people who see two guys being close to each other and immediately think they're gay.

[@BluecoreG]

Her dreams can see the future, if that doesn't scream sequel I don't know what will. If you have seen Physical Exorcism I can imagine it will go that route.

[@FrancisStarTraveler]

I feel like people see this as an incest story because the concept is Oddly interesting, toxic murderous mentally ill siblings developing a relationship; also the way they talk and express to each other, but I don't think they wanted to portray that kind of relationship in the game

[@TheOriginalJDubbed]

I don't know about Andrew, but Ashley's dialogue has way too many undertones. At first it felt like a standard possessive toxic sibling dynamic. But it was little things she did that made that tone shift. Like the way she traces his lips when she was teasing him when he has trouble sleeping. That was shit my gf would do, but I could never see my sister doing anything like that.

[@Itzspooker]

@@TheOriginalJDubbed Yeah Its The undertones Its not outright Said But some of Ashley’s actions towards Andrew is like 😬

[@fire.smok3]

This was a really great story. It's rare for horror-comedy combinations to be pulled off well, but this game did so excellently. And I like how this centers on a sibling relationship, I feel that's not as common in media as say romantic relationships or parent-child relationships.

[@vap0r0us]

I love the art style so much, the characters are written so good, and the portrayal of their relationship is amazing :D

[@howlsthewolf]

I feel like it makes more sense for the sibling relationship to not be incestuous, especially when Ashley consistently mentions that Andrew is her brother. I think the reason she interfers with his love life is similar to sons with overbearing mothers who feel like their son will leave them if they find a girl. So Ashley refuses to accept that any girl is good enough for Andrew because she will never let them become as important as her to him and risk having the only person to care about her be taken away

[@travislyonsgary]

I noticed that Ashley was doing what a what of people with insecure attachment do in her actions and arguments, basically putting up test, to prove that the other person cares about them, because they are so unsure if anyone will keep caring about them. Her view of the girlfriends Andrew might get is actually a interesting case, since she seemed to be testing them on two fronts, one to see if they would pass the test by not "quitting" on her brother, and in that tribulation reach a equilibrium where they dont steal her brother from her/meet her qualifications to possibly be another person worth caring about. If there is a sequel I would be quite interested in seeing what kind of person would mesh with the siblings as they live their life on the run

[@howlsthewolf]

​@@travislyonsgary yeah she's testing people and then gets upset when people leave or get mad at her for it. Considering what we know about her mother it's reasonable to assume her and Andrew were very neglected and a lot of parental responsibility might have been given to Andrew

[@yasmineguerin2852]

Duh like the first sentence is obvious

[@EverTheAnnihilator]

Just wanna let you know, when family acts that way towards you, treating you like a spouse and expecting you to meet their emotional needs like a partner would, it's called "emotional/covert incest". This is the driving factor of those overbearing mom/son relationships you're talking about.

[@Absinthis]

Sounds like cope to me

[@melon0637]

This story gives so much food for thought, I want to share mine. Ashley, at a young age is already showing signs of sociopathic behaviours and I can gather from her vulgar language that she grew up exposed to bad stuff. Threats form naturally, she knows how to not get in trouble (so she's pretty smart), and she has a strange obsession towards attention (specifically her brother). Through some texts, Ashley probably has a small tiny bit of conscience inside her which is probably buried so deep, it's practically 6 feet under and will not be seeing the light of day after this organ harvesting ordeal. It's done and over and the chance of it ever rising should be theoretically nonexistent. I actually thought this was incestuous at the end but not at the same time. I sympathized with Ashley's fear of losing her brother, like when I was a child I didn't want my cousin to call my father dad because my dad is my dad, not his. But it was child-like and didn't last until adulthood; ashley didn't properly develop (or missed it, i guess) this stage of emotional development which I guess turned this, already over the top jealousy, to obsession. She's always suspicious and unbelieving; which she most likely got from her parents as well. Well, she's still an extremely messed up person though. Now for andrew.... Andrew hates "Andy", he said andy was spineless and stuff. I think the spineless part should be related to their mother actually. Andy could be a nickname from his mother; whatever mother said, he would listen; guilt tripped by leyley, he bends and listen. Therefore, spineless.(Oooh, mother and daughter really mirrored each other there.) Andrew is an overthinker and a planner. So he worries a lot, and between the two, he can mold better with society. While Ashley is temperamental, suspicious and sociopathic. The ending is well suited for this pair of siblings. Besides, ashley can dream of the future now. They will survive and maybe even thrive. Maybe get some character development, and maybe one day get some therapy. I think having clairvoyant dreams should help ease her suspicious personality for just a tiny tiny tiny bit. -Btw andrew's so attractive like gurl if only ur sister's not such a brocon and a sociopath then I-

[@poke548]

For sure. Their mother definitely kind of just handed responsibility for Ashley off onto Andrew, and as far as we can tell their father isn't any better. For Ashley, Andrew is the closest thing to a father figure she's had, and the only figure of authority who actually gave a damn about her. Doesn't help that he is also, by extension, really easy to exploit. I feel like Ashley also has some serious self-worth issues. Sure, she acts all cocksure even in normally stressful situations, but as soon as there's another woman in the picture she falls to pieces. Every little comment from the people around her becomes an unspoken comparison, and every overt comparison is perceived through of all of Ashley's own insecurities. And whenever she's pushed to her limit, the one thing that's most important to her is asking Andrew what's not good enough about her. What's wrong with her. Why he would want to "pick" someone else. She's not just asking for affirmation and for her brother to stay with her, she thinks there's something really wrong with her... which, I mean, well, there _is_ but she seems to have come to terms with her sociopathy. She's convinced there's some other reason, that she's not pretty enough, or not quiet enough, or not happy enough, and can't accept that Andrew can have multiple different types of feelings for multiple different women, including platonic and romantic love, based on different traits. -And yeah, Ashley is also super hot. If only she wasn't a toxic sociopath. The playfulness, the neediness (at least up to a point), the choker, the slightly messy hair... goddamn.-

[@1fish146]

i completely agree! -literally though, through the whole playthrough i just couldn't get mind off of how fine he is-

[@yanoizikawa770]

Not you guys simping over them- 😂😂😂 -I couldn't agree more. The way Andrew looks is just so--

[@o_0995]

couldn’t agree more -and yeah honestly the only reason I clicked on this playthrough is bc I saw andrew in the thumbnail and just was like- -

[@dredzel5775]

In my opinion both of them are fine af

[@Marmar_157]

Ashely seems psychotic but Andrew seemed strangely calm when he killed too people, while yes he did almost puke while eating their neighbor, he didn’t even gag or anything when he killed those other too people but overall I actually love this game, looks and sounds really good and I love the story and would really like to see a continuation of it

[@lirenxin5472]

I think like he said, his mental breakdown is gonna come later. I don’t know whether you have experienced it, but sometimes when you do horrible things it only dawn on you when you feel especially vulnerable. I honestly think it’s just because at the current end of the game Andrew is too focused on getting out and trying to battle his sister’s manipulation and he cannot show any emotional vulnerability that he showed to her after he ate the cultist and chopped his head off.

[@kittypeanut4102]

Can relate, sometimes i feel just too numb

[@aldebaran0_]

Some people dont get immediate reactions from emotionally distressing or traumatic events. But its still in their mind regardless

[@stanthetree4865]

Yes, because gagging while eating is on the same level as gagging from seeing a fresh and still composed body

[@ishaalimtiaz6715]

That's often how trauma works - it only comes out when you're out of the traumatic situation. If it wasn't like that, then us humans as a race wouldn't have survived that long, you see.

[@Wertyber]

remember when this game wasn't known as "that incest horror game"? good times

[@Princess_Blue380]

I didn't even know it was incest, the more you know. Reminds me of one episode of Helluva Boss.

[@avacadotoast5571]

Tfw your sibling drags you into some crazy scheme that will probably get you both in trouble 😳

[@spingus1]

As someone who has experience with doing dumb shit with a sibling, the answer is simple-if you get caught, you can shift the blame to them

[@BobBillans]

"Pherb? I know what we're gonna do today!"

[@justmovedin]

Please let this be a normal quarantine... With the Leyley? No way!

[@goldenboxen6430]

if you look pass the gaslighting verbal abuse cannibalism murder demons and being able to do about anything illegel or dangerous while still being in a cheerful and playing mood ashley is a pretty likable character

[@-iinkena-9818]

lmao

[@gehadsheha4775]

Bro, why is this so relatable 😂

[@Fritz9672]

Except that is her entire character lmao

[@Nepetita69696]

​@@Fritz9672This

[@djphantom8800]

As messed up as they can be, Andrew and Ashley are both weirdly appealing. I ain't disgusted by their behaviour. Sure, I am definitely not at ease and my day is crumbling apart because now I feel horrible. But still, the game is so well-made that the only thing I can do is applause internally while begging for my head to cool down. Congrats to the creators : you know your stuff and you're amazing.

[@letsreadtextbook1687]

Manly is on spot about this being a western yandere. And I actually kinda like this kinda horror better (well i don't like yandere so thats not a high bar) because it takes more tact, more skill from the author to write convincing toxic dialogue rather than a girl simply using force, poison, magic, curse what have you to keep the target under wrap. And yeah it's campy, you're playing as the evil, sure, but the warden more so. So Ashley is a gaslighting bitch, but to think of it, their mom is probably worse. And regarding the toxic relationship itself, the setting is unique as them being siblings not just for the wincest tease (/j) but it's more believable for Andrew to put up with her shits, ya know? Cuz she know him her entire life and knows his buttons well, that it feels incorrect to even call Andrew spineless or simp, in which I think the ending makes it clear that he's not. But think about it if they just have known each other for few days, those three months, or even a year, we couldn't say the same. On the flip side, unlike typical yandere that would be rather kill the target than having him get away, Ashley shows that she would not do that, even at real risk at getting killed and/or having him get away. Granted, this is partly her usual gaslighting too but it's such a fresh plot to not having her snap here. It seems like she genuinely needs Andrew to keep herself intact, rather than most yandere in which that part is just an excuse for whatever other problem they have. And I joked about wincest earlier, but it is actually pretty nice that they never insinuated it at all other than in joking manner. I mean obviously, again, it's still toxic as fuck, but ya know at least we don't have that.

[@travislyonsgary]

I find it especially interesting in that you can see how their attitudes developed through Ashelys conversation with her mom early on and the "hide and seek" event. Their parents neglect them, and appear to have put the impetus on Andrew to take care of his sister. Ashley as a result became very insecure in her attachment, and put a special emphasis on Andrew as he was the one who she got habitually and literally told, would love and take care of her. She quite possibly has APD, and basically grew up in an environment with no one giving her much in the way of explanations for rules, or teaching Andrew how to teach her. Its rather tragic but fitting specifically because they are siblings who have basically grown up into a codependent relationship as a result of their circumstances.

[@ManlyBadassHero]

Andrew and Ashley would then go on to move to a certain town working together till to their surprise a group of novice Demon Slayers and one random sister in a box would appear to finish them off.

[@BernardWhy]

​@@ManlyBadassHero lmao

[@fabianp.2986]

​@@BernardWhy They either be scrubs or upper moons.

[@letsreadtextbook1687]

@@travislyonsgary ooo that's a nice observation! Definitely was bugging me why she said "Mom said you would" and mom on phone said "Isn't Andrew there too? [Go ask him to take care of what you're whining about]". I didn't put two and two together that their mom had been shifting all caretaking business of Ashley into Andrew.

[@kinslayer1532]

FUN FACT: Human meat is often called long pork due to it's taste. See, human meat actually tastes a lot like pork, however it is noticeably sweeter. It is also unclear if the neck or legs are the best part, as many accounts say that the neck is the most tender, however some say the legs are juicier. Don't question how I know this, I'm a cook.

[@flynnrider8610]

i heard the hands are really good

[@SlikDewd]

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[@wh1teandn3rdy]

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[@amTallerThanYou]

It's also said to taste like baby cow!

[@andistansbury4366]

What do you cook?