Horse Constantly Kicks Out!

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

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[@PaulaSalter-l2f]

I liked this. I want to join.

[@trppro7640]

That’s what I would say. Usually there is pain or discomfort.

[@lisaelliott8721]

You can see that as he moves and bends on the circle, his right hock wobbles and pops out. I would stake my paycheck that it’s more about pain or discomfort. I wouldn’t think extreme pain but he is obviously in discomfort and he don’t like it!

[@skyman06]

@@lisaelliott8721 if you were correct and he was in enough pain or discomfort to act that way, he would not be improving behaviorally that much in a few minutes based on some simple non-agressive training techniques, he would still be fighting her. I know you probably have your internet veterinarian degree, but Ryan requires all the "problem" horses he shows in videos to be checked by actual veterinarians before he will even see them. He wont work with a horse he thinks is in pain. He's addressed this many times.

[@challrise]

@@trppro7640 That's the firt thing I noticed as soon she started the ground work, his back right

[@yogawithkassandra]

My horse started doing EXACTLY this and we x-rayed and found OCD/bone chips in both hind fetlocks! He was stoic for the longest time until he just couldn't hide it anymore, and then the kicking out started. He had surgery and is now 100% sound and well mannered under saddle. He wasn't lazy, he was hurting. He wasn't resisting, he was lame. I know it's annoying to always hear people say check for pain etc when there's "bad" behavior but... check for pain! It's so often the culprit and horses are such amazing animals they will learn to shut down after not being heard for so long.

[@equestanton1017]

Agree.

[@KLO_Barrelracing]

I believe Tyan said in a video he has the horses get checked out before coming here

[@ElizabethBianchi-v1j]

I agree with you.

[@tamiboelter5491]

I absolutely agree...check for pain

[@paillette2010]

MORE people should be looking at pain issues. I think horses are extremely stoic, but exhibit pain by acting out. I am surprised at how these issues are turned into a behavior problem.

[@JanaRussellNails]

"I'm not telling him where to go, I'm showing him where not to be. " There's gold in that thought! So many good ideas that are here, I know I'll forget many. Thank you both!

[@adventuresofmozzieandmel]

I love the part where you said “he doesn’t need to call out because I am here and this is his herd.” It’s so important to know how they tick! I love these videos. Thank you 🦋

[@torialexander2011]

Best trainer I have watched! And I've been working with horses for 40 years.

[@billmoeller9257]

😊o😊o 2:48 2:49

[@terryst9835]

But Ryan has done nothing up to that point to show the horse that he COULD BE part of his herd. Very early on, the horse wanted to walk up to him and engage with him and his rider, the rider pulls back on his face and shoves him out of the way. The horse is looking away, wandering around, Ryan is too busy talking to the rider, not paying attention to the horse. Then expects the horse to magically see him as an asset, just because Ryan is holding the end of the rope attached to him. Horses WILL connect with humans and see them as someone to be trusted, but it takes paying attention to the horse, and showing them that you are aware of them, yourselves, and the surroundings. As prey animals, their priority is safety. The herd stays safe by staying aware. If you can't prove to them your awareness, you are NOT part of their herd. Physical proximity alone doesn't cut it.

[@ellierose6]

This was great. A lot of riders wouldn't want to be filmed here because the cowboys come in to criticize, but she's a pro, and I bet what she learned here taught others. Thank you.

[@pamelab1400]

I'm just blown away by how beautiful this horse is.

[@arribaficationwineho32]

Agree

[@Oakleaf700]

He's like an antique rocking horse {English type} in his markings.

[@dianahoneycutt1869]

I love that after 50 yrs I can still learn something new. Never thought about the sheath noise 😂. Thinking back and hearing that when first training geldings

[@stephengunterdc9651]

I think I just saw (at 44:53 on the timer) the rider crop her horse immediately after he followed her cues to move; perhaps not so coincidentally, the horse kicked out in the fashion they had been trying to avoid. Unless I misunderstood the rules of that game, the failure in that moment was on the part of the rider. I find it remarkable how frequently "problem horses" appear to me to be confused horses, with problematic riders as the underlying issue. Thanks for your patient teaching, RR.

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

Exactly what I noticed as well. She is - as most riders with issues - do - blaming the horse for being lazy etc. - what I see are many miscommunications, poor riding posture and rough stiff hands, etc, and a horse expressing confusion and frustration as she hits him after confusing him - very predictable.

[@dreamtoreality9892]

I agree 💯 with you. I would say that the only 2 things that make a problem horse is #1 rider and #2 something medical. He is a beautiful horse that was never trained correctly from the start and then he had medical issues. This poor horse is definitely confused and scared at the same time.

[@tagadaki]

Well I think you are right, actually you see it the fiiiirst seconds of the video, as soon as she touches him with the stick, he instantly kicks, but it's hard to see. I don't know, some horses hate the stick also, because of bad experiences or because they are sensitive. I ride sometimes a horse that hates the stick, he is so scared of it, so I just don't take it and it's completely fine without.

[@PonyLoverEquestrian1010]

I think it's the rider not the horse to be honest.

[@saradavis4805]

@@PonyLoverEquestrian1010 Definitely the rider. They could both benefit tremendously from lessons together.

[@stephannewenhisen6439]

I apreciate the owner being wiling to be in video cause that takes some courage 👍

[@Bluemoonfarm17]

Thank you to the rider for allowing her session to be posted online for public flogging. Brave lady! This was extremely helpful information for one of my horses than can have that similar kicking out reaction to the “go” button when I’m asking for collection/forward… I tried it today, and I already saw a difference! Don’t bother leaving ugly comments about “kissing spine,” “back issues,” “hock problems,” ad nauseam, ad infinitum; he’s been fully vetted and the vet said and I quote, “Nothing wrong with him except what’s between his ears.”

[@jett888]

The start on a race track was probably the first insult to the horse. But i think these two are going to be fine together as they worked it out as we watched didn't they. Yes, is a brave lady and was willing to do it for Goose! yeay us! lol

[@ErinWise-24]

This video helped increase my understanding of the purpose of resetting, and I can see so many flaws in my training thinking about the way I "make" my horses do xyz, and yet their depth of understanding isn't there. Thank you!

[@karenmiller129]

Being on OTTB I'd be concerned about kissing spine which requires x rays to diagnose.. I know that Ryan has an eagle eye and is incredibly good with horses as is his wife and I love watching them. I just hope all proper diagnostics have been done. Im such a softie for OTTB's.. ❤

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

My thought as well together with her poor riding skills, inability to communicate, and abuse of the crop. His hindquarters etc are not moving correctly and frankly I think he obviously has issues that are causing pain. Sigh.

[@kajinsautumn9833]

@@4Mr.Crowley2 I was wondering if her saddle fits her and the horse as well. I noticed when she was trying to disengage the hindquarters, she was leaning way off balance and she needs to bring the rein more to her hip?

[@RosmeeSandberg]

Most people on here are so busy telling us how to fix this horse that they are completely missing all of the training skills this man is giving us. His training is working and proving that he knows more about how to fix this horses problems than all of the keyboard warriors.

[@marilyn5208]

Yes. His wife should evaluate this horse. Needs physical therapy or Chiropractor.

[@amberblyledge7859]

I feel like he took a tumble. His poll is SO tight that he can't move through at all. He has so many issues.

[@annaa1259]

really great and impressive! And many thanks to the rider for allowing herself to be filmed, it takes a lot of courage! This video helped me a lot for inspiration with my somewhat difficult gelding, who resists a lot of every kind of little pressure that he probably experienced during his training...

[@jodykurt9935]

Just started listening but immediately thought pain with first kick

[@stardust949]

Thank You! That is what is telegraphing through the screen to me as well. Yes, she (the rider) needs instruction, better cues---but I believe that horse has some back pain and needs a chiropractic adjustment treatment or two. There's a pain block that's in his spine.

[@deniselawrence7491]

My first horse played that game with me in the beginning. He's feel to me like he was limping so I'd get off and check him out. It worked every time he wanted me to get off I did!! Well eventually I figured it out and we rode on just fine.

[@Oakleaf700]

@@stardust949 I too feel that he has back pain.

[@The-Lonley-Equestrian]

He is very in his right back. It doesn’t have as much bounce and flow as his other legs.

[@aleb_equine]

he simply doesn't like be kicked he doesnt like being whipped and I dont blame him. hes very sensitive and tries hard, its very evident because he quickly esponded to the sqeezes. shes so lucky to have had thia session with Ryan. great job Ryan 👏🏻

[@MissChrys]

I had a horse that was sweet and quiet, but if you used your feet, she would kick. We were trail riding, and there was a downed tree she wouldn’t go past. After a couple of minutes of trying to let her see it was fine, and her still refusing to go. I gave her a little kick, and I swear we crow-hopped past it 😂

[@leaneswanepoel2245]

Yeah and these type of horses we call strong willed its like a kid thats told to clean their room and they be like noo make me 😂 sometimes you just have to encourage them to deside to do it on their own otherwise it would be lile their saying im doing this only because i need you to just leave me alone and then there is no positive aspects of them trying to do it by themselves

[@The-Lonley-Equestrian]

He is very stiff looking. Especially in his right back leg. Must be something pain related.

[@KingsMom831]

“It’s about the conversation, not the number of laps“

[@Sainbury]

Kudos to her for getting Ryan to help her. I love the sweet look on his face, but he looks mischievous too.

[@aileen694]

Yeah, I've always thot Ryan was mischievous...😁

[@colleenmonahan3114]

Great video. Thank you. Loved seeing the subtle changes in this horse’s communication skills and responses. His owner/rider did a great job taking instruction and putting it into action. That can be so difficult in the moment. Gorgeous horse. Love his effortless movement with nice impulsive…once you got him understanding what was asked…and how he needs to respond. Really enjoy your analytical, open minded approach to horse training/communication. You really ‘make room for the horse’!

[@egeegee7146]

He is simply brilliant. He knew he was in control and he knew NO. When you get him to be in your herd and play with you in a willing fashion he will be stunning.

[@CDN_Bookmouse]

Y'all I'm just an amateur hobby rider so tell me if I'm wrong, but does anyone else see something wonky in this horse's movements? I feel like there's something off, maybe the right hind? Am I totally insane? Regardless of if I'm seeing things, I think it would be really good for Ryan to note that like 99% of the time, an issue like this is caused by pain. Poor saddle fit, lameness, teeth need floating, etc. This horse clearly has a lot of education and polishing needed and seemed to genuinely not understand what was being asked sometimes, but for the vast majority of people who encounter a horse kicking out under saddle, it's pain or discomfort, not naughtiness. EDIT: said left hind, meant right. Right hind.

[@lavenderwyvern]

Absolutely agree with you. So much of training is just teaching a horse that their pain doesn't matter and that they need to "get over" it.

[@bonniesears5286]

In the beginning of this video she said he was off for a year due to some illnesses. He probably needs to be worked to strengthen his muscles. I am sure he is still under vet care. Hope this helps.

[@CDN_Bookmouse]

@@bonniesears5286 I'm pretty sure Ryan has mentioned before that the horses are always checked before he goes to train them so I like to think so, but I've been very much disappointed by trainers' ethics before. I also just wanted to see if I was seeing things. So horses can do a hitch in their step with a nod because their muscles are weak, not necessarily due to pain?

[@damnlimpnickis509]

My sickle hock horse was bracing and kicking, and avoiding being mounted. He was being trimmed balanced on the hind. 10 years of lameness and behavior issues until lateral hoof was left a bit longer. This was the result of 3 vets telling me mild arthritis and many farriers over the years. He's a new horse now. He's willing and supple. Things can look right and be very wrong.

[@ktgequestrian4475]

​@CDN_Bookmouse if the horse cannot use its back properly because of the rider it can appear lame. It's known as "bridle lameness" at least in the uk. Don't know if there is a different name in the US.

[@Krinsta1]

I'd love to see these two in about 6 months.

[@SharonPorter-d3h]

Yes, please !!

[@colleenbemis3667]

I’m 70 years old and have loved and ridden horses all my life. I’ve taken some lessons over the years and would say there was much much more love than skill on my part. Watching your videos and learning to really understand horses is something I wish I’d had when I first started out. Nevertheless I appreciate watching and learning at this depth now. Thank you.

[@hannaharris5829]

This video is proof positive as to what an incredible trainer Ryan is! Broken down into such easy to understand language for both the human and the horse. I can't wait to teach my horse these skills.......although he gladly trots out when out on a trail ride, he is VERY reluctant to move out when ridden in the ring. He clings to this slow little jog and threatens to buck when I pressure him to move out. Thank you yet again, Ryan! And I love the longer film footage because we can see the entire, slow progression in this horse and rider.

[@Mainecoon_Izzy]

My thoroughbred started doing this years ago…. the vet told me it was because he was “tied-up” in his back. He wasn’t doing it to be bad. He was actually in pain and I had to give him away to a six year old child, because the horse could only tolerate their weight and no more.

[@Katherine_critters]

You should have kept the horse! Unless you couldnt pay for a horse your not riding any more, there is so much more possibilities, like legacy training and tricks that would not affect his back in any way!❤

[@elmsavannah8642]

What if that horse changed a 6 year old kid’s life for the better?

[@michelejohnson253]

Lose weight, then, not give him away.

[@kittycatdays8719]

⁠@@michelejohnson253yeah a 6 year old kid weighs 40lbs my dude. For a grown human that’s not even underweight, that is six feet under.

[@lalaloopsy-rh8ht]

@@michelejohnson253 idiot

[@JennTN411]

This horse is stunning! The coat is holographic 😮😮

[@mariem4614]

This really had great tips for leadership but in a soft manner. It is sad how critical some people are about rider ect as they are kind enough to share their training session to help others. Thank you for sharing

[@bethconey8421]

This is an amazing lesson and reset on this horse. SO much to observe/learn here. This is super!

[@abbykoop5363]

That reset is a game changer! I let my horse graze on our rides as we have no pasture at home. However, getting her to pick up and go again after 5-10 minutes was getting harder and she was just getting more dull. Two days of doing the reset and she gets going again after just my intention! So amazing how that little bit helps! (I want to mention that for ME it was more difficult to remember to STOP and reset, as we can get so ingrained to just keep asking. Such a great exercise!!!)

[@Cwgrlup]

My first horse was an OTTB and I thought HE was hard! Lol. Props to this girl for making the choice to get a real pro to help her with this beautiful guy. I wish her the very best. Thoroughbreds are a uniquely talented, athletic and intelligent horse once you get to know them❤

[@gregs8736]

Not every great trainer can be a great teacher! Ryan, you are both and have given us a lot of information to absorb and process. Thanks! ( And much appreciation to the rider for her courage to put herself in the public eye for such negative criticism in an effort to help other horses in similar situations!) Well done!!!

[@jenniferadam2258]

My young Arab mare used to do the same thing until I really focused on building hock and hind end strength and helping her find confidence in her own strength. She still very occasionally kicks out (very mildly) when frustrated with herself, but that just tells me she needs more time to get something. Now that she's stronger and more balanced, she's much softer and more willing. I do continue stretches and bodywork with her though, to prevent stiffness and soreness.

[@chrismack5908]

You are such a blessing to horses and their owners. Thank you!

[@sharonburgess9488]

That horse tunes her out alot.

[@melanies.6030]

I had to laugh at the beginning...old Goose was in his own little world😁!

[@lauraburton9179]

He tunes her out because she doesn’t know enough about connection language and horse psychology especially for a left brained horse. After awhile these horses just say what is the point these humans don’t listen or understand.

[@markmcmeen287]

Awesome video! Great "teaching" attitude with horse AND rider! Thanks for sharing.

[@haleykay776]

Such a fantastic video.... timing is everything and having a conversation rather than dictate... priceless. Thanks Ryan.

[@craigwalker9197]

Thanks Ryan, you helped me understand that it is about communication more than compliance. Teach the horse to think for himself. Well done.

[@susanlambert8164]

Wow Ryan that was so impressive you made such a positive change in the way the horse thinks. Love your videos learn so much. Wish my budget would allow me to be on patreon so appreciate you sharing these videos.

[@ThePetdoc86]

Where do you train out of? Do you let students come and observe?? mi am from the western side where your mind set is not heard of. I want to come watch and learn,

[@joa366393]

is no one else seeing the rear left leg walking slightly off? especially during rear view, see his hock shifting an extra move- double jointed or something..? I know Ryan eliminates all vet potentials, but I'm seeing an issue... like either an old injury, or needs adjustment?

[@sabinereini4633]

Agree, something is off with the rear hind leg. Very wobbly and dragging the toe

[@KymLikesGames]

I see this too. I noticed it doesn't track up as far as the right hind either. I wonder if there is some weakness on that side. Maybe an old injury. I'd be curious to see if it changes if this horse were to do pole work and other strengthening exercises.

[@sharimontgomery4795]

He could have ulcers.

[@flychomperfly]

I saw that he started to go at the girth -- as if it was too tight or irritating...so ulcers would also make sense. He is reacting to kicking or slapping or other pressures.

[@lisaharm2887]

The whole tail swishing for mares yes but gelding ? The started him racing and then done my question would be why ? Injury or just not fast enough. I would have him vetted and or chiropractor.

[@cb664]

Thanks for sharing this session. Very valuable instruction. I appreciate that the rider was quietly watching and listening to everything Ryan demonstrated.

[@JennBX1]

Ryan, I am really enjoying these videos. I did not grow up around horses, but rather admired them from afar. I find it so interesting that, when youre talking and have your back to them, they are usually staring at your back, with respect it seems. They must quickly learn from you, that you are the boss here!❤ Also your knowledge of a horses emotions, thoughts, and explanations of their behavior, leads me to think that you mustve been a horse an a previous life !!😊 Great videos!

[@SG-vu4qy]

this horse is great how he responds to clear communication of less is more. He leans into pressure while saying no. I wish there was time in this video for you to address the riders style of stopping. you were able to clearly help her with the forward, but the other end needed attention too. I also love how you taught to listen to the subtle signs of stress and how to relax him. I learned something new, thank you Ryan.

[@2024olivia]

Beautiful. What an excellent video. It’s like an art, amazing to see the change in this horse so quickly. Well done Ryan 👏🏻

[@KymLikesGames]

This horse is absolutely gorgeous. Looking forward to finishing the video as Ryan always has great advice. Edit - A lot of folks are saying that the horse has to be in pain, and it looks like he's in pain. I don't think that's the case here. If the horse is having as much tension as Ryan is suggesting, then the discomfort could be from that, not necessarily something like Kissing Spine or an injury. I'd be curious to see this horse several months later after some work on relaxing and finding some ease during his rides. I'm sure that "pain signal" would go away. but I'm not an expert, and most of us are not in this comment section, this is just my opinion and perspective. Sometimes attitude comes from genuine pain. But since this horse was willing to go on the ground, and even after being pushed and challenged still found some ease in his movement, I'm not inclined to believe this is a true pain issue.

[@francymarvel695]

Am I the ONLY one who watched this girl ride him in the beginning and her whole body was leaning back saying to the horse not to go, but WHILE she was asking him to go?

[@Oakleaf700]

She is a real leaner back type of person...and she looks a tad heavy for him....is it me, or is he looking like he has pain in his back?

[@apbeauregard]

​​@@Oakleaf700she's a light as a feather, not heavy for that horse. I will say that saddle doesn't fit. See it lift up in the back on the lunge? It doesn't fit. The pummel is high too. Weights going closer to the loin area when she sits it's putting alot of saddle at the back of that cantle. Even when she rides the back of the saddle is popping up alot. The seat also looks to small for her and she's really landing against the cantle. Also, she leans to the left as well u balancing her horse and limiting that shoulder. How didn't this trainer catch that... That could absolutely cause this reaction from the horse. Changing to a saddle that fits the horse and rider could possibly eliminate this issue without this entire lesson. I think the rider is too green for this horse as well. Also, at the end. He delayed far to long before he asked her to correct her horses Winnie. Should have been instant, but several seconds went by after the Winnie ended and then he asked her to correct. Horse has no idea now that's what the correction was for.

[@Oakleaf700]

@@apbeauregard The saddle does look very small- I do think the rider's seat gives this impression too- the leaning back, without the head, hip and ankle being in a vertical line- it's more of what used to be called ''A chair'' type position. It's definitely moving around a lot, perhaps the girth is too small. Definitely on a ride, I have to tighten the girth a hole or two on almost every horse- especially before fast work- one definitely doesn't want the saddle to slip.

[@apbeauregard]

@@Oakleaf700 a girth won't change the flipping up in the back. The flipping up in the back it because of a pivot point someplace either in front or the middle of the panel. So either it's to wide in the front or maybe too narrow in the center. Obviously, via a camera and not seeing it person I can't see which reason it would be. It could also be the saddle is not flat enough in the tree causing it to rock. I Def think the saddle seat is too small and because it doesn't fit the horse it's also pitching her to the cantle, making her unbalanced which does throw her into a chair seat and puts her behind the motion, which is why u see her leaning back. It's funny because my horses trainer, I'm giving her dressage lessons because she's more wester based, she was convinced she'd need a smaller seat cause she's so small like me, but I sat her in an 18 inch duet gp and she was like omg I feel wonderful. She said she could move in the saddle and immediately her whole position was more correct. It worked for her because like me she has a thicker thigh with a slightly wider pelvis even though she's so small, like me, I'm 115 and 5 foot 3 but can sit an 18 inch seat with comfort, though depending on the saddle a 17 or 17.5 can work too, since really it depends on wear the sadle sets the dot to measure and that isn't standard a cross saddles. So anyway, yea for this rider, I'd size up in that seat and try a dif tree for the horse. She might also benifot from a wider seat as well, instrad of having a narrow twist. Many saddles r made with those narrow twists but if your pelvis is wider that won't work, u really may need a wider twist so she could try a saddle like that and just see how it feels for her.

[@Cantergallop1]

​@@Oakleaf700I thought the same...

[@valbeech7509]

What a brilliant video! So much to take from and try out. Fab, thanks Ryan 👏👏🙂

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

Thanks

[@christinapaolicelli9919]

Great session.. I loved how you broke down how direct line the owner was being, hopefully she’ll start being much more thoughtful like for instance putting the bridle on … all of it matters to the horse, I loved the change in him when you were going over the 3 circle game. He got soft and was engaged with you… this was probably my favorite video …

[@karenmckean3916]

What a great tutorial for a complicated issue! Thank you!! So much fun to watch,

[@sueswift8426]

This amazing !! You are what I need to get respect from my horse and to see my weaknesses and how we communicate and connect ! I love this !!

[@janemirandafitch6476]

Brilliant teacher, so clear, such good observations and understanding horse brain. I learn so much. Thank you.

[@mikehenry6284]

Excellent Ryan, I think you really helped her to help him. You call it a conversation (which is fine) I call it a dance. Great lesson, I think after she learns to "dance" 😉 with Goose, he's going to be a great partner for her. Love and God Bless 💜 ✝️ Jennifer in AZ

[@LegendHold1]

Yep this horse needs to go back to all the fundamentals. Lots and Lots of ground work and lots of calm and confident leadership will get that stream of communication going. Don't try to force a horse into something they are afraid of or do not understand...convince them they want to work through the pressure to be with you. Ryan's totally right on this big boy.

[@TVfreezone]

Mr. Rose's instruction, as usual, is spot on. But the rider's stirrup length is too short for hunt seat, which is, in this case, is resulting in her legs being too far forward and not in any way underneath her, and in her sitting too far back. Longer stirrups would permit a better seat and more effective leg use.

[@lynnturton6257]

That was brilliant I almost teared up when they got it right. Ryan is an amazing horseman/person.

[@corinneguest]

Brilliant. Not even a horse owner but love the communication pathways happening here.

[@wickedcabinboy]

What a beautiful horse. His name couldn't be more appropriate, given his color. And he's smart. Initially, another obvious cue we can see is the horse persistently invading the boundary of Ryan as well as the owner. As I understand it this another way he expresses his dominance. Truly appreciate watching your lessons.

[@ashleywilson1115]

Great video! A common problem and such a nice fix from Ryan! Thank you for sharing!!

[@debbiepalmblad7627]

brilliant trainer and teacher, thanks for this video!!!

[@davidgabel2271]

Lots of words

[@stardust949]

What an absolutely stunning horse. I do love a dapple grey.

[@laurapope4715]

I've had a couple of OTTs. They can be very challenging. They lean on the bit, they are unbalanced as they never turn on the track, and they get no ground work. They also work in pretty much constant pain, which jeans they don't see riding as optimal! She did well to reach out...but I woukd also incorporate some long on the lead walking on trails. Change up his time with you to some relaxed time and add riding. Using what Ryan does with this will help him reset his track brain.

[@lindalape8493]

He doesn't seem to have pain when the rider was on during lunging, so it didn't seem to be a pain issue. The rider doesn't seem comfortable in her seat and hands. Horses sense your attitude. Ryan is so great at this!

[@kayfreeborn6971]

Yes this session has a lot very thoughtful observations & intructions about both horse & rider. I love Ryan's explanations of the psychology and understanding of horses.

[@respectfulhorsemanship]

You make a great point and I absolutely agree. A lot of people say that a horse can’t be “stubborn”, that noncompliance is always either confusion or human error, but as you explained an intelligent horse absolutely can choose to say, “No thank you, I’d rather not”. Mustangs teach you that more than anything I think. They don’t do something just because you asked and they know what you want. They can be totally clear on what you’re asking and what they’re supposed to do and decide they’d rather do something else instead. Now that’s not to say they do it out of malice or specifically to piss us off (even though sometimes it might feel like it lol)

[@wewendela]

I have both kinds of mustangs my Paisley desert OR, mare Tori is my no I don't want to horse and my Stewart's Creek WY, mare Riata is my I can't that is scary horse.

[@jordyn0]

definitely something about the weight of the rider or saddle fit...the horse was going well enough with tack on on the lunge and didn't seem bothered about kicking out, but when she is on him he has the nasty reaction of the pinned ears and kick almost from her weight on him and or the saddle pinching him when she is on. just my opinion and general sight from what i see so far with this horse and rider but also could contribute to the fact of the horse having spine issues as a ex racehorse owner myself and i work with racehorses for a living they are not treated the nicest nor the best unless they are worth a lot or are racing well enough (getting win, place, or show remarks when they run). i could 100% be wrong but this is just what i'm currently seeing through the video...either way this horse is stunning and the rider definitely wants the best for him and for him to succeed!!

[@luv2ride564]

That was so awesome to see the horse make all those connections!

[@gaylemcmurdy2615]

Bravo ! Another very fine videos we all look forward to and One of your extra ⭐️ learning/results episodes.

[@KingsMom831]

Excellent examples of bracing vs leaning into.

[@fragdeinpferd]

Nice training, great job at teaching the rider how to get the horse to cooperate in a fair way.

[@fayecormick7616]

What a great video and seeing the rider and horse respond so well. Well done!

[@jarjar0653]

Great video. Great progress! Beautiful work and horse! ❤

[@ryanrosehorsemanship]

😃👍

[@quest4knowledge768]

PLEASE do more videos like this I have a TB mare that has similar problem with connecting with human leader instead of tracking to anything else. Will walk right over the top of you until you get agressive back then corrects but only short time and start all over. Only no problem going forward.

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

Looks like a back/hip issue. A chiropractic adjustment is a good place to start. And maybe an equine massage. Its always good to rule out physical problems. Ryan always does an excellent job.

[@61Paul]

You're an excellent trainer, Ryan.

[@dianahoneycutt1869]

I love you explaining the why. Me working with my hubby's new horse 😂.

[@kathleenjantzen5387]

Wow. This is my grey ottb exactly! The kicking out, being pushy w rt shoulder & the tuning out!! I learned so much for a better different way. Btw mine has worked better w verbal cues vs nagging him w/my legs. I also figd out a tap or touch on the shoulder produced less meltdowns!

[@Zoe-fg7gg]

This was phenomenal - I really enjoyed this session :)

[@jeam073]

I really hate to be this guy, but my horse who was diagnosed & treated for kissing spine last fall had pretty much these exact same behaviours before he was diagnosed. It was exactly as the owner said, once he was moving forward he looked and felt amazing and didn't buck, bolt, spook, or anything! We really thought he had ulcers and got rads of his back kind of on a whim and we were shocked by the diagnosis! I don't disagree with working with the horse to overcome the behaviours as we had to do a little bit of that with my horse after he had surgery as he was still a little "stuck" expecting there to be pain when there wasn't. It took time to undo those behaviours but that could ONLY happen after he was treated and pain free! I'm not trying to say with absolute certainty that this horse has kissing spine by watching a single video of it, but this horse looks soo much like how mine did before his diagnosis, and I wish there was someone around me who had seen that before and could tell me when I'm saying now. Even if this horse is not in pain, it's always worth checking first as horses usually don't do these kinds of behaviours without any reason.

[@calista1280]

That may very well be why he was laid up for a year under vet care! I'm sure she told Ryan what his medical issues were. Ryan is very tuned in to a horse's comfort/pain level. So don't worry, he's in good hands!

[@jeam073]

​@@calista1280I did really enjoy watching this video. First video I've seen from Ryan as it was just recommended to me by KZbin. I do think it would be a really valuable piece of info to know if this horse was treated for a specific condition and the behaviour is lingering as a trained response to pain (even if it is no longer there). I think it would give more context to viewers about how the issue was completely addressed, but ultimately the horse seemed like it really responded well to the training.

[@kathlynterry8196]

This was fascinating to watch.

[@juliahelene7130]

MORE CONTENT! Btw, great video. I`ve stopped using Netflix and am just watching your instructional videos. One day I'll cross roads with a horse and boy I'll be ready!

[@kristinaburkhardtzakariase4722]

I really like your explanation here Ryan!

[@Tenebrisvis]

Cute horse! Love seeing the light turn on when they start to understand!

[@corneliajanzen8626]

Thank you both so much for this video. My horse does the same same thing! Finally I know what to do. This video is a great help!

[@anneflynn9614]

After reading many comments,I would trust what Ryan has to say.The results speak for themselves. He really knows what he is doing!

[@atsavvy6.0]

Love the ABI arena drag.

[@rogerwoodward6479]

A rider that listens! It looked like great progress. Thx & Rgds ^RW (Novice)

[@dsantos21100]

Wow great work. I love the instruction of slow down with the going through the steps. I tend to do the bing, bang, boom let’s get it done. Ryan you do such a great job of explaining. Like I said before, I need a little Ryan on my shoulder whispering in my ear. And I’m a member. Always watching.

[@janetcameron4743]

He's beautiful... reminds me of the late, great, Arrogate, who died too young. Definitely have to start with whether the horse is introverted, or extroverted. I think I learned that from you, Ryan. 😁

[@KK-mm8ms]

He's not in pain he's learned to do this going into the starting gate. Very common problem. They learn to get behind the leg, flatten out and balk. He not mean but he has learned to say no. I bet they do great a little down the road

[@KarinBolton]

The trainer is amazing!! I noticed early on that the horse was totally not paying any attention at all. I have owned 3 mares in the past. He was staring away as if he could not care less. But near the end of the film he was incredibly more focused. Personally this is a dangerous habit and I would not ever keep a horse that did this. As a trauma nurse if he kicks her once really hard it could be horrible, it’s sad but I once paid a professional amazing rider to Find me a horse and the horse she sound me was amazing!!❤That way you avoid buying a horse with bad colic or leg issues. Best money I wisely ever spent buying a mare!! I wish her lots of luck. I prefer half Arabs crossed with a good Quarter horse. The beauty and intelligence is awesome!!

[@Rosebud65]

I’d love to see an update on this horse.

[@youarethecreator]

I have been making comedu with horses and in that work you see very clearly, that horses read our vibration and what we really want and mean, they do not follow our words if we don't mean what we say. F.ex. I have been shouting for my hotse "gallop gallop!" but I wanted him to lay down, so he was going down.

[@AndiRose21]

He’s just stunning!!!

[@marciamcgrail5889]

...the horse isn't bad, either x

[@AndiRose21]

@@marciamcgrail5889 Touché

[@MichelleLeVar]

Ryan-I really enjoy watching your all videos but I strongly wish you’d do a whole video all about “Bringing your life up” and “Bringing it down” as I believe THAT to be equally if not more important than all the other aspects you teach. Every aspect is vital for communication between a horse and their person on the ground and on their back. I’ve binged nearly every video of yours on KZbin over the last 2 weeks (I’m not a Patreon member yet-maybe you explain it more there?). But I get the idea that the concept isn’t fully understood, or may has different meanings to different people? (Maybe even my understanding of those words are different than your own?) For me I’m always working on communication with my horses and I use every aspect of myself when working with them. I’ll try and give a short example here… (without sounding too crazy) while walking, if I want my horse to begin a trot in 5 steps, the first is I see the trot in my mind and when/where it will start. I feel it first in my core (tummy) firming, lengthening that feeling and it spreads up to my shoulders that square and stretch, down to my heels that flex and elbows and hands that prepare. I’m not rushing my horse and haven’t given any physical cues to my horse other than “prepare for a transition”. When we’re at the spot to trot I ask my horse with a light squeeze (barely a cue) and it happens. Since he’s done what I asked I relax my energy to a ‘continue’ level’ and my horses maintain that trot throughout changes in direction, and as long as I ask him to maintain with my energy-no cue reminders. If I wanted to canter it would be similar, or lead changes. When I want to stop I can bring my horses down from canter-trot-walk-stop by lowering my energy (still mind/visualizing first then taking my life force down) or a sliding stop without taking in the reins. I learned to ride when I was 9 yrs old on a very sensitive Arabian, and there was no money for a saddle so all that learning was bareback. If I’d ever even squeezed my legs he would’ve taken off like a rocket. (The most sensitive horse I’ve known in 47 years) He was the one who taught me to ride, no humans helped me. It was just him and me in a huge field. Those early years was when I learned how huge my thoughts and energy levels affected him. I’m 56 now and have owned horses ever since that first one. I think I understand horses much better than people. These days I have 2 Mustangs than I mainly ride bareback and bridleless. Sometimes I use a neck rope, but what controls my horses is the energy I use, and how my energy affects them. And the bonds I’ve made with them, the trust we share. My horses and I are very close friends but I’m definitely their leader and safe space. They’re extremely respectful and have super manners. I believe some riders and horses struggle because they don’t realize the energy between them and how to understand and use it. “Bringing your life energy up” and bringing it down are really a huge key to success and you’re the only trainer who always mentions it in almost all your lessons. I applaud you for that and hope you’ll talk and explain more about it in the future. Even if I’ve gotten your meaning wrong, I think the idea you have is similar? You’re doing SO much good in the horse world, it’s wonderful you’re able to help so many horses and people. Thank you for all you’ve done and will do!

[@gaileverett]

Yeah I have no idea what bringing your life up actually means.

[@mizroyalsan1351]

My mare used to not want to go forward when I put my leg on. She would pin her ears as well, so that first thing i did was check for pain. I was worried she might have ulcers or something. Turned out that was not the case! It was just her saying no. Now when I ride her she has little to no responce, depending on her mood. Really cool to see you work through this!

[@anniedarkhorse6791]

It's good to see lessons with non-Western style. I'm an Aussie. Makes me feel included. ;)

[@deniselawrence7491]

Your training skills are amazing!

[@donnas6941]

Within the first 5 mins, you can see this horse needs a Vet...! Rear right...look at the leg...!!

[@JoE_Songs]

absolutely love it. what a great psychology

[@valorienyenhuis9383]

Fantastic video- very informative!

[@sandrajenkins6822]

ECVM - Equine Complex Vertebral Malformation - formerly known as The Congenital Malformation of the 6th and 7th Cervical Vertebrae in Horses.

[@jaynfontain6635]

the rider needs to get help to close her fingers, soften her arms, get weight out of her seat and into her leg, and get more balanced over the same.

[@lauand5803]

Take xrays of the cervical region (c1 and especially c6/c7)and ribs (t1/2), this behaviour is well known with ecvm horses.