HORTEN 229 - Nazi Uber fighter of WW2

[@antoniobrignoni3722]

They should restore the Ho229 and send it to a German aviation museum

[@Abbeville_Kid]

Or... to the Smithsonian as intended.

[@hashteraksgage3281]

@@Abbeville_Kid it was stolen from its country

[@Abbeville_Kid]

Jose Antonio Gonzalez del Campo it was a weapon of warfare and spoils of war. You don’t get to start a war resulting in mass genocide and then cry about losing your toys afterwards.

[@offdeadeye88]

Nowadays Germany would destroy it terrible culture preservation right now in Germany

[@sixgaming2315]

offdeadeye88 after the war when they knew the end was near they wanted to destroy as much technology and equipment to prevent it getting into enemy hands

[@davidpost6164]

They keep saying Germany had superior numbers but really they had superior quality. Germany was nowhere near as big as the allies or Russia. They fraught an enemy ten times their size and still did incredible.

[@peterson7082]

+David Post Define "superior quality'.

[@corbinshepheard8395]

@@peterson7082 Uhhh Better tanks aircraft, Higher quality troops and equipment and tactics and strategies and better tech. They didnt have enough of any of these though that was their achilles heel.

[@peterson7082]

@@corbinshepheard8395 Not even remotely close to being the case.

[@corbinshepheard8395]

@@peterson7082 Yea ok then explain the casualty ratio pro allied dude and explain why they had the jets before us and had the first rpg (the panzerfaust) before us first assault rifle (MP-44) before us explain how we almost lost the Battle of the Bulge even though they were supposedly weak (besides the weather) and explain how come in almost every fight they caused more casualties on the allies side Then we did on theirs. Hmmm?

[@peterson7082]

@@corbinshepheard8395 They had the first operational jet fighters, though the British _Meteor_ saw combat first. The concept of the assault rifle was not a new one, its just the first of its name. The _panzerfauste_ and _panzerschrecke_ were actually created to counter the American "bazooka" when the Germans first encountered them in Soviet hands (via supplying Britain then to the USSR ). The casualties suffered do not match up with your claims. What nonsense are you on about?

[@Supermagicbatman]

SUPERIOR GERMAN TECHNOLOGY

[@ShengTheCraftsman]

i madly in love with this plane

[@Proot.entity]

Me too!

[@spottydog4477]

That courageous pilot was Lieutenant Erwin Ziller,......... Ziller flew the bird on the 2nd and /3rd Feb 1945...unfortunately a minor landing accident releated of the braking chute early delayed testing. 18th Feb, Ziller flies again for about 45 minute before an engine failure at low altitude gave him no time to ejecthe was thrown clear of the plane but died on impact....

[@chaz3821]

I built and flew a model to see how it works (see v=EWWKs5wR8QQ). It's definitely fast for the power. But it has a very serious yaw stability problem. The lower wing tends to swing forward in turns. The wing sweep does stabilize it but it's slow and does yaw back and forth a few time. If you bank hard it becomes quite extreme. If the high wing engine were to lose power it would be definitely very bad. I'm guessing that's what happened to the first test pilot.

[@pepecohetes492]

Precisely one of the reasons the YB49 was not deployed (multiple accidents as well did it in), it had inherent instability problems which have been corrected in the B2 bomber design, as computers continuously monitor stability and make real time changes, something the previous flying wings lacked.

[@szaki]

The first flight of the N-9M occurred on 27 December 1942 with Northrop test pilot John Myers at the controls.[4] During the next five months, 45 flights were made. Nearly all were terminated by mechanical failures of one sort or another, the Menasco engines being the primary source of those problems. After roughly 22.5 hours of accumulated flight time, the first N-9M crashed approximately 12 miles (19 km) west of Muroc Army Air Base on 19 May 1943. The pilot, Max Constant, was killed

[@keisernoname2865]

the key was also that German fighter planes only had 15min of fighting gas left before they needed to return. That explains why Germans lost many bombers over England and not so many fighters in comparison

[@marmin29]

B-2 bomber is actually the Horten Ho 229

[@peterson7082]

No

[@marmin29]

@@peterson7082 yes it is

[@peterson7082]

@@marmin29 you are confused

[@pepecohetes492]

Not quite: the Mosquito's propellers are not invisible to radar and that alone would have generated a radar signature; granted the airframe was probably very low radar cross section, compared to anything flying at the time.

[@TrotzdemDeutsch]

The Me 262, Me 163, Ho 229, Ar 234. The best and most advanced fighter jets in WW II !!! All of them Made in Germany! But to less and to late^^ Because of Hitlers and Görings incompetence! (Remember that the first Jet Fghter - the Heinkel 178 - flew in August 1939!

[@CharleyDeppner]

Annie Jacobson's book "Area 51" suggests the Russians also captured a Horten 229. Then, subsequently, piloted it remotely with two genetically altered "little people", crashing it in New Mexico and resulting in the whole "downed UFO" legend. The goal being to cause panic similar to what occurred following Orson Well's War of the Worlds broadcast. I am trying to get my head around that one.

[@twobluehorses]

I'm suspecting the "game change" would have been an atomic bomb on Berlin.

[@princereyes2094]

Friend: How are we going to school again? Me: I'll call an Uber. Friend: Okay, so a cab then? Me: Why use a cab?

[@TheBlopNC]

The hoten brothers lived in the war on a farm, which i can see out of my window.

[@ghostdiaries369]

Cool

[@peterviceroy9800]

The biggest factor in the air war in Britton was not radar. It was the fact that the German code was broken! This enabled the English to have every available plane in the air and not caught on the ground by the Germans Luftwaffe. Radar was not needed. It was only a backup as the allies new the Germans plans in detail beforehand.

[@pepecohetes492]

You are nuts.

[@peterviceroy9800]

pepe cohetes I'm not nuts. My parents had me tested. Read the book, The Ultra Secret. It's well-documented history today. I stand by the claim.

[@TheDemon190]

Peter Viceroy sorry your very much mistaken radar won the battle of Britain decoding the enigma psyphers won the ground and sea battles

[@peterviceroy9800]

If I'm wrong, then tell me how many British planes the Germans caught on the ground and destroyed in all their bombing efforts. The facts prove I'm right. Britain knew exactly when the Germans were coming due to the breaking of the German code.

[@LeoAndRas]

There's some specialists that talk about sabotage in the case of Ziller's death... I would love to see a Horten's plane flying, as was done not much time ago with Me-262 with Northrop f-5 engines...

[@Barenziahlover]

Wood doesnot show up too well on radar compare to metal. The US Navy in the last 1960's was fireing by acient at than wooden boat as radar show there was no other ship or boats in the fireing range. Plus than 2.5 minutes reaction time they fighter would appear in time to stop the attack they have no computer or modern computer network back then.

[@bluefalcon7782]

I've seen some photos lately from those aircraft restoration for US aviation museum. I suppose, after 66 years it's finally obsolete enough :)

[@oudeiseimi2724]

I believe that the Germans knew about the British RADAR, and destroyed most of the towers early in the Battle of Britain. The Brits had a manual spotter system that they used, after that. The Horton 229 was like the Spirit stealth bomber -- not a fighter. The Horton would not have been very maneuverable, compared to the British fighters. And the Horton would have been "too fast" to deal easily with the slow Allied bombers. The technology of the flying wing is very interesting, but the match up of this technology with the Allied gear is a bit more complicated.

[@pepecohetes492]

Incorrect; the Home Defense Chain radar suffered only one tower destroyed, and amazingly, it was back in operation the next day. The Nazis did not understand the extent to which Air Command had developed a system of tracking and ranging attacking aircraft. The Brits never used a spotter system as a primary system, I do not know where you got your misinformation. I suggest reading "Most Secret War" by RV Jones or "The Invention that changed the World, the history of Radar".

[@peterson7082]

The 229 was no more stealth than the D.h. Mosquito...

[@danielborisov6892]

No audio

[@leneanderthalien]

The Horten 229 fly at debut 1944 and was not a fighter, only a unarmed prototype and was NEVER use in operations: was only a reseach aircraft for developpement of a future long range high speed bomber, the deam from Hitler...

[@edsonfontanelli8158]

My congratulation ' Friends horten '.

[@matthewmanza8476]

No dude the horton 18 was supposed to drop the nuclear bomb the Horten 229 was suppose to be a fighter and bomber but the horten can't hold that bomb but the horten 18 could because its the bigger version search it up

[@matthewmanza8476]

because the plane had pros and cons but in the Nazis final mission they where going to raid USA but then they get raided by soviet and also USA so it was called off by Nazi officials and Adolf hitler.

[@luukas2660]

+jaydee040 the germans did have a nuclear program and would have been succesful in completing a nuclear bomb before the allies if the would have not destroyed all the heavy water factories in norway. look it up american

[@grayhamcane6330]

In fact, the V3 was such a completely different aircraft... it was really a long range gun !!!

[@medzemouli1709]

Why you don't say horten229 after years becomes B1and B2 spirit ?! .

[@peterson7082]

Because they didn't

[@olemann77]

and 3 years after the capture of the Horten facility... America shows off their first stealth recon plane.. looking very very very very similiar to this.... go figure ;)

[@shrekniteyt4325]

olemann77 b2 spirit

[@fritzfieldwrangle-clouder7299]

What stealth recon plane was that 3 years after the capture of the Horten facility?

[@gcjgcjbdjgdjhfxbvxhcx6704]

No its not, its in the us airforce museum

[@IMaDEM0N]

yeah, but there was a problem; my grandfather was a Marine in WWII he went to IWO Jima & Okinawa... he had buddies who were US Airforce...I brought up the fact that Hitler's jet fighter could've changed the war in front of one once...he said all the Nazi's did with the ME-262 Fighter Jet was Crash the fucking things, Nobody was able to fly them because they were Aces at flying their propellor planes...They didn't know what to do with a Fighter Jet.

[@PeterGrenader]

Sorry... the Horton was NOT a fighter, it was a bomber designed to deliver a nuclear bomb to the Eastern Sea Board. It was commissioned after the Horton brothers ahd successfully flown earlier glider versions as their bomb development was in its final stages and the jet version had a 5000 mile range.

[@Theeternalziggy]

you're wrong. it was a fighter but they made plans for a long range bomber too. :)

[@carlemonade]

It was a jet fighter...

[@carlemonade]

***** 30 mms cannons,..

[@carlemonade]

***** It's a Stealth Fighter, experimental has not got any weps, but the provision plane then got x2 30 mms cannons.

[@carlemonade]

2x30mms cannons...

[@Triforcefff]

@LottoWinner999 Battle of France Allied forces: 2,260,000 casualties Germany: 163,650 casualties the military genius of the germans can not be doubted. Battle of the Bulge Allied forces: ca. 90000 Germany: ca. 70000 though the germans were again heavily outnumbered overall aftermath of ww2 Allied Forces: Military dead: Over 16,000,000 Axis: Military dead: Over 8,000,000

[@Wolfen443]

SOMEONE, PLEASE GET IT OUT & LET IT FLY!!. I know that by now it is only a prototype that created our modern stealth planes. But, it deserves the chance to be seen flying still.

[@twobluehorses]

@nethead4223 Germany declared war after Pearl Harbor not because of US aid to the Allies.Nazi justification for invading Poland was the Gleiwitz incident staged by the Nazis. Is your justification for Nazi atrocities that it was OK because the US did similar 100 years ago? I'm glad you brought up my country's evil treatment of the Indians. I've been wondering if people in Europe are still "ethnically cleansing" parts of the Balkans as was so recently common.

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

We got a lot of 229's.

[@nethead4223]

The Hortons also had flying wings since 1933. The first patents on flying wings had been from Austria (1905) and Germany (1910). Thats 24 years before northrop even started developing. And the point here, concerning the Ho 229 is, that its the first flying wing with jet propulsion. Developed from partlly from scrap parts during the war and long time before northrop came up with its first yet driven wing-design. And now stop bitchin.

[@celsobigliazzi2564]

Linda nave . Homens e engenheiros de altíssima intelectualidade .

[@doctorwho956]

Did I hear right at 0:23, the Americans gave RADAR to the British ...???

[@spottydog4477]

no he doesnt say 'The Americans'

[@pepecohetes492]

Incorrect; the Britts developed radar in parallel with the US and Nazi Germany.

[@jasonbrewer6317]

You are welcome.

[@jasonbrewer6317]

lol!

[@twobluehorses]

@nethead4223 Germany invaded Poland. Britain declared war on Germany due to treaty obligations. Germany declared war on the US on 11 Dec 41. US foreign policy is often misguided but it isn't based on the whims of one "infallible" leader with specious ideas about race and dangerous emotional problems. BTW, the US didn't enter Texas in 1846, it began the war in Mexico. Texas was a sovereign nation having freed itself after Santa Anna revoked the Mexican Constitution of 1824.

[@allgood6760]

Cool plane!

[@alwoo5645]

that ware house it where the keep the arch of the covenant 4:15

[@tthompson2538]

Al woo , you mean the “Ark of the Covenant”. That was my first thought too.

[@spottydog4477]

we'll..............IF the HISTORY CHANNEL said it'd true, then it's just GOT to be true....true?

[@happaala]

Why do almost all of you americans end or start an argue with insults?

[@KevinJKtheman]

@rodolfojoseluis That's as maybe, but the Germans didn't win did they ?

[@nethead4223]

@twobluehorses With the US delivering weapons of mass destruction for killing german civilians to russia and UK the US had been undoubtedly part of the war. In contrast to you germany did declare war as the US should had done before participating in the war. You might ponder what would happen to any nation delivering only one bomb for attacking the US. right. About the "justification" u know nothing. Your country did attack Irak and Afghanistan and now is going for Iran.

[@fluffy1931]

@AndreHiltre ,..and unicorns.

[@edsonfontanelli8158]

EUA and Vikings are Friends.

[@MAllen-ng8pl]

" they find one of Nazi Germany's most advanced weapons made entirely out of wood. Later, they were to discover an even more advanced weapon called a 'Nazi space station' also carved out of wood."

[@spottydog4477]

yeah!

[@Anmatgreen]

I think the NG's and BBC's animators are getting more and more lazy.

[@schwanzelstock1071]

I think people are finally being honest about the reason of this war.......... It was to steal German technology and that's why Hitler wasn't German they needed a narcissist from Austria to do it. Lets face it Germans are smart when it comes to engineering but when it comes to selling or sharing they are horrible so there was only one way to get it.

[@paulfortune8244]

ah ah ah. it wasnt to little to late. maybe to late, but by no means to little

[@twobluehorses]

@AndreHiltre Racial superiority is a delusion of weaklings. "Inspired leadership" didn't occur. Hitler had the emotional maturity of a spoiled, vicious school girl. He flitted from one master plan to another. Therefore Nazis could never devise a coherent plan for winning the war they started . Name an "advancement" of the Nazis that hadn't been thought of before the war. As far as advancements udreamt of since that's simply hyperbole.

[@fluffy1931]

@AndreHiltre lol

[@Greggee100]

Stingray

[@MrPHAELAN]

no need to spread fairy-tales.