Horus Heresy Audio: Misbegotten by Dan Adnett

[@purvicious]

"I'm ready to die now. I have no wish to live in a galaxy with thing like you loose in it" Lmfao

[@excell211]

The imperium: *use genetic engineering to make super mutant humans and even forcefully use humans as machines* Anyone in the galaxy: *does the same thing* The imperium: 😡

[@ABorderPrince]

Exactly

[@randombencounter263]

I love how indigant the scientist is. "No, I make people into *art installations*, I would never dream of turning them into soldiers, what is wrong with you?!"

[@ABorderPrince]

lol yeah was fun to read

[@WASDLeftClick]

He’s kinda got a pint though. Yeah living art installations made of people are messed up, but engineering a person into a weapon? Isn’t that much the same? Physically perfect, but mentally incapable of many of the things that make us human, knowing only war throughout their artificially long lives, what kind of life is that?

[@AnIdiotsLantern]

The fact that we can debate this at all is really interesting. Because objectively, Horus is a "good" misbegotten, especially at this point in history - he's brave, he's kind, he's level-headed, he's respectful of other cultures, he's good to the people around him. He really does embody the dream of a humanity united, exploring the stars in safety and peace. Meanwhile, Fo's creatures are amalgamations of nightmarish whimsy, random assortments of parts put together for funsies. There's a lot going on here. A kind of form vs. function, high concept art vs. utilitarianism, and whether or not it's moral to create living beings the same way you'd craft a tool or a weapon. Horus is clearly different from these art projects but how is slippery and hard to define.

[@Saurophaganax1931]

@@AnIdiotsLantern Horus is different from these art projects in scale. Yeah he doesn’t have a million eyes and mouths and weeping sores covering his body. His monstrousness is not so immediately obvious. The monstrousness of Horus that Fo is referring to is his pure, raw, superhuman ability. He is a Demi god made real. A being not just designed for war but designed to shake the very foundations of the galaxy to its core. That is what horrifies Fo so much.

[@arclite2008]

Thanks, your content makes enduring the trial Nurgle set upon us so much easier.

[@ABorderPrince]

hope it helps

[@rogaltriggs4704]

Hey we can beat grandfather nurgles trial.compared to other chaos gods I'll have to say bio warfare is warfare nonetheless but don't worry about it as nurgles cowardly way of waging war and its the warfare of a little bitch.

[@AnIdiotsLantern]

Nurgle is the ultimate anti-vaxx, anti-masker

[@redasylum]

He wasn't the first to say that Astartes were monsters that would burn the Galaxy in unending war.

[@ABorderPrince]

this is true

[@Nortic111]

32:24 'Said Horus, rising'. A nice little nudge and wink to fans of the first Horus Heresy novel, also written by Dan Abnett.

[@Thommy2n]

Horus: You turn human beings into monstrosities. Fo: As a hobby! You're the scientific monstrosity flying around the galaxy destroying countless worlds.

[@ABorderPrince]

Yes

[@connorcmsmith4302]

I'm sure foe and fabulous bill would get along swimmingly they could compare notes

[@ironstar183]

Fabulous Bill 😂

[@ABorderPrince]

if only

[@andersingram]

Like this one. Takes a monster to see a monster.

[@ABorderPrince]

yeah is a classic

[@GreatGreenGoo]

I love reading/listening to all the different human cultures found during the Great Crusade. It has almost infinite capacity of content

[@mikey2time484]

Scariest thing is they kept the guy in a obbliette cell for decades.. jesus christ

[@renbergps]

I had read this a couple of years back. You did it justice, good sir. Thanks as always.

[@notabotpromise5654]

So interesting. He knew the emperor!!

[@ABorderPrince]

yeah man

[@robinderoos1166]

He sure was old and mad enough...

[@AnIdiotsLantern]

Not only did he know him, he basically said he left earth because he knew he and Big E would disagree on the artistic merits of his work!

[@joshuahendricks9558]

Horus really was one of the best of the Primarchs. It makes the heresy all the more tragic.

[@auricstorm]

Honestly, I don't even blame him...I blame Erebus. If Fulgrimdemon sword/painting, then I'm fully prepared to believe after Horus got stabbed with the Anatheme he wasn't actually in control (Magnus even says as much when he tries to psychically warn him in Snake Lodge)

[@Btk4813]

So good I had to listen too it again. Casts a new light onto Horus and now I wonder how it would have been if he never fell to Chaos.

[@ABorderPrince]

True true

[@corvusscottwilliams4751]

My third listen lol.

[@eichler721]

Love this and stories like it. I hope after the Heresy we get a more stories like this. The writing is amazing.

[@OfficioAudiorum]

Ah, this was great!

[@ABorderPrince]

cheers man

[@MikeP5830]

Yooo cool to see you here

[@agentorangecb1]

Omg!!!! I was thinking Tyranids and got super excited but it sounds more like Chaos from the variety of weird biomechs... Thank you Border Prince. Great story and narration - I understand now why Dan is widely considered one of the best

[@ABorderPrince]

yeah defo top tier

[@timwhite5562]

That was a great story. Toenail shielding? Isn't there a some mythical ship in Norse mythology built completely out of toenails? Maybe it's was something older; bronze or iron age, I'm not 100% sure but I definitely remember something like that. You don't forget visual of that easily.

[@theVulcanGuy]

Naglfar, built from the nails of the unworthy dead.

[@timwhite5562]

@@theVulcanGuy even from super models: gross🤢

[@andilucas6926]

Another absolute belter - this anthology is really impressing me so far. I eagerly anticipate the next story! :)

[@ABorderPrince]

defo worth picking up

[@davidk6269]

My Good Friday was made even better with another ABP WH40k lore upload! Thank you, and happy Easter!

[@ABorderPrince]

hapy easter

[@chuckthomas1872]

Thank you great stuff indeed !!

[@ABorderPrince]

cheers

[@19platten20]

As I said in different video comment sections: we need an fan made audio play

[@ABorderPrince]

maybe in the future

[@jamesdegraw1490]

Another great job Prince I really liked this story Horus with mercy is a well needed look into his nature thx!!!

[@ABorderPrince]

cheers

[@AnIdiotsLantern]

That's something that stuck out to me - this Horus is a really GOOD GUY. He's bringing people into the Imperium with offers of humanitarian relief, technology, and protection. He's being respectful of other human cultures, he's supportive and kind to the people around him. He doesn't WANT to hurt anyone if he doesn't have to. This is Horus at his most optimistic and benevolent. At this moment he really does embody the dream of a united Humanity traveling together into a future of peace and prosperity. None of this changes the fact that he was created to be a weapon of war.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

@@AnIdiotsLantern Horus Rising gives a good look at Horus before Erebus fucked everything up. He really was a good guy, thats what made his fall so tragic, even when they met the Interex, Horus stood firm against calls to wipe them put because they were friendly with Xenos. False Gods pissed me off because the writer made Horus an arrogant selfish bad tempered dick from the start, even before he was poisoned with the Anathame, basically the opposite of the Horus we saw in Horus Rising, I think if they had kept Horus as the likeable guy he was up until his corruption at the hands of Erebus it would have had even more of an affect on the story.

[@AnIdiotsLantern]

@@stevepalpatine2828 I think if they had known how long the series would last they wouldn’t have had Horus fall by book 2. And really, I always thought the way they did the fall, where Horus doesn’t turn against the Emperor because of what he thinks are ideological reasons but because he got stabbed full of warp juice and left alone in a room with Erebus was a cop out. I really thought Horus Rising was building up to something else. It’s too bad.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

@@AnIdiotsLantern Yeah you get it. Horus Rising had him with serious doubts about the fanatical position on Xenos after meeting the Interex, and had him doubting the Emperor would have wanted them wiped out, now if they had pushed that story further, and had him maybe forced to destroy a peaceful human civilization _on the Emperors direct order_ because they'd got friendly with Xenos like the Interex, it would have sown the seeds for a very reasonable break between them, and left you wondering whether Horus wasn't actually right. Seriousky they should have left the Warp fuckery stuff to the Word Bearers, amd then maybe only had Horus join Chaos down the road, perhaps after realizing he didnt have enough to beat the Imperium by himself, making his "Fall" more akin to that of Magnus, who really had no other choice. They missed a big chance to make the Heresy much more complicates in motives than just "Horus is bad now because Erebus"

[@horuslupercalaurelian1569]

If only Sejanus didn't die to the technocracy, Imagine how different everything would have been, he'd probably have avoided the heresy

[@cgavin1]

Nah. Sejanus would have been put in charge of achieving a diplomatic resolutuon on Istvaan V.

[@horuslupercalaurelian1569]

@@cgavin1 No, don't forget, he was the better one of the four Mournivals in most aspects, he was more balanced even in combat, even Abaddon liked him for that. Horus made his first great mistake by sending him as an envoy unarmed. If Sejanus was around even Horus would have stayed loyal, that's how badass Sejanus was. Loken being a Badass himself didn't think he could fill in the boots

[@iamalpharius9483]

My GOD Horus was an ABSOLUTE BEAST!!!!! And even with all his power, godlike prowess and killing capacity, The Wolf King and Sanguinius were still more dangerous.......Primarchs had to be the most powerful weapons of war ever made even by the GODS.

[@t.schramm1045]

How u know? Russ and Horus never fought in a 'fair' duel, roight?

[@t.schramm1045]

Russ himself says in Wolfsbane that he was never sure if he could beat Horus (note that he also thinks he could easly beat the Lion,dangerous Hubris). I took from that that they never actually fought without cheatcode-Spear or Warp-Juice

[@ABorderPrince]

glad you liked

[@iamalpharius9483]

Russ fought a Warp Imbued Horus and almost killed him. Without the Warp Horus would be wolf turds in 20 minutes.

[@t.schramm1045]

@@iamalpharius9483 russ had cheatcode spear

[@carolheward6479]

That was really good. I enjoyed that. One of the best for a while now.

[@monkeylugz]

Many thanks again brother !

[@ABorderPrince]

cheers

[@adamfox1669]

Thank you brother! Great. Have a great weekend

[@ABorderPrince]

cheers you too

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

I'm just listening to Horus try to justify this chaos stuff as normal, and I can't help but feel sorry for him. Good writing.

[@leepatterson2051]

That was the DOG'S BOLLOCKES well done I really enjoyed that, great work I look forward to more

[@Falsh125]

Horus was such a nice guy that his sudden change always felt too contradictory. Angron had more than enough reason, predisposition, and even some justifiable cause behind his hatred, but Horus... Horus was never predisposed towards the kind of atrocities he committed!

[@stevepalpatine2828]

Thats what I didnt like about False Gods. McNeil made Horus an arrogant short tempered asshole from the start, even before his corruption at the hands of Erebus and his Anathame fuckery, when not six months before Horus had been a great guy and standing firm against calls to wipe out the Interex because of their Xenos collaboration, it was such a rapid character shift it felt clumsy.

[@praetor9822]

@@stevepalpatine2828 I think that the fall of the Interex was the first domino. Horus was starting to grow overburdened, Erebus continuously pours venom in his ears, then he gets struck with the Anathame, and it's all downhill from there.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

@@praetor9822 Yeah it's just it was done so fast it was clumsy. The HH series is over 60 books, and Horus's fall took only the first two. There should have been at least 5 books with Horus slowly changing under the pressure of being Warmaster, maybe at first doing something pretty messed up out of necessity to save lives, and then each time it getting a little easier for him to justify crossing that line, instead he was a great guy who anyone would follow into battle in Book 1, and between Horus Rising and False Gods he turned into an arrogant, short tempered, preening asshole. Even Fulgrim handled Fulgrims fall with more subtlety than the series paid to the Warmaster, Horus just suddenly started acting like an insecure petty asshole out of nowhere, it was fumbled, they had the chance to make it a truly epic and tragic tail of a son coming to betray his father and his principles through corrupted ambition and very real criticisms of how the Emperor handled things and ham fisted it because they wanted to get the big set piece battles.

[@battlemountainforge3063]

You do awsome work. Skål

[@ABorderPrince]

cheers

[@TheRealBelisariusCawl]

Typical Horus. Shoot first, shoot second, shoot some more and then if theres anyone left interrogate only to as why the sap didn’t bow before his greatness. Did my brothers labs get specimens of this archeotech? No. Did my brothers get custody of the scientists? No. Did Horus do the responsible thing and ship off the labs full of archeotech to the mechanicum? No. *sigh*

[@lynnusuk2092]

I mean I don’t know why the ad mech want them anyways isn’t the flesh is weak?

[@TheRealBelisariusCawl]

@Lynn USUK Ahh, listen again good adept. The constructs were *cybernetic* in nature. So not only would the adeptus biologis welcome the chance to study the creatures- so would the rest of the Mechanicus. That is if that egotistical traitorous psychopath hadn’t just gone and blown everything up, again.

[@ABorderPrince]

LOL nice!

[@maddlarkin]

I honestly can't think of anything more terrifying than letting the Ad Mech get their grubby little Mechandrites on this tech... Something's simply need destroying

[@creolekolbytv]

Horus is actually one of the more thoughtful and less brash commanders. He considers before deploying his wolves and seeks council from multiple members of rank under him. He is such a great tactician and commander in fact that his entire legion had his respect sometimes more than the Emperor himself as we all know

[@jasonlmorris1]

Thats the best one yet.....well done

[@docvaliant721]

Reminds me of somethings made from humans and evil spirits in the brent weeks novels. The night angel trilogy I think its called. Rly gruesome. Like a certain set of movies that I dont want to recall.

[@hope121107]

Oh how great that was.

[@ABorderPrince]

glad you liked

[@t.schramm1045]

"They are extreme xenophobes" 🙈🙈🙈 Oh the hypocrisy

[@ABorderPrince]

haha yeah nice touch

[@JohnTandy74]

Brilliant and beautifully orated 👌🏻

[@thomasalegredelasoujeole9998]

Your voice works GREAT for Horus and his court !

[@Vineor]

Based 40k enjoyers

[@carminedesanto6746]

Sounds like a “Beware Of The Qu “ crossover 😱

[@scambonehambone7655]

My favorite period in history. Mid crusade. Pre heresy, white armor horus. Emperor still on campaign. Some legions still seeking their primarchs. The absolute apex of the human race.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

I used to hope after they finished the Heresy series we'd get an in depth look at the Unification and Great Crusade, but since GW went woke I no longer trust that they wont fuck it up.

[@threatassessment216]

Thank you !

[@Btk4813]

Thus, it is the 5th time I've listened to this. checking in.

[@ABorderPrince]

lol

[@JBobo-qd4eh]

Awesome reading, good story

[@Duppyman695]

I claim this comment in the name of the WarMaster !

[@HenchmenNo616]

*slams Helspear into the screen* ... aw crap not again.

[@ABorderPrince]

heresy

[@botinface53]

More hardcore stuff, I agree...

[@JurgMudveins]

Blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne, carrots for the Sterling!

[@racspartan1]

Excellent Narration. Great story choice.

[@markharrison543]

This was so good.

[@MrGeneralissimus]

Last couple stories were exellent! ps. Is there a story about fight betwen Chaos Marines and Tyranids? I'm curious abut "shadow in the warp" fucking with warp magick and stuff. Chaos vs. Necrons would be nice too.

[@ABorderPrince]

errr nothing springs to mind butsure i seen stuff. mostly chaos vs genstealer stuff i think

[@fortyforts4436]

This one was really really good

[@reforgedrole-playinggames1035]

Thank you so much for all you do.

[@ABorderPrince]

cheers

[@Carnalpain]

Very interesting! Foe was there before the Emperor wiped out religion on Terra. How the hell did he live for so long? I know about rejuvenation treatments, but I admit I do not know much about them and how long could one survive with them being done over and over? So many questions! Thanks for the narration, man! Always have your reads on while I'm making terrain or painting!

[@Awesomotron2k]

He was a genius Gene Engineer, probably one if the first things he did was make himself immortal. Or maybe he used cloning. The Dark Age of Technology is basically unlimited in what humans could do.

[@Mikey1951ful]

Outfrigginstanding!

[@ABorderPrince]

cheers

[@GenjiBG]

Enlightening indeed :) and amazing!!!!!

[@markokrsmanovic2562]

Excelent.

[@nedyse7200]

My Liege !!!! Horus to Sejanus "With me !" sounds like Python's "Run away !!! aprox 26:30.

[@ABorderPrince]

hahhha

[@rija6669]

Awesome pre heresy story!!

[@halfdanragnorsson4121]

"ide like to die now" ha ha haaa funny that!!

[@Genubath1]

TLDR; "I told you so"

[@ABorderPrince]

lol

[@pfave101]

So weird hearing my brother's name, Basilio, since it's so rare. In the US anyways

[@chaddixon5725]

Good one.

[@lynnusuk2092]

So what ever happened to foe?

[@ABorderPrince]

forgotten probably

[@joevines3428]

@@skywatcheradept Thank you i want to read that now.

[@BrowneramaDmD]

Haven't you done this one before? Great story still.

[@BrowneramaDmD]

@@skywatcheradept realised after clicking on the other video 'emperors architect' that I must have read this collection of short stories before. My bad.

[@ABorderPrince]

like skywatcher says its one of the best

[@duppyman9025]

Total noob question Im new to the channel, new to the lore any advice where to start? Duppy said I would like and he's not wrong!

[@ABorderPrince]

Check the playlists section man it’s all organised mostly lol

[@scambonehambone7655]

The horus heresy series from black library is more or less the origin story. The first few are absolute gems.

[@robinderoos1166]

Start in this order: horus rising, false gods, galaxy in flames, the first heretic. The rest is pointed out in the book list on the first couple of pages

[@Brugrebbla8]

AborderPrince is actually a princess

[@ABorderPrince]

LOL

[@robinderoos1166]

Or perhaps both at once, with pincers instead of arms and one boob?

[@leadschattentro4299]

"Vulcan died on Ullanor!!!!" *shoutbox*

[@Awesomotron2k]

He got better.

[@maynardshellie6897]

would foe still be alive or rather is he human

[@colossalbiff3514]

18:31

[@atsukunisumeragi1967]

Abnett's Emperor : let's find a better name than Crusade, I haven't read Guénon "Le Symbolisme de la Croix", so I don't know what that means but let's go with "common sense" from 28 Thousand years ago or so. BL : Legio Custodes are not meant to be army of conquest. FW : special rule Crusaders for Custodes and Emperor's Children. GW : put Crosses on Custodes armours, and make them do everything better than Space Marines. Modern "lore" has too much nonsense in it. Horus is awesome though in that story.

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Ahh horus speaking of others errors... how amusing. Pot meet kettle lets be friends.

[@ABorderPrince]

well exaclty

[@spacecowboy8663]

571

[@MrHouseparty6]

-1ea

[@darrianweathington1923]

🤣 xenophobia huh, imagine that...

[@thecaptain7106]

I just saw an advertisement that said the n-word yet a youtuber says fuck, its the end of the world.

[@BarockDroneBomba]

Star Trek sucks!

[@ABorderPrince]

LOL!

[@jonhahn6557]

It really threw me off at the end when you said "bloody brilliant" I personally did not like that story.

[@jaks334]

If possible have less spit in ur mouth, having alot is old trick of sounding like old person, but better if you dont.