Host Triple Slide Out Truck Camper and F-550 Flat Bed -- 5 Pros and Cons of Our Truck and Camper

[@bob_frazier]

We eat ever meal in our booth, play games there, and enjoy the view from it. Funny how different folks have different tastes.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

We have since started using it more. We just had to find somewhere else to put all of our stuff

[@bob_frazier]

@@millersmonstrosity3419 That's "the window" that I try to put the best view outside of. Glad you like your camper, big investment there, and priceless memories too.

[@samuelstewart2762]

i like your setup i've been toying with the idea of a truck camper paired with a used f550 bucket truck to get all the outside compartments as storage seeing your triple slide means possibilities exist great setup you got there

[@portnuefflyer]

All the separate lighting switches is a good design, when if off grid and trying to conserve as much as possible. Perhaps a master switch, combined with the separate switches, would have been the best of both worlds.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

thats a good point. makes alot of sense

[@philborchelt5396]

You should immediately replace stock lightbulbs with LED bulbs. DO NOT buy them from Camping World or other RV shops. You can find them on Ebay for less than $1 each. You could light up your entire camper inside and out and pull less electricity than just one or two incandescent ones!!!

[@sams7655]

Tire storage is genius!

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

Thought about it for a while and one day it just clicked!

[@bradridgeway5686]

Thank you for sharing this! Our Host Everest will be built next month. Honestly we have no idea when our F550 will show up though. Your video sure does get us excited!

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

It was a long wait for us as well! The bed company took longer than anything. You'll enjoy it once it is all together!

[@Mark_E_Essiembre]

Awesome RV. Love the 550 as well.

[@paulhudson8321]

Nice looking camper and that’s a great setup. Host campers have a nice layout I was looking at them but settled on a Lance. We just ordered a 2022 Lance 1172 their largest model. Won’t be delivered until perhaps March next year to our dealer in Canada. We traded our 2008 Lance 992 in on it. I agree about the versatility of a truck camper. With 4WD we can go more places as we prefer to boondock as well as maneuvering in parking lots, roads and highways. We went new so we could pick the interior colours and options like solar power, lithium batteries and a tankless water heater. Lance make a great camper and it’s the little things that can be very annoying like door latches and drawers guides fittings and trim where some companies cheap out.

[@jamalmcgrath810]

The biggest mistake people make is to make sure you buy the lagest truck, if you want a roomier space. Also , there are many types of trucks out the. Get one with the largest payload as possible. One that has a what's called floating suspension , install airbags with proper air in them to balance the load, 4 wheels (a dually) in the back also helps balance and stability. Good luck !

[@philborchelt5396]

@@jamalmcgrath810 I'm not aware of ANY truck that comes with a "floating" suspension. They are almost always an after-market add on and are very expensive!!!! They are SWEET though!

[@Zekerose]

Thanks for your honest opinion!!

[@garyebendorf4479]

You sold me on 550 size. Great set up. I'm going to copy your ideas. Thank you.

[@kirksway1]

have you ever thought about getting a grill guard with the spare tire mount on it?

[@jamiemitchell1539]

Great review!

[@TimBiagi]

Now that's a very sexy setup

[@jamalmcgrath810]

I have a 2011 Host 11.6 Everest triple slide. The constant complaints are the are to short to narrow doorway, couch leg rest too short. Simple thing is they were built for smaller people like me. I am 5"-6" no complaints. My small frame fits fine. There are few options I like to change. But over all this serves my dog and ma fine. I have gone to off grid camping, no problems. I like your toolbox on the passenger side, and the sliding draw in your rear storage area. Other wise I really like my unit.

[@Richard-s5x7o]

The slide in footage 👍

[@nightmarewolf658]

I love the Mammoth.... the king size bed and easy access from both sides has to be my favorite feature. The 22 models have a better solar package & accordion door system for the bathroom now too. But I'm bummed that they took out the window by the rear slide. We have been researching all options, truck camper, travel trailer and 5th wheels for quite sometime now. Although the amenities and living space on a 5th wheel are wonderful, we feel it's just too big for the travel we want to do. So we're weighing the pros and cons between tc and tt. We like the mobility of the tc and the no worries with towing, but the access to the essentials (i.e. bathroom and fridge) during travel is a huge con. I guess a Walmart or Cabela's or any big parking lot would work in a pinch but just not always convenient compared to a road side rest stop. Decisions, decisions.....🙄🥴 I appreciate your video and I hope you find time to enjoy yourselves in the near future. Happy trails and good🍀luck!!

[@walking_man]

Accessing the fridge or bathroom is in no way an issue. You just have to press a switch for a few seconds while the slide deploys and then you'll have full access. Also, the Mammoth still has the large rear window. If you don't see it then you're looking at a Host Yukon or Host Everest.

[@mikesbobcatservicesllc-mic6927]

Host campers are 188 ft feet a trailer without slides is about a 195 ft at 28' long. It's huge. Also a Ford 450.works great. Don't use air bags just go to a spring shop and they can put a spacer at top of spring then you'll be back to factory level.

[@gerardhaubert8210]

This guy is the only one I’ve found who recognized that you need a 5500 series truck to adequately haul a mammoth

[@walking_man]

We had our Mammoth on an F450 with Torklift overload bumpers and Airlift 7500 airbags and were quite pleased with the handling and driveability. By the way, this review is not of a Mammoth. It is the Everest model.

[@philborchelt5396]

@@walking_man I haven't looked at F450 specs lately, but I will bet money you are overloaded with a Mammoth if you have a crew cab and diesel. Overload bumpers and airbags may level the ride but they DO NOT increase payload capacity. Insurance companies are totally aware that many truck campers are overloaded and are just waiting to deny ANY accident claim you file. Police are also stopping truck campers and checking weight. Luckily I was fully legal. Trooper had given 7 "operating an unsafe vehicle" tickets (which require a court appearance) to truck campers in the last year. HUGE fine and vehicle/camper can be impounded!!! I see people carrying Mammoths and other multi-slide campers on 350s/3500s. I GUARANTEE you almost every one of them is overloaded!! I have an International CV (basically a Chevy Silverado 5500) and LOVE the excess capacity I have! Cheers!!!

[@walking_man]

@@philborchelt5396 Hi Phil. I appreciate your reply. The only thing I disagree with is when referring to multi-slide campers you said "almost every one of them is overloaded." I would have said "definitely every one of them is overloaded." Including mine. Our Mammoth on an F450 was about 1,000 pounds overweight. And most likely more with all the stuff we had not only in the camper but in the crew cab as well. The main reason we chose an F450 over an F350 was the bigger brakes - about an inch bigger on all the disks. We knew adding airbags and overloads would not increase payload. We did it mainly so we wouldn't be the a..holes with the headlights shining in everyones eyes. Nevertheless, the truck handled the load just fine. An F350 and an F450 are both class 3 trucks rated at 14,000 pounds. The F450 in reality will handle a bigger load with the bigger axles and brakes. Still, the only way to be sure is to do like you do and get an F450 chassis class 4 (16,000 pounds) or an F550 (19,500 pounds). We've learned a lot after having a Mammoth on an F450. If we were to do it all over again we'd consider the same, but would put a little more time looking into an F550. It would be interesting to find out what axle, suspension and frame differences there are between F450 and F550. All we learned about the F450 came from our own research since every Ford dealership was totally inept at providing any guidance or knowledge. Just for fun I'll ask a dealer salesperson, and then their sales manager during the follow up, if an F350 or an F450 carries more in the bed. "The F450 or course" is their answer until we look at the payload chart and see the F350 carries 1,200 pounds more (although not really, only carries about 200 pounds more when configured with diesel and two batteries and two alternators as the F450 is). I wish there was a way to send you my phone or email in private. I'd love a phone conversation with you about the benefits of your CV.

[@ranchgal3006]

Love the truck! Lost me on the rear slide. Especially in rain.

[@brentacusmaximus6677]

Thats odd because I AM more interested in that bad ass super dizzle 550 ! Freakin sweet man. Oh and yea those triple slide campers are amazing these days.

[@williamakifer]

I'm building a silverado crew cab 4x4 flatbed and wondering what tool boxes those are mounted under the camper? Also purchasing the Host Everest.

[@robertcampain612]

Thanks for the info!! A truck camper is high on my bucket list- you’ve got a fantastic setup!! Enjoy!!

[@medjoolmaker]

sweet setup! how much you have into this setup truck and host?

[@moosehunter1426]

Sorry- watched full video and you already answered my question about tire

[@moosehunter1426]

Does your spare tire mount underneath the cm alum. Flatbed? What if you had a ford cab and chassis auxiliary fuel tank, would spare tire still have a home? Thanks in advance

[@philborchelt5396]

How does the truck ride with the camper on? I just bought an almost new International CV (Chevy 5500). Pretty stiff unloaded. Haven't had a chance to mount my camper yet (Lance 992) since I just got Covid!!! Great looking set up! Thought: your front tie downs should be slanted more to "pull" your camper forward. Your's are too close to vertical. Same with the rear tie downs. Small tweak but it will be much safer.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

The truck rides very well loaded with the camper. I am actually still trying to figure out a better tie down setup as I agree I'd definitely like some more angle on them but the bed rails don't allow for it

[@larry9]

Questions. , what is you combined GVW w/ camper and truck, what is your Mpg. W/. And w out the camper?

[@silki24]

how long is the whole rig in total (truck with camper) and how wide ? thanks

[@manolocalifas6488]

Love your boat, can you show a video on it!!!

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

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[@nia6849]

What is the F550 insurance cost?

[@David-kj8zi]

I know you said you had 9 foot bed. Do you think a 11 foot bed on longer truck and same setup would cause any problems. I would like the extra space for more storage. Thanks in advance

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

I don’t see that causing any problems. You’ll have a gap behind the cab and the camper. Be a nice place to put some cabinets

[@David-kj8zi]

Thanks for input. Planning on 5500 with kelderman air ride. Planning on it full time and think the extra room would be handy. Makes it a little longer but still better to get to those off the main drag attractions than pulling anything behind you

[@tomschuette6133]

Why didn’t you go with the Yukon and spec it with the theater seats and the wardrobe storage vs the dinette. You have a very nice camper but think i would have gone with the Yukon unless I am missing something.

[@donaldkersey9416]

Could you give a round about numbers of the truck set up and camper.

[@thirdquarteradventures6777]

Great video.... I'm configuring a similar set up. I believe on a prior video you mentioned putting a custom bumper hitch on your CM flatbed. I'm assuming this was to get either a 2.5" of 3" sleeve to accommodate your hitch extender. Is that correct? If so, what hitch did you with (B&W model?) and what hitch extender did you go with? I'm also interested in the spare tire attachment you found that works well. Thanks for posting - super helpful!

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

Correct, had to do a special order with CM so I could have a 2.5" receiver instead of the standard 2". It is still a B&W which is what CM uses. The hitch extension is a 48" reese. I cute it down to 41" which takes you up to 7500 lbs of towing

[@thirdquarteradventures6777]

@@millersmonstrosity3419 Thanks!

[@joedoak3478]

We took our dinette out and put in recliner theater seats

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

That wouldn't be a bad thing to have!

[@celestepalm6949]

@@millersmonstrosity3419 Guess I'm the only one who actually likes the dinette. Love the U-shaped rear dinette that comes standard with the Host Yukon but you wouldn't know that the way everyone else chooses the theater seats option. For me the dinette doubles as an office - with a great view to boot! Great job on your flat bed.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

@@celestepalm6949 I can see how looking out that window while working would be a nice view!

[@unclebuck5051]

Do you clamp that camper to the rub rail along the sides? I wouldn't think they could handle it.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

I do, its 1/4" aluminum welded in four corners and seems to take the punishment pretty well.

[@unclebuck5051]

@@millersmonstrosity3419 Thanks

[@garyjones5093]

Can I ask what you get for fuel mileage with this setup? Looking at very similar setup. Just curious

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

About 10, maybe 11 if not towing anything

[@alonzodesantis6989]

Nice truck and flatbed how long is that flatbed going to get an Eagle Cap 1200 when I can afford it can't wait

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

THe flat bed is 9'3" minus 9" of fuel tank in the front

[@WheelinwiththeWendes]

Just replaced our 3500 with a 5500 for our Mammoth and already have the Supertruss. Since I have nowhere to mount the spare underneath, I want to mount it to the extension like you did. Was that a kit or did you DIY it?

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

I just grabbed a few larger u bolts, washers and nuts. No kit, nothing fancy

[@WheelinwiththeWendes]

@@millersmonstrosity3419 Thanks! Kinda figured that. You don’t happen to know what size, do you? We won’t have the truck until this weekend and trying to gather everything we need ahead of time.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

Pretty sure dodge uses the same wheel as Ford. Get 5.5" wide u bolts and it should work. I had to bend on out a little bit to get it to fit the holes but it worked. Not sure if you have the double stacked super truss or not but it might be hard to find a u bolt deep enough for that unless you can slip it in between the two

[@WheelinwiththeWendes]

@@millersmonstrosity3419 Thanks again for the help. I’d measure my 3500 dually wheels but that truck is already gone. I have a week with no vehicle (fulltimers) until the 5500 comes in and we’re boondocking near Quartzsite. Uneasy feeling being stuck…

[@Passport50]

I hope you can rewatch this. When you were re-capping the Pros toward the end, you actually said Con.

[@XC797]

Thank you for showing this video. Nice looking rig. Have you experienced any difficulty driving when it's very windy? Looks like high profile camper would be catching the wind like a sail boat.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

The 550 handles it better than you would think. When you look at the rig though you think there is no way you can drive that thing in the wind but it actually isn't all that bad

[@pardefarmeaurx3720]

Cool glamper.

[@jeffreycouch6175]

Where did you order your tool boxes from under your camper and what are size of them. Looking for something for my setup like you have. I don’t have as big of camper so my storage is really small. Would love to see your setup. I live by Cumberland also

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

They came from leonard truck accessories and were described as a wedge cabinet. I can't find them anymore online though. They have worked well for us so far. I actually installed them backwards so the height is 14" I think and 16" deep

[@kentscheel500]

Great info. We’re in the process now. Did cm mount the deck on your bed? We are in the middle of nowhere Idaho and I’m concerned about the finish process. Thanks in advance

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

Our truck was ordered as a chassis from ford and shipped directly to an upfitter who we purchased the bed from and installed the bed. Chances are whoever you buy the bed from can install it

[@kentscheel500]

Thanks! Going to host for a tour in november

[@philsprando3961]

Did you consider mounting spare tire off front bumper? I’m gonna be in the same boat...RAM5500/CMSK. Thinking of ways to not have to muscle around that spare tire while it’s on extension.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

I did, I just really hated to reduce the airflow into the radiator, I'm not sure if it would have made a difference or not but it was a concern going that route

[@philborchelt5396]

I don't believe they make a front receiver hitch for the F550. I just bought an International CV (Chevy 5500) and had to get a local hitch company to fabricate one for me. $900!! But with a 6'" drop hitch, it doesn't block much flow to radiator at all!! Peace!

[@almabranch2401]

How long of a bed did you put on your truck? And is that a cm bed?

[@JinsungVideo]

So you need a 500 series Ram or Ford duality for this beauty no matter what. It’s massive inside!

[@ATVHOBO]

What size trailer are you able to tow with this setup? Ty

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

going to come down to weight more than anything with extension limits. My extension allows me 7000lbs and 700lbs of tongue weight with a weight distribution system. We tow around our boat that is around 30 feet from tongue to back of motor and have no issues with it

[@ATVHOBO]

@@millersmonstrosity3419 ty for the information

[@generalrooter]

What do you do about the plate on the truck?

[@NtoTheM]

Considering the prize of these things the lack of a centralized electronics control system is an absolute no-go and perfectly showcases the company's lack of ability or care to provide the appropiate work for what you pay. A perfect example to judge a book on. If they can't even be arsed to install the tiniest bit of extra electronics for a very basic feature (hell, not even a feature, just a basic thing in every living hold) then that just gotta make you wonder where else they've been saving bucks and efforts on.

[@WADZUP]

The biggest Kano here is how long it takes you to remove the truck from the camper if you need to leave the campsite to go pick up some groceries or some kind of supplies I want to leave the Host behind what’s your experience been with unhooking and reattaching this entire program?

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

Takes a little bit of time but is not difficult. Most time taking part is waiting on the jacks

[@gerardhaubert8210]

How does this rig handle on the highway?

[@vtwinpower1903]

Nice set up brother!.. NOW my buddy was telling me he had trouble with the long hitch towning his trailer would slide n sway. I've never heard anyone saying that, is it true? 🤔 I got a 350 dually with a lance 1161, I wana put a hitch on to pull either my vette ,or my wife has her triglide harley n I ride a bagger, so not a lot of extra weight ,but he got me thinking I would hate to lose any toys!..🤯 have u experienced any unpleasant towing excursions?

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

We towed our 7000 lb boat and didn't have any issues. Couldn't really tell it was back there

[@jeffreycouch6175]

I have chains that I added to mine that limit the side to side away. Have them coming off by where receiver goes in then 45 angle back to my bumper and limits to almost no sway.

[@gerardhaubert8210]

How much and where did the side boxes come from?

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

leonardaccessories.com/product/toolboxes-high-side-boxes-unique-slanted-standard-topsider?sku=UNQ-TBS100-48&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhLKUBhDiARIsAMaTLnHxcl5Tk_qQG_w8ZRuZ1Jw0eFsoc9-LVOAqLlabqPG3Shbn02HUQLsaAr3yEALw_wcB

[@colonel_angus]

Sweet setup!!! I’m looking at an Eagle Cap 1165 on a flatbed. Did you look at the Dodge 5500 or the Chevy? I don’t know much about pickups and really like the looks of the Ford. But I hear the Cummins in the Dodge is second to none

[@philborchelt5396]

Look at the International CV515!!! Basically it is a Chevery Silverado 5500) but with some nice commercial-grade features from International. PLUS, the hood opens forward (like a semi truck) which makes servicing the engine SO MUCH easier and less expensive than Fords or Dodges. Just bought a 2022 CV with only 20k miles for $70k. It has a sweet flatbed on it that would have cost another $10k to mount. Do yourself a favor, check them out!!!! Peace!

[@stephentucker8793]

What's the price tag on that kit?

[@jonathanrighetti5897]

you might like step one truck boxes better?

[@deborahgerardi6994]

Wd40 on you laches helps

[@fin1964]

Host Campers have a lot of Quality Issues and not LED lights?

[@Daddygus]

How much is this whole set up?

[@joaquingerardoruizbravo764]

PUEDEN PONER SUBTITULOS EN ESPAÑOL?

[@katmontgomery750]

You said you went Thur 2 trucks with this camper......what happened

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

The first truck I had planned to use technically couldn't handle the weight based off its rating so we now have the 500 which is the 2nd truck

[@Bmike2375]

Is that a short bed

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

Nope, 9’3”

[@twlyons1]

Have you noticed if your slides are gaping on the top seal yet, we bought a 2016 Mammoth this last April and it is like the tie downs are pulling the under side down and creating the slide outs only on the sides, gap on the top front ends with the seals with full light of 1/4" on passenger side and 3/8" on drivers sides... Iam contacting Host in morning and luckily there just over the hill from us about 150 to 175 miles away but I mostly want to reach out to other owners and see if the same problems are happening as what is ours.

[@philborchelt5396]

Could you be over-tightening your tie downs??

[@twlyons1]

@@philborchelt5396 It was the single roller had collapse in the slide outs, they are on the forward ends of the slide outs and both sides collapse, it is a very known thing with Host, they used 3 - 1/8" self tap 1" long to mount very low on a tall roller mount, I replaced with 5 - 1/4" self tappers 1" long and tossed the 1/2" plywood stick under it with 1/2x 1 1/4" steel squares, hasn't moved a fraction or noted any flexing and the sides have been straightening up some too.

[@philborchelt5396]

@@twlyons1 do you have any pics of the repair??

[@twlyons1]

@@philborchelt5396 , Yes i do, besides the block and floor jack to support, just straight to it they are. Ill attempt to message ya

[@kccarrtheoregonhillbillyhi4803]

Great video but I hate the layout why is your refrigerator on the opposite side of your kitchen...

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

You're not the first person to mention that but it has not bothered us a bit yet

[@jamalmcgrath810]

Don't be fooled, the camera angle makes it look larger than one thinks. The measurement of my Host triple slide is 11feet across from side to side, and slightly larger from bedroom to window behind the couch. Since I am 5"-6", it has one foot clearance above my head. Lots of people showing their model never talks about that, It's very deceiving !

[@walking_man]

The nitpick on the latches is spot on actually. I don't understand why, on an $80K camper, the human interface - i.e. latches - are so cheap.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

I'm glad someone else feels the same way!

[@henrivanbemmel]

Thanks for the update. A lot of us cannot get to a place to see these units and having your impressions is great. How is your mileage with the truck/camper and how fast do you drive? I would rather have a king bed, but the upper wardrobes are nice as well. I have found that ANY recliner is too small for me and now that I am 60 with back problems, I cannot spend too much time in them. However, I was able to find a folding ottoman and I simply sit on the sofa or chair and use that and it works and then you can have storage underneath etc. For us, in Canada, dining outside is an adventure with all the insects. So, for breakfast and even lunch we eat inside. It is just more convenient. We have a nice screen tent that sets up quickly and so we often have dinner out there. What does your camper weigh loaded up? We put a step under our stairs for our class A 35 foot RV. It holds 1000 lbs so it is not likely to break when we come down. Wow !! your slides are really fast. That is really nice. I agree with you I would take the space over moving out the slides. I see folks living in truck campers without slides and it is crazy tight and if you are bigger person, that HAS to get old after a few days. I wish my bank account was big enough to just order a Yukon to spec! Any trouble with your hitch extension grounding out on uneven terrain? I guess your spare could not be mounted beside the gas tank on your truck bed? Do the jacks not retract all the way or are you just saving time? What did the retro on the truck cost you? That you did not use it as much was that due to personal schedules or something with the camper? Thanks again for this. Travel safe. Henri (RVing with Henri)

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

My mileage is around 10 mpg when loaded up at 65 mph. Unloaded I can get about 15 with just the truck. Fully loaded I'm guessing its in the 6500 lb range. Ive bottomed the hitch extension out once on the ground and it took the abuse well! The truck bed is was around 7,000 plus additional for the top cabinets and fuel tank. The jacks do retract all the the way, just saving time for this video

[@ClarkyMalarky]

Take out the dinette build some shelving, take the couch out attach some lazy boys

[@trustme7731]

Completely unusable with slides in. I won't have any RV with a slide if when the slide is in it becomes unusable. In fact I prefer no slides at all. Added weight, mechanics and electric along with roof awnings, operation failures (x 3 in your case) and problems with seals. It's getting hard to find no slides in any type of RV. I don't know if you have 4 WD, but that would be a plus. I'd be concerned about it being so top heavy especially in an emergency driving situation and high cross winds. I'd like to suggest you use a microphone. I'm constantly adjusting the volume. A useful video that Host probably isn't thrilled with.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

The slides definitely do add more weight and possible problems but for us we really like the additional room we get with the slides. Yeah, my audio needs work!

[@repurposedart9897]

Seems like a dually dodge ram 5500 would handle this camper great.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

I would imagine it would be similar to the 550

[@deborahgerardi6994]

The ceiling looks so low inside

[@robreuler144]

I don't like that the toilet is out for everyone to see.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

There are doors on both sides of it to block off

[@chipper7711]

Man, that pretend-tile bath surround is soooo lego / dollhouse. Host can do better in this otherwise amazing camper!

[@terrylarkin690]

Why aren't you using a wide angle lens? I'm a retired Navy Photographer and your not doing yourself any good showing it this way. This is just constructive criticism when a I had my Cirrus Camper one of the comments I received when I photographed the interior was how spacious it looked. I suggest you redo this on wide angle super wide.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

Well if I use a wide angle then I get criticized for embellishing or trying to make the camper look bigger than it is. I guess you just can't win either way. I understand your point of view though

[@terrylarkin690]

@@millersmonstrosity3419 do it both ways criticism in normal I just telling you from my 50+ years of professional photography.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

@@terrylarkin690 I have to say I agree with your POV vs the masses

[@jimdavenport4484]

@@millersmonstrosity3419 I found nothing wrong with the way the video was shot. Your honest option is what I thought mattered most and can say I think thats what you gave your audience. Great video👍

[@HioSSilver1999]

I really don't see the purpose of a tc of this size. It kinda defeats the purpose of a tc. I wish the manufacturers spent more time on making them better instead of just bigger.

[@millersmonstrosity3419]

I get that from most peoples perspective. But for us its still a compact setup compared to our 5th wheel and we can tow a boat with it so its a win win to us. All depends on what you want

[@HioSSilver1999]

@@millersmonstrosity3419 oh yea it's still smaller and more versatile than a 5th wheel. We have a lance 845. I can't say it wouldn't be nice to have a bigger one at times. But overall i think tc manufacturers need to think outside the box a bit more for the smaller campers instead of just thinking bigger is better

[@celestepalm6949]

@@HioSSilver1999 To me, most of the truck campers out there _are_ on the small & narrow side, especially the no-slide ones, which are less woman-friendly. I'm glad these bigger ones exist otherwise I wouldn't consider truck camping at all.

[@HioSSilver1999]

@@celestepalm6949 just my point. They make these big behemoths larger and larger. While at the same leave ALOT on the table for the people that actually want a tc and not a rv. There's lots of stuff they can do to a none slide tc.....like make the damn thing wider. For instance my lance 845 is 93" wide....there's no reason it couldn't be 96 or 98" wide. The overcab area could use a step up roof to have a little more headroom. Stop designing the damn camper around the dinette. They act like the dinette is the most important part. Put the bathroom in the middle of the camper to have some separation of the cooking and bed areas. And make the bathroom be bigger than the dinette.....i need less room to eat than I do to poop and shower. All that could be done to make a nonslide far more functional and livable with little to no added weight. But instead they just want to make them bigger and bigger. No real design going on, for the most part 90% of tc floorplans are identical to my old 2001 845. Which isn't terrible but for the price, added weight these days and functionality the new ones are no better than it is. Manufacters of these super sized tc's are short changing real design for more mass.

[@celestepalm6949]

​@@HioSSilver1999 Everyone has their preferred floorplans. Yes, I'd love no-slides to be wider too - is it legally possible? Like you, I prefer some separation b/w the bedcab & the living area. But I'm also one of those digital nomad dinette lovers, who enjoy the view while working. So, it's the huge TCs for me because I hate wet baths & need the workspace. - Love your step-up roof idea.

[@Stewbular]

Wasted space on sides

[@richardfigueroa3414]

Amigo.. Tu no eres importante para q te muestres tanto.. Solo con tu voz e indicaciones.. Basta

[@Passport50]

TERRIBLE LAYOUT!

[@terrylarkin690]

So I give you 4 Thumbs down on presentation. Sorry