Hot Toys becoming desperate? What’s going on

[@nonametofame]

Shitting on it, but buying it anyway. That's why Hot toys will continue to do what they do.

[@mr.momcollectibles]

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[@gagethent4710]

“This screams desperation.” *pre-orders it lol I’m playing man. I pre ordered it too

[@deadscene1]

this version of the armory is light years better than the cheap looking acrylic one that is coming soon , and this version is a must have for any new collector that love the dark knight movies, this one comes with way better premium armory with a cool suit too

[@ehawk8854]

Why would they not? It’s called business.

[@mr.momcollectibles]

As I mentioned I understand it’s business that’s the obvious I’m just talking from a collectors point of view. Saying it’s business is the obvious that can answer all the decisions they do. Just looking at it from a different perspective but at the end of the day hot toys will do what makes sense for them.

[@stevea8099]

This looks awesome. The only armory I would want.

[@Danoby2]

I was there Gandalf, 3000 years ago. Hell, I still have it! Bought in 2013. Over a decade ago! Haha folks traveling backwards, it's wild!

[@lamcarter]

4:45 …and that sir is why they do it. There’s still collectors like you who will order it cause you didn’t get it the first time. This cost them nothing. Their R&D cost is covered on the first releases so their production cost is minimal.

[@alptanriover9667]

I’ll be honest, they should have done this armoury in the first place. Surprised there is no Alfred though. So we all agree that we will get Artisan TDK Figure in July right

[@6GUERIN]

If they have remade this first..a lot of collectors will have not bought the armory from the DKR

[@ricksfigz]

@@6GUERINI’d be one of them, now I have both armories preordered 😅

[@6GUERIN]

@@ricksfigz yeah..i'm pissed because i've preordered the dkr'one 5 days before the announcement.. Bad timing for me 😅😅

[@ricksfigz]

@@6GUERIN same here, preordered the DKR one days ago

[@GTinez23]

HT is leading from behind right now. You’re right. They are all reaction and nothing new generated on their own. They will stay the king for a while but not forever like this. They need to do something new to capture their own hype.

[@c4v3m4n27]

If anyone bought the DKR armory because they didn't like it but thought this one would never come back are idiots. The two armories are completely different things from different movies. This is like Hot Toys releasing 2 different Spider-men. Do collectors get pissed then? This is a 2.0 of a 10 year old piece. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

[@deadscene1]

this is way cooler than the one that is coming, also is way better paying 600 instead of 900 for the original that is going on ebay lol.also this one have usb power

[@saleen12]

It's so sick, but my god I can't spend that much money. Wish I could

[@martinporter5219]

Its odd the troopers (black & white) w/DS environment, Imperial Commando (BB), Obi Wan (Mandalorian armor), etc were just announced but are already out. The timing of announcements/releasing BM DX19, DKR armory, DK armory 2.0, etc seems odd too. These actions were probably planned at least yr or two ago. HT must anticipate how collectors will respond. Most businesses make decisions in order to make a max profit. The current state of global economy makes those decisions harder. I'm sure on the business side (capital, logistics, etc) of HT there are things going on that we are not aware of. W/that being said its hard to know mindset of HT. Enjoyed your video. Keep up the hard work.

[@mikeecko]

I'm honestly not surprised at all seeing how toys track record for 2.0s Just remember ladies and gentlemen, hot toys is one of the OG's in the 1/6 scale game. Now that this game is massive with tons of other companies even third party companies trying their hand at figures. Hot Toys has been re-releasing figures in the dark night franchise since the MMS version of the TDK suit. Then came the DXO2 with the leaky abs. Dx12 which I have and I'm happy with still. My toys are also released the same armory less than 10 years ago I believe. It's definitely a nice piece. It will all come down to people's extra money and space to display and purchase this. I take it looks fantastic but I also don't have extra money to buy one of these. No space either. I really would love them to visit Batman begins and give us that armory which is like an armoire. But who knows

[@rustybronco]

Missed the first one and this is HT,.once again, trying to undercut competition. Totally understandable but par for the course.

[@a.q.gonzales9835]

Hot Toys is a Marvel Legends high end line 😂... they just kept squeezing what they can with the DC license they have...they could not even get Gal Gadot's likeness after multiple attempt - same with Heath's Joker, if it wasnt for InArt, that Artisan version wouldnt happen...but then its good for those who werent there when the TDK line started - now we have options

[@jermainehaslam5634]

I agree with you Mr. Mom, I wish they would do other things instead Dark Knight it's feeling like the Mandalorian line and they should be more innovative with doing other DC characters like Jim Carrey Riddler or Michelle Pfeiffer.

[@purestewage]

I think a lot of this 2.0 cycle right now is due to the writers strike and lack of new content to make new products based on. Marvel is also heavily slowing down, so I think this trend will continue the entire year, but look for the Deadpool movie and Acolyte show pump out a ton of C level and variant characters.

[@andrewodonoghue3695]

My gripe is it's too much too soon, these sets are $800 a piece CAD. I want them, I will enjoy them, but for the price I expect a bit more, for example, the mouth plates, none!? No other expressions between two of these high end releases? Glad this one at least has a fully articulated Bruce

[@kerwin2k122]

I couldn't agree more to everything that you've said...

[@mr.momcollectibles]

🤙 thank you for the support!

[@mellegasalsexo]

IF YOU DON'T WANT IT... DON'T BUY IT... IT'S THAT EASY... HOT TOYS IS AMAZING... AND THE TRILOGY NOLAN IS THE BEST

[@mr.momcollectibles]

Definitely not the best lol Batman 89 is the best and InArt is king 😂

[@destructoau7526]

All I know is, I’m sick of cheep materials, pleather! A lack or effect RnD, usb and removal of button batteries. A lack of figure completion, Baze Malbus! Regurgitation of Iron Man and Batman! Value for money, not just the same figure released again and again with a different paint job and very few accessories. And finally, and this will never happen but a services and parts supply. Any way, it’s time to start selling before the market is completely bust.

[@mr.momcollectibles]

I agree hot toys misses the mark with soft goods all the time

[@weaponxx41]

Im a big collector I don't own a channel but I know about be a collector and feel the changes for good or bad but looks like is a win win for the ones upgraded the collection and much better for the new collectors.

[@mr.momcollectibles]

Thank you so much for the feedback 🤙🫡

[@jaseys]

The figures are always better and better though. I’m out of the game, but I would also like to see Scarecrow, Alfred, Mr Fox, BANE. Incredible though, TDK was 2008 ? Longevity. Hot toys used to make Military figures, they made a Chris Walken figure, Ethan Hunt from MI2, a Keanu Reaves SWAT figure. At this point I would be more excited to see them remake those figures, or MATRIX figures. If you have collected a while, you have to find other sources to get head sculpts or clothing you would like to add to your collection. It’s unfortunate that it’s a bit “same old same” but it likely sells and it’s a safe bet.

[@CheerfulCroquet-ri8pj]

It deff looks like they competing against JND studios to be cheaper. I had the first issue of this and it was typical cheap feeling flimsy plastic by hot toys. I doubt this will feel any better and it’s a price hike. Still curious if hot toys ever solved the elbow sticking out issue where the pad connects to the gauntlet.

[@smlshin]

I'm in agreement, I prefer Begins out all three. Would have preferred Scarecrow 2.0 and Ra's. Every Nolan villain has gotten a 2.0 since the 2019 Toy Fair Two-Face, except those two. Scarecrow with Cillian Murphy's head sculpt, and non-sculpted/material used Scarecrow mask is a wishlist of mine. Howard and his team doesn't seem to care for Begins. Also to your point about Pfeiffer Catwoman - there's no way in my personal opinion Howard is gonna take the L on that. I personally think he will clap back with his own Pfeiffer - maybe also as an Artisan and to make a further statement he would also deliver DeVito's Penguin. That would put a stomp on things lol. All these companies now one upping each other.

[@mr.momcollectibles]

Great comment thank you!

[@adrianunderwood8642]

Armoury wars has begun! lol

[@mr.momcollectibles]

Begun the war has!

[@ljkelty1766]

I think Hot Toy's main problem in the effective end of the MCU and the utter failure of the DC movie universe. 80% of their releases are Star Wars- related. As a SW fan I don't mind, but it's just too much stuff. And they do have some serious competition from companies such as InArt, SooSoo, and Mars Toys as 3rd party cos have seriously upped their game recently.

[@mjoshwil]

I'm here just wanting a George Clooney Batman. Imma pass on this armory, I already PO The Dark Knight Rises Armory. I do want the Bruce Wayne tho.

[@mr.momcollectibles]

Justice for Clooney! People talk shit but I know people would preorder that no doubt!

[@mjoshwil]

@@mr.momcollectibles Exactly!

[@karascrow]

They will never do a Batman Begins armory. Hot Toys shows no love for Batman Begins and it’s the best Batman film ever made. It’s a complete joke. I love the Keaton films, the first one was the first movie I ever saw in theaters. Batman Begins is just perfection though. I had to go and spend a whole lot of money to improve the most recent third reissue of the Hot Toys Batman Begins figure and I’m probably still not done spending money on it, to be honest. I really want a head that has multiple faceplates and moving eyes, but the OT Customs head seems rather difficult to get. And I’m hoping one gets made out of actual pvc or plastic.

[@adrianunderwood8642]

2.0's/3.0's just devalue their own product, bit silly! Pleased there is competition, HT's has become arrogant!

[@bennobenny750]

Hot toys are just reactionary at this point. If it wasn't for the other companies entering the market, we would still be getting variation of iron mans.

[@mr.momcollectibles]

I’m always for other companies coming into the collectible game because at the end of the day more options for collectors is never a bad thing, but it is interesting to see how hot toys response to some of it. I won’t lie.

[@neileriffic]

Good discussion. Not surprised nor disappointed in this announcement. Ryan, you ask why do we have this? I'm with you wanting something different but I think the answer is a lack of (good) DC content to make from to keep their DC license and market visibility active - courtesy of the writer/studio impasse (same with SW, Marvel, etc. with those HT releases) and studio-head changes. Seems HT has little option but to revisit previous figs that sell worldwide and the data I've seen says Batman is the go-to. There are also newer collectors to appease. Luckily, I don't have the DX19 or other armories, so I'm in on this (though I'm not new to the game).

[@weaponxx41]

I saw this video and I collect since 2006 the 1/6 scale and I own the first armory and now we get a new one but you have to understand the first one came out years ago and now we get a lot upgrades like example M3 the first one when came out every one was happy and if you read the comments in that time be like this is crazy we get last year the new M3 I own it too and I'm really happy this not a trick from HT they know the money is waiting and they give us the chance and election for buying or not but the know is new generation of collectors the ones want the old ones they are missing but upgrade...sorry buddy but your video and the tittle is attractive but you talking nonsense.

[@mr.momcollectibles]

I appreciate your comment and feedback and thank you for watching. If you have watched me for a while I have made multiple videos on my channel explaining why 2.0 are a good thing overall and that from a business perspective, it brings in new customers who will ultimately buy more than pre-existing collectors that have curated Collections already. My issues with this piece is hot toys just gave us another one and it’s too coincidental with other manufacturers, putting out things that it is triggering hot toys to be more reactionary than putting out quality pieces that actually means something. as I said in my video, I did in fact pre-order this but it’s an interesting situation and I’m just being honest with my reaction towards it and with many of the comments on this video it seems people do feel the same way that it’s something more reactionary seeing as we don’t even have the other armory in hand yet. At the end of the day, I say this multiple times they are business and they’re going to do what makes the money to keep them in business, but just from a collectors point of view, it looks more reactionary than anything else. 🤙

[@jamesla1015]

Man I loving the videos, I have hot toys and enjoy them but nothing makes me feel better than Hot Toys super fanbois get angry 😂😎

[@mr.momcollectibles]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@batmmannn7775]

None of any of this crap is a must have.

[@Lawz1993]

actually it give whoever dont have the 1.0~ You dont need to own every one piece of batman. Maybe it for people likw me who just join HT colection 3years ago, I do need one of this and it USB powered. I cant get the 1.0 because the price is expensive on aftermarket Since here alot is your fanbase, soon I gonna be bombard with hate word.

[@xesspectre6441]

The solution is simple. If people stop buying these hashed, remake, re-imagined, and RECYCLED figures like these then Hot Toys is going to stop making these GARBAGE FIGURES! The fact that people rant on it but still buys it is normal that Hot Toys is going to milk it. It's a simple Law of supply and demand

[@somersfamily]

Garbage figures you say? Hmmm ok and oh, no the 2nd time that they did this armory in like 10 years 😆 it's simple don't buy it if you don't want it or need it.. It won't be hurting hot toys at all. But sorry you don't see the difference in the one from how ever many years ago and this one .

[@xesspectre6441]

@@somersfamily Yes Garbage Figures. You have a problem with that?! If you like this Recycled, Redundant, figures good for you, go have a cookie. But most buyers are fed up with the same recycled, re hashed figures over and over again. And like what I said if you don't like it don't buy it and support it. It's that simple. You only repeated what I said. It's people like you who always buys and supports Hot Toys that's why Hot Toys became LAZY and UN CREATIVE nowadays.

[@somersfamily]

@xesspectre6441 hey sorry I didn't read all that but yes I do want a cookie I like chocolate chip and sugar cookies and I only like that from Publix. Last I do like recycled figures and so does half the community because not everybody had the money back then to spend four to five hundred dollars on a Batman Armory . Bye cupcakes 🧁

[@somersfamily]

@xesspectre6441 the only thing hot toys is lazy with is the f 99 iron mans and spidermans, starwars every month, but hey to each their own and if they are so fed up why is everyone buying them? 😂 stop, and I got offended by the garbage comment and saying this is the same. I bet if you were a fan you wouldn't be talking like a child with the come backs you made all cause I said don't buy it and It won't be hurting them any. This is completely different from the one from 10 years ago. Rehashed bodies I have the old ones and compared to the new figures their night and day difference . If you don't have the money for it, it's no big deal keep collecting iron man and trooper figures . 👋 ( Again, only publix cookies I want and they have to be sugar) look how simple my 1st comment was compared to what you wrote, people like you is what's wrong with this community. So negative and rude. Now 🚫

[@xesspectre6441]

@@somersfamily I don't have the Money? I have more Hot Toys than you Jabroni. You don't know whom you're talking to. I'm only saying the truth that people are fed up with redundant figures from Hot Toys. And I'm one of them but the difference between you and me is that I'm smart and you're too dumb that's why you still buy and eat the crap figures that Hot Toys shove in your simpleton peasant throat. It's not my fault that you're stupid and dumb. And why get triggered by my comments are you Hot Toys lawyer. If not you shut the hell up and mind your business. And I ain't your bro cause you're dumb down Zombie Sheeple of Garbage Figure of Hot Toys. In short I'm smart and you're dumb down stupid. I'm royalty and you're only a PEASANT CLOWN!!! 💩🤡🤣 Now go back to the basement and eat your freaking cereals Jabroni!

[@Batdad77]

As I said, this IP needs to be put on the back burner from all companies. You want to do reissues/2.0 give me other licenses so I can update the figures from 10 years ago.

[@mr.momcollectibles]

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