Hot Toys vs Jazzinc 1989 Batmobile 2.0! A grail and a trash?!

[@jamestheredenginefan5268]

I swear... every 89' Batmobile I get I have to make a damn trade-off... orange headlights or no black rims?

[@dtuk22]

There's always a bigger fish. In this case a bigger Batmobile..... with a matching price tag too

[@SOScollector]

So true! Not to mention the extra $500ish for tax and shipping.

[@JustinMcFly1980]

Cool review 🎉congratulations on your Batmobile

[@SOScollector]

@@JustinMcFly1980 Thanks Justin, really appreciate it. This batmobile is fire!🔥

[@MRD_RC]

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[@SOScollector]

You're so kind. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it.

[@Priscillia281]

For me Hot Toys based themselves more on the Batmobile from Batman Returns than the one from Batman 1989.

[@SOScollector]

@@Priscillia281 I think so too. In returns, the dials also didn't light up. And the paint looked similar to HT.

[@felipegomez6729]

I've been after the Hot Toys One from the beginning and CLIMBING WALLS in Excitement I finally got one 🥰

[@SOScollector]

@@felipegomez6729 congrats to both of us then! 😁

[@figureitout-em4sn]

At 04:15 as the light runs up the panels of the jazzinc I see lots of dents and blemishes on it, especially above front wheel arch

[@SOScollector]

Yes I saw that too. HT being in the game this long must be better at minimizing these kind of issues. Jazzinc has flaws, but still looking really great with the paint, all the details inside the interior and all. Both are welcome in the collection, but the space and the wallet said I gotta choose one. 😂

[@JazzIncdioramas]

if you want to address the ‘mold issues’, there are three options: 1) charge twice the price and take a dozen more hours of filling and sanding per vehicle. Add more layers primer, paint and finish and polish. Adding a few month to production. 2) increase the price less (than twice the price) and make all separate parts for the side panel and accept bigger alignment or panel gap issues 3) hugely simplify the side mold in detail, curves and accuracy like hot toys chose to do. Pick your poison

[@SOScollector]

@@JazzIncdioramas I do understand this Joost, and to me those are minor issues, won’t devalue all the great things, all the accuracy that’s been made. I love the more accurate curves, the green tint in the paint, those are simply beautiful. I just wish you could make KITT in the near future, that’s also my childhood hero car.

[@figureitout-em4sn]

@JazzIncdioramas I'll take a straight panel every day of the week. We all have our individual likes and dislikes, I love the accuracy over the HT. However, for me, if the light hits the panel on my display case and the panel ripples, I'd cringe every time. Imo that front wing in the video @04:15 looks like it's been in a fender bender. Cockpit looks amazing. I'd suggest lose the shin breakers, discs, smoke, turbine, ( who use's them?) spend the time on the panels.

[@carrettironan1165]

Hot Toys chose to paint it flat black to hide all the eventual defects. The accurate semi-gloss finish of the Jazzinc can’t hide them. Semi-gloss finish reveals everything. Look at a real car painted in that way and you will ever find something. Even the real car used on set wasn’t probably 100% perfect IMO.

[@geewunder1171]

The Jazz Inc is probably worth the money. But it's more than twice the hot toys when you factor in shipping and rewards points. I like the 89 Batmobile - it's my favorite Batmobile from all movies - but I'm more of a comic book guy, and the Hot Toys definitely scratches that 89 Batmobile itch more than adequately, AND still leaves me enough left over for three more hot toys figures or my in art Aragorn and a hot toys figure 🙂 But if you're an absolute 89 Batman fanatic, yeah, I mean the Jazzinc is clearly the better unit. And for more than twice the money, it better be.

[@SOScollector]

Nice points. HT is a great representation of 1989 Batmobile.

[@Transfixed]

Wouldn't "A Grail and a Fail" be a better title?

[@SOScollector]

Thanks for watching. Do you think the Hot Toys one is a fail?

[@Transfixed]

@@SOScollector It's very nice but a few things bother me, like the front end shape and silver wheels.

[@joeleeper214]

Question, how much did she coast ? Thanks Joe. Did U say 5oo Buck's

[@SOScollector]

@@joeleeper214 the preorder price was $750. But I got mine from a local seller for $500.

[@andrek2180]

Thank You for showing the bad body on the JazzInc. Reviewers have been dishonest or downplayed the defects. Also the guns also are not going to be fixed but instead JazzInc has stated that they are lining the gun cavity with velvet which of course over time will wear and again the guns will fall and not stay in position. Its vital buyers need to know that JazzInc just doesnt care about them and has no problem with shipping them known and continued defects.

[@SOScollector]

@@andrek2180 I didn't catch the velvet thing for the guns. Good things that people have option for the 1989 Batmobile.

[@andrek2180]

@@SOScollector what options?

[@SOScollector]

@@andrek2180 there's Hot Toys and there's the Jazzinc version.

[@mr.momcollectibles]

Well I'd like to think I've been as honest as I could be, since my footage was used in this review so I guess that means something.

[@SOScollector]

@@mr.momcollectibles yes, I credited your channel in the video, used short footages from your video so that I could give my honest opinion on both, based on what I saw on your review. But, mostly I was showcasing the HT 2.0 that I just got. Your review is by far the most honest one I could find, you explained the good and the bad of it, showed super close up shots so that we could see the details on it. And to be honest, I love both products, and I envy you for having them both in the collection. Congrats to you for those grail pieces!

[@joeg8954]

$1800! No thanks

[@SOScollector]

For some of us, it's gonne be over $2,000. The tax is crazy expensive here.

[@J0r-El]

Both are great, but JazzInc is the better depiction.

[@andrek2180]

Why does it have to have dents? Unacceptable.

[@J0r-El]

@andrek2180 If you're a buyer or thinking about purchasing it, I can understand why you find that unacceptable with the big price tag. But I bet not all of them are made that way.

[@andrek2180]

@@J0r-El yes JazzInc has clearly stated all of the bodies will be defective and not change. They then went on a gaslighting campaign to state for them to put out an acceptable product they would need to increase the price dramatically which means they'd charge their customers extra to fix their own mistakes. You lost that bet.

[@J0r-El]

@@andrek2180 Those were most likely the test batches.

[@andrek2180]

@@J0r-El ARE YOU STUPID? READ THE COMMENTS!

[@maverickslb80]

So… the front nose was silver all this time?

[@SOScollector]

People said that it is the correct color. I didn't notice it before in the movie. But, the drooping shape's definitely more accurate.

[@JazzIncdioramas]

Yes sir. Dark gunmetal silver

[@henryluthor]

@@JazzIncdioramas Actually no, in the movie the front nose or "bullet" is black like the rest of the vehicle, it's the ONLY pet peeve I really have with the Jazzinc batmobile, I wish they correct it, other than that it's perfect.

[@jorxav02]

@@henryluthor SO you was on set when the movie was made? Or did you have a hand in painting it? Jazzinc has the license genius they know what they are doing.

[@henryluthor]

@@jorxav02 so Hot Toys didn't have a license? Or more importantly, do you have functional eyes? You don't have to trust me or Jazzinc, you can make your own research instead of being pedantic.

[@JazzIncdioramas]

You do not have any of our 1989 Batmobiles and used footage from other KZbinrs without permission. That being said the canopy alignment will not be present of the actual production version.

[@SOScollector]

As I said in the video, those were already addressed by Joost, and the silicone for the canopy will be included in the next batches. In fact, I praised your product without trashing one another. For the footages, I credited the youtubers in the video (because I didn’t know them really), and they were like a couple minutes in total.

[@kalibkadafi7747]

​@SOScollector I don't think the jazzinc moderator actually watched your video or they wouldn't have said that in the comment. You said nothing negative at all. Both are good options for collectors depending on choice.

[@SOScollector]

​@@kalibkadafi7747Appreciate your kind words. To be honest, I love both versions. No need to trash one to admire the other.

[@andrek2180]

@@JazzIncdioramas but that melted dented body will continue to deface your product as you just don't care about your customers or your reputation.

[@shugghead8538]

The jazzinc version is a museum piece, the Hot Toys is just that, a big toy.

[@ChuckM0503]

Just because the Jazzinc version is more accurate and has better details, at a higher cost, mind you, doesn't make the Hot Toys version just some cheap toy. Whether you have the HT or Jazz version, they're both impressive eye catchers. Of course, the Jazz version ticks more accuracy boxes over the HT, but I don't think that takes anything away from the HT version. You get what you pay for with both. You want the most accurate batmobile that really gets into the nitty gritty and has all the bells and whistles? There's Jazz. If you want a more economical option that was mass produced, isn't quite as accurate, but still looks damn good and impressive in anyone's collection? You got the Hot Toys version.

[@andrek2180]

Do museum pieces have dents, pieces falling off? Parts poorly fitted? Seriously?

[@shugghead8538]

@andrek2180 these aren't consumer versions. These are tests versions sent to content creators. However have you ever seen what real life screen props often look like? They aren't flawless as they are hand made.

[@andrek2180]

@@shugghead8538 these bodies are defective and JazzInc says they will not fix them. Yes I've seen replicas in person and the bodies don't have dents nor look like they got melted in spots. Stop making excuses for neglect in production and defects intentionally being continued through production then forced on customers. JazzInc's reputation is going into the trash can.

[@lance7413]

​​@@shugghead8538JazzInc has told everyone you are getting dented bodies. Yes they are pushing out their defective product to all buyers. Everyone gets a damaged body they have refused to fix.

[@GodParticleZero]

I think the HT has a better "polish' to it in that the Jazzinc looks like something that is custom made with little flaws here and there on how parts fit together. The Jazzinc does look more accurate, so it's all a trade off

[@SOScollector]

@@GodParticleZero totally! But the curves and the paint on the Jazzinc are really tempting.

[@mrorangepeel659]

Hot Toys version is basically a toy.

[@ED-T427]

@@mrorangepeel659both are toys, wake up 😂

[@andrek2180]

Dents, shrinks, falling guns, wheel bats falling off. People that paid $1500 are not very happy. Worst thing is that JazzInc has the take it or leave it attitude.

[@SOScollector]

Except for the dent, they said all will be fixed for the next batch.

[@andrek2180]

@@SOScollector no they didn't. They said the body stays like that with dents and melt marks for all customers.

[@austincrafton178]

Great review. Personally I think the hot toys batmobile is made better. Joost said himself that they can't get out the dings on the car. Jazzinc vehicles there's always some sorta of issues with them from something not closing properly or something not being flush paint defects no thanks I'll pass I'll take hot toys products all day they have proven themselves over and over again.

[@SOScollector]

Hot Toys is great, but lazy. I would want some upgrades here and there than a straight reissue. They should've given us at least USB light up feature. But the shelf presence's definitely there. I just love staring at it everyday.

[@austincrafton178]

I agree. I'm just thankful that these companies are making our childhood dreams come true.

[@HappyDude1]

the scale and the paintjob of the jazzinc is all wrong and the wheels where not bronze and the dildo on the front was black so the hot toys is way more movie correct

[@SOScollector]

They said they've done research and this version's approved by WB. In the movie, I saw one scene with a glimpse of silver nose cone, the rest was too dark, so it looked black. Anyway both are great pieces!

[@HappyDude1]

@@SOScollector Well i have seen the real one many years ago on a studio tour and its all wrong I have also watched the movie like 40 times even in slow motion to check everything. And I did the calculations to check the scale and the hot toys is bang on

[@SOScollector]

​@@HappyDude1good to hear, this Batmobile is insanely cool!

[@HappyDude1]

@@SOScollector The 1989 and 1995 are the coolest thats why i find it important that everything is correct. On my hot wheels batmobiles the scale is also wrong. It's also on my channel

[@SOScollector]

​@@HappyDude1I'm gonna check out your video.