Why you lose to Nagoriyuki (Analysis)

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Hotashi

Hotashi

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@superjumppunch578
@superjumppunch578 2 жыл бұрын
Just to make sure I understand, could you say that all fukyo forward pressure is technically fake? Outside of OTG 6H or 2S situations, Nago can never fukyo forward for free?
@JpegDog
@JpegDog 2 жыл бұрын
Well when you put it that way… yeah I think so
@amare7430
@amare7430 2 жыл бұрын
@@JpegDog well, not quite. if you're reacting to nago disappearing and he does fukyo back > 2S/6H, you could get blown up. however, thats only if he canceled 5H/6H/2H into the fukyo back, since that leaves him at +2. otherwise, even fukyo back will be negative, so your 5P/2P/2K will recover before he can smack you
@eddiepham2280
@eddiepham2280 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@MessatsuGoshoryu02
@MessatsuGoshoryu02 2 жыл бұрын
Ram mains when they don't have at least a 7-3 matchup against you:
@tenackfgc
@tenackfgc 2 жыл бұрын
Reason 1: I’m bad Reason 2: My opponent is better than me Reason 3: idk man I just work here
@tylercafe1260
@tylercafe1260 2 жыл бұрын
Reason 2 doesn't exist. They're just using a broken character :)
@seven_8434
@seven_8434 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylercafe1260 whatever lets you sleep at night
@tenackfgc
@tenackfgc 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylercafe1260 I’m a filthy Ram player I can’t use that excuse
@mirror2922
@mirror2922 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest part is I've seen low tier players fight Nago better than some high tiers because they are just forced to making the correct/optimal solution in order to even have a chance
@mossrocks8360
@mossrocks8360 2 жыл бұрын
Low tiers in general are more reliant on a good understanding of the game and solid mechanics since they don't have much else going for them, so low tiers usually have a better understanding of what's happening compared to their high tier counterparts at the same elo
@somacruz7758
@somacruz7758 2 жыл бұрын
Thx u guys 🌚
@roberthotdog5549
@roberthotdog5549 2 жыл бұрын
appreciate the super animation skips, mr. editor
@WinnipegKnightlyArts
@WinnipegKnightlyArts 2 жыл бұрын
when it IS your worst matchup and it's still 5-5. Seems pretty nice.
@metalllich3493
@metalllich3493 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't Chaos worse?
@Psychedel1x
@Psychedel1x 2 жыл бұрын
@@metalllich3493 i think he meant Ram
@Kdog-od2xr
@Kdog-od2xr 2 жыл бұрын
Or zato
@WinnipegKnightlyArts
@WinnipegKnightlyArts 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kdog-od2xr I just meant when you're char is so high tier that an even matchup is your worst matchup. Like H.C. is probably another 'bad' matchup for ram but really it just means that she can't just go ham and totally ignore the opponent's options.
@turdnuggetme
@turdnuggetme 2 жыл бұрын
na HC just straight up has an advantage in that matchup.
@bobibobbobino
@bobibobbobino 2 жыл бұрын
My man out there assuming Ram players have braincells.
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace 2 жыл бұрын
Please note who the video is about before you make fun of braincells
@TheJackOfFools
@TheJackOfFools 2 жыл бұрын
So I understand that you are great at this game, and you can afford to enrich scrubland, but why you gotta do the rest of us Nago players dirty like this? Don't tell them the secrets! Now imma get stuffed by someone who watched your video! 😆 EDIT: so that I don't get more people trying to coach me in YT comments, this is a joke. I thought the emoji would make that clear, sorry for any confusion.
@itsjustavi
@itsjustavi 2 жыл бұрын
there's always an answer, so if they do something that blows you up? then do something else that counters that
@tenackfgc
@tenackfgc 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta play the mind game
@TheJackOfFools
@TheJackOfFools 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsjustavi I know, I'm just being silly.
@heythatsme5000
@heythatsme5000 2 жыл бұрын
What you need to do is press 2d followed by a 123 circle and youll win trust
@hakageryu307
@hakageryu307 2 жыл бұрын
Person who uses boomer ass emotes gets misunderstood? Say it ain't so!
@Reitsuchi
@Reitsuchi 2 жыл бұрын
reason 1: they listen to ULTRAKILL ost
@studentoflife8532
@studentoflife8532 2 жыл бұрын
Before I watch the video here's things I've come to understand why I lose: 1. Guessing wrong 2. Getting hit by random 2S, Beyblade and clone too much 3. Not being patient, rushing in and basically helping Nago getting my previously mentioned points. If I get the health lead on roundstart I can play around these 3 points at some degree. Avoid situations that forces me to guess, avoid clone and Beyblade by jumping and playing around Nago whiffing things. The only times I lose the lead is when I'm trying to counterpoke his 2S and he does something else or I messed up.
@1nning271
@1nning271 2 жыл бұрын
ULTRAKILL OST in the background? absolutely magnific love the gameplay, nice vid
@Youngbreadstlck
@Youngbreadstlck 2 жыл бұрын
Hotashi's nago is so fun to watch, it's like eyemusician with yoshimitsu.
@hakageryu307
@hakageryu307 2 жыл бұрын
As both a Yoshi main and Nago main, YES.
@shadowshinobin8641
@shadowshinobin8641 2 жыл бұрын
As a chaos main once you’re in the corner against nago it’s a fight to not drop the soap…
@Sentay0
@Sentay0 2 жыл бұрын
What music is being played when Ram is fighting Nago, I almost recognize that beat.
@tompizzo2773
@tompizzo2773 2 жыл бұрын
It’s from Ultra kill’s ost
@StubenhockerElite
@StubenhockerElite 2 жыл бұрын
The solution to every problem in GG: PRESS BUTTONS
@Z0mgXenu1
@Z0mgXenu1 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I don't need this video. I know why I lose to nago. I fucking suck 😂
@doompigg7403
@doompigg7403 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like most people who know how to play this game know that you can check fukyo. I have to fake fukyo (going backwards) to bait buttons a lot
@Rafael57YT
@Rafael57YT 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that people on low floors don't really have the first issue since they will just mash the heck out of you They're not doing it with a gameplan obv, but it's interesting
@nothingslost9586
@nothingslost9586 2 жыл бұрын
Are you an Ultrakill fan? I noticed the music you used in the video was from that game
@DctrBread
@DctrBread 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool video. Love a counter-play tutorial that also includes what they will do to round things out when they adapt to your counterplay
@NaotoSaysNo
@NaotoSaysNo 2 жыл бұрын
What are Ram's good roundstart options vs Nago?
@Holidoll
@Holidoll 2 жыл бұрын
Super dig the ULTRAKILL music that shit is tight
@gunk7014
@gunk7014 2 жыл бұрын
every time i stumble across ultrakill music in a video completely unrelated to ultrakill i feel like im getting whiplash
@mrCetus
@mrCetus 2 жыл бұрын
Reason 1: I’m bad Reason 2: My opponent is better than me Reason 3: idk man I just work here
@bernardq
@bernardq Жыл бұрын
Came after after 0 - 30 vs Nago) well i guess im here to stay
@faragaroruga3229
@faragaroruga3229 2 жыл бұрын
Welp that fukyo part is now completly irrelevant
@trevorx7872
@trevorx7872 Жыл бұрын
that ultrakill soundtrack tho good stuff
@trashyLAMF
@trashyLAMF 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the vid Hotashi. Much love dood!
@quan_the_don
@quan_the_don 2 жыл бұрын
Reason 4.....you picked gold lewis
@cerdi_99
@cerdi_99 2 жыл бұрын
gold d brother
@Alernategem
@Alernategem 5 ай бұрын
I play Faust so fighting nago really isn’t that bad
@GcYoshi13
@GcYoshi13 2 жыл бұрын
These are my favorite vids of yours.
@felixLucretius
@felixLucretius 4 ай бұрын
7:55 oh, if only this was still true...
@discordmodyoshi4922
@discordmodyoshi4922 2 жыл бұрын
im sorry but whats the first song? i feel like ive heard it somewhere
@slablargemeat8954
@slablargemeat8954 2 жыл бұрын
ultrakill ost: a shattered illusion
@thfgp6789
@thfgp6789 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the dnb song playing during the first match?
@slablargemeat8954
@slablargemeat8954 2 жыл бұрын
ultrakill ost: a shattered illusion
@123123s3
@123123s3 2 жыл бұрын
how'd he blood rage at 1:28 he landed the super which to my knowledge STOPS blood gain.
@MiniBean
@MiniBean 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't stop it like command grab, its a gradual decrease which means it doesn't override the amount of blood he spent in the first place.
@Hotashi
@Hotashi 2 жыл бұрын
it doesnt stop it, it decreases it by a large amount, then another chunk over six seconds
@isaacjewton9262
@isaacjewton9262 5 ай бұрын
7:48 well this aged poorly
@ken7007
@ken7007 2 жыл бұрын
Naw nago just OD
@Jack-lm5nx
@Jack-lm5nx Жыл бұрын
In English please
@dylanh.3793
@dylanh.3793 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the first song? Need that banger.
@slablargemeat8954
@slablargemeat8954 2 жыл бұрын
ultrakill ost: a shattered illusion
@yankiiboy2791
@yankiiboy2791 2 жыл бұрын
Aye hotashi. Did you know that you can delay nagos transformation?
@heishikiwi3763
@heishikiwi3763 Жыл бұрын
hotashi is literally my go to guilty gear tutor i learn something crazy every video
@Naruzakun
@Naruzakun 2 жыл бұрын
Peoples waiting in corner while im in bloodrage are so miserable
@Sparklesniff
@Sparklesniff 2 жыл бұрын
When I look at Dustloop for Nagoriyuki it says fukyo forward is 1-25F Above Chest. Why is it saying 25F if its 28F and what the fuck does "above chest" even mean?
@gimhanafernando1395
@gimhanafernando1395 2 жыл бұрын
Some moves in this game have upper body invincibility, all the 6P’s have this property. If you click on a moves hurtbox tab in Dustloop, you will see a blue, red and yellow box on each part of the move. Those are the hurtbox, hitbox and throwbox respectively. Fukyo is upper body invincible meaning above Nago’s chest, it has all hitbox and no hurtbox. This means you can’t beat it with certain moves but you can beat it with low attacks.
@Mrkrillis
@Mrkrillis 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the song in the beginning?
@evillaust5839
@evillaust5839 2 жыл бұрын
more ultrakill music at the beginning nice
@Wo0zy23
@Wo0zy23 2 жыл бұрын
Ultrakill ost. Nice. 👍
@biggysloppy6833
@biggysloppy6833 2 жыл бұрын
As a chipp main, I do surprisingly well against nago.
@kiyokiyoko
@kiyokiyoko 2 жыл бұрын
So I'm wondering what a good round start v nago would be, cuz I'll be honest I'm always going to jump block
@jacobwpeanut
@jacobwpeanut 2 жыл бұрын
From what I've seen just holding back walks you out the way of the big scary DP but if Nago catches on they will play spicy rock, paper, scissors
@ojamison8460
@ojamison8460 2 жыл бұрын
Depends who uou play but I'll use Giovanna as my example since I play her. Usually if I'm really unsure of my opponents moves I'll instantly back dash or just play it extra safe and block low. If however I know they're gonna do an option, usually I would use 2D to stuff out 5K and 2HS since it easily low profiles those, 5HS to beat 2S since I win on frames, and usually just walk back and whiff punish if I see DP coming. For Beyblade I haven't found an exact punish yet but usually I just neutral jump or 5HS for a hard call out
@ojamison8460
@ojamison8460 2 жыл бұрын
Depends who uou play but I'll use Giovanna as my example since I play her. Usually if I'm really unsure of my opponents moves I'll instantly back dash or just play it extra safe and block low. If however I know they're gonna do an option, usually I would use 2D to stuff out 5K and 2HS since it easily low profiles those, 5HS to beat 2S since I win on frames, and usually just walk back and whiff punish if I see DP coming. For Beyblade I haven't found an exact punish yet but usually I just neutral jump or 5HS for a hard call out
@alexanderdenison2950
@alexanderdenison2950 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojamison8460 gios 5H actually beats the DP as well at roundstart. But it loses to 5K, the risk reward is in nagos favor on pretty much all round starts though, I main Gio and my go to roundstarts in the MU are backwalk and backdash, that way you force nago to start picking more greedy roundstarts if he wants pressure and then and only then do I start counterpoking at roundstart lol
@TOF2485
@TOF2485 2 жыл бұрын
Who do you main? That plays a factor also
@faragaroruga3229
@faragaroruga3229 2 жыл бұрын
Is fukyo still 28f of recovery if you hold it down and you go backwards ?
@n00bdragon
@n00bdragon Жыл бұрын
The cancel happens on frame 14. If you Fukyo back, that's a 16f recovery before you can act and you spent a whole bar of blood to go nowhere and do nothing for 30f total.
@PR1ME98
@PR1ME98 2 жыл бұрын
Challenging fukyo is just way to risky. Especially if they send a clone beforehand. Then it just becomes completely pointless.
@ravenpines
@ravenpines 2 жыл бұрын
Clone + fukyo - a shit ton of blood tho
@speedowagon8352
@speedowagon8352 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravenpines bloodrage isn’t real, it’s just a social construct
@-rakoo-amv454
@-rakoo-amv454 2 жыл бұрын
clone>fukyo is a big commitment you have to think about that and play around that nago's can't afford to clone>fukyo all the times also the clone has to come before the fukyo so you see clone>respect you don't>answer.
@tootsie_
@tootsie_ 2 жыл бұрын
It's vulnerable during most of the animation but it depends on the character. I imagine most characters 5K just smack him
@alexanderdenison2950
@alexanderdenison2950 2 жыл бұрын
It's not, use a fast low recovery button on reaction to the animation so that you won't get whiff punished if he does back fukyo instead. I do it with gio's 5P all of the time for very little risk.
@balltickler-hm5mo
@balltickler-hm5mo Жыл бұрын
Former nago main here the reason why you lose is skill issue
@zounch
@zounch 2 жыл бұрын
i dont lose to angoriyuki. i adapt.
@nosferatu24
@nosferatu24 2 жыл бұрын
What about short forward fukyo?
@bifrost5275
@bifrost5275 2 жыл бұрын
the frame is the same. if you are talking about the distance, then .. footsies
@Hotashi
@Hotashi 2 жыл бұрын
thats a whole nother story
@nosferatu24
@nosferatu24 2 жыл бұрын
of course it is :(
@63skarduken
@63skarduken 2 жыл бұрын
this is the most braindead comment section ive seen in awhile
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