House Blackwood: Ancestry, Sigil & the Weirwood Paradox | ASOIAF Theory

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Since a comment brought it to my attention, that might Andals brought the concept of sigils in Westeros, I am gonna leave a pinned comment too. We do not have any indication that Andals brought the sigils, they are just used by knights a lot in turneys, and knighthood came with them. House Greyiron and house Mudd both had Sigils and got extinct, bc of the Andals and I doubt they embraced Andal customs while in war with them. We also have a comment from Theon about House Massey and how ancient their sigil is: His tunic bore the triple spiral, an ancient sigil for an ancient House. -The Winds of Winter - Theon I So, I am fairly sure the sigils were a thing before the Andals, maybe they didn't have one as warg kings in the North (again maybe), but in the Riverlands most definitely had, since most powerful houses had, like House Madd and even House Fisher that was the first dynasty in the Riverlands, that got extinct before the Andals. If the Blackwoods were kings, they most definitely had a sigil from the start in the Riverlands if not both in the North and the Riverlands.

[@KingOfWinter]

Maybe the Andals brought more elaborate types of Sigils or something. They also say the Andals brought the written word and round castle towers but we know the grey rats have been around since way before the Andals and im sure they wrote stuff down and winterfell has round towers and it was built thousands of years before the Andals. The whole point of Sigils is the identify people on the battlefield. So if there was war before the Andals then most like there were Sigils as well lol

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

That, pretty much

[@micahmcfadden8082]

I think sigils were already a thing because they exist in the north and on skaagos where the andals never conquered

[@rulesnwitz]

​@@KingOfWinterit's really interesting how often they lie id like george to come out and clarify the lies from the truth but that would give away the series that he never will finish

[@pyramidion5911]

Cat I figured it out, the blackwoods were originally the greenhands. Its a lot to explain but basically the brackens killed their tree and turned the greenhands into the blackwoods as both family names are really just insults that people forgot the meaning of Edit: HotD season 2 gives it away

[@dthird3107]

Interesting Blackwood/Greenwood and warg kings. I would like to see a video about House Mudd which is one of my favorite

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Mudds and Fishers are two Houses that I would love to dive into, but I am not sure how much info I can find

[@dthird3107]

@@CompanyOfTheCat Yes and Oldstone the seat of their house really paints a mystery. I can only imagine making a story while playing Tristafer, The Hammer of Justice on CK3.

[@taureansynner6993]

"The Blackwood Estate, seat of the Weir de Veres since the thirteenth century" From wikipedia on the Blackwood Estate, Lanarkshire (Scotland). The Weir name is supposedly of Norman origin (came to the British Isles during the Norman Invasion).

[@peterdunlop7691]

I reckon Weirwoods were once very like Shade of the evening ebony trees, with black bark and blue leaves. However, after a great sacrifice, maybe when blood sacrifice began, there was a schism in the weirwood net, which left the trees white with blood red leaves. Maybe contributed to the cause or end of the Long Night. Perhaps this sacrifice was done at the Blackwood’s tree. When the green seers took over the weirwood net from the Others maybe?

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

I always had in my mind that shade is again a wighted tree of some sort, like the Weirwoords and it was done through a different kind of magic.

[@pyramidion5911]

Brandon of the bloody blade who killed so many CotF it turned the water at blue lake red.

[@hanesben]

Cat your videos are consistently great! Recently found your channel but in my mind you are a leading voice in the asoiaf community ❤

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Thank you very much! So, glad you are enjoying the content.

[@simonholmes841]

Greenwood, I love it! I agree that poisoning a Weirwood is a paper-thin accusation on its face, and ultimately not a compelling concept . . . but what if it's a metaphor that got muddled in a long family tradition? My guess is that someone got buried under that tree who then sabotaged it from the grave. Or even better, the Blackwoods themselves killed the tree by cutting its roots or draining its aquifer when they dug their catacombs. Or they cut it off from its network by sinking deep walls around the godswood. Or maybe they stopped feeding it blood from people whose spirits couldn't just jump into birds when they were laid to rest. Or it just died, and no one knows why, but we all know who they're going to blame.

[@pyramidion5911]

Greenhands

[@SMC01ful]

This channel is the best of the GOT's/ASOIAF theory channels I've come across. What's fantastic is even if the theories you discuss don't pan out, we still learn a hell of a lot about the world. Fantastic Greek accent as well, it helps with the fantasy feel.

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Thank you so much! I am so glad you like the videos and the accent as well😂

[@joseysomemore]

love the new intro.....I like how you go thu the houses and give us the back story. tytyty

[@woolyhoggett]

FYI: Albinos are legally blind from birth--no archers. I am an American Indian albino with dyed hair. I know, it is fantasy series. Before I didn't care. Then I planned a trip abroad, applied for papers and was sent a list of countries where people eat albinos. It was not even from the agency to which I was applying. It kinda creeped me out.

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

I have so many questions. I have ONLY questions.

[@swayback7375]

This is only the second video of yours I listened to, I don’t watch… this was really good I mean damn good! Seems like really solid research and interpretation, symbolism foreshadowing and following the themes

[@billberndtson]

I love your content. 😃 Not sure I love the typing sound effects, but your premise is interesting, your argument reasoned, and delivery delightful. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Thanks! Maybe I will remove it, or put another sound effect, bc having the chapters separated is easier to transition for me. Keeping it in mind though!

[@billberndtson]

@@CompanyOfTheCat I'm merely not sure about it yet. 🙂 I might be in a mood.

[@tatalsaba]

Agree on the typing, it doesn't add anything to the vid but cluttering sounds.

[@fayperce]

draining a Weirwood's power sounds like a solid one

[@WillowGardener]

This seems possible to me, and the part about the Blackwoods being the greenseers the Starks conquered seems very plausible to me--it would make sense that this could be where the Starks get their warging abilities. I do think it's plausible that over a 5000-ish year span, the Blackwoods would change their sigil and this change would be lost to time though. I don't think that's much of a stretch. It could be that they were the greenwoods and then the whitewoods and then the blackwoods, that doesn't seem so unusual.

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

It is mostly the fact that they give some possible date for the poisoning and it isn't that long ago (it is, but not as old), so if they are talking about their tree, why wouldn't they talk about their sigil if it got changed then? This is my big question mark.

[@pyramidion5911]

Greenhands

[@J_Mock92]

This really makes sense, and all of the pieces fit together. I've been re-listening to all of your videos recently, and you have such an interesting and insightful take on things. I really appreciate your point of view, and it feels like a breath of fresh air within the fandom. Don't get me wrong, as I still love content from people I've been subscribed to for years, but you just seem to have a slightly different take on things and/or discuss more niche topics that many others don't, which I'm immensely grateful for, because it keeps things exciting while we're waiting for new material... Hopefully that made at least somewhat as much sense as this theory 😂

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Awww, thank you so much! When I opened this channel I wanted to tackle the story from a different pov and I am so glad people like it and look at the books differently as well. Thanks for watching ❤️

[@J_Mock92]

@@CompanyOfTheCat absolutely! I don't usually comment a ton (though probably more often on your channel than many others), but I love your videos, and hope they keep coming!

[@KingOfWinter]

I always thought the Warg Kings house was house Frost. It’s said in the world book they were a house in the north that went extinct. My head cannon always thought it would be clever that the house that gave the Kings of Winter the most trouble was The Frost lol. Will concede to you though because your theory makes more sense and you actually have evidence of a sort lol

[@mumak333]

Maybe both houses were allied just like the Rynes & Tarbeck

[@ArvosCrusader]

Maekar was Brydens’s nephew. His brother was Daeron the good. Loved the video tho I can not wait for more!

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

I meant Aerys' brother not Brynden's. Targaryen family tree is a headache 😂 Glad you liked the video tho!!

[@gerrys374]

New intro is great

[@aaronabarca4919]

7:18 I knew Lyanna was a horse but never realized Brandon was one too😮

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Yeah, Barbrey commented on Brandon, about Lyanna we have more people pointing it out. "Brandon was fostered at Barrowton with old Lord Dustin, the father of the one I'd later wed, but he spent most of his time riding the Rills. He loved to ride. His little sister took after him in that. A pair of centaurs, those two. -A Dance with Dragons - The Turncloak

[@TheNMR1989]

Great video! Your theories are intriguing and keep getting me thinking more deeply about the plot in the books. I also love how this theory compliments another theory of yours, house Greenwood => house Blackwood === Oak trees => Weirwoods. Also, the ravens souls theory is very interesting and is something that makes a lot of sense. Your reasoning overall makes a lot of sense and it's hard for me to stop listening to your amazing breakdowns and logic.

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Thanks, glad you're having fun😊😂

[@micahmcfadden8082]

I think the wolfswood was originally the blackwood

[@micahmcfadden8082]

It makes more sense that the blackwoods ddidnt flee the north because the close relations they maintained with the stark thereafter

[@micahmcfadden8082]

Piggybacking of the video a bastard son of house greenwood creating house blackwood would make since narratively like house justman house karstark housy greystark etc

[@magister343]

It could be that the Blackwoods are descendants of a bastard Greenwood, but it could just as easily be a cadet branch founded by a legitimate son with an older sibling. Karstark and Greystark were both legitimate cadet branches.@@micahmcfadden8082

[@Oliver-zy8sq]

I love this theory. I immediately rememdered the raven of lord commander Mormont which people wonder if it tries to tell Jon certain things with "King. King. King." and "Blood. Blood" and so on.

[@theduxabides9274]

Maybe the Ironborn, the Andals, the early First Men, and the Rhllorists were right about the 'Demon Trees'...

[@NotAnotherAccount735]

personally, I would still run if I saw a tree with bloody eyes looking at me that feeds on blood

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

I wouldn't trust Rhollorists either tho, at least the trees do not move, Mel is going places just to burn

[@theduxabides9274]

@@CompanyOfTheCat Hey, a broken, pyromaniacal clock is right twice a day!

[@chadbailey3623]

Really fascinating ideas. You definitely get me thinking!

[@carter9449]

The tree is still white on the sigil so maybe someone removed the leaves as their personal arms and then they kept it, that would be a subtle enough change. The name could just come from the ravens making the tree look black. Sacrifice is much more fun though. The dead weirwood in the Eyrie is still white, could be because it's not exposed to the elements though.

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

I am not 100% sure I understand what you mean here, but dead weirwoods are white as well, they just do not have leaves, the blackwood I suggested might be from the ravens covering the tree making it look black. But it is obviously a speculation.

[@stayfaded69]

My own belief Most families from the north know winter is coming. (Stark words) but it runs tru. That's y the weirwood is bare. They were exiled cuz they didn't bend the knee. And it's a stain, black mark on the house. Redwood or weir/white wood could've been their old name (before watching just wanted to right down my wrong opinion lmao)

[@iceleafofalba]

Amazing work as always 👏🏽

[@BudravenOG]

Blackwood!! -Dr. Dre

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

The Blackwoods have a tradition of hammering pennies into their tree. Copper poisoning can kill trees. They killed their own tree. As for changing sigil, I can see them changing it twice. First time was when they moved south in order to distance themselves from what happened so they wouldn't be chased and persecuted. They took up a sigil based on the weirwood tree that was at their new homes, but at that time the tree was still alive so their sigil was one with a living tree. Later when the tree died they changed the sigil again to match the now dead tree.

[@void.sawyer]

Finding your channel felt like finding gold

Don’t forget, that the three eyed raven had visited Euron in dreams when he was young, probably that’s why he went crazy, and he wants to become a god, so it makes sense that he wants to do blood sacrifice at the wierwood, possibly because he wabts to become a greenseer of some sort…

[@treckerdirector7]

Well, the Blackwoods do have the best sigil. btw, i always called the Three-eyed crow the "Three-eyed raven". ravens and crows are basically the same thing, right? 😵‍💫 great vid again, btw.

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Kinda, both are corvus, but the raven is corvus corax and the crow is corvus brachyrhynchos. They have some physical traits differences, and some behavioral ones too.

[@treckerdirector7]

@@CompanyOfTheCat indeed! and the Bloodraven is the 3-eyed crow. 🙄😅

[@KingOfWinter]

There is speculation/debate in the fandom that bloodraven and the three eyed crow are two different people. Some people, I believe, think the three eyed crow is really Bran in the future.

[@treckerdirector7]

@@KingOfWinter maybe, but when the 3-eyed told bran that he had "a brother that he loved, a brother that he hated, and a woman that he desired" (Daeron II, Aegor Rivers and Shiera Seastar, respectively), there is no doubt that he is Brynden Rivers.

[@carter9449]

@@treckerdirector7 Bloodraven said that, the crow is what visits Bran in his dreams is what could be a separate entity. Bloodraven is confused when Bran mentions the 3-eyed crow, but Bran only thinks of him as the crow in aDwD. The idea is that 2 entities visit Bran. "“Are you the three-eyed crow?” Bran heard himself say. A three-eyed crow should have three eyes. He has only one, and that one red. Bran could feel the eye staring at him, shining like a pool of blood in the torchlight. Where his other eye should have been, a thin white root grew from an empty socket, down his cheek, and into his neck. “A … crow?” The pale lord’s voice was dry. His lips moved slowly, as if they had forgotten how to form words. “Once, aye. Black of garb and black of blood.” The clothes he wore were rotten and faded, spotted with moss and eaten through with worms, but once they had been black. “I have been many things, Bran. Now I am as you see me, and now you will understand why I could not come to you … except in dreams."

[@DavidMacDowellBlue]

It is also possible some very minor Northern lord, possibly once allied to the Greenwoods or even related to them, took a wife among the daughters and went south. I suspect the Brackens territory included the land where the dead weirwood tree stood. The family that took that land and built their castle there, taking the name Blackwood. Just a thought.

[@OfAshesPhoenix]

how did i miss this one omg... the blackwoods are my family i don't play about them

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

@@OfAshesPhoenix I love them, I want to be them. I need more bloodraven asap

[@ganykaliya7811]

Wonder how Sea Dragon point got its name? Could be connected to Naga? Sea Dragons are also related to Sea Horses, so it could be a connection to House Velaryon? Either way it connects to the Bloodstone Emperor/Azor Ahai/Grey King, which means that the Blackwoods are his descendants.

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Tbh, I think they were watching Ironborn ships from there and possibly had raids as well. In many official or semi-official content, I have seen the Ironborn ships, specifically Grey King's ship having a carving of a dragon on the prow, possibly Nagga (in histories & lore for example), and it would make sense since GRRM has said their longships are inspired by Viking ones and their chieftains' ships had dragons of their prows. In general, I was thinking of making a video about this, bc it is a very interesting topic!

[@magister343]

I thought that the concept of houses having Sigils or coats of arms comes from the Andals (along with the whole tradition of Knighthood) and was adopted by the First Men only after the Andal Invasion. The Blackwoods might not have adopted any sigil until well after moving south and interacting with Andal houses.

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

I didn't find anywhere that Andals brought the custom of sigils and we have some comments about some first men sigils about how ancient they are. For example about House Massey: His tunic bore the triple spiral, an ancient sigil for an ancient House. -The Winds of Winter - Theon I House Greyiron that got extinct because of the Andals had a sigil already, so it was a thing, both sigils and words. The same goes for House Mudd and other houses that had the same fate.

[@KingOfWinter]

What if the Blackwoods brought the tree with them when they were run out of their home. We’ve seen with BloodRaven and Bran that strong greenseers can become one with the tree. So if you had a powerful ancestor who was hooked up to the tree and could see your history and help you out at times maybe you get the idea to dig your family tree up and take it with you feeding it blood as you go to keep it alive. You’d have enough people supposedly if they had enough people to build a castle and rival the Kings in the new area. Along the way or before they could get the weirwood replanted the brackens did something to it that killed it like killing the greenseer attached to it OR giving the greenseer greyscale (my personal favorite idea). As for the Sigil change. It wouldn’t be too big of a stretch to think the it looked the same as it does now except the weirwood was alive and they changed it to dead weirwood in honor of their fallen greenseer after they realized it/he/she was dying/dead.

[@umwha]

Well, digging up a giant tree is no small task. Add to that that weirwoods specifically are said to have more mass underground that overground, and that Weirwoods are possible cnevted underground, then digging it up would be impossible

[@millibillionth]

Wonderful video full of juicy tidbits! I should just like to bring something that I saw elsewhere: the names like Melanie and Melantha derive from the greek "melaina", which means black or dark. As an aside, could Melisandre (called Melony in one of her memories) be descended from this house as well?

[@Matatabi6]

It would be very like George to have the black woods be the bastards and the brakkens be legitimate but for the black woods are the less god awful house

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Oh, I haven't thought about it, but it is GRRM things for sure.

[@fgsq]

Maybe the weirwood of the sigil was originally alive, and changed after its death?

[@bobmcbob9856]

Well, my own family moved from one region (Montenegro) to another (Herzegovina), allegedly fleeing a blood feud, and we got a new last name at some point, it even means something like black (no wood unfortunately). This is more because surnames weren’t strictly hereditary Among the Serbs though and while you might use one to connect yourself to an older ancestors it was typically more important to use a patronymic (dad’s name + diminutive suffix) as a last name. That said we did take on a Herzegovinian style last name, one based on your father’s nickname related to a physical feature, rather than his name as was the norm in Montenegro and Serbia. Whether adopting local naming customs was just part of assimilation, an international attempt to look less foreign, or a way to keep our enemies from tracking us down, I have no idea. Most likely the former but the latter options are possible All this to say, there is certainly plenty of real life precedent for name changes/shifts like this among exiles, even among very average people.

[@soko-ban]

Great video!

[@pyramidion5911]

Greenhands=Blackwoods So the whole thing revolves around a Brandon Stark. (Ill try and add on as I have time) Thank you Cat

[@DeliveryManBoy]

house blackwood be smoking them thangs

[@alfaridwansetiabudi252]

next do house bracken please

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

I had it in mind too!

[@theduxabides9274]

So if the Blackwoods are descendants of the Warg King, then that makes Rhaegar MONUMENTALLY stupid in fathering a child on Lyanna, when his grandfather Jahaerys II was half Blackwood on his mother's side.

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

I think that Rhaegar had found a lot of things and they just got confused somewhere in the middle not gonna lie😂

[@theduxabides9274]

@@CompanyOfTheCat Jon Darry: "But my Prince, do you not have First Men blood from your great grandfather? Why must we lie to the Stark gir-" SMACK "I AM THE PROTAGONIST OF MY STORY, DO *NOT* TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!"

[@carter9449]

Rhaegar is half blackwood too

[@theduxabides9274]

@@carter9449 **checks family tree to confirm** "SWEET HOME ALABAMA..."

[@sophiawilson8696]

@@carter9449 not half his Great Great Grandmother was a Blackwood.

[@itsmainelyyou5541]

Welp, I'm sold.

[@natasha-em1qo]

The day they hanged Black Robin (Greenwood?)

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

And black robin is also a little black bird, hmmmmmmmmmmm

[@tonyantony6110]

The bear, the bear...

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

The return of the king

[@Ilargizuri]

I really like your new Intro and Outro. The Typing Sound is something I have to get used to, but not bad, just unfamiliar. I have a Question and am unsure if you covered it. It is about Bastards because Catelyn Stark treats Jon poorly. After all, she is afraid he would do something terrible to her Children because everyone thinks Bastards are as lustful and corrupt as their Birthmothers who seduced their Highborn Lovers away from the honourable Way. Let's put aside the misogynistic message of that statement for a Second because the whole society in that Book is misogynistic as hell. We do see a very bad Bastard in the Books, Ramsey, but his bad Blood if you can call it like that comes most definitely from his Father, not his Mother. But aside from Ramsey, I only can think of the Blackfyre Rebellions when a Bastard tried to fight for the Birthright of his Legitimate born Brother. Now you mention a Bastard who was not cruel to his family but rose to power on his own. Also, we have more than one occasion in the Books where a Second born Son or a Cousin is the Black Sheep and tries to claim the Power of their firstborn Brothers. So Bran is more likely to be a Threat to Robb than Jon, but Catelyn seems to love him like her other Children. So I wonder why everyone thinks Bastards are the more devious and greedy People. When there are more Stories in the Books about Bastards who made their own Legacy and fortune and more Stories about greedy Second Borns, but still Bastards are the more dangerous People to first Born Sons. I really don't get it.

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

I think that Andals brought much of the prejudice tbh, bc they were way more prude. But also I think the Night's King was a Snow, that would explain why there are many rumors about his lineage and would explain why Yiggrite said the name Jon Snow was an evil name and why bastards do not have the best name, even though many of bastards we know are more than just decent people.

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

@@CompanyOfTheCat I can't remember where I read it, but the Mountain Clans (even more First Men than the rest of the North, it feels like) don't seem to have the same concept of bastardy as the rest of the North/ realms (bar Dorne)- a man's child is his child, regardless if he's married to their mother or not- that seems more in line with the Wildlings, despite the fact that they & the houses closest to the Wall are first in the firing line, as it were- when they have breached it in their invasions -- it feels like, though the North retained more First Men 'DNA' than the rest, they were still impacted by Andal culture more than they'd like to admit... The Nights' King had like 5 different houses he could have come from, including Stark & Bolton- according to the sources - I never thought about the idea that he might have also been illegitimate...

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

@@OcarinaSapphr- oh, for sure they were also impacted. We are talking about thousands of years and if slowly all started being "oh my neighbor now does this" at some point slowly all houses got affected, maybe not directly but by association.

[@woolyhoggett]

BTW, you make Alt Shift X look simpllistic.

[@BDnevernind]

Wow. This one is good, and very original. This is going to require a couple more listens. I definitely want this one to be true. It may be that you have just thought about it more than GRRM, of course, but I can't see any reason your tinfoil won't turn out to be steel.

[@pharawoahthesecond7551]

Golden Company should realistically look into wiping them all out. Just saying

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

GC would most likely being in King's Landing with JonCon, Cersei, and wilfire, I doubt would wipe anyone out tbh

[@pharawoahthesecond7551]

@@CompanyOfTheCat they wouldn't but they should blackwoods been the problem this whole time.

[@chables74]

Algormancy!

[@yggdrasil2]

Completely forgot about house Greenwood.

[@VukoSrach]

Thank you from Kiev

[@insightsman196]

Tin foil hat on , could not blackwood be a burnt weird wood tree, named for a great burning of Trees , the house was named Blackwood

[@SSolemn]

Blackwood is also "wood that was burned" and that also can kill the tree. It happens often during Thunderstorms... Also, we do have houses with "Dead Weirwoods" in their sigil, like house Marbrand (a burning tree)..... So 2 Burning/Burned trees. Maybe there is something in that, like the burning bushes with the "voice of god" from the bible

[@NickAgatha]

This is a Greek accent!

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Είναι 😂

[@rosstemby1347]

They didn’t want to follow the pact, got terminated, fled south, killed the tree to stop their own blood ending up in the tree? Like the starks? Starks followed the pact but did the crypts anyway for a backup army?

[@ivkica1001]

YAAAAASSSSSS I WAS WAITING ON IT🎉🎉🎉

[@Itisoverthere-rw]

Θα έλεγε κανείς ότι ο κ. Blackwood έχει 6 παιδιά και 1 κορίτσι 😜

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Και ο Ταυτος ηταν σε φαση παρε ενα απο αυτα τα 5 παραπεταμενα που εχω εκει, ασε τη Μπεθανι κατω

[@Itisoverthere-rw]

​@@CompanyOfTheCatΕ, ναι, κλασικές αδυναμίες.

[@vaijim5962]

τινος εισαι συ;

[@millibillionth]

Wonderful video full of juicy tidbits! I should just like to bring something that I saw elsewhere: the names like Melanie and Melantha derive from the greek "melaina", which means black or dark. As an aside, could Melisandre (called Melony in one of her memories) be descended from this house as well?

[@CompanyOfTheCat]

Glad you liked the video! To be fair, even though Melantha, Melony, etc come indeed from μελανός, which means dark, inky, etc, and in the cases of the Blackwoods obviously is used, because they have such dark hair and eyes, the Melony bit I don't see it. Melony is a name we have seen before, funnily enough on another redhead, Melony Piper, a warrior woman and a member of House Piper during the reigns of kings Aenys I Targaryen and Maegor I Targaryen, who led the forges of her house against the latter. In Melisandre's case I think the name was chosen more because of symbolism, she is a priestess of R'hollor, and red from head to toe, but also is a shadowbinder and the second most associated color with fire and, of course, the first most associated color with shadows, is black. I think it's more of a play and a fun little clue, than anything etc. Thanks for watching!❤️

[@millibillionth]

@@CompanyOfTheCat Thank you for your thoughtful response! I didn't even remember this Melony Piper character! 🤭