House of the Dragon | S1 EP5: Inside the Episode (HBO)

[@eltigre8147]

When Alicent made her entrance, while everyone stood up, Daemon was the only one who remained seated. Loved that detail.

[@tumeloseleke5307]

Daemon never stands for anyone, in the first episode he stayed seated when Viserys enteres the room

[@ThaBootyBandit]

@@tumeloseleke5307 Which is why he should've been the heir

[@s3npai486]

@@ThaBootyBandit thats litteraly why he should not be the heir. Disrespectfull towards everyone

[@kirathekillernote2173]

@@s3npai486 and Rhaneyra? She is the same as Daemon, just milder & more dependent

[@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607]

Oh I didn’t see that!!!

[@marquicej4503]

I’m team black always but Alicent’s dramatic entrance to the wedding wearing her green gown was everything.

[@senister14]

This war will have no winner, only little boys who are lost in the night with no one around to guide them.

[@joshua6207]

It was a power move. I wonder if her and cole will hook up lmao

[@neonoires]

It was soooo good

[@jmb10v]

@@senister14 aegon the broken

[@senister14]

@@jmb10v and his brother.

[@Divine_Chareka]

Episode 5 was a work of art, I will miss Milly & Emily. They did a fantastic job bringing Rhaenyra & Alicent to life 👏

[@blackwolf179]

i hope at least they ll explain what happened between rhaenyra and daemon later in the show (like little flashbacks or something)

[@ousmanjallow7866]

@@blackwolf179 No flashbacks, this story is linear.

[@knightnxk2906]

@@blackwolf179 well u can make some detecitve work and think on what happened before episode 5. Something similar happened here again. Aslo read some forums when other try to put their input on the thing that have happened til now. It gives you better insight and understanding what was or might have been going inside their head. Daemon could be for example

[@anslemfrank4721]

@@knightnxk2906 any links to some forums to read??

[@fettfan91]

Milly Alcock and Emily Carey really breathed life into their characters. I love that the director of this episode really let some moments linger so you could feel their internal struggle, like when Rhaenyra has to turn away from Criston after he asks her to run away together. You could see the conflicting emotions play out before she turns back around and reaffirms her desire to be queen.

[@wain9026]

I don't think she really likes him. He's more of a rebound and fun for her imo and he's caught feelings big time

[@Charsy8]

@@wain9026 Oh, she likes him. She liked him from day 1, when she chose him among all the others. And she started liking him even more, when he saved her from the boar. Then in the years we don't see I'm sure she was drawn to him, but she never acted on it, cause that's what she believed was the right thing, that's how she (and women like her) was raised to be/act. Sooo when Daemon told her that you can actually take control over your own life and sexuality (and get pleasure from that), and then left her waiting (for more from him)... Criston Cole was right there for the taking, so she decided to finally act on her crush on him. Yeah, it was purely physical for her, cause she was, is and always will be in love with Daemon... but for Cole it appears to have been more than mere sexual attraction.

[@khronoskay2749]

@@Charsy8 Nah. She called for him cause he was there. She doesn't like him like that, she fucked him thinking of daemon

[@doctorj9594]

@@Charsy8 she only likes Daemon.. else she is not much intersted in sex.

[@Riggpoppa]

A Westerosi wedding never disappoints

[@AWSVids]

Only one death? This was dull by Dothraki standards.

[@greenforce68]

Rhaegar's wedding is the winner for sure. it caused him the extinction for his entire clan.

[@spearshake4771]

Both GoT and HotD make weddings and pregnancies seem horrible but there were a lot of weddings in the book universe and basically also the shows that did not end in tragedy but they aren't shown on screen because who wants to see a boring old wedding where nothing bad or dramatic happens

[@randomdude4207]

@@AWSVids I came here to write this.

[@Darkstar_Dayne]

​@@greenforce68 Even Rhaegar's birth was a tragedy for his family

[@cheddar9577]

loved that bit when daemon came uninvited and a servant had to pull up a chair for him. and viserys stress eating was funny

[@raemontargaryen3005]

viserys scratching his cheek out of confusion was making it funnier . he was like “why is he here? uhm okay, anyway...”

[@cheddar9577]

@@raemontargaryen3005 i didn't notice that 😂 paddy is smart to add those tiny details for viserys! viserys's reactions to other people's nonsense is one of my favourite things this season

[@freebirdp3887]

@@cheddar9577 his acting is so above and beyond. effortless! i laughed too when he was stabbing his chicken while trying to keep an eye on his brother with his daughter, and alicent was looking at him at wtf

[@gingerelf24]

Stress eating! So apt. Come here you wretched chicken 🐔. I thought it was so funny too!

[@artarealmblazer]

Ser Breakbones getting the nod to become the bully bouncer at the club and start throwing bows was the greatest moment of this entire show.

[@shreykapoor5962]

Motherfucker lived up to his name. 😂 When Lyonel gave him the nod- That was when the party began.

[@vivek27789]

No

[@indiankid8601]

No

[@johnnyirons222]

It would’ve been so cool if he just started throwing people😂

[@greenforce68]

ikr 😂

[@jackelinevalladares7118]

This episode is about Alicent, she "lights the way" with that green dress, sending the message to her family that she will fight for her house's interests and will embody their values to the max. In these episode she realizes and supports the motives of her father to get her son into the iron throne. I do believe that the Hightowers and Maesters have been planning to get into power to erase the incestuous and magical traditions that come with the Targaryen family. Alicent feels betrayed and treated as a fool by the King Viserys and Rhaenyra...the bonds are already broken and soon enough the seeds of war will bloom and when they do they'll cry blood.

[@Shae8]

I don't get how she feels betrayed? Like she really committed a betrayal to rheanera by sneaking and getting close to her father to positioned herself in power. Rheneara didn't owe alicant an explanation to who she was fucking

[@theblackpearlofbraavos]

I agree, they have. Starting with their dragons.

[@Illmare]

All of that was Maegor's fault lol.

[@GottaLookInwardToSeeOutward]

Duh

[@danielkioko992]

I agree. I also noticed that the grand maester refuses to try any other treatment suggested by the 'assistant' maester. He only uses slugs. I'm sure that the maesters are actively working with the hightowers in oldtown to bring about the end of the dragons and their riders.

[@rinacherr7788]

Whenever Daemon and Rhaenyra speaks their mother tongue to each other - it's like magic in the air around them. A bond that nothing can break it, a bond that created by blood and now with lust only fires it up 🔥

[@edzia13131]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@babyyoda3460]

hes 16 yrs older than her... he always goes for the young ones

[@ninac.5257]

@@babyyoda3460 i thinnk being her uncle is more shocking than the age gap

[@prajaktadande7053]

Im going to miss milly as rhaenyra. She is awesome.

[@my_quiet_riot]

Same. I hope they find a way to do flashbacks with her.

[@queenb2450]

@@my_quiet_riot flashbacks is just lazy writing. I feel like if they never planned it (like in the books) doing it now is only fan service and might make things awkward. Sometimes, you just have to let things be bruh. No one asked for a Ned Stark flashback........

[@lawrencefrost9063]

You should watch Upright if you like her.

[@Marth66666]

@@queenb2450 a lot of people asked for a Ned/tower of joy flashback. What are you talking about.

[@OnTheLew]

@@Marth66666 But that was a younger Ned Stark and not the one we got to know in Season 1

[@brendonsmith3080]

Game of Thrones had the Red Wedding and the Purple Wedding. House of the Dragon has the Green Wedding👑💚

[@TheBaldr]

I prefer the soiled wedding, different era, different naming scheme, but it is not up to me.

[@malifex9922]

Also had the Gray Wedding between Sansa and Ramsay.

[@Bmega81]

Should be the white wedding. Lol raeynara and Cristin Cole. Both wore white

[@spacechampi0n]

And at two of those weddings, a Joffrey died. hahahaahahahaahahah

[@jenni5104]

I wanted (and expected) more deaths.

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

"What a boring wedding"- dothraki everywhere, seeing only 1 body in the procession

[@iiii498]

I love how basically everyone in the show think that they figured everything out and Rhaenyra's love interest is Criston, even Criston himself believes that. And only the three Targaryens know and see the truth 😂

[@sekarpertiwi4077]

Lmao 😂

[@360.Tapestry]

say uncle. say uncle

[@ninelr222]

Because they are used to keeping it in the family. In any meaning you want :)

[@antonia4523]

I am in love with your statement🥰

[@EvanSol919]

A Westerosi wedding without a death is considered a dull affair.

[@neutchain7838]

The night has not even started until the first assasination attempt lol

[@mufasa1362]

Lady whistledown would love This😂😂

[@fettfan91]

It is known.

[@jeanbutinfrench]

Criston did my boy Laenor dirty, he didn’t need to see that, but story structure-wise it’s great to see rhaenyra’s thought inconsequential actions multiply on bigger and dangerous consequences, I swear every week I’m on the edge of my seat and angry that the episodes end…

[@Lamiishere]

Cringe af

[@dianedavid3052]

I feel Joffrey escalated that by being cocky and Christon is a disappointment! Sworn protector and he caved without even getting all the information about what he was being asked. He wouldn’t have had to lie because he wasn’t even in Alicent’s equation. I’m so annoyed with him lol. Poor Laenor grief stricken and having to get married his man’s blood still pooled on the floor…

[@khotunkhan3950]

@@dianedavid3052 patience my ass My guy didnt bother to explain either He felt he was threatened lmao

[@poggamus4330]

@@dianedavid3052 LMFAO CHRISTON IS EXACTLY LIKE JON SNOW... GULLIBLE WITH THE OATHS AND SHIT... AND STUFF ABOUT LOVE BLAH BLAH BLAH

[@lr84p38]

@@dianedavid3052 Why did a marriage have to take part at the end, of course Rhaenyra isn’t meant for Laenor Velaryon? I’m guessing now Daemon will father her children.

[@teenadabi3182]

Fabien literally killed it, I mean what a wonderful actor he is, his emotions were so raw that one could actually feel the pain in his eyes 😐

[@moonrock720]

He did a good job portraying Criston's desperation to leave everything behind.

[@YBaclayon]

​@@moonrock720t

[@manvirshergill1739]

Criston Cole going crazy when Beating Joffrey was really chilling. Great acting by Fabien.

[@juanpablonicolasgiancola4042]

Reed the book....reed the book...is a villlian....like others TARGARYEN...

[@BrotherAzrael]

@@juanpablonicolasgiancola4042 The only villainy here is your English

[@jakea.5952]

Reed the book....reed the book...is a villlian....like others TARGARYEN...

[@BlazedDiViNe]

Reed the book....reed the book...is a villlian....like others TARGARYEN...

[@tychonestoris9360]

Howland the book....Meera the book...Jojen the book...is a villlian....like others TARGARYEN...

[@knightsofren1742]

Alicent just gave the middle finger to Rhaenyra, the way she called her “stepdaughter” you just know that whatever feelings she had left for her are gone!!!

[@Lionspel]

Well, she did broke her trust first by keeping secret that she's seeing the king after Aemma's death (even if not intimately) that lead to her being chosen as wife. So yeah, both played the game of thrones and made their moves now.

[@balerion77]

By what right should she be mad at Rhaenyra?? She did the betrayal first then accused Rhaenyra of screwing Daemon, Rhaenyra answered that they didn't "DO IT". Why would Rhaenyra confess about Criston?.Alicent herself knows it was her father's fault for getting fired during his quest to make AEGON heir. She has no right to be mad.

[@nicolasritzke1042]

@@balerion77 Alicent never betrayed Rhaenyra in my eyes. She never wanted any of this, she was basically pushed into this by her father. Sure, she could have told Rhaenyra about her talks with the king, but Viserys probally told her to keep all of that a secret for now. Rhaenyra on the other side oppenly lied to Alicent. About Daemon, because he DID touch her, and about the fact that she was no longer a virgin. And she swore on her mothers name!

[@fortheloveofcats2462]

@@nicolasritzke1042 Daemon didn't "touch" the part of Rhaenyra that Alicent and Otto were talking about. She told the truth, at least in the context of that conversation. If you're going to take every word literally, then Alicent could also be called a hypocrite for "kissing" her father.

[@adbylsh2756]

@@Lionspel she didn’t rhaenyra began to conflict by lying to her about her maidenhood

[@amaliarosa9961]

Loved the episody, mostly because of Fabien's acting. I don't like much Criston but on this episody you could see his feelings, his motives and how it leads to this breakdown. We saw lots of his emotions, the rage, shame and then dispair. To me it was one of the great moments of a character in the entire series (including Game of Thrones).

[@rogerluiz2479]

tottaly agree

[@Nnemicvids]

Doesnt happen in the books so im getting GOT season 8 vibes from this episode, they changed so much and for the worse

[@johnnyirons222]

@@Nnemicvids well at least D&D ain’t the directors cause they can’t right for crap at least with these new directors we have some faith

[@rinmartell2678]

@@Nnemicvids Criston did kill Joffrey in the books.

[@Regenmacher175]

@@Nnemicvids Dude, he kills Joffrey Lonmouth in a tourney in the book. They made a good adaptation choice that was efficient.

[@forzer456]

Going to miss young Rhanerya and Alicent. The actors did a realy good job. All the best for their older halves.

[@parklinkin6624]

Daemon not standing up when Alicent enters the hall because she turned his smug badass entrance into the second best for tonight 😂 Once a second son always a second son

[@ousmanjallow7866]

I wasn’t surprised he was seated😂

[@swetagupta3927]

This is real reason😂❤

[@Alex-mn1fb]

Absolutely love that we finally see more of villain part of Daemon, remember that GRRM himself said he could be both a hero and a villain. Also, Rhaenyra and Alicent are now both firmly in the race against one another to be the first lady of the realm and the court. The idea is that both sides are neither fully good nor fully bad, and this episode really captures it. Alicent abandons any loyalty to Rhaenyra, feeling betrayed and also she realizes that between her children and her friend, she is a mother now first and foremost. That realization on her face when Otto tells her to choose had me thinking of that epic sentence : "When you play the Game of Thrones you win or you die". Great episode !!

[@Nnemicvids]

He doesnt kill his wife in the books, hes not even there. He receives the news from a raven. Killing his wife makes about as much sense as season 8 of GOT

[@Alex-mn1fb]

@@Nnemicvids No need to defend Daemon he is more then capable doing it himself 😁 They decided to make him less villainous in the last few episodes, they compensated a bit with this

[@pilzbier5271]

@@Nnemicvids Fire and Blood is written by a maester of the citadel, so the information you read in the book doesn't have to be 100% accurate. A measter cannot know If Deamon killed his wife or if he was really not in the Vale. He writes down the information he is given to.

[@dreamslove1184]

@@pilzbier5271 he was in the stepstones,also daemon is always acused of being suspect of a crime, that may be he killed laenor ,Harwin,they said he loved laena and then that no may be it was just for power,the same with nettles,Rhaenyra,his death,but with Rhea was the only time they didn't acuse him of being suspect and they decided the contrary in the show.

[@idontcareaboutyouropinion8494]

@@dreamslove1184 Well he is a little rat so obviously he'll be accused

[@jennalogan5552]

Brilliant! That subtle not so subtle entrance by Alicent was louder than any words she could have spoken. The whole wedding scene you could just see and feel the tensions, the raw emotions building and churning and I was like "okay, what's the straw that breaks the camels back gonna be?" Definitely didn't expect how it happened but it really played well into the human emotions and how much a person can take before they snap. My anxiety level was pretty high this episode lol great job!!

[@indiankid8601]

It was so good I was rewinding it again and again not to miss a single dialogue.

[@KingKing-cz6xh]

The straw is going to be a eye 😂😂

[@jennalogan5552]

@@KingKing-cz6xh haha and that is was my friend!😆

[@jakobm.4183]

This small dialogue about the color green, says no less than Alicent has declared war to Rhaenyra.

[@DavyJones_]

@@KingKing-cz6xh nice man 👌😂

[@ry2950]

If I had a nickel every time a dude named Joffrey died at a wedding I would have two nickels. Thats not a lot, but its funny that it happened twice.

[@dantefromdevilmaycry9857]

Killing Joffrey is just a wedding Tradition for Westerosi's at this point why not?

[@Nnemicvids]

Doesnt happen in the books so im getting GOT season 8 vibes from this episode, they changed so much and for the worse

[@fortheloveofcats2462]

Hope the third Joffrey doesn't die at a wedding 😅

[@LilPeachBooty]

@@Nnemicvids i think you're confused and wrong because plenty of other people were talking about the book, and it unfolds just as that.

[@ivanacvetanovic7611]

@@Nnemicvids Yes it does. Just a few days later at a wedding tournament.

[@mariacamilaperezortiz282]

Is it me or has this episode made it clearer that the maester is part of the reason Viserys isn't getting better? When his helper offered an alternative solution, he immediately dismissed it, even when he sees that the leeches are not helping. 🤔

[@melindoranightsilver9298]

Either he is trying to kill him or he is too arrogant and stuck in his ways to try something else.

[@sarakilburn2711]

Glad someone else picked up on this. Maesters are trained in the Citadel which is in Oldtown, where the Hightowers are Lords. Not unreasonable for Hobert/Otto (with baby Aegon’s interests in mind - aka. someone they can control) to conspire to end Vicerys, along with all the magical dragon bs the Targs bring. I smell a rat…. called faith of the seven.

[@luciamota1249]

Also at the wedding Mellos was sat next to the Hightower lord... I didn't want to believe in this particular theory but at this point it's pretty clear it's true. The gray rats are up to something with the Hightowers, and that must be true for the future events of the books, just as Lady Barbrey Dustin said...

[@DavidGravesExists]

We see that Viserys is still alive in the next episode, so maybe the little Hightower/Maester plot has been revealed?

[@kateris1976]

His accolyte is named Orwyle. I don't think it's a coincidence, there is a Grand Maester with that name, maybe they're setting him up for the future...

[@alexandraserce3772]

I want to give sir Leonor a hug

[@RanwulfMaxwell]

His voice was breaking during the vows. I got super sad for him.

[@sarakilburn2711]

Wailing like a widow next to his lovers corpse; cries echoing in the hallways. Surely, others will catch on there was more between those two than friendship?

[@senpailee1967]

@@sarakilburn2711 I think they already knew see how fast they got tf out when he crawled to his body. They were definitely like “time to go”

[@mike90317]

@@sarakilburn2711 It is known.

[@greenforce68]

I feel sorry for Viserys. he's doing his best. I caught him knowing that Daemon is behind Lady Rhea's death and he started to worry about Rhaenyra. either he worry that Daemon would kill her or kidnap her. it seems to me, he has no trust left to Daemon. he's a good father and he did his best to protect his daughter.

[@rafz9147]

But I don't think Daemon would do anything harm rhaenyra, I think despite his ambition deep down he really cares for rhaenyra.

[@kateris1976]

The way they're setting up Larys is brilliant. The writing, especially in the scene between Alicent and Criston is masterfully done. And all this from a book with next to no dialogue. Just excellent.

[@360.Tapestry]

is he doing that all by himself, or is lyonnel running the show all behind the scenes while giving out excellent advice that he knows the king won't follow, anyway lol

[@hellokittybg93]

Who's Larys?

[@pirualado47]

@@hellokittybg93 the guy with the crooked foot

[@kateris1976]

@@hellokittybg93 The clubfoot. The man with the malformed leg who talks to Alicent near the weirwood tree.

[@hellokittybg93]

@@kateris1976 was he a schemer in the book?

[@100rabhjha]

Every thing is temporary in this world But Joffrey dying in a wedding is permanent

[@Nnemicvids]

Doesnt happen in the books so im getting GOT season 8 vibes from this episode, they changed so much and for the worse

[@FURYCHAOS184]

@@Nnemicvids Are you legally blind btw?

[@amirhoseinizadi925]

@@Nnemicvids Are you going to elaborate or just spam under every comment?

[@WileChile51]

@@Nnemicvids Oh shut UP.

[@neonoires]

I absolutely loved the subtle drama of this episode. I wonder if people who don't watch these inside the episode clips or read the books fully understand this episode. It's going to be interesting to see people's reaction to this.

[@itsalejandroe]

What do you think wasn't as clear on the episode and they explained further here? I haven't read the books and I use these to know a bit more about their reasoning behind most scenes but I don't think they explain that much that isn't clear on the actual episode, just a few minor things

[@TheEtherny]

subtle??

[@TheEtherny]

@@itsalejandroe I just like hearing the people who work on the show explain their reasoning for the things they chose to do, it's pretty cool knowing Otto's actor say what he meant to say to his daughter even tho he couldn't

[@Nnemicvids]

This doesnt happen in the books so im getting GOT season 8 vibes from this episode, they changed so much and for the worse

[@eurongreyjoy1008]

@@Nnemicvids sorry mate but if you are rly a book nerd you should have hated got from season 2 so dont come here with these bullshits about a history book and not an actual pov book

[@iiii498]

I also absolutely loved that Criston asked Rhaenyra to leave with him and abandon everything and she was like nah-ah, and then she asked Daemon the same😂 to risk everything and take her away

[@twiliblade]

her real love intrest

[@MrLTiger]

that was an interesting moment. I'm pretty sure she was calling his bluff saying that, not expecting him to actually do it, but the way she says it was almost flirty, as if she was daring him to do it for real too

[@iiii498]

@@MrLTiger i feel like that was what she wanted him to do, but didn't believe he would

[@sandramathew6492]

There is a difference, I think. Criston wanted her to leave everything including the throne. Leaving with Daemon would not require that.

[@iiii498]

@@sandramathew6492 absolutely

[@mydarlingladyy]

The green dress was so beautiful, I just can't get enough of it. This episode was unreal, I am so excited for the next episode!!!!

[@NRV0]

What happened in this episode is mostly Rhaenyra and Cole fault. Rhaenyra for bedding her sworn sword and compromising his morals and Criston for compromising his morals and being stupid enough to think the future Queen would pick him over ruling the 7 Kingdoms. Now Rhaenyra has made two enemies when should could've had none. Criston and also Alicent.

[@achadihya4706]

This is where the war begins

[@fortheloveofcats2462]

Alicent made Rhaenyra an ememy frst, though inadvertently, because of her choices and words.

[@muffinhydra]

I think when Cole asked the question he never expected her to say yes. But what he wanted to see is her to stop, contemplate on it, be insecure about her answer. Because that would signal to him that the feelings she used to coerce him to fuck her were important to her. But in the end she decided to patronize him and mansplain the situation to him. That was what set him off.

[@CaptainPikeachu]

This is all on Criston. He chose to bed her, and then he chose to be weak and toxic and disloyal as fuck and snitch on her. Man comes into this world and didn’t seem to understand the reality of things and then gets pissy because he’s rejected? There could have been none because Criston could have just been a real man about it and keep his mouth shut and understand the reality of things. And Alicent should have been cognizant of how her vile father uses her for his own ends and is putting her against her friend.

[@sugma-lucious]

This is Alicents fault for sleeping with and bedding Viserys, and betraying Rhaenyra

[@IGUANAMIKE]

Clare Kilner is an amazing director. She absolutely nailed the last 2 episodes. Can't wait for E9!

[@EvanSol919]

GRRM has a pathological hatred of weddings.

[@arifania6061]

😂😂

[@ninelr222]

Exactly opposite. He loves them and so just wants to make them more fun :)

[@InkedArtisan85]

Like Disney with mothers.

[@sheharyarimtiaz5138]

😂😂😂😂

[@tornikebukhrashvili2170]

Tyrion and Sansas and . Ramsey and Sansas weeding go without killing . Also Renly and Margaery

[@jet687]

Alicent's talk with Otto was so powerful for her! The episode was so much about her keeping her composure with all the shit going on around her. I would have lost clumps of my hair if I was her!

[@gaffyduck7491]

Matt smith is killing it in this show wow

[@ousmanjallow7866]

Yep

[@pressrepeat2000]

This show is masterfully crafted beyond belief. The fact that they made the whole death of Daemon’s wife a mini story with so much tension and action, and some stunningly beautiful filming and characterisation, is incredible. Beautifully written, acted and filmed. Every minute of this show is to be savoured so far. Hope they keep it up.

[@theahmedmustafa]

The only complain I have with the episode was the way the significance of the color green was thrown in in the moment. It would have been much weightier (and more GOT like) if the significance was thrown in earlier seemingly randomly, maybe as a conversation earlier between Otto and Viserys, for the audience to then see Alicent dressed in green and be in awe as they made the connection themselves. Leaves a much greater impression. Other than that, solid episode

[@mateo.escallon]

I am loving House of the Dragon. It has been amazing so far, and I am certain that it will be this way in the future. Thanks for it.

[@isabellakrissane5750]

I suppose the biggest question of this episode is WHERE does Daemon vanish when the brawl breaks out? Why does he leave Rhaenyra alone undefended like that? Why does Criston Cole snap at that very moment, was it after seeing Daemyra? I mean how come nobody on the dance floor pays a hoot to Daemyra literally discussing elopement?

[@DonEnzone]

Great questions all.

[@NolanGemini94]

Yeah I feel the episode is mostly good, but definitely not the best! Missing out on small logical details make it rather inconclusive and bland. Like how tf couldn't the Kingsguard protect Rhaenyra when the fights broke out and stop the chaos sooner? It was their job to protect her, it was in the royal hall afterall, and surely they have full control of the event. Where tf did Daemon go!! he was there and suddenly he wasn't. Makes no sense. He ain't magic, and would not even abandon Rhaenyra like that. And behold our soon to be King-consort prince Laenor conveniently taking a beating on his wedding day and nobody steps in?? Like wtf!! Viserys the King and Lord Corlys helplessly shifting their ass on their chair? Lol Only for Harwin Strong to swoop in and save the day? I find it quite ridiculous if I start to scoop out and dwell on these things, so I think I'll stop here.

[@yaboyed5779]

I love how they meant the use of Green as a Hightower signal of war and why she uses it.

[@sneezydeezymcdeluxe7015]

There was so much going on in that wedding scene, it was absolutely mental. The different relationships, conflicts, tension forming between all these characters is just perfectly setting up the epic shit that's coming. Truly exceptional.

[@missmac564]

Had Rhaenyra been born male, what she did with Ser Criston wouldn’t have meant anything, but because she’s a woman she’s expected to be ‘chaste’. I found this episode intriguing to see both young women develop their characters & how Rhaenyra is a modern woman in a rather backwards setting.

[@MM-hf6om]

True but to be fair doesn't mean she will make a good ruler doing that either. None of the male whores where good rulers either. Look at king Robert and Aegon the unworthy.

[@Sam-0827]

That’s true and Alicent and Rhaenyra both have such different lives despite being so close to each other now

[@nickrubin7312]

Had Ser Criston in this case would be born as a woman, let's say Lady Cristina, and somehow would be elevated to the position of the Kingsguard, what potential male Rhaenyra did to potential Lady Cristian would be clearly discussed as the an obvious abuse of power.

[@Al-ji4gd]

Takeaway: Don't be a modern woman.

[@Mariana-kz1op]

Alas, she was born female. She is turning into Cersei with each episode. Both mother bastards and think they are above the rules because of their last names.

[@betyerpwet]

Alicent's grand entrance is a statement in it's own not needing any words to say what she wants say. I think her green dress not only represent her family banners, but also that she is so green in envy with Rhaenyra who, not only gets to do and have things Alicent the queen can not, but can get away with things she is not supposed to do. Alicent has always made sure that Rhaenyra lives up to be the ruler she is meant to be, but I think she is realizing how Rhaenyra just doesn't give the crown the regard she does. Alicent plays by the rules and Rhaenyra doesn't and yet she seems to be having more fun without facing any true consequences to her wrong actions. I think this pushes Alicent over the edge and is consumed by envy because she has never been as free to love and choose as Rhaenyra.

[@nyashagatsi8511]

Word and She always chose her, now that must change 😂.

[@ninelr222]

Can we also appreciate an entrance to the wedding the Lannister guy makes? He carries his body and moves in a very epic way. Like a monument to himself.

[@mykael76]

Damn who knew Criston Cole was a true idealist romantic at heart… he didn’t want to be a Paramour or sideshow he wanted to become her husband in a far away place, I’m not saying Cole’s future actions is justified and forgivable but I understand…😂😢💔

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

Bruv was stupid for killing Joffrey

[@harryshome4588]

@@rexibhazoboa7097 Joffrey was stupid for telling Sir Criston Cole that he knew his secret and he even threatened him and Rhaenyra which was what ticked him off. Everything Joffrey did was absolutely unnecessary, he should've kept his mouth shut and he'd still be alive

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

@@harryshome4588 Yes he should have, he could’ve said what he said without threat. But even so, Crispin should not have resulted to violence. He knew Leanor’s secret as well. Crispin was thinking with his heart. I personally hope he doesn’t live to see the end of this war

[@mykael76]

@rexibhazoboa well man spilled the beans to Alicent and thought any day was his last day, his love just spurned him and the fact he still has to watch over her as a kingsguard is torture, so he thought ‘fuck it.’ Stupid but he knew it.

[@fikichaeranirizkiah3138]

Yes. Ser cole will be a good husband to Rhaenyra i think. But unfortunately, he's falling in love to princess and heir the iron throne, and he's not coming from a noble house. So sad for ser criston.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

Sir Christian spilling the beans without even being asked, I dislike him already

[@dianedavid3052]

So disappointing!

[@tiffmonique7154]

He's so annoying 😂

[@UmbreonDarkness69]

You're supposed to dislike him. He's not on Rhaenyras side

[@Lamiishere]

Cringe af!!!

[@adingdingdiiing6740]

He thought it was going another direction. I think Alicent was trying to talk about the Daemon rumors. Criston thought she was referring to him so he accidentally spilled the beans about him and Rhaenyra.

[@zaraa.2198]

I don't know why a lot of people aren't saying this, but to me, Alicent's changed stance and so-called 'declaration of war' against Rhaenyra had more to do with how Rhaenyra inadvertently used her to remove Otto from his station leaving her alone in a tricky situation with very few allies.. and NOT because she was lied to or jealous of Rhaenyra's freedom. Plus, Otto was right. Rhaenyra's claim will be challenged and she will come for Alicent's children to secure it.

[@bts_is7]

Agree

[@Magmafrost13]

I love Lady Rhea so much, she deserved better than Daemon. And I love the decision to make her such a badass, it can be inferred that the reason Daemon hated her so much was because she saw right through him and he couldnt stand that he couldnt manipulate her.

[@DonEnzone]

Seriously? You love a character that was in the show for 5 whole minutes?

[@vishnumohandas602]

This episode was intense af

[@20PINKluvr]

Learned the significance of the color green this episode. The light glows green at the light tower to call to war

[@Vaelor.B]

It's just that every house has its own color. Mostly because that's representive in their banners. The Targaryens have black and the hightowers green.

[@livnatperez2591]

Daemon and Rhaenyra are caring the show on their shoulders. Their chemistry is just INSANE!!

[@JuliusGalacki]

Their chemistry is excellent but they're NOT carrying the show. First and foremost the writing and direction are. Most of the cast is excellent. Take away Paddy Constantine's performance, etc. and there would be no counter-weight, no opposition to what Matt Smith and Milly Alcock are doing as Daemon and Rhaenyra.

[@NinaC]

They are not carrying the show, at least this episode 5. It is Criston Cole and Alicent’s powermove of being late and wearing that green dress that made this amazing.

[@shererid]

Great episode! No senseless and extravagant fight scenes, just great writing, superb acting and costume and compelling drama. Just like Martin intended with ASOIAF. Enjoyed it immensely!

[@nivasramachandiran791]

A truly emotional episode. All strangled up. Can't judge how it's gonna procced & who is gonna turn evil. Eagerly waiting for the next episode.

[@speak_with_calma]

Omg, this is incredible, spin offs rarely work, but the whole crew has achieved an amazing feat! Love it. We have battles, weddings, complex characters, Dragons, intriguing and intelligent dialogues, but it's not a copy of GoT. Way to go!

[@shubhamnema8281]

I just want to say this episode stands as the paragon of storytelling, masterfully done. Each and everything was done so flawlessly, nothing for a moment felt wasted, and the ending was such a surprise. From now onwards, I'm sure weddings in the world of ice and fire do not go that easy and in the future I'll be prepared. Also, much love and thanks to Milly Alcock and Emily Carey for such stupendous start and eloquent performances, I'll definitely miss them and wish to see again on screen.

[@eliocapitelli9617]

Farewell Milly Alcock and Emily Carey, both delivered an incredible performance and will be missed on the further episodes/seasons.

[@alexanderkenway]

Showrunner reads Rhea fell off her horse and dies. Also showrunner "that _obviously_ has to be Daemon"

[@Starlink_Speedtest]

They keep trying to run with this, if the woman is "strong" the Daemon can't get it up.

[@cooki3th1ef]

it's a fair assumption that daemon kills rhea, daemon is known to dislike her and he's in the vale at the time put two and two together

[@juniorlks1]

It is implied in the book that it might have been him. That's the great thing about that particular book, most of the facts are not truly facts, they're versions told by someone who wasn't even there most of the times. The same goes for Rhaenyra and Criston's falling apart. In the book there's the version that she rejected him and the one where he rejected her. Now on the show we get to see the "real" story.

[@TheMonkeymonkeyking]

@@cooki3th1ef According to the ASOIAF wiki, Daemon was in the Stepstones when she died, and flew to the Vale upon hearing the news.

[@EjPwned]

@@TheMonkeymonkeyking yeah there was no need for that… he could’ve hired faceless men to kill her lol

Laenor voice at the end, saying his vows, so sad and heartbroken 😭😭😭😭

[@ad.sasuga1867]

Getting better and better 🔥

[@brysonfreeman7226]

Agreed🔥🔥🔥

[@chaiky6556]

This episode was really, really good at building tension. Well done!

[@ginao6810]

Fantastic episode I love that Ser Cristen asks Rhynera to give up everything to be with him and thinks nothing of it. And she asks him to give up only what he has already given up and he loses his goddamn mind. Oh the entitlement of a boy with a crush!

[@JoseGonzalez-pn5zl]

I love how Daemon walk in to the wedding 🤣🤣🤣 also like how when Alicent come entering Daemon doesn’t stand for her like yea whatever 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

[@citations1ml503]

The Show Just Gets Better And Better🔥

[@EmmanueltheGod]

That quote anger and betrayal making one realize who they truly are is very spot on, aint no lies told!

[@Maxi86inAction]

This show gets better every episode, the green dress was definitely a Rains of castermere moment, I got goosebumps

[@raza4699]

And the tension starts I am loving it Best episode so far

[@00Mindi00]

THE GREEN WEDDING. And BOY was it BRILLIANT, in a totally different way to the red wedding. EQUALLY as dramatic providing just as much a massive turning point in the story. I cannot express enough how satisfying this episode, let alone the entire series so far, has been to watch. I LOVE this show.

[@andreim.5324]

This show was very, very go up until now. It just passed into the realm of amazing with this episode. All hell will break loose after this episode, just like it did in GOT after episode 5. The tradition is kept, I hope they will keep it as far as episodes 9 go as well. I hate Criston Cole, I hate Larys Strong. I love Harwin Strong, I love Rhaenys Targaryen. Those are one of the things this episode underlined. I love the direction they took with the Rhaenyra/Cole affair, I love the choice they did there. Since I read Fire and Blood a few times now, I did not expect to feel any other way at this point, so that is great.

[@angadsingh9314]

have some sympathy for my boi Criston

[@marias.7717]

While I feel that this episode was the perfect culmination for Emily as Allicent (you see her becoming an adult in her desicion making so an older actor is the next step), I don't feel the same way about Milly as Rhaenyra. She is still a teenager here, playing with her prospective lovers. I hope we got to see her turning point, when she realised there was a bigger plan around her.

[@bts_is7]

This

[@sophiekerst5346]

So did Rhaenyra want Daemon to capture her and take her to Dragonstone or did she not?

[@samer.4660]

No she did not and daemon character getting worst

[@donghuaedits]

I understand that she did wanted, but Daemon, once again, run away

[@MysteriousPear802]

she was just taunting him i think

[@rob4926]

@@samer.4660 they get married n have kids king

[@LiaBB]

@@rob4926 I think they marry later on just for convenience. Daemon told Rhaenyra that marriage is just a political arrangement, and Rhaenyra is just now understanding it. At first I thought Daemon only wanted Rhaenyra for the iron throne but now I think it's for both the throne and lust, which is creepy cause he's her uncle...

[@LucerysOwner]

oh my boy this episode left me speechless and I really fell bad for ser Criston... and f Fabien Frankel's acting was so a 10/10! such a good performance

[@warrenzevon4994]

In what world would you feel bad for Criston after what he did, just wait til you see the rest of the season😂

[@melindoranightsilver9298]

I mean, his idea to run off with Rhaenyra was kind of foolish. Your idea was to run off with the King's daughter, you assume she would leave her dragon (which she loves to ride) and her position. Corlys would be upset and presumably Rhaenys may have gone to look for her, Daemon has some connection with her as well so he would have been up in the air. Viscerys would have sent people to look for them. It's possible they could have disappeared but not an absolute. Rhaenyra wasn't going to be happy as the wife of a trader or sell sword. He already disobeyed his vows of chastity, running off with Rhaenyra certainly wouldn't bring back his honor.

[@villanelles_suit7271]

bro feels bad for ser criston after he commits a vicious hate crime in homophobic rage hm.....

[@bugcatcherjacky1334]

@@villanelles_suit7271 I think it was less about 'Homophobic rage' and more so about the fact my guy just told Criston he knew his secret that could ultimately ruin him entirely

[@ousmanjallow7866]

@@bugcatcherjacky1334 Except Criston knows his secret too, so weak point.

[@matayolandas]

I feel sorry for the people who had to clean the mess after the wedding.

[@mike90317]

And the caterers lol

[@MetalGamer666]

I hope we get a good explanation for how Criston is allowed to walk around freely after striking the future king consort and murdering his favored knight. I know he is the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, so I guess only the king and queen can order his arrest, but still.

[@SayakMunshi]

Moment of the episode : When Alicent confronts Ser Criston with that night's details, and Ser Criston unaware of what she would ask ends up telling the actual truth she had no clue of. That expression on Alicent's face clearly states she was in shock and more, saddened. I think she has a soft corner in her heart for Ser Criston. As we also see in the last scene when she stops him for killing himself.

[@gopipavi9653]

It's not soft corner for Ser Criston..It's sympathizing with him and the mutual feeling of how the Targaryens have used them ...like how their entire existence and purpose is now tied to the Targaryen vices...that oaths or precedence or traditions don't matter...that they (Targaryens) are the law and perhaps even the seven God's only answered their prayers...that's why Alicent/Cole are seen mostly in the Godswood than in the sept in their most vulnerable moments.

[@markmywords3817]

Alicent is no innocent either. She kept a secret from Rhaenyra as well, having secret "talks" with Viserys in order to further their own family line. She wouldn't be torn between her family and Targaryens if it weren't for his scheming father. She very much well could've stayed friends with Rhaenyra if she didn't marry Viserys.

[@SayakMunshi]

@@gopipavi9653 I liked your perspective. Quite right in fact. Rhaenyra is pretty cool about continuing things as they were going with Cole but he clearly felt being used by the Princess. That look on Cole's face when watching Rhaenyra dance with Laenor. was impactful. Think this is gonna create resentment for Rhaenyra in Ser Criston's mind. Looks like he would be in the Green party soon enough.

[@indiankid8601]

@@gopipavi9653 It is not soft corner. She will use criston's anger against rhynaera that's why she saved his life. Criston will become rhynaera's sworn enemy.

[@adbylsh2756]

@@markmywords3817 but she had no choice she was forced by her father and you can’t refuse an proposal made by the king himself

[@psevdhome]

It's sad that Alicent falls to Otto's paranoia and manipulation. There is no reason for there to be war if Rhaenyra ascends the throne. However, war is necessary if Aegon II is to rule. Make no mistake: Otto is the culprit and should pay the price for his overreach.

[@CampusMania]

Well, Rhaenyra lied and Alicent believed her, which resulted in her father being dismissed. Also, Otto has a point, at this point in time people won't accept a female ruler easily. Even if Alicent gives up, there will always be some people claiming that Aegon (Alicent's son) should be the king. So, Otto is totally right here, Alicent and her kids might be murdered when Viserys dies. I'm not saying that Otto is a good guy and he's trying to make good things to the realm. I'm just saying that there is no one innocent here. Rhaenyra is not an angel. Hell, she just asked Criston Cole to be her whore!

[@tornikebukhrashvili2170]

@@CampusMania if they raised Aegon by telling him that her sister will be queen , it might not go to war . But if you raise him by telling him you should be king and take crown from your sister , there will be war

[@CampusMania]

@@tornikebukhrashvili2170 There is a big chance that he might get killed if Rhaenyra became queen. To avoid any claims for the throne, Alicent's kids have to be murdered. So, the role of thumb here, as Cersei once said: "When you play the game of thrones you win or you die. There is no middle ground."

[@sulphurland]

If you believe rhaenyra will not kill alicent's son for iron throne..you're the dumbest😅🤣

[@CaptainPikeachu]

@@CampusMania I hardly think that we ought to be following lessons from Cersei of all people. There could have been a united front between Alicent and Rhaenyra, but the reality is paranoia and anger and revenge are just easier emotions to access and play into than trying to do the work of actually making a real difference.

[@amberlambert7040]

This episode is a masterpiece!

[@batgurrl]

That was an amazing episode and I was on the edge of my seat waiting for chaos to ensue. So happy the green dress appeared. Christon Cole has a deep sense of honor and I was so glad he was stopped from his guilt trip

[@melindoranightsilver9298]

If he values his honor more he wouldn't have slept with Rhaenyra in the first place. Also, running off with Rhaenyra and marrying her wouldn't have restored his honor. In fact, it would have made things worse.

[@celliott5021]

This episode was wonderfully mastered, bravo! Sunday needed to be the next day.

[@Munards]

Alicent becoming something of her own this episode

[@dreamslove1184]

I like a lot of things about the episode but how could criston Cole leave the room without consequences after killing without consideration a guest that was so close to the future king consort ,his squire,he also punched that same king consort? . Also what happened with Daemon,he was almost kissing Rhaenyra and then he just vanished and Rhaenyra didn't care bc she was just asking for Laenor ?it doesn't make sense.

[@raemontargaryen3005]

i love how this shows having alot of brothers dynamic. how Daemon is such a contrasts to Viserys’s nerdiness and peace loving nature. Otto trying to take his part as a Hightower(probably to outdo his older brother by placing his daughter as a wife to the king to make his heir to be a future king). the contrasts between the Lannister twins (the wise and the arrogant) and larys and Harwin strong . one the muscle and other the “brain”. ❤❤❤. SPOILER ALERT cant wait to see the dynamic between Alicents sons.

[@Aemond2024]

yes. The brother dynamic is very cool in this show. Cant wait to see Aegon, Aemond and Daeron

[@rsderek81]

So happy that the show is High Quality ⭐️

[@alienx6096]

While watching that wedding scene , my PTSD due to the Red Wedding in GOT started to kick in. I'm going to miss Milly and Emily❤️🥺

[@HB-ey2dk]

You can't really compare this wedding to the red wedding. This one was mild compared lol.

[@day_day_]

Episode 5 gave us more than what we could expect! Kudos to the creators!

[@CoolsBreeze]

And then Alicent saves Cristen Cole later on. What a powerful episode for her.

[@jorjevanelle9879]

This show is already LEGENDARY!

[@pbh9195]

I really am going to miss the young reanyra and Alicent actors

[@SajadAli-ji9qi]

This Series Is One Of The Goat I Have Ever Seen

[@Supre3m3Kai]

I don't see how you can go behind your best friends back, conspire to seize power by manipulating their father into marrying you, and then get that upset over a little lie. Alicent.

[@TheKeeroop]

I absolutely ADORE Alicent as a character. She is that kind of character that has to work with a reality that she didn't choose and makes the best of to survive

[@jazzie4437]

When Alicent walked down those stairs and the music swelled… goosebumps.

[@ryanrodriguez644]

I love Ryan Condal's insights in these. You can tell he's such a nerd with the books because he's always talking about how they adapted certain things.

[@kw8714]

Alicent strikes me as a hypocrite. She set this entire thing off with her father. She is not innocent.

[@Jacaerys1]

Right, she lied to Rhaenyra all while sleeping with her father, so Alicent can kick rocks for all I care.

[@aluminumelon]

Naw she was manipulated by her father, stuck her neck out to her best friend and lied, and on top of that she's the only one that actually tried to stick to her vows and duty while Rhaenyra wants to have her cake and eat it

[@eloeden2056]

@@Jacaerys1 lmaoooo so true. the audacity the girl has !! she was quick to forget the way she became queen it seems. but i think it comes down to two things : she feels alone and is hurt that even her best friend lied to her + she’s super mad her best friend gets to have sex with a handsome knight while she’s stuck with dying grandpa that she was forced to bed on Otto’s will. In episode 1 you can tell Alicent was excited to meet ser Cole so it’s like a double tragedy for her really

[@staycgirls6148]

@@aluminumelon i mean, that is what game of thrones is all about no? vows and duties vs freedom. the world isn't necessarily just black and white, the same goes for the world GRRM built.

[@aluminumelon]

@@staycgirls6148 while I agree with that, I just find Alicent being a product of other people's decisions on her while Rhaenyra being selfish for the most part

[@marshelrenold3128]

That note of piano at the end of t he episode..... Lord of Music Ramin Djawadi....😍😍😍😍

[@m.worthy]

*Rhaenyra:* _"I prefer "roast duck" to "goose"._ 😳🤯😵🤣😆😂 *Laenor:* _"It's not for a lack of trying._ _There are those who like "goose" very well."_ 🤣😆😋😁 *Rhaenyra:* _"I find it a bit greasy for my taste."_ 🤯😵😆🤣😁 _"...will not change your appetites, nor will it change mine...when it's done, each of us dines as we see fit."_ 🍽

[@kateris1976]

In the books, when Laenor's lack of interest in women is mentioned in the council, Mellos says "I don't like fish but when fish is served I eat it". I suppose that's where they took the inspiration from to talk about food.

[@xchuckytx]

As someone that''s read the books, all I will say is the action/bloodshed/# of dragons we encounter only skyrockets from here, and I'm here for it. ALL of it! Alicent in that green dress had me in fanboying to the umpteenth degree even though I'm #TeamBlack. Awesome job by Milly and Emily for portraying Alicent and Rhaenyra PERFECTLY!

[@irish_ale]

I can literally watch Fabien playing Criston, who fell head over heels in love with Rhaenyra and being naive or something, with no sound and understand everything his obsessed character goes through, what an amazing acting! This episode is like an avalanche moving towards you - everything is just getting worse and worse with every minute, and there is no way to stop it. That's lovely🔥

[@Colin-kh6kp]

I'm always shocked when Viscerys is in the previews for the next episode...