How a Chemistry Student created ‘The Mother of Satan’: A Deadly Explosive (TATP)

[@HLevesley]

Thank you for watching this video! This video was created for my final year chemistry project so thank you for any feedback.

[@qracle]

Not a first year student, but a Chartered chemist with 15 years experience here, and I found this remarkably well put together, presented and refreshing. Organic chemistry was challenging for me, as I lack any visual memory and have a blank minds-eye, but I think I would have had a much easier time in 200-level organic chem with lectures of this caliber. Great work.

[@petevenuti7355]

How did you manage to have a successful hyperlink? KZbin has not been good about allowing posting of links lately.

[@francisdec1615]

She doesn't know much explosives chemistry, though. TATP was accidentally discovered by the German chemist Richard Wolffenstein in 1895, not by someone in Bristol many decades later. And TNT isn't sensitive at all, although it's very potent. It's one of the most stable secondary explosives existing. Nitroglycerin on the other hand is potent AND sensitive.

[@ayhamhalalsheh221]

I would like to see more videos like this video ❤

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

I made several hundred grams of TATP one time as a teenager. While it's not quite as sensitive as people say when made properly, if made improperly using H2SO4 or not minding the reaction temperature you can end up with a considerable amount of the dimer, which is a LOT more sensitive. I don't recommend messing around with organic peroxides at all. They're just far too unpredictable and can detonate for no apparent reason. There are far more stable and safe primaries if you're interested in energetics.

[@EdwardTriesToScience]

^^^ you can hit it with a hammer and sometimes it doesn't do anything whatsoever, the problem is that even from the identical batch it may vary, a bit here might go off when struck but a bit there might do nothing at all even when struck a few times hence its a horrible thing to handle

[@francisdec1615]

HMTD is both more powerful AND less sensitive and you only need citric acid as a catalyst.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@francisdec1615 I’ve had HMTD detonate out of nowhere while drying, it has an undeserved reputation for being a safer organic peroxide, but I’ve heard of more accidents with it than any other.

[@EdwardTriesToScience]

as with all organic peroxides though there is always a higher probability of detonation compared to other explosives, but yes HMTD is "safer"

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@EdwardTriesToScience I’m going to have to disagree on that, with hexamine you end up with a number of side products that can make it considerably more unpredictable and sensitive. My advice would be to stay away from the entire class of compounds. TATP is volatile which can lead to large sensitive crystals forming but HMTD occasionally does really unexpected things despite using all the care in the world during synthesis. It’s the only compound I’ve had randomly detonate for no apparent reason.

[@philouzlouis2042]

Hi, I'm a chemical and biochemistry engineer specialized into organic chemistry; I love chemistry and energetic materials and I'm busy for 35 years into newsgroup and chemistry forum. I love your videos. I have to mention that the compound is often named improperly TATP (triaceton triperoxyde ) or TACP (triaceton cyclo peroxyde) while it should be CTAP (cyclo-triaceton peroxyde). When you watch at the monomeric patern of the molecule (-C(CH3)2C-O-O-) and into the cyclic trimer (-C(CH3)2-O-O-)3 you will notice that it is an ether kind (or dehydrated form at the molecular level). HO-C(CH3)2-O-O-H + HO-C(CH3)2-O-O-H --> HO-C(CH3)2-O-O-C(CH3)2-O-O-H + H2O HO-C(CH3)2-O-O-C(CH3)2-O-O-H + HO-C(CH3)2-O-O-H --> HO-C(CH3)2-O-O-C(CH3)2-O-O-C(CH3)2-O-O-H + H2O HO-C(CH3)2-O-O-C(CH3)2-O-O-C(CH3)2-O-O-H --> CTAP + H2O Usually the reaction is faster in acidic media because catalysed by H(+); this is why often HCl or H2SO4 or citric acid are present dilluted into the process. As a solid the poly-organic peroxyde is higly sensitive to friction, shock and heat. This is wel known for / from organic chemist because there are procedures for handling solvents that can form and build up sensitive peroxydes, and noone really want an explosion into a bottle of flamable volatile solvent within a lab while handling glasware (glass schrapnells cut but also transpierce flesh and break valuable glassware). Also the velocity of detonation (VOD) of the shock wave propagation into a solid is higher than into a liquid. Note that CDAP can be made out of two monomeric units and make an hexaring (what is "somehow" more stable; it is liquid and also highly dangerous; OK a little less sensitive to friction and shock but like most peroxides dangerous an explosible / detonable under critical mass and selfconfinement. There is a mention of a cyclic tetramer (CTeAP) that is supposely slighly more stable, solid, higher in density and that should therefore display higher detonic parameters. CTAP was studied by the army as a potential energetic material for amunitions but it was abandonned due to its unstable nature and volatility (recrystallisation). CTAP has also the bad habit to sublime and pass from solid crystals into a gaseous form and redeposit onto larger crystals; as such it easily gather tiny cristals (evaporating faster due to larger surface area) that recondense onto larger crystals (condensation is faster on those than evaporation); The effect is of course beautifull but the large crystals are even more dangerous, because they often get natural lattice defects what makes them very sensitive to friction, shock, heat or external-stressy because there they are inerently inner-stressed what lowers their decomposition energy (read activation energy) and trigger them easier into D2D transition. Often when you make it (on purpose), you get too much, way more than expected and when you know its danger, you have to take rid of it; and when you make it accidentaly (it is of course way more than unexpected ;o) ) (aceton and peroxydes and acid are easily mixed in labs; so this kind of incident is highly frequent especially for common people or chemist not aware of the compound). Just as a side note about 15 years ago I was working into an environment analyse lab for soil, water and air; once an organism into Brussel brought to the lab a sample out of a PE bottles. One of that institution worker claimed that they were investigating water for aceton because fishes and ducks were found dead into a lake into the center of Brussel city; I launched an analyse in urgency for large spectre (GC-MS and other basic analysis out of his sample bottle). Then I exposed to him that aceton can't kill fishes or ducks especially if dilluted into as a large volume of water as a lake; I said that even we - humans - sometimes suffer from digestive "aceton" crisis, what is unpleasant but not mortal. I asked him why he brought that sample and why he wished to analyse aceton on it? He explained me that divers found at the bottom of the lake a labelless PE bottle capped and that it ressembled bottles usually found in commerce or brico shop that may contain aceton. I asked him what happened when he oppened the bottle for transfer and splitting into our analysis bottle; he claimed that it fumed a lot. I explained him that fuming in the air is often due to strongly concentrated acids or halogenated acids that react with air and release HCl upon hydrolysis from air moisture. Our lab result fall and not usual compound could be analysed by the GC-MS; but inside the aside parameters was indication of a low pH and the presence of chloride anion; I suggested him that maybe what was inside the bottle and that could match all his observations was a tentative to make CTAP and that a prior bottle did explode under water into the lake thus killing fishes and ducks by the hydrodynamic shockwave from the blast; and that a second bottle didn't exploded. The day after he called me back to express that my intuition was valid and expressed for conclusion into his repport because during the night; the lab-fridge of the police forensic (that was holding a sample for evidence) did explode shattering fridge door and content. I hope this helps, PHZ (PHILOU Zrealone from the Science Madness forum)

[@margodphd]

That was an incredibly interesting, valuable read, thank You!❤

[@luckyuize]

I'm literally crying

[@rdallas81]

Acetone can kill in large volumes of water. Absolutely. Depends on where the acetone entered the water and the concentration in certain areas

[@philouzlouis2042]

@@luckyuize The making can make you cry if during preparation reactants are not cooled enough, then HCl, H2O2 and aceton easily runnaway into boiling fluid exhausting gaseous droplets; while 70% vapour is not fun with aceton vapour; some pure O2 from 30-50% H2O2 is a bit corrosive (like my humour ;o) ) just like the 30% HCl (higly corrositve to metals, especially iron that sooner or later will rust); but all this is nearly nothing if you consider the trace of volatilized CH3-CO-CH2Cl what is a powerful lacrymator...thus you could not only litteraly cry but physically cry all the tears of your eyes. (I know what I write about because I made that mistake once in a closed room and the house had to be windows and doors open for a few time despite the "tiny" 100ml beaker container put outside into the garden - I don't know why, but it was the saddest of all my experiments ;o) ) PHZ

[@philouzlouis2042]

@@rdallas81 Large volume of water can kill no matter the amount of aceton dissolved into it; nor the amount of blood into the alcohol ;o) .

[@kristijanpete4473]

this is so so good and exactly at the Ochem-1 level for chemical engineers, thank you so much and I'm looking forward to more videos if you are planning to keep making them :)

[@RichardSavage76]

This was a court ordered safety video to pay for the fire engines and bomb squad.

[@cjtoombs7473]

Took organic chemistry in about 1992 and haven’t used it since. This video gave me flashbacks:)

[@Chaney_Johnson_Fan]

just finished o-chem 1 and i am very happy i was able to follow everything in the video

[@f800gt76]

Back into my childhood we did TATP many times. Years after I still wonder how all my fingers are still in place

[@MegaRaze]

how do you make it

[@f800gt76]

@@MegaRaze with ease ))

[@janaydlowery6952]

@@f800gt76can i get a tut?

[@firewalldaprotogen]

i barely know what this means but its 12:05 am and im watching it

[@jagmarc]

I appreciate that explaining in detail the exact mechanism can be a way of implementing safeguards to prevent a re occurring. But can see problems in that, 1. An explanation has to be watertight accurate and not contain errors (unless errors are intentional). 2. Even then human error can happen anyway no matter how knowelgable of hazard. Clever video, whoever behind this knows what they are doing and doing a good job.

[@liamf5311]

Wish you would upload more. Organic chemistry geek here. I had an impressive lab when I was in my teens til mid twenties....made many things I shouldn't have.

[@mixmashandtinker3266]

A VERY descriptive video. It was ages ago i did any form of chemistry, but were able to follow along anyhow. Very nicely done!

[@darklightmotion5534]

6:07 shouldnt the triple bonded Oxygen be positive and the single bonded one positive?

[@BoredCoat]

High-quality content, carry on!

[@ilkling]

What? Jeez, I don't even know how many times I've made this stuff as a kid in batches yielding over 50g. I think I even threw up a video of a functional blasting cap mixture on my channel, although I barely handled anything that needed them before gravitating more towards rocketry and the like. Although I'm reluctant these days to ever mess with this stuff anymore, TATP was at least safe enough to handle carefully in small quantities and it always took a solid swing of a hammer or something to detonate. I guess I can see a lot of precaution because it was an organic peroxide made accidentally in probably less-than-ideal settings, likely consisting of the even more unpredictable DADP form, unneutralized from who knows what catalyst... All that aside, I read up on this energetic pretty thoroughly over the years. This video went over details I've never really considered, and it explained the processes in a way that's hard to find in any other source. This kind of in-depth look into a chemical substance I've mostly grown bored of sparked new understanding and was enlightening.

[@Crazykungfu616]

super engaging!! Can't believe ya only got 230 subs, can't wait to see this channel blow up

[@cuddlepaws4423]

Three things : 1 we live in Bristol , 2 : you are such a cutie 🥰🥰🤩 3 : you have a big brain ☺ . I passed Chemistry 16+ but that was back in 1983 !!! This made me go cross eyed 😵‍💫 We have seen on other channels how sensitive TATP is 💥💥💥, just don't make it ......... ever .

[@garouHH]

Someone recently fled from the police in Berlin, leaving behind a bag with 530g of TATP, so I was interested in how they could have produced it. The whole part about the reactions was mostly words coming at me, with your diagrams playing as TV visuals in my head, and little to no understanding going on. Then you described the incident, and I understood how the blood must have drained from the advisor's face when the student said what they just did. And probably from the student's before that. And then I checked in with my flatmate whether they knew what the ingredients are, and told them the tale from pouring one liquid into another to there being four fire engines in front of an empty university building. And then I continued watching. And then the army appeared on the scene.

[@StreamMeUpScotty]

this was what i needed this morning, super video. hope for more

[@samcorder408]

Seriously high quality video, good stuff!

[@barry7608]

Thanks that was an incredible story, the chemistry was a bit deep for me but I tried to follow it. Delightful presentation and a great outcome, 30g and 1 could kill !!

[@kevlar4121]

6:08 . There's an électronic problem with the + and - charges, they are inverted. Indeed, the carbonyl oxygen should get the - charge not the + and the peroxyde oxygen should bear the + not the -. Nevertheless, excellent job !

[@pleappleappleap]

Thank God that the student realized what they had done before something bad happened.

[@lastcent5140]

Might be worth normalising the audio but pretty damn high quality, good stuff.

[@lancecrane740]

I believe you've mistaken your charges. When the ketone becomes a deprotonated alcohol, it becomes negative. When oxygen has 3 bonds, it is positive.

[@ezra9521]

Instead of deprotonated alcohol, we call them “Alkoxides.” I believe this is a bit easier to follow as a ketone becoming an alkoxide instead of referring to that structure as a deprotonated alcohol, because the latter may indicate a type of rxn occuring that is not. I could be incorrect and I welcome any correction and/or clarification!

[@refluxcatalyst7190]

"deprotonated alcohol" in this context is probably the most vague, ambiguous way you could describe an alkoxide ion.

[@richardlyman2961]

@@refluxcatalyst7190Not really what other way is there to interpret it as other than an alkoxide? Not ambiguous bozo

[@HLevesley]

Thank you for spotting that! This video is for a BSc project I’m doing so that really helped me out

[@lancecrane740]

@ezra9521 that's great! I just forgot the word lol!

[@persiangnome2584]

6:37 in the charged species why is the oxygen positively charged? i think it should be negatively charged and the OH oxygen should be positive or am i mistaken?

[@hantrio4327]

No you are right

[@evanreboli7902]

I noticed this two just switch them and its good

[@persiangnome2584]

​@@evanreboli7902 ok thanks

[@nikiTricoteuse]

This was interesting and while l didn’t understand all of it - l loved that it was being explained to me by a clearly knowledgeable and passionate young woman - it's been 50 years since l was at school and l was forced to study languages and not permitted to study sciences at my all girls school. It brings me joy to see how much times have changed. I would have loved to know how the threat was neutralised though.

[@ronblack7870]

back when i was in college late 70's chemical engineering had the most women students of all engineering. quit a few .

[@nikiTricoteuse]

@@ronblack7870 That's cool! I never made it as far as college but l imagine there would have been lots of women doing all sorts of interesting things. I think my school was training us to be the wives of diplomats - I couldn't think of another explanation for the odd mix of things we were and were not allowed to learn. 😏

[@john-ic5pz]

@niki i want to hear more about the disposal too! ❤️‍🩹

[@SynthoidSounds]

I'm not even a chemist, but the video is quite enjoyable, as I could grasp many of the concepts as they were being presented. Back in the ancient days of my youth (mastodons were still walking around then), I had considered chemistry at UC Berkeley, but opted for microelectronics instead. Very sadly, there was a prof who had suffered some type of terrible accident (maybe TATP, I don't know), his face was horribly disfigured as a result. At the very worst, the most damage I could cause would be frying a circuit board (which I did manage to do), but at least not horrific explosions, toxic fumes and all that.

[@NexisNX]

In Russia some of TATP users commonly calls this substance "kisa" (kitty, literally).

[@IlusysSystems]

Once again we have been summoned and brought together here. Why? Only the Algorithm knows.

[@waldovanderwesthuizen4557]

I love that you are here, it makes sense. I actually have a pretty tragic reason for being here...😅

[@pibin5557]

A great start of new chem channel, however i would recommend to include more details and mechanisms that are not as easy as mentioned in the video

[@HLevesley]

Thanks for the feedback! Which mechanisms do you think needed more details?

[@tibr]

i dunno i think they did it very well :3

[@creepysk7975]

I'm slowly starting to regret studying IT and not chemistry.

[@glennhoetker2721]

Really nicely explained. Thanks!

[@jimsvideos7201]

Slamming doors, bad. Slamming roors, potentially fatal.

[@jacksonterrell6119]

this is great, love to see new faces in the youtube chem community

[@AtomicKepler]

What a bloody underrated channel! It is a little too complicated for me, but DAMN it's good!!!!!

[@vegbetle]

charges are inverted at 6:08

[@alpal4245]

3:57 taking organic chemistry now and my professor has mentioned something called hyperconjugation being a much greater factor in carbocation stability than inductive effects

[@dobbi6083]

Yeah, carbocations and radicals are being stabalized by the same effects, you got your hyperconjugation and inductive effect stabalizing here. Usually the strength of these effect is mesomeric > hyperconjugation > inductive effect.

[@lanbroghini]

In this case I think that the +I effect of methyl is the hyperconjugation effect because the C-C bond is not polar there is no inductive effect.

[@AdrianAvendaño-w5i]

Thank you, really important info, I've made little quantities only just in case

[@abbasbvohra]

a very good explanation

[@christopherleubner6633]

As long as it is wet it isnt too terible, they use it mixed with a little flour and a small cup of petrol for creating the explosion fireball special effects for movies in the days before CGI. A typical movie shot with a car blowing up would have 100g of TATP, 300g of flour, and 2 cups of gasoline. They made up the tatp in 50g lots and mixed with 150g of flour to make up the amount needed, but never exceeding 300g tatp for obvious safety reasons.😮

[@EddieTheH]

Good stuff! I look forward to seeing more from your channel!

[@ABehrooz]

TL;DR: Don't play with peroxide, kids. I was actually gonna make a gram of TATP and explode it to see just how bad it is. I guess if 30 grams summons the bomb squad I might go with a few miligrams for my experiment.

[@snakerattleroll6678]

So, hypothetically; how would one go about unmaking a bunch of TATP without setting it off?

[@Felixkeeg]

You don't basically. It's far too dangerous to quench. You could add it gradually to a reducing agent, but if the process of transfering it is itself a potential cause for decomposition, this is not a good idea.

[@dobbi6083]

@@Felixkeegyou can solve it in a bit of acetone, definitely better than having crystals of it. Official way is calling the bomb squad, unofficial way is to reduce it like diethylether peroxides, red neck way is to burn it in small batches or flush it down in diluted form. IF this happened in uni or work, i'd just tell the supervisor, if you're messing around at home without permission, yeah

[@DavidHonig-b9e]

Dilute and disperse. Flush

[@b43xoit]

"one student . . . themselves"? Lack of number agreement.

[@floorpizza8074]

You can thank the Woke movement and their conscription of existing words being assigned as singular pronouns when previously they referred to plural. Although in a (lame) attempt to make it more clear, they have invented the new word "theyself." You must remember that the 1% needs to be represented 100% of the time.

[@KuCur-ed2or]

Nice delivery and beautiful 😅

[@flickerbird]

"this student has added hydrogen peroxide to the acetone in their reaction mixture as a part of completely different safety measure" i can't imagine a safety measure where hydrogen peroxide is mixed with acetone

[@HLevesley]

There is more information on why this was done on the Chemistry World paper. Hydrogen peroxide was added to remove chlorine dioxide from the reaction. Hope this helps. www.chemistryworld.com/news/investigation-reveals-missteps-by-student-who-unwittingly-made-explosive-/2500470.article

[@abbasbvohra]

Not just explosives, but i believe strongly, in future for energy generation and other such energy to work applications, peroxides will also be used more and more.

[@aga5897]

Excellent video. Very well done indeed !

[@林二郎-k5h]

Please PLEASE add a one or two second pause for the 'pause the video' ,It leave too little time to react

[@burdo6649]

Only issue is how at 6:08 does the carbonyl oxygen have a +ve charge after nucleophilic attack, this looks completely wrong. 2nd year MChem student at UoLiverpool

[@burdo6649]

The same occurs at 6:34

[@danielaustin7643]

oh, this was my university just before I started, it was always talked about in the pb, many years after

[@petrmasek4506]

Well that is so good. Keep it coming :)) ofc besides the little silly mistake, it was very well done :-))

[@thecossackcrusaderofholybr8448]

Please make more videos they a we really good!

[@C134B]

awesome content, high quality stuff right here! subscribed

[@umbrellastation25]

Your channel is excellent for the amount of views and subscribers you get. Keep it up.

[@djisydneyaustralia]

0:36 sounds more like it could have been a kilo-ton of fun

[@jalkopchelki7401]

Liked the video, keep on with the good stuff

[@Volundur9567]

When the student was already cautioned against using the hydrogen peroxide, why did they do it anyways? That should be grounds for disciplinary action.

[@vishva8kumara]

Both are found in cosmetics. It is Hair Color Developer and Nail Polish Remover. Hair Color Developer is often buffered. But it was not so 10 years ago.

[@novaenricarter705]

How do you find subjects to talk about on KZbin?

[@WhatWouldVillainsDo]

Ive worked as a butcher for a large chunk.of my life and someone had some godawful old cleaning chems in a janitors closet for almoat half a century,dont know what it was but it crystalized into some nasty explosives enough to take out a rather large shopping center id it went off. I think.i have seen solid peroxides that were touch sensative explosives.

[@michaelflattery2298]

Excellent video! I'm a maths PhD but once upon a time I did take first year Chemistry at university and I think I followed your video fairly well... mostly (it has been over a decade since those days)

[@NicksGotBeef]

Surely they could have kept this in its wet form as it’s pretty stable when wet. Or dissolve in acetone and then further react to create a stable compound?

[@ПавелКуликов-м9м]

На 1:00 старт Шаттла? Двигатели, которые показаны на видео работают на H2 и O2, перекисей там точно нет. И в твердотопливных ускорителях перхлораты, если не ошибаюсь, хотя тут я бы послушал знающих людей.. :) Но космические ракеты на перекиси водорода еще летают. Р-7 и ее потомки, например Союз до сих пор имеют весьма архаичные движки с открытым циклом, где привод турбонасосов работает как раз на перекиси. )

[@CatboyChemicalSociety]

I saw a really bad paper talking about creating oxiranes on linear alkenes in ffa or triglycerides and it said to put the oil in acetone and add 35% peroxide and add H2SO4 and when I saw this I was like nono I am not following this booby trapped google patent. I then later found out that u can substitute acetone for glacial acetic acid so I used that. iirc another university student followed that bad patent and an incident occured.

[@Westhamsterdam]

Can I ask a question? How do you know the chemical structures of things? Take sassafras oil how do you know the entire sequence of atoms in the oil? piperonal methyl ketone looks very closely related to sassafras. There is another North American herb as well which I have forgotton the name. What is the difference between amphetamine & meth in terms of chemical synthesis? OK, this may appear a bit of crude example but many prescription medicines will follow the same synthesis in terms of say things like methylene (I assume to get the carbon ring). When amphetamines were first synthesized what were the main precursors? We know meth was first synthesized using Ephedrine

[@ishaalimtiaz6715]

Wow this is FUN :)

[@evzone84]

Brilliant, but just showed me how bad my knowledge of chemistry is.

[@Ismaelak]

Peroxyde bond are analogous to my romantic relationship. Unstable and explosive 😂.

[@baladar1353]

1:13 - Are you sure? What was wrong in that sentence?

[@davidduff9871]

And how did they dispose of so much explosives and still allow the school and classes to resume? No damage was done?

[@noahleuer721]

Did she just trick us into learning something?

[@NicksGotBeef]

Think nitrogen Tri-iodide is a little more fun to play with. Hehe

[@Gajsu1]

All he needed to do was to filter it out through the paper filter, rinse with deionized water, and drop the filter with the wet TATP into the acetone. Wet TATP is almost not sensitive, it would all dissolve into the acetone and make a solution. Such solution is not explosive anymore. Then he could dispose of it by burning it or some other measures.

[@danielmarequeiglesias5015]

So the university could go back to normal after a bomb disposal team blew up the lab?

[@stephanbrunker]

That was also my thought - either it is not as powerful as described, or the lab was in dire need of a full reconstruction ...

[@humr2346]

"best way" how to accidently prepare it is to wash glassware with acetone after piranha solution bath. :D

[@MissionSilo]

I have questions about getting qualified in chemistry without a college degree

[@petevenuti7355]

How are peroxides generally made from quenones ? (Or however you spell it) Do you think it would be a good basis for a system of solar energy storage? That is, using redox active organics in a peroxide cycle to energize the electrolyte of a light charged flow battery?

[@Alan_Watkin]

well reading these comments you seem to achieved amassing the full spectrum of human intellect, oh and one or two creatures as well 🤫🤭

[@pew8208]

isnt HMTD even more unstable?

[@pew8208]

@@PolKem idk wikipedia says hmtd is more unstable than tatp, also people might avoid petn and other stuff cuz making them may be difficult and expensive or unavailable precursors

[@petevenuti7355]

If you make big crystals of hmtd or have an impure mix with metal contamination then yes it could be more sensitive, but with the typical impurities of side products and its own breakdown overtime I would say no. But ttap I found to be so sensitive that if you spilled even a little bit of dust on the floor it'll go off under your feet so that when you walk it is feeling something like pop rocks do in your mouth. It seems obvious to me how incredibly dangerous to ones self and others having a large amount around would be. I'd rather play frogger in real life on the freeway the mess around with that stuff. I'll stick to benzoyl peroxide, it's just so much more legitimate (legally speaking) and good for pimples too.

[@pew8208]

@@petevenuti7355 if u wanna stabilise tatp, just let it be wet, dont dry it out completely(might affect performance but not a lot - depends on how wet it is)

[@francisdec1615]

It's the other way around, at least if you make HMTD from pure precursors. PETN is relatively simple to make, IF you have acids and pentaeritrythol.

[@gaboplantas]

Amazing

[@reinhardtristaneugen9113]

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[@floorpizza8074]

You are a Large Language Model AI in the early stages of being trained, aren't you? Either that, or you've been drinking some moonshine of ambiguous quality.

[@reinhardtristaneugen9113]

Oh you think so really? Now in case you insist on your technique of manipulation by reducing the given possibilites down to just two thereby creating an alleged contravalence, where the law of the excluded middle holds,though it does not, I opt for the first integral of being a Large Language Model AI in the early stages of being trained, if you may allow me to opt so. Furthermore my Christian Faith is the reason, why I do feel just charity and no harm at all with respect to what you suggest. I thank you very much for being impressed by me, but that is not my intention for I just exist, and my words are my medium to communicate as they are for everyone else. I like pizza very much and can eat quite a few of 'em and isn't that just great? Le p'tit Daniel , in case I want to run ever for the White House, I guess I got your vote, ne'est-ce pas?@@floorpizza8074

[@floorpizza8074]

@@reinhardtristaneugen9113 "I thank you very much for being impressed by me" Oh, I never said I was impressed. Please correct your LLM accordingly. You'll get there someday... just not today.

[@reinhardtristaneugen9113]

yeah you didn't say so, that is right, and it was being implied by me you being impressed by me... ...and I beg my pardon in doing so and God for sure protects you, wherever you are heading... Le p'tit Daniel@@floorpizza8074

[@doomtho42]

Oh god, sometimes my brain is just too immature for me to even deal with. Try as I might, I can’t help but giggle to myself like a 12-year old boy every time I hear the term “homolytic cleavage” - I’m not even entirely sure why.

[@danielgawedzki3425]

Unrelated to the content of the video, but great fit dude

[@applekelly1152]

Pretty good explanations and thank you for the elaboration~

[@brettmoore3194]

Sounds like than most lengthy process to obtain the scary product. I bet under vacuum a hexaperoxide penta acetone could form. But the air pressure lettingbin could set off suchba substance withba 100x potential

[@tsclly2377]

Maybe it was formed under a partial vacuum.. or it was sitting on the filter with the solution flask underneath being sucked by a partial vacuum.. in the hood..and then the student freaked out... as the mistakes where pointed out and the just fled letting the authorities to deal with the mess. She leaves a lot out, but does expose the incompetence... thus I assume the incompetence was compounded.

[@der_Echsenmann]

tatp isnt deadly at a single gramm. for it to be realy leathal you would need a ammount like 50g to 100g and proper fragmentation.

[@Korppi00]

Isn't TNT really stable? That's why it was so popular back in the days.

[@merseyviking]

Did the student get kicked out, or get honours? :)

[@yellowflag4803]

we had someone make this in highschool chem class

[@williambradley611]

Subscriber 172 here

[@uuu12343]

"Oops---" **BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM**

[@guyvandenbroeck8405]

I thought it to be Azidoazide azide. Check that one out....

[@nastaureg5199]

if you use a plasticizer homemade the TATP is less deadly

[@maxwillacy-kuhn6396]

Oxygen is an oxidizer not a rocket "fuel"😢

[@HLevesley]

You’re right. Hydrogen peroxide is used in rocket fuel as a liquid rocket propellant not actual fuel

[@floorpizza8074]

@@HLevesley I could be wrong about this, but I believe that "propellant" refers to both the oxidizer and the fuel itself. Hydrogen peroxide would be the oxidizer, which, when mixed with the fuel, becomes the "propellant."

[@tsclly2377]

Why was it not frozen with liquid N2? Perhaps starting with Argon .. That's a viable solution of nitroglycerin that is another super unstable chemical..

[@Strobie_one]

Freezing primary explosives can cause rapid decomposition in some cases as the material thaws out. But you’re on the correct path. The compound/solution could have been rendered safe by simply reacting it with X to produce y.

[@WeebRemover4500]

wha, 1 gram deadly? 30g is barely and you really gotta handle it properly-wrong aha ay, one time i got a private message from some 14 year old who told me hes got 80 grammes drying in his basement, i got a bit sweaty hands. i dont remember what i wrote him or how he handled it but he didnt die and there was one video on YT where a guy figured out he could stabilize the damn thing using engine oil, the video showed him molding the sphere of 500g material, it has also been used in 80-20 mixtures, in some videos presumably requring as much as 1kg, an american youtuber also showed setting off 1kg or more of the moist substance i even knew one guy who managed to crystallize this stuff using boiling water, creating large single crystals of it when it needs to be in amounts of +10 grammes, dry to self-confine then its not really that big of a deal, its just got this reputation because of the types of people that use it, for what they use it for, how easily made it is and because it ignites by static, others than that its just a primary

[@gregkral4467]

I don't like how easily it sublimates, a few grams over a week, then like half left... hmtd is much more stable. tatp is just, easy to make with only three ingredients, just not worth it.

[@heat_wave5774]

I was taught Hydrogen Peroxide is the only exception of O2 having 1- atomic charge. I honestly believe the violent nature of the product is a result of the oxygen decomposing. To sum up I think the video creator should have explained that this particular -1 charge is to attribute.