How a new Christian right is changing US politics - BBC News

A new battle of faith is being driven by some pastors and politicians in the United States.
Their central message is that the country's conservative Christian way of life is under threat, and American society is moving in the wrong direction.
The BBC’s Barbara Plett Usher explores the impact of this growing movement on US politics.
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[@trappedunderground]

Two people you should never trust: -A religious leader who tells you how to vote -A politician who tells you how to pray

[@honestfriend767]

“There are people who want the President dead” there were people who wanted trump dead were was his voice then. There were people tweeting about it on Twitter why were their accounts not banned.

[@belejSLO]

One type of person you should never trust: - journalist

[@kevildub]

You're goddamn right, Heisenberg.

[@Ibrahim-rx6pm]

And vice versa. Let your conscience be your guide.

[@richfit2458]

I wouldn’t trust the BBC.. far left bbc

[@arkhamfivehundred]

0:53 "We are the Christian Taliban." Just the fact that he even says that proudly and unironically is disturbing on so many levels!

[@magatism]

We are Conquistadors, that would be how i put it.

[@allandill2033]

​@@magatism so... genocidal and trying to establish slavery?

[@magatism]

@@allandill2033 Have you read the history, native populations were not genocided, they were wiped out becoz they didn't have resistence to new diseases and less than 2000 were shipped as slaves out of the population of nearly six million. So, though techinacally correct, you lack the historical perspective. Conquistadors also brought Christianity, these people offered human sacrifice of entire defeated tribes, they also brought, horse, and education and healthcare, for every fortification built, they also established a mission, some still operate. You wouldn't be able to step in Latin America had not the Conquistadors arrived. And they would have probably be attacking nations and offering you as human sacrifice if Conquistadors. The change you see has not come by itself.it's the Christianity effect.

[@Nothingnew321]

Can't wait for the World Cup to be in America

[@allandill2033]

@@magatism there were many more slaves than only 2000. Plus, the spanish used slaves in South America, so they really didnt have to export them. And that's not including the "encomiendas", where the indigenous people would be put under forced labor as tribute and rewards for the conquest. The rape children of these "encomiendas" were called "mullato's" and became second class citizens for the Spanish. And also not to mention the Asiento de Negros, which gave the Spanish monopolistic control over the African slave trade and ensured slave labor would reign in the region well into the 1800's. That is what actually happened. Didn't they also welcome the Spanish until they imprisoned Montezuma? I'll make sure not to hold their leader hostage so I shouldn't have to worry about them sacrificing me. I'll just also ignore all of the other major tribes that would be in the region and didn't have human sacrifice. 🙄 Read the book: Lies My History Teacher Told Me. You will realize how much bullshit the "Spanish saved the South Americans" really is based on first hand writings.

[@1aikane]

Very dangerous people. The Founding Fathers were completely against this type of movement

[@sylviayoung9009]

@BibleBeliever-c6dno one wants religious nuts around

[@victorianmelody46]

​(1) George Washington, the first president of the United States, never declared himself a Christian according to contemporary reports or in any of his voluminous correspondence. (2) John Adams, the country's second president, wrote, “This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!" (3) It was during Adam's administration that the Senate ratified the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, which states in Article XI that "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion." (The Character of John Adams by Peter Shaw, pp. 17 (1976, North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill, NC) (4) Thomas Jefferson, third president and author of the Declaration of Independence, referred to the Revelation of St. John as "the ravings of a maniac" ( Thomas Jefferson, an Intimate History by Fawn M. Brodie, p. 453 (1974, W.W) Norton and Co. Inc. New York, NY). (5) James Madison, fourth president and father of the Constitution, wrote, "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise. . . pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution" (The Madisons by Virginia Moore, P. 43 (1979, McGraw-Hill Co. New York, NY) and so much more history to teach about how our founding fathers felt about Christianity and it's blind followers.

[@ph1sts]

​@BibleBeliever-c6dThey were Deists who believed in God but not necessarily Christ. And they wanted immigrants to be able to practice THEIR beliefs w/o the fear of persecution.

[@ph1sts]

But they DIDN'T overturn Roe v Wade...ya preacher liar. Abortion is still legal in MI (and other states)by vote of the PEOPLE!!

[@ChiGuy1837]

​@BibleBeliever-c6d none of the founding fathers believed that Jesus was the Messiah..

[@kimberlycarter369]

I keep saying it, “If religion wants to play in politics, pay your dues!” Our government needs to remove their tax exemption.

[@dzs1945]

!00%

[@sharonodom6575]

So, you don't enjoy living in a Country built on Christian values? And you don't see the correlation between the decline of Christianity & rising perversions, divisions, crime...

[@marthacolvin6834]

I’m a Christian and a agree with you. These crazy people are destroying the church of Christ as well. If the church wants to get political then pay taxes. We are called to change the world through love…not force!

[@sharonodom6575]

@@kimberlycarter369 That's a slippery slope that'll open the floodgates to legally restrict Christian funded Charities! --Hospitals, shelters, low income women's health clinics, & all. --To combat this homeless crisis, we're gonna need to open mental healthcare facilities & rehab CTRs(you think our Gov's gonna be able to fix their own mess, doubtful). --Twitter Files revealed that Dem officials were instructing Search Engines to remove or bury over 3000 Low Income Women Healthcare Ctrs(privately funded through Christian Charities) for NOT offering abortion services; bcuz they're NOT Healthcare(as they tried to shutdown all 3000 Ctrs). --BUT okay, just bring back the Hyde Amendment to protect OUR freedom of religion & remove Planned Parenthood's tax exemptions(they're a "non-profit Charity" heavily financed by taxpayers which is nonsensical?!) & stop giving them Reimbursements from Medicare, Medicaid, & CHIP🤷

[@sharonodom6575]

@@marthacolvin6834 You don't think Christians in a predominantly Christian Country deserve representation in our Government?

[@fredlandry6170]

When I was a kid we went to church and they talked about God NOT politics. This reminds me of The Handmaids Tale tv series.

[@kirk5152]

Still haven't watched that, is it good?

[@fredlandry6170]

@@kirk5152 it’s worth watching.

[@tateoien871]

Cliche handmaid's tale reference aside, it is genuinely disturbing. I always want to assume the best, but I can't help but look at these insane cults of personality around charismatic conservative and "Christian" figures and not see demonic influence in them. It's like these people worship Trump and their megachurch pastor more than Christ Himself.

[@galindosan_12]

Omg literally my thoughts!

[@prioritytarget7157]

If your church is ignoring politics then you're being led to the slaughter

[@floridafamilyfun1597]

We have a serious lack of critical thinking skills being taught in our schools here. This is what happens when you keep defunding education and stop teaching basic civics.

[@anonymousjohnson976]

Florida: I agree. The great US is going to be a country of morons one day if they don't get a grip on the education and guidance of the children.

[@ph8429]

100%

[@tiredlocke]

Yes. But we've been saying for the past 30 years that schools don't teach civics anymore, etc. But it isn't just the product of those "failed" modern schools that is so clueless. There are so many people who went to school in the 50's 60's, 70's, who think that there will be military tribunals and summary executions of civilians... and they seem to believe that is a _legal_ solution to political differences. The problem isn't the lack of education, the problem is the growing push of extremism and the failure to confront it.

[@geoffwilliams4478]

There's more to it than that but you're not wrong

[@The-Autistic-Rat]

I agree 100%, which is why people group together to huff each other's farts when they see a propaganda piece like this from the BBC.

[@jryanc10]

The gullibility of people in this country is profoundly embarrassing.

[@olddoug8945]

embarrassing?????????????????????????????????????? how about terrifying? they get to vote too!

[@Rockyzach88]

Growing up I read those stories about the antichrist and wondered how people could be so damn brainwashed. And here we are. It's a sight to behold.

[@kevincourtney7312]

@Mickey Valentine 2020 riots were by far worse than Jan 6.

[@exextrovert]

Agreed, it us almost beyond comprehension!

[@pbc7995]

Trust me. This type of gullibility is not unique to the US or this time period, but it is embarrassing to witness.

[@ralphrae5316]

I am not an American nor a Christian but I remember the biblical quote "Render unto Caesar what is Ceasar's..." I think that is quite clear about the separation of church and state. A fundamental part of freedom is freedom to choose - choose what to read, who to vote for, who to love, what to believe, etc. etc. Religions seem to want everyone to follow their choices. That is not a free society.

[@bliss4383]

That quote simply means to “pay your taxes.” That being said….. Watch this….DONALD TRUMP has been “informally” diagnosed as a Malignant Narcissist. The Secret Service, FBI and CIA all know it. Having dated a Malignant Narcissist, with Psychopathy, I’ve known since 2016 Trump was one as well. UNFIT (2020): DONALD TRUMP DOCUMENTARY kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5StYWWInJqkl6c CONTRIBUTORS (in order of appearance): Malcolm Nance, Author “The Plot to Betray America" George Conway, Attorney, Co-Founder “The Lincoln Project” John Gartner, Psychologist, Author “The Hypomanic Edge" Lance Dodes, Psychiatrist, Author “Breaking Addiction" Justin Frank, Psychiatrist, Author “Trump on the Couch" Ramani Durvasula, Psychologist, Author Anthony Scaramucci, Former White House Communications Director, Author, “Trump: The Blue Collar President” Suzanne Lachmann, Psychologist Rick Reilly, Author, “Commander in Cheat” Bill Kristol, Conservative Commentator, Editor, “The Bulwark” Richard Painter, Ethics Attny George W. Bush Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Historian, Author “Strongmen” Cheryl Koos, Historian, Professor of Interwar European History Sheldon Solomon, Research Psychologist, Co-Author, “Worm at the Core" I understand you’re not an American, but to those who are, this NEVER TRUMPER REPUBLICAN says VOTE BLUE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BALLOT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR FREEDOMS AND DEMOCRACY!

[@richlemmon8296]

If you knew what you were saying, it was talking about Paying taxes read your Bible I'm sure you don't have one because you say you're not a Christian one day you'll end up in front of God and you will be accountable for your actions. We all will be even me. I'm not perfect I know I know Jesus loves you

[@laurieromano4311]

Agree wholeheartedly.

[@KrisCorby-iv8dg]

The problem ended up being, that as free Americans, you just weren't voting Republican enough, therefore the rules needed to change, so those who sought financial gain, were less "encumbered" by legislation! That's why trump named such ridiculous people, (those who would, w/o question, do his bidding!) to head various courts, & attorney general positions! Its a frighten dystopian future he desires! Everyone should be able to see its!..🤷🏻‍♂️

[@richardlangcay9903]

The FREEDOM TO CHOSE IS SACRED THAT EVEN THE ALMIGHTY DID NOT TAKE AWAY FROM Satan and his fallen Angels.

[@RevAustin68]

As a pastor, this is horrifying and the furthest thing from being Christian.

[@georgekim933]

Yes, this is the work of the beast, pastor. They are trying very hard to take control of government and its weapons of mass destruction, and intend to erroneously bring Christ’s resurrection by starting WWIII in the Middle East.

[@Diablo_Himself]

Ah, yes, Christians... The people who tried to force others to adopt THEIR religion or die... The people who started MANY wars over religion in the past... The people who also turned on their ORIGINAL religious leaders and declared them heretics and blasphemers... If that is being Christian, I want NO PART of it!

[@lw6084]

They are exactly what xtianity is in the US. Why do you Notallmen, Notallwytppl, Notallxtians instead of speaking up against your fellow believers spewing hate? You “good ones” are silent as the grave. You should also learn about the No True Scotsman fallacy.

[@Josh-f6v]

Amen

[@DevinSheaProductions]

Yes it is. They are Chumps favorite people because they are easiest to manipulate.

[@KaptainKKD]

If you're a Christian, you would know the characteristics of Jesus. Jesus would never engage in "casual locker room talk" that invites power over another person, making statements like "grab her by the [cat]". Jesus would never go up to hurricane victims and playfully toss toilet paper at them and ask meaningless questions like "Is that your boat?". Jesus would never brag about his "crowd size" as if that's what mattered. Jesus would never incite mob violence to give himself power. The list goes on and on. Why conservative Republicans chose such a man as their champion for "Christian" values, I have been left guessing for the last 6 years.

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

TDS

[@samuela-aegisdottir]

When you read the New Testament, you see that Jesus was quite progresive. He spoke to women, spoke to children. He told women that their spiritual life is more important that their work in households. He told people not to blindly follow rule but follow their hearts instead. He helped people even if it offended those with traditional values. He insisted that following tradition is not as important as to love. I bet that in modern world, he would be a feminist and an LGBTIQ+ ally.

[@samuela-aegisdottir]

When you read the Bible, the New and the Old Testament, there is so much about helping others, helping poor people, taking care of sick and feeding the hungry, giving shelter to refugees. I can't understand what happened to the Christian right in the USA, that they are so anti-solidarity, anti-universal-healthcare, anti-refugee. It's the richest country in the world and still, there are milions in poverty.

[@Gerryjournal]

Think not that I come in peace for I come with a sword. Hmmmm

[@moonshoes11]

Asserted characteristics. Not demonstrable characteristics.

[@zach367]

Any church that takes political stances and literally talks about voting for specific political candidates should no longer have any sort of tax exemption

[@skwills1629]

in Other words yiu want to Punish them. Too bad. Churches are tax Exempt whether Political or not. Also, not all Churches are 501 C so o, that silly They break the law Argument is Not Really true. Nor does The Constitution bar Church's from Speaking on Political matters.

[@maytreemedia]

AMEN!

[@ben5073]

@@skwills1629 Fine. Then they should pay taxes. Like everybody else.

[@skwills1629]

@@ben5073 - The Thing us, Churches are not People and You don't want Atheist Groups to Pay taxes, so You aren't Really treating them "Like everyone Else", You're Just Lying about them being given a Special Exception No one else has.

[@lordblazer]

@@ben5073 that won't ever happen you gotta understand christian nationalism. they want the whole cake my dude. they want it all. they want the power to make sure it all only protects them and persecutes everyone else that's an other to them.

[@cyruskeeka4330]

For I say unto you... "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves" Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 7:15-20)

[@judyshrestha7280]

and terrible bigots also False prophets? Trump is definitely one.

[@teresawicks-kq3bq]

Right😊

[@judyshrestha7280]

I immediately think of Trump

[@mohussain1615]

Religion should be a personal journey, about self reflection, about doing good, being empathetic and compassionate towards others. Being a decent human being. When people mix religion with politics it becomes something else completely.

[@shawnkim8542]

I am a slave of the slaves of True Lord Jesus Christ. I give all my glory to True God and True Jesus Christ. Please remember this. Amen. Thanks

[@christopherhillman3551]

Define decent human being. The Confederacy, the Nazi's, many thought they were decent people. *We live by the 10 Commandments* that Moses brought down from Mt Sinai 3,000 years ago. *Christian Men* wrote the U.S. Constitution. *Christian Abolitionists* established the Republican Party in 1854 to end Slavery. In 1861 Lincoln became the 1st Republican President and ended Slavery.

[@susettehorspool2646]

@@shawnkim8542 - Congratulations, Shawn. I choose not to be a slave to anyone, but my choice is for me, not for you. You can be whoever you want to be. And that is the essence of freedom.

[@bithiahamariah9139]

The problem is climate change, Wokism, transgenderism, and the LGBTQI etc movements are just as much a religion as ours is. They are ideologies that formulate our world view. And if they are allowed free voice in the public arena, why not others? Cancelling free speech for some and not others is anti-American.

[@TheRealMikeMichaels]

@Mo Hussain I assume you come from some Islamic background assuming from your name. No, that's not what Allah has commanded. When Allah revealed the Qur'an, He revealed it to be a way of life, not something to be restricted within mosques and houses, that is against Allah's commands. Did Allah's Messenger, peace be upon him restrict Islam to mosques and houses? He did not. Secularism only came to be in the Muslim world, when colonialists invaded it! How ironic.

[@rachelolson5488]

If church wants to play politics, TAX'EM like the rest of us!

[@tecunumantonatiu4484]

👍 100%

[@jturtle5318]

Absolutely.

[@shirleyandrews1152]

Yes yes yes‼️

[@theMichaelMelo]

no, taxation is theft. stop feeding the crooked politicians lmfao

[@bg7059]

👎

[@Chloholio]

the fact his church is called “patriot church” tells you everything you need to know

[@EdugeBDroN]

What sane person can associate Trump with anything remotely godly?

[@wantedsavage7776]

His amazing phaziq and his naturl golden hair.

[@91dodgespiritrt]

SANE PEOPLE love their country. INSANE MISFIT nutjobs like you DO NOT.

[@joandarc441]

@@91dodgespiritrt you ain't really Christian Yankee a fake one go back to your country Evangelist.

[@jcampbell2481]

Convict Trump actually is anti-godly since he has broken every one of the ten commandments.

[@dannyroberts9807]

A whole load of delusional people animated by fear

[@jbbbygrace8301]

"Those who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire-

[@dmkuchins4046]

Too true. Has happened repeatedly around the globe all through history. As an elderly, disabled, impoverished transman here in the USA, I am very aware that it is increasingly more likely that I will become a target of a fatal hate crime now than during my pre Stonewall upbringing during the post world war 2 wave of anti LGBT+ pogroms.

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

Makes me think about the 'Religion is the opium of the masses ' dictum by Marx '. These people act as if they'r insane , or drugged .

[@tuckerchisholm1005]

Trangenderism

[@manueldavidson1398]

Definitely a triple right on!!!!

[@IdislikeTechnology]

I just wish they'd see how it's all borne from their instinctual unease towards change 😮‍💨

[@frerx]

I am European and clearly a social democrat. At the same time, however, I am strongly influenced by Christian communities (I even lived and worked with anglican Franciscan brothers for two years in the UK). It is so strange for me to see that this group of fanatics have completely lost sight of the fact that their country was founded on the principle of freedom - and now want to undermine religious freedom so fundamentally. Not to mention the fact that true Christians would respect and honour every other religion and approach it with open arms. Reminder: love your neighbour as yourself. But then to boast of being "Christian nationalists" and to radically ban other religions from social coexistence, to want to link government and religion so closely together is nothing other than fascism for me.

[@mammawlee]

You are 💯 % correct. Most Christians are NOT Nationalists.

[@michaelabbott8674]

Agreed. As a religious person myself, I’m disgusted and saddened because it goes against American Tradition. It almost feels this movement is taking the name of God in vain.

[@joestone776]

I live in America for 60 years now and there has always been a strong Christian presence without it being in our public schools. We do not want to be like the middle Eastern countries, just look at them to see what happens when you mix politics and religion. We have the freedom to worship how we want, We also have the right to have freedom from religion.

[@dmkuchins4046]

@@michaelabbott8674 It is blasphemy to misrepresent a God of love as a sock puppet to support one's own fear and ignorance based revanchism. There is no 'almost feels' about it!!!!!!

[@gingercake0907]

White Christian Nationalism is an ethnocentric ideology that uses symbols of Christianity to gain political power and social status and control. It is not Christianity. White Christian Nationalism is the underpinning of racial hate groups like KKK. It is the underpinning of the MAGA movement and Donald Trump.

[@katc9061]

A Christian voting for Trump is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders.

[@nilsanieves3457]

Great!!!

[@cherylwin9364]

🤣😂🤣

[@tiahenry4743]

Trump converted to Judaism.

[@em38817]

What’s scary is that they’re not questioning what they’re being taught. A good student questions and challenges teachings. A better teacher allows this. How else can we become better? Think for yourself.

[@Wartenss]

Neither do the irreligious people who critique these christian nationalists. Why is secularism good, why are these religious people wrong in wanting to enforce this. Why does a theocracy entail oppression of other faiths even though that is not really historically accurate? Why do I assume moral claims, like murder being morally wrong objectively, or at least act like its objective? They dont, thats why im making the effort to actually question their beliefs, rather us being questioned solely.

[@pipipupu5104]

​@@Wartenss because you White piece of sheet America doesn't belong to you it once belonged to thw natives untill you guys hijacked it huh

[@HappyHermitt]

You're being taught everything is racist, yet you don't question that. Bah bah bah

[@esotericist9]

​@@HappyHermitt Straw man argument. No one is being taught that "everything is racist." The systemic racial discrimination embedded in the foundations of U.S. society is a fact.

[@DoopytheRabbit]

@@NSOcarth 417 genders, men get pregnant, give birth, and breastfeed/ get periods. Zzzz

[@dulynoted2427]

If you know what it means to willingly choose any religion, then you know everyone has the Freedom not to choose your religion or any other. You can't impose it.

[@rabidgoon]

the problem with these people is they think that god will be mad at them unless they impose a christian theocracy upon american society. so they literally think anything short of christian theocracy is an 'attack' on them because god will be mad and punish them for it.

[@nonyabizness.original]

exactly this. democracy and government forced religion cannot co-habitate. that's why they have no issue with donald and his fascist crowd.

[@gymrat5014]

@@user-wb4ws2xs9p Yet, you vote against welfare for babies and single mothers ?

[@danielwhyatt3278]

Here here

[@sjh1898]

But why r u imposing values like LGBT on others? I think it is a double standard

[@randubis7880]

It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.

[@skiphoffenflaven8004]

Stop repeating this phrase all over the internet. Everyone with nothing to say types this into a comment on YT.

[@aarone9000]

Even harder to get them to admit it!

[@dianaanderson2359]

The left is not anti- Christian as a group, you cannot say millions of people are all thinking the same thing. We are individuals. Some are religious and some are not. You are welcome to worship whichever religion you choose, but in a free country you cannot force others to think like you.

[@edmunddantes935]

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. -Well known saying

[@lingra1438]

YES .SO TRUE

[@jaedaens]

Those who study history are doomed to watch other people repeat it.

[@John2verse5]

Indeed, just look at Pompeii.

[@Corinthians-kjv]

Research what German govt nazi regime did to the "church" and yep just about all them pastors and congregations were: silent! (edit: sorry for capital n I didn't mean to. I refuse to capitalize evil things.)

[@Corinthians-kjv]

So them being silent meant they agreed with it!

[@billyk8397]

“I am 100% for freedom. That’s why I want my government to impose my religious beliefs on everybody and make it illegal not to follow my beliefs 💜”

[@christopherhillman3551]

Separation of Church and State is to protect faith based people from the Government interfering with their beliefs.

[@tarilh3627]

And to protect the people from being legally tied to a forced religion

[@braddo7270]

​​@@christopherhillman3551 no it isn't... firstly, secularism was started in the UK by George Jacob Holyoake and it was to protect the people from the churches. In america the secular movement started in the 1920s and it was given wheels by "the association for the advancements of atheism" and the humanist movement. It has always been to protect the people from religious extremists rising in government and to stop those who do rise from being able to change very much.

[@braddo7270]

​@@tarilh3627 yeah that's more like it. First guy has zero clue 👌

[@Rfpenab]

@@RepeatBennett it's illegal for a government agency or program to promote any type of theological ideology. The point is not to promote atheism it's to promote religious freedom. Secularism is a good thing.

[@mlshull]

"We establish no religion in this country. We command no worship. We mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are and must remain separate." Those words were spoken by Ronald Reagan in 1982.

[@js-wq6zy]

Same "guy" also asked if there is any hurt caused by mandating school prayer....

[@MarieBelmont-oy2hq]

Soon it's going to be one world under a anti Christ monster and than they'll see why they should of liked it like it is now a nation under God 😊❤

[@WeWokeTheGiants]

Why do you hate religion so much? Is it the belief in God or the rules and laws that are attached to religion. I am guessing it's the rules and laws you hate. What were you secularists trying to prove with separation of church and state?

[@jeansherwood2428]

@@WeWokeTheGiants Are you for real? Or a bot?

[@WeWokeTheGiants]

@@jeansherwood2428 Answer my question? What are secularists trying to prove by hating on religion?! Because you aren't doing better than religion and that's for God damn sure.

[@joniwarren6520]

Mandating any theological signage in public schools violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution.

[@ConradBarrett60]

If religions want to meddle in politics, then they need to start being taxed.

[@ImperfectionistGaming]

America was founded for the exact reason of freedom of religion and beliefs. Making America a Christian nation in politics is directly contradicting the fundamentals of why people say this is the land of the free. As a new yorker you can have 50 different nationalities living on one single block and THAT is the essence of what america is meant to be. A melting pot of nationalities and ideologies and the freedom to not be persecuted for your (reasonable) beliefs.

[@thegodofimagination]

Incredibly true paragraph

[@christopherhillman3551]

No one is forcing anyone. However Judeo-Christian Civilization and its values made America possible. *We live by the 10 Commandments* that Moses brought down from Mt Sinai 3,000 years ago. *Christian Men* wrote the U.S. Constitution. *Christian Abolitionists* established the Republican Party in 1854 to end Slavery. In 1861 Lincoln became the 1st Republican President and ended Slavery.

[@finnlewis2528]

the nations that was founded on your so touted "freedom from religion" was the Jacobin French Republic, and look how well that turned out hint it ended in the geocide of Christians and the mas destruction of church property

[@andrerogers9961]

@@christopherhillman3551 Christian men slaughtered the natives and stole their land then started buying and selling kidnapped human beings to get rich. Why do people keep ignoring that?

[@cc32834]

Trump

[@teresaharrison6604]

Jesus said, "Give Cesar what belongs to Cesar and give to God what belongs to God," which clearly shows a separation of church and state.

[@Demonoicgamer666]

Not a Christian but thank you I’d shake your hand if I saw you.

[@knockout9446]

Sssshhhh, Trumpers’ brains melt when presented with basic facts.

[@jakubjohnson6741]

To be fair prior to Isreal being occupied by the Romans (and others), there was not really a separation between church and state, or at least there was not really supposed to be. So there is a basis for the belief.

[@jakubjohnson6741]

And that verse is more so talking about how Jesus wants your faith instead of monetary things. So its not really about separation of church and state.

[@teresaharrison6604]

@jakubjohnson6741 man has always differ from the Bible or its interpretation

[@ralphclark460]

“They will know we are Christians by our love.” I’m not seeing the love.

[@KrisCorby-iv8dg]

Not @ all!...💁🏻‍♂️

[@silverstreettalks343]

What upsets me as a Baptist (Australian) is that many of these people identify as Baptists, yet it was Baptists who spoke most strongly against theocracy in the 17th and 18th centuries, and influenced later though less radical thinkers like Locke. Even in the early 1960s, when I became a Baptist, any links between Church and State, even if it was beneficial to both parties, was treated with suspicion. It is hard to see how things could go so seriously wrong so quickly.

[@dixie0625]

Christian nationalism is a rapidly growing cancerous abomination that threatens both Church and state.

[@michaeljaquish9708]

The problem with Christianity is that just like Islam, it possesses the seeds for radicalism. Human beings seem to be willing to embrace radicalism more often than not and that is why Christianity in general is so dangerous. I don't care which denomination you chose to embrace, you should be mindful of the risks,

[@DOmni-gb2lj]

Shut the front door, sir. Jesus showed the different personalities when he chose his disciples….all different….and his crazy cousin John the Baptist. The one thing they had in common, they worshipped and followed Jesus. And that is what matters. What would Jesus do? On abortion, sex changes, pedophilia, prostitution, legalizing drugs, homelessness. Black or white. regardless of apologetics. WWJD?

[@ichthus2162]

@@michaeljaquish9708 A community can never be fair with Islam as its ruling religion. Do not even think of comparing two opposites.... Everything has its goods and bads, some like Islam does have way more bads cus of the commitment u have to give and the rules u have to enslave urself to.... just Stop in all seriousness comparing Christianity and Islam. Religion is bad when it can't evolve with the community, Christianity has adapted with the community.. but we can't say the same to Islam.. Islam has not and probably will not for a long time adjust to the 21th century (very VERY old rules are still looked highly upon) and as a friendly reminder their calendar is 600Years behind.......

[@vonsuthoff]

Sounds like we are the same age. I too, grew up Baptist in the 1960's in Mississippi, USA. So, what do think caused this suspicion you spoke of my friend? I don't recall this happening in my area, but I will say slowly but surly, religion in general is being viewed with a certain skepticism. Our first pastor was one of the kindest, most knowledgeable and compassionate men I will ever meet. He was well loved, even today many years after his passing. And his replacement was a man who felt we needed to be scared into loving Jesus! He was quite a fear preacher and slowly but surly saw his congregation decline. What's that saying... "Hate only begets more hate, and love is the only thing that can cure hate." I paraphrase, but, I find this to be true.

[@joshuamoore4537]

As an American that is also an Atheist; I think that religion should remain separate from the government. Mixing religion & government together has had a lot of terrible consequences in world history.

[@dexteryousef2380]

people beliefs should be challenged & questioned. they must be told it clearly. freedom is to accept it or not in a personal level.

[@claudeabraham2347]

How about secular humanism? That is a religion, ruled as such twice by the Supreme Court. Secular humanism has its own definitions of right & wrong, sin & virtue, wisdom & ignorance, truth & falsehood. Secular humanism defines its own "sins". And adherents of SH force their views into law.

[@ridgemondhigh4891]

Contrary to what many Americans believe, the Founding Fathers were mostly _de facto_ Deists, with some Unitarians and Quakers.

[@DocRigel]

@@claudeabraham2347 that isn't a religion, it puts responsibility back on to the people and makes each person responsible for the good of others. Secular is without religion or God, there is no belief not backed by evidence.

[@DocRigel]

I agree, government and schools have no place for any religion. Any one religious belief goes against science and goes against other religions. To have it in government would alienate one group or another, it's best left in churches, homes, and individual beliefs. That is what is legal and right for everyone. But we know that it influences peoples decisions and people think they are doing good or gods will to elevate something so important to them. It's a cycle that won't end.

[@joseaugustopinto4901]

This is absolute madness. I fear the worst for the future of the US as a nation.

[@marcodesalud7034]

what is the alternative? adopting your preferences instead?

[@Jesusismykin]

Instead of playing dumb video games and watching dumb sports study the Bible you will learn something.

[@marcodesalud7034]

@@Jesusismykin Thank you for your random comment, I'm sure if enough people read it, it may be applicable to someone.

[@marcodesalud7034]

@@LovelyJesus07 it depends upon the measure. if their goal is to murder babies and groom your kids, then they would probably disagree.

[@MumblzDelusional]

As an American, i sadly agree w u! This country is in a fast downward spiral!

[@BeepBoos]

Thank you for covering this crazy. I hope people are paying attention. 🙏🏼💞

[@Jericho50]

Religion doesn't always make people crazy but when it does, as in the case of these people, they go all the way.

[@Jsarson1976]

Radical and not needed in this world.

[@FactStorm]

It always makes people delusional

[@peter4210]

Christianity trough the Catholic Church was founded on violence just like Islam. The first crusaded were launched by a man now called Saint Irenaeus in the between the year 150-200 against other Christians who did not fall under the Catholic church. Part of the dead sea scrolls are remains of those Christians that were killed which historians group as Gnostic Christians because nothing survives of any organization if they had one since they did not believe that a orthodoxy was needed to be Christians, they were peaceful and believed in meditating to escape the hell of our physical bodies. Basically the first major thing the catholic church which is the ancestor of all modern christian goups in the west did was to kill off the peaceful Christians.

[@jaydr6988]

I'm Christian and I check myself all the time cuz you can fall and religiosity easy. I was raised by Christians and I never really believed in Jesus until I got away from them. Just crazy and fundamental. And Christian nationalism is mostly about how they really want for everything to be white again

[@VidWatcher1X]

Zealots be zealots.

[@brainstem2023]

I'm a devout Christian and I'm very troubled by what people are doing in the name of Christianity. Are we headed back to the dark ages?

[@smartways7917]

you are sleeping. Darkness are rising , and you just thing about your self. Such a garbage

[@dylanblack3279]

We are in states controlled by Southern Baptists.

[@JbombTheGreat]

Unfortunately, as long as religious beliefs based on ancient mythological stories remain in society, we will not be able to leave the dark ages.

[@brainstem2023]

@@JbombTheGreat Just because they're mythology to you does not mean they're not historical fact. Consider how many things known to be scientific certainties have been revealed to be wrong. Are those myths also? Truth always prevails unless it's suppressed.

[@JbombTheGreat]

@@brainstem2023 Many stories in the bible lack any historical evidence. The Jews enslaved in Egypt, Noah's Ark, a worldwide flood, the resurrection of a savior, etc, lack evidence. Not only that, but research has revealed that many of the stories in the bible are recycled tales from even older civilizations. One notable example is from the Epic of Gilgamesh, which pre-dates the writing of the bible by nearly 1000 years. It contains a story extremally similar to Noah's Ark and the great flood, only with small details differing here and there from the biblical version. The idea a savior in the form of god's son has also been used in numerous ancient cultures long before Christianity or any other modern segmented religion adapted the tale. It's important to realize that these stories have nothing to do with science. A lack of science is actually what allowed these stories to spread and flourish thousands of years ago.

[@slappymcghee9515]

There is a huge difference between evangelical Christianity and the message of Jesus. I used to be part of this group, but saw it devolve over the last few decades. I wish they could see it too. I could see morality police in the US if they would get total control.

[@jessigirlrae1688]

This. I grew up more evangelical and thought it was based on kindness, but now? Even I've stepped away from the church. It's become full of hateful judgemental people

[@kenmorales9855]

The problem is that the most public faces of the Evangelical church are a bunch of charlatans masquerading as true Christians. They care more about manipulating people for their own personal gain than for actually teaching people to be True Christians. They are literally the false prophets the Bible speaks about, but their followers refuse to see it because "hOw CaN aNyOnE fRoM tHe ChUrCh Be CoRrUpT?"

[@markadams5823]

You only need a little bit of common Sense to realize these people are not Christians at all

[@slappymcghee9515]

@@kenmorales9855 How correct. If you are able to grasp the real message, you'd realize that you don't need teachers at all. Hate to think they know it, but you never know.

[@buahburke9912]

Jessi, I pray you keep searching til you find the right church; There are still solid, SMALL, Bible based churches that churches that care about their attendees. Calvary Chapel Open Door is one of them.

[@antigonemerlin]

The interviewer is really good at asking questions that allow the respondent to say what's actually on their minds. This is quality journalism.

[@SiliconBong]

Good observation.

[@outofthebox9699]

6:14 Its written in Arabic "In Allah we trust"

[@avi2125]

Agree - but she could shake her head a little less 😀

[@perry6660]

@@outofthebox9699 Allah means God, Arab Christians use the word Allah too.

[@oscarlightning3140]

@@avi2125 I think it’s a technique used to make the person interviewed feel more comfortable and because of that potentially get more interesting conversations.

[@OutriderMedia]

"the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." George Washington Treaty of Tripoli 1796 signed and ratified by John Adams 1797

[@darnellpistachio2991]

Relevance, your honour? Oh there is none? Perhaps some context? No, you won't give any of that either? Just the ol' "strip this sentence out because i hate Jesus and this'll show 'im."

[@Hoe-numan5]

Then what is God bless America which God is it

[@OutriderMedia]

@@Hoe-numan5 the story behind “God Bless America.” This simple one-verse song became an overnight hit, and a hopeful song as war threatened. “It’s not a patriotic song,” composer Irving Berlin said in a 1940 interview, “but an expression of gratitude for what this country has done for its citizens, of what home really means.” Today, many Americans consider “God Bless America” an unofficial national anthem of the United States. First performed on Armistice Day (now Veterans Day) in 1938 nowhere near 1776.

[@OutriderMedia]

@@darnellpistachio2991 Feel free to look up the text yourself, it is all there in black and white as quoted

[@thecrow9820]

Then explain why the US's motto is " In God we trust."?

[@cartoonraccoon2078]

This isn't new. I've been dealing with this hillbilly BS my whole life.

[@phillippalmejar9548]

Wow. This is scary. These people would stand over your burning body and thank God. That's next level evil.

[@roryluukas2703]

They harp on about the second amendment yet freely ignore the 1st: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[@francisbacon3949]

So the school board can then, right? They are not Congress, correct?

[@roryluukas2703]

@@francisbacon3949 this is in reference to attempting to force religious beliefs on others through the state, the whole "christian nationalist" thing. There is a reason Church and State should be separate.

[@thomasellingwoodfortinanameric]

ALL the amendments are necessary I should remind you, and from a historical standpoint, the 2nd is vital despite what the media harps on. But most Americans do not have a clue as to the importance of any of them, or our foundations in the English Common Law which our judicial system is founded upon. “Must men alone be debarred the common privilege of opposing force with force, which nature allows so freely to all other creatures for their preservation from injury? I answer: self defense is a part of the law of nature, nor can it be denied the community, even against the king himself...” ~JOHN LOCKE (“Two Treatises of Government”, 1689) “THE RIGHT TO ARMS: The fifth and last auxiliary right of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defence, suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law.... And, lastly, to vindicate these rights, when actually violated or attacked, the subjects of England are entitled, in the first place, to the regular administration and free course of justice in the courts of law; next, to the right of petitioning the king and parliament for redress of grievances; and, lastly, to the right of having and using arms for self-preservation and defense.” ~Commentaries on the Laws of England, Sir William Blackstone, 1765 "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." ~George Washington [GW also said that only "peaceable" citizens should be allowed arms, interesting thought...] With all of that in mind, let's apply it to the liberty of conscience and church and state. One of the threats that aroused our people to revolt against Royal usurpation of "the rights of Englishmen" was the effort to establish Bishops over America, an attempt to bring the colonists more under the authority of the state religion. [another argument against the Christian right] and most of us back then did not care for organized religion or the King's church. Most Americans were free thinkers at the time, not dedicated fundamentalist Christians, as the theocracy crowd would have us believe. As a last resort they called out the militia to resist and took up arms against the Crown. A final thought, "We have solved...the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving everyone to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries." ~Thomas Jefferson to Virginia Baptists, 1808

[@davidk2885]

Promoting Christianity and voluntary prayer in school =\= Congress establishing a state religion.

[@roryluukas2703]

@@davidk2885 did you watch the entire documentary or just the bit about schools?

[@alskik23]

Coming from The North of Ireland where politics and religion go hand in hand, let me tell you in no uncertain terms ..... they should NEVER mix

[@ShatabdaRoy115]

aye aye sir

[@medexamtoolscom]

And yet communism, extremist feminism and social justice are religions too, and that's one of the reasons why the democrats are even worse.

[@jeannecrowley9529]

I've seen it first hand in Omagh. There's no place for religion in schools or politics in religion.

[@mike60521x]

was'nt religion always a red herring in northern ireland - if you are catholic, you were probably irish by birth - if you were protestant, you were british by birth and recognized the monarchy as both your govt leader as well as leader of your church is'nt it interesting that only 100 years after ireland became independent, they are now being controlled by the eu ? ireland may call itself a member state - but you are NOT a country if someone else controls your borders/money/immigration

[@mike60521x]

@@cstuartdc I think you misunderstood my reply. My family fought for the Irish Republic in 1918 for its independence - for hundreds of years, Ireland was under british occupation ( or colonialization, if you prefer) My ancestors are probably turning in their grave thinking that the independence that was so hard to gain was so easily handed over to a cabal of bureacrats that now control their border. I never once advocated for a king. What is so wrong about wanting a free homeland unfettered by foreign dominion ? Do you want Britain to again control Ireland, India, Jamaica, Hong Kong, Kenya, Sudan, Lesotho, Botswana, Northern Somalia, Egypt, Eastern Ghana, Gambia, Niger, etc ? Remember that the british controlled the slave trade many years ago - you cant say they did it for the benefit of the natives. You seem to argue that an independent country is a bad thing. Even England has its fill of the EU and left the 'loose confederacy' that you love. Funny choice of words you had there - In the US, the word confederacy denotes slavery. It is funny you call that a Trumpian vision - but Merkel controlled the EU with an iron fist for many years.

[@shivarg120]

As someone who lives in a theocracy,This is a huge mistake.they should stop this immediately. Believing in a religious state is the worst mistake a nation can make.

[@pennybarker1596]

Are you from Iran? If yes then we know what is awaiting Americans. They will find out on their own that once religion takes over separating it from state will be almost impossible.

[@shivarg120]

@@pennybarker1596 i am, they are making a huge mistake

[@cahkylahky]

Thank you for the warning. Someone else here posted this: “Those who would renegotiate the boundaries between church and state must therefore answer a difficult question: why would we trade a system that has served us so well for one that has served others so poorly?” ― Sandra Day O'Connor (Conservative former US Supreme Court Justice)

[@ReineDeLaSeine14]

@@shivarg120I agree. Thank you for your compassion. I hope the people of Iran can live freely again.

[@MrSailormoonlover]

Merci aziam, Iran will be free soon once these religious old men die. May we celebrate on the streets together

[@jakeatkins4578]

As an American from the southern united states I apologize to the rest of the world reading these comments. Not all southerners here are like this but the majority in the south unfortunately are.

[@DLFfitness1]

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” ― Carl Sagan

[@halcyonneumann9815]

Bamboozle is such a top notch word!

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Sagan's "Humility" couldn't be more relevant, and neither could TDHW. We are now literally living in the situation that he predicted. Science, logic, unity, and Reflection have all succumbed to egos, narcissism, selfishness, greed, and polarization of hatred. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

[@mariettatrapani291]

JESUS CHRIST NEVER BAMBOOZLED ANY ONE GOD GAVE US A FREE WILL TO MAKE THE CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR THIS SINFUL WORLD. AMEN.

[@baggyandbarp]

@@mariettatrapani291 you seem a bit bamboozled

[@RafWalton]

@@baggyandbarp lol

[@ScroogeMcWhat]

“That’s not my responsibility” I have no words for that statement. It’s just wrong.

[@Mrcheddacheese]

Yeah if you are gonna be preaching to thousands what you and them think is the truth it is 100% your responsibility what you decide to tell them.

[@leanne6966]

I find it odd how this headline calls it “the new Christian right.” I’m a 34-year-old American and I grew up DEEP in this crap in the 90s (in “liberal Oregon”), just like my parents did in the 60s, and so on. This stuff is hardly new! I ended up leaning and moving to Australia when I was 20, and then settled in Ireland when I was 23 and have been here since… and I find a lot of people abroad know little about how prevalent the fundamentalist, anti-science crowd is all over the US.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Same. I grew up in the Gorge during those whacky confrontational times when our sociopath Evangelicals threw out every pretense of Constitutional values and loyalty because the Rajneeshees came to town in the 80's.

[@fernie6299]

yea. i think the bbc is calling it new because it's new to them. but that's just me guessing.

[@suigeneris6397]

It's not new, but it's a hell of a lot louder and more reactionary now. As we saw on Jan 6th, these people are now out and proud and coming out of the woodwork in hordes.

[@roddyboethius1722]

Not only did you free yourself from a provincial cult of ignorance, you became cosmopolitan, which is the antithesis of Christian Yokelism.

[@droogsurgeon1440]

I remember them trying to ban video games. The satanic panic was a whacky time in America. This is all the same crap, its never left. These people have always been there. Trump just gave them permission to speak up on how they REALLY feel. Now it’s just a circus.

[@rruss81]

In Pennsylvania we made sure Mastriano didn't become Governor .

[@Saphirevirgo33]

Is. He A natzie?

[@teachbeyonddeutschland9648]

As a European and what is called an evangelical pastor, lecturer, mission director and theologian, I follow what is going on in your country with a combination of both interest and creepiness. You know, there is a German saying which we Germans do well to keep reminding ourselves. It goes "Wehret den Anfängen," and it means "fight back when you see fundamentally wrong things brewing." Brothers and sisters, I think it's high time for that.

[@buahburke9912]

Teach Beyond, if Christians sit by idly as parents lose custody of their minor kids for not affirming gender transition surgery, we shouldn't complain when forced into house arrest, like what's happening NOW in several other COMMIE countries!!

[@janelliot5643]

We'll take care of our crazy fundamentalists, and you take care of your voracious p I m p s. The brothel industry has made your nation the slave trading hub of Europe, through which the destitute of Eastern Europe are trafficked. Making an industry on the backs of impoverished women, 90% of whom were molested in childhood, is the quintessense of fundamentally wrong. It is - far beyond creepy - absolutely heartbreaking to watch what's happening to Germany. Who's going to teach IN Deutschland? Don't turn your back on German women, and all vulnerable European women: The oldest oppression is taking over, in Germany.

[@John2verse5]

The language our great GOD best hears is silent love. When many hearts silently scream for righteous justice & get ignored, it truly feels like "volcanic activity" brewing inside. When the good shepherd calls, his flock recognize his voice. Some hear whispers, other's hear defining thunder. My Cross My GOD GOD promised Moses he would free his people from bondage and he delivered. There's no reason not to believe our Cross won't deliver on YESHUA CRISTO'S promise.

[@MatthewSchellenberg]

Funny you should say that when Germany is slipping into totalitarianism. They are anti free speech, anti family, and anti Christianity. When are you going to stand up against that?

[@janelliot5643]

@@John2verse5 you have used a lot of words and yet your comment is incomprehensible. What are you trying to say?

[@MarkDavid-gi9vw]

“Whenever governments adopt a moral tone - as opposed to an ethical one - you know something is wrong.” ― John Ralston Saul

[@geraldsinger7982]

When government adopts an immoral tone - would that also be an indication that something is wrong?

[@phiksit]

I guess we need the morality police here, because that's working out so well in Iran. The Extreme Court thinks they can legislate morality from the bench... how's that working out?

[@petra2578]

What exactly does this mean? Looking it up I see it says morals are guiding principles and ethics are specific rules, surely all forms of government, politics and ideology encompass both? What makes moral tones worse? Can you explain please thanks

[@geraldsinger7982]

@@phiksit We do have a morality police. Its called cancel culture.

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

And vise versa!

[@joesexton5668]

In most developed countries hearing voices in your head is considered a disqualifier for public office

[@costealucia5357]

So is believing you are something that you are not, also in the head, in the mind, and that qualifies as mental illness. I don't see the mental disseased out of public functions.

[@am24526]

As a Christian, idk how you can come up with a term like "Christian Taliban". That makes 0 sense.

[@dannyroberts9807]

It makes all the sense. Just like the Taliban who want to enforce their version of Islamism onto a population, Christian nationalists want to force their American Christianity (not to be confused with pure Christianity) onto our culture.

[@am24526]

@dannyroberts9807 There is no such thing as 'pure' Christianity. Christianity that is not pure is not Christianity. There are no grey areas. What you are calling 'American' Christianity is not Christianity if they are gonna compare themselves to the Taliban. We need to stop encouraging these people but call them out instead and challenge their beliefs. This is why people mock Christianity because they have their worldly views then slap the name of Christianity on it. There is no such thing as a Christian Taliban. Any person who calls themselves a Christian then compares themselves with the Taliban is not a Christian.

[@cody42693]

​@am24526 So you have to understand when Christianity is mentioned in this way in America, they are more so talking culturally instead of religiously. I know Christianity is much more than culture, but it has become a staple cultural identity in America specifically and that is why you have people using the label without adhering to the beliefs.

[@tw8464]

The "Christian" Taliban have the same fundamentalist extremist beliefs as the Taliban, humanity as their property, a sectarian fundamentalist extremist theocracy where only one sect is legal, etc. Pretty much Against everything the United States of America 🇺🇸 stands for.

[@matthewvoss7365]

Early on those who opposed having a theocracy called them the Christian Taliban because they want to turn us into a dominionistic dictatorship. Now they openly call themselves the Christian Taliban and admit they are what we always knew they are.

[@k.l.1868]

As a German, a liberal Christian, and a teacher, I'm more and more shocked by what's going on in the US. The lack of critical thinking is astounding. In the whole video, there wasn't anyone giving reasons for their opinions. That is something my students learn in 6th grade. And whenever I hear people saying what they've said in the video I can only think "What does that have to do with you? Why does that concern you personally? And what would Jesus, a man who loved EVERYONE, say about that?"

[@sammyvictors2603]

American evangelical Christians have adopted fascism and theocracy. Its frightening. And I say that as a left-wing Christian who does not want to live in an American theocracy. We had a theocracy once in America, under the Calvinist Puritans, and it lead to witch huntings and hangings.

[@maneshipocrates2264]

American taliban christians are uneducated and their party leaders want them to stay that way and not challenge the status quo.

[@boojeboy1]

As an American, no one cares what you Nazis think.

[@paulstewart9639]

I’m pretty sure Jesus wouldn’t be in favor of sexualizing children.

[@muhammadfarhan4755]

Hi everyone, basically the United States is passing through its twilight years: First, the United States democracy is on the decline from a full democracy to a flawed democracy. Second, the debt of the United States is getting bigger so that it is threatened with bankruptcy. Third, US spending is greater than US income. Fourth, the influence of the United States is decreasing in the international world. Fifth, the citizens of the United States are increasingly divided, thank you 🙏😂

[@stevenlynn2403]

They honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me

[@michaelboano7183]

The problem with foolish action is that it does not appear to be foolish to the perpetrator

[@jackpayne4658]

Whenever I feel depressed about Brexit and the state of British politics, I only need to watch something like this. Then, I feel a huge sense of gratitude for living in a secular, relatively sane country.

[@shawnkim8542]

I am a slave of the slaves of True Lord Jesus Christ. I give all my glory to True God and True Jesus Christ. Please remember this. Amen. Thanks

[@nps7742]

SeculR uk is technically a Christian country

[@Jin420]

@@nps7742 I've attempted to comment the various definitions, but it keeps getting deleted. You should REALLY look up its definition. It's quite the opposite of what you're stating. Ijs.. Good day ✌🏻

[@clarkcates8322]

@@nps7742ell yeah officially but British people are largely nonreligious, and the Church of England/Christianity in the UK is way more reserved than in America

[@politicallyambiguous8424]

Fleeing to Europe certainly looks more and more appealing. This isn't going to end well.

[@laurenschlebach6571]

As a Christian, this is terrifying and not at all what the Bible is about.

[@tomknoll796]

"We establish no religion in this country. We command no worship. We mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are and must remain separate." *Ronald Reagan*

[@MengzisDisciple]

And yet, Reagan was put into office by these same Evangelicals...and every Republican since then has bowed down to them.

[@douglashogg4848]

“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”- John Adams

[@healingsoul13]

Then they reached out to the "Moral" Majority and blurred the lines between politics and religion.

[@samsantucci1044]

Ironic is it not. Epically ironic that Donald Trump, the most immoral of people, who consistently breaks laws, secular and religious - wantonly, the torchbearer for an extremist unchristian like movement. Please, the hypocricy is palpable. Just listen to the hatred filled rhetoric and prejudice these people use in defence of their world views. Talk about common christian principles that all religions hold dear, rather than insignificant differences which separate Americans.

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

Another good example how politicians can contradict themselves and get away with it.

[@raullruizz3883]

Begun by George Washington, signed by John Adams and ratified unanimously by a Senate still half-filled with signers of the Constitution, this treaty announced firmly and flatly to the world that “the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

[@tef_newalbionpacificmedia]

"The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature: and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history...It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had any interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the inspiration of heaven, any more than those at work upon ships or houses, or labouring in merchandize or agriculture: it will for ever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses..... Unembarrassed by attachments to noble families, hereditary lines and successions, or any considerations of royal blood, even the pious mystery of holy oil had no more influence than that other of holy water: the people universally were too enlightened to be imposed on by artifice; and their leaders, or more properly followers, were men of too much honour to attempt it. Thirteen governments thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favour of the rights of mankind.” ~John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America 1787

[@tef_newalbionpacificmedia]

“As the government of the United States of America is not founded in any sense on the Christian religion - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] - and as the said states have never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” 1797 Treaty between the United States and Tripolitania The Treaty of Tripoli (Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary) was signed in 1796. It was the first treaty between the United States and Tripoli (now Libya) to secure commercial shipping rights and protect American ships in the Mediterranean Sea from local Barbary pirates. It was authored by Joel Barlow, an ardent Jeffersonian republican, and signed in Tripoli on November 4, 1796, and at Algiers (for a third-party witness) on January 3, 1797. It was ratified by the United States Senate unanimously without debate on June 7, 1797, taking effect June 10, 1797, with the signature of President John Adams.

[@tef_newalbionpacificmedia]

“As the government of the United States of America is not founded in any sense on the Christian religion - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] - and as the said states have never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” 1797 Treaty between the United States and Tripolitania The Treaty of Tripoli (Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary) was signed in 1796. It was the first treaty between the United States and Tripoli (now Libya) to secure commercial shipping rights and protect American ships in the Mediterranean Sea from local Barbary pirates. It was authored by Joel Barlow, an ardent Jeffersonian republican, and signed in Tripoli on November 4, 1796, and at Algiers (for a third-party witness) on January 3, 1797. It was ratified by the United States Senate unanimously without debate on June 7, 1797, taking effect June 10, 1797, with the signature of President John Adams.

[@tamnickyle]

exactly. the usa was basically created as a secular freemason experiment. the humanist philosophers of the enlightenment of the 18th century, heavily influenced by the protestants, we're INCREDIBLY anti-church, anti-monarchy, anti-religion, anti-tradition. they essentially held proto-marxist views of the abolition of the old power structures of the world and sought to replace it with the "Do as thou wilt" luciferian theology of the freemasons. The more you know!

[@enough1494]

Your arrogance say, you are Christ8na in name only. For true religious aka spiritual people, need not defend or attack any man’s personal relationship with GOD. The religious that arrived killed, raped and stole. I would be very quiet, if I were you.. @@NSOcarth

[@thesilverblack708]

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” - First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America

[@someguy1202]

You're right but now the US government is actively opposed to what The Bible teaches. To what God teaches and tries to normalize all sorts of things that The Bible speaks against. And so what now? What does the faithful pastor do when the US government tells him to deny God's Word and to marry homosexuals? When it tells him to deny God's Word that God created man and woman and trans and gender fluidity is a lie? What does he do then?

[@claudeabraham2347]

"Nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Please include the entire 1st amendment.

[@claudeabraham2347]

"Nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Please include the entire 1st amendment.

[@mswen1983]

@@claudeabraham2347 If your idea of freely exercising your religion is forcing my kids to pray, telling my wife she can't get an abortion, & interfering with my & my doctor's decisions about how to treat my disability, you're not a Christian. You're a Pharisee begging Rome to nail Jesus to a piece of wood.

[@shelovinthecrew]

@@claudeabraham2347 who is preventing Christians from exercising their right to worship. The government only curtails when they wish to infringe on the rights of others like gay people

[@Shahabbi]

These people are so adamant about the Second Amendment that they completely glossed over the First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”

[@whitebird357]

This movement is far from majority numbers and your comment is valid. However, if they reach out to the Vatican for support, they will eventually get the Senate and the House and only the Supreme court will be able to check them. I wonder why the supreme court justices are Roman Catholic?

[@mchandler4722]

You act as though you understand what 'establishment of religion' means. You do not.

[@mygirldarby]

They also haven't read the 2nd amendment and completely ignore the part of their favorite amendment that says, "a _well regulated_ militia..." umm...so ...the 2nd amendment calls for REGULATION. It's clear that the 2nd amendment is talking about the National Guard. These idiot right wingers need to get an education. The 2nd amendment was crafted to give the American people a clear way to fight against these morons. The founders were concerned about coup de tat and formulated the 2nd amendment as a well regulated armed force that could defend the _government_ against idiots like the Oath Keepers. It had nothing whatsoever to do with religion taking over our government. The founders would have been horrified by that idea and about this ignorant group of uneducated fools.

[@mygirldarby]

@@mchandler4722 you act like you know that person and can determine what they know about the first amendment, and you do not.

[@steveaustin2686]

@@mchandler4722 Dude, the so called 'Christian', right-wing nutjobs in this video EXPLICITLY stated that they want to impose their version of religion on everyone else.

[@someonestrange2818]

Not Christian or American, but I am Palestinian so Christianity is very important to me as a part of my heritage and culturally. I don't understand how politicising faith was ever going to accomplish anything at all. Especially when the very First Amendment emphasises the right to Freedom of Belief...

[@tjpm]

I am a Christian and Amrican, but not from the USA. And you are totally right. These are troublesome times. God bless you and your beautiful country. The land were Jesus walked. ♥

[@mrbadway1575]

*If you have ears, hear* Religion is fake...Yeshua is the 10 commandments, whom is the Jew's eternal King or God: and whom became flesh to make himself an example for the Jews as he had promised them; So Obey the 10 commandments and Apply love to your lifestyle; exit religion, for the very first laws is to have no other gods before him, and it is written that no man can serve two masters; Sell your unnecessary possessions and help the fatherless, the widows, the poor, etc. *Again* Love yourself and your fellow brothers and sisters; if you have an extra t-shirt, give it to him that have none; likewise if you have 2 pair of shoes, give one pair to him that have none...*and no vaccine* ....again, If you have ears, hear....

[@proudAmerican-rr2mh]

@@mrbadway1575 you people don't respect anyone but think people should respect you ..

[@Rakotino]

Why not a Christian? Jesus loves you an died for your sins. His grace is free to receive no works that you need.

[@jfm14]

@@Rakotino I don't see anything in the original comment that invited this kind of discussion. Is it so difficult to accept that not everyone shares your beliefs or is interested in practicing your religion?

[@nka8786]

The irony is that the pilgrims and a lot of these people's ancestors fled Europe due to religious persecution only for their descendants to be just as bad if not worse than their oppressors several hundred years later

[@frenchguitarguy1091]

Tbh the puritans were not saints as much as they wish it upon themselves. No wonder they're so self centered

[@ahillmann]

Well, yes, the Puritans who arrived in America did escape England because of religious intolerance. However, the Puritans' own religious views were also highly intolerant of non-Puritans. They wanted to create a theocracy, a godly society based solely on Puritan ideas, one in which non-Puritans would be second-class citizens. The fact that they didn't get to do that in England is what they considered intolerance and made them leave for America. This is a theme one can still see in the language of the religious right in the US: when the religious don't get to discriminate people according to their faith, they call that persecution.

[@roncoots3800]

the abused becomes the abusers

[@_hunter_hunter1048]

Fled Persecution by the Monarchs manipulating religion with their Puppet Fake-Clerics

[@Mark-co8gt]

History of Christian factionalism: I can't believe I'm being forced to follow that religion when clearly it's my religion eveyone should be forced to follow. Actually similar to a modern secular view: I demand that I be allowed to speak "my truth" even it's offensive; and I demand that you don't speak "your truth" if it is offensive.

[@sittingonthemoon2083]

"I never really hated the one true god but it's the god of the people I hated" ~ Marilyn Manson

[@vintageexcellence]

Half of these people blindly believe what they are told and the other half are grifting the first half - it’s that simple

[@DIMITRI-ddd]

I think you are blindly believe what the TV tell you, I bett that you are a climate change lunatic too!

[@gingernightmare9152]

Exactly!

[@thomasramirez1732]

So true

[@mkadi70]

Sadly true

[@VidWatcher1X]

it isn't 50/50. The sheep are always more numerous that Shepards and shearers.

[@sweetlolitaChii]

I DO like Christians. I just want my freedoms same as them. Separation of church and state is non-negotiable to me.

[@reinemarais4392]

Separation of Church and state is also Biblical.

[@reinemarais4392]

@@denisosullivan4065 What does "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." mean?

[@JNJG1999]

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”

[@clayroberts2951]

“It’s easier to fool someone than to convince someone they’ve been fooled”

[@aaliyah3037]

Yupp, like thinking democracy and freedom exists

[@outofthebox9699]

Not stupid, Intelligent.

[@elmo430o]

Never underestimate the power of stupid reporters who work for government controlled news outlets.

[@cc32834]

Just like the lgbt community

[@thomasmazur6916]

They don't even pay taxes... If they want to play they need to pay.

[@Rainymorningsandcoffee]

As a German who has done an exchange year in East Tennessee, I’ve got to say that people there didn’t question things , my host family forced me to go to church with them even tho I wasn’t religious, and every time I looked around the church , people just sat there and believed everything that the pastor told them , one of the things was to vote for trump „because god said so”

[@johnwinthrop2702]

Yup that's sounds like america too me.

[@contentconsumer3743]

Welcome to the land of the free! Now sit down and shut up.

[@sweetlolitaChii]

It was the same where I grew up in Alabama. We had a German exchange student and they were free to do whatever they feel like, but they'd get pressured to go to friend's churches at school.

[@hellhound47bravo3]

Freedom of conscience was totally ignored with that particular host family. They apparently forgot that you were a guest, not their offspring. My apologies to you.

[@kconway2263]

They probably thought they were saving you from your godless ways.

[@petrinajc]

As someone who is in the school system in America. We are more worried about kids reading at their grade level because most are not reading at their level. Math scores are down, kids are too emotionally unstable, and kids don't need religion they need parents to pay more attention to their actual academics. Who cares if they have the Bible in the schools if they can't read it!

[@greglamothe5942]

They shouldn't be allowed in our Public Schools they can homeschool or have their Church school at their own expense public schools are for the public that means everybody all walks of life First Amendment of the United States make him abide present Biden now time to stack the Supreme Court it's supposed to be liberty and justice for all according to the United States Constitution those that override the Constitution should be impeached

[@julies8561]

Clearly you’ve never read or obviously understand the Bible.... education is important but It doesn’t keep you from dying, so no , I’m sorry spirituality is more important. The soul and how good of a person someone is, is WAY more important than how smart they are to me, take a look around can’t you see that? I mean you’d have to bury your head in the sand to not see the degradation of society and the home directly linked to the decline of the Bible and faith in our personal lives

[@richardmyers7847]

@@julies8561 🤣🤣🤣🤣 please stop with fake sky daddy

[@MrZenGuitarist]

Exactly - THAT is rather the point. THIS is NOT what should be the main concern for people today...but rather, what you just said!

[@gavasiarobinssson5108]

BBC cares because BBC hates religion and Christ

[@crystalparker100]

Absolutely frightening and must be stopped.

[@lukeyznaga7627]

better stop them soon.

[@DevinSheaProductions]

@@lukeyznaga7627these fanatics and cult followers have been around for 1000 years. They are all followers. The slaves and labors of society. Every few 100 years the peasants rise up. Their children will be back at the bottom of society when they’re gone e

[@DeTAYL.]

@@lukeyznaga7627it’s so ingrained into the culture here now. I don’t think it can be stopped.

[@lukeyznaga7627]

@@DeTAYL. Agree, unfortunately.

[@ethanjones2901]

⁠@@lukeyznaga7627 @DeTAYL Fuck outta here with that mindset, the future of American Democracy is at stake. We cannot succumb to apathy and just accept defeat; fight with everything you’ve got. We have to put a stop to these lunatics. VOTE!

[@JoanGunter]

How very sad for our country 😢!

[@ashleighnichole8197]

As an American, this is utterly terrifying. As a parent, it's infuriating. These wack jobs need to homeschool or send their kids to private religious schools! What is happening?! It's just so scary.... As a Pennsylvanian...thank goodness that enough of us have enough sense to shut Mastriano down!

[@Morning404]

Thanks for voting Fetterman 💙💙💙

[@MatthewSchellenberg]

So there are more than two genders? Funny because I don't remember a third person when my wife and I made a baby. Murdering babies in the womb is ok with you? So the morality of killing a living breathing feeling human with his or her own DNA is dependent on its location? Men can become women? Sounds like magical thinking. You can believe in magic if you want to but leave me out of your irrational superstitions. You pride yourself in a false sense of moral superiority but objectively speaking your positions are dumb, ignorant, and evil.

[@leesteal4458]

We all know PA is stupid. You don't complain about the indoctrination of children in schools by the LBTQ pushing teachers.

[@tirsden]

As a former child who had to grow up under people like that, what those kids really need is to be rescued from their genetic material providers... people like that do not deserve the title of parents.

[@formalbug5716]

@@MatthewSchellenberg cope and seethe, you utter vermin.

[@otherworld11]

I've been a Christian for 45 years - not only is there not a political party that accurately depicts / represents Jesus or the Gospel, there are few if any churches that do, either. What the word "Christian", or the name "Jesus", actually mean is up for debate. I'm not saying Christians should not run for office or be politically motivated, but let's be very careful about imposing our own ethos onto Jesus.

[@iwill9131]

Sir, in your assertion, I would have to agree with you. However, I have to press the point of your interpretation of the Christ, in all due respect.

[@nathanbrady8529]

Yes, neither party truly represents the teachings of Jesus Christ. However, the is an ideology that does. Undoubtedly, Jesus was a progressive.

[@TheBusttheboss]

@@nathanbrady8529 Most progressives support killing babies. Did Jesus think that it is okay for mothers to slaughter their babies?

[@buahburke9912]

Nathan Brady, if Jesus was a progressive, He wouldn't wear a robe, say, "Go and sin no more." -or heal people; He'd wear leather a**-chaps, have a rainbow ponytail, & teach hatred/"cancellation" of those we disagree with!

[@hollys6299]

@@TheBusttheboss isnt he the son of God? The God who is responsible for more abortions than every mortal combined? Maybe it runs in the family 🤷‍♀️

[@Josh-f6v]

As a Christian living in the UK many of us are sceptical of this kind of preaching especially super churches. I never heard so many people prayer for money and power and miss the message of love :L

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

God Save The King

[@light-pn5kp]

I have never seen a country so confused like the US right now

[@phoenix5054]

Then you have never seen another country.

[@navyseal1689]

Confused? Just faith to religion

[@light-pn5kp]

@@phoenix5054 the founding fathers of the democracy of America were Christians. So if they say "in God we trust", it means the Christian God.. Since the Obama administration, the US want to be more secular, they should just remove all the Christian stuff. It's just an anti religion movement

[@light-pn5kp]

@@navyseal1689 looks confused to me

[@light-pn5kp]

@Sing Love America is the definition of modern nation.. Every change or modernization starts with America. For instance, the LGTBQ thingy started with the US then everyone buys into it.. Be sensible

[@Laughing-doves]

Christian Nationalism is not about your relationship with God. Christian Nationalism is about your relationship with the government.

[@aubreyleonae4108]

Fascism is their God.

[@Barbara-jq2se]

Re: comment: 👆Thank you for pointing this out clearly. 🙏

[@maryjojoyce5379]

I agree. They are not worshipping God, they are worshipping Trump-- that violates the first commandment.

[@leopoldinejafri5740]

🤮

[@4jeffinseattle]

rushdoony and Christian Reconstructionism (Wikipedia)

[@thomasramirez1732]

Some people is confused of what Christianity really is what it means to be a Christian

[@ogribiker8535]

Completely lost even the most basic points of Christianity! 🥺

[@AlbertKimMusic]

​@@ogribiker8535 I don't believe the people in this video are actually true Christians, and I'm an atheist but why is it that people who are either evil or in the LGBTQ community that hates christians? Because they live lives of decency, with morale and ethics? They don't turn to sex, drugs, alcohol, assault during stressed out situations, they pray? I'm not saying every Christian is a good person, but majority, keyword here MAJORITY of Christians live simple, clean and innocent lives. Why do people have to be against that? They live to treat each other with respect as long as it follows the bible, and they just won't associate with who they consider sinners. If a man with a bible comes to your door, just say no thank you and that's that? No one is enforcing religion or anything. Christianity may be full of weird nonsense, biblical legends and what not but, Christianity is just about living a decent life, what is there to be against about it.

[@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights]

@@AlbertKimMusic Majority of Christians aren't following the Bible

[@bubbercakes528]

I is confused by your remark!😂

[@SirLangsalot]

The question of what "true" christianity is, has been debated for 2000 years......

[@utkank65]

No different than Middle Eastern mentality. And look what it has done to it.

[@tw8464]

They're America's version of the Taliban. He said it himself.

[@einherjar8585]

“When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men … but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.” Jesus... according to Matthew.

[@louiewood7689]

I am a committed atheist who loves the Bible and has read the entire thing cover to cover, mainly because it's the BEST argument against most """Christian"""" groups. It's funny, but most of the world's problems would be solved if people just read the f***ing Bible! :)

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

If only the left could exercise their own cults in private too.

[@samuela-aegisdottir]

When you read the New Testament, you see that Jesus was quite progresive. He spoke to women, spoke to children. He told women that their spiritual life is more important that their work in households. He told people not to blindly follow rule but follow their hearts instead. He helped people even if it offended those with traditional values. He insisted that following tradition is not as important as to love. I bet that in modern world, he would be a feminist and an LGBTIQ+ ally.

[@samuela-aegisdottir]

When you read the Bible, the New and the Old Testament, there is so much about helping others, helping poor people, taking care of sick and feeding the hungry, giving shelter to refugees. I can't understand what happened to the Christian right in the USA, that they are so anti-solidarity, anti-universal-healthcare, anti-refugee. It's the richest country in the world and still, there are milions in poverty.

[@rolandforeman7318]

“WORD”!!! 😇🙏🏽☝🏾☝🏾👍🏽👍🏽 😉😎

[@smarie3874]

I’m reading a book about the Iranian revolution. The parallels are eerie.

[@saturationstation1446]

the uk has been funding religious terrorists for well over half a century now. they need people like that in power of as many places as possible because its the easiest way for them to be able to control other countries if they only have to negotiate with a few people instead of everyone in the country. easy way to keep your power is to make sure no one with the will to challenge you is allowed to stay alive. since religion indoctrinates people into not seeking rebellion against their oppressors, its monarchs favorite way to control populations.

[@VelvetMetrolink]

Well all I can say to that is.... oh fuck.

[@ironore1000]

And you believe the status quo and trajectory will be utopia? People are fed up of the liberal, progressive and leftist garbage.

[@sakhilemakama716]

This is a certified Ayatollah Khomeini moment

[@tuforu4]

You know REAGAN HAD THE MUJHADEEN TALIBAN VISITING HIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE YRS AGO FOR TEA I GUESS.

[@rorylynch1203]

In the immortal words of David Bowie, “I’m afraid of Americans. I’m afraid I can’t help that.”

[@kevincourtney7312]

LOL He sure made a lot of money from people he hated. Typical hypocrit trash.

[@billtomson5791]

Perhaps one day I'll understand why he lived in New York.

[@joyschlomer6866]

@@kevincourtney7312 disagree, he was not a hypocrit if anything

[@pifflepockle]

@@bonniebellea He’s dead

[@slayermate07]

@@billtomson5791 simple "i am afraid of Americans. I'm more afraid of being less better off"

[@evefet5491]

I'm a Christian and I'm not voting the way these people think i am.

[@RandomJane104]

Thank you.

[@Jane-g4q4b]

Then Churches Should Pay Taxes

[@gameratortylerstein5636]

They are non profit charitable organisations that benefit society and are not taxed.

[@QuantumSpaceToaster]

@@gameratortylerstein5636 They stop benefiting society as soon as they get involved in politics because that isn't a churches job.

[@echochamber1234]

churches do pay taxes in Germany

[@elizabethwilkerson5434]

@@gameratortylerstein5636Not sure they are benefiting society, more like they are tearing society apart.

[@Leftistattheparty]

@@gameratortylerstein5636 How do they benefit society?

[@MikeM4729]

Your way of life isn’t under threat. Live your life without bringing religion into government institutions.

[@thenaturalbae]

Amen separation of church and state but here we are. Lord have mercy!🤔

[@safiajafali3574]

Christian Taliban haha

[@Ebahandle]

Is under threat. Gay shit is everywhere. Even animals don't do that. You said is your right yet you oppose other beliefs. Using force, media and states. Who defines what we all should believe and accept? If Qatar is not accepting Gay, you tag them. So where is the right for all?

[@Ebahandle]

@@thenaturalbae That what they teach, But the gay people want Qatar to allow them. So where is the separation?

[@alephmale3171]

Everybody votes with their beliefs. The only way to prevent someone from trying to make their beliefs law would be to ban them from being able to enter politics, which is illegal as it would constitute the establishment of a single state-sponsored belief, even if that belief is that there is no God. Atheism is a religion too.

[@phillipinek1856]

Calling your political opponents evil and demonic is probably the oldest argument in the book. It’s funny, sad really, how history repeats itself. As far as we’ve come, this shows that people really don’t change. We’ve always been this way probably always will be.

[@fernie6299]

and this hatred will be the death of us

[@nickfelstead7559]

maybe if they stop pushing their trans kids agenda on them they will stop calling them that lol

[@phillipinek1856]

@@nickfelstead7559 there’s really no excuse for calling people evil and demonic

[@kindperson7047]

@@phillipinek1856 yet everyone calls their opponents evil.

[@barbzfurbernie4560]

Agreed. Which is why I ignore leftists. They claim all conservatives are evil.

[@charlesrobertson7229]

If Christian organizations wants to meddle in politics. They should be taxed heavily.

[@mikemc8535]

As a Catholic, I'm so glad these people hate me too.

[@CoreyBurres]

As a Christian and even fiscal conservative, this is embarrassing. We have failed to disciple people in our faith and this is the result. For those hurt by this false doctrine, I am sorry. Our faith is not always represented by those that claim it as their faith.

[@cocobunitacobuni8738]

are you saying a bad/flawed christian isn't a christian? someone who prays to jesus christ as their lord and saviour and asks for forgiveness of their sins is not christian? a russian soldier who is blessed by his priest in the name of jesus christ and then goes and kills civilians in the Ukraine is as much of a christian as a Ukrainian asking their priest to bless them and protect them in the name of jesus christ. a priest or pastor who molests children is as much of a christian as a child praying for years to jesus to protect them from a molesting priest. isn't the entire point of the gospel that if you ask jesus for forgiveness you will be forgiven?

[@jhonwander9493]

@@cocobunitacobuni8738 Not really. Your intentions when asking for forgiveness must be to change. Many people don't even wish or ask for that, they just keep doing it, without any intention to change, and that my friend must NOT be considered a Christian. They may be think they are, but they are not. Sorry for My Bad English.

[@citizen_wayne]

This is the embarrassing bit? lmao

[@TheRosenstand]

Religion ~ diasese. Simple mathematics.

[@CoreyBurres]

@@cocobunitacobuni8738 nope just missing core tenets of theology. A distant family member is still a member of a family.

[@grantwallace1882]

I see no religion here. This is all about power.

[@public.public]

Real Christians don't act like extreme right wing fundamentalist dictators.

[@cocobunitacobuni8738]

and jesus

[@DarkSkay]

Well, organized religion always has the power aspect. Influencing what people believe - it hardly gets more powerful than that. Historically, to assimilate conquered populations, there's a repeating blueprint: destroy or displace old relics, myths, traditions, forbid or weaken the old Gods, install the new superstar.

[@tvrtvr6984]

Religion was always a political movement.

[@patientswim6888]

@@public.public why is your version of christianity real and theirs is fake? Taking all your beliefs from interpretations of a very old book is your religion. Their interpretations are different to yours.

[@WVgrl59]

Nuts. They are just nuts.

[@kriskabin]

They're fascist BIGOTS who hate women, all ppl of color & especially LGBTQI people. They're CHRISTOFASCISTS domestic terrorists. It's like the start of nazi Germany all over again....

[@77777771955]

Why is this being made by BBC? Thank You for bringing an honest assessment of what is going on in America.

[@VidWatcher1X]

It is being made in BBC because zealtory anywhere affects the rest of the human civilization across the planet.

[@yt.personal.identification]

The list of things the BBC shouldn't report on, should not exist.

[@LJones-tx6eg]

BBC always supports the US Liberal Left. It doesn't matter what the topic is

[@malakatan3235]

Maybe Christians become enemies of state in England

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

Because they are un unbiased third party. Sometimes you can only get a clear view from the outside looking in.

[@neal.karn-jones]

We are in the "information age" yet we are dumbing down incredibly fast.

[@EulogyfortheAngels]

Less intelligent people can settle themselves into extreme echo chambers because there’s no limit to their confirmation biased info.

[@l.r8206]

Enjoy Ru paul trans show...

[@Mrmedia046]

@@l.r8206

[@l.r8206]

@@Mrmedia046 watch the tv for 10 min and tell me what you think...

[@Mrmedia046]

@@l.r8206 haven’t watched TV in 9 years. All the better for it.

[@sethevans5318]

As much as I hate wokeness I still believe in a separation from church and state

[@Guy-mn7zt]

I wish there was a middle side . Not woke but not this nonsense

[@csaracho2009]

@@sethevans5318 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

[@stephenjackson6111]

It's time to stop giving political churches tax exemptions.

[@trenauldo]

Agree 100%. If they’re going to engage in general political discourse in this country, let them pay their price of admission just like everyone else. A politically active religious organization or sect should not be entitled to 503(c) tax exempt status, period.

[@doitf3525]

@@trenauldo the people who wrote that law?

[@erichkorman710]

No religious belief should get any kind of government exception of any kind. The first amendment spells it out but ignorant Anti-Americans only know the end of a sentence in the second and don't even know how many Amendments there are.

[@michaelroyalspencer]

I guess you'll have to start with all the predominantly black churches that have been political for decades now.

[@LC-sc3en]

@@michaelroyalspencer I feel like the difference being the black churches have always fought for an expansion of rights both civil and human to more people historically. They advocate for freedom. While these other churches are advocating for a reduction of freedom for some and an expansion of freedom for only themselves. For example they advocate for the right for businesses to discriminate against people on a religious basis. Back in the 1960s that often included racial discrimination as well as orientation and religion. Today so far it is only orientation and reproductive health. Black churches have historically advocated for anti discrimination laws so that everyone can expect to be treated the same regardless. In this respect I feel that Christian nationalists are fundamentally anti constitutionalists. Where as Black churches have historically been proponents of constitutional rights.

[@shaun9901]

“Those who would renegotiate the boundaries between church and state must therefore answer a difficult question: why would we trade a system that has served us so well for one that has served others so poorly?” ― Sandra Day O'Connor (Conservative former US Supreme Court Justice)

[@jpsphoto-vision8803]

It seems that the only boundary they are trying to fix, is one that just became broken over the last 50 years. Before the 70's the bible was in schools, prayer was in schools, and so was the 10 commandments. Basically what they are saying is if we can have satan worship in schools, (pride) then why can't we also have the bible back.

[@mytruecrimelibrary]

Destroying the separation of church and state is just one of the very specific tactics used to install a fascist authoritarian regime. Freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion are equally important in a free society.

[@thomasellingwoodfortinanameric]

“Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion." The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of it's protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and infidel of every denomination.” ~Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography of Thomas Jefferson

[@tef_newalbionpacificmedia]

Look at Nazi Germany, or Spain, or Italy, all supported the church, signed concordats with the Vatican, but fascism is just the order of the dark ages in modern garb.

[@joestone776]

Well said, and true!

[@columbusmaestro]

We NEED to tax churches like any other business. They are in fact a business!

[@SidewalkCitizenLA]

As an American, I appreciate your coverage of this story. It has not been called out so plainly as a Christian Nationalist push in our media amd it drives me nuts! Thank you!

[@anewleaf6847]

You must be a Democrat.....

[@AlexanderJWF]

It actually has been, just certain news broadcasts choose their rhetoric very carefully to appease their viewers as well as their corporate & financial backers - but we've know it's been a Christian Nationalist movement for years now.

[@jayz8839]

Christianity is the most widespread religion across the globe, U must really hate South Americans who are almost all Christian.

[@anewleaf6847]

@@jayz8839 you could have just wrote hater

[@Callum_Summer0972]

Hey if the media calls you Republican Christians as Christian Nationalist. You should take pride in it.