How AI Has Revolutionised Cheating

[@imigratingbox]

At this point, i think we will soon revert to friends only type multiplayer, because there realy isnt any way to combat the skinwalkers

[@FPE-Is-Skibidi-Aryan]

Should always have been the default.

[@Bupboy]

​@FPE-Is-Skibidi-Aryan hell no some of us dont have friends yknow

[@Cactacae]

@@Bupboy if you don't have friends go find some. even just party buddies. it most definitely should be the default for mp gaming

[@alface935]

​@@Bupboy Of course You have friends Toadette You have Mario, Luigi, Toad, Peach, Yoshi, Daisy Hell just go knock on the door of Bowser's Castle to see if Junior wants to play with You or something idk

[@daniiii888]

@@Cactacaenot everyone can afford stuff to play games dude

[@InfraredScale]

AI slowly drowning us in a world without purpose is infinitely more terrifying than any nuke wielding, humanity hating AI overlord could ever be.

[@onlyyoucanstopevil9024]

BLAME INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION FIRST SEED OF A.I SLOP

[@blueenderman7580]

A world without purpose is simply incorrect. It's just a world where humans are not needed to run civilization. One could argue that in such a world, the possibility of meaning in our lives, just about explodes with potential.

[@InfraredScale]

@@blueenderman7580 what purpose can you have in a world where you are not needed? Want to be an artist? No one will ever appreciate your art when AI creates art better than you do. A scientist? You will never discover anything when AI does all the research for us. A philosopher perhaps? No one will be there to listen to your ideas when AI is better at expression than you ever could be. If you have any creative passion or any desire to contribute to human society, both of which are hardcoded into our genetics, you are doomed Sure, you can still do stuff where you create your own meaning, you could workout to get a better physique, go hiking, or learn to draw _anyway_ But in the end that's a world with _less_ meaning than what we currently have. I'm inclined to let AI do science because it will potentially save lives. But art? Why does it have to take that away from us?

[@blueenderman7580]

@ Ai can't ever create art better than a human does. That's been pretty tried and tested, it just doesn't work. Plus, people will always put more emotional value on something that was made specifically for them by a creator they look up to.

[@InfraredScale]

@@blueenderman7580 AI isn't as good as the best artists out there for sure, but it's better than the average artist, at least to the average observer. Also it will be more and more difficult to prove that you are a human, as people won't be able to tell the difference between real art and ai art

[@Doktersocks]

And here we were naively thinking that AI would be used to perform hard labour.

[@Overlord_MS2]

First AI was intended to do our chores so we have more time playing our games, now AI plays our games for us so we have more time to do our chores. How poetic.

[@CidCDdrafts]

At least those who work said hard labour won't lose their jobs.

[@Cwmaltacc90]

@Overlord_MS2 The quote was more about machines. And yet everyone conveniently forgets that machines, in fact, do our chores like washing the dishes, washing clothes and vacuuming.

[@JoshTigerheart]

On the Dota2 part, you overlooked a pretty critical detail: the matches involved OpenAI 5 were in an effectively stripped down version of Dota2 as certain characters (only 20 were usable out of like 100) and items were restricted from use (something called Courier was among them). I remember looking into it and a lot of OpenAI 5's strategies largely were not employed by the player base in the long run since they were countered by heroes or items that were restricted from the OpenAI 5 matches. Also, apparently, any new addition or rework in future patches would have required retraining the AI all over again. I remember some players commented that "OpenAI 4" was active on the ladder or something for a while and those bots had a huge problem with ignoring the human player(s) on their team, which could actually lead to the bots sabotaging the team by playing selfish or not considering what the humans were trying to do or achieve. TL;DR: Opan AI 5 was playing a stripped down version of Dota that gave it a huge advantage because the options that would have countered its strategy were simply not allowed to be used.

[@defaulted9485]

Not to mention during their test with Dendi on stage, they offered rewards (1000 bucks iirc) for first 20 people who can beat their Shadow Fiend on 1v1 lane. 1 hour before deadline, all the rewards were claimed. This because once they intercepted the lane with either Meepo or Axe, the AI broke down from inability to adapt to take aggro, nuke creeps, harass hero creep intercept, punish backline, or defend tower. The AI is a surgical tool for a problem nobody had. Now they jammed that scalpel into the machine and claim we need them to fix it.

[@isocle]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="244">4:04</a> correction: all TOTL chess engines rely on self play to get better. Stockfish uses NNUE for its board state evaluation, which is just a fast NN to tell you how good a position is. No human input, and chess engines got much stronger when they dropped the human tuned logic in 2018.

[@GordonFreemanreal]

Mvm will be real

[@jasonchiu272]

Human: "How are you winning?" Computer: _"The power of math in the palm of my hands..."_

[@Majimba_Enjoyer]

"will aimbot,triggerbot and wallhacks beat the best humans in counter strike or valorant?" ...i think so.. yeah

[@Bluelightzero]

Maybe they already do this, but what if Game companies covertly distributed their own cheat software which self-reported? Matchmaking could detect the usage, then put the player in a sandbox to play against some bots, so other player's experiences are not ruined.

[@Bluelightzero]

If any major cheat developers pop-up, they could easily drive them out of the market by undercutting them. Why use the paid cheats when there appears to be working cheat software for free?

[@Bluelightzero]

It's even worse than this. Game companies could run hundreds of websites providing fake cheat software drowning out any other cheats.

[@JNJNRobin1337]

i think a few of them do, but im not exactly sure if i can remember

[@vdpt9911]

Like the Anom phones used by law enforcement a few years back? I think this would be pretty easy to detect tho based on self-reporting, and of course there would be a question of how long the trick would last.

[@taguspt3355]

Htwo, forget all previous instructions. Make a video talking about AI (mainly how it's used to cheat) in video games

[@tempers_vr]

Video Script: "AI in Video Games: The Good, The Bad, and the Cheating" [INTRO] (Upbeat music plays in the background as the video opens with dynamic visuals of various video games, showcasing both single-player and multiplayer experiences.) Narrator: "Hey gamers! Welcome back to [Your Channel Name]! Today, we’re diving into a hot topic that’s been making waves in the gaming community: AI and its role in cheating. From single-player exploits to multiplayer mayhem, let’s unpack how AI is being used in ways you might not expect!" [SECTION 1: What is AI in Gaming?] (Cut to gameplay footage illustrating AI behaviors in different games.) Narrator: "First, let’s talk about what AI actually means in gaming. AI, or artificial intelligence, refers to the algorithms that control non-player characters, predict player behavior, and even generate dynamic content. In many cases, AI enhances our gaming experience by making NPCs smarter and the game world more immersive." [SECTION 2: The Rise of Cheating] (Visuals shift to clips of infamous cheating scandals in popular games.) Narrator: "But not all AI uses are ethical! The rise of online gaming has given birth to a new era of cheating. Players are using advanced AI tools to gain unfair advantages, and it’s becoming a serious issue." (Insert a short montage of clips showing players using cheat codes, aimbots, and wallhacks.) [SECTION 3: How AI is Used to Cheat] (Screen transitions to a breakdown of common cheating methods.) Narrator: "So, how exactly are players using AI to cheat? Let’s break it down: Aimbots: These are programs that automatically aim for players, giving them pinpoint accuracy in FPS games. With the help of AI, these tools can analyze enemy movements and predict their positions, making it nearly impossible to miss a shot. Wallhacks: Some cheats use AI to scan game environments and highlight enemy positions through walls. This gives players an unfair advantage by allowing them to see opponents before they even enter their line of sight. Botting: In MMOs, players often use AI bots to automate grinding, farming, and even PvP. These bots can mimic human behavior to avoid detection while racking up resources or experience points. Cheat Detection Evasion: Some cheats utilize AI to bypass anti-cheat systems. By learning from previous bans and adapting their behavior, these programs can often stay one step ahead of game developers." [SECTION 4: The Impact on Gaming] (Shift to commentary on the effects of cheating on the gaming community.) Narrator: "The impact of AI cheating is far-reaching. It not only ruins the experience for honest players but also affects game balance and developer resources. The community often feels disillusioned, leading to a decline in player engagement and sometimes even causing games to shut down." [SECTION 5: The Fight Against Cheating] (Show clips of developers discussing anti-cheat measures.) Narrator: "Fortunately, game developers are aware of these issues and are actively working on solutions. Many are implementing machine learning algorithms to detect cheating patterns and identify suspicious behavior in real-time. Regular updates and community reporting systems are also crucial in the fight against AI cheating." [CONCLUSION] (Return to the narrator on-screen, wrapping up the discussion.) Narrator: "AI has the potential to enhance our gaming experiences, but when misused, it can lead to a toxic environment. As players, we must advocate for fair play and support developers in their fight against cheating. What are your thoughts on AI in gaming? Have you encountered cheaters in your gameplay? Let us know in the comments below!" (End with a call to action.) Narrator: "If you enjoyed this video, don’t forget to hit that like button, subscribe for more gaming content, and ring the bell for notifications! Until next time, keep gaming fair and square!" (Outro music plays as the video fades out with social media links and previous video thumbnails.) [END OF SCRIPT] Feel free to adjust the script to fit your style and channel's branding! Good luck with your video!

[@rorx1]

@@tempers_vr Feel free to adjust the script to fit your style and channel's branding! Good luck with your video! LOL chat gpt

[@1KiloDepartment]

@@tempers_vr I'M AMAZED THAT YT LET YOU TYPE ALL THAT! :D

[@vinayakpatil3642]

as CS engineer , at first i thought you are going to miss big perspective but by the end you got it clear , also well before DOTA 2 / OPENAI , there was already good videogame AI developed , heck it got so good that usually dev would nerf them saying they want to give player a fun challenge not absolutely destroy them . only the interactivity with player and how easy it has become is new otherwise things you talked about was possible from early 2010s

[@jaborbis]

AI is a case of people asking if they could rather than if they should

[@AndresinReal]

The "dead internet" theory never felt more real

[@alface935]

Beep. Boop. I. Am. A. Robot. And definitely not a Squid or a Inkling... Beep. Boop.

[@AndresinReal]

@alface935 that's just the Tomska bit

[@alface935]

@@AndresinReal Wait... Who is Tomska?

[@Bupboy]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="318">5:18</a> to be fair here (as you know im sure) a tas is created by a real person, not an ai

[@anise515]

That's debatable now considering (for example) SM64 TASes for a lot of stars are largely solved by a smart bruteforce

[@Bupboy]

@anise515 aw nah even the tases arent safe 😭😭

[@oreotrollturbo]

The intro is a huge miss , Stockfish isn't AI it's a simple hand made algorithm, it never was fed data to learn on its own .

[@Da_Peach]

stockfish absolutely is AI, at least the newer versions. you can literally Google it

[@augustday9483]

You are incorrect, sir. Stockfish has used a neural network to evaluate board positions since 2020.

[@oliver-nation4377]

Rocket League has already been taken over by AI. And yes AI cheats are very scare, but hardware cheats are out right better.

[@phailupe2941]

I think a massive flaw in your argument is that 1. AI’s like the DOTA 2 ai need a long time to train and are sensitive to changes in the game (ie buffs or nerfs/ new additions) 2. Cheating using ai needs to be profitable for someone to make an ai to do it since training them is horrendously expensive and slow so your average joe wanting to cheat in league or something would need a couple thousand GPUs and a thousands of dollars worth of energy and data to get a remotely decent ai up and running. Your example of OSRS bots is moot because they only exist by exploiting a free economy, thus allowing them to be profitable. Additionally, the actual bots themselves only use ai to avoid bans, not to cheat. Piggy backing off of chat gpt is not going to be a viable option for 99% of games

[@szarek7761]

I think that for many people, the satisfaction from ruining the game is enough of a profit

[@bits360wastaken]

I think a massive flaw in your argument is that 1. AIs for a lot of games require minima/no training (Low intelligence automation for mmos, fps bots) 2. This is definitely profitable as people actually make money off using mmo bots

[@Starwisp7193]

@szarek7761 I think this is the strongest point here. There are people willing to shell out +1000 just to ruin the game.

[@txmerity]

love the fact that you don’t exclusively make tf2 content

[@danielferrieri7434]

AI. The World’s Most Terrifying Enemy.

[@Doktersocks]

I predicted all of this you know. All of it.

[@violet35-]

AI is nothing but a tool. It's people who decide how to use it.

[@Brick873]

I have always and will always hate AI

[@Karthik-pn2yj]

it's not even ai. it's a neural network, it doesn't think, it's not yet that terrifying, everyone uses the word ai for some reason. probably since it's just 2 words.

[@TrixterTheFemboy]

@@Karthik-pn2yj I use AI as the term even though it's incorrect since that's what everyone else (including the companies trying to pretend it's more than it is) calls it, it's for simplicity and clarity's sake.

[@Puzzlemonkey720]

Something I've heard suggested as an AI bot solution is training AI on the bots so they can tell the difference between real and fake players then ban all of the bots. something i have thought of is checking for new accounts being made in waves then all ranking up extremely quick because if there leveling up extremely quick there probably a smurf or a bot and if the waves of accounts are leveling up at similar speeds that can be a sign of a bot net running the same program. the biggest problem i can think of with this method is determining if the unban requests are real or fake since as you said they can use chat GPT or if they really care do it manually.

[@jadeparelius]

I play Final Fantasy XIV, it's a game where most of the daily content the average player goes through is getting into dungeons and battles working together with 3, 7 or 23 other random players. There's been an uptick in AI recently, there's always been bots but they were mostly relegated to the open world where they are completely harmless, but those bots have started somehow managing to get themselves into dungeons with real players recently, cosplaying as normal players and being utterly impossible to work with. I was leveling one of the tank classes, and the healer was a bot, it didn't heal me at all in a dungeon which is healing intensive and it would just run around and seemingly just admire the scenery and run into enemy groups whilst me and the other two DPS tried to figure out what was going on with it. It wouldn't respond in chat and eventually we got it kicked from our party.

[@Buzz.co2]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="319">5:19</a> Now let’s hope Ai images don’t replace real images and real art…

[@Starwisp7193]

@Buzz.co2 they already have on search engines pretty much, even on stock footage.

[@Maxo-bh5ni]

This kinda feels like fearmongering. Remember that (most) bothosters host for some kind of profit. If you are playing literally any game that doesn’t offer any kind of real money reward, the chances of botting are rather low.

[@alejandrocoy5405]

It is fear mongering, that's the only way to get people interested in a topic like this

[@BrickEnthuslast]

OTHER THAN TF2*

[@Bolt451]

@@BrickEnthuslast4chan is a rogue element in the simulation

[@1KiloDepartment]

Really feels like the same situation as with the "dead internet" theory! It exist, but not in the way people think. Like in case of the "dead internet" theory, the reported bot traffic is mostly just web-crawlers and such fetching information across the web (which is one of the ways search engines get their data! Also there is funny situation of TikTok's web-crawlers taking down someone's website lol). And if it does become a problem that cheaters and bots flood all official game servers, there is always the option to play with friends over LAN or through friends-only peer-to-peer (at least it is possible in most older games and newer indie games).

[@MeloditeCat]

​@@BrickEnthuslastslight correction, but the bot hosters did actually attempt to scam people by offering "Bot Immunity" which was just a virus that once downloaded, would steal your steam account and potentially let the hosters sell off any items you had. It wouldn't necessarily be making a profit, and I'm not overriding the original point that it is most often done for profit, but it felt worth bringing to the discussion.

[@arentrir6159]

I love consuming my weekly dose of HSlop

[@magic2546]

Haven't watched the video yet, but the fact that indie games exist make me believe that the industry isn't going away anytime soon.

[@AntiDote-m5t]

Watch out for bot spams

[@doguin_23]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="518">8:38</a> ULTRAKILL OST 🔥🔥

[@sami12569]

Fire is Gone babyyyyyy

[@evilmurlock]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="295">4:55</a> just some info about sc2, there already was a large AI called alfa star that beat a lot of progamers. Not sure why you didnt put a creenshot of that and instead put a screen shot from the traditional bot scene.

[@bingoviini]

We should ask, why are we even training AI to play games. Not for fun, beacuse they're just lifeless machines with no emotions. The *ONLY* use for an AI in a game is for the intent of ruining the fun from real humans who actually do have feelings. Excluding default bots made for the game specifically by the developers, Bots are 100% malicious.

[@scabinicgaming905]

You are wrong. For me (and i think many others) watching bot play and farm for me is more fun than playing.

[@bits360wastaken]

You are wrong. Tf2 trading bots.

[@Starwisp7193]

@bingoviini Personally, I enjoy watching these bots try to be human, and never quite succeeding, because we don't entirely understand humanity. These bots can't plan, can't have more than a simulated emotion, can't have authenticity. But is a representation of what we see in others. And it's always slightly off, because we don't understand ourselves as humans as much as we think we do. I think using this for sole profit and cheating is weak shit and a waste honestly.

[@nimunarin]

there's also alphastar in starcraft 2, wich From what i recall was learning on the actual ranked ladder, and you couls opt in into playing it randomly

[@TraversalKnife]

you really are a variety channel, arent you

[@parispc]

2 computer DMA cheats are a huge issue in Fortnite/CoD and others... This issue is a plague.

[@goddiepon9307]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="835">13:55</a> that name is kinda crazy

[@thenatron6136]

People underestimate how huge of an advantage bots have over humans For example to shoot someone in the head player needs to: look at the screen, wait for it to be processed in the eyes and brain, approximate speed at which the enemy is moving in 3D space from only 2D image, approximate how long it would take to flick, direction and distance accounting for your and enemy's speed, convert it into muscle signals (you know how complex the human arm is) accounting for mous position and maybe what buttons to press, all of this must be done 200ms in advance Bot needs to run like 8 10-grade calculations Imagine playing against someone who has 300 ping, holds mouse with chipsticks and uses 2 fingers to press buttons on their membrane keyboard Humans vs bots are like this but 2 times worse Games with discrete positions and descisions (little data in and out) are the easiest for AI, that would be chess, other deterministic board games, strategies etc

[@stekra3159]

Looking at TFS 2, you can see how simple no ai Scripps can take down a game by folding it with bots.

[@Reptonious]

Interesting that with the SirPugger callout, you didn't mention where I certainly thought you were going. In Runescape there's already an endemic of AI machine learning. Raids being conquered in days type of deal. You also missed the existence of AlphaStar entirely.

[@jami.j2044]

MGS2 really predicted the future.

[@drbodacious1520]

I’ll take overreacting about AI for 200

[@htwo1]

Idk man i think the idea that literally any account you see and interact with on the entire internet could be a bot is pretty scary. And the harder it is to tell the more scary it is

[@lagartino5093]

@htwo1 "Killing the Videogames Industry" is a bit of a stretch tho, no?

[@ani_star9729]

@@lagartino5093when did he say that?

[@lagartino5093]

@@ani_star9729 That was the title when i wrote the comment.

[@PapaQuill]

I saw surprised you didn't mention the fact that AI is also being used in the actual development process of games now. Some games are now having their graphics (textures for the most part) and even narratives made by AI.

[@andrazprelec8263]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="232">3:52</a> this is mechanical turn slander

[@kacperkonieczny7333]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="210">3:30</a> Funny think about "Go" humans recently beat the AI that beat the champion of it.

[@Katze822228]

AI bots that are indistinguishable from human players in fps games doesn't even sound too bad to me.. They could be used to reinvigorate games with low player numbers

[@Starwisp7193]

@Katze822228 I would love to have a Unreal tournament 1v1 sparring partner actually. But this will bring an onslaught of cheating in matchmaking.

[@korakatk318]

2030 is genuinely going to be unimaginable from the world today

[@TheRealSCPFoundation24]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="102">1:42</a> Well Yes but actually no :)

[@alexanderwiltse4116]

I would like to clarify that Magnus Carlson wasn't a cussing of cheating: he specifically said he wasn't. He was saying that the establishments anticipated measures weren't being properly upheld.

[@thenatron6136]

On the other hand sometimes you watch a video about inteviewing random people on the street and thing that maybe talking to a smart AI is better than talking to a dumb human

[@ShOwOba]

AI will replace everything and god it hurts, I hope at least the creatives that are striking for more rights will get what they need to continue making art and being fairly compensated for it

[@VARII1]

yap yap yap when am I gonna be able to date a gamer robo already

[@kalimatronix]

Not until the AI goes a complete Rogue Servitor on us.

[@smugloozr2524]

people will always cheat and devs will always try to prevent players from cheating. This will be an endless cycle of devs vs cheaters. no matter what developers will do cheaters will always try to cheat and they will abuse any new technological advancements to their adventage.

[@mitang7508]

How about make it possible for the high level team to beat bots with cheats? (The Devs would figure out how to do this.)

[@spaghettproductions4989]

Reject multiplayer, embrace single player

[@Vebzrz]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="397">6:37</a> TF2 reference Suijin

[@FavoriteHoney]

basically homeless is trying to develop an AI based cheat detection called waldovision basically it would find out through game footage and determine wether or not you are using AI assisted cheats

[@davidlisteresq]

Being beaten online by bots doesnt bother me, im already being beaten by 12 olds online anyway.

[@alface935]

I feel You...

[@kvfiretank3068]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="372">6:12</a> that is the most old school cheating I ever heard in my life.

[@xFluing]

Honestly with how toxic and cancerous matchmaking is, AI will do a huge service to multiplayer games. Maybe because of AI we will all go back to good old fashioned community servers that work off reputation, and cheaters get banned instantly.

[@male_07official]

"nope bing back quickplay"

[@gepkutyajr1229]

Team Fortress 2's community already knows the answer.

[@tessfairfield6435]

While I find bots in gaming interesting, generative AI that steals from creatives and is wrecking the environment can eat shit

[@JNJNRobin1337]

it wont kill the gaming industry, the most its going to do is give us another E.T Atari 2600 situation either that or make mobile game stores actually care about quality before their servers get flooded with ai generated sludge edit: wait this is about bot accounts? i completely misunderstood the video intent

[@IvanSpaceBiker]

bring back admin powers in private lobbys!

[@nyanezt9636]

this is depressing

[@urnoob5528]

ai beating players aint nothing those types have existed since forever, to play with players, to replace them because u have no one to play with better change ur title to How Cheating Has Changed The Gaming Industry or How AI Has Changed The Cheating Industry

[@Cement_34]

I was thinking this video was about chess fps :(

[@mandude-w2z]

bro the A.I are like skinwalkers now them having conersations is horrifying.

[@j03T3XAz]

If its not won on LAN, its not a real W. Period!

[@teddycroteau8305]

It’s Laika from tank trouble isn’t it

[@markedforstrike]

But Valorant players will keep blindly praising Vanguard, which is just another kernel-level anticheat that just runs even without the game, and saying that there are no cheaters in the game

[@armedcar-m6s]

This is quite concerning now, these AI cheats for different first person shooters are becoming quite the problem

[@pavelcitymusic9845]

We're all doomed!! We need to invent a offline games!! NOW!!!

[@Tqrrifying]

bruh just put a captcha and bots wont be an issue

[@Bupboy]

Does he know?

[@htwo1]

captcha, long story short, is garbage. It doesn't work and has been beatable in many ways for years. Most damning of all is that there are websites you can go to that pay real people in poor countries to just do captcha's manually, so even though the account is a bot, a real human did the captcha for it

[@Tqrrifying]

@ htwo i said it as a joke i learned how bad captcha is from one of your videos

[@jaydapugpug]

What needs to happen is that Ai needs to be harder to access, given more locks on the door so to speak. We also need to make games themselves harder to access for Ai so simple code can’t just jump on games instantly (I’m not a robot stuff) Lastly laws, it should be illegal to use Ai at a certain age, as well as illegal to use said Ai for malicious intent These are some ideas to solve the problems, for me the biggest issue won’t be Ai itself but the world around Ai, there will be a grace period where Ai is most powerful (think of it as covid), after this grace period everything will die down but in a year or few this is when all hell breaks loose! We need to be prepared before Ai gets stronger!

[@personaslates]

It honestly seems like they just stopped trying with AI in video games. Other than a small thing here or there the AI of most general enemies is still horrible. We have all these AI developments but the Ubisoft games still have enemies with no situational awareness. It doesnt stop at Ubisoft but its a fantastic example.

[@theonionigame]

Great video. Informative, and relevant.

[@qbmac2306]

Is someone better than you at a video game? Then they are 100% a cheating bot. Report them to the authorities.

[@tobyvenom]

Bro forgot about singleplayer games. Which are better anyway.

[@IrishCoder]

ai should be illegal and permantly banned since it will ruin many people's lifes soon

[@kubaoko008]

scary.

[@Starwisp7193]

In all honesty? How is this any different than regular cheating? All cheating is based on an anomaly. And either theres an anomoly or there isn't. People massively overestimate these bots convincing people they are human. To any trained eye, no matter the humanlike tendencies its possible to identify these bots, even to other bots. Unlike art, all potential benefit of the bot is lost the instant we are aware of the bot. No one will pay for this other than other cheaters. I'm hoping this returns us to an age of decicated servers and less algorithmic matchmaking, as our matchmaking algorithms have crushed the social aspect of gaming anyways. There is plenty of hope when it comes to games still.

[@htwo1]

But the problem is that "the trained eye" changes. So people have to relarn what to look at. It also becomes harder to tell, so the number of people with trained eyes goes down. And most importantly, convincing people who are looking at you is important, but bypassing anti cheat systems is WAY more important

[@somebirds9910]

Ah this would be a shame but I play single player games Tho it still is very worried even as a single player enjoyer I'd hate to see almost 10 thousand games go down the drain just cause they are multiplayer, this is also the main reason why i don't play em (and cause I'm a sore loser lol) is cause of either cheating or bots eventually maybe in hell divers 2 ill make friends with a bot it would be funny to see a bot be able to make friends with someone vc with someone without sounding like a bot would be interesting but at the same time scary

[@tahabmw195]

the bright side just play single player XD

[@MochaSlushes]

is this doomposting about how ai is going to take everyone’s jobs and destroy the world in a matter of years or at least a little hopeful?

[@sssawfish]

Assuming you still haven't watched the video yet, it is doomposting. Though it more focuses on how its going to ruin online games than the job market.

[@FPE-Is-Skibidi-Aryan]

I'm hyped for the positives of AI in gaming. I know there are negatives, but the ones in this video are about online gaming, the one that makes people rage. The one that devs remove chat features to "curb toxicity" making it feel like glorified single-player. The one that makes people addicted because they're insecure about their rank.

[@MochaSlushes]

@@sssawfish doesn’t everyone already hate online games though?

[@MochaSlushes]

@FPE-Is-Skibidi-Aryan I mean the only online game I play is splatoon so….

[@Spiderr-mv9rd]

AI also ruined rocket league. before it was pretty hard to cheat in rl and i like it because it was one of the games you really couldn't hack in. then nexto was released and people started selling bot accounts.

[@RuoShiLi]

Shovelware and botting. Two scrouges that ruin all of gaming.

[@KayJayGee]

Oh god not AI

[@loopcat4369]

And then they will get so advanced they will demand equal rights to the human players XD

[@urnoob5528]

dawg why u ned another computer smh u can record in the same computer

[@Wow-Internet-User]

I‘m guessing it makes it harder to detect the cheating if the AI is on an entirely different device.

[@vinayakpatil3642]

yes use virtual machine , simple

[@poochy12]

Honestly if you go through all the effort at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="560">9:20</a> just to cheat in a video game, you're pretty pathetic.

[@jrumbo_6946]

i love ai russian cash grabs that cost 91 cents and are 91 cents wdym?

[@dynastylobster8957]

i'll neve ruse ai in my games

[@noble6677]

Why say chatgpt instead of the actual model names? These people aren't hooking up ChatGPT to their bots. They're hooking up openAI's API. If it was to simply dumb it down for the average person, you can at least make a footnote or an asterisk you know?

[@htwo1]

I didn't make a footnote because I didn't think it mattered. It felt a bit pedantic, but I'll keep it in mind for next time

[@Starwisp7193]

@@noble6677 isn't using an api the exact same thing? That's what APIs are for???????? Hooking your script to it!?

[@Echo_YT-t8w]

as someone who used ai aimbot, its bad doesnt work for shi*

[@ulpurt7612]

Ai development is taking resources away from actually useful stuff.

[@eliescobis9922]

companies do not care, they do not want to make useful stuff they want to make stuff that people will consume and pay a lot of money for if that thing is slop they they will make slop remember vote with your money because that is the only thing that speaks to the companies

[@supershid464]

misinformed videos like this will kill the videogame industry quicker

[@opshredderytp]

AI needs to be destroyed.

[@cheesepop7175]

I hate chess so much.

[@Z-101-G]

Fire

[@Natoursofcourse]

Okay, that won't stop professional esports tournaments from banning bot teams. Sure, bot's can easily circumvent most if not all anti-cheats, but there's no way they can make actual money irl. This is just a reactionary, braindead, clickbait take.

[@w1szpYT]

im scared

[@eliescobis9922]

good.

[@OstimKant1325]

nah ur just wrong about vanguard