How America could descend into civil war | The Story

The prospect of internal conflict, as depicted in Alex Garland’s new film ‘Civil War’, is no longer regarded as an impossibility in America. With millions of guns in circulation, militia membership on the rise, and citizens relocating along ideological lines, could the US descend into a new civil war?
Guests: Sarah Baxter, Director of the Marie Colvin Center for International Reporting.
Barbara F Walter, Rohr Professor of International Affairs at the School of Global Policy and Strategy at the University of California in San Diego.
Host: Manveen Rana.
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[@chrissnatchko7795]

This is absolutely the most abrasive, content I can ever remember listening to. This is the reason why America is divided. You are absolutely the problem

[@billymcelwain531]

It is filled with lies and misrepresentation that is the very reason the country is on the cusp of civil war.

[@gtrdxz]

America for americans, go find a safe space

[@LA-kc7ev]

Thank you, from an American. Times Radio sounds like our Democrats.

[@sophrapsune]

What a clearly biased discussion.

[@rcbrown22]

Agreed 💯

[@billymcelwain531]

Unbelievably so.

[@heathermcgourk2689]

Of course, this is very "Left Leaning "

[@user-te5xg5xg4g]

of course...

[@anastasiabeaverhausen5467]

Can always count on the Times for the hysterical view….US reportage from this outlet is so without nuance and fact and has been for years.

[@wlhjr77]

With everything going on in the world now, this is the best you could come up with?

[@SuperbStevieG]

Does this person not understand the difference between Federal and State Prosecutions?

[@vignetteorleans1631]

We are in a civil war but this time it is not with guns or bombs.

[@blafonovision4342]

Silly. The American Civil War just went from a hot war to a cold war. There has been no change since 1865.

[@jordanmoody2196]

Unfortunately that’s true

[@blackwind743]

Well the social engineering after the Great Depression was meant to push the poor rural gun folk who might resent corporate power into the Republican party where they would blame everyone but corporate power for their problems. Now that the country is kind of headed in a socialist direction from the youth it wouldn't surprise me if Trump was trying to incite these people to get their guns taken away.

[@penelopegreene]

Times Radio is getting weird.

[@hoover573]

America has gotten weird

[@penelopegreene]

@@hoover573 Take away The GOP and Russian commenters on social media and 90% is gone.

[@StevenBarnes-cd4yf]

Here we have Murdoch's creatures on one side of the Atlantic enlightening us to the horrors his monsters on the other side of the Atlantic worked so hard to bring forth.

[@jamestheman1962]

What side the Pond ye from,as they on Murdoch's side of the Pond see all the DEI diverse and woke stuff coming from the American side,ie California just as one example,and then the less than friendly hand over of the presidency at your last election,so less of pointing the finger at other nations,lead a lot more of a bad picture of your future on the next election hand over,make the scenario of a civil war well not that to hard to take in,but it wont happen as the American people will not allow that,themselves to take place.

[@eff7239]

That’s what happens when you don’t call in national guard when they were waiting near by. Just like what’s happening on college campuses. Just like what’s happening in Ukraine. Slow to respond allows things out of control.

[@torbenalstrup3902]

You got a very valid point there

[@billymcelwain531]

Thank God you see truth.

[@pauljay365]

Disgusting how biased this channel is. No bipartisanship

[@StevenBarnes-cd4yf]

It's owned by the Murdoch's just like Fox news.

[@billymcelwain531]

It is worse than that. These people are fomenting civil war with the continuation of perverted misinformation and deception. This channel is the actual cause of conflict. Until people review actual facts and not narratives, there is no hope for peace.

[@AndyBeltran278]

The idea of civil war is deeply unsettling, but it's a stark reality we must confront. Let's prioritize dialogue, understanding, and empathy as we strive to build a more inclusive and resilient society.

[@Donner906]

So we have to have dialogue with the idiots that attempted an insurrection on January 6th?

[@inabsentia439]

You can't reason with the ignorant and the mentally challenged, but good luck with that.

[@billyungen]

@@Donner906 Not only them, but also the BLM and Antifa "Peaceful Protesters" who burnt down entire swathes of America's large metropolises. Yes, they all have to get along with one another. Pity, eh? But that's why "tolerance" and "inclusion" are so often touted.

[@linmal2242]

@@Donner906 Yes, they spruike 'dialogue' but over react when urged by a 'Chump ' !

[@Villain1874]

The U.K is heading in the same direction - our arrogant politicians have placed us on a horrendous path.

[@dallastaylor5479]

No. The politicians reflect the people. We are the ones who are pushing them. We have succumbed to our own tribalism egged on and enhanced by the disinformation courtesy of Russia and China.

[@keithlillis7962]

What path might that be?

[@NeonVisual]

@@keithlillis7962 Tory corruption. Although Tory fetishists will say tHeRe aLl aS bAd aS eAcHoThEr despite no one else actually having any power to change anything while that pint sized runt and the death rattle of the Tories remain in power no one ever gave him.

[@patrickquinlan3056]

Yeah, let us know all about this horrendous path.

[@phax71]

@@keithlillis7962 Have you been in the UK for the past 14 years? Its like the fecking End Times under these thieves. I’m 53 and have NEVER seen the UK in such a bad state as it is now - Socially, Politically, Economically, Its FECKED, all whilst we’re creating more Billionaires and Multi Billionaires than ever, Go figure eh...

[@MonPenn]

Wow I'm from Pa and everyone is acting the same but guns are apart of life in America and won't point one at you unless you say or do something to people 😂😂

[@nathanhoffman20000]

This is a silly piece. That movie was so flat.

[@annaboudreauwoodside4723]

7 years old - my friends brother "accidentally" shot her. Her name was Carlene and I learned that day that a gun in the wrong hands could cost me a friend. I was 14 when Maine State Troopers showed up at our house with the news that my brother had been found with a gunshot wound to his chest, alone in the woods he died. His name was Billy, and my six kids never got to know their Uncle Billy. He was climbing over a fence and didn't practice the safety he had been taught, and we lost him. Gun advocates pretend that THEY are safe with guns and that's all it takes, except my brother at 21 didn't practice that safety, and pretending they all do is stupidity. We aren't safer with all these guns - we are far less safe than we realize, and that scares me.

[@thomasprice7893]

>didn't practice the safety he had been taught thinkingface.emoji

[@framersmethod]

The Framers' Method can prevent an American civil war.

[@jamesschrier4780]

I’d appreciate your source material that can be sited so I can see for myself to make an educated opinion. I appreciate you taking the time to make the video. Thank you

[@Scaredycat55]

Just don't let it happen ever never again.

[@augurcybernaut4785]

This is the most ridiculous take on us politics. The only point of any substance is the ask why not prosecute him in trying to stop the certification.

[@draganjagodic4056]

Heaven forbid. Heaven forbid.

[@user-ib4ut6vy2g]

Trump will win in 2024, with help from black voters no less😂

[@augurcybernaut4785]

Hope not

[@boesbensen4397]

" wow"....?!?

[@Lili_Chen2005]

Ah yes, Americans being hysterically hyperbolic. A favorite pastime.

[@twelvestitches984]

The Western forces of Texas and California? Californians are 70% Democraps while Texans are mostly Republicans, so, there's no way they would combine forces. A new civil war would not be state against state, it would be city people against country people. City people are 70% Democraps while rural people are usually 70% Republicans. The Republicans produce almost all of the food, so, we win.

[@MrHobbesandlocke]

Once Orange Man is gone all our problems will go away. All hail Emperor Sniff Sniff

[@hoornstra8769]

👎

[@billyungen]

Probably not. I remember that John McCain was also a racist, homophobe, xenophobe, Islamophobe, misogynist; as was Mitt Romney before him, and George W. Bush before him, and Bob Dole before him, and George H. W. Bush before him, and Ronald Reagan before him. I also remember that Secretary of H.U.D Ben Carson (and world's foremost pediatric neurosurgeon), Ambassador Nikki Haley, and Richard Grenell were TOKENS, while the babbling and cackling V.P. Kamala Harris, and Mr. maternity leave Secretary Pete Buttigieg are, somehow, NOT tokens. And never forget that if any conservative, libertarian, or Republican political figure who happens to be black is "the black face of white supremacy". So when the Orange Man is no longer in the political picture, the intolerant and excluding Left will continue to shriek the same old song that they have been singing for DECADES.

[@linmal2242]

Yes, in AUS we had, despite some objections, an even greater enforcement by the leader of the country on firearms widely accepted, after a terrible gun crime that shocked the nation. The regulations were reasonably tight, compared to the USA, but now they are even stricter, and a good thing, even though I have been a shooter.

[@batman9699]

We know wich part gonna win, bets?

[@richardc861]

Democrats/left

[@ghostrider2664]

Wow the sensationalized lies in this are breathtaking. They've created some excellent theater here. Very manipulative propaganda. But that's all it is

[@garyklimitchek45]

😂 😂 conclusions are totally BS. Yes, there is chance a change is due, but not attacks as you described. Compromise is the only way to stay together. If we can’t, then a new constitutional congress needs to be held to make unity happen before we end up in chaos you described. I think we can come together to make it happen.

[@Donner906]

I'm not compromising with people who attempted insurrection.

[@garyklimitchek45]

@@Donner906 interesting that no one has been charged with insurrection. You need to keep up with facts.

[@Donner906]

@@garyklimitchek45Then what were they doing that day? Were they simply hoping to say hello to the lawmakers in the capital?

[@concernednewfie]

What is this PODCAST? Maybe a copyright strike from the movie's producers would be a good start.

[@danieldix1094]

So much of this is uninformed and untrue.

[@billymcelwain531]

Completely misleading.

[@kmankman6170]

Hey I love y'all's show but the guests are displaying a severe lack of understanding of American gun culture

[@writingref]

At the same time, its worth listening to an outsider looking in. Just because our gun culture is unique and is something to celebrate does not mean it can't be manipulated by those in power.

[@rodmarker2071]

Is this on Netflix ?

[@DarthVader20201]

Civil War not yet streaming. Is there Kirsten Dunst or Selena Gomez in the film? lol 😂

[@user-di7ek4rq7v]

This is gross and the times should be embarrassed.

[@PaulK-ve1pu]

America has long had a possibility of fascism and civil war. Most of the major issues around the first Civil War are unresolved. As a British person, my favourite author of the 20th Century, Philip Roth laid it out in chilling accuracy. I would recommend The Plot Against America for everyone interested in the subject.

[@user-vo9iy4xh2q]

Let's hope this all comes to pass. Then with any luck the UK may go the same way. Followed by a period of peace and calm for the rest of the world that has had to suffer these warmongers for so long.

[@keithswaddling2370]

I fear the UK is on a similar path, with the exception of the gun laws, there is a lot of hate and division stirring up, Brexit, immigration, foreigners overpopulating our cities, the gradual erosion of our culture, all these things and more help to spread unrest, bad feeling, and anxiety and give the most unsavoury individuals a voice and a drum to beat, the problem being too many voices and too many drums, that will never beat the same. I suspect this will happen throughout the civilised world now, and our children and grandchildren will be the ones that have to endure the worst of it.

[@Fscmco]

So a civil war, but not eating the rich? C’est la vie.

[@INDYANDY4C]

That’s hilarious! Left Austin, TX for up State NY! Down State NY leaves for TX or FL asap!

[@stephendalton1648]

Hilarious. Some overpaid academic"s friend does what?

[@RichardJOberle]

No chance of civil war

[@robinj6137]

Not sure it will happen like this but guess will side Putin will be supporting, funding probably.

[@Rtg5637]

Wrong guess that has to do with derangement.

[@HABLA_GUIRRRI]

aaaawww--- who'd have ever taken you laydees seriously if you hadn't buttoned it all down so nicely with ur laura ashley wallpaper cello?

[@briankinslow2995]

Very one sided . Left Left Left

[@r.hudsonmadeo5745]

Right? I was rather intrigued when I began listening. The first person interviewed was Center-Left, so I was anticipating a Center-Right rebuttal. Perhaps a Conservative who does NOT support Donald Trump, but what we got was racist Barbara F Walter who was able to squeeze race into America's socioeconomic divide within just a handful of sentences. I am fine with Times Radio giving a racist like Barbara F Walter a platform, but at least have the decency to allow the opposing view point an opportunity to persuade.

[@johnmorgan8868]

I ain't from America but I see through what they are all trying to do They are really trying to ruin trump I really hope he is your next president America needs it!

[@evaluateanalysis7974]

You are absolutely right, they covered Trump encouraging his supporters to overthrow democracy by storming the Capitol, but not Biden's attempt to do the same. Er, on second thoughts....

[@kenmurray4005]

Indeed, everyone is left of fascists.

[@lahy1060]

America had a civil war that lasted for four years and how it ended; so, American people knew in their hearts if a second American Civil War were to happen again, it wouldn't last for more than a couple of days at most or for just a few hours if the National Guards and the FBIs reacted quickly.

[@toddseppi1017]

You assume the national guards would blindly follow corrupt leaders.

[@lahy1060]

@@toddseppi1017 You can bank on it. The US Armed Forces obey the Constitution.

[@toddseppi1017]

@@lahy1060 Following corrupt leaders is not upholding the constitution.

[@freeheeler09]

Todd, RE following corrupt leaders, you are right about the National Guard not following someone as corrupt as Trump.

[@sandycheeks1580]

We’re going directly into this direction!

[@lexvangelder2525]

It's clear again who owns the Times and where he stands on US politics. This forgiving conciliatory attitude towards an group of radicalised and violent republicans and their leader doesn't merit the word journalism.

[@billyungen]

I believe that Charles Dickens and, before him, Lord North both beat any and every contemporary subject of His Majesty to the punch. They vociferously asserted their observations that the American rabble will never be able to govern themselves and build an independent nation. It will forever be a backwoods, undeveloped wilderness populated by opossum eating savages. Merciful heavens; they even think they can replace tea with coffee! Brutes!!! At least Britain will always have a poor excuse for a nation to look down upon. While they're eating opossums, Brutish cuisine will be famous around the world. Indeed.

[@linmal2242]

I came for the Trump but stayed for the 'civil war' (?) !!!

[@stream47]

Nope, not even close, it's a shadow of what the 1960s were like, compared to then the population now is docile. My ancestors were CSA officers in the Civil War/War Between the States, and I heard the stories from those times - and this now is nothing like that. Gets plenty of page views and clicks, though. What upsets the Democrats is the reception that Donald Trump got in Harlem and Philly...

[@nickmelis2206]

Lies full of lies

[@jaemate21]

That's why we all find it weird that some political parties are calling Americans to come "observe" our elections here in South Africa,LOL. We just can't understand how a country that went through a coup as recently as 2020 can ever have the integrity to observe our very very fair elections.

[@lexvangelder2525]

Spitting Image was right I've NEVER met a NICE south african

[@Michelle-hh5de]

The attempted coup was unsuccessful. Our elections are fair and the lies spread by Republicans doesn't change that.

[@lostpianist]

As usual I was thinking about this 10 years before everyone else.

[@lostpianist]

(over 10 years ago)

[@michaelsidwell3052]

Will 2025 turn into 1861 america

[@DarthVader20201]

Yes. Once states secede from the United States.

[@PUBGM-Santa-Claus]

Not a chance we are too addicted to Facebook and leaving single moms hearts reactions.

[@davidnewton3338]

More people go to prison 4 trump, dont think so lol

[@PUBGM-Santa-Claus]

Weak

[@DJKinney]

What is this garbage? "Schools" of fighter keys?

[@BurrQ19]

Trump and his minions cry lots.

[@dobraydien7242]

A smart person would see the illusion of choice with the parties....never a good idea to trust the career politicians behind closed doors with your future.

[@RMScott]

I moved to SE Asia in 2016 because I could smell this coming. Not only the rhetoric of the Right, but the stock piling of weapons and ammunition of acquaintances, friends and family disturbed me to the core. Trump and the GOP has destroyed everything great about the USA, the fabric of America, and if elected again, it’s over.

[@kennj321]

I'm not very empathetic about the lawfare argument. Trump is like an old pensioner that moved into a small town and every morning on his way to the bar he sideswipes every car on the way. same thing on his way home from the golfing he does it again. problem is half the town council and police are related or friends with him.

[@Brian-----]

I’m an American who also lived in Britain for years. There’s no chance of anything remotely like a civil war in America.

[@mike1117777]

Really, what a load of --------

[@blafonovision4342]

This woman is a Trump supporter.

[@bigg5582]

This article is why I don't believe the times vi's a vis the ukraine war ...total TDS

[@TheLAGopher]

TDS only exists in the minds of those who still follow him.

[@LA-kc7ev]

Times Radio follows the Democrat playbook in sewing rabid division in the US and presenting all things US from a particular slant. Of course, it informs much of European opinion to no one's benefit. This content is offensive and inflammatory and pushes a topic we should all, everywhere, work to prevent. What would the Democrats do without Jan 6th?

[@Theuglytruth1776]

She said the White House was under attack😊 Stop teasing us now it’s not nice🤷

[@lynettevanoostrum5822]

Donald Trump djd not say be there and be wild... LIAR

[@rcbrown22]

Notice Trump said "march Peacefully" to the capital.

[@shawngrinter2747]

I saw the Movie, it doesn’t end well….. And before you say they ended Slavery, they didn’t - the Constitution still says slavery is legal.

[@NateWhitehorse]

Unfortunately we have a lot of men buying military style weapons. Civilians are tired of shooting at paper targets. I served 8 years in the United States Marine Corps, I constantly see civilian men that think they are entitled to freedoms, that they never sacrificed for. These weapons and body armour makes common civilians think they are ten feet tall and bulletproof. I have even seen a pastor hold a shotgun in an Arizona church. This is America.

[@evaluateanalysis7974]

It does not. There are general statements which could be argued to support it or not, but nowhere does it literally condone slavery. Please feel free to quote a direct statement supporting slavery from the constitution if you can find one.

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

No it doesn't. Why lie?

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

No it doesn't. Why lie?

[@user-zf9jc5yz7o]

SECTOR Right battalions refused to deploy and flight as 3 thousand Ukrainian are nearly surrendering.- ! Ukrainian are take very heavy loses - as Russian fresh battalions push forward. Few Battalions have surrendered to the Russian, some have fled towards Pokrovsk leaving behind heavy equipment.

[@evaluateanalysis7974]

Проваливай, русский тролль (Get lost Russian troll.)

[@webstella]

Clown times radio

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

This is absolute dreck - this is based on a film? The film must be terrible if the premise is California and Texas both team up and succeed lol.

[@jchannell6941]

Get a life

[@viveviveka2651]

As an American, I'm not very worried about an all-out civil war, in the military sense. It's already happening on other levels, though - verbally, emotionally, psychologically, in the media, in the justice system, between the major parties, and between various other subgroups within the country. The Left has gone off the rails, and the extreme Right is bonkers as well. But I just don't see it getting to the point of a general, widespread, country-wide military confrontation. The worst was not January 6; it was the summer of Antifa riots.

[@noongar1234]

Trump 2024!❤

[@12vshady]

This is trash

[@blafonovision4342]

What kind of Chinese propaganda is this?

[@marcdenton2996]

What a foolish title. We arn’t there yet. Do you know anything about American history. Apparently not.

[@danielburger1116]

Would you like to edit your comment? Yet implies they are correct..

[@unkownnameless2699]

Maybe what we need is less racism towards white people, less sexism towards men, less dismissiveness of heterosexuals

[@marca7542]

Racism towards white people?! 🤣 ok, thanks for the laughs

[@AW-zk5qb]

@@marca7542 yup. Only race you can legally discriminate against are whites and asians and only race you can socially discriminate against openly and be cheered for is white people

[@DarthVader20201]

Too much AI being used on the internet