How America Finally Beat Hitler's Tanks - The Battle of Arracourt

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@robertlee8400
@robertlee8400 3 жыл бұрын
My great uncle died in a tank battle leading up to the (battle of the bulge) . He was the loader in the top of the turret in the tank he was in . A German tank hit the top of his tank & blew the top clean off cutting my great uncle in half , he was 21 years old at the time . My grand father was notified of his death & was not to far from were it happened so after all was said & done my grand father walked to the site to find his brothers tank & he found it , all of the body’s were already taken away . My grand father told my dad that story , & he told me along time ago . Really sad .
@mattdarchuck4057
@mattdarchuck4057 3 жыл бұрын
My father was wounded during the Battle of The Bulge. He was with the 101st. Bayonetted by a German soldier. Returned to his division when the 101st were in Germany. One of three stories my father told me.
@jameswilson2815
@jameswilson2815 3 жыл бұрын
Robert, it's men like your great uncle that have given us the freedom we enjoy today. May he rest in peace. Take care. Aloha
@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 3 жыл бұрын
my condolences to your family, my dad was in that battle he didn't like talking about his time in the war, or in the time he was in, I had to pull it out of him he passed in 2002 at the age of 80, yes he has PTSD. I'm sure he lost a few friends during that time as well.
@derrickwelsh6760
@derrickwelsh6760 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattdarchuck4057 I'd be interested to hear about his other 2 stories? Also I am wondering where exactly he was positioned during the bulge offensive and if he was with the men who were with Richard (Dick)Winters and the other guys from Band of Brothers?
@jeromebarry1741
@jeromebarry1741 3 жыл бұрын
My father wore the uniform, operating a SRI unit radio direction finder safely behind the front. The closest dad got was "hearing" combat.
@brandonchild422
@brandonchild422 3 жыл бұрын
Patton was on tanks since 1917, he founded the first Light Tank school in Bourg, France. He literally laid the foundations for US Armor doctrine, some of which is still used today. The man is considered to be a God among US Tankers.
@kriegertechpriest7011
@kriegertechpriest7011 3 жыл бұрын
What do our tankers think of Romel?
@brandonchild422
@brandonchild422 3 жыл бұрын
@@kriegertechpriest7011 Rommel is up there, damn fine tanker just on the wrong side of history.
@kriegertechpriest7011
@kriegertechpriest7011 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonchild422 Yep
@brandonchild422
@brandonchild422 3 жыл бұрын
@@kriegertechpriest7011 you can’t dismiss good leaders and skilled soldiers due to what side of history they are on.
@kriegertechpriest7011
@kriegertechpriest7011 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonchild422 you got that right, the mqn was a tactical genius! Hell, i think that Patton read Romels book! And i heard stories about tqnker hqving poster of him becuase he was a genius
@garyevans3421
@garyevans3421 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you mean that Patton wouldn’t be able to personally change out an engine or transmission on a Hellcat, I expect you would be right. He was the American pioneer in tank warfare commanding the first American tanks in combat in WW1 and training in the desert in the years between the wars. He firmly believed in the principle that once you get your enemy on the run, you don’t let up and give him a chance to regroup and have to start all over!
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Patton quote: You don't win a war by dying for your country. You win a war by letting the other son of a bitch die for his country.
@garyevans3421
@garyevans3421 3 жыл бұрын
@@dx1450 he also hated indecisiveness in junior officers. One time an officer radioed in to his headquarters about getting a howitzer jammed under a bridge, asking for instructions. He messaged back “you can blow up the gun, you can blow up the bridge or you can blow your GD brains out!”
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a Sun Tzu teaching.
@MoAndAye
@MoAndAye 3 жыл бұрын
I live here in Palm Desert, California. My house is located smack in the middle of what was the personnel barracks and administrative facilities for his desert training base, which stretched out to the north of here for miles. This was the desert tank training area that Patton secured leading up to his Africa campaign in WWII, and at the time it was the largest military base in the world and hosted the largest number of tanks.
@garyevans3421
@garyevans3421 3 жыл бұрын
@@MoAndAye I remember reading the name Indigo, Ca years ago, but that piece desert is so huge there were probably several towns in and around it!
@ahalfelven1
@ahalfelven1 3 жыл бұрын
I had one uncle in Normandy as a Sherman tank commander......when I asked him how they handled German armor, he was quick to answer: " We called in air support and let the Air Force deal with German tanks!!"'. I think his answer had more to say about how Hitler's tanks were beaten than anything in this video...and his strategy worked because he survived.
@shirghazaycowboys
@shirghazaycowboys 2 жыл бұрын
.......Sure.
@Zgreasewood
@Zgreasewood Жыл бұрын
Dad was in the Lightning Divison, said, they never saw a Tiger that was operational He was at Remagen , said 263 jets tried to bomb the bridge but were failures, first time he saw a jet. He was not impressed by any German stuff. Got a Bronze Star. He spoke Polish interviewed concentration camp victims fter the war, had about 200 photos showed me a few , family burned all when he died.
@garyheiny2820
@garyheiny2820 Жыл бұрын
The P-47 thunderbolts we’re absolutely devastating to the Germans. It would be comparable to to the A10 thunderbolt 2 going at the the Iraqi tanks . It must have been terrifying for the Germans to see the p-47 blazing down on them , probably was hell on there britches
@bman6065
@bman6065 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the old school documentary style. No awful reenactments, no dumb interviews with someone who has an opinion on Patton, no cheap CGI. Just information and footage from the time.
@olengagallardo8551
@olengagallardo8551 3 жыл бұрын
Patton knew nothing about tanks? The man was a tank pioneer!
@johnbrown8570
@johnbrown8570 3 жыл бұрын
He was a cavalry officer who never crewed a tank.
@jackt6112
@jackt6112 3 жыл бұрын
"Patton knew as little about tanks as anyone I ever knew" By Colonel Bruce Clark. I'm not sure what he meant by that. At the French Army's tank training school at Champlieu he drove a Renault FT light tank. The only US soldier with tank-driving experience, Patton personally backed seven of the tanks off the train. In the post, Patton trained tank crews to operate in support of infantry. He visited the Renault factory to observe the tanks being manufactured. Patton saw action in World War I as part of the new United States Tank Corps of the American Expeditionary Forces: he commanded the U.S. tank school in France, then led tanks into combat and was wounded near the end of the war. In the interwar period, Patton became a central figure in the development of the army's armored warfare doctrine, serving in numerous staff positions throughout the country. At the American entry into World War II, he commanded the 2nd Armored Division. I would say that he didn't do well in North Africa. He outdid Montgomery by the time he got to Sicily by a lot with his unconventional and unexpected attacks even though Patton had a much harder road to hoe. The only thing I could think of is perhaps Patton might not have known how to do the maintenance or do the job of a loader, or gunner, or loader. He certainly knew how to command and drive one.
@JohnDoe-ox5ni
@JohnDoe-ox5ni 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackt6112 well said .You are right .It would be interesting to hear Mark feltons view on it.
@robertlassiter907
@robertlassiter907 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackt6112 Damn well said!
@user-mp3eq6ir5b
@user-mp3eq6ir5b 3 жыл бұрын
Patton was a Brilliant Armored Calvary Strategist, but he regularly outran his Supply Line. Tanks don't run when they're out if fuel. I think this is what was meant.
@jameswilson2815
@jameswilson2815 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Patton didn't know the mechanical aspects of the tank, but he sure knew how to use them and knew what his men could do!
@ericleonardi4811
@ericleonardi4811 3 жыл бұрын
Don't assume. A bloated self promoting uber soldier who had only ounce taken a shrapnel wound to the ass. He had very limited idea of how any of this worked.
@oldgysgt
@oldgysgt 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericleonardi4811; Patton was one of the most successful commander of tank forces in WWII. You remember WWII, that was the war that was being fought before you grandfather was born. As for being "self promoting", it's a poor dog that doesn't wag his own tail.
@jeffreyflathers5
@jeffreyflathers5 3 жыл бұрын
Patton was so great that a later U.S. tank was actually named for him!
@ericleonardi4811
@ericleonardi4811 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldgysgt my grandfather fought in the great war about the same time george patton recieved his only grazing wound. In memoir bernard Montgomery remarked that men do not show courage as they kill. They show courage when they may be killed. Having been shot thrice thru the lungs at paschendal Montgomery understand quite and sad call to arms.
@simonhumby323
@simonhumby323 3 жыл бұрын
He certainly could move fast when the going was easy.
@whydahell3816
@whydahell3816 3 жыл бұрын
This channel has amazing variety. Its obvious how much hard work is invested in the content. Thank you Dark team.
@randallturner9094
@randallturner9094 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously? This is the most inaccurate summary of a military operation I’ve ever watched.
@bighulkingwar_machine1123
@bighulkingwar_machine1123 3 жыл бұрын
@@randallturner9094there's always some douche that can do better...
@GHOSTOFONYX10
@GHOSTOFONYX10 3 жыл бұрын
@@bighulkingwar_machine1123 No this is just straight up misinformation and you're eating it up like a moron
@crosbonit
@crosbonit 3 жыл бұрын
@@GHOSTOFONYX10 Provide a link to your video about this in which you do better. If you're incapable, then at least be specific about what the problems are.
@adub1300
@adub1300 3 жыл бұрын
Be nice if they got basic shit right like the fact that Eisenhower wasn’t president during the war 😂
@MW-bi1pi
@MW-bi1pi 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad was in the 35th Tank Battalion, CCA of the 4th Armored Division. The statement that General Patton had no technical knowledge of Tanks is ludicrous. Patton Commanded the first US Tank Battalion in WWI. And the Germans only feared Patton as a Tank Corps leader. Interestingly, Gen Patton himself said that the BEST US Tank Commander was the 4th Armored Division Commander Major General 'Tiger' Jack Wood. Patton said at the time that Tiger Jack "Out Pattoned Patton". Eisenhower was not President in the War... And Arracourt was NOT a draw, the Krauts got their asses kicked
@leonedralev3776
@leonedralev3776 3 жыл бұрын
Gen. Clark probably held a grudge against Patton.
@-mike--m-9629
@-mike--m-9629 3 жыл бұрын
Well said Touche' 👍
@GeorgiaBoy1961
@GeorgiaBoy1961 3 жыл бұрын
@ MW: Re: "The statement that General Patton had no technical knowledge of Tanks is ludicrous. " Maybe not... Patton was born in 1885, and was not reared from infancy around mechanical things. He came from money; the Pattons were wealthy. Since the well-off often hire others to repair things for them, it does not follow from Patton's upbringing that he would have understood how mechanical things work. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. He would have been exposed to "military engineering" at West Point and in the various service schools, but how much of that was directly applicable, we can only speculate in the absence of a specific source showing precisely what his curriculum contained. Considering that tanks, motorized vehicles and aircraft were yet to be invented or still very new at the time (he graduated West Point in 1909), it is probably safe to conclude Patton's specific training in them was minimal at best. Patton was a cavalryman. In fact, he designed the last standard issue cavalry saber issued to U.S. cavalry forces, the model of 1916. "Technical knowledge" is somewhat generic. Patton was an acknowledged expert in the use and employment of tanks and armored fighting vehicles in land warfare. During the Second World War, the German high-command (Oberkommando der Wehrmacht) considered him without peer as a fighting general among the combined Anglo-American general staff. He was also highly-knowledgeable in the logistics of how to support armor and mechanized operations; he would have had to be to plan and conduct the kind of operations he undertook during the war. However, it is exceedingly unlikely that Patton knew tanks down at the level of a mechanical engineer or for that matter, a skilled mechanic or tank sergeant. Patton would have known the tanks of the Great War, since he was intimately involved in their use and employment as a relatively junior officer, but by the time of WWII, he'd have been so senior that his days of doing that sort of thing would have been long-over. General officers, even ones as unusual as Patton, don't grab wrenches and change their treads or remove the engine for an overhaul; there are enlisted men for that. Patton also did not have the background, by which I mean his academic training at West Point, to understand modern metallurgy, the ballistics of high-velocity tank guns, and other somewhat esoteric fields he'd have had to know in order to be considered an expert about any of the tanks his forces used. I'm sure he did a creditable job learning as much as he could, but he wasn't a technician or engineer. That wasn't his job, anyway. There were plenty of other highly-qualified people to handle that stuff, anyway, civilian and military alike. It is germane to note that the circumstances under which the United States entered the war and then began to participate in it greatly shaped how American specialists thought about tanks and tank warfare. Our experience in the war differed a great deal from those of Britain and the Soviet Union, our two major allies against Germany. For one thing, we didn't have the war being fought on our own soil, at least not in CONUS, whereas the Russians fought Germany on their home soil. Britain had experience fighting the Germans and Italians in North Africa since 1940, hence a more-realistic and up-to-date appreciation of enemy capabilities. The gunnery-armor arms race there with the Germans was very real, just as the same was true of the Eastern Front. American armor warfare "experts" however, including a lot of highly-ranked men with lots of gold braid and stars on their uniforms and caps, often had no practical experience whatsoever in armored warfare, and of those that did like Patton, their knowledge was decades-old. Patton did a much better job keeping up with developments in armored warfare than most of his peers; he sought out and read works by Basil Liddell Hart and many of German's best generals including Rommel. However, those works concerned themselves with tactics, operations and strategy, not the nuts-and-bolts of how to fix or up-armor a tank. Guys like General Leslie McNair, the Army ground forces commander for much of the war, held positions of immense responsibility but were handicapped greatly by their relative ignorance of how the war was being fought a half-a-world away. Worse yet, in McNair's case, he was arrogant and unwilling to listen to opinions which differed from his own, and was dismissive of subordinates and others with practical combat experience relevant to his decisions. McNair did many things well. He was agifted administrator and did many good and unheralded things for the army - but he really wasn't qualified remotely to be placed in charge of armored forces and how they were organized and equipped. Operations in North Africa, Sicily, and Italy did much to disabuse the army's senior leadership of its myopia, but what really did it was the June 1944 Invasion of Normandy. Ironically, McNair was killed shortly thereafter, in July 1944, when 8th Air Force bombs fell short of their target and hit his observation position, killing him and a number of other officers and men. Men like Patton were experts in how to use tanks in large-scale combat operations. In Patton's case, his background in the cavalry was perfect training for it, since tanks were "the new cavalry." But high-ranking general officers are not always the best sources for detailed knowledge on tanks. Which is why I think the U.S. Army was very smart when it was designing the M-1 Abrams series back in the 1970s to have a bunch of combat-experienced tank sergeants and other armor NCOs participate in the design process. Those are the guys who are really going to know the nitty-gritty. Your EMs, your NCOs, and some of the junior officers. The guys at the tip of the spear.
@randallturner9094
@randallturner9094 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 fine but.. the comment was imbecilic. It gives enough of a wrong impression I’d suspect dishonesty. Coupled with the deluge of errors and half-truths in this video, I’d say there’s no doubt this video’s author isn’t interested in giving us an accurate picture.. he’s got an agenda.
@petetimbrell3527
@petetimbrell3527 3 жыл бұрын
@@randallturner9094 Lol. No QAnon "agenda" here, surely. Just another video seeking view numbers. And comments. Notice the T34-85 brewing up in the vid? Not many of those in France, but I guess it gives the necessary impression of the generic horror of war.
@benjaminroberson1967
@benjaminroberson1967 3 жыл бұрын
My great grandpa was an officer in one of the artillery units, the 191 Field Artillery Battalion Battery C to be exact. His unit was, at one point, all that stood in the way of a column of Panthers from overrunning the headquarters. Their 155mm howitzer were covering the 4th Armored Division to the North when the Germans were spotted to the East. As my great grandpa gave the instructions, to turn 90 degrees and load charge 1(the absolute least amount of power possible), the men really rushed to follow the instructions. Later the observer said that he could watch the shells pass at a lower elevation than himself, between a small saddle, on their way to the Panthers. They got a direct hit on the lead tank in the first few volleys which halted the column.
@olgriz485
@olgriz485 3 жыл бұрын
I've read about that battle. Nailed many German tanks cresting the hill. That 90⁰ turn put the German side armor facing the Americans. Like crossing the T in naval battles..
@counciousstream
@counciousstream 3 жыл бұрын
It is interesting how people tend to see WW2 battles as tanks slugging it out battle after battle. The American Army used artillery more extensively and intensively than any other during WW2 including the Russians. When American units would make contact with the enemy they would call in devastating artillery fire. I don't know the exact stats but a majority of German armor fell to the 105's and 155's. Well supplied, well trained and well coordinated Arty was an unsung hero.
@PHXPlanespotter
@PHXPlanespotter 3 жыл бұрын
And general Patton wrote the book on tank warfare that they still use today so to say he doesn't know anything about tanking it's kind of odd
@3366bob1
@3366bob1 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if the video included maps of where all this happened/ showed the maneuvers instead of showing stock ww2 footage
@mmclaurin8035
@mmclaurin8035 3 жыл бұрын
Then watch another KZbin channel about it. This guy does short and sweet quick videos that hit the broad points.
@kinocorner976
@kinocorner976 3 жыл бұрын
Not everyone knows how to animate that, and the cost to hire someone isn’t cheap. If you want something like that, and not random stock footage watch Mark Felton.
@randommadness1021
@randommadness1021 3 жыл бұрын
@@kinocorner976 as much as I agree with you, I think that the relatively new channel "the operations room" would be much better. If you don't know that channel, but watch this qnd Mark Felton, then you will enjoy that channel mate. It has mostly maps with little silhouettes of whatever Tank, plane, truck etc... and shows you where they were from an ariel view. The first night of the planes crossing over the Iraq border is incredible. It's amazing that the amount of planes that crossed that border in the first second and third night. How they managed to coordinate it all, especially with the different armies from different countries managed to do so well and achieved almost all of their objectives. That country took an equivalent of someone who has never threw a punch in their life go a full 12 rounds with Mike Tyson followed by the same with Prince Nassim then a further 12 rounds this time with Mohammed Ali!! If you haven't seen it, I can say with a good certainty you will be impressed if you go watch it. The operations room it's called. Click on any of their videos then click on the name of the channel once it has loaded up whichever video you have clicked on then click on "all videos" (i think the tab is called, if not I'm sure you will figure it out) then look for the Gulf War and find the first night of the planes crossing the border and I guarantee you will be impressed. There's also the first, second (no third yet) night of the ground assault which is all tank on Tank battles which also includes the longest ever distance a tank has taken out another tank from in history. Again, impressive stuff. Been waiting ages for night 3 of the ground assault 😁 the channel is going to be huge.
@herewasbob7650
@herewasbob7650 3 жыл бұрын
Don't like it? Don't watch it /s or go make your own video. /s I'm joking. I just hate people people say crap like that as if we're not allowed to give constructive criticism. LOL I said that before reading replies and some POS actually told you to watch another channel good lord. @M McLaurin80 I'm referring to you when I say POS.
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 3 жыл бұрын
That's kind of expensive and requires a totally different skillset.
@Magnum_Ding
@Magnum_Ding 3 жыл бұрын
I find it strange that they said that patton knew nothing of tanks, but he practicaly commanded the first tank unit the US had.
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 3 жыл бұрын
The episode just quoted General Bruce Clark. Can't you pay attention?
@c.j.1089
@c.j.1089 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, exactly what I was about to say. He basically invented and perfected tank combat for the US. I'm not sure what Gen. Clark was referring to specifically, maybe it was the technical aspects of the new tanks they were fielding? It's also important to remember Patton was not particularly liked by many of his peers, specifically those from traditional combat techniques.
@c.j.1089
@c.j.1089 3 жыл бұрын
@@nedludd7622 you're being pedantic, the purpose of the question is just as valid.
@kevinbrady6075
@kevinbrady6075 3 жыл бұрын
@@nedludd7622 We did,you didn't.Patton knew nothing about tanks?Ok,..
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 3 жыл бұрын
@@c.j.1089 There are several clowns here that say dumb things like "They said.." when it was a quote from one person who has nothing to do with the producer of the report. If you said something so untrue in a college or even high school report you would be scored way down. People just try to affirm their "cleverness" by posting ridiculous opinions not based on anything.
@Roller_Ghoster
@Roller_Ghoster 3 жыл бұрын
This is the fastest narration on KZbin.
@hindugoat2302
@hindugoat2302 3 жыл бұрын
he is on speed its hard to hear him
@karlmuller3690
@karlmuller3690 3 жыл бұрын
Roller Ghoster - Only for the slow minded.
@Roller_Ghoster
@Roller_Ghoster 3 жыл бұрын
@@karlmuller3690 I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and sh1t out a smarter statement than that.
@karlmuller3690
@karlmuller3690 3 жыл бұрын
@@Roller_Ghoster - To quote four English Gentlemen of yesteryear, "yeah, yeah, yeah". To quote me, I can eat nails, and shit bullets, so go sit on a Cactus, knucklehead!!
@tkthegk_1394
@tkthegk_1394 3 жыл бұрын
Eh its fine
@thegunslinger1363
@thegunslinger1363 3 жыл бұрын
Those fellas sure had balls of steel.
@codmeterman
@codmeterman 3 жыл бұрын
They clanked when they walked for certain.
@jamesmays6826
@jamesmays6826 3 жыл бұрын
Paton knew more that you think about mobile attacks from what I have found he was the 1st person to put a machine gun on a vehicle and used it on a attacks vehicle during the American Spanish war
@miguellopez3392
@miguellopez3392 3 жыл бұрын
Even Roman's had chariots with mounted mechanical bows, not exactly a new concept in the military.
@yan_4523
@yan_4523 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguellopez3392 a "mechanical bow" is not the same as a machine gun on a vehicle
@conorclark7408
@conorclark7408 3 жыл бұрын
@@yan_4523 same concept comparative to the technology they had at the time.
@Cowboycomando54
@Cowboycomando54 3 жыл бұрын
He also pioneered the adoption of calvary tactics in to tank warfare with the FT Renault in WW1.
@miguellopez3392
@miguellopez3392 3 жыл бұрын
@@yan_4523 mounted range weapon on a mobile chassis, sound better?
@mawas6801
@mawas6801 3 жыл бұрын
"Patton knew little about tanks as anybody I ever knew", I doubt that's true, Patton was the first one to lead tank warfare in WW1 as a young Lt, later on, he was the one emphasizing the importance of Armored corps in the US Army.
@krashd
@krashd 3 жыл бұрын
No, he wasn't, the Brits were.
@mawas6801
@mawas6801 3 жыл бұрын
​@@krashd he probably knew more than you and me.
@uhhi6693
@uhhi6693 3 жыл бұрын
​@@krashd he means that patton was the only American emphasizing the importance of Armored corps in the US Army. the brits arent in the us army.
@iangrantham8300
@iangrantham8300 3 жыл бұрын
INCORRECT The Brtih were the first ones in WW1 in Sept of 1916// The USA didnt even turn up until a year later in 1917 and didnt even enter into combat until October that year when they went into the treches in Nancy. WW1 ENDED in Nov 1918! and PATTON only led a tank attack in SEPTEMBER 1918!
@paratrooper7340
@paratrooper7340 3 жыл бұрын
Funny but I've read over and over that Gen Patton was one of the greatest tank commanders of the war and certainly the greatest American Tank Commander bar none.
@craenor
@craenor Жыл бұрын
I'd rationalize this as a difference between tactical and strategic planning. Tactically, Patton's tank experience was outdated. Strategically, his knowledge and experience were superb.
@feels9027
@feels9027 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get this man to upload these as podcasts on other stuff cause even without a video he does it really detailed
@dominickpiccirillo3714
@dominickpiccirillo3714 3 жыл бұрын
Just to put into perspective, those tanks we lost in those battles may have been equal to the ones of the enemies, but for every tank that got destroyed we could produce 5 more of those while the Germans couldn't hold the economic power to do so because they were being invaded on both sides.
@derin111
@derin111 3 жыл бұрын
Who is the “we” here? Implies it had something to do with you?
@jonnym4670
@jonnym4670 3 жыл бұрын
@@derin111 Government of the people, by the people,for the people. so yea we
@partygrove5321
@partygrove5321 3 жыл бұрын
Also since we were advancing, we could recover and repair or at least cannibalized our knocked out tanks
@derin111
@derin111 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnym4670 Ok, allow me to educate you. "We" is a first person plural pronoun; its singular form being "I". Thus, using it in this context implies that subject matter relates to you personally (in the plural form). Yet, it doesn't. Since neither you nor probably any living American (possibly a tiny number left) has anything to do with the Allied victory in WW2, let alone specifically tanks, it is disingenuous of you to claim any ownership of it by using first person plural pronouns. Your reference to Government makes no sense whatsoever but in any event neither you nor any other America today was part of that Government and nor did you even vote for it. Using "we" is disrespectful to the legacy and sacrifices of your forefathers. A form of 'Stolen Valour'. Stop trying to bask in the reflected glory of the achievements and suffering of your ancestors. It is shameful and disrespectful.
@richardmanginelli2624
@richardmanginelli2624 3 жыл бұрын
Which is why FDR held out as ling as possibke before getting involved
@pestonbanza1956
@pestonbanza1956 3 жыл бұрын
You asked your followers a week ago if your audio speed should be changed and 86% of people said it was perfect. With that said, why do I feel like I'm listening to an auction right now
@stewiegriffin88
@stewiegriffin88 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only confused one lol
@raul0ca
@raul0ca 3 жыл бұрын
Chipmunks!
@daleslover2771
@daleslover2771 3 жыл бұрын
@@raul0ca 🤣🤣🤣Haaaaaaaaa
@misterjag
@misterjag 3 жыл бұрын
He generally has a breathless, conspiratorial tone.
@4DIVID7
@4DIVID7 3 жыл бұрын
you can always drop the speed
@stephenjennings7303
@stephenjennings7303 3 жыл бұрын
"AnD ThIs Is WhY GeRmAn ArMoR WaS SuPeRiOr In EvErY Wa" *transmission brakes and gets blown to hell by an M18*
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Any tank is vulnerable within a certain range. A M8 Sherman with HVAP at close range could pen a Tiger’s front plate.
@todiathink8864
@todiathink8864 3 жыл бұрын
Th ed transmission on the Tiger had a life expectancy of 500 miles. The final drive was subject to shear anytime. The trigger mechanism was faulty on both the tiger AND the Panther. Ten percent of the Tigers and Panthers broke before they got to the battle. They were over engineered and had weak drivetrains. Mark Felton Productions.
@pncrmpz1851
@pncrmpz1851 3 жыл бұрын
Why was the narrator reading as if there's an SS officer holding a Luger on his temple?
@RubyFox_YT
@RubyFox_YT 3 жыл бұрын
because speaking quickly helps the video be quick
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 3 жыл бұрын
I like it!!!!
@litebkt
@litebkt 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t follow it. Slow down!
@budg8522
@budg8522 3 жыл бұрын
ah yes…the artificial digital voice….one of the less illustrious technical advancements of our age….on the other hand you can speed it up to tobacco auctioneer speed for some real grins!
@paulmrod2595
@paulmrod2595 3 жыл бұрын
"Zign zee papers! Read zee script!!"
@richpontone1
@richpontone1 Жыл бұрын
When encountering German tanks, the Allies either called in strikes using 155mm artillery or fighter bomber strikes using bombs, machine guns and air to surface missiles or both. And tank destroyers from concealed positions. Worked every time.
@russellmiller6609
@russellmiller6609 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Dark Docs series short but very imformative.I learn something everytime I watch one
@tootone
@tootone 3 жыл бұрын
I like all of the "dark" channels. I like this guy's style, and he clearly is a solid researcher!
@colliswilliams8992
@colliswilliams8992 3 жыл бұрын
Tanks for making this documentary!
@TranscendianIntendor
@TranscendianIntendor 3 жыл бұрын
Eventually my father crossed the Siegfried line as an infantryman with the 63rd Division. The Generals that commanded the 63rd were some excellent leaders and the way the soldiers appear to have been treated was humane. It seems to me my father was given time to adjust to combat. I like so many others of my post war generation have little true idea of what our fathers went through. "I shot at people, sure, but I didn't stick around to see what happened after that." Is what he said. You can guess the question. How he lost the teeth he lost was never really explained to my satisfaction or hard biscuits were really as hard as rocks. Eisenhower had to consider that he needed every man he could get when facing further war in the Pacific. He didn't know that we had the atomic bomb anymore than did Truman. That is what explained his allowing of the Russians to capture Berlin first. He said that he had expected to die during the anticipated invasion of Japan crediting my existence to the atom bomb.
@TheLAGopher
@TheLAGopher 3 жыл бұрын
Eisenhower forbid Patton from taking Berlin because FDR (over Churchill's objections) had agreed that Berlin, East Germany, and Eastern Europe would fall within the Soviet zone of influence. Ike knew that the Nazis would put up fanatical resistance to losing their capital and reasoned why take Berlin at a high cost when the US would have to hand half of it over to the Russians? Tens of thousands of US troops would be killed to stroke Patton's ego.
@TranscendianIntendor
@TranscendianIntendor 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLAGopher I still think the greater motivation for Eisenhower was to save his armies for the invasion of Japan. He did not know the US had the Atomic Bomb, nor what it would do, or could do. Japanese brutality shocked Americans. It became war without quarter in the Pacific. After American soldiers found Nazi concentration camps their treatment of German soldiers was affected. Americans had been idealistic and considered themselves savior knights. Discovering that their enemies were scientifically savages and that passionless violence was all that was left to them as a response to the threat of a world dominated by murderers changed their hearts. What God could there be? Fighting up through North Africa and then Sicily and Italy and then France and Germany who did Audy Murphy become? Who did JD Salinger become?
@jamesharris5009
@jamesharris5009 3 жыл бұрын
It was FDR who gave in to Stalin's request that the Russians be the first to enter Berlin. At that time the German strategy was to hold off the Russians in the East and surrender to the Allies in the west. They knew what would happen to them if they were captured by the Red Army, and fought bitterly in Berlin. The Russians took 100,000 casualties in that battle.
@greybone777
@greybone777 3 жыл бұрын
It was FDR who made sure Stalin existed in the first place.
@TheLAGopher
@TheLAGopher 3 жыл бұрын
@@greybone777 Stalin became the ruler of the USSR in 1925, nearly 8 years before FDR became President.
@FanOWater
@FanOWater 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. A map or two would be a nice addition to help get a sense of where in the country you are discussing. Cheers
@misterjag
@misterjag 3 жыл бұрын
In March of 1918, Patton was the only U.S. soldier who knew how to drive a tank. He personally oversaw the logistics of the tanks in their first combat use by U.S. forces, and reconnoitered the target area for their first attack himself. Patton commanded American-crewed Renault FT tanks at the Battle of Saint-Mihiel, leading the tanks from the front for much of their attack...
@BrotherLuke2008
@BrotherLuke2008 3 жыл бұрын
Slightly less rushed narration! Thankyou
@donnash5813
@donnash5813 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Hard to understand his machine gun bursts of words.
@Ender3Me
@Ender3Me 3 жыл бұрын
It's fine. You just need to listen better. You are focusing on the"pictures" more than the words. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@elliottbrown1329
@elliottbrown1329 3 жыл бұрын
You can speed up or slow down any KZbin video. Just go to Settings/playback speed
@diggingattycho7908
@diggingattycho7908 3 жыл бұрын
Patten knew nothing about tanks? You guys need to do better research. You can start with his Desert Training Center.
@veecee6786
@veecee6786 3 жыл бұрын
You Magnificent Bastard, he read the Book!
@CHONDLERGBONG
@CHONDLERGBONG 3 жыл бұрын
"As far as Patton's expertise go, I'm not sure if they meant from an engineering standpoint or a tactics standpoint. Apparently Patton made a number of requests to make modifications to the tanks that other officers might of found dumb. That could be where the quote stems from and is kind of out of context in this video." -Largogaming said it as good as I could. I remember reading this as well. He had some odd ideas that did not sit well with his other officers.
@chrisdaigle5410
@chrisdaigle5410 3 жыл бұрын
That's the same comment I came here to make. Patton beat the Germans in tank battles in Africa before coming to Southern France.
@whispofwords2590
@whispofwords2590 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisdaigle5410 aa stated before, the video likely meant from a mechanical and engineering standpoint as opposed to a strategic/tactical one.
@ramal5708
@ramal5708 3 жыл бұрын
Patton requested the Army Bureau to upgrade the Sherman tank guns to 76mm gun and requests a heavy tank like M26 Pershing or TD like the M36 Slugger with 90mm guns to counter German tanks which at the time the Bureau still runs on Tank Destroyers doctrine, that changed in 1945
@cavemanballistics6338
@cavemanballistics6338 3 жыл бұрын
What a joke. Patton started and trained the first US tank battalion after ww1.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
Patton did not know a tank from a sink.
@ramal5708
@ramal5708 3 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred Says an Armchair tactician and keyboard warrior
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
@@ramal5708 why do you think we mowed Patton down? Ran him over like a mad dog in the street!
@uhhi6693
@uhhi6693 3 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred when did we do that?
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
@@uhhi6693 right after the war ended. Patton was killed in a road "accident". His staff car was struck by an army truck.
@rondecambio7375
@rondecambio7375 3 жыл бұрын
Patton was called 'Blood and Guts' or as his men would say 'Our Blood ,his guts'
@jwhite146
@jwhite146 3 жыл бұрын
loved the videos of tanks firing as artillery. Had family who was in M4 in WW2 and said the thing they feared was trucks as they showed up the tanks knew they would be firing as artillery
@johnchen9930
@johnchen9930 3 жыл бұрын
5 inch rockets from a Piper plane knocked out 6 German tanks, Wow, what an ace. My dad's cousin (my uncle) flew P-47 with 14th Air Force Composite units, he told me about those rockets rip open tank's top and concrete bunkers like can openers. So did the 155 mm Howitzer and Long Tom, a direct hit on the tank top will rip them open, Tigers included.
@somaday2595
@somaday2595 3 жыл бұрын
M9 bazookas firing 60mm M6A3 HEAT rockets
@TheAfterPein
@TheAfterPein 3 жыл бұрын
Patton helped develop America's tank program by being with French units in WWI. Patton knew plenty about armored warfare and great leadership skills. To say he didn't know tanks is a gross misrepresentation of his involvement in early American armored warfare development.
@miguellopez3392
@miguellopez3392 3 жыл бұрын
Tanks in WW2 where far different then tanks in WW1 in terms of capabilitie and task of the tank. Ironically France fell because they didn't prepare for new generation of German tanks using blitzkrieg tactics they didn't understand and lost very quickly because of it, so what makes Patton qualified for WW2 tanks?
@TheAfterPein
@TheAfterPein 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguellopez3392 Just because the French didn't anticipate the Germans to go around the Maginot line (which is short-sighted, granted, though not irrational as the other bordering nation was neutral) in their planning does not negate the success of the American military in fighting in the European theater. That would be like calling Japan's surrender after a nuclear attack they didn't expect coming as a key part of the axis powers losing the war.
@miguellopez3392
@miguellopez3392 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAfterPein they didn't expect them because they thought armored vehicles couldn't do it efficiently, tanks have change and so did the tactics they employed, it's like comparing a musket to a rifle, being a minute faster makes all the difference in tactics.
@TheAfterPein
@TheAfterPein 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguellopez3392 How does one nation's idea of future warfare and how they prepared for it negate the success and achievement of a general from a different nation's army? Patton did not work with the French military after the conclusion after WWI. That was the only time he worked closely with them and in combined units during the genesis of tanks being used in combat. Patton studied German tactics after WWI and grasped the idea of moving quick to keep the enemy on the back foot, not giving time to rest if possible. The Germans during WWII said they knew he was key to any plans to invade Europe and respected him above every other allied commander. Erwin Rommel had even said that Patton was a fantastic commander and astonishing in mobile warfare. If those didn't make him qualified for commanding armored units during WWII, nothing would.
@miguellopez3392
@miguellopez3392 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAfterPein because you use it to credit his qualification. Germans didn't know much about Patton during the war, he was qualified by relevant experience not useful experience. he very likely learned more about tank warfare as WW2 went on and applied these tactics with major success at the battle of the bulge but I would count that as a learning experience and not knowledge he had before the war.
@SuppliceVI
@SuppliceVI 3 жыл бұрын
"I dont know what it is. I just know the sound it makes when it takes a tiger crew's life" - Big Dick Patton, probably
@hurdygurdyman1905
@hurdygurdyman1905 3 жыл бұрын
His name wasn't Richard, it was George.
@Candiedbacon75
@Candiedbacon75 3 жыл бұрын
@@hurdygurdyman1905 I think you missed it by a long shot.
@hurdygurdyman1905
@hurdygurdyman1905 3 жыл бұрын
@@Candiedbacon75 I think you did. It was a joke.
@kevintate768
@kevintate768 3 жыл бұрын
Great channel and awesome contact. The only thing you need to change is how fast you speak. Your channel and dr Felton are awesome.
@dudley5658
@dudley5658 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t need a commander that knew a lot about tanks. They needed and had a commander who could motivate and direct those that did know about the tanks. And that’s what they had.
@MH-fb5kr
@MH-fb5kr 3 жыл бұрын
Piper Cub took out 6 German tanks with rockets... has to be a one time thing... bravo👍
@1PickJesus
@1PickJesus 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I heard that too! I thought this was the answer to the title! I could imagine the kick from the Bazooka would send it into orbit!
@zuselben
@zuselben 3 жыл бұрын
@@1PickJesus There is no "kick" from a bazooka. The back blast would only be an instant slight forward push.
@Geissenpeter253
@Geissenpeter253 3 жыл бұрын
setting this to .75 speed was a solid decision
@mrfrogg46able
@mrfrogg46able 3 жыл бұрын
you're right
@daviddrezner4331
@daviddrezner4331 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Damn!
@donflugencio7272
@donflugencio7272 3 жыл бұрын
This guy says Patton wasn’t an expert in tank warfare, Patton learned all he could about tank design, operation and repair
@82ndAbnVet
@82ndAbnVet 3 жыл бұрын
He said he didn't know tanks in the technical sense. I suppose he was referring to repairing them and servicing them, which would be fair. What General knows how to pull an engine and rebuild it. Tactically, Patton knew his shit and knew it better than anyone else.
@Cowboycomando54
@Cowboycomando54 3 жыл бұрын
@@82ndAbnVet Not to mention that the Narrator was using a quote, and had listed the source prior to using it.
@lelandthomosoniii4743
@lelandthomosoniii4743 2 жыл бұрын
Piper Cub observation plane took out six top-of-the-line tanks we need a movie on that
@DiplexHeated
@DiplexHeated 3 жыл бұрын
Slow it down please!
@walk_spin_glide
@walk_spin_glide 3 жыл бұрын
Yooooo
@bellator11
@bellator11 3 жыл бұрын
Arracourt is a perfect example of how it doesn't matter how much better your equipment is if your tactical planning is piss poor. The German armoured attack was initiated without any reconnaissance, and drove head long into a valley surrounded by hills on three sides. It was a shooting gallery for Allied tanks, artillery and air power, and it's frankly remarkable that any of the German tanks escaped it, let alone that they managed to give back some hurt, something that can only really be attributed to their tanks in general being better armed & armoured. Had the situation been reversed I doubt a single Allied tank would've been left standing.
@Doosteroni
@Doosteroni 3 жыл бұрын
“If it wasn’t for president Dwight D. Eisenhower” 8:42
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 3 жыл бұрын
To me, Eisenhower was a weakling.
@rider7488
@rider7488 3 жыл бұрын
This narration is spot on. It is the best war history films I’ve ever watched hands down. Premium quality!
@hurdygurdyman1905
@hurdygurdyman1905 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Mark Felton. And he doesn't mess up details in narration and film that Dark Docs sometimes does.
@TheStonedEvo
@TheStonedEvo 3 жыл бұрын
@@hurdygurdyman1905 nobody’s perfect
@TheStonedEvo
@TheStonedEvo 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out Kings & Generals
@rider7488
@rider7488 3 жыл бұрын
@@hurdygurdyman1905 thanks will check it out
@rider7488
@rider7488 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheStonedEvo thanks will check it out
@jasonhughes1674
@jasonhughes1674 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the content of this channel but always feel exhausted by the end 🙂
@JH-ks9oi
@JH-ks9oi 3 жыл бұрын
Patton didn't know the first thing about tanks? Besides being "1917" the first officer assigned to the new U.S. Tank Corps. Patton also led America's first tank units into battle Patton first committee writing the manual on tank operations The first General to win a American victory against Nazi-led in "African" Battle of El Guettar March 1943 The first official "American" military action using motor vehicles "1916" and victory defeated the Villa Gang "since I've noticed the snide condescending remarks about the types of weaponry onboard my fact of statement is enough" The man was a officer not a mechanic but to say he didn't know is insulting! It's his vision of having a mechanized unit that directly lead to it is memorable! Patton didn't know huh? Erwin Rommel would disagree
@c.j.1089
@c.j.1089 3 жыл бұрын
I have to question one of the facts mentioned in the video. It's stated that the Germans lost approx 130 tanks, and the US lost about the same. Except, from my knowledge the US lost something like 30 tanks, and the Germans lost 200? Am I missing something? Also I believe Bazooka Charlie was credited with two Tiger I kills by ground forces.
@komrade_kam
@komrade_kam 3 жыл бұрын
From my research, the numbers I have found were: CCA, 4th Armored Division Losses: 25 Medium Tanks, 7 Tank Destroyers/Self-Propelled Guns Destroyed. 5th Panzer Army Losses: 86 Tank and Self-Propelled Guns Destroyed, 144 Tank and Self-Propelled Guns Crippled or Damaged. Lieutenant Colonel Carpenter was credited with: 2 Tiger tank kills, 2 Panther tank kills, 2 Unnamed tank kills - presumably either StuG or Panzer 4s.
@randallturner9094
@randallturner9094 3 жыл бұрын
@@komrade_kam That’s Zaloga’s casualty figure. Are you associated with this video? This thing is crap. Arracourt was the most one-sided thumping of a German armor force ever. By a regimental combat team, not a full division as we’re led to believe. From start to finish.. the Germans weren’t retreating because of Anvil, they were scurrying like cockroaches trying to keep advancing 3rd Army units from cutting them off. Hitler attacked Patton because he didn’t know Ike was going to cut off his fuel, they had to do something to keep him from walking into unoccupied West Wall defenses. The 4th Armored wasn’t even sure this was a planned counterattack, they crushed it so quickly and thoroughly they thought it might have just been local forces. On and on, my God this presentation is just terrible. I’m going to go watch a few more of these.
@modest_spice6083
@modest_spice6083 3 жыл бұрын
@@komrade_kam That is so lopsided. I now wonder why Wehraboos purposely ignore that tank battle.
@somaday2595
@somaday2595 3 жыл бұрын
@@komrade_kam Maj Carpenter was credited with either four tank kills (incl one Mk VI) plus an armored car or two tank kills (incl one Mk VI) plus armored cars, depending upon the source, during three flights while firing at least 16 bazooka rockets. At the end of his Army career, Lt Col Carpenter was officially credited two Mk VIs plus four other tank kills.
@hb9145
@hb9145 3 жыл бұрын
@@randallturner9094 Please stop this jingoism. The American had full air superiority, preventing the Germans any organized advance, and causing unusually high casualties in the initial attack. The Germans suffered huge casualties from the air. This was not a tank vs tank battle, but a tank vs aircraft and tank battle.
@stanleytolle416
@stanleytolle416 3 жыл бұрын
To many of the film shorts were not of the Bulge battle. This battle was in bitter cold snowy conditions. Most of the film shorts in this video shows summer fighting.
@lukeangelus3386
@lukeangelus3386 3 жыл бұрын
Battle of Arracourt was in September, 1944
@joec4251
@joec4251 3 жыл бұрын
"Patton didn't know much about tanks", you got to be kidding right? He was THE pivotal figure in development of the army's armored warfare doctrine...he was THE greatest tactician of armor use in WWII, even the Nazi's knew this...and feared him greatly
@smarty6329
@smarty6329 3 жыл бұрын
HE WAS JUST A SHOW PONY
@common_moss8998
@common_moss8998 3 жыл бұрын
1. He had no say on American Tank Doctrine or the Design of American Tanks 2. Most German Generals Didn't even know who he was. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mH_NoZJqn75rprs
@johnscanlon7757
@johnscanlon7757 3 жыл бұрын
Rommel was the best tactician the US still teaches his methods
@common_moss8998
@common_moss8998 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnscanlon7757 Bro be quiet jesus christ why is their so many wheraboos in here lmao
@simonhumby323
@simonhumby323 3 жыл бұрын
Patton was mostly hype. He had the 'let's go!' attitude but that's all he had. Hard to think of a single example of any actual tactical talent.
@mikedoss9777
@mikedoss9777 3 жыл бұрын
In the words of Al Swearengen “You got a stagecoach to catch? Slow tf down!”
@skingolem4456
@skingolem4456 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure this has been said. But his voice sounds like the American accent that Damian Lewis used in BoB.
@Cowboycomando54
@Cowboycomando54 3 жыл бұрын
Guess a lot of folks in this comments section have selective hearing. 4:33 The Narrator is referring to a quote by subordinate officer, not actively saying that Patton was ignorant when it comes to tanks.
@boblindner5808
@boblindner5808 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few channels I have to put on .75 speed. The highly caffeinated narration is interesting but delivered at warp speed.
@thatalaskaguy
@thatalaskaguy 3 жыл бұрын
I just tried that and thought he sounded high. I much prefer the narration the way it is.
@TheYeti308
@TheYeti308 3 жыл бұрын
Nice program, keep em coming. ! TY.
@mlb5525
@mlb5525 3 жыл бұрын
The word discombobulated comes to mind when watching this video.
@robvanwyck3063
@robvanwyck3063 3 жыл бұрын
And that's generous!
@Panicscroll69
@Panicscroll69 3 жыл бұрын
Love the content! Keep it up guys!
@johnallen7098
@johnallen7098 3 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video and your speaking is perfect, never stop making these, my favorite thing to watch after a long day
@matthewcasey5059
@matthewcasey5059 3 жыл бұрын
That doesn’t even make sense about Patton. He wrote the book on tank tactics during the interwar years and was the only American soldier to realize what use a tank would become in WW1.
@randallturner9094
@randallturner9094 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing in this video’s accurate. Except Bazooka piper.
@EllieMaes-Grandad
@EllieMaes-Grandad 3 жыл бұрын
. . . . and in WW2 as well . . .
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
Heinz Guderian wrote the book on tanks.
@garrysekelli6776
@garrysekelli6776 3 жыл бұрын
Agincourt is My favorite battle. Henry iv.
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@Btester2
@Btester2 3 жыл бұрын
Henry V
@garrysekelli6776
@garrysekelli6776 3 жыл бұрын
@@Btester2 yes if u get all technical and stuff. But his father was Henry iv and the enemy king was Charles vi sokindof hard to remember off the top.
@garrysekelli6776
@garrysekelli6776 3 жыл бұрын
@@Btester2 what i want to know without googeling is what bättle sir Henry Percy was killed in. Im sure it was against either Henry iv or v.
@sinisterthoughts2896
@sinisterthoughts2896 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong Henry...
@gaijinfishing
@gaijinfishing 3 жыл бұрын
06:36 The most amazing story in this IMO. Dude flying a Piper Cub, shooting bazookas and actually destroying tanks. Had to check wikipedia and sure enough. "After destroying his fifth enemy tank, Carpenter told a Stars and Stripes correspondent that the "word must be getting around to watch out for Cubs with bazookas on them. Every time I show up now they shoot with everything they have. They never used to bother Cubs. Bazookas must be bothering them a bit."[8][9]"
@DaMatchstick
@DaMatchstick 3 жыл бұрын
there have been several vids by channels like The Front and i think Mark Felton
@alphaomega3766
@alphaomega3766 3 жыл бұрын
These Dark Docs are highly illuminating.
@retepeyahaled2961
@retepeyahaled2961 3 жыл бұрын
Can anybody swith subtitles on? Speech is some kind of mumbling and veeery speedy. So 85 % of the listeners find the speaking speed "acceptable"? "Inacceptable" would be that people wouldn't understand a word... This is the first channel I know that had to ask this question, that says a lot. I wonder why such an excelent channel as this one cannot provide subtitles
@jonvelde5730
@jonvelde5730 3 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking I´m going to hear the narrator shout ¨Sold!¨
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 3 жыл бұрын
I love the pace.
@HILBILEE
@HILBILEE 3 жыл бұрын
I saw your comment before listening and thought what's he talking about? then I couldn't keep from cracking up the entire video.
@buzzmeanytime
@buzzmeanytime 3 жыл бұрын
Jon velde why? Is his voice from somewhere?
@ZepG
@ZepG 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched the Barrett Jackson auto auction and now I feel like I'm watching it again lol.
@GTX1123
@GTX1123 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best stories to ever come out of the ETO regarding the fearsome Tiger Tank's vulnerability was when a tin-can M8 Greyhound took out a mighty Tiger I with its dinky little 37mm pea shooter in St. Vith Belgium. The M8 scored three direct hits at point blank range into the Tiger's rear end where its armor plate was thinnest. As usual, the Tiger's turret traverse rate was taking all day to rotate for a shot when BOOM - David knocked out Goliath LOL.
@Oh_Hale_Nah
@Oh_Hale_Nah 2 жыл бұрын
Probably didn't happen according to unit positions, but still an interesting story, something similar happened in Normandy, a tanker in the Irish Guard rammed his 75 sherman into a tiger ii, both Crews bailed but the Irish later got into a firefly and yeeted the King Tiger
@GTX1123
@GTX1123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oh_Hale_Nah According to U.S. military records; "this action was reported to Major Donald P Boyer Jr, S3, 38th Armored Infantry Battalion, by Captain S. H. Anstey (Commanding Company A 38th Armored Infantry Battalion) who witnessed the engagement" so this was not the M8 crew who reported it, which lends more credibility to the story. The first question is how could the M8's 37mm penetrate the Tiger's rear armor, even at point blank range? On paper, absolutely not, but who knows? There was an M3 unit in N Africa that allegedly killed a Tiger I and insisted it was not a Panzer Mark IV. On the other hand, it's possible that Cpt. Anstey mistook a Panzer Mark IV for a Tiger I. According to German reports there weren't any tanks in that area but it could have been one that had some engine problems and got separated from its unit. There's a common misconception that German tanks were more reliable than American tanks. German tanks had more moving parts than American tanks and the Tigers were notorious for a lot of mechanical problems. It is conceivable that even a more reliable Panther IV had some mechanical issues and ended up getting separated from its unit. We'll never know.
@theduck1972
@theduck1972 2 жыл бұрын
Among the problems mentioned, was the fact many units lacked AAA assets to protect them either on the move or in assembly areas... The minute the weather cleared, ducks in a barrel.
@billystewartsr
@billystewartsr 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but Patton still covered more ground held by Germany than any general in warfare. check it.
@minsapint8007
@minsapint8007 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt that. What about Zhukov commanding Operation Bagration which started in June 1944? I statistic which I heard about Bagration was that, if the Western allies had covered the same distance as Zhukov, they would have advanced from Normandy to Berlin.
@minsapint8007
@minsapint8007 3 жыл бұрын
Montgomery went from Egypt to Berlin against the Germans. That is further than Patton going from Tunisia to Berlin.
@themikew7
@themikew7 Жыл бұрын
Excellent content - thank you for sharing. The narration is a bit fast, would aid comprehension to slow it down a bit. Thanks!
@kmcgovern2012
@kmcgovern2012 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew there were so many T-34s and SU-100s in france 🙄
@ster6222
@ster6222 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha! So true! 🤣 I wanted to check the ‘Comments’ section before mentioning it myself.
@joeperez3520
@joeperez3520 3 жыл бұрын
And at least one KV.
@alecfromminnenowhere2089
@alecfromminnenowhere2089 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. I was thinking that if you used maps, even sparingly, it would make it so much easier and then faster for us to view. I have to stop and look up the cities and towns where the battles took place. Thanks for all you do.
@H8TED247
@H8TED247 3 жыл бұрын
Love this... Amazing 👏
@michaelcampin1464
@michaelcampin1464 3 жыл бұрын
Someone forgot about the British and Commonwealth troops on D Day and German Records. American Tank crew call all German Tanks Tigers which weren't even there.
@nickdanger3802
@nickdanger3802 3 жыл бұрын
Arracourt was months after D Day and a Pz IV looked like a Tiger I and was almost as lethal and difficult to destroy from the front as a Tiger I. Where were British and the Commonwealth tanks made?
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
There were no British forces in the battle of Arracourt. It was the US 4th armored division period. There wasn't a limey within 100 miles of the fight.
@uhhi6693
@uhhi6693 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickdanger3802 Pz IV's looked similar yeah, but were hardly any better than the sherman was; and the Americans only operated tanks in groups of five anyway *Edit- wrote groups of ten instead of groups of five.
@nickdanger3802
@nickdanger3802 3 жыл бұрын
@@uhhi6693 The Panzergranate 39, the KwK 40 L/43 could penetrate 77 mm (3.03 in) of steel armor at a range of 1,830 m (6,000 ft). Wackipedia As I understand it the effective thickness of the M4 front armor was about 3 inchs. About the same as a T34, but for some reason this is only a huge deal when discussing the T34. Noombers Germany had way more infantry than tanks and US equipped forces had a much higher ratio of armor to infantry (It was easier to ship armor than infantry, 260 M4's per Liberty ship). The M4 with the 75 was better against infantry. Germany needed something that was better against armor. From about mid 1942 Germany was producing Tank Destroyers (in the same way M4's with the 76mm were TD's) instead of tanks for use against infantry. PzIV with HV 75mm, Panther with a higher velocity 75mm and Tiger with a version of the 88. As I understand it.
@uhhi6693
@uhhi6693 3 жыл бұрын
​@@nickdanger3802 In a scenario like the one you're describing, I'm hesitant to say would result in a penetrating hit, given that the Sherman's armor, when sloped as it is, comes in at around 4 inches. Although at the same time I doubt that a pz4 would be interested in engaging at almost 2km, where it's unlikely to do more than warn it's target of it's presence
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 3 жыл бұрын
In 1944, "Eisenhower" was a general, NOT a president.
@michaeltischuk7972
@michaeltischuk7972 3 жыл бұрын
"Esenhower" was a politician, not a general. Patton was a general, not a politician.
@justonemori
@justonemori 3 жыл бұрын
I like how after retirement Ike preferred to be called General and not Prez...
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 3 жыл бұрын
@@justonemori Ike was just the person the US needed after the War . . . calm, steady, and competent.
@olgriz485
@olgriz485 3 жыл бұрын
He used his President title out of respect as all Presidents are called. No need to get bent over it.
@olgriz485
@olgriz485 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltischuk7972 Bullcrap. He was a West Point Graduate.
@peterhoward492
@peterhoward492 3 жыл бұрын
I like the quick narration
@theodoros9428
@theodoros9428 3 жыл бұрын
Manteuffel the lion of Zitomir After the war in 60's went to Hollywood as war movies advisor
@Blazefork
@Blazefork 3 жыл бұрын
Patton won the war in Europe quicker than any other commander the allies could field..a genius
@baker607102
@baker607102 3 жыл бұрын
Patton "wion " the war? you're having a laugh
@Blazefork
@Blazefork 3 жыл бұрын
@@baker607102 ?
@krashd
@krashd 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blazefork You were being delusional and Matthew picked up on it.
@hifinsword
@hifinsword 3 жыл бұрын
I hope Major Bazooka Charlie Carpenter got designated as an "ACE" of some sort for killing at least 5 tanks.
@brentdoolin4791
@brentdoolin4791 3 жыл бұрын
Has the author never heard that Gen. Hasso von Manteuffel commanded the Panzer Division Grossdeutschland while in Russia which sounds like he was qualified to lead a corps command and the 5th Panzer Army to me. The latter command also achieved the deepest penetration of the Allied lines during the Battle of the Bulge.
@stephenjennings7303
@stephenjennings7303 3 жыл бұрын
Ooohh..yeah the battle of the buldge ended with all 100% of german armor being whiped out...idk if thats the example i would use...im just saying
@magicmaybach
@magicmaybach 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenjennings7303 Wiped out my ass, try out of fuel, ammo and supplies as well as having no air support! Whilst they did have limited fuel and supplies at the start, and allied air cover was grounded, they actually kicked the shit out of the US troops and armour.. We all know you guys think the US won the war single- handed, but consider yourselves fortunate that most of Germany's armour and best infantry divisions were destroyed on the eastern front, we in the West only ever faced the remnants...
@stephenjennings7303
@stephenjennings7303 3 жыл бұрын
@@magicmaybach lol the lend lease act alone puts on paper how the united states both supplied and financed the entire allied powers🤣🤣🤣 whos mane customer was u guessed it...russia The battle of the buldge saw multiplearge The initial German attack force consisted of more than 200,000 men, around 1,000 tanks and assault guns (including the new 70-ton Tiger II tanks) and 1,900 artillery pieces, supported by 2,000 aircraft, the latter including some Messerschmitt Me 262 jets. In the opening phases of the battle, they would be facing only some 80,000 men, less than 250 pieces of armor and about 400 artillery guns. Many of the American troops were inexperienced; the German force included battle-hardened veterans of the tough fighting on the Eastern Front, but they, too, had green units filled with boys and with men who normally would have been considered too old for military service. During the course of the month-long battle, some 500,000 German, 600,000 American and 55,000 British troops became involved. The Germans lost some 100,000 men killed, wounded and missing, 700 tanks and 1,600 aircraft, losses they could not replace. Allied losses-the majority of them incurred during the first week-included 90,000 men, 300 tanks and 300 aircraft, but they could make up these losses. In addition, an estimated 3,000 civilians died, some during the fighting and others executed by German combat and security forces......like i said germany got their asses handed to them
@Grimoor
@Grimoor 3 жыл бұрын
at 8:45 he say's president Dwight David Eisenhower, maybe a slip? sorry 8:40
@71esf
@71esf 3 жыл бұрын
On the whole a good video, but at roughly 8:44 the narrator says President Dwight D Eisenhower halted the advance to Berlin, yet Ike wasn't President until the early 1950s! He was the Commander of the Western Allies at the time and that FDR would have ordered him (following the Yalta conference) to let the Soviets to take the prize of Berlin.
@SF-ku2hp
@SF-ku2hp 3 жыл бұрын
The bazooka pilot is an interesting read
@patrickkelly8095
@patrickkelly8095 3 жыл бұрын
Patton didn't know the technical aspect of the tanks but he was an old cavalry commander and knew hwo to move the new armored cavalry of tanks.
@fdmackey3666
@fdmackey3666 3 жыл бұрын
Niels Hectors don't that just make one scratch one's head and wonder "What the hell?". General Patton MUST have had some kind of clue when it came to deployment and usage for units under his command to have been as successful as they were. My Uncle George, who served under General Patton as a TD driver, gunner, and Platoon Sergeant from Ft. Knox to Europe, considered him the best of the best.
@cfcnotbummerful
@cfcnotbummerful 3 жыл бұрын
00:15,,, May I ask if there is any evedence to suggest were any other countries fighting the Germans in France in 1944, or were the Americans waging a solitary campagine, as you appear to be infering ?
@komrade_kam
@komrade_kam 3 жыл бұрын
If anything we were more eager to take Tokyo rather than Berlin.
@antonyberry1632
@antonyberry1632 3 жыл бұрын
Typical yanks don't mention anyone else
@hurdygurdyman1905
@hurdygurdyman1905 3 жыл бұрын
@@antonyberry1632 Typical non-Yank. Wants credit for a battle which only involved Yanks.
@hurdygurdyman1905
@hurdygurdyman1905 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe rewatch the video, which is specifically about a U.S.-German battle and its context. And in a fun bit of irony based on ypur lack of attention in school years ago, it was YOU who "infered" this, not Dark Docs.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
The British and Canadians were jerking around trying to take Caen. For all the ground they made they might as well not have been there. It was an issue of some contention at the time.
@PETER-rt6zt
@PETER-rt6zt 3 жыл бұрын
I think if the narrator could ease off on the coffee ,or speed , whichever, then Dark Docs would be so much more enjoyable. !
@azralong7629
@azralong7629 3 жыл бұрын
I realy like your channel...but the naration is very speedy...try to make it smooth & little bit slower..👍👍👍
@lonny3344
@lonny3344 3 жыл бұрын
I once heard that one Tiger tank could take on ten Sherman's but the problem was the American's always showed up with eleven.
@davidsike734
@davidsike734 3 жыл бұрын
Only if they all came from the front, I watched on KZbin where a 37MM Amphibious vehicle (Greyhound) stopped a Tiger II by shooting from behind into the engine compartment.
@martyzielinski1442
@martyzielinski1442 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidsike734 -I believe he had to put four or five slugs into THE SAME HOLE before the Tiger could swing his 88 around...
@davidsike734
@davidsike734 3 жыл бұрын
@@martyzielinski1442 Unless both vehicles stayed perfectly still (which is doubtful) it would be nearly impossible to put 4-5 shots in the same hole. I would imagine it took 4-5 shots to silence the engine.
@martyzielinski1442
@martyzielinski1442 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidsike734 As I heard the story, the Tiger crossed right in front of the 37mm in a narrow street. The 37 pulled right behind as the Tiger tried to traverse its turret.
@thenevadadesertrat2713
@thenevadadesertrat2713 3 жыл бұрын
Number 11 did not have a crew.
@stevetucker5532
@stevetucker5532 3 жыл бұрын
My grandpa was a tank commander under patton.my grandpa said he would never served under anybody but patton because he was the best planer for tank battles and he would be right with his men in the battle
@bamxire8845
@bamxire8845 3 жыл бұрын
This speed of narration is perfect... For people in Ireland, luckily I'm Irish so continue on sir... lol : )
@karlmuller3690
@karlmuller3690 3 жыл бұрын
BaMxIRE - I'm an Australian, and it's just fine for me too. What I don't understand is, all the complaining in the Comments about it. It's either people with English as a 2nd language, or Americans. I find that Americans, generally, speak at a slower, more deliberate pace than say, We Australians or certainly you Irish do!!
@akopowerletsplay3884
@akopowerletsplay3884 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKi9Y4yViriekKs
@Sneemaster
@Sneemaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@karlmuller3690 It's not the speed of talking that is annoying, it's that he sounds breathless all the time. He should slow down to simply catch his breath. This video at least sounds better than previous ones.
@karlmuller3690
@karlmuller3690 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sneemaster - Do you think that some "Native English Speakers", I.E- people that have English as a first language, and by that, I mean Americans in particular, (no offence intended, Americans!) have a bit of trouble, not so much with the speed of his delivery, but that, combined with his accent tends to confuse, or lead them astray between what they've heard, and what they think they've heard? I think I've heard him say, or remember him saying once that he's from Belgium, but to my own earn, he sounded quite "South African", as in, White South African. Maybe it's that he's a native Flemish speaker, I.E- a speaker of the Begian variant of the Dutch language, so this is what some may have the two fold problem with, but I don't know, just a guess!! P.S : - I an Australian, and just because my "Avatar" has a "German, or German sounding name", it bears NO RESEMBLACE whatsoever to my real life name, so some times people make the mistake of thinking I AM GERMAN, YOU MUST BE ... or ... BUT SURELY, YOU'RE GERMAN, THOUGH?. Even German speakers have addressed me in German, I suppose in a effort to lampoon an English speaking person, in the thread but, "just between we ... "Germans", wink, wink!! English speakers do it to, I'm sure, in threads that are overwhealmingly in another language, just to ... "Other" the rest of the thread, or to do the same thing as the German speakers who "assume" I'm German, to ... "Have a joke at anothers expence", and to "keep it in the Club", so to speak!!
@FerretJohn
@FerretJohn 3 жыл бұрын
As one German tanker once said: One German Panzer is worth 10 American Sherman's, unfortunately the Americans always have 11. The Panzer and Tigers were powerful but overpowered and overengineered, when they broke down it could take weeks for a specialist unit to repair them, while the Sherman's with their much more basic design could be up and running again in just a couple hours with a half-decent mechanic. And of course without fuel a tank is just a big metal box sitting on the road, once Germany lost Northern Africa it was just a matter of time before their tanks and planes started running out of gas.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
The Middle East was not a major oil producer until the mid 1960s. The resource had been discovered a few decades earlier but there wasn't large scale extraction going on.
@FerretJohn
@FerretJohn 3 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred however it was there, far closer to Germany than any other producer, and with far more than Germany itself could produce. Japan was in an even worse position, islands had next to nothing, they needed mainland China and Korea or they were screwed.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
@@FerretJohn actually the Russian oil fields were closer. They're still closer.
@FerretJohn
@FerretJohn 3 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred Problem with that was it was the RUSSIAN oil fields, and Stalin was.... not in the mood to share. Regardless of what oil-fields were where though it was an established fact that fuel shortage was a major issue as the war progressed. Germany was not an oil producer and as the Nazi's were forced to retreat they lost their fuel recourses.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
@@FerretJohn early on Joe supplied the Germans. But it was never enough so the Germans did try to take the fields for themselves. Actually they did take them but not before they were wrecked.
@daviddanforth9070
@daviddanforth9070 3 жыл бұрын
The pace of the commentary left me out of breath.
@daviddrezner4331
@daviddrezner4331 3 жыл бұрын
Patton saved our butts in the battle of the Bulge. He was a great tank commander. Unfortunately, by 1944 he was politically isolated and disliked by Eisenhower and Command. Clarke seems to know tank fighting tactics too. So..he was named. The Germans feared Patton. He was key in the invasion of France.
@jla8718
@jla8718 3 жыл бұрын
Been watching since the start of Dark 5
@Jake_m0331
@Jake_m0331 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@TheWhiteDeath13
@TheWhiteDeath13 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@cdamauser1963
@cdamauser1963 3 жыл бұрын
good commentary. Thanks.
@model-man7802
@model-man7802 3 жыл бұрын
Who made this script??Patton was the go to man for tanks all the way back to WW1!!
@williamwinstrop3918
@williamwinstrop3918 3 жыл бұрын
Patton can be the "go to man for tanks" The other two can be "Two world war one veterans who specialized in tank warfare" I hope this isn't a concept you'll find hard to grasp.
@model-man7802
@model-man7802 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamwinstrop3918 Exactly.
@thomasaquinas2600
@thomasaquinas2600 3 жыл бұрын
We never really mastered tank vs. tank, as our tanks were not up to Tiger-standards until the M26. What we did do was deploy far more M4's than they had tanks, supply bazookas to squad strength formation, develop ground attack with advanced Hawker models, etc. Rommel predicted all this from his experience in North Africa. Actually, the biggest way we defeated the panzer corps was thru our proxy, the Soviets. They mass produced the best tank of the war(considering cost), the T34-85. It had many shortcomings, but we took some examples to our tank proving grounds and radically improved radio and ergonomic features in that tank.
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