How are people still saying that Smolder is weak? 😕

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[@Nemesis_lol]

My updated Smolder thoughts: - Champion is OP, no doubt about it, way too easy to get to 225 stacks and become super OP. He's way too tanky for an ADC with range & mobility, reminds me of Zeri with Trinity Force & Hydra - He's better solo lane than ADC, simply because on botlane, it's easier to get lane bullied/frozen on/dove than any other lane. He's a weak laner and a standard bot combo will make Smolder stack way later - In current state, I would no doubt first pick him in Pro Play and triple flex him - A lot of reasons why he is not performing well in soloq is people going wrong builds, runes and are playing him inefficiently with stacking and trading - Trinity Force always better than Essence Reaver. Shojin second NO MATTER WHAT. Liandry good if you lack AP damage else you buy Navori. Buying Defensive items after 2 or 3 damage items VERY GOOD. Rapidfire lategame decent. - ALWAYS FLEET, NEVER COMET. Reasoning: Fleet has too good synergy and the rune has too much value, the precision tree also better since you can easily play sorcery tree in secondary. Comet might feel good in early game but the rune will drop off way too quick - Straight up Q max in most matchups because you want Q CD lower, so you stack more. Putting 3 points in W is not very necessary, especially on sololane. ALWAYS E MAX SECOND for CD Enjoy your ELO.

[@darkjimmy8045]

TY!

[@barindersingh8537]

gg elo hack

[@dariolatorre2108]

But don’t you think that you are playing on a lower mmr than your actual rank?

[@Nemesis_lol]

@@dariolatorre2108 Played Smolder in Challenger too and it worked just fine.

[@itsDemaru]

You're the GOAT

[@barindersingh8537]

When nemesis said "it's nemesin' time" and nemesi'd all over the screen I almost started crying

[@donaldf9055]

😂 y'all are unhinged istg

[@repliesoffcuzimright1679]

neme-seed

[@math8461]

Not sure why he doesn't call his followers Nemesons. Very appropriate for someone like Nemedaddy.

[@yumei5058]

I think a big problem with smolder bot is that supports will often take cs for their support item which also makes it a lot harder to stack

[@TH-dg2mm]

That's why you play Smolder bot with ap/poke mages who get their sup item stacks off hitting enemy champions. Smolder + Comet Lux/Xerath/Velkoz/Brand + Comet Absolutely OP as hell laning phase.

[@SalmanAli-hn2kt]

@@TH-dg2mm that doesn't work anymore because all supports can get it from minions and from poke

[@js-zy2uc]

@@SalmanAli-hn2kt they can still only focus on collecting gold through hitting champions, they're not forced to farm cs lol

[@TH-dg2mm]

You can get it from both, but if you poke enough you won't need to get any from minions. I think if you are playing a poke sup the only creep you should be taking is siege minion, to secure the gold 100%, rest of your sup item should come from poke. @@SalmanAli-hn2kt

[@JanDarkyy]

​@TH-dg2mm u are assuming ur xerath /lux etc supp will do what u want lol, they always take spme minions

[@egrolol6620]

6:55 That was ekko ult, it bugs sometimes and appears anywhere on the map.

[@DailyWorkoutEnjoyer]

6:20 God tier pyke gameplay

[@wiljagerhardt1219]

yea sexy pyke R

[@kharismanando9051]

prolly because he is so good that he always criticize others mistake then?

[@Munchkkinz]

its the league classic, high skilled/insanely toxic combo 🤣@@kharismanando9051

[@wiljagerhardt1219]

@@kharismanando9051 100%

[@yumei5058]

1:09 Do you always go double hp runes or does it depend on the matchup?

[@Nemesis_lol]

always

[@Knicks176]

Just wanted to let you know that I thought it was so inspirational when you said “sometimes you league the legends, but other times its the legends that league you”

[@robertphiliplara1983]

I'm just about to search a video to watch and he uploaded at good timing lol

[@MOCK3RY]

Nemesis tell the mouse story

[@ciriousjoker]

6:20 noome gonna talk about that sick pyke ult?

[@twigz3214]

I’ll miss goredrinker but yeah think the item changes have overall been positive. Small amounts of Omnivamp feel nice in junglers who lack sustain in their kits and there’s no real option for vamp outside of ravenous hydra which kinda sucks on most juglers, mostly because it gives life steal and no longer applies on abilities (which granted is fair, wave clear was probably annoying to deal with in lane).

[@petertash8061]

@Nemesis_lol do you think build shojin first could be a good idea?cause i noticed that when i build caulfield s Warhammer first instead phage i can stack easier in early game, for the extra ad and ability haste.

[@TheBanana202]

Triforce feels way better first item. Just buy sheen and ionion boots for cdr. Shojin as first item has 0 damage compared to triforce.

[@takubear88]

Every time I see Smolder I miss Cassio passive stacking more and more.

[@salvationsc4803]

I presume you don't play a lot of top lane, but what lane do you think he is the best in? I could see a lot of mid lane matchups being pretty rough for him, at least in the top lane you usually have the range advantage.

[@illinoia8357]

How do I deal with mages like orianna or syndra on smolder where it's hard to fully push getting poked out of lane?

[@dpalmer38]

Would conquerer be kinda good for late game on this champ? Or even grasp? Since he has to play off cd’s so much and jump in and out of fights but still autoing/casting to keep up the procs

[@zenuchiha7363]

This champ doesn’t need damage i think fleet is best for kiting + sustain and smolder wants precision tree

[@yumei5058]

I love watching you play smolder!

[@SticksDemonitium]

7:46 what is better?

[@Eipiczumby]

How's Manamune on him? I expected the item to be core part of his build but as times progress the item's pickrate has dropped on him. Also, would you approve of Eclipse Smolder as a defensive item?

[@joe-zt9yf]

Smolder is so fun and insanely strong honestly, also feel like enemies don't really monitor his stacks so first fight once you get 225 stacks is usually insta win as people don't realise your spike.

[@TheBanana202]

Thoughts on the changes this patch? Seems like Q max is hard nerfed because of how weak W is at rank 1 now. Is W 3 points now a neccessity?

[@ahmedalsaadi2652]

How do you get 10 stacks/min on smolder?

[@xtmysiren]

Day I have no idea since when smolder released I'm waiting for people to use hail of blades on smolder

[@izaakwedgwood9153]

To answer the question of the title, because they saw Nemesis' first smolder game

[@blinkmaxim]

Hi nemesis! Have you played sejin into riftmaker into liandry's into rfc? Pekin woof said it's one of the strongest (by strongest i mean not bad) builds on our little dragon

[@Nemesis_lol]

Don't like that build as much as my current one

[@McChickenJOI]

pekin woof is not a top tier player exactly

[@MikuSoda]

I've been printing elo thanks to you, and you are right NO ONE BUILDS HIM CORRECTLY, its free LP guys I swear

[@399Igor]

how do I get his font in game?

[@Agent_Alpha]

I never had so much fun with a new champion before, i have been playing Smolder in URF after getting so fucking bored of Ranked (just got decayed back to D1 because i played so much URF i forgot to play ranked lol) and having the best time i've ever had in this game. I really like playing Ezreal so i tried Smolder since they're both Casters ADC, and discovered a new hobby lol. Just played against a Malzahar and i got 225 stacks in 10 mins because of his voidlings lmao, it's omega fun

[@nintendoking138]

That was a "No." after my heart.

[@rafayetrasti6191]

Ok I'll admit this champ isn't "dogsht" but i do think he's not broken.

[@Light-qi8ol]

that is insanely quick stacking. the typical smolders i see dont stack before 25-30min.

[@aguadeuwu]

fr, low elo people cant get 10 cs/min and perma trade without dying. The champ is for sure op but i think low diamond and below its just a coinflip to have it on your team unless you get a free stacking matchup

[@MrMarbles0Xecution]

most smolders are playing in botlane

[@karthus9609]

ive been playing a lot of smolder recently (thankyou for the help) thoughts on going barrier/ghost/cleanse in place of tp? i feel like barrier is good synergy with your ult against assasins etc

[@TheBanana202]

Tp is way better into assassins and essential in high elo.

[@karthus9609]

@@TheBanana202 i was grandmaster 500 lp last season (doesnt mean that im good but yeah) and i feel like smolder really doesnt need tp that often, he has insane waveclear and comes back to lane fast with e, but then im not actually high elo (chall etc) so it probably is different there, i feel like ghost/barrier are really good on him but it is true that teleport is always good and usefull against good players

[@TheBanana202]

@@karthus9609 I think neme answered before on stream that ghost has great synergy with smolder but TP is needed to stabilize laning phase or something similar. Statistically it has the same winrate though as TP, so it should definitely be viable. I think nemesis generally just loves TP and is also extremely good at using it optimally.

[@karthus9609]

@@TheBanana202 okay, thankyou brother i dont really watch streams so i didnt know that he said that/loves tp so much, makes sense

[@TheBanana202]

@@karthus9609 no problem! You got any thoughts on the W changes this patch? I feel like 1 point W is so weak now that you are almost forced to put 3 points into it, but i’’m not sure yet.

[@kaydenvortex1984]

Full tank Smolder is being slept on, imagine mundo lvl of beef but with perma elder dragon once you get 225 stacks. Shit is so fucking overpowered its nuts

[@moytta122]

i think the reason somlder has higher win rate bot is because of early level W spam which is more effective bot since you have two people you can hit and if you hit both it does a ton of damage, that means smolder bot has a great laning phase but you get less stacks, smolder mid, however, has a average laning phase but scales a lot faster and since winning lane is a big thing in solo queue it inflates his bot winrate

[@nfzeta128]

From the time smolder came out I thought shojin would be great on him but it took people way too long to start building it, never mind seeing it as core.

[@yungshpock]

Same 1 royalty free song

[@djesus3692]

year of the dragon elo boost

[@fleeper20]

17:40=225 stacks, that's a scaling champ btw...

[@soulofaiden8149]

I see him as an ad veigar a little. The thing is many people don't get to the point where he is op. I think that's why he has a low win rate. I can't see any other reason.

[@Archygoo]

Is Trinity really the best choice compared to ER? Trinity costs a lot of gold, like 500 more gold than ER from what I remember, and that really makes you get your damage much slower.

[@John-sd5li]

I think important thing make Smolder strong is after 225 stack, he can secure a lot of kills and scale so fast =))

[@Ikari1212]

It is a lot harder to stack botlane because supports use their stacks to refuse yours. It's the principle I think. xD

[@Chordeva]

The problem I have with playing smolder mid it's either my own team bans him when I pre-pick him with words "you're not playing this dogshit champ" or going through pick phase and saying "oh great another smolder" and trolling the game, flashing on spot, taking minions, intentionally feeding etc

[@StoneDeceiver]

try getting out of bronze and u wont have that problem

[@jdmd3247]

I unironically thought he was going to play dota 2. Could’ve been top tier content

[@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719]

Everytime I watch your gameplay part of me cries over the fact that you're not in LEC anymore.

[@thomasb5307]

Idk since Smolder release I keep having him in ennemy team and he is nuking everything when mid/late arrives unless he fucked up his early. One of those instances of "i don't understand how he can have such a bad WR"

[@drbrofessor7956]

This Build better than essence reaver into navori?

[@bauti137]

yes in mid, adc You can go both builds

[@Tartcake]

Imagine having Elder on your team minute 15

[@gamefreak0413]

Pyke, Karthus, Smolder = Tripple execute comp lmfao

[@W3rfy373]

"No" 😐

[@ivegotavandetta]

This title man. I swear. Even playing him bot. He can't solo early but if you have an engage support it's super nice

[@s0kka492]

i have a suggestion, can you record your webcame at a higher quality? because its annoying to watch pixeled video when you zoom on your camera

[@KOTOBOD]

Why nobody builds hydra and muramana? Hydra 1st gives potential to kill whole weave with w q. Gives spellwamp, cdr and a lot of team fight dmg. Single tear removes mana problems, while upgraded tear gives biggest dmg amp possible (Yes i know smolder wants to get trinity/spear to become useful asap but you still won't be champion until 20 min...)

[@StoneDeceiver]

hydra does not have spellvamp and does not apply on abiltiies anymore

[@kareem199928]

Smolder already has enough scaling, you don’t need muramana. That’s just overkill.

[@NovaGN]

Nemesis should play Heroes of the Storm sometime

[@dumdumboys9863]

dat k6 my sweet lord, so bad

[@jmb47kkamikaze80]

I don't know man Trinity doesn't feel like you deal damage with it . I felt the same when playing Ezreal with old Trinity building essence reaver felt better in terms of damage . Even look at some of your q's look like they deal less damage than essence reaver. but sure the hp is good but if you don't get hit you don't need it right🗿

[@gregrussell1787]

Thank god I don't need to unmute people like pike "for content". Smolder is insane you just have to stack. It was funny how they kept sending stacks to your lane. Even when you died you got a wave or two worth of stacks on those ganks.

[@MOCK3RY]

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[@NopeFFx]

in botlane you can get punished soo easy on smolder, I mean I dont play that champ I only know playing against it and every time I did I was carrying the game, so I dont think he's a good adc pick but on midlane Ive seen him popping off quite often, that hurts a lot xD

[@Magie-ug4jm]

I prefered game a lot more with mythics than nowdays. Tanks and lich bane are too broken...

[@BadassOtaku]

I mean being able to survive and CS almost perfectly (and thus stack) despite a terrible early game is why Neme finds the champ easy lmao. The whole reason ppl were going W poke first was because they couldn't survive the early meta champs otherwise. Pekin is a consistently Chall and he can't lane + CS like that, not many can.

[@eryalmario5299]

I definitely think that smolder is better mid than in adc. Like bruv he doesn't play like an adc and he deals magic damage. Like his q auto combo is kinda clunky. He's also one of the few mages that doesn't have hard cc

[@lesliew3]

I think i’ve played about 30 games in plat with or against a smolder since he released and the team with smolder won 1 time…. Absolutely atrocious

[@Smolder1]

[@Amonra333]

To be fair who isnt op when Nemi play it?

[@yGKeKe]

Anyone who ever said this champion is weak needs to have their head examined by multiple neurologists.

[@alexyguadalupe3456]

That akshan is total ass.

[@bestgirlaqua7856]

there are 2 kinds of smolder players... ones that int, and others that int even harder. Every smolder ive had in plat + is dogshit

[@dulauch9191]

it is good if they say he is weak so i can abuse him longer until he gets nerfed XD

[@davidnymann5423]

People think this champ is weak because everyone is in bronze and thinks chanpions are on a 1:1 power scale at every point of the game.

[@TrueFineGentleman]

Please play Mid for TL

[@dith500]

no

[@nater8410]

Nemesis is like pyke is flaming. Will you report him? Yes Will you mute him? No no this is getting more and more interesting let him cook.

[@garradlester6443]

WASD to move camera XD

[@raidbossnunu]

I really enjoy playing smolder, so please Riot buff him more 😄😄

[@REDTECHCUSTOMS]

Same reason why people say master yi is broken

[@wikingzkurwabrodaitoporem1382]

and why people say yi is broken?

[@Chordeva]

They should already nerf Akshan in a way that his passive cannot be perma reaplied. Bro can just go into your face with all that mobility and perma hit 3 stacks on you. They're also applied insanely quick

[@DrHakennase]

I just Malph Ult him and nuke him to oblivion. He is so ffin weak early to mid game cant pressure the lane get prio on drake and such. In my last games everytime Smolder gets picked that team loses.

[@ClipsArchive69]

Go accept a contract position on balance team and be humbled within the first hour kekw

[@bozydargroch9779]

Noone says balancing is easy, we're just saying they are doing poor job xd

[@azixf]

yo

[@iedgiie9279]

a champ that needs 20 minutets to even look like a real champ just cant be op xd

[@giahuyinhho749]

f

[@LinLinWaa]

STOP SPREADING IS OP HDSAHDSA SO NOBODY KNOWS!

[@JsPlace]

smolder is going to remain an op champion as long as riot refuses to force him into 1 lane

[@GameIplayS]

LoL has just been getting progressively worse over time, the removal of mythics is nice, but they've mentioned the addition of riot vanguard (chinese spyware that has kernel access to your pc and all files regardless of if they're related to league of legends or not) i've played 2 arams and it just wasn't worth it, this game isn't worth being spied on by china and giving them complete access to your PC and everything that's ever going to be on it, also last thing VANGUARD CANNOT BE FULLY UNINSTALLED, IT WILL KEEP ITSELF ROOTED INTO YOUR PC EVEN AFTER UNINSTALL, do not install this chinese spyware, it's insanely dangerous.

[@systemabc3989]

US and Israel also spying on you so why would you care about China spying?

[@VirusZero0140]

People gotta stop listening to pekinwolf hes trash

[@aquarian4260]

easy answer, nobody want to win 51% of their games and spend thousnds of hours playing like that. i want a 90% wr to chall with like 100 game that i in total play in a year

[@JwowDickens]

nemesis.... my dear brother... come have a smolder mid on your team in emerald and see what happens, hell be 0 4 before you can do your first clear. The talon, zed, akali will then perma invade your jungle because mid has no prio. GOODLUCK

[@Nemesis_lol]

That's a skill issue, not a champion issue.

[@ilplopperz]

if only the best players in the world can play it ,it s a champion issue