How are we saved according to Orthodoxy?

How are we saved according to Orthodoxy?
In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, One God. Amen.
As per Christians, how is it that humanity is saved? And what does salvation actually entail? This very subject of how salvation is effected in the life of the believer is one that has been heavily debated by many. Until today, in many Christian circles, much discussion has been had as to how we are saved by God. This subject matter is called Soteriology - specifically the theology dealing with salvation. Today, we hope to introduce the conversation by having a very high level discussion about how Orthodox Christianity approaches the subject.
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[@jenny-doe]

As Protestant who’s not familiar with orthodoxy at all, I’m glad and amused of how biblical and Christ-centered you are! God bless Christians of all nations

[@Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y]

hi Jenny, in true Orthodoxy we live the Sacred Scriptures. In my Christian Community we read the Bible in the original language of Koine Greek we have some members in our community who speak Aramaic. Aramaic and Koine Greek were the languages used by Jesus and the Apostles. We have an unbroken continuity with the Apostles. Χάρις ὑμῖν καὶ εἰρήνη ἀπὸ θεοῦ πατρὸς καὶ κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,

[@boshstar2613]

Hi could you maybe help me i want to understand as much as possible about Greek orthodox christianity my grandmother is Greek my other grandparents are English i have a craving to learn, by your comment it hit me that you might be the one to find out more from blessing to you my brother in Christ.

[@Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y]

@@boshstar2613 Hi, I would love to help you. If you would give me a general area you are living in. I will see if there is a community in your regions in the meantime if you have a twitter account. I can answer your questions there . Take care!

[@boshstar2613]

@@Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y Greetings brother i live in east sussex i know of some Greek orthodox churches though i do not attend but any more info would be greatly insightful also my main question i ask you this should i follow the East orthodox church or the oriental orthodox church or are they both okay to listen to?

[@Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y]

@@boshstar2613 Thank you, I will ask my Monastic Community of Brothers to help me find a Monastic Community that may help you with your Journey. God bless you, I will be praying. I hope to have an answer for you in a day or two.

[@lisalmenard3828]

I am a (low-church) Protestant who left the RCC 30 years ago after reading the Bible for myself. I agreed with 100% of what was said in this video. 🙏🏼

[@eyoeladane1024]

look more into Orthodoxy

[@gsnipernew3.070]

@@thetej2227 Look even further east😄. I have an Oriental Orthodox background. Believe me it's the worst form of Christianity I have ever seen. It's full of paganism and meaningless traditions and rituals that contradict the Bible. Eastern Orthodoxy is a little better. Protestant evangelicalism come closer to the truth as revealed in the pages of the Bible. Remember, truth maters according to the Bible.

[@IvanAgram]

I got saved 31 years ago. It was through clear teaching of the Gospel, Christ, came, died and was resurrected. Salvation is likened to a birth and I think that is what is missing in his generally good speech. One is saved by faith in Christ alone, and once somebody is sealed by Holy Spirit he is hidden in Christ and not under wrath of God.

[@inotaarto8719]

As one who follows Christ. I approve this message. Thank you Yeshua for bringing us to unity, as You are one whit the Father. Thank you for your everlasting love.

[@alexking6070]

We are saved trough faith but faith without good works is dead

[@CopticOrthodoxAnswers]

Yes indeed... and God's grace works synergically with our repentance...

[@IvanAgram]

Good works are a product, fruit, of Holy Spirit whom we receive by faith only. There is no synergism in salvation act of God, our part is to believe in finished work of Christ, that is all. Repentance is a state that leads to salvation by faith, it is not something that saves by itself. Judas repented but didn't have faith. Faith alone saves. The faith that came out of repented heart.

[@alexking6070]

@@IvanAgram ok bro

[@reemsuekar8112]

AMEN.

[@rajiantony6306]

Excellent teaching Father 🙏🙏🙏

[@selamtesfaye5962]

Amen

[@csa7189]

Very insightful. I've learned something new today. Being saved is something we say everyday and take for granted but never gave it some deeper thought of how being saved occurs. Thank you father. May God Bless your service.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Speak for yourself. I think about it often and it makes me cry tears of joy and sadness that Christ died for me

[@lorichandler6387]

Thank you so much!

[@VoVina111]

I'm so glad to have found this channel. I know that God sent it to me! Thank you for your videos

[@drthomasshimelis]

Thank you abouna

[@Mike-gz4xn]

Thank you for your work on these.

[@blessedlove2113]

Beautiful

[@Bellg]

Great sermon

[@blessoneasovarghese9834]

Great preaching ! These are the real contents what this generation needs. I praise the entire Oriental Orthodox Church for preserving it's true faith and liturgy over generations. Great initiative, Father ! -- from Syrian Orthodox Church (India)

[@henoknahusenay89]

Praise the almighty Holy Trinity , Lord bless you, Abouna! ☦

[@xnihilo64]

What I would give to spend a day with you, Father. I have so many questions.

[@xenu12]

Thank You for the post !

[@CopticOrthodoxAnswers]

God bless!

[@EricDunn1234]

Wonderful explanation. I’m very encouraged.

[@meanwhile4308]

Just WOW 💞

[@joedahdal2050]

Well said !

[@mikamiko8396]

where is the next episode?

[@karas3248]

Hi Abouna, are you talking about Penal Substitutionary atonement in 5:40 and onward?

[@shepherd162002joms]

PSA is a heresy in Orthodoxy

[@thomasburke9060]

Inclusively. However, at the beginning of this section he refers to God's honor being offended, which is not the sort of thing adherents of PSA tend to say. The notion of God's honor being offended was an emphasis of Anselm, the 11th century archbishop of Canterbury. He pioneered the satisfaction family of models of atonement, of which PSA is a later development. PSA focuses more on the satisfaction of divine justice than on God's honor. The whole satisfaction family is difficult to reconcile with Orthodoxy because they all make it seem as if God is in want of something because of the rebellious actions of humanity, and the satisfaction of that want is necessary in order for God to be able to reconcile humanity to Himself. But of course God cannot be wanting for anything.

[@carliebeau5329]

Hes all i have.

[@CopticOrthodoxAnswers]

Amen

[@Juni47054]

So are we getting saved by faith + 7 sacrement and baptism and good work or just only faith that gospel of the cross of the Jesus christ?

[@mervynsykes3482]

I thought this was wonderful, as a evangelical , Paul writes in Romans ch5 .Therefore having been justified (declared righteous ) by faith(christ) we have Peace with God .Through our Lord Jesus Christ.Is this your understanding?

[@orthodoxguy]

Hello father, if Christ is the truth Why do I have hard time believing it and seeing it is even harder?

[@brd6184]

Christ didn’t say it would be easy to accept and live in Him. Sometimes truth is the most bitter medicine! God bless you

[@davidskorik1]

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” James says: ''So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless.'' Paul writes: ''For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.'' This is how you are saved.

[@IvanAgram]

James is making a point how you can tell a true faith from a false one. Faith not accompanied by works is the faith of the devils since it has no relation to sin. But it is not as faith needs works to bring salvation, but it is faith which need salvation to bring works.

[@davidskorik1]

@@IvanAgram I agree!

[@BeatrizMartinez-dy3oy]

Listen and reading g if the bible, repent and accept Jesus Christ as you ONLY Lord and saviour. Born again from the Spirit of God. Once you repent of your sin and surrender your life to Jesus He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit ❤

[@gabrielgabriel5177]

Coptic orthodox church is much more clear and humble that western chalcedonian orthodox.

[@thomasburke9060]

What is the difference?

[@gabrielgabriel5177]

@@thomasburke9060 copts are not are always calling other christians heretics and they dont doom them to hell. Many time chalcedonian orthodox call all other christians including orientals heretics and they are sure they go to hell. Simply saying chalcedonian orthodox do not havw good relationship to other churcher unlike coptic church. Coptic church is most strict in faith but still one of most merciful churches. And chalcedonian byzantine churches persecuted non chalcedions severely before muslims took over north africa

[@thomasburke9060]

@@gabrielgabriel5177 And what about clarity? You also said Copts (I haven't figured out yet why you're emphasizing a national identity so much, rather than speaking about your faith tradition in general) are clearer, but you didn't say anything in your last response that seemed to me to be speaking to the matter of clarity.

[@gabrielgabriel5177]

@@thomasburke9060 sorry i just replied quickly. I am not ethnicly copt. I have been following coptic church about 9 years but i had not possibilty to convert to it becouse in my country we dont have coptic church. I have also planned to convert to byzantine orthodox church becouse we have byzantine church. But i dont feel myself home in byzantine church. Culturally i like coptic church more. Also there something very different in byzantine church compared to oriental churches... Byzantine church is somehow very melancholic and dark while oriental churches are very energetic and bright. You can feel this in hymns, doxologyas, prayers, icons, in music and art generally etc. Also coptic church is much more alive. Young people are actively in church unlike in european byzantine ones. Also teaching is very strong and clear in coptic church. Of course all this can be just my own experience. This is becouse i can listen coptic church teachings becouse i know arabic but i can not listen to most of byzantine orthodox sermons becouse i dont know their language. But the teachings that i have heard from byzantine church is not so spiritially strong than in coptic church. Coptic orthodox church is very strict though. You cannot marry from other sects. You cannot divorce. You must be babtized againg if you convert to coptic orthodoxy even if you had been babtized before. Coptic orthodox church does sign of the cross in the old way: from up to down and frim left to right. Just like catholics do. Byzantine ones do it opposite direction. The bread in coptic orthodox church is dfferent than in byzantine one. There are different saints. Byzantine orthodox church has teaching of hesychism and energies of god. All this is has been developed in west and it was not in original church and it was not in the year 451. Coptic orthodox church did not emphais on these.... This is just quick reply and just my personal experience. If you have possibilyvto go to coptic church you should and you should talk to some priest

[@thomasburke9060]

@@gabrielgabriel5177 It sounds like I need to clear up my remark about your nationalistic emphasis. Consider what the "Coptic Orthodox Church" is fundamentally. It is the Church as it took root in Alexandria and then spread throughout Egypt. By the end of antiquity, it was officially called the "Patriarchate of Alexandria and All Africa". This is because it was a regional church commissioned with the care of all Christian peoples in Africa. This universally African jurisdiction and mission is what historically defined the church. The notion of the church being the "Coptic church" is relatively recent, and reflects a nationalistic degradation of the church's sense of its mission. This is why I asked you why you're emphasizing a national identity so much, because it's not what the church fundamentally is, and it reflects a betrayal of its mission. The question is all the more salient now that I know that you're not yourself Egyptian.

[@kenw772]

You never got to the question. Jesus aid believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will saved

[@meronkiros62]

I liked and agreed with a lot but I just didn't understand or find the answer to the question.

[@meronkiros62]

I heard, why we need it, what salvation is, that there is more than one way but not a clear direct answer on - how - am I saved.

[@johnalexis8284]

Bingo

[@blade7506]

@@meronkiros62 this is how you’re saved. if you’re asking about your role in salvation, there’s a separate video for that

[@meronkiros62]

@@blade7506 can you tell me in words how i am saved or can be saved

[@natalie7068]

@@meronkiros62 Hi, sorry the video was confusing. That is why Coptic Orthodoxy isn't the true form of Christianity. You can be saved by believing in Christ. That is the gospel. All you have to do is accept that He died for your sins, and His righteousness is counted as your own. You cannot earn salvation. It is a gift. Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. -John 5:24 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. -Ephesians 2:8-9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. - Romans 10:9 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live -John 11:25 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. -John 3:16-18

[@MicahMarshall4Truth]

Perhaps you could help me with something. As I’m studying Orthodoxy, I see the patristic teaching for baptism. But then I see the “on the ground” reality of it in the Orthodox Church and it becomes very confusing and frankly, unsettling. There are many videos of infant baptisms where the priest is aggressively dunking babies into baptismal fonts. Some go head first, some swing the baby aggressively, some fully immerse, and some dunk the head and then the feet and alternate. Why is this? Why the aggression with infants? Why would this not be done delicately and with tenderness? This could easily prove to be my greatest Hang-up with the eastern traditions. I watch some of these and it seriously looks evil the way they handle these precious children.

[@CopticOrthodoxAnswers]

Dear Micah, I pray you are well. We can assure you that these videos are the rare exceptions. As a priest I’m very uncomfortable myself with those types of baptisms. Usually children are handled with much care as they are still very fragile. I could only assume that the idea behind those types of videos is to demonstrate the priest’s skill in baptizing, which is completely inappropriate. Mistakes can happen.

[@MicahMarshall4Truth]

@@CopticOrthodoxAnswers thank you for the response. Grace and peace.

[@IvanAgram]

One could ask why infants? Baptism is never performed on infants. This is a post apostolic practice. It can't be likened to circumcision since it is a individual declaration of faith.

[@martinluther3412]

Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

[@stevenrubio85]

Where were the Christians before 1517?

[@quakeroats5686]

@Seditionist glad that you said that Christ failed his church

[@quakeroats5686]

@Seditionist thank you for a pathetic deflection and no actual substantial response

[@quakeroats5686]

@Seditionist yes I did, I said you're saying that Christ failed his church

[@josueinhan8436]

I advise you to read the book "Long Before Luther", by Nathan Busenitz. It's a elucidative work against this pamphlet argument of "where were de church before 1517!?". I admitt that we, Protestants, may be confused and problematic sometimes, but we are not a buch of dumbs who ever have denied the fact that the Church always existed.

[@Lasharella]

Did anyone noticed he crossed wrong way, that’s not how we orthodox Christians cross

[@epchoisnainan1110]

that’s only done in the Byzantine rite not in the rites used by the Oriental Orthodox(Coptic, Syriac, Ethiopian, Armenian, Eritrean, Malankara(Indian) etc)

[@TheBigsmoke5000]

or its cause the video is flipped

[@epchoisnainan1110]

@@TheBigsmoke5000 no I'm an Oriental Orthodox and we do the sign of the cross left to right symbolizing God taking us out of the darkness and into the light.

[@Samuel33777]

Me too

[@christeanghobrial864]

Coptic orthodox Christians do

[@mynameis......23]

7:50 you are worng read 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 it says that through the Death and Resurrection of Christ we are Saved.

[@thomasburke9060]

You don't have the capacity to reliably interpret the scriptures on your own.

[@davidswiger3324]

@@thomasburke9060 That's a lie! The only reason believers may not understand God's written word is because their heads are so full of the false doctrines from the traditions of men. It will also be impossible without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit; so first, you have to be a believer. The Holy Spirit reliably interprets the Scriptures to all who ask the Father. BUT, not many want the truth; and that's a fact. “The matter is quite simple. The bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch of scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we know very well that the minute we understand, we are obliged to act accordingly. Take any words in the New Testament and forget everything except pledging yourself to act accordingly. My God, you will say, if I do that my whole life will be ruined. How would I ever get on in the world? Herein lies the real place of Christian scholarship. Christian scholarship is the Church’s prodigious invention to defend itself against the Bible, to ensure that we can continue to be good Christians without the Bible coming too close. Oh, priceless scholarship, what would we do without you? Dreadful it is to fall into the hands of the living God. Yes it is even dreadful to be alone with the New Testament.” - Kierkegaard

[@IvanAgram]

@@thomasburke9060 Really... but those in Berea did? Do you even read the Scriptures?

[@TheTenthLeper]

*For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.* Romans 10:13 KJV

[@CopticOrthodoxAnswers]

What do you make about the other verses that say otherwise about salvation? Mark 16:16, John 6, and so many more.

[@adamantdane3896]

Salvation is not of works Ephisians 2:8-9 is very clear on this

[@Mkvine]

Works that originate from us do not save us (Eph 2:8-9). But works that we perform that originate from God (Eph 2:10) do save us because they come from His grace (Rom 2:4-7). God, by his grace, works in us to enable us to participate in His works (Phil 2:13; 2 Cor 6:1), and this is what ensures the supernatural character of our works that makes them pleasing to God.

[@adamantdane3896]

@@Mkvine Salvation is not of works

[@Mkvine]

@@adamantdane3896 Explain Romans 2:6-7 for me.

[@adamantdane3896]

@@Mkvine Read Romans 2:1-5 its about man how men are with other men and toward the judgement of God. which God will render according to their deeds and those who seek eternal life (it doesnt say that have it) Explain Eph. 2:8-9 or explain Roman 3:25 or Eph 1:7 Col. 1:14 Rev 1:5 SALVATION IS THROUGH FAITH IN THE BLOOD OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST not works not by anything you do. Salvation is by grace through faith in the blood. Explain 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 THE GOSPEL there is nothing about you its all about belief in what HE DID. also i read the King James Bible the pure and perfect word of God.

[@adamantdane3896]

@@Mkvine I gaurentee you do not rightly divide 2 TImothy 2:15 i know that you do not believe Once Saved Always Saved. You do not believe Salvation is through FAITH ALONE in the BLOOD of the Lord Jesus Christ. I know you do not believe in a pre-tribulational rapture. I know you not believe in dispensation. You are not saved you want to add to the finished work of Christ you are trying to make it about YOU. you are LOST.

[@alanhummel9250]

Very vague. A lot of fluff

[@IvanAgram]

Exactly... and it should be simple. Repent and believe unto Jesus and you shall be saved.

[@russse2793]

Romans 10:9-10. 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

[@dennisharvey5852]

What evidence is there that anyone is saved? nobody has come back from the heavenly buffet with a story. "it is a mystery" but Jesus has been gone 2,024 years ago and is not coming back.

[@Godoliyas-27]

This is faith not science that you prove it with tangible evidences... But for christians our concious tell us God is alive.. Hell and heaven are there

[@retribution999]

Sounds very made up to me and detached from the message of Jesus

[@CopticOrthodoxAnswers]

Which one would be made up? The Tradition that started in the first century lived by the Church throughout the world and whose leaders wrote Scripture or the tradition that started its own interpretation in the 16th century?

[@rabbirubiel4932]

Holy Eucharist is the only way.

[@rabbirubiel4932]

@See, I have told you beforehand read nicene creed.

[@rabbirubiel4932]

@See, I have told you beforehand before Bible were codified church existed.. It's main view point is trinitarian faith and holy Eucharist

[@rabbirubiel4932]

@See, I have told you beforehand Jesus itself is holy Eucharist..

[@rabbirubiel4932]

@See, I have told you beforehand God is only love. Dude. I haven't said any blasphemy against Holy Spirit..

[@rabbirubiel4932]

@See, I have told you beforehand jesus is not Holy Spirit... Neither father. You believe a heresy. Trinitarian faith is the right one.

[@PETERJOHN101]

All the teachings of Jesus on salvation point to belief followed by obedience to his Commandments. Mark 10:19 and John 15:2 show that faith without works (James 2:24) is not enough. The Apostle Paul never said we are saved by faith alone, that is a Protestant heresy.

[@Skanderbeg_777]

Because you are ignorant of theology.

[@caleschnell]

In fact, Christ Himself stated of the Pharisees that if they *had* the FAITH or trust in God as Abraham did they would consequently *do* the works Abraham had done as Abraham was transformed by the life-giving Spirit of God unto living a righteous life thereby doing right because right doing is pleasing to God.

[@starlodear2987]

Oh yes he did! Lol We're saved by faith alone.

[@isavedharlem2079]

How did the thief on the cross done with Christ in paradise ? All he was able to do was believe . Just like Abraham and it was counted as righteousness

[@starlodear2987]

Salvation is free and not based on good works. And Jesus had to die on the cross for us to atone. Why else did He die and rise? It doesn't matter what your so called saints claim.

[@Bible-dw6kl]

Exactly. As a Greek american now staying in greece 🇬🇷 I agree there orthodox are all works based.

[@CouncilOfDort]

Read Ephesians chapter 2 verses 8-9. This guy is confused. It doesn’t matter what the book of “wisdom” says. Scripture is our only authority.

[@Saluspergratiam]

That's very ignorant. The Book of Wisdom is in the Catholic and Orthodox canon, and has been since before the Reformation. In our Canon it is part of the Apocrypha. So to say Scripture is our only authority... Well, they're reading from their Scriptural Canon which is older than ours

[@Mkvine]

We agree with Eph 2:8-9, works that *originate* in us do not save. But read Eph 2:10, there are works that originate in God and these do save. Please see Romans 2:6-7. The reason they save is because they are produced by God’s grace.

[@Skanderbeg_777]

@@Mkvine Where in Ephesians 2:10 is it talking about works that save? You see something which isn‘t there.

[@Mkvine]

@@Skanderbeg_777 I said these works originate with God via his grace. And if you look at Romans 2, there it does talk about works that save when done with God’s grace.

[@Skanderbeg_777]

@@Mkvine Yes all our works originate via God‘s grace, but your assumption/interpretation of Romans 2:13 speaking of works (we perform by God‘s grace that can save us) is totally wrong and you ignore what Jesus sais what this „work“ is. Let me first quote Ambrosiaster on Romans 2:13: Paul says this because those who hear the law are not justified unless they believe in Christ, whom the law itself has promised. This is what it means to keep the law. For how does someone who does not believe the law keep it, when he does not receive the One to whom the law bears witness? But the one who appears not to be under the law because he is uncircumcised in his flesh, if he believes in Christ, may be said to have kept the law. And he who says he is in the law, i.e., the Jew, because what is said in the law does not penetrate to his mind, is not a doer of the law but a hearer only, for he does not believe in the Christ who is written about in the law, as Philip said to Nathanael: “We have found him of whom Moses in the law and also the prophets wrote.” Commentary on Paul’s Epistles. Now to John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” This passage is the key to understand what is meant by the word work. Cyrill of Alexandria comments on this: This is the work of God that ye should believe on Him whom He sent. For of a truth better than the legal and typical worship is the salvation through faith and the grace that justifieth than the commandment that condemneth.

[@jamesmcmillan2178]

Yeah I’m confused listening to this guy. Spent 11 minutes saying nothing. The Gospel is so simple and child can understand.