How ARMOR Works in Helldivers 2

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Eravin

Eravin

Ай бұрын

A Run Down on how your Armor Values works in Helldivers 2 right down to the formulas and numbers that make up every little detail. Hope you find this helpful!
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@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Edit: Hey to those of you I told the Servo doesn't stack with Vitality, this in fact actually not true they do stack but not in the way you might expect. I'll have a full video on limb health and how injury works soon! Took awhile to get the graphics together for this one but glad to bring you guys yet more nerd numbers. Thanks for watching and as always my favorite comment will be featured at the end of the next video!
@aidanbrett369
@aidanbrett369 27 күн бұрын
The time spent on the the graphics was well worth it, amazing video and the most concise and detailed Ive come across. well deserved sub, i look forward to more content (especially after the new big patch coming)
@aidanbrett369
@aidanbrett369 27 күн бұрын
Also, there is something up with your audio that reduces the production quality, the loudness of your voice changes between what i assume is takes, and goes from slightly blown out to muffled, dunno if it was just me, but maybe an equalizer and looking into sound editing on top of the graphics might make it even better!
@wdub8421
@wdub8421 27 күн бұрын
What about extra limb health it’s sneaky good matched w/ vitality (maybe it’s broke) I find I can take way more hits with it and it comes with 30% throwing distance on nades and stratagems
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
I believe it's my M7's auto normalization kicking in everytime I open my push to talk, i've been having alot of audio trouble since I upgraded my mic which is unfortunate
@prefix808
@prefix808 26 күн бұрын
Your audio is within a completely acceptable range of good quality. I’m using AirPod pro 2’s and didn’t notice the muffled or overdriven sound at all. Just curious, what audio interface are you using with your M7? ….or do you have the Shure MV7+? That one does have auto-gain….and a built in USB interface.
@SilverGuard
@SilverGuard 28 күн бұрын
WAIT A MINUTE!! the bile spewers vomit attack, the thing that gets me killed ALL THE TIME, is EXPLOSIVE!??!?!?!? WHAT?!? never, in a thousand years would I think a stream of vomit would do the same damage as a grenade
@Kasumi_Tashi
@Kasumi_Tashi 28 күн бұрын
if the splash of it still hitting people even tho the projectile hit the ground didn't gave it away as a "sort" of explosive AoE, idk what else it could be saying but that's probably juuuust me
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 28 күн бұрын
@@Kasumi_Tashi yes, but the point is that it's MAJORITY AoE, meaning the direct projectile isn't a significant factor.
@SilverGuard
@SilverGuard 28 күн бұрын
@@Kasumi_Tashi I thought it was its own thing like "acid" or "bile" and was waiting for a set of armor that would give me a resistance to that elemental damage. it being counted as explosive damage is very counter intuitive to me
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Yep it's a bomb, who knew
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 28 күн бұрын
Basically Explosive is more akin to AoE damage than actually explosive. Actually, does explosive resistance help against flamethrowers?
@coomtheslayer
@coomtheslayer 28 күн бұрын
Acid being categorized as explosive damage is the most useful thing ive ever heard i will run light armor fortified from now on for bugs
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
:D thanks for watching
@ci825
@ci825 28 күн бұрын
Yes! Light fortified armor I found to be useful on eradicates and games where there’s map fog since it can help with bile sneak attacks
@biggestbirdsbiggestprophet3188
@biggestbirdsbiggestprophet3188 27 күн бұрын
y'know, that explains why my explosive resistance armor helped me live so much against bugs. Here I was thinking that it was just because my teammates had a slightly harder time killing me LMAOO
@myr_wlk698
@myr_wlk698 10 күн бұрын
Not really worth it, biletitans attack are easy to avoid, as for the spewers... You'll run that armor when you could use something better just for the chance of the mission being that rare chance of being a spewer one? Debatable, but not at all when you realize most of the time you dodge them, and when you don't, it's usually because one came from behind and they one shot you anyways, either with or without the passive.
@RatKing2137
@RatKing2137 8 күн бұрын
You'll get oneshot anyways lol
@tstanemo8950
@tstanemo8950 28 күн бұрын
Just leaving a comment here so General Brasch doesnt nerf the vitality booster.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
good soldier
@Spectacular_Insanity
@Spectacular_Insanity 26 күн бұрын
It's fine. It's clear that the devs don't even understand how their own mechanics work, so we don't have to worry about them nerfing the boosters anytime soon.
@MissBeloved__
@MissBeloved__ 18 күн бұрын
they're gonna be slowing down on nerfs now, and refrain from knee jerk reactions.
@PieguyXD357
@PieguyXD357 28 күн бұрын
It's crazy how useless the in game info is. We're missing so much information like planet supply lines, durable damage, and some booster descriptions. I didn't even know armor had such obscure mechanics
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
yeah armor is a rabbit hole
@LaserTractor
@LaserTractor 28 күн бұрын
Yeah, I hate when games give you armor with "shield icon" and 30 nearby and you think "30 what? What does that mean??" And then some power armor fallout appears and woaaah it's now 450 near "shield icon" . But...450 WHAT???
@JohnGrahamDoe
@JohnGrahamDoe 28 күн бұрын
@@LaserTractor Arbitrary stats are sooo dumb. If that number isn't serving as a multiplier or some other direct representation of the damage mitigation, it shouldn't be the number being displayed! It's so sad how the devs of Helldivers 2 had this notion that somehow obscuring information from the player made things "less confusing." It's not only insulting, it's just flat out wrong. More information will NEVER be more confusing. Arbitrary stats that represent NOTHING and hiding the majority of REAL stats behind the UI in the game code only is what makes things confusing!!!
@LaserTractor
@LaserTractor 28 күн бұрын
@@JohnGrahamDoe yeah, I like stats too. But if it has 100 kinetic and 100 explosive damage - DON'T add these two together like they did with scorcher and many other weapons. They listed penetration for grenades but not for primaries. I don't even talk about stratagem support weapons. "Go and explore". Duuhhh...I'm 300 hours deep, just give me data, I've explored enough.
@bellknight3310
@bellknight3310 28 күн бұрын
This is why I like the way Warframe does armor. You have a seemingly arbitrary armor value, but if you mouse over the number, it'll tell you exactly the amount of Damage reduction you're getting from it Games can keep their arbitrary numbers if they want, but at least give us an easy way to peek behind the scenes.
@luck0000
@luck0000 28 күн бұрын
Nice touch finally having your model talk to the camera instead of just having a stream clip of talking to chat or the people you're playing with in the background.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
trying it out, it's a little jank as my recording still has my avatar behind it, but given how this video is legit all about the information on screen and nothing to do with the gameplay, I felt it was best
@aidanbrett369
@aidanbrett369 27 күн бұрын
@@EravinVT you felt right
@__Razer
@__Razer 17 күн бұрын
​@@EravinVT I barely noticed the second avatar behind the talking one.
@somethingmissing7108
@somethingmissing7108 28 күн бұрын
10:17 Wait, so you're telling me I should have been running Fortified on bug missions and Extra padding on bots?! I've been doing the opposite! How Many Other Lies Have I Been Told By The Council?!
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Not by my Council, I represent the Ministry of Truth
@Voicesit
@Voicesit 28 күн бұрын
For bug we need to run fast
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 28 күн бұрын
How are people this dense? Just let a bile spewer hit you in light armor, then in heavy armor. Then do it again in explosive fortified. If you are in heavy, explosive fortified, shield pack, and vitality you can ignore bile spewers. They basically just tickle.
@Steir12
@Steir12 28 күн бұрын
@@davidbeppler3032 Its hard to tell how much vomit actually hit you. Did i survive because my armor helped or was i just slightly off the vomit trajectory and most of it missed.
@denodagor
@denodagor 27 күн бұрын
@@Steir12 So true, those bile attacks feel like they desync sometimes. You get hit by stuff that didn't even touch you sometimes.
@KiIlZ0nE
@KiIlZ0nE 28 күн бұрын
Phenomenal breakdown of armor. Been playing for hundreds of hours more than I ever should and by experience it lines up with everything you said. Never knew vitality added a reduction multiplier. Just attributed it 20% extra health but never felt it was accurate. Keep pumping out the nerd info content. I really appreciate your effort.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Doin my best thanks for watching!
@ludewich
@ludewich 27 күн бұрын
Same for me. I am still buffled that the vitality booster comes with a damage reduction multiplier. Are you really sure about this!?
@Commander_Appo
@Commander_Appo 28 күн бұрын
MORE NERD NUMBERS YES
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
always a bit more
@fesaaj1479
@fesaaj1479 28 күн бұрын
Would really appreciate a guide for where to shoot enemies. Which limbs have most/ least hp, different armor/DR types, etc
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
It's cookin, That one is alot more graphics haha
@josephburchanowski4636
@josephburchanowski4636 28 күн бұрын
@@EravinVT Is it also going to cover explosives and damage to main? I find that gets the most confusing, like how you can two shot a devastator with the grenade launcher if you take out an arm on the first shot, however I haven't been able to consistently destroy the arm on the first shot (I think it requires like an elbow hit or something, idk, splash damage seems super inconsistent)
@Bocaj6487
@Bocaj6487 28 күн бұрын
You showed B-01 Tactical as your example for 100 armor value, but that armor has 150 armor value due to Extra Padding.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
I was waiting for someone to notice, this was an intentional error so this would occur :) Good catch
@yourverybestfriend1263
@yourverybestfriend1263 27 күн бұрын
THATS WHY I RUN IT ITS SO GOOD
@Poo_Garden
@Poo_Garden 27 күн бұрын
Heavy medic FTW against bots when running auto cannon. Feel like a tank build... Until The random headshot takes me out or I get stuck in a ragdoll and cannot stim as I slowly roll around on the ground for a ridiculous amount of time. Really wish they would put a timer on the ragdoll State and allow you to be able to stim after a certain amount of time being in said state.
@Necro_fury
@Necro_fury 27 күн бұрын
From my experience im so confused with extra padding, the light armor variant is great, the marshmallow man variant is great. But the starter set feels like it does nothing?
@stalight8606
@stalight8606 25 күн бұрын
@@Necro_fury I've recently re-used the starter set. Turns out it's pretty good! I think a big part of it feeling useless comes down to how bad we are at the game when we start. Similarly, the precision strike is actually a fantastic stratagem against bots, I would say as long as as you can land it, it's better than the railcannon strike. But when you start out, you miss a lot since you don't know throwing distances
@alessoBonora
@alessoBonora 28 күн бұрын
Cool breakdown. Recently switched from the kodiak to the fortified commando and definitely noticed a significant difference when taking rockets to the face. Thought it was my imagination, but this kinda confirms it.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Glad I could confirm that, and thanks for watching!
@MaximusTheGreat509
@MaximusTheGreat509 28 күн бұрын
I’m also rather fond of that armor, greatly improves survivability
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 28 күн бұрын
Another thought.... stop taking rockets to the face? They are slow moving. Just duck. Is what I do in my heavy armor. Can't move fast, but ducking is quick.
@intothekey
@intothekey 28 күн бұрын
I love the detailed breakdowns!
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
As long as i've got ideas we've got breakdowns
@DarthWamp
@DarthWamp 28 күн бұрын
@@EravinVT Thanks Eravin! Loving your well thought out breakdowns!
@yengereng9962
@yengereng9962 28 күн бұрын
tried the marshmallow armor, you can actually feel the difference and im not talking the speed difference lmao. you can actually get swarmed by hunters and come out relatively fine or the stuck in a bullet storm and walk it off, plus fire doesnt evaporate you, still hurts though lol. once vehicles come into the game the big downside of speed will be much more tolerable
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
for sure
@mist12345678910
@mist12345678910 24 күн бұрын
I always run it on bug missions and I usually die 1-2 times max on helldive. Many times its in 0-1 numbers
@__Razer
@__Razer 17 күн бұрын
Vehicles are already in the game. Exo-suits.
@mist12345678910
@mist12345678910 17 күн бұрын
@@__Razer wut
@yengereng9962
@yengereng9962 17 күн бұрын
@@__Razer im talking wheels
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 28 күн бұрын
Probably the most INFORMATIVE Video yet. And yet I must ask "WHY IS THIS NOT IN GAME!" Just like I ask WHY IS THEIR NOT A BEASTEY TERMINAL ON OUR SHIP!
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Gives me a job I suppose
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 28 күн бұрын
@@EravinVT Well your doing a good job :)
@exqueue3813
@exqueue3813 27 күн бұрын
The game wants you to figure it out. No hand hokding. Took me montha to figure out how to use the reload menu.
@UnknownSquid
@UnknownSquid 27 күн бұрын
Part of it is probably the game design leaning to immersive gameplay and decisions/learning coming from experience more than min-maxing and number crunching. So they deliberately kept a lot of info abstract, so that players feel it out, kinda like how a solider IRL doesn't know all the exact mathematical details, just the general intent of his gear. That said, certain areas of the info we get certainly could be improved, since the immersive design concept relies massively on things being intuitive and the info given not being misleading. Eg, stuff like the nuances of explosive resistance, or the "explosive" descriptors on certain guns and what that actually does.
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 27 күн бұрын
@@UnknownSquid And thats fair. Still, until recently the armor really didn't feel any different besides the perk.
@TheCosmicAstro-
@TheCosmicAstro- 28 күн бұрын
This is why i really wish they would just give us exactly what boosters do. For the longest time due to so many videos saying so, i thought the vitality booster just gave you 20 extra HP. But it being a 20% damage reduction is way more valuable especially for headshots. Thanks for all you do!
@OwOsiris
@OwOsiris 28 күн бұрын
I've always been running the Light Gunner armor just cause I liked the simple paramilitary look to it. And to boot it has Max speed and stamina like Trailblazer, but with extra padding bringing it to 100 armor. It is literal perfection as far as I care.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
for survivability on 50 armor that's the best option yeah
@arkhunter2002
@arkhunter2002 28 күн бұрын
so you're telling me there's other armor outside of light scout armor?
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Nope
@Suhayl_Khatib
@Suhayl_Khatib 28 күн бұрын
Try the medium “stealth” combat technician armor. Same as the scout but with the added benefit of a higher armor rating.
@arkhunter2002
@arkhunter2002 28 күн бұрын
@@Suhayl_Khatib im not gonna wear it, even if there's a fire! 🙂
@fuchsmichael93
@fuchsmichael93 27 күн бұрын
Theres the Arctic Rancher Armor which does look pretty cool
@combatrobot1443
@combatrobot1443 28 күн бұрын
Nice to know that the Fortified light armor from the superstore is actually beneficial, taking less explosive damage than non-Fortified heavy armor. Feels like a justified purchase now. Edit: Lmao, never mind, got to the part of the video that talks about explosive projectiles. Oof. Guess I should be on the lookout for the Extra Padding light armor in the superstore.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
lol yeaaah
@kyozero5840
@kyozero5840 25 күн бұрын
Don't lament, it's still a contender for the best armour choice against bugs in a subjective listing
@OpXarxa
@OpXarxa 28 күн бұрын
what I came for: "so is the light armor with armor padding actually worth using over light armors with other skills, or is it a negligible difference?" what I took away: "the vitality booster was THAT important!?"
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Lol oh yeah, it’s the best
@stnilus3294
@stnilus3294 27 күн бұрын
Your data backs up my observations. Using the B-24 Enforcer armor drastically improved my survivability vs. bots. But I struggled against spewers using the B-08 Light Gunner vs. bugs. Guess I'll run the Enforcer exclusively from now on since it's mathematically best in slot based on these findings. Democracy Protects is just too random for me.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
Yep Democracy Protects is only the play vs specifically one shots against your head hitbox and that's even more random
@orangesouls7112
@orangesouls7112 27 күн бұрын
A lot of words just for me to take away from this that extra padding medium armor is goated. Also shame most everyone thinks vitality booster is just limb damage and nothing else.
@brianmiller2185
@brianmiller2185 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for diving into the deep data numbers that make all nerds proud of fellow nerds! 🤓 Love the analytics that you put into your videos and know that it is a labor of love. Most people are thinking of the armor passives in the literal sense and don't think something that is vomited on you that is green would be explosive instead of acid or bile. Their in game descriptions leave a lot to be desired. Thank you for doing this video and i would love to see the breakdown video footage if you have time. 🎉
@TheRetroRiddler
@TheRetroRiddler 22 күн бұрын
This was a really great video. When vs Automatons I like to go full on tank with 150 armour and a shield with explosive resistance. I have been wondering about padded vs explosive resistance for a while and you have answered this exact question!
@BUZZKILL109
@BUZZKILL109 28 күн бұрын
It would be nice to see you breakdown what exactly all the boosters do and any interactions with them and Armour Passives. I've heard so many rumours about perks doing stuff thats not listed in the description like Muscle Enhancement reducing stun duration. Pretty nice and informative video regardless.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
thanks for the super and I think i've seen a few all boosters videos, cashcrop has a super detailed one I believe? eitherway thanks for watchin!
@TheCosmicAstro-
@TheCosmicAstro- 28 күн бұрын
There are some really good ones as Eravin said. The only one I haven't seen any good info on is motivational shocks. I've seen people say it's an 80% reduction and others say it's a 20% reduction. Saw a video from reddit comparing the durations and a hunter slow lost like .4 seconds or something... it seems like it's kinda useless. Hoping they make it slow immunity!
@Jhunta
@Jhunta 28 күн бұрын
d00d. you did answer my questions! I've been looking n waiting for this very information for months now. so thank you very very much for putting this together.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
@lukasulaberidze9555
@lukasulaberidze9555 28 күн бұрын
What an amazing video. Thanks for the time you put into researching all of this
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Thanks to the Ministry of Truth for making this possible tbh, I've got help these days
@dereksherwood3794
@dereksherwood3794 27 күн бұрын
Solid work figuring this all out, thank you!
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
doin my best
@cellem6216
@cellem6216 28 күн бұрын
You're making Lady Liberty proud Eravin.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
Lady Liberty is the only Lady for me so that's good
@blazewing2343
@blazewing2343 18 күн бұрын
Been favoring the light gunner armor since I first got it and now i know why. I just gotta remember to ALWAYS bring the vitality booster.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 17 күн бұрын
Yup!
@crestfallenhussar895
@crestfallenhussar895 28 күн бұрын
I love the enforcer armor. It feels like a really good spot for being tanky but not being quite as slow as the innate150s. Probably my favorite bot armor, big bonus it's got a fashionable Star Wars trooper look to it and fortified to deal with all the explosions.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
One could argue it's statistically pretty peak
@darkchild130
@darkchild130 27 күн бұрын
I wear nothing else for team dives
@Kopa_Malphas
@Kopa_Malphas 27 күн бұрын
This is HUGE. Thanks for the breakdown!
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
thanks for watchin!
@Mitchel6489
@Mitchel6489 10 күн бұрын
You know the helldiver you're playing with is goated when they're wearing the Trailblazer or Legionnaire (or equivalent substitute)
@TauMeleeSeeker
@TauMeleeSeeker 28 күн бұрын
now i know why the eradicator armor is my go to for bugs tks for the info keep those data videos coming i need to know all the numbers
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
As long as i've got numbers to give they'll be comin!
@RIOGRANDE75
@RIOGRANDE75 24 күн бұрын
Dude I had no idea the Vitality booster was that impactful on damage values. This changes everything, huge thank you for clarifying this, this info will solve many a debate I have with my four man squad mates lmao
@61tjackso
@61tjackso 25 күн бұрын
Thank you!!! I wish they made this kinda thing clear in the description
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 25 күн бұрын
Me too but I guess it gives me a job
@slywitt_the_cold1108
@slywitt_the_cold1108 27 күн бұрын
I like this guy. Lore accurate helldiver vtuber. He might as well be cannon.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
I wish lol that be cool
@jackormel6076
@jackormel6076 28 күн бұрын
Fashion diving is the way to go. Enforcer armour + Dynamo helmet goes HARD. You look like a trooper from the High Republic in Star Wars.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
respect
@user-fy9en4tc5u
@user-fy9en4tc5u 28 күн бұрын
Thank you! 👍🙏🤗 Finally after all those lengthy and difficult to understand breakdowns I have seen we got a short and a simple one :) Now I will reconsider what armour to use on bots missions. I guess I am gonna spend 400 super credits on that heavy extra padding armour. And I will try to use light explosive resistance armour on bugs missions to see how much better I am gonna survive bile spewers and bile titans attacks.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Glad I could bring a information dense no nonsense number crunch to the community, thanks for watchin
@Westwoodshadowgaming
@Westwoodshadowgaming 25 күн бұрын
OMG i need SO much more explanation! This is fascinating and i REALLY wanna know the details. Thank you for your service to democracy!
@brandonb-zt1gk
@brandonb-zt1gk 28 күн бұрын
Looks like extra padding vs robots, and explosive resist vs bugs because of the GD bile spewers. WHY they don't explain damage and perks better is beyond me... Great info here ty!
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
on the brightside it gives me a job :D Thanks for watching
@Cos416
@Cos416 28 күн бұрын
I really liked this video m8, great info. Keep it up, I love knowing things like this
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
me too, thanks for watchin
@TheDapperSaint
@TheDapperSaint 25 күн бұрын
As a die hard researcher of this game as well, I am so happy that you make these videos. Ive been telling people about stuff like this for the longest time despite it being hard to believe, so nice to have videos backing me. Came to realize that explosives are often more ballistics then explosives from the bots a while back, but i didnt know the full on numbers. Question, does this mean that ballistic shield technically mitigates damage from rockets then since it stops you from taking the brunt of the rocket impact and can potentially mitigate headshots? Ive noticed that impacts to the shield, at least from personal experience, feel like they lower the damage i take most of the time
@kevinrasmussen1748
@kevinrasmussen1748 27 күн бұрын
Best video on Armor so far I have read
@mrROAR104
@mrROAR104 28 күн бұрын
Fantastic video and useful data as always. Thanks for being one of the must watch HD2 channels. The effort you put in is greatly appreciated Also, they definitely need to change armor headshots to be a nice sliding scale starting at the lightest armor
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
Headshots are kinda insane rn, would like it to start the curve at 150% atleast
@4dragonzzz
@4dragonzzz 28 күн бұрын
Hey hey hey. I believe that subscriber count now says 10K!!!! Congratulations and thank you for all you do for the community.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
Yep made it to 10k :D Quite the milestone and excited to be around for 90k more
@benniebees
@benniebees 27 күн бұрын
8:14 I'm noticing something about the numbers here. In the left table look the left column for the numbers 100, 150, and 200. Now take a look at the numbers in the 2nd column. Let C1 be the number in the first column and C2 be the number in the 2nd column. For each of the 3 rows mentioned, we get that (C1 + 100) / 2 = 1 / C2. This means that survivability scales linearly with the armor value. This reminds me of warframe's effective health formula: EHP = basehp * (1 + armor/300). It seems like for each 50 armor above 100, you gain 0.25x of the survivability you had at 100 armor. So at 150 armor you have 1.25x survivability, at 200 armor you have 1.5x. The same goes for the other direction, at 50 armor you have 0.75x survivability and at 0 armor you would have 0.5x (If that existed, but it doesn't). To write this like warframe's formula you would get: EHP = basehp * (1 + armor/100) In this case, basehp is the health you have if you had 0 armor. The intuitive takeaway is: every 100 armor adds one multiple of your base hp to your EHP. Which makes it intuitive that 200 armor has 1.5x as much EHP as 100 armor. ie 1+200/100 = 1.5x (1+100/100)
@ululuku6873
@ululuku6873 28 күн бұрын
Literally the thing i needed
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
:D
@zeuslegen3609
@zeuslegen3609 24 күн бұрын
Fellow Trailblazer, as an Arctic Ranger main, I respect your dedication to the Scout's cause.
@zombieslayer7832
@zombieslayer7832 28 күн бұрын
I almost run exclusively the titan armor for looks but idk why as soon as I put a normal full light armor I become an actual npc dying I don’t know if those extra armor values really help,great video regardless
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
thanks for watchin!
@joshizfly
@joshizfly 28 күн бұрын
Always appreciate your approach Eravin, thanks for the analysis. Ill swap my armor choices haha
@noneayourbusiness5149
@noneayourbusiness5149 27 күн бұрын
I love reading the Training Manual Tips in General Brash's voice while the match is loading. It makes them even funnier than they already are! XD
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
If I could touch the game files that be a fun idea to actually do as a mod lol
@justacatwithasadface2692
@justacatwithasadface2692 26 күн бұрын
I do like how everyone in the community agrees that the Bonesnapper helmet is the go-to fashion choice to go with the Enforcer armor. It just works so well together, as opposed to the actual Enforcer helmet. That and Stormtrooper vibes ofc
@turdbergler657
@turdbergler657 18 күн бұрын
I prefer the butcher for some reason
@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke
@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke 28 күн бұрын
I am a light armor diver, but having tried the marshmellow man suit for the first time recently I do "get" the appeal. Shouldn't say these things too loudly, but extra padding probably became overpowered when it is on medium or heavy armor after the armor buffs. If only there were some options in the vicinity of one with ~120 and one with ~170 armor via extra padding.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
A 170 would be really comfortable
@soroweq
@soroweq 27 күн бұрын
Great info I love the numbers
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
Me too, thanks for watchin
@SilentSpeak
@SilentSpeak 28 күн бұрын
Ur vids are slowly becoming my fav helldiver content on youtube
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
doin my best!
@UnknownSquid
@UnknownSquid 27 күн бұрын
Has always been my favourite. No drama or whining, and actually knows what he's talking about. I share them often, since we need to get more of the community out of the rage bait engagement farm channels, and get them trained up on how to succeed, rather than just begging for buffs all the time.
@Southpaw_Blue
@Southpaw_Blue 27 күн бұрын
I particularly liked your discussion about extra passing vs fortified passive. Light gunner for automatons and fortified for eradications it is!
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
Yep! thought that be good to end the debate on
@MMBN4bluemoon
@MMBN4bluemoon 26 күн бұрын
It is crazy that I have to come to KZbin to find out this critical information. Maybe it was just me but I always thought vitality booster just prevent your limbs from getting broken. I didn't realize it was a general boost to your armor defense, that's almost as critical as taking the stamina improvement and fully stocked ammo rooster. This game, as much as I like it really needs to have this type of information available in the game so that the gamers know this stuff.
@DEXTR3ME
@DEXTR3ME 28 күн бұрын
Great video! It’s clear, you show numbers on screen, easy to follow and you put all number together for an easy comparisson. Would love to see values for Speed and Stamina aswell. With 50 armor you take x% dmg with x% movement speed. With 200 armor you take x% dmg with x% movement speed.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
There are some great resources with the speed and stamina laid out floating around youtube already so I might not cover that bit personally
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 28 күн бұрын
I did not have exact numbers. But playing I came to the exact same conclusions. I don't mind being slow. I am heavy armor, extra padding, shield pack, and vitality perk. If I don't die, I can res my team. Also, friendly fire is not friendly, this helps.
@devinshilightsdale9738
@devinshilightsdale9738 18 күн бұрын
After all the buffs that have been given to heavy armor, the fortified commando+vitality perk has become my favorite armor set
@miemsliva4464
@miemsliva4464 27 күн бұрын
@Eravin I am a very new Diver that's only been around for about a week and so far have been running a variety of armors into battle. The Titan suit is probably my only real default 'go to' if idk what to bring, as it felt like such a good balance of speed, survivability, and good utility with it's Engi-Kit passive. Seeing the stats here actually do make me feel rather happy, seeing that it's defense values (minus headshot) float around 100%. The starting Tac armor really does seem like a Gem of an armor set that people need to not sleep on as it probably only seemed bad because we were newbie divers when we wore it. It's got the baseline stats for movement and stam of a 100 point armor, while having the extra padding to be as defensive as most heavier armors at 150. The first heavy you unlock, the marksman, was my first real notion of how strong damage resistance could be, at least at my low level. 150 armor along with the 30% explosive res is, of course, going to be better than just having a normal 150(padded) armor for those explosions. I have no idea if I was running vit boost as well, but I was able to trudge 10-30 meter(s) distances without cover against medium bot forces (no hulks or turrets/tanks shooting me) [distance depending on terrain or an outright slowing debuff like barbed wire/large plants] Soaking in shot after shot as they hit me mostly in the arm and leg since my side was to them, and was even able to semi-consistently survive rocket raider shots and even was able to withstand 2 direct hits from a Rocket Devastators barrage due to him not hitting me square in the forehead. Also! I would love to see a small addative video maybe covering the Explosive damage resistance provided by being prone/diving, as it seems fairly considerable as i've seen people get hit dead on with a rocket and live. Unsure if it was actually a headshot as it could've hit the shoulder/backpack of the person, but it looked like they caught it with their teeth, so that's why i'm asking you to clear air.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
being prone or diving just reduces your exposure to the blast zone, it doesn't provide any innate numerical advantage against the explosion but instead just reduces exposure, if a grenade goes off in your hand prone, it will deal the same damage as standing
@HarryVoyager
@HarryVoyager 27 күн бұрын
Ok, that is awesome. And going to prompt me to try some different armors from my usual Heavy Fortified or Medium Padded. Hero of the Federation is a cool looking armor, after all :)
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
it sure is
@problematic_canik
@problematic_canik 28 күн бұрын
Dude you did a great job on this video. I went in thinking armor is self explained but boy was i wrong. Bile titans deal explosive is wild lmao
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
glad I could help and thanks for watching!
@CJM738
@CJM738 28 күн бұрын
Vit booster is so good. Wish my head didnt hurt so much
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
it's the goat
@MentalMittens
@MentalMittens 27 күн бұрын
definitely going to be using vitality booster more often now
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
It's fantastic
@matiasgaming4971
@matiasgaming4971 28 күн бұрын
I love my marshmellow man set. Taking the damage of a torso shot in light without vitality to the head with vitality is really good
@ozylocz4078
@ozylocz4078 28 күн бұрын
Solid video. Really informative no bs.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
That's what I strive for, thanks for watching
@xon0930
@xon0930 26 күн бұрын
Damn dude... this is so much vital info, and I'd love to see a breakdown of all the whys and whats to get to these conclusions. There's so much info, "info", misinfo, and speculation about so much of the math behind this game that I'd be interested in seeing it broken down into provable facts. Just that knowledge of spewers and bile titans using explosive damage is such an eye opener when it comes to how to deal with them and avoid dying. (also... that's some bs that they're classed as explosive damage)
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 26 күн бұрын
The majority of the information these days is derived from the game itself then put to the test in the field, the sources of that information I believe i've left in the description for the most part. If not i'll have to go find them. We also put all our sources in the pins on the discord as well
@xon0930
@xon0930 26 күн бұрын
@@EravinVT Oh for sure, I've taken a short preliminary look at them, but I'm just saying that I'd be interested in that video that you mentioned making if you get 3k likes on this one. Also, it could include any other oddball tips like the spewers being explosive damage. Anything strange and helpful that you wouldn't know without digging in the files, or testing and investigating things.
@tomhancock
@tomhancock 27 күн бұрын
This is amazing thank you. Instant subscription.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
glad I could help, thanks for watching!
@z--r0
@z--r0 28 күн бұрын
I suppose that just proves why starter armor is the best armor. It has the armor rating of a heavy armor and stamina booster increases it's sprint speed almost to the level of light armors (those are already at the cap of sprint speed before the booster)
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
Standard Issue with good reason it seems lol
@isawaryosuke
@isawaryosuke 26 күн бұрын
Love your videos!
@spinomitegames9000
@spinomitegames9000 27 күн бұрын
It's worthwhile to note that explosive resistance comes with reduced recoil on shots while crouching or prone. This stat can greatly increase the rapid fire accuracy of weapons with high fire rates or heavy recoil. My personal recommendations include the Heavy Machine Gun and the Autocannon.
@generalrendar7290
@generalrendar7290 27 күн бұрын
You've blown my mind like a devastator roket does!
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
lol
@Sharkbot89
@Sharkbot89 22 күн бұрын
I usually wear armor sets for visual appeal (even tho its inefficient) and found that wearing heavy armor other than the padded boi compared to light armor had no real difference in survival, maybe allowing me to take an extra hit give or take. I dont really mind the slowness of the heavy armor and usually always bring stamina or muscle to compensate. Your video really helped me understand the importance of vitality booster. This was a great video for helping me understand the entire subject. I dont think it would make me stop wearing heavy armor for visual appeal, but I will definitely start packing vitality as a go-to booster. Lastly, my luck is crap so I don't like to use democracy protects and just chose more certain stats for protection.
@mrgarneau4895
@mrgarneau4895 27 күн бұрын
Super useful video, it's sad that so much isn't explained in game. However as a souls-like player, this is par for the course for us
@aquamayne8168
@aquamayne8168 18 күн бұрын
Yo this video is amazing. Im gunna try out the fortified light armor on bug missions, im usually running the scout or lite gunner on any mission lol
@stalight8606
@stalight8606 25 күн бұрын
Hey, fantastic video, that was a great breakdown! I just want to double check, so in that case the B-08 light gunner armor is effectively the same as something like CE-35 trench engineer when it comes to damage resistance? I was curious if there are any benefits that armor DR get by having the medium or heavy tag applied to them
@AWACS_Snowblind
@AWACS_Snowblind 27 күн бұрын
Ever since my buddies watched me tank a SEAF Artillery high-yield explosive wearing my fortified heavy armor, I've never looked back. It's good to know that the Health Booster was the real secret to my survival, and not the shockwave sliding off my smooth brain.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
Gotta love Vit Booster haha
@somedude4087
@somedude4087 28 күн бұрын
thing good to remember about explosive resistance it allows you to do explosion jumping a lot more often and at a lot smaller cost (with best tool to do it I'd say being the autocannon)
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
xD
@omgeeerald4299
@omgeeerald4299 27 күн бұрын
LOOOVE DEEP DIVE CONTENT!! Here’s my like and sub! Keep on keeping on!!
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
doin my best, thanks for watching!
@Sir_Meowss_A_Lot
@Sir_Meowss_A_Lot 28 күн бұрын
thanks for this video! You and OhDough are my favourite Helldivers youtubers, I learn a lot from both of you. Can you compare primaries vs each faction please? I specifically have trouble vs bile spewers on bugs due to the heavy armor annd shield devastators vs bots due to the shield, I want to be able to deal with them with primaries preferrably.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
I want to talk about guns but I don't want to tierlist so it's difficult to get creative about that issue
@wingnutmcmoomoo494
@wingnutmcmoomoo494 9 күн бұрын
thanks for these videos in general
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 9 күн бұрын
Glad you like them!
@bobsnider4795
@bobsnider4795 27 күн бұрын
Very helpful thx!
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
glad I could help and thanks for watching!
@AtZeroDansGames
@AtZeroDansGames 28 күн бұрын
If everything in this videos is true, I think it's time to switch my go to Loadouts. Thanks Great work 🎉🎉 on showing the math of everything
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
The Ministry of Truth knows no faults!
@jacobivy2854
@jacobivy2854 26 күн бұрын
Shield generator pack, democracy protects perk, and vitality is as close as you can get to invincibility. It’s what I run on the search and destroy type missions.
@aff66
@aff66 28 күн бұрын
this is so nice to know! thanks! The vitality booster info was enlightening, does these numbers take into consideration the 5%/10% dmg reduction buff medium/heavy got aside from armor, that the 200 armor suit didn't?
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
They do yes, these are the current numbers as of this patch
@Akrilloth
@Akrilloth 27 күн бұрын
Man, i'm just happy that there is SOME merit to heavy armor now, id honestly still like to see a small headshot reduction in general, like down to 150% base rather than 200%, but i think there is a nice balance between mobility and defence now. Hopefully we will get some cooler armor perks soon.
@humaninthemaking9024
@humaninthemaking9024 27 күн бұрын
I've just accepted that if i get hit i will die, it makes surviving an attack feel better XD
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
me too lol
@ThePieareround
@ThePieareround 28 күн бұрын
This does give me more reason to run the White Wolf armor once they get the texture fixed on the chest piece. That said, my armor perk preference tends to lean more toward utility than survivability so I usually run a light or medium engineering kit set.
@druidicdwarf
@druidicdwarf 27 күн бұрын
I'm 100% marshmallow all the time so I'm going to run vitaility forever now. Ty
@Vorador-8
@Vorador-8 25 күн бұрын
Nice video, thnax
@AtZeroDansGames
@AtZeroDansGames 28 күн бұрын
Wow 3:15 so That booster Increases your armor? Interesting. I really hope the new team in arrowhead will make this stuff a lot more clearer. Because wow
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
Effectively it improves your damage resistance the same as armor does yeah
@SergeantSniper
@SergeantSniper 28 күн бұрын
I love my stay puft armor. Sure I'm a bit slower, but it can often mean the difference between surviving a burst, getting up, hitting a stim and returning fire *OR* just dying on the spot. Combine with a shield or other defensive stratagems and you can take some fire semi-reliably for your squad. That, and it makes me look like an absolute tank.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
Love being the chonky boy
@tomcampbellsoup
@tomcampbellsoup 27 күн бұрын
No channel is more useful than this for learning about the game
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
doin my best!
@TheJokingJoker.
@TheJokingJoker. 28 күн бұрын
I’m kinda surprised that you responded to almost every single comment on this video, it must have taken a while but very good video as usual
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 27 күн бұрын
I try haha
@Johannicus
@Johannicus 28 күн бұрын
I only play in Heavy armour. No problem with movement when you have the stamina booster. This can also explain why I like the "Mashmellow man" armour.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
It meets a veryyyy nice breakpoint
@somedude4087
@somedude4087 28 күн бұрын
I ran the light gunner armor for quite a while, then when enforcer came into the picture I got it for bots feeling like maybe I should try out the default/other medium padded armor from the shop
@opiniononion
@opiniononion 28 күн бұрын
Welp, looks like light + vitality is always the way to go
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
bare minimum yeah
@COA5T
@COA5T 28 күн бұрын
Eravin, quick question. According to the patch 01.000.300 - Armors with armor rating above 100 now also reduce damage on headshots. Does the "Extra Padding" perk not interact with this calculation? @5:26 The B-01 Tactical displayed has Extra Padding putting it at 150 Armor, but the headshot dmg is not decreased like the B-24 Enforcer. Can you explain this?
@speedyazi5029
@speedyazi5029 28 күн бұрын
I think extra padding would apply to the B01 armour. He was referring to the general medium armour stat of 100. The B01 does reduce headshot damage as the rating is above 100.
@COA5T
@COA5T 28 күн бұрын
@@speedyazi5029 If that's the case, okay, but that's not what was stated in the video. If B-01 and B-24 are both Medium and both above 100 Armor, why is the headshot dmg reduction that is shown different? It would make sense "if" Extra Padding does not interact with that calculation, which was what I was trying to confirm. The base armor of B-01 is 100, with Extra Padding adding 50 armor. So naturally, without the perk it would not go above 100, just like the other medium armors. In the case of B-24, it's actual base armor is 129 so it is already crossing that threshold without any perk. So I can only assume Extra Padding is not considered.
@EravinVT
@EravinVT 28 күн бұрын
I just left it in as the base armor but the numbers rep any non padded 100 armor, sorry for the confusion. Padded works the same as having 150 armor if its 100+50. No difference in headshots between 100+50 and 150 base
@COA5T
@COA5T 28 күн бұрын
@@EravinVT Just so I am completely clear, the statement in the patch notes - Armors with armor rating above 100 now also reduce damage on headshots: Does this mean armors AT OR ABOVE 100?
@somedude4087
@somedude4087 28 күн бұрын
@@COA5T 101 and above
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