How Atlanta Failed the Braves

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The Braves were trapped at Turner Field, so they left Atlanta.
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[@thebigcnel]

As a lifelong braves fan, I'll always miss Turner field as its the stadium I grew up with. With that said, Truist is an incredible stadium and the battery is amazing. it's the stadium the players and fans deserve.

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

As a Braves fan since they first came here in 1966 I miss Fulton County Stadium where I got to see Hank Aaron, Dale Murphy, Phil Kniekro, Jerry Royster, Bob Horner, Jeff Burroughs, Dusty Baker, Darrell Evans & many others but those '90s Braves were off the charts

[@evanpharr2516]

I think everyone agrees truist is by far the better ballpark, man I wish I could just see 1 more game at the Ted.

[@mikecanul]

I was just at TRUIST on June 1 - holy hell that ballpark is amazing

[@KevinMiller-xn5vu]

​@@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman14 straight division titles from 1991-2005 (excluding the player's strike in 1994), and only one World Series title ain't nothing to brag about.

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

@@mikecanul yea its great, I have been to a few & its one of the best

[@dwragsdale4172]

Atlanta was never going to put money into Turner Field. Remember the City of Atlanta did not pay for Turner Field; it was inherited by Atlanta from ACOG (Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games). ACOG paid for all of the construction and baseball conversion. Once the Olympic were over and all of the bills were paid ACOG dissolved, and all venues were turned over to the local governments. Thus, Atlanta had no need to issue $200 million in bonds to renovate Turner Field. They actually sold it to Ge State Univ. for $28 million which was all profit.

[@03mani]

Great move by both parties

[@kevinbrown1179]

It goes to show that leadership matters. The Atlanta mayors could have built up Summerhill, addressed MARTA, and parking. Instead, they were lazy, incompetent, and corrupt.

[@JuneBaby01]

That area is fine..in fact looks better than a giant Cobb county parking lot which is all Truist park basically has around it...plus they(braves) take all the revenues for that area...city of Atlanta got smart and said "skedaddle, and don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you...begone beggars"!!!...You should google the area where the Braves used to play...Ga. State has really transformed that area...it's better than it ever was when the braves were there and just taking taking taking!!!

[@brejackal]

You do know Cobb county fired the CEO and one commissioner is under indictment for acts that took the Braves out of Atlanta. But go off bigot!

[@jcallaway1617]

@@JuneBaby01 A giant Cobb County parking lot? Have you been to the Battery? Its great! There are so many things to do in the area for everyone in my family. We love it. Its far better than parking a half mile away from Turner Field and waiting 30 minutes to get back on the interstate after every game.

[@matthewpirkel2922]

@@JuneBaby01 HAHAHA...someone has no clue as to what they speak and GA St didn't transform the Summerhill area, gentrification did.

[@richardhead3211]

@@JuneBaby01 it was a crime filled black getto when i went in 2000

[@user-fj5os6jw4o]

Kasim Reed was a dumpster fire of a mayor. The Braves wanted to build up the Summerhill area like as was done at the Battery - team told the city of their plans AND that there was a back up site. Reed and his cronies thought the Braves were bluffing, and we see how well that went for downtown! Reed also sat by silently as the Thrashers struggled then moved away. One of the worst mayors we ever had.

[@riccorich]

The thrasher wasn't Reeds Fault, plus the Braves was silent on the stadium and move

[@jcspotter7322]

​@@riccorichbraves absolutely weren't silent about it, no venues around turner field has been a thing for decades. Notice that as soon as the braves move out, they finally decided to build up the area surrounding the ballpark?

[@JuneBaby01]

@@jcspotter7322 yeah, and Atlanta hasn't missed a beat..., The Braves thought they should be entitled to all the profits and control all the development in that area, and the city rightly said no, thank you! We don't need y'all... They, The Braves, were always bad tenants, even with their being gifted Turner Field for no money...My thought is the people in those surrounding neighborhoods say good riddance to the ATLANTA braves, 'cause they did nothing but take from the neighborhood, and never gave it anything but grief... And Ga. State has been much better for that area and has attracted a hell of a lot of money there... so Thank you ATLANTA braves for moving on, so other things good for the city could take place in the Summerhill/Mechanicsville/Grant Park area, that area has really taken off since the braves skedaddled, it's been majorly redeveloped, and is a much more affluent area now, since they aren't trying to hog it all for Liberty Media and it's board!!! So when will they be changing the name to the Cobb County, or the Perimeter Hwy/I-75 Braves? Can't happen soon enough for me cause they no longer have standing in the city!

[@ZakaliciousATL]

Kasim Reed and most of Atlanta's former mayors belong in jail.

[@brejackal]

@@jcspotter7322you can walk from the dome to Turner field at least take a bus. What about the lie it was for OTP fans cause Gwinnett fans are still just as screwed and cat take MARTA!

[@catastropheswithcam]

i live in a nearby city to cobb county called acworth and i regulary go to braves game my dad has raced the freeze,ive done the races on the field for teenagers its great bro!

[@jbaskinger]

I’m from the city and I can tell you that building Turner field was a mistake on location. Summerhill never wanted it and protested it even when the Olympics where announced because they knew they would be the first affected.

[@kaydee2126]

But it's in much better condition now. At the time I can understand why they would fight, but it's unrecognizable now. From then to now.

[@stephenholbrook4391]

I’m sorry, what was the purpose of this video? The Braves moved into a new stadium that NOW has them in the Top 5 in attendance. That’s good business..enough said.

[@jbaskinger]

@@stephenholbrook4391 Am I disagreeing with you somehow?

[@stephenholbrook4391]

@@jbaskinger I meant to post a public comment, not post a reply to you. Sorry. Go Braves!

[@jbaskinger]

@@stephenholbrook4391 All good haha. Go Braves!

[@jamesweldon8118]

I wish you would have taken a moment more to explain that heat map rather than just show it for one second 9:04

[@MatthewAmes247]

The numbers listed are zip codes for the areas. I assume the red dots are where tickets are generally bought in a certain time frame. I think its meant to show that most tickets are bought by people north and outside of the city.

[@josephgabello3214]

As a Mets fan that had been to turner field it was hard to get to as a tourist.

[@SmackYaMama]

It was literally in the middle of the city where 3 highways come together. There was also a shuttle from the nearest train station.

[@shivtim]

Do you think the new stadium is easy to get to as a tourist? It's even harder.

[@kapo2012fb]

It was easy for me .. They had a cheap hotel down the block from Turner

[@oh.....5075]

I grew up in rural Ohio in the 1980s and 90s, and I remember the Atlanta Braves always being on TBS TNT they were my first favorite team. My love for the Indians or now Guardians runs deep, but Atlanta Braves will always have a place in my heart!

[@Bodyknowledge77]

I grew up in the "forgotten borough" of NYC Staten Island as a Met fan and watched The Braves as well in the 80's and 90's. Also The Cubs on WGN. Did you get/watch The Cubs as well?

[@johnharris6655]

Cobb county is a hot bed of youth baseball. A lot of pro players have come from Cobb county, it is literally baseball crazy.

[@firebird6522]

And, the Big Boss Man was from Cobb County too!

[@philbailey7791]

Dansby Swanson is a good example, he was raised and went to high school in Cobb county. Great player.

[@HIMOTHY20631]

Is that where East Cobb is

[@selcatron]

it also had enough traffic before the braves moved lol

[@Acalltoservice03]

@@HIMOTHY20631 Yes.

[@claygilchrist632]

The Atlanta mayor gave much more attention to the Falcons than he did the Braves. The Braves then went to Cobb where the Braves were welcomed with open arms.

[@brejackal]

No they weren’t! They fired the Cobb CEO over it😂

[@TheGreat_Kramer1]

@@brejackal The move was a dumpster fire.

[@MegaJustGeorge]

Clay, my sir, according to Mike Malloy, MARTA wanted to extend their rail service to the Cobb County location, but the majority of the county's residents - who were white - were steadfastly against this, because it would bring in minorities to their county.

[@buzztp5119]

People were lied to about how much tax money would be used to build the new stadium. The Braves and Cobb county ripped the tax payers off big time.

[@shivtim]

And with open wallets - hundreds of millions in taxpayer money from Cobb citizens that could have been spent on schools, roads, and public safety

[@maxscameraguy]

Wish you called Ted Turner the "and at one point manager of the Braves"

[@DoingitWrongDG]

Living in Tennessee it made Braves games an option again and it's such a treat now

[@shivtim]

Why was it not an option at Turner Field?

[@DoingitWrongDG]

@@shivtim 2.5 hour trip there, 3 to 4 hour game, 2.5 hour trip home. Vs. 1.5 hour drive there now.

[@shivtim]

@@DoingitWrongDG it does not take an hour extra. It's literally 12 miles. Stop lying.

[@DoingitWrongDG]

@@shivtim as if traffic just doesn't exist

[@DoingitWrongDG]

That's what the stupid video is about

[@user-my3wr8ts7i]

Kasim Reed wasn't a good mayor. The only negative I have about Truist Park is its lack of access to public transportation options. Imagine a rail line connected to the battery. Also, I want to make a nitpick regarding the limited reach of MARTA. MARTA isn't funded by GDOT, making expansion difficult. Also, losing the Falcons to the suburbs (which they were threatening) was why they were treated as a priority. Football>baseball

[@riccorich]

That's not reeds fault

[@connorjordan3551]

And now hockey will end up in Forsyth County. This time, it will have a chance to succeed. Atlanta is a terrible sports city. Most people who live here are not from here, so they remain fans of teams from their previous location. The Braves are the exception.

[@willp.8120]

​@@connorjordan3551 Atlanta is a great sports city. #1 in attendance in MLS (out of 29 teams) #5 in attendance in MLB (out of 30 teams) #16 in attrndance in NFL (out of 32 teams; top half) Hawks had near 100 percent capacity last season.

[@kjorlaug1]

That's a Cobb county, not Atlanta issue. MARTA would love to go into Cobb county

[@Slowdrem]

@@connorjordan3551 hockey in Forsyth county will not succeed.

[@Bones_plays]

80% ticket holders live in north Georgia.. that was the no brainer to move north lol

[@chrisg4305]

That's where the population centers are. I'd be surprised if south georgia was less than 20% of the state pop.

[@barneyyoungjr5988]

Kasim turned around and gave the Hawks more money than the Braves were asking for.

[@richardlap2540]

Hmmmmm, let's see, NBA is predominantly BLACK! MLB is WHITE, DUH!!!

[@Espuds]

Atlanta/Fulton County Stadium was deliberately left out of the MARTA rail system because the city of Atlanta owned the stadium and didn’t want to miss out on the parking revenue. The rail line was drawn to go right down Peachtree Street until the Garnett station. Then it takes a wide swing to the west. Using MARTA to get to a Braves game meant having to wait on shuttle buses at both ends. Turner Field was a wonderful place to watch a baseball game, but so is Truist Park.

[@saldiven2009]

One funny part is that since the Braves organization moved out of the area, there has been massive amounts of development in the area.

[@shivtim]

Braves leaving was the best thing for the Summerhill neighborhood. Atlanta didn't fail the Braves, the Braves failed Atlanta.

[@saldiven2009]

@@shivtim What exactly was the Braves organization supposed to be doing down there? They didn't own anything. They even leased the stadium. The development going on in Summerhill today is the development the city promised the Braves for 20 years before the team decided to relocate. And, honestly, as much development as is going on in Summerhill, The Battery area was put together far faster, and I doubt Summerhill will ever get to where The Battery is. And, just as an FYI, I work for a lending institution that has been involved in financing the Summerhill developments, so I have actually been seeing the various development plans, time frames, etc. since the first rounds of the development started. There's nothing happening in the current development that couldn't have started happening around year 2000 if the city had wanted to promote the development. But, it was never a priority until the Braves organization said they were leaving. The only people to blame are ones in the Atlanta city hall.

[@saldiven2009]

@@shivtim But I don't agree that the Braves failed Atlanta like you said. Atlanta spent 20+ years failing to deliver on promises.

[@shivtim]

@@saldiven2009 Show me the promises? There were never any promises. The Braves are a horrible, greedy, racist organization. Good riddance to them. Summerhill and Atlanta are so much better now that they're gone. The Falcons, Atlanta United, and the Hawks are a million times better partners with the city.

[@tylers82]

As someone who attended Braves games regularly as a kid a Turner Field I loved it. Buttttttt the homeless camps around the stadium made it sketchy. My dad got robbed a half mile from Turner Field in the early 2000’s. The new Truist Park in Cobb is without a doubt a better fan experience and has been copied in other cities.

[@shivtim]

It hasn't been copied in other cities. Name one.

[@GizmoBeach]

Hell, let’s talk about how MLB (and the NFL) failed Atlanta’s teams for so long by making them fly cross-country for Division games for decades.

[@djtrankilo231]

Still amazed on how the Braves won so many NL West titles because of that

[@papagiorgio3314]

As someone who went to the old Fulton county stadium, turner field and the new truist (formerly SunTrust) park- it's no comparison. The battery is amazing and draws massive amounts of people even on non-game nights. The city of Atlanta could have done that decades ago, but couldn't be bothered.

[@shivtim]

Because we don't want some bland corporate mall. You can keep the Battery, we'll keep our amazing locally owned restaurants and awesome neighborhoods.

[@Jameski07]

we used to have a great hack for getting to the braves game. We go to Linwood station, have a couple pre game beers at Taco Mac, hop on MARTA there at linwood and ride to little 5 points. They had Marta right there waiting to shuttle you to the front gate of the stadium. Worked perfect for us.

[@LeeNobody]

It would have been better if the city and STATE could have invested in Marta expansion to turner/Summer Hill. Waiting on the shuttle and walking through underground was a pain. The sad part now is that W & Atlantic railroad could simply be activated for regional rail and serve all of Cobb county. It runs behind Cumberland mall( which via pedestrian parks serve Truist), downtown vining's, the Marietta square, downtown Kennesaw, and downtown Smyrna.

[@Dbomb81]

I mean Fulton county and Turner weren’t “Downtown”. And the area was a little rough. They move closer to their fan base, seems like a great move by the Braves. Someone from East Cobb who grew up in the 80’s would’ve loved this move to Cobb county then.

[@marshallwhidby6998]

Stan Kasten and parking had a lot to do with

[@nyckhenderson]

I hate going to truist park. Traffic is a nightmare. Parking is limited. No public transportation

[@cheeseborgors]

It's INSANE that the only public transportation to Truist Park is a commuter bus that runs *maybe* every 30 minutes

[@PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath]

Did you ever go to Fulton? Riding a bus to the game.

[@nyckhenderson]

@@PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath yes

[@ratedhavok9808]

There was pretty much nothing to do around Turner field back in the day, truist has a great atmosphere built around it. The battery is basically the Braves saying “fine I’ll do it myself”

[@riccorich]

The braves owners Liberty Media? Not Turner chose to leave the city, turner didn't like the move

[@rickjames2.0]

That whole argument about the surrounding area was a moot point. That area has been gentrified for quite awhile now

[@shivtim]

There's literally a Michelin star restaurant on Georgia Ave now

[@BK_718]

As a Mets fan who got to visit truist park I must admit the battery was awesome ! And my experience at truist was fun especially with their museum. However I don’t drive so getting there was a pain in the ass. I had to take the train to a bus. The bus ride from the MARTA subway station was only about 25 minutes but just wish they had direct rail service there like is Mets fans have.

[@LeeNobody]

Pleas make a follow up video on how this stadium could easily have regional rail connected to it. the W & Atlantic railroad could simply be activated for regional rail and serve all of Cobb county. It runs behind Cumberland mall( which via pedestrian parks serve Truist), downtown vining's, the Marietta square, downtown Kennesaw, and downtown Smyrna. Makes for an amazing video to show that the railroad that is still in use today it why these cities were founded, and could simply be repurposed to serve the communities again.

[@connorjordan3551]

Turner was a great stadium, but right smack in the middle of crack houses and hundreds of vagrants. I used to park near the capital and walk 20 minutes to get there. It was very sketchy. The city never did anything for the Braves. Then, once they left, the city put up guns of money. The state did, too. Now, they are going to build a stadium for Georgia State baseball in the exact spot of Fulton County Stadium. The new stadium was originally called SunTrust. Which was a bank that merged into what became Truist.

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

yup, last game I went to there in '97 I took 5 friends in my conversion van to see the Phillies, Braves lost 1-0 in 11 innings & my van was stolen! Been to Truist a few times, love that place much better even tho its an hour away from me {Covington}

[@brejackal]

Vagrants? You mean black Atlantians?

[@deepzone31]

"Public servants" can leverage state run educational institutions for crony kickbacks. Construction contracts and service provider contracts all have palms being greased behind the scenes to fatten pockets. They probably would have had a harder time doing that to a MLB team.

[@PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath]

Funny how the old Turner field is now a nice place thanks to Georgia State University and the demand for housing in the city.

[@cjones3710]

Braves put their own vendors out of bidness see fans as competitors, g r e e d.

[@KirkandRA]

I loved Turner Field but the parking at times was sketchy. The Truist Stadium and the Battery is awesome

[@TFDCAPT]

Old field wasn’t in best location. Pretty rough area around it. Just watch bait car and it’s in the background a bunch.

[@ratesforless]

Great points made in the video and the comments section. Truth be told, the Braves wanted out of that area long before the first shovel was dug down the street. There were rumors of them looking at the northern suburbs in the early-'90s, especially after their former co-tenants, the Falcons, moved to the newly-built Georgia Dome. But that was put to bed once they found out that they were going to be gifted a free stadium because of the Olympics. But as time went on and the same issues that they had in years' past began to crop up again, well, they ended up doing what they've always set their minds to. That is, getting someone else to build them a stadium without having to invest much $$$ into it, while having full creative control of what surrounds it. Now, as the video also displayed, the City of Atlanta (especially their Recreation Authority) didn't do their mayors or those teams any favors. They didn't invest a dime into the surrounding areas of AFCS or Turner Field and made life difficult for the Braves and even the Falcons to do the same back when they shared the old facility. That lack of investment drove a wedge of distrust between the team(s) that played there and the surrounding neighborhoods. They were still protesting about Georgia State moving there until the school moved Heaven and Earth to finally get things going in the right direction. IMHO, the Recreation Authority could've easily gotten the folks who owned land in that area to play ball, especially considering how easy it was for Georgia State to do so years later. All things considering though, it was a win-win. The Braves finally got a ballpark and surrounding area under their control that has become the prototype of pro teams looking to do the same, even locally. Just look at what the Hawks (see Ressler, Anthony) are doing with Centennial Yards, as well as the GWCC looking to redevelop the Home Depot backyard (former site of the Georgia Dome) as an entertainment venue beyond just greenspace for Falcons/United games in order to keep up with the Joneses. And as for the former Turner Field, the surrounding areas have never looked better. Now having grown up near that area, I know for a fact that there are still spots that I would not recommend you venturing into, especially further south. And yes, there is still work to be done to the stadium itself (East stands of Center Parc, I'm talking to you) that I know Georgia State and their fans have discussed ad nauseum. But they've built a new basketball arena there, along with a baseball stadium using the old footprint of AFCS now going up as we speak. There are shops and housing in areas that were once dilapidated and crime-infested. Georgia State and their partners have done a tremendous job in transforming what was once a largely ignored part of town. Much work still to be done but at the same time way better than what it once was...

[@swalker1517]

Traffic, neighborhood, and Mercedes are what ended Turner Field.

[@shivtim]

You forgot racism

[@dantheman9167]

I went to the last playoff game in fulton county stadium and the olympics watching cuba play a game and the first braves game in turner field

[@sfdko3291]

It's crazy how teams are capitalizing on bad urban design and creating small neighborhoods that way they can profit from it.

[@user-um6jj7rp7q]

I'm 24 I love hate relationship with this as a Braves fan because I will miss Turner Field but love the new stadium the only issue is how far the parking is compared to the old stadium

[@VisionMusicWorks]

Yep! I’m 54 and attended all 3 stadiums. That was my main issue until I got season passes at Lot B11. It took me about 2 years to figure out the best lot to park. I’ve seen people have to stop and catch their breath walking to and from parking lots at Truist. Only one lot provides a shuttle. Turner parking was the best!

[@whitead25]

The braves made a business decision. But the downtown area had to be improved. Specifically the project housing many of which I grew up in.

[@Lucky2000Zx]

I would love to see a long form video for the history of the tumultuous Arizona Coyotes

[@changkwangoh]

Out of context wifi brought up in the middle of Turner Field discussion as if wifi was a thing when it was built. Bye pop.

[@NOAH13064]

i loved both stadiums even having a big sticker put over my wall of a game of the 2010 nlds at turner field and i even have Freddie freeman's last homerun hit in turner field but i just like truist parks aesthetics and modern look way more and watching them win a world series for the first time in my life a couple years ago was amazing go braves

[@justinking3127]

Went to countless games at the Ted growing up. The area around it was awful, it was the armpit of the city. When going to your car at night you had to keep your head on a swivel. It wasn’t just homeless begging, it was homeless following to your car and making you feel extremely unsafe. I miss the stadium itself though, that skyline view was amazing. I didn’t like the thought of leaving until I got to go to trust for the first time

[@kevinmccurry4624]

They allowed the people who owned the areas around Turner Field to put up apartments and Townhomes and didn’t act on the surrounding property. And the number one reason that they moved it is because of the complexion of the people who live there

[@BlackPeopleKillWhitePeopleTenT]

Their complexion and their predatory behavior.

[@xG1ZZM0x]

Now Georgia State uses the stadium an businesses are popping all around that area.

[@joeg5414]

I live in Atlanta in 1991 when they got good. It was crazy. I remember being mad at my mom because she wouldn't let me get a tomahawk shaved in my hair. It was some special Supercuts was doing😂 Got to watch them play at Fulton County Stadium and Turner.

[@eulers]

I went to tons of braves games at turner field during summer break in my high school and college years. Tons of fun, great tailgating experience, but man, getting down there sucked, getting home sucked worse, and the surrounding area definitely didn’t feel safe at night. Im completely fine with the move to Truist even if the experience has lost some of the charm.

[@bobby4f]

I’m from Atlanta. White ppl got tired of going to the hood to watch games

[@educationalempowerment8610]

Retired my fan-ship to the Nationals when the Braves headed out of the city! I didn’t know the details… it really didn’t matter. The move marked the end of an era for me and I just thought it a good time to jump off the Fan-wagon. They were no longer my neighborhood ball club. BTW, I love the Summerhill explanation… NOT!!! You need to decode it.

[@dandrecollier800]

decode what exactly?

[@educationalempowerment8610]

@@dandrecollier800 decode that redlined Summerhill was never going to pay the bills for Braves… until it gentrified.

[@Acalltoservice03]

I grew up in the Tallahassee Florida area and was most of my life a rabid Braves fan. I now live in Cobb County and have since before the Braves moved to Cobb County. Since the new stadium opened, I've been to two games, and I no longer even watch baseball for a variety of reasons. But the fact that as citizens of Cobb County we never had a say one way or the other on the matter was a huge turn off for me.

[@jeffgorham8819]

I have a different perspective on this, having seen how the Braves treated their minor league team towns. Basically, they started with the A level teams, worked their way up to the MLB Braves with the same blueprint - build us a new stadium that we want (including rights to use it for 15 days a year so we can put in a concert we promote or such and keep all of the revenue), plus a major piece of the parking and concession revenues, or we'll move. And, of course, the Braves weren't putting in any serious money into the new stadiums. $20 million for a A level team stadium didn't fly, so eventually all of their minor league teams located. The Atlanta Braves just took the playbook to play the 'burbs against the city, same results.

[@Jeeter8]

So basically the Braves leaving downtown made the city more livable

[@JuneBaby01]

Yes....and they no longer had to try and please a twisted organization...good riddance!

[@matthewpirkel2922]

@@JuneBaby01 still chiming in like a dipshit huh?

[@matthewpirkel2922]

No, it took years after the Braves left for the area to develop into anything. Gentrification had much more do with the area's "revitalization" than anything else did.

[@matthew2487]

Fulton County sucks. As a south Atlanta resident, it stinks to have to drive so far to see a Braves game, but I'm glad the Braves play somewhere that appreciates them now.

[@shivtim]

Fulton county sucks? Really? Midtown sucks? Alpharetta sucks? Buckhead sucks? Piedmont Park sucks? GTFOH

[@dumpsterfirelife]

The traffic getting to and from Turner Field was absolutely demoralizing, especially for weeknight games if you had to work the next morning. I got to the point that I couldn't possibly have cared less if I ever saw another live game again. Unless you worked in the area around the stadium and were coming straight from work to the game, you would be lucky if you didn't miss a couple innings. The parking lots were horribly designed, and when leaving, there was a good chance you would spend more time in the gridlock trying to leave the lot than you would spend on the actual expressway. Even if they did put a Battery type development around Turner, it would have failed, or only seen decent business around the weekends.

[@taylorchandler7058]

The Braves moving out of Fulton County to Cobb County was absolutely the best move.

[@carlosenriquegonzalez-isla6523]

Good video man! I know that it may no matter for you but there is an interesting story about the upcoming soccer World Cup and the Azteca Stadium in Mexico City. I think many soccer fans would love to hear your thoughts about it

[@mattst88]

The Braves played in Turner Field from 1997-2016, inclusive. That's 20 years -- "not less than two decades."

[@buzztp5119]

Atlanta didn't fail the Braves. I live here this city supported the team for years when they were a joke. When the new owners took over they wanted to move the team out to the suburbs, and they used crime around the stadium as an excuse. The new stadium has just as many car break-ins and robberies as the old one because there is no parking close to the stadium and you have to leave you vehicle a mile away. If was the mayor of Atlanta I would stop them using the name because they failed the city of Atlanta and left after all the city did for the team and it was not right. I would make them stop calling themselves Atlanta and make them use another name. By the way several people went to jail because of the crooked way they got the money for the new stadium in Smyrna Ga.

[@zackamania6534]

A true baseball fan doesn’t need an AMUSEMENT PARK to entice them to go to games. Thats for yuppies and little kids…

[@glocksafari]

Never thought I’d see my house on a YT video 😅

[@corymatthews6778]

Can you do a video about the nets leaving jersey and how bad that stadium was. Even when the team was good the fans would never show up

[@UHaulShorts]

*coninski park* has entered da chat

[@Brock_900]

Don’t you mean Comisky Park?

[@UHaulShorts]

@@Brock_900 Or *U.S. Cellular*

[@ceave]

Comiskey, spelled Guaranteed Rate.

[@UHaulShorts]

@@ceave Da *G* spatt

[@wmw3629]

Comiskey, now Guaranteed Rate

[@underwaterlevelz1947]

I lived in a posh Marietta suburb in the 90s and early 2000s, and I can tell you for a fact that NOBODY wanted to go to Atlanta to see a Braves game. It was in an ugly crime-riddled area, traffic and parking were a disaster. One solution was to take MARTA (Metro Atlanta Rail Transit Authority) to the game, but MARTA, like BART in San Francisco, attracted dangerous people. My own city of Marietta strongly protested having MARTA stations built in our suburbs. So the Braves said "screw it", they built SunTrust (now Truist) in the posh suburbs of Marietta and now its fixed. I realize that the Mercedes Benz Stadium where the Falcons and Atlanta FC club play do decent numbers, but keep in mind, they only play once per week while the Braves play 81 games at home from late spring to early autumn. When it comes to selling season tickets, nobody wants to go to downtown Atlanta more than once per week.

[@TwoAcresandaMule]

I miss games on TBS

[@wandameadows5736]

Atlanta didn't fail the Braves. Braves are a Public Corporation traded on the Market & Government shouldn't be using Taxpayer money to fund Professional Sports Organizations.

[@riccorich]

The MBS stadium wasnt because of Soccer, Atlanta united was just a piece of a bigger plan from Arthur blank

[@justincroom404]

The Braves shouldn't be allowed to use the Atlanta name anymore.

[@ishmaellove7614]

why

[@Joshua-yr2fz]

The Braves broadcast bc if TBS reached way up into KY and NC.

[@jamesfields2916]

Braves are inly 10-15 minutes from downtown.

[@jkol323]

Not with traffic my man. It’s 30. Do you live in Atlanta???

[@cheeseborgors]

Yeah, if you're driving in the middle of the night when nobody else is on the road...

[@jamesfields2916]

@@jkol323 you are telling me you have never made that drive with no traffic?

[@jamesfields2916]

@@cheeseborgors vast majority of the people heading to Truist aren't coming from downtown anyway.

[@fishingthelist4017]

One of the first things you learn about driving through Atlanta is the Downtown Connector is a parking lot most of the time.

[@TrustedBanterSociety]

Oh Canada!!! Can you say South for me one more time?

[@Marc_Masters]

🤔 choosing Cobb county over Fulton? Yikes. Great mini documentary. What took so long for SummerHill to get their act together

[@shivtim]

Summerhill was screwed because of the massive parking lots around the stadium. Now that the Braves left, the neighborhood is flourishing with new restaurants, apartments, townhomes, a grocery store, and more.

[@sugarbear522]

Is there significant public transportation to Truist Park from Atlanta?

[@cheeseborgors]

basically none :(

[@Khh_1977]

No, and that’s how we like it.

[@brejackal]

@@Khh_1977bigots have been blocking MARTA expansion since before we won the Olympics!

[@deepzone31]

@@Khh_1977 In the DC area public transportation imports undesirables looking to cause trouble or "get away" with things.

[@lacucaracha7546]

Cobblinc bus that just gets stuck in traffic

[@arshpreetkaur2006]

I want to appreciate the hardwork that is put into your videos - research, audio, video editing and so much more. Everything is top quality. Keep it up!

[@tannerjamesgaughf6852]

6:01 Umm not enough parking?

[@matthewmorgan4765]

Yeah, quantity of parking was never an issue. It was simply no longer safe for patrons to be in the area.

[@Lark_36]

9:16 thats my friends dad lol

[@jsu9575m]

It really was a win win.

[@DZ-hu2sv]

I've lived in GA my whole life and the best thing that happened to the braves and us fans is them moving out of the hood into the new stadium from all the gang banging bs around Turner feild.

[@Becauseimme]

My Angels need to move to Tustin

[@felixlpilon]

Shows how stupid and awful North American car centric environments are... You're surrounded by highways and you can't go anywhere.

[@brianedwards8060]

Maapify❤

[@kjorlaug1]

Yes, rhe Falcons getting all that funding was a precipitating factor, but please don't be ignorant to the role of race and socio-economics in this.

[@Coronet_shop]

Turner field gone tooooo soon coming from Mets fan

[@Osei_Bean_8ryant]

Turner field was literally in the hood It also had no spirit

[@laatl824]

The neighborhood around it is booming now. The parking lots turned into student housing. New bars & restaurants & grocery stores. Georgia State University is investing a lot into the neighborhood.

[@ronniewatkins]

That's the state. The city didn't do shit

[@GreyPebble64]

This video was spot on!

[@PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath]

In the comments i am noticing a racist trend that white flight was a leading issue. Apparently these folks have never been to cobb county or the stadium. Diversity is alive and well, Cobb County just keeps it safe for all families.

[@matthewmorgan4765]

I, for one, miss being accosted by all the bums in the parking lot when I attended games at Turner field. Truist Park lacks the same "diversity enrichment."

[@dylangarrett8133]

Buckhead is not a suburb

[@jacobstrouble6631]

This is bs. The Braves left Turner Field because they wanted all the revenue and the city told them hell no. So they coerced the residences in Cobb County - who didn't get to vote on it because the politicians already said yes - to agree that the Braves would own all the revenue sales and Cobb County would only get the retail surrounding the stadium which is the exact same excuse they're using to move from Turner Field when it was never important to them. Then Cobb County residents started shitting on everybody saying the Braves wanted to be closer to their "fan base". You all know what that means. So even when the Braves won the WS, nobody really gave a shit about it in Atlanta.

[@nyckhenderson]

100. Their fanbase is mostly white up middle class. They didn't want them to come to the black community

[@JuneBaby01]

well said...

[@matthewpirkel2922]

@@JuneBaby01 hahaha

[@dandrecollier800]

@@matthewpirkel2922 I'm curious, what's so funny about that?

[@SoutheastBeast91]

Downtown Atlanta is ghetto and Smyrna is not. Pretty simple

[@xK9547]

Went to Truist Park this spring, the stadium is excellent. Great video!

[@Gallalad1]

So the answer was greed.

[@DrewB7777]

As someone who goes to 30+ games a year, the move to Marietta (Truist) was a blessing. Such a better location.

[@GioAyala12]

It’s very simple. The braces were in a predominantly black area. Atlanta didn’t want to invest in the area out of fear of gentrification. Or white people moving in. They hated baseball. The new stadium actually improved the area around it. Made it better.

[@stunsisacul]

The Summer Hill “revitalization” he’s talking about is a cluster of dormitory apartments for Ga State University. It’s that one clustered gentrified center surrounded by the same hood, junkies, hookers and pimps it was before. And a factor not really touched on was the Falcons new stadium deal. The deal included massive amounts of funding from the Falcons to the city for infrastructure upgrades and upkeep that the city had neglected for decades. It was a true fleecing of the Falcons. They should have moved out too. But the demographics pointed out in the video are spot on. The bulk of Braves ticket buyers are on the north side. I’ve lived both downtown near the stadium and in Cobb near the new stadium. The Braves made the right decision coming up to Cobb. And the old Stadium now looks like something Scooby and the gang would solve a mystery in.

[@kerrytodd3753]

Boy are you right……just different borders, that’s all. Without state funds Georgia College is no more, so the whole thing depends on taxpayer and lottery player proceeds……pay up! 😮

[@shivtim]

Stop lying. Summerhill has new apartments, a Publix, townhomes, lots of new local shops and restaurants. You know people have eyes, right?

[@stunsisacul]

@@shivtim walk two blocks to the west and tell me what your eyes see?

[@shivtim]

@@stunsisacul the interstate? The exact same thing that’s two blocks east and south of the battery.

[@stunsisacul]

@@shivtim Bro, did you even look at a map before posting that level of stupid for the whole world to see? Two blocks south? Did you mean the Cobb Galleria parking lot of the shopping center with petco and a hobby lobby? And East? Did you mean the 4.5 star out of 5 rated Even Hotel. I’ve lived in both areas, bro, don’t try to tell me what my neighborhoods are like. Take your L and move on before it gets worse here for you.

[@CurtisDavis-ok1eq]

How Uninspiring, Really!

[@aicofrena505]

I know it sounds weird but the dodgers need to leave their neighborhood for sure