HOW BAD IS THE STRIKERS NERF?! TU22 PTS

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[@my0866]

Don’t forget with this next update you get a choice of three buff modifiers , which basically means a group of players running a mission could basically get Three different buffs at the same time.

[@kostistsiutras4373]

dont forget the actual buff of the NPCs aint worth the buffs we gettin. As long as the xp is the same Old version with no new modifiers for sure.

[@MidwesternCornbilly]

Massive/Ubisoft are pretty quick to nerf and buff but to fix actually problems.... not so much. How long has the Call for Backup option been down? Two plus months? Maybe try fixing the disappearing rocket launcher on Liberty Island instead of nerfing the weapons and gear many of us have spend countless hours and a ludicrous amount of farmed materials to reach Proficiency and max upgrade. This game isn't exactly burning up the charts. It's Friday night and it is currently ranked at 373 with 1689 players. PowerWash Simulator has got more players ranking at 372. I love this game but their priorities are f'ed up. So many players have walked away from this game because of the constant problems that only get worse with every update.

[@CobaltFalconGaming]

I’d love to see the difference between nerfed Striker and Buffed Heartbreaker.

[@djtickle]

I can do this for you tomorrow 👍

[@mauriciocastillo7302]

From preliminary numbers it should look something like this when we consider chest, backpack, and gear set multipliers only. Note: PE=Pristine Example, PUF=Perfect Unstoppable Force, and PGC=Perfect Glass Cannon: Striker + RPM: Chest+PUF: 2.3×1.35=3.57075 PE+Vigilance: 1.85×1.65=3.5104 Chest+Vigilance: 2.3×1.25=3.30625 Chest+pack: 2.7=3.105 PGC+Vigilance: 1.65×1.3×1.25=3.0834 GC+Vigilance: 1.25×1.25×1.65=2.9648 Obliterate+PUF: 1.52×1.65=2.8842 Pack+Obliterate (Currently): 2×1.25=2.875 Obliterate+Vigilance: 1.42×1.65=2.6944 Chest: 2.3=2.645 Pack+Obliterate: 1.85×1.17=2.489 Pack: 1.85=2.1275 Base: 1.65=1.8975 Heartbreaker (not including 15% AR/LMG): Chest+PUF: 2.3×1.35=3.105 Chest+Vigilance: 2.3×1.25=2.875 PGC+Vigilance: 1.3×1.25×1.65=2.68125 Chest=2.3 Base=1.65 Based on these multipliers, Striker still outperforms Heartbreaker by quite a bit on the higher end and at base because of its RPM buff, which is multiplicative to rate of damage. Also, ignoring the RPM, they are about equal at base and with the chest. However, Heartbreaker only requires 100 stacks with its chest and Striker requires 200. To outperform Heartbreaker chest+Vigilance, we need to use GC+Obliterate/PUF, Obliterate+PUF, or PGC+Vigilance/PUF, for example. In other words, Heartbreaker is easier to use but still worse than Striker, which now requires the use of GC, PE, or intimidate if you don't want to get 200 stacks. Also, if you have a tanky Striker, intimidate+memento is a great option. Lastly, you can't really go wrong with any of these setups: they're all easily capable of clearing the hardest content. Regardless if you switch to HB or try one of the Striker setups above-odds are, you're going to be doing more damage than you currently do, both on average & peak.

[@angryglock]

That stuff about enemies and range is a deal breaker for me. That's not a game I want to play.

[@sinner2133]

I thought those modifiers were optional?

[@darson100]

Thanks for this, I was gutted when they announced nerfs to pretty much everything from my favourite build. It will be interesting to see how Strikers stacks up against Heartbreaker after the changes.

[@djtickle]

I'll make this video tomorrow

[@goontubefilmz]

I just wish they didn’t nerf anything and just buff what they said .

[@djtickle]

Yeah bring things up!

[@SG5fzZ]

Nice to know i was worried between the ouroburos scorpio and striker nerfs but now that ive seen someone test this im fine with it now thanks for the vid tickle

[@djtickle]

Glad I could help

[@trickyBasterd]

This whole video is false. He didn’t have hostile modifiers. There’s a hostile modifier where armored enemies get 90% damage resistance. We will be a lot weaker on top of the nerfs.

[@djtickle]

@trickyBasterd no its not watch the video. I turned them off so that it was a fair comparison.

[@trickyBasterd]

@@djtickleExactly. Then you said we will actually be stronger multiple times. By not turning them on you can’t make that statement. Those hostile modifiers are strong.

[@djtickle]

@@trickyBasterd you are stronger if you turn them on. But it was to make the point that if you do that and add other buffs you will feel stronger. I have almost all the buffs unlocked and you end up much stronger and don't feel the nerf. But as I said in the video that's only after I talked about running with no modifiers turned on.

[@martinmiller3765]

So if the point of the modifiers is to make us stronger, they could have left everything they nerfed as they had been, and just lowered the modifier values to achieve the same thing without pissing people off.

[@djtickle]

I absolutely agree with this, I said the same thing.

[@apeshitzz8326]

Thanks bro👍🏿👌🏿👊🏿 cuz I swear I was getting ready to walk away from this game

[@djtickle]

Glad I could help

[@inwoodspakig8735]

The magazine size form 70 to 60 that is wild

[@djtickle]

Yeah :/

[@Opf3rz4hL]

Thats Not a big Deal calm down 😂😂

[@TheBigBlueMarble]

A lot of people use Strikers, Grupo chest with Obliterate, and St Elmos all in one build. Then I switch back and forth to my Ouroboros

[@djtickle]

Yup me too!

[@CurseTheVulgar]

Awesome test video, can already tell I will link this repeatedly in the upcoming weeks when Striker's nerf is being mentioned. People acting like it's the end of the world, when in reality they are just defunding the Striker's Backpack Police in the community.

[@djtickle]

Thanks but please check my new video this morning. 👍

[@CurseTheVulgar]

@@djtickle Will do!

[@Clyde44]

Yeah the modifier thing is the reason as it would make us too strong and the game has to be a challenge to some degree. Appreciate you going into the pts to do this. I prefer HF anyway but nice to know if I do want to use my strikers build I’d actually be stronger get with the correct multipliers. Oh and I’m getting that Clyde skin. It’s too cool mate. 👍

[@djtickle]

Thanks mate!

[@seanstover5199]

Good things there’s also a ton of newly buffed gear to try out

[@djtickle]

Yup loads to try!!!

[@matthewthorp4727]

Wonder if there’s going to be an in game explanation- maybe audio or cut scene based to explain the sudden ISAC upgrade? Aside from that though - if we’re aligning with keener - when will we get access to the hacker pulse🤷‍♂️

[@ryanschoenfelder8951]

True Patriot really needed a look at to be competitive with other sets

[@djtickle]

Yeah it really did

[@zarekt1]

I’ve already put my Striker in my stash, it’s a damn shame.

[@djtickle]

Damm 😭

[@dawidbrooh6952]

without no nerfs would be even higher if we let game devs do what they want with us this will be even worse in the future

[@EvidenceOfData]

There are many variables that can be calculated to measure loss/gain. I can take down a heavy on Heroic at short, med and long range with one clip no stacks needed with the Elmo. That's my base measurement. We will see how the mods affect that as the only item in the build getting nerfed is the Elmo. The sum of all the nerfs on the Elmo alone might be enough to make a difference in that measurement. But I think the mods might make that determination a challenge. Meaning not so cut and dry. We will see.🤷‍♂️

[@sinner2133]

I understand people who are upset, and to those who argue that they should’ve just buffed the weaker things without nerfing the prominent items, I agree on a moral level, but I don’t find it to be an actually effective method. Why would most people care that the devs buffed a shitty item by 50% if I can just keep using my normal full red striker? Regardless, I myself am quite disappointed. What baffles me the most is the ouroboros nerf, as it was such a good yet balanced weapon, it needed 0 nerfs at all. To be honest, though, this striker nerf won’t actually affect me in most situations. I’ve been running a 6 blue striker with striker chest and memento backpack, and from what I understand the nerf is only specific to the striker backpack, so there’s that Edit: after watching the footage, it looks like the striker nerf wasn’t egregiously bad. It’s still very much good. I’m just gutted about the ouroboros and St Elmo’s nerfs, they didn’t deserve them. Though I guess I can see the Elmo’s nerf? They want to promote the new exotic AR, which does sound very promising

[@Squirllydan]

Can we complain enough and maybe get the 10 rounds to not go away ? or leave the weapon handling the same at least ?

[@farthijones9134]

Hi. Still thanks for the vidéo. Are you going to make a vidéo about modificators? I am looking the informations. Thanks.

[@farthijones9134]

Sorry. I was the first vidéo I saw… Watching the other vidéos right now.

[@djtickle]

Yes I'll have out a lot more over the weekend 👍

[@anjm5694]

It's probably better for you to test it in the open world as well as the firing range, you can't get a true performance result from just the range

[@littlebigt0e]

The build that everyone will use is a 4-5 blue core strikers build with a shield. Watch. So much for build diversity. 😂

[@Dan-hx4lc]

Why would people swap in more blue cores if they are dropping roughly 5-6% DPS between the brand, gear & weapon nerfs? Your comment makes no sense at all.

[@davegiles2344]

Thanks for the video DJ 👍

[@djtickle]

No problem 👍

[@kostistsiutras4373]

thx for this upload brotha, as always short, imortant and to the point! Try same build with new buffed EB +5% crt chance +5% crt dmg and +50 rpm (same as Elmos) P.S. dont forget the actual buff of the NPCs aint worth the buffs we gettin. As long as the xp is the same Old version with no new modifiers for sure.

[@Forsaken66666]

The scorpio nerf is the worst part.

[@aaronsinspirationdaily4896]

Yeah it weird. Not sure how it helps anything

[@Sabali-d6d]

It was going to be a different mode like permanent death the only difference was the power u gain can transfer over to your regular character's

[@zorro8027]

I’m so glad the Rav and EB got buffs. Sad that strikers got nerfed (Strikers EB is honestly better than Elmo’s striker imo) but that does give an opportunity for other things to shine.

[@aaronsinspirationdaily4896]

Yeah true, those poor under appreciated gear items, I’ve always felt sorry for them. Their lives must be terrible. It was always so sad that we could never choose to play with them before this update. So frustrating, right?

[@alpapers1]

So the Saint elmo's is down 60 from 70 magazine size?

[@halfdead1380]

I've had random negative headshot damage with Heartbreakers... I had negative 55 headshot damage ... like wtf... I think I streamed it the other night on twitch... I have like one or 2 people watching at a time lol 😅

[@justintoonsbeats662]

Pvp going to be a hot mess with all these nerfs to crit chance

[@kHAzZAd]

Seasonal Modifier its similar to Polarity Sh*t that we had, idk ( when NPC got modifiers)

[@Dr_Hfuhruhurr_23]

DJ, what r the little vertical lines below ur XP bar?

[@djtickle]

Just the new xp bar they changed it

[@Dr_Hfuhruhurr_23]

@@djtickle thx bruh, can u confirm if the loot goblin has been dropping seasonal items as he is supposed 2

[@highcard6155]

So is the Scorpio is that only being nerfe for PVP correct?

[@glenn55231]

Good work sir! As always!

[@mikestion4629]

Huh. Still respectable damage, even if all of these got a slight hammering. Pretty neat.

[@chrisvda88]

How about running Foxes Prayer vs Grupo??

[@Sabali-d6d]

Keener has his own Network which is better than Isac now we are stuck with it

[@SnakeDoctor303]

What smart game dev says hey, let's nerf thr most popular gear set and weapon. That will make players happy. So fucking stupid

[@mckrackin5324]

I didn't have any real problems with Striker or Hunter's Fury but my Hotshot build with a Determined SR1 is hurt. One headshot is not always enough to kill a purple enemy on challenging. I have to get Chainkiller wound up before I can go on a kill streak. I'm using Ninja bag, Airaldi gloves, Chainkiller chest and Hotshot. All headshot and weapon handling with all max headshot damage mods. All pieces are max stats with the SR1 at expertise 26 with headshot damage and damage to targets out of cover. I went from 26M headshots to 19M-20M. The 19M is not enough. The build hovers on the edge of maybe kill, maybe not. Gonna need some tweaks. Modifiers deactivated btw. Way too annoying with a Determined headshot build.

[@sinner2133]

I haven’t run hotshot in a while so I may be wrong, but if I’m remembering correctly, every purple enemy without a helmet was a one-shot headshot with no stacks on heroic. Even if I am misremembering and purple enemies weren’t a one-hit kill, I think your build may be off. Take out the ninja bike backpack as it’s seriously holding you back from getting a much higher headshot damage. Use a Providence Backpack with vigilance and headshot damage, if you have it. As for the chest piece, I don’t remember what the bonus for the hotshot chest was, but I was running a high end chest piece (probably a Airaldi Holdings but I don’t really remember) with a heavy focus on headshot damage. I suggest you try switching a few things around

[@mckrackin5324]

@@sinner2133 No need to switch right now. I hit 26,000,000 headshots and one shot elite bosses on heroic. It's only broken in the PTS. My build is set up for one shot body shots, no reloads and infinite ammo. Perfect for the current directives. Here's a look at one of my mules. Same pieces without max stats and no expertise. It works perfectly fine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXTckKOnqLWCrbc

[@mckrackin5324]

@@sinner2133 In case you didn't know... the SR1 got a 21% damage nerf. That's my main problem in the PTS.

[@shadysaad1989]

With the latest news they just made it easier for me to continue shelfing the game and playing other games since i wont be missing much and dont want to feel nerfed on my main character that i been playing farming snd upgrading since day 1. Easy pass for me. Devs team are clueless and dont care about the community that supported them

[@electricdino9835]

when wil full update come out?

[@SCarter02767]

They tried to pull everything in line. Just shows how strong the stuff they nerfed was. Obliterate was a bit excessive, but what other chest talent were people using aside from intimidate? Glass rarely with experienced players. I can say some are definitely disappointing, but understandable from a unbiased perspective.

[@SCarter02767]

St Elmo's you can destroy stuff so fast that's at rifle range. I get the nerf. There really wasn't a choice to not use it before

[@aaronsinspirationdaily4896]

I don’t think anything was “out of line”. I don’t see any evidence to prove that the debuffed gear was causing any damage to the game. And if it was, how is it being measured? The number of players leaving Div2 vs joining AND revenue generated seem to be the metrics that matter.

[@aaronsinspirationdaily4896]

@@SCarter02767you state this like a fact yet I know it is not a fact. I used at least 10 other choices of loadout in regular rotation. I don’t understand why other people did not. That’s on them

[@brassbat]

GGs I wasn't ever upset about changes. I'm a go with the flow kinda guy.

[@aaronsinspirationdaily4896]

Upset is not an accurate description. “Ineffective decision making in order to achieve the desired outcomes” is more accurate. I haven’t been able to understand how the changes help anyone. Players, Massive/Ubi, devs, my cat 🐈. Nobody. Waste of energy really

[@brassbat]

@@aaronsinspirationdaily4896 Yeah, bud, idk. I adapt. I'm not worried about it. Maybe it's because I'm not emotionally invested.

[@aaronsinspirationdaily4896]

@@brassbat indeed, my game library is massive and a short click away.

[@kruger-3522]

So that has ruined it for people wanting to do the Incursion!!!!!

[@salimrandall]

How bad is the Ouroboros nerf?

[@halfdead1380]

did they do a hearbeeaker nerf?? ... im getting fkd up lately..

[@gferd]

i think heartbreaker stack is buffed (1% damage per stack become 1.3% damage per stack). The one which get nerfed is striker backpack (0.85% from 1%)

[@halfdead1380]

@@gferd the same pve enemies I would face tank are killing me more often... I havent changed the build..... and its happened twice already where I check the stats and I have negative headshot damage... like neg 55 was the worst

[@gferd]

@@halfdead1380 What modifier that can make you have negative 55 headshot damage ? Beside, it's still on PTS not live yet.

[@luisdifranco]

For me doesnt matter cause I dont use striker !

[@djtickle]

Haha nice

[@andygreener3130]

It’s only 80k per bullet at max

[@Superdave863]

Great content as always! I think it’s time to pass on division 2 and new content is a year away.

[@LosSkywolfGTR]

I don't understand the strikers nerf, considering they buffed it to compete with heartbreaker sone time ago. Now they buff heartbreaker and nerf striker. Just...why ubi/massive?

[@Clyde44]

Modifiers. And as the results show you won’t notice it. In fact you may be stronger.

[@fstzfx7995]

If players look at it the nerfs that are happening you can gain back in modifiers acquired which in turn increase your agents dmg output

[@OccasusRaven]

this is going to have them a lot negative feedback

[@ashvinn15]

Not bad we might loose 5mil per clip

[@DustDemonTwilight]

EB buffed yet again and elmo nerfed lol, nothing about it is unique other than talent, all mods are the same as EB, Elmo should at least keep its 70 mag

[@kainmarco4323]

you can really tell who the Ubisoft cult members are in the comments.

[@djtickle]

Why is that?

[@thanhtong2281]

Instead of nerfing our current gear/guns, why don’t they nerf the seasonal modifiers? I don’t trust it - reason you put on long range modifier and NPC will also rush you. And vice versus. We seen it too many times in Global Events

[@trickyBasterd]

Not only that but if you read the patch notes there will be hostile modifiers to do exactly what you’re saying. The testing he did is inconclusive.

[@a1racer441]

so instead of buffing the weaker gear they nerfed the best setup nice. always buff never nerf that's how it should be.

[@djtickle]

I agree

[@alonzotoms6293]

the strikers bp was nerf’d not the entire gear set

[@rideitalia]

How easy do you want this game to be???

[@wp2746]

I holistically agree 😂

[@JJennerUK]

My guy you saw us do even more damage with the modification, and before it was a 5% nerf overall. Go cry me a river

[@finbarTTV]

People crying about this are hilarious, no one is even going to notice it.

[@richardnunn1958]

Why are they nerfing anything I mean really how old is this game just f#$&_#@ leave it

[@terrynichols4509]

I honestly think people are overreacting a bit. Even before seeing the numbers, the info they gave us werent that drastic. Im disappointed that striker is getting a nerf but at the same time i over have one loadout that uses the backpack so no real biggy

[@djtickle]

Yeah its not to bad tbh

[@torch917]

My favorite build to run is 4 pc Strikers, Ceska Obliterate chest, Fox's Prayer knees, & St. Elmo's. The build has about 52% CHC & about 163% CHD with 3 CHD mods. With the nerfs, I'm gonna have to swap two CHD mods for CHC just to get back to 50% CHC. How do the devs think this is an improvement. I hope they don't go through with it.

[@Dan-hx4lc]

Either everything in the video went straight in one ear and right out the other or you didn’t even bother to watch it.

[@trickyBasterd]

@@Dan-hx4lc Everything you watched in the video is false so it’s better if it went in one ear and out the other. He didn’t have hostile modifiers. There’s a hostile modifier where armored enemies get 90% damage resistance. There’s 3 other hostile modifier that make enemies adapt to our modifiers. We will be a lot weaker on top of the nerfs.

[@zorro8027]

@@trickyBasterd You completely missed the premise of this video. Seasonal modifiers are active; not set in stone. They will change *every season* What this video is doing is comparing pre nerf strikers to post nerf strikers to see the difference.

[@djtickle]

@trickyBasterd Omg stop and watch the video. I only talked about the buffs after the direct comparison. Also if you think we are weaker against the hostile modifier you are doing it wrong. I unlocked almost all the buffs and I melt faster than I ever have in 5 years.

[@djtickle]

Thank you @zorro8027

[@Calaxanasgaming]

Elmo’s needed the nerf so did striker I love these changes they buffed all the unused gear can’t wait to try out my new Ace’s or Eights in pvp

[@torch917]

The devs should add another gear mod slot to help midigate the pain of the nerfs.

[@zorro8027]

Another gear mod slot is rumored by some to be in the DLC But I honestly don’t know if it’s going to happen as that would be OP. With the Ninjabike back pack you’d be able to run two Gear sets. Strikers+Heartbreaker or Hunters Fury+Umbra would be ridiculous.

[@torch917]

@@zorro8027 I could be wrong, but it sounds like you thought I meant an additional gear piece. I was talking about an additional MOD slot for another CHC, CHD, SKILL HASTE mod or whatever mod is useful to the build.

[@zorro8027]

@@torch917 Oh I see. Yeah I completely misunderstood your comment sorry about that.

[@Sabali-d6d]

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE NERF ANYTHING IF THEY DIDN'T CHANGE WHAT THEY HAVE IN MIND... THEY WAS WORKING ON A NEW GAME MODE WHILE FIXING THE GAME... THEY WAS GIVING US A FRESH START GIVING US SOMETHING NEW IN THE UP COMING SEASON BUT NOOOOO EVERYBODY START CRYING LIKE CHILDREN SO THEY HAD TO NERF TO KEEP IT BALANCE OR IT WILL BREAK THE GAME TOTALLY.... THE NEXT TIME THEY BRING SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN, STEAD OF CRYING SEE HOW IT PLAYS 1ST

[@trickyBasterd]

this kid is crying like a kid with broken caps lock 😂

[@filmcinema596]

lo studio di sviluppo non ha mai capito niente del gioco, tutti queste cose introdotte inseriscono solo difficoltà varie in più. I giocatori vogliono nuove missioni, raid, nuove mappe del conflitto e delle zone nere (una zona nera con abilità disattivate), in pvp la qualifica dev'essere disattivata così tutti i giocatori sono alla pari, un supporto per le segnalazione dei cheater.

[@Dan-hx4lc]

Oh, so you’re one of the seven people who actually wanted the seasonal characters. I think most people would rather have a small DPS nerf rather than use the silly seasonal characters. By the way, in case you didn’t notice, your caps lock is on. You must have smashed it while furiously typing this comment.

[@Sabali-d6d]

@@Dan-hx4lc YEA I KNOW, I see they were introducing Keeners development, remember kelso left with Keener and Theo over the bridge where the new game mode was going to take place... Keener and Theo saw the problems with Isaac and made a better version which we were going to experience, possibly getting us ready for D3

[@xOperational]

They ruined the St. Elmo but hardly did shit to the Iron Lung. The Iron Lung is Cancer to PvP.

[@Dan-hx4lc]

Are you just too lazy to actually watch the video or did the math confuse you?

[@littlebigt0e]

Striker nurf not that bad. St Elmos is trash. Bulletking is far better and is getting a buff.

[@badboytoby]

The buet king is my $hit

[@yanero0215]

St. Elmos is trash and Bullet King is better says this kid😂😂😂

[@trickyBasterd]

You didn’t have hostile modifiers active so you can’t say we will be stronger. Enemies will adapt to our modifiers to counteract them. The testing is incomplete without the full picture.

[@djtickle]

For the 3rd time no. Your adding something into the picture that will change every season. We are comparing strikers with strikers nothing else.

[@jovaniedwards5627]

Am happy it’s getting nerf 😂😂😂

[@janekamonsiri]

Now you ve just showed the devs this isnt nerfed. They will come out another patch that actually nerf it. lol I dont actually care much about new changes, worry about they breaking stuffs again and it will never get fixed.

[@djtickle]

But it is nerfed its just not the chaos everyone thinks.