How Bad is This $10,000 PC from 10 Years Ago??

[@admyro3206]

shaved linus, wearing earrings, 980ti's, SLI, this really is a throwback

[@barrupa]

and the Polo shirt

[@jupitersailing6911]

​@@barrupai was gonna say 😂

[@Kirsty_McKay]

I love it all.

[@AMV12S]

Could be worse: Using hair gel, sandals and socks...

[@desk-kun]

@@AMV12Sduke nukem linus when

[@tc2241]

Getting my dad to understand that the 5k workstation he bought 10yrs ago is essentially a doorstop will forever be the bane of my existence.

[@madalinradion]

Yeah man I can already sense my parents itching to smash through my bedroom door to ask me why do i want to buy another gpu, does it not work anymore, did you break it, they always says this stuff ( I don't game much anymore so I only have a 970 )

[@VogonPoetry_42]

"But I paid SO MUCH for it!"

[@Muddy.Teabagger]

nah not a door stop, just a low end gaming PC, you got the think the 980 ti was still supported up till 2/3 months ago.

[@mshockey1216]

5K? Someone was advertising 5K in 2014?

[@Sotanaht01]

On the other hand if you were to buy a $5000 gaming computer right now, 10 years from now it would probably still be more than adequate. A lot of PC technology is plateauing right now. Storage and RAM are already as fast as they will likely ever need to be so long as the basic concepts of PCs and Gaming remain fundamentally the same. CPUs and GPUs are still improving, but much slower than before. Even if they did improve at the same old pace, graphics themselves have hit their own plateau. How much better would a game 10 years from now have to look to justify buying new hardware to run at Ultra instead of Medium, if Medium looks like Ultra does today? AI might be what kills this argument though. There are a lot of improvements to AI happening in hardware right now. For AI driven stuff, a 6070 might make a 4090 look like absolute trash, and it might not even run games that rely heavily on it at all. Who knows. I think we've reached the limits of one technology, but that doesn't mean a new technology couldn't easily take its place.

[@bigandymc2007]

When you held up the 4090 at 9:44 i honestly though it was an edit to make it oversized in comparison to the 980ti but then i remebered how big cards have got over last 10 years.

[@jannikl.8542]

it looks so comically huge lmao

[@niklas422]

I literally thought the same xD

[@Mick_Chicken]

It's ridiculous, And it really doesn't need to be this way

[@cmac3530]

It looked like an inflatable or a plush. Absolutely comical.

[@zeendaniels5809]

Which is crazy, because the PCB is not that big, it's mostly cooling solution.

[@diamondd7230]

Some people don't understand what 10 years ago is. That is just 2014.

[@yesyesys]

yeah, the Xeons are from 2010 and GTX 980ti was released in June 2015.

[@flint9889]

@@diamondd7230 Yeah and 2014 isnt like how 04 was.

What 😨

[@FinFu509]

Yeah it scares me sometimes😢

[@aspecreviews]

Does it ever drive you crazy, just how fast the night changes? - One Direction, 2014

[@tovarischshashlikov]

at this point linus is just fucking with us with no beard vs bearded linus, he is most CERTAINLY time-travelling via EVGA time travel kit

[@Atsumari]

I see unbearded Linus and am like "how is this Linus" it triggers me even though for years that I how he looked. Plus the swaping bearded to unbearded... my mind is broken.

[@captainwade373]

Doesn't he use a synthesized ai voice and deep fake? He made a video about it a while back

[@grimtides]

Honestly I'm hoping they bust the AI out to keep this meme going for longer

[@wembley636]

At this point? think the fucking has going on for a lot of years!

[@Megalomon]

Unbearded Linus clearly the winner. Except when it comes to goofy looking. Then the beard wins

[@nugget-zf5by]

Bro is actually time traveling rn lmao

[@pitruscitrus_104]

as am I, seeing a wild nugget has appeared

[@TheSykoRC]

you mean he didnt shave, they brought him from the past ... back to the future?

[@tamablescarf6886]

bro i thought it was an old vid not even lying then i see him get the case out and im like wait didnt he only just get that when he made the evga gpu video

[@newaccount877]

Yes

[@Raderade1-pt3om]

He came back from 10 year ago to make this video with stuff he brought back

[@tommywang8229]

Man this thumbnail really makes me thought it was 2017 again

[@Jesus-father]

for real

[@jswbr]

the way I get recommended videos from LTT a decade ago though, it's not far fetched.

[@Stud_SolsRng]

FR FR

[@deepeshpatel26]

Ya good times

[@Jexyxd56]

I swear lol

[@benroberts127]

Feels bad when there is a throwback video to hardware 10 years ago, but my buddy is still rocking the FX-6300 in his PC 😢

[@bjornzek]

Me too

[@kalebdaark100]

The system I'm watching this on has a AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor 2.70 GHz 😁

[@FistFullofFrags]

@@kalebdaark100 Mine is a Intel Pentium J2900 2.41 GHz with 8gb RAM

[@kalebdaark100]

@@FistFullofFrags Cutting edge tech

[@silentclown1157]

Intel core2 duo e8400 vity8 gb of ram :D

[@dustinsmith1134]

Even adding the intro back in…super nice touch to match the throwback Linus and throwback board!

[@itsTyrion]

the old intro would've been even better for this video

[@MrDacedric]

That intro is post covid so not really a throwback at all

[@yvan2218]

Holy cow linus even brought back the earrings. What a throwback

[@Metal_Maxine]

Linus never stopped wearing the earrings. On the WAN months back he said he tried to remove the stud with a pair of pliers and failed. He then tried pliers on both freaking sides and still failed. I think they were a present from Yvonne.

[@yvan2218]

Ohh that's new info I didn't know, but it's a Linus trademark from way back at least to have a polo shirt with double earrings in my opinion

[@mgtowanonymous3120]

​@@Metal_Maxine BeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeTA

[@jamegumb7298]

Left is straight, right is gay, both sides is bi.

[@besticouldget]

@@jamegumb7298Lol this is some 2005 shit

[@calebthecashew343]

lately these videos have been taking me back to 2016-2017. I actually love it so much

[@raylopez99]

You must be young. When you're old, 7 to 8 years is nothing.

[@calebthecashew343]

@@raylopez99 I am indeed young, 21 years to be exact, but there's no shame in that 🙂

[@raylopez99]

@@calebthecashew343 I'm shaming you, there's shame in that. But you are old enough to buy a beer, cheers.

[@Patisaloser]

​@@raylopez99shut up

[@TheAdaoo7]

​@@raylopez99more like 2013/2014 lol

[@N8Dulcimer]

My PC still has all the parts I got for it 10 years ago, which were pretty high spec at the time. I only play old games on it, so I've never had a need to upgrade anything, but I'm pretty impressed that all the components still work great after 10 years of regular use. My stacked GTX 780s can run Skyrim or Fallout 4 on ultra, so I'm not upgrading until the minute they fry.

[@devildante9]

One thing to take into account is power usage though, a kit from 10 years ago may take 600 watts to render 1080p 60 FPS, while a modern one will take like 350 watts for the same. Yes a 4090 can drain 600W for itself, but that's only when used to the max, if you are playing older games it's way more efficient, same for the CPU and RAM. If you use a well tuned AMD CPU and GPU, you can even get more efficiency. Just food for thought.

[@derp812]

@@devildante9 No one cares, electricity is cheap

[@robertgeorgescu6990]

@@devildante9 Bro. By the same logic, I bought in oct 2016 a laptop with gtx1070 mobile, 32gb ram. (reasoning I play dota 2 95%of the time anyway). For dota 2, 1440p, about 90-100 fps (great for the game, laptop still kicking today. I can say after these years it paid itself thanks to the savings in electricity over the years, as compared to what the costs would have been have I had gotten another desktop. But still I wonder when this laptop will die out though)

[@BaronVonQuiply]

15:00 Once upon a time on a prior PC with a GTX 560 I decided to give The Witcher III a shot. Started up the game, went through the intro, got control of Geralt, and built a new PC.

[@Wesleystewart78]

i used to rock 2 480s until farm sim 19 then i did the same thing. granted back then farm sim was probably the most demanding game i played.

[@mal2ksc]

I'm glad I checked the specs before buying Cyberpunk 2077 -- it wouldn't have run at all on my system without a CPU swap because the 1090T doesn't have SSE 4.1 or 4.2. Otherwise, it would... maybe not "run" so much as "walk with a limp".

[@BaronVonQuiply]

@@mal2kscWhen Vista was new I tried a game that required Vista, saying it relied on brand new impressive features only found in.. etc. After a forced install, maybe they were right, but the parts I played ran on XP without trouble. So later I found another game that required DX10. My card was DX9, but... No, they were telling the truth about that one. I'd never seen a program Orange Screen before that.

[@thatjokerperson7062]

linus slowly reverting back to pre 2020 is great

[@Clay3613]

Nah, Chad Linus is best Linus.

[@ethancbaker2002]

For real!

[@austangmane7292]

@@Clay3613Heck no that's not him!

[@lucasokeefe7935]

He and the rest of us justifiably would rather pretend the last several years never happened..

[@Clay3613]

@@lucasokeefe7935 2020-21 were years ago dude.

[@techunow]

Watching this video feels like a blast from the past! From shaved Linus to those 980ti's in SLI, it's like we're back in the golden era of PC building. Nostalgia overload!

[@GummySlayer]

What are you talking about? Golden era is right now because just recently it has become a very popular thing, unlike 10 years ago. Building a pc 10 years ago was hardly heard of.

[@bnbnism]

​@@GummySlayer uh what lol people been building PCs forever it's always been a big thing

[@libtrs838]

​@@GummySlayer Were you a kid 10 years ago so it was unheard of to you? PC sales peaked in 2010 and have been declining every year since. Homebuilt PCs have also been declining since. Once e-commerce got going and websites like Newegg started selling PC hardware back in 2001 homebuilt PCs became popular, still by far the minority compared to pre-built but much more common than today. Most people don't even use desktops today.

[@schlomonoseberginterracial3906]

how old is linus in this specific video please ?

[@artydean9892]

​@GummySlayer how old are you ? I built my first pc in 98 im only 31 now its always been popular if anything the golden age was 98-2005

[@joselopeslinsneto3176]

This must be pushing more energy than my entire kitchen together lol

[@AlexKasper]

As a fun note, at work I'm still running an HP Z400 desktop PC which hasn't turned off (other than the occasional power outage on the Vancouver Lower Mainland), since circa 2012. Yes 12 years up and running non stop 24/7/365. The PC carries on like an old truck, and it's used for remote desktop tasks. Hard drives were updated twice, if I recall correctly.

[@Sterling_Silver04]

I've been rocking an HP Probook 4430s 2011 model in similar fashion. Not too long ago I did a full refurbishment/upgrade, upgraded to an SSD from the original HDD, new bluetooth card, 16 gb of DDR3 ram, a 2'nd gen i7 2630qm, the works. Honestly I wish I had done it a lot sooner. It is similar in performance (slightly slower) in comparison to my current main computer, a Probook 440 G7 which has a 10'th gen i3 and 8 gb of ram. For a laptop that started on Windows 7 and that spent many years trying to run games it shouldn't have been trying to run, it has aged very well.

[@ealtar]

@@Sterling_Silver04 p9x79, i7 4930K 32go ran cyberpunk on gtx 770(died) i now have a gtx 1650 still running win 7 ... "it just works " i'm waiting for some new product releases before new pc (i say new because upgrade is .. debatable)

[@chrisrowan4953]

I'm still running a hpz620 with 2 6 core xeon with 16bg of ram for my audio production studio and still runs like a champ ,just a little slower load times but I'll take it

[@AnonymousHomonid]

those things are quality BEASTS lol i got one (not running) z420 and dell t3600 as a daily driver. Power hungry but WORKS GREAT

[@j_taylor]

Those Z workstations are something special. I'm running a Z820 for gaming and...well, it's old but lots of cores and RAM with a modern GPU, there's not much it can't do.

[@jameshogge]

10 years ago... I might well have had a "Dream PC" wishlist back then with exactly this hardware. It's about the time I started looking at components to build my first

[@ace.5162]

Damm

[@shagstars]

But gtx 980 ti is 8 years and 10 months old. How would you build this 10 years ago

[@alphariusfuze8089]

@@shagstars Some timetravel things I guess

[@shagstars]

@@alphariusfuze8089 i guess so or he is nvidia executive 😋

[@literallyanythingelseother]

Ryzen 5 7600x, 32 gb ram DDR5 6000hz, 1tb ssd, Nvidia 4070, Noctua NH U12A or cpu cooler of your choice, B650M mobo of your choice, any 750w or 850w modular psu of your choice, case of your choice. Easy build that will play anything you throw at it without being overbuilt or poorly balanced like most prebuilds are. Should be like 1500 or so, good for years.

[@1tothe2the3]

I remember being super jelly at lans when someone rolled through the door with a tri sli or quad sli setup, they always looked incredible. However, some would setup, take the side panel off and sit a desk fan blowing into the case and then spend the evening troubleshooting issues for half the games we played. When it worked it was seriously impressive (minus the micro stutter) but it made standard 2 card sli seem reliable and well optimised. Which it wasn’t. I do really miss this era of crazy configs but it was always hampered by bugs/issues. Today if you buy top spec workstation specs, it just works.

[@MrCaptainTea]

Thank you for that read

[@sachyriel]

That's great insight into the era. Like a LAN blast from the past.

[@AlexanderVRadev]

Yeah but tinkering with it is half the fun. :) Now it just costs an arm and a leg to get even above average performance and you are stuck on 1 card and CPUs don't overclock past factory settings nearly at all. Not complaining here mind you. I am happy we are getting good CPU improvements as we finally have competition but GPU state of things has been a shitshow for years now. Just look at how nvidia keeps giving us the same performance for the same money generation over generation and if you actually want top performance, or even mid tier you have to overpay like mad. It's just sad and unfun to build PCs and tinker with them now. :)

[@cncaliguy09]

How about a square room fan placed right on top of it. After few hours it got so hot basically it need to cool down. Without headphones it sounds like airport runway. Also weighed a ton to move this since you had the biggest case, largest PSU. Cant imagine what a water cooled version weighed because the one I carried took two people to lift this best and place on a chair.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

Why would anyone miss this? Don't lie. It's a huge waste of resources, time, and effort. This was an era where companies thought about brute forcing their way into gaming and thought that people would pay for it which some foolishly did lol. This was stupid.

[@10p6]

The SLI problem is the PCIe Bus is being hammered by one 980 Ti, let alone 4 of them. A better setup would have used quad GTX 680's in SLI.

[@sourcan8664]

YOOOOO THEY BROUGHT BACK THE INTRO

[@raylopez99]

Yeah trying to capture that old magic.

[@LoremasterYnTaris]

Aye, I miss when they actually did intros for all their videos. There was just something about it that felt _right_ whenever it came on.

[@ryanjones4106]

Yeah I hope they keep it, there’s something really special about that little intro song and video

[@charmsly9506]

I've stopped watching regularly after late 2022, what happend I'm coming back to pc building

[@jackt883]

We have a HUGE laptop at work that has dual Geforce graphics cards, a DESKTOP intel core i7 processor, 16Gb of RAM and a 300+ watt charger! It's absolute garbage compared to even just the CAD style laptops we have these days. Tech has moved on a LOT. The laptop itself is a very weird brand that we couldn't even find! I was very surprised when I opened up the hardware details.

[@A-BYTE94]

Dual GPU in laptop WTF?!

[@Acre00]

I remember that MSI had one like that with a full desktop mechanical keyboard on board as well. Not sure if it had dual gpus, though.

[@YashaAstora]

​@@A-BYTE94Dual GPUs were pretty common in super high end laptops about a decade ago.

[@cerealport2726]

At work I recently went from 6th gen intel to 13th gen intel laptop (both marketed as "mobile workstations" by a well-known retailer). I was really surprised at the performance upgrade. I'd never buy one for personal use (and my company only buys from this one retailer, so I had little choice) but as someone who does modelling/simulation, and AI as a job, it was certainly a pleasant surprise to upgrade after 7 years.

[@ThePrincessPecorine]

​@Acre00 I own one of those laptops. Its the Msi Gt80-2qe. Dual gpu's and weighs a ton.

[@aronetl977]

In reality, this video was filmed 10years ago, and Linus stole a 3090ti and a 4090 from the future.

[@zielscheibchen7773]

10:45 this stutter and others throughout the benchmark can also be watched on single GPU systems. its a software related issue. - when diving on and rotating around the dragon - @around 190seconds - around flying through the tower

[@thequantaleaper]

14 years ago is quite a bit different than 10 years ago...

[@nemonas2019]

exactly, 10 years ago was 1080?

[@slightlyoutofphase4193]

There's no way anyone ever paired these 2010 Xeons with 2014 980 TIs lol, the build makes no sense whatsoever

[@hapeheh7855]

@@slightlyoutofphase4193 welcome to the channel :D

[@scxrlethouse]

@@nemonas2019no

[@Kuson2]

@@nemonas2019 10 years ago was the 900 series, the 10 series wasn't until 2016.

[@hateasuka]

Love when you guys show off old school top of the line tech, and how the industry either went away from it in this case or actually stuck to it

[@rjake333]

I still have this beast, used it for 10 years! It was overclocked to 4.2 with 4x 580's. You needed two people to move the PC it was so heavy. It was an offering so ahead of it's time, particularly when doing Vray renderings with 2x cpus and all those cores. When Vray GPU rendering came out, those quad cards were a blast too, as was rendering videos out of Resolve. A relic no doubt, but so cool and unique.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

Consider using a platform with wheels to move it around, even a skateboard will do.

[@dankvader420]

Wait you can make davinci resolve use multiple GPUs at once?

[@samohraje2433]

What about QPI Link? As it gets faster with overclocking, the overall performance also increases? I have gigabyte X58A-UD5 and my X5690 WHICH IS NOT SUPPORTED by the board manufacturer but it works anyway runs at 4.7GHz. Yup...4.7GHz and it's way faster than my other pc with i7 3770K clocked at the same. The single core performance is actually a bit worse but i have like 10-15fps more on X5690 in GTA 5 or BF5 and actually a better performance in minecraft using RX580 2048SP 8G while my other pc with 3770K using " faster " 1070Ti. And i red somewhere that it is better to use only 3 sticks of RAM rather than using all 6 of them.. if that is true imma sell them and i buy 3x8 instead

[@YepAr-mx2nl]

@@samohraje2433 You are not losing hardly any performance with 6 sticks of ram, also many games will suck on x58 because it doesn't have the avx instruction set, something that cannot be accurately measured by benchmarks unless the game does not support avx. I have used both the 3770k and x58 x58 is great for old games but as soon as you go modern 3770k will start winning.

[@michaelm5203]

Yo this gets me excited. I still dabble with my 5820k oc’d to 4.6ghz. It’s lived at that speed with nearly daily gaming since I bought it. There might be a lot to gain in upgrading but my build is sufficient for what I do currently

[@ash36230]

2014 is 10 years ago? Cursed. I feel a similar conversation coming in time with the Nvidia Titans and Intel extreme editions of the CPUs. Would like to see how a 'future-proof' they were too

[@kevinerbs2778]

That word "future-proof" is a myth as there is no such thing as "future-proof" upgradable yes.

[@Pasi123]

i7-5960X Extreme Edition from 2014 would still do pretty well in modern games when overclocked. In Iceberg Tech's video from last year it was able to get close to or even slightly beat a Ryzen 5 5600X in some games. The R5 5600X being a 6 years newer CPU which you can still buy new today. The i7-5960X does also have all the instruction sets required by newest AAA games

[@mrkang4080]

I built one of these with 580s in SLI in a Mountain Mods case with 6 radiators and 3 pumps... still my favorite build of all time.

[@belmordok3661]

So you must be the builder 😎

[@MartinTheMartian1]

Built this with a mountain mods case and 2 water loops with 3 radiators. So cool.

[@RGSPro]

Back in the day I had a triple 980 Ti setup. That was super fun to build. The micro stutters were what killed the experience. Most powerful single card is just the best way to go. It's really for the best that SLi stopped being supported.

[@loke6664]

Yeah, and it used to be even worse. I don't remember which cards I used for it any more (just that it was Nvidia and top of the line back then) in the early 2000s and if you got a 10% increase in performance, you would be happy. Not worth the money, better cooling and a bit of overclocking gave better performance for far less money. I admit my current build is really dated now, still have a 1080 GFX card but I haven't figured out how to fit a good new card in my pyramid shaped case, the 1080 is already extremely tight and I really like that case. Also, there haven't really been any games lately that wanted me to upgrade. But in a way, I miss the early 2000s with weird builds. My SLI build also ran 4 small SCSI drives raided and that made a bloody difference compared to the regular drives at the time. Funny enough am I still using my old 950W Corsair PSU in my current computer, I tried a modern 650W but it bluescreened now and again in certain games, some of those old PSUs are still good.

[@gamesaccount7614]

I ran dual sli 1080 Ti, then dual sli 2080 ti... I never had any stutters, and had mostly* no issues gaming at 4k resolutions. Only stopped using sli once I upgraded to a 4090 (now that a single card can hit 120hz alone)... and it still worked in a lot of games. You could also manually "add" it to other games, although as time has gone on less and less people are doing that or sharing info around it. Maybe the 980 ti gen and earlier hadn't figured it out, but it was pretty smooth when I used it. * I do remember one time a driver and/or game update created flickering in game, and nvidia disabled sli for that game in the driver for a release or two...

[@loke6664]

@@gamesaccount7614 SLI did get better with time, when it was first introduced it had almost no boost to performance to talk about (that was in the early 2000s). By the end it did increase performance but it is still pretty hard to say it was worth the very high cost. Another huge problem was that it worked fine in some games, poorly in others and not at all in more then a few so depending how well it was coded in the game your performance varied a lot. But sure, if you had a huge amount of money to burn and wanted the best (and there wasn't a good dual card around like the old 295 card for instance) it was a legit thing to do. If you wanted to build a basic computer and add some oomph for it though, it was not the first thing you should do, rather the last for a super high end.

[@yatox8]

Not only was it not affordable for everyone, very little gains.

[@loke6664]

@@jimmer411 No, I don't think anyone ever SLId anything but the best cards. I used 2 7800 GTX cards for instance but the early SLI bridge was not great and the games that supported it gave varying performance, most couldn't code enough to make it worth the while. And yeah, that was in... 2005 I think.

[@TheGamersRace]

It's important to note that actual server hardware of the same variety may function better running a hypervisor and a VM instance of windows, as a straight windows instance might not be able to properly utilize the entirety of each processor. Depends on the hardware, but i assume that this motherboard was optimized for this...hopefully. Edit: i was wrong, it the link was not optimized for this...

[@mccutcheogeoff]

up until 2 years ago i ran a old FX 5990 chip with 2x hd7970. your troubles bring back a lot of memories.

[@elijahlefavour8562]

you think that’s bad, just this year i upgraded from an fx 4300 that i had been holding out on since i got it in 2015. now that i’ve got my new build i feel like i’ve been torturing myself all this time.

[@Kozo-Sushi]

@@elijahlefavour8562 I setup my rig in the basement which stays cold year around and got the FX 4300 OC'd upo to 4.5ghz for years. Finally swapped it out for a Ryzen 8 at 5.5Ghz and it functions as a comfy space heater and can finally run chonky strategy games like TotalWar and Stellaris as smooth as butter. DDR3 to DDR5 is honestly the biggest impact I noticed out of everything.

[@simplerealistic.]

@@elijahlefavour8562 I ditched my FX 4300 in early 2020, I salute your willpower to keep using that god forsaken CPU for that long

[@SEEYAIAYE]

@@elijahlefavour8562 Did you know you can juuuuuuuust run Read Dead Redemption 2 on an i5 3570k and an rx480?

[@Jasonrotfl]

I just upgraded from an fx8350 that over the past year I had to drop from 4.8ghz to 4.2 to keep it stable. I got an i9 on sale and holy shit I had no idea after 11 years on the same build...

[@Shanks9001_]

This is honestly my favorite videos as it shows just how much computer tech and speed has improved.

[@raylopez99]

For gaming. For word processor and even coding (I just learned Rust language) I am using a i5 laptop from 2013 and it works "fine" (though Rust takes a long time to compile, but not too bad for learning).

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

@@raylopez99 I mean, word processing and coding ain't exactly demanding. there's other ways to show how far it has come with 3D rendering and such.

[@raylopez99]

@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd Yeah It's true, though for some commercial compiles I've heard they run the fastest computers all night to compile all the code.

[@dewaldsteyn1306]

Lolz i use a 20 year old laptop for mincecraft. It works great for 1.21. How? I updated its software with v.g.i, a app that i built.

[@dewaldsteyn1306]

​@@raylopez99lol can i buy it? I will give you my 20 year old laptop in return.

[@jonrainbow123]

God i wish LTT could make a video on micro stuttering. Between overlay apps and drivers and the other thousands of reasons these get caused. An in depth guide on how to troubleshoot micro stutter would be massively helpful.

[@blinddarm8478]

Yeah man! I had overpowered high end systems microstuttering in low end games for no reason SO often. Many times DDU driver uninstall and reinstall helped. Sometimes only a fresh Windows install helped, sometimes even that did not help. Once it turned out that a wifi card, that i didnt even use was the cause of stutters. Another time it was the audio driver. In 2024 i feel like everything has enough raw power to game on it, but there seems to be no connection between raw power and the potential to get your games ruined by stutters.

[@jonrainbow123]

@@blinddarm8478 in POE it was the HD audio driver that got installed with my nvidia driver. Causing some kinda issue when loot dropped and it made sound to stutter the game.

[@griffin1366]

Minimal drivers. Minimal background programs (AV / RGB software generally creates the problems) Run fullscreen Make sure the CPU and GPU are pegged at their highest clockspeeds.

[@RevRevoked]

Linus is the gold standard for advertisments in a video. Theyre so quick and well executed. I find myself tempted to buy stuff that I dont need

[@AddyEspresso]

@@RevRevoked comments like this are why linus has employees instead of an ebt card. can't make much content without sponsors and industry relations and honestly hes only gotten better because of them

[@dewaldsteyn1306]

Jiy prjaat njonsies

[@KydrahDemon]

Love seeing the X58 platform getting the spotlight. Still using my x5675. It was a platform ahead of it's time back in the day that has far outlived my expectations.

[@K31TH3R]

I still have an X5675 running in my home NAS, albeit it now runs undervolted and underclocked and far and away from it's previous form of a 4.8GHz water cooled 330W peak power absurdity. You'd have to pry my X58 out of my cold dead hands, it's the most reliable platform I've ever owned, and I have multiple screenshots over the years of the build surpassing year long uptimes and never missing a beat. I had two pieces of excellent X5675 silicon at one point (both 4.8GHz capable chips at 1.4V) while I waited for a good deal on an SR-2, but I did not expect to see the board turn into a collectors item and maintain an often $600+ price tag. Then AM4 came got it's first 32 thread CPU and I gave up on ever finishing an SR-2 build as it no longer made sense from a performance per dollar perspective. I ran my X5675 in my main until 2019, but it's lack of AVX instructions was getting too problematic, and my ASUS Rampage II Extreme was a B13 chipset with a bug in that particular revision that meant it was unable to successfully boot GPUs newer than Vega or Maxwell architectures. Tried to put a Radeon 5700 XT into it and that was the final nail in the coffin when it couldn't boot windows with it installed, and it was on to AM4 for me.

[@cflynn3684]

Still have my dual x5680 super micro x8dti-f with 32gb ddr3 I built used in 2014. Albeit, now it’s not my main system and it’s currently dismantled from case, as my old gtx780 died. Very slow boot up, but great versatile platform with 36 pcie lanes. Was terrific for gaming even in 2017. I even got it to boot on an nvme ssd using clover bootloader as its chipset lacks sata gen3. Uber power hungry though and no AVX 😞. Now I’m also on am4, and similarly I upgraded back in 2019. I spent too much time troubleshooting and replacing power supplies rather than just having fun. Also hot and heavy. My 3900x with 6650xt uses less than half the watts and is more reliable and snappy, and over 2.5x as fast.

[@K31TH3R]

@@cflynn3684 I still run the Xeon with 24GB DDR3 @ 29ns DRAM latency (X58 to this day still has the lowest I/O latency of ANY platform), and I think because of that, I notice no difference in snappiness between my 5800X and the X5675. Interesting that your build is eating PSUs, the PSU currently powering my X58 is a 17 year old Corsair HX620, although in my prior build it was running an Enermax Triathlor 1000W, and I needed just about all of that PSU. Going to AM4 taught me that it's not worth sacrificing comfort for performance, and I don't see myself ever running a 300W+ CPU again. The X58 dumped out so much heat that it made my air conditioning completely irrelevant in the summer. It's not worth it.

[@moardargons8160]

Running Dual X5687s on a Intel 5500 mobo here. 96 GB RAM and GTX 960. It just works. I intend to run it until Windows 10 is no longer supported.

[@dapeguer]

I had a x5650 hooked up with a fan from a broken fridge, directly connected to the outlet. Overcloked at 4.9ghz. Time flies. Makes me think about bf3.

[@Kirsty_McKay]

This video was such great fun. All the little throwbacks, testing old hardware against new & the writing & production value is excellent. Great video guys.

[@tobiasjennerjahn8659]

We're finally getting into the territory where I have a frame of reference for old tech, because it's from a time where I was already actively tinkering with hardware. I already enjoyed these kinds of videos before, but now they're even more exciting for me.

[@lnvfx]

God I remember watching the ORIGINAL review for these products. They still don't even feel that old to me. Hard to believe they're 10+ years old now.

[@EndlessPlane]

Still running an x58 system with an overclocked x5670 as my main rig. It just won't die.

[@r3dhorse]

Mine is a Plex server not but still going strong.

[@kuddel928]

ha, I have similar setup! :D Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R with a x5660 @4.2GHz. Threw in a used 2080Ti in last year, I'm even playing Alyx with this setup. But mostly GTA III currently 😂 I have this "PC" since 2010 (well only the mainboard and the case are still from the original build ^^). Cheers!

[@jschuk865]

My desktop is an Asus Sabertooth x58, with a X5675, 32GB, and a 970GTX. It does what I need it to do, except provide an easy upgrade to Win11. A newer GPU would definitely increase its performance.

[@KydrahDemon]

x5675 here.

[@user-in6te4bt5e]

I started with 920. Now it got xeon nvme and everything. Give it to my mom for video editing. Truly my best investment ever.

[@sarah.dxv3]

10/10 on the nostalgic linus starting to go back in their real work

[@NathanDoesTech]

Linus is slowly aging into looking like ellen degenerous

[@cdjwmusic]

I forgot 10 years ago was 20q4 and not 2007. Wasnt expectong quad 980s

[@doppelkloppe]

I fully expected 580s. We're getting old.

[@servissop151]

​@@doppelkloppeI was expecting Core 2 Duo era shit

[@kady5991]

I thought he was going to dig out the Skulltrail platform again. Didn’t realize we’re at 1366 now 10 years ago

[@itIsI988]

@@kady5991 2011-v3 was almost 10 years ago. 1366 was more like 14 years ago.

[@VioletDragonsProjects]

I used this exact motherboard to build my sister a hackintosh back in the day. Was running 10.8.5 then upgraded it to 10.9.5. Was used for video editing. Bob Roche also used the same motherboard for a hackintosh.

[@Madrrrrrrrrrrr]

I have a mac pro 5,1 and loads of hackintoshes but this board platform reminds me of the mac pro 5,1 which i have a x5690 for i need to install. I think the bottleneck is not only the CPU but also the pci bus which, if i'm correct, also runs on pci e 2.0 speeds. And if i'm correct about this board being close to the Mac pro 5,1 there will only 1 pci e 16 slot and the rest runs with 8,4, and 1 lanes. Which explains why you only get around 1,5 times fps speed of are normal 1 980ti.

[@Madrrrrrrrrrrr]

Oops just found the pci speeds. 4x PCI-E 2.0 x16 @ x16 and 3x PCI-E 2.0 x16 @ x8 Don't know if you need to select these speeds per pcie slot.

[@ariyanwasi5609]

i fell thrown back 5 years, just came back from school. Theres a video from the pc guy, life is good.

[@schlomonoseberginterracial3906]

* feel

[@warrax111]

@@schlomonoseberginterracial3906 *the school

[@11jr111]

I'm still rocking this setup from more than 10Y ago. It's been a rock star. It's also built with the EVGA 1200W and I've upgraded the RAID set on it a few times. I definitely love that I haven't had to "fork lift" replace my main workstation PC at home in that time. For me it was well worth the investment. Too bad I can't post picture here, otherwise I'd post my build in the comment. She's been running 24-7 for the last 10 years, very impressed. Thanks Linus for bringing back this great board in your channel.

[@aidanjarosgrilli]

cool you could make a short video and post it to your channel

[@Chacharson]

​@@aidanjarosgrilli or just post a link to photo

[@Lynn.-_-.]

Or post it in your community posts

[@user-ty2uz4gb7v]

Or we could all just come to your house

[@Joreg_Catapang]

The thumbnail and the video really brings back 2017 to 2018 linus tech tips

[@danwhite3224]

Up until a few years ago I was actually running a dual socket LGA 1366 system! Not using this motherboard as I couldnt find one for sale, but instead I was using a Lenovo mobo. Wanted to go dual X5690s (I already had one from my previous system) but it didn't support it so I had to settle for two X5675s instead. Still absolutely ripped, with 40GB ECC RAM and a 980Ti.

[@SteryotH19]

Was that Gru around 8:21?

[@mattdillon8958]

@@SteryotH19 my brain could not comprehend it as anything else until I slowed down the video to .25 speed

[@Hopgop1]

These are my favourite videos you do, this sort of stuff was what made PCs so exciting to me when I first started watching your channel, watching Linus play around with crazy hardware I'd never get my hands on.

[@denvera1g1]

20:21 As someone who had one of these borads, and still has a dual X5690. One thing you can do to help, and i know its going to be a pain, but locking the game to whichever CPU controls that GPU and then moving all of the background tasks like steam, windows telemetry, over to the other CPU

[@TheNiteNinja19]

I have an EVGA hybrid 980 TI, and it was still in service until last year. Overclocked it to 1,440 mhz, stuck it into my cousin's computer, and it lived there for about 6 years as a daily driver gaming card.

[@shimotsuki96]

12:28 that card fans be like : like someone half blinking his eyes

[@DjBlacid]

we loved the throwback to sli and overclocking but i think linus loved it even more haha

[@dewaldsteyn1306]

Njie ekke njie. Wii gjee om oojr ou tjegnologei

[@ZachryMedearis]

Seeing you do this on Windows 7 with aero just makes me think back to a simpler time when going on the computer was fun and not inconsistent UI, oversimplified, flat garbage that requires a Microsoft Account and telemetry

[@alrightvibe506]

I had one of these briefly, ran with 1 xeon for a while, purchased a second and shipped it to albania without testing. Took 2 weeks to realise that the CPU in slot 0 has to have a lower serial number than the CPU in slot 1, because... reasons... Cool to see, always loved these boards.

[@Kyle-xv5kv]

You guys should do more stuff like this, its fun seeing old hardware doing mad stuff again.

[@redbaronlast]

Im still gaming on an ASUS WS Revolution motherboard with an overclocked Xeon w3690 (the single cpu version of the x5690) @4.4 GHz, 12 gb ddr3 , and a GTX 1070Ti. For a system I bought cheaply used, 13 years ago!, it is still doing pretty good. Fortnite, rdr2 , gta 5, Skyrim runs like very acceptable in 1080p, mostly with high details.

[@Tracy-hx5xx]

Ya alot of older hardware works fine nowadays got to cut back on tech waste.

[@DARKthenoble]

Don't forget to replace your capacitors.

[@dangingerich2559]

I remember back in those days, I had a Core i7 920 that did 4.2GHz pretty easily. The hitch was that using 3 channels of DDR3 over 1333 would not operate in triple channel mode, but use dual channel for 4GB of memory and then single channel for the last 2GB.

[@Pasi123]

I was on a X5670 6c/12t @ 4.4GHz with 24GB (6x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz until November last year. My first LGA1366 CPU was a Xeon W3520 (same as i7-920) in 2013-2016 but that was on a OEM X58 motherboard that wasn't capable of BCLK overclocking

[@EnclaveDesigns]

Awesome! I had the 980ti and those same vengence ram sticks in my first build from 2015, so cool to see these tested here!

[@CompMeistR]

From what I understand, the 1080TI was actually the last 4x SLI card.

[@guyknightley3499]

It was and 4 1080 TIs in testing is faster than one 4090. Like always these guys just rush to do everything and dont look stuff up. lol

[@gonzoblue1206]

while it is possible to do 4 way sli with 1080 ti. only 2 way is inspec

[@tstuff1213]

It was possible but not stable in games and not optimized. Older cards were better optomized and ran far smoother because of more devoloped drivers. So for a use of a fast amount of games this probably was the better option

[@Reac2]

Wasn't the point that the 980ti existed around when this board came out? 1080 would've been chronologically too late

[@CompMeistR]

@@Reac2 the SR2 was released in 2010, as it uses the old 1366 socket, so age shouldn't be the reason. It may be down to needing to modify drivers to get 4x 1080ti working, as others have mentioned

[@StephenOwen]

I really love this video! I’ve been having a blast buying four or five year old computers for my kids and giving them upgrades every other year or so! It feels like a huge performance jump. Every time they get an upgrade, and then learning all about computers in the fun of installing drivers and troubleshooting failures. I’m not raising any tablet kids in this household. Lol but I think really a lot of people discount how much power you can get for a humongous bargain if you just buy CPUs motherboards that are four years old.

[@bassx101]

True at around 4th gen and later a top end i7 can still hold Its own for the most part for several generations/iterations thereafter.

[@zerocal76]

You're one of the real cool dads man, very nice. You should introduce them to some basic 3D modeling and retro game emulation 😎

[@pratyushsomani4920]

Shaved Linus looks wrong

[@YazTheGamer169]

Yeah I think so 😅

[@electricant55]

Nah beard Linus did

[@Sliced3D3]

Man, he should have kept the old hair.

[@Jimmyvb98]

I'm probably one of the few who thinks he looks better without, it just makes him look younger

[@asiano3385]

He looks modern. Beard people look a bit homeless, old school and like living in a stone age to me. But opinions are just relative so it does not matter.

[@Photon02]

Deep dives into old tech are awesome!! please do more of these, i would even like to see some videos on retro computers.

[@youdontknowme5969]

16:35 I'm so going to start doing that to people at work now. 😉 Thank you Colin!

[@Grady_OBS]

As someone who had the Xeon x5670, and the x5650, you can overclock those to 4.4 with no issue. I’ve had my x5670 up to 4.6 with zero issue

[@erg_ot]

I this generation for a while - couldn't afford an SR-2, but I picked up an EVGA X58 SLI-based system in 2015 for $100. Swapped the slowpoke i7 920 for a $50 W3690 (same CPU as the X5690's here, but lacking multi-CPU support / extended RAM support) and ran it at 4.5ghz for ~3 years on WC (OTT 480mm custom loop from previous owner - never went above 50c) as a gaming computer and 4.2ghz with a lower-profile air cooler for another 2 years 24/7 as a homelab. Incredible architecture. Great system, really, really competitive performance.

[@AsherHayes-m5n]

Crysis 2 6:27 Unigene Heaven Benchmark 4.0 9:56 Crysis 2 11:09 BioShock Infinite 12:00 Titanfall 2 12:55 Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order 13:48 Shadow of the Tomb Raider 14:40 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 15:01 Crysis 2 16:12 Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 17:22 Titanfall 2 18:00 Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order 19:06

[@egerdion7932]

Me realizing 10 years ago was 2014 not 2010 💀

[@PrograError]

COVID era is a hell of a beer googles

[@GameTimeWhy]

Oh shit you right.

[@electricant55]

I thought more like 2008 I feel ancient

[@AffectionateLocomotive]

Me too

[@AffectionateLocomotive]

For some reason. Its was 2013 though

[@MitchDenham]

I think Colin is the best addition to the LMG team in a while. Always adds value to everything he's in.

[@thomasb1521]

And we've got the intro as well, this video is so great. Although you could have used the old intro but j still love both.

[@TheRealCheckmate]

I built my last box about 10-12 years ago with a high-end MB from Asus, 32 Gb RAM, etc, etc, and I've been using it literally every day ever since with Windows 7. It's stable as hell and only sleeps when I do. I keep thinking I should build a replacement before I _need_ to build a replacement, but I refuse to downgrade to a later version of Windows, so for now, it's pointless unless I want to learn Linux or something.

[@Miltiadis_Vouzounaras]

For setups like this, it's interesting to see productivity benchmark suite (like blender) and the scaling on them!

[@InternetInMemoriam]

Oh boy, I had one of these, water cooled xeons , with 3 660ti's in 3 way sli. The GPUs were air cooled but I eventually upgraded to.... a Titan with a water block... i know... the project was a huge money and time sink but i loved that thing to death. If I'm not mistaken, only frozencpu had compatible parts and it took a bit of time to source the blocks for the socket. i should note, i did this a few years after release, and the price dropped hard.

[@username8644]

Dream build. Those days of pc building were so much more interesting than it is now.

[@noiamhippyman]

If you look closely at the beginning you’ll notice that Linus is not actually wearing a watch. It’s actually drawn onto his wrist to appear as though he is wearing a watch.

[@joec7130]

I bought my setup in 2013 for $1500, the only thing ive upgraded was my GPU in 2018. can still run todays games pretty decently with medium graphics settings averaging 30-45 fps. Not amazing by any means, but still works as it should for gaming.

[@jmass4207]

@@joec7130 Makes me laugh at the doom and gloom about how the 4090 or whatever will simply not play games in a few years, then you see them admit a few comments down that their standards are 120 fps+ 4k ultra settings.

[@GTRdeamon]

Ah i remember this. The pinical of X58 running with two 6 core Xeons in it. Was X58 at it finest and overclockable as well. What comes closets to this i can think of, must be intels own Skulltrail for LGA 775.

[@JonsComputers]

Man We Need more videos like this now days

[@PrimRoseLane]

I ran that board once upon a time.. twin E-5620's, Single GTX 590 (Had plans for more but got my power bill) Corsair 1200w power supply(Case had room for 2 power supplies... Mountain Mods Extended Ascension case) and.. I forget how much RAM but windoze would not detect all of it. I left out things I did not want like Bluetooth/wifi but made sure I could use DVD/Blueray. USB cabling in that case was a nightmare. Ahhh nostalgia. I want to say 2011 was when I was first putting it together? 10 120mm fans, and for cooling used Thermo-Electric coolers. I still have the case in use as an end table.

[@vectro73]

The main issue of this system is 2 CPUs. According to other videos featuring double xeons in gaming, it is always huge performance drop when dealing with usage of 2 CPUs. I was expecting a try to limit the CPU to one physical and see how it might help

[@Ransomwave]

I love the little throwbacks you guys did for this video, It's really cool to see the intro again hahah

[@boxxer3358]

so i own a omen 25L its my 1st game pc its all default im wondering what would you put into it id like to keep it just upgrade parts and fans id like your insight on that along with dogging on me for still having this thing but so far i haven't had any problems with it its just i know i will need to do some upgrades to it any help would be awesome i dont know anyone with a omen 25L

[@SignalPrime]

My main rig is an X99 Classified! It's still pretty good, despite the age, though I probably don't know what I'm missing at this point lol. This video gives me serious nostalgia remembering building this thing piece by piece, saving as much money as I could in an attempt to "future proof" (it was my first gaming PC). I also built it with a 980 Ti that a friend gave me as payment for building his new system with a Fury X. This thing has carried me through a lot.

[@belmordok3661]

So you must be the builder 😎

[@andres5709]

this video warmed my heart, thank you.

[@FistFullofFrags]

This is insane. My pc is 10 years old, I have a Intel Pentium j2900 at 2.41ghz and it isn't even exchangeable and I also have only 8gb of ram, that is the maximum ram possible. All I can play is Fistful of Frags, Gmod (At low fps with minimal mods installed), Fallout NV (At 20fps) and Half life 2 (At 15fps). And all this is with random frame drops due to the bad CPU.

[@Ari.Atland]

Old linus covering old stuff. Linus is returning to his roots.

[@TheTornvidia]

That was awesome! Thank you Linus and thanks to your team, you have done a great job! Maybe next you can test Ati Quadfire HD5970)))? I know its way older then 980ti, but it was a monster the date it was released!

[@SaHa0v0]

I miss EVGA...

[@BlvckFacez]

Only 1 like in 1 month...😭😭😭😭no one cares about evga

[@jimmylim5015]

I do I've had gtx 960, 970, 980, 1070, and 1080 ti from them they need to come back...

[@lukeyduke6733]

“All we’re learning is the 980ti is really good”

[@teeing9355]

Cool to see videos with older equipment.

[@AlbertBergen]

Not done watching it, but this is the best video you've done in ages. More of this, please.

[@north.]

0:40 I was ready to click right arrow key as soon as I saw a clock I thought it was a sponsor 😭

[@fegeleinassh0le554]

Same

[@GoosyGoober]

Fr

[@kh_trendy]

19:14 I was rocking a 980 ti in my rig for years. It's about on par with a GTX 1070. It won't blow your socks off, but it's all a decent card for 1080p.

[@kchymet]

I was just getting started building PCs when the SR-2 came out and it was the center of every theory-crafted build at the time. Now I just feel old. And $10k goes a lot farther today. Thanks LTT

[@stoffes]

this is why ive subscribing to dis channel , these back storys old high tech gaming is so fun!

[@kenm4116]

This tip really helped me.

[@Mortalomena]

I have a 10 year old i7 - 3770 PC with 24 gigs of DDR3 1600mhz (2 x 8 gig sticks didnt work for some reason) which I threw a 4070 Super into and it works quite well, doubled my FPS and can play 4k streams now too. I used to have AMD R390 and it couldnt handle 4k or 3 monitors. I can crank everything to ultra and cap FPS to like 144 and the CPU bottleneck doesnt cause any hiccups. Ofcourse I will upgrade rest system later on, but wanted to see if only GPU upgrade would work, which it did. Many games are still GPU bound.

[@xymos7807]

Am I an idiot? The choppiness aside...I thought it held pretty well. Guess I'm use to lower framerates, I don't lose my mind with it.

[@YaBoiJohannesburger]

3:11 *UH LIDDLE BIT SPOTTY* 😬👋