How Big Business Broke Recycling (And Blamed You)

[@TheMorningStar61116]

I'm so glad PBS is making these videos to inform the public. I hope they cover how industries send microplastic contaminated wastewater to local wastewater treatment plants that are not designed to filter it, allowing for microplastics to go back into the environment and passing the financial responsibility to fix it onto the public.

[@Beardqt]

that was a fun start and then the more i read the worse it got, i really hope this is all fixable

[@maximumking6461]

Not without some heads that shall roll...

[@everythingpony]

Are they pbs?

[@HoneyBadger80886]

Keep Shining the Light

[@GhostScout42]

its incredibly easy for waste water plants to remove microplastic

[@freeguy3751]

Nailed it with this one line: "it's cheaper for companies to make more plastic than to recycle it" = all about the bottom line💰

[@mk1st]

The free market always makes the right choice….for the market.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

It's consumers making that choice.

[@anthonydelfino6171]

@@Robert-cu9bm uh huh... and tell me. When was the last time you saw shampoo available to purchase in a glass/metal/cardboard container? Just using that as one example, but it's not consumer choice when there is no choice.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

@@anthonydelfino6171 They do, they chose the cheapest product in plastic which forced the others to move away from expensive packaging, otherwise they'd have no business.

[@anthonydelfino6171]

@@Robert-cu9bm and that happened what? 50? 60 years ago? consumers TODAY don’t have choices

[@pcoristi]

Also, can we talk about the right to repair? I'm getting tired of throwing out appliances because there's no one able to fix them -- for lack of parts, lack of knowledge, lack of accessibility to the area of the appliance that needs fixing. I'm SICK of throwing out toasters and kettles cuz no one can fix them. I've kept an dehumidifier running for over 15 years because I can take it apart and clean it but I can't with the new one we bought recently

[@Beardqt]

you can't even buy rebuild kits for new cheap push mowers, you just buy a whole new carb for 20$ lol, solid half pound of useless plastic

[@francismarion6400]

It's all disposable including ev's.

[@geekcollage]

I love taking my electronics apart and cleaning them. It's the only thing that gets me to vacuum.

[@klowen7778]

I hear 'ya, though doesn't help when the bulk of stuff is manufactured overseas, where environmental regs are non-existent, and the labor & materials to make new ones are often cheaper than the repair.

[@LaSpastica90]

Yes! Some tiny part of an appliance breaks and you have to buy a whole new one. It’s wasteful and infuriating. The hot plate on my coffee pot rusted through. It took me forever to find a metal disc that would fit. And when I did, I laughed maniacally at my success.

[@nuhou8087]

I'm glad to see PBS using the correct framing, which is that this is a problem of production and not one that end-users must take responsibility for individually as you often hear and read in most mainstream media and literature. And it's just wrong that taxpayers are footing the bill for recycling in the form of city-operated recycling centers.

[@hanzzarkov7690]

Amen.

[@MrJacksspleen]

Confirmation bias. Expect nothing less from PBS.

[@bakrantz]

I am sorry but do paper aluminum and glass not recycle. Because as far as I can tell those items do recycle quite well. It is just the plastic that is causing major problems. So municipal recycling programs do yield a net positive.

[@SeattlePioneer]

[@erezra]

One of the best explainer videos for this issue. I worked as an engineer with plastics for more than 20 years and we avoided recycled plastics because they are so inferior. The motto Reduce, Reuse, Recycle is in descending order meaning we should focus on reducing first and then reusing and use recycling only as a last option because there re so many issues with it. This video shows this wonderfully!

[@pbsterra]

Thanks so much!

[@dertythegrower]

Also, kids being sold recycled needles for their lining of juice boxes.. thats just one contamination of 1000s from recycled plastic and pfas.

[@luck484]

I am not saying this view is incorrect, and it feels like an engineering perspective on the issue. The order Reduce, Reuse, Recycle also represents a descending order of control by engineers. Reduce is better engineered materials, a high level of control. Reuse shifts control to post market. Recycle intends to create a marketplace for used up material, or post reused. I don't have and answers or recommendations for what might work and the way the plastic lifecycle exists now does not work. That being said plastic still seems like a net gain for humankind. It's the waste that is an issue and I mean almost all waste.

[@petereckels2724]

Yes, "Reduce, reuse, recycle" implies that of these, reduce is the best option. But the issue is that it implies that recycle is a viable option, not much worse that the others. For wastes that have already been minimized and reused as much as possible, recycling what is left is great. But there's a sharp drop off in efficacy at each step. As a kid, I thought these were all close to equivalent. Seeing what is presented to kids today, it still feels that way. It's not... even if everything gets recycled, it's still far better to reduce waste or reuse containers rather than relying on recycling.

[@James-kv6kb]

Sadly yet again the United states is stopping the rest of the world from advancing

[@kanderson-oo7us]

Unintended consequences: when my community banned single use plastic bags, the grocery stores started using HEAVIER plastic bags that claim they can be re-used hundreds of times. So they're using MORE plastic in each bag - almost all of which are still thrown out.

[@violetdusk1968]

colorado has banned single use plastic bags. we are now using paper bags for 10 cents or reusable bags you bring yourself.

[@SteveAubrey1762]

We the People must ALWAYS be on guard against sneaky corporations, like the ones you just described.Good on you for being vigilant and aware and posting the warning. We All should refuse disposable packaging and bags. Every little bit helps. Every person matters.

[@wiktorszymczak4760]

Oh my god same in Poland. New bags are like 3 times thicker but the heat seam keeping loops togheter disintegrate after 4th use

[@svetochmira9994]

I usually carry a reusable fabric bag in hip pocket, or in shoulder bag, its really useful to have around. And single use bags and packaging should be banned, especially in USA, since many countries still look at USA as an example.

[@sirearlgrey2036]

Since NY banned single-use plastic bags, I've been using either reusable bags or getting paper bags. Or for small trips where I get like 2 or 3 items, no bag. I honestly think those small trips are where the biggest difference has been made. Pre-ban, you would end up with 1-3 plastic bags depending on what the items were. They wouldn't even ask if you wanted them bagged half the time and I doubt many people thought about it. A full-size paper bag feels like way too much for just a few items so I'd imagine a lot of other people also skip getting a bag now.

[@clutchyfinger]

We need to stop using words like "lobbied". It's bribes.

[@andrewzcolvin]

Does it matter? The outcome is what matters.

[@onorebakasama]

​@andrewzcolvin It does matter. When we call it "lobbying", it sounds more acceptable; however, a "bribe" is considered morally reprehensible to most people.

[@themelancholyofgay3543]

i don't even know what lobbied means,

[@beans6751]

​@@themelancholyofgay3543Lobbying is "legally" bribing politicians. Like "Don't vote for this bill and I'll donate some money to your organization"

[@RiskyStrats]

​@@themelancholyofgay3543 lobbying is the attempt to influence the decisions of the government. YOU can lobby! For example, by calling your representative about your worries regarding the current state of recycling. However, a lobbying attempt made by a big corporation tends to carry more weight especially if, let's say, said corporation just HAPPENS to also make regular donations to a "charity" organisation the politician they are lobbying to is invested in. It's pretty scummy and gives the rich more influence over political decisions by, as the original poster said, essentially bribing politicians

[@elinope4745]

I liked the glass bottle days. I remember some people would do glass blowing with some of the old bottles, made some neat stuff.

[@artikdegil]

Glass seems like a better option to everybody but in fact it releases more carbon dioxide than plastic. The benefit that glass provides is that you can use it without worrying about microplastics but it is more harmful if you dont use it more than once

[@tylergibson1177]

The companies that lied should be held accountable for fixing the monster they made.

[@cat3crazy]

The companies responsible, have made so much money on producing & using plastic, that they don't want to change. With this money, they can lobby and pay politicians to turn down any laws that make them change.

[@NeighborhoodOfBlue]

And they cannot be allowed to dictate how that happens, which is what they are currently lobbying to do.

[@andrewzcolvin]

By who? The government they control?

[@PeterShipley1]

the people who pushed this on to The public retired with their millions of dollars in corporate bonuses decades ago.

[@JWRame]

What a naive statement. You still think the system works? It's designed so that they are never accountable.

[@sunalwaysshinesonTVs]

"Socialism for the rich. Rugged individualism for the rest of us."

[@migueluribe4249]

Nothing to do with socialism. This is pure fascism. The union of government and corporations. The far right, the billionaires.

[@StephenGangi]

💯

[@l.c.3150]

We need to exert more pressure on the politicians to do right by citizens and not for corporations.

[@bobyoung1698]

One of plastic's biggest investments isn't R&D or manufacturing. It's Congress.

[@zeroshepard9513]

Congress works for big business. Ive manufactured, worked retail, and now I drive freight. It is hilarious the companies telle consumers not to use plastic. They individually wrap socks. They wrap things in the factory to keep dust off. They wrap the individual socks in larger bags, then tape them(more plastic) put them in card board, tape them again and saran wrap them into oblivion to attach them to pallets( all of which require mass deforestation), then they send em to the retailers distribution center, who un wraps them, sorts them and then saran wraps them to their pallets. Then if they dont use them all they re wrap them, or if they dont sell, they put them in plastic garbage bags and throw them in a compactor. Did I mention the socks are made out of plastic or have plastic content?

[@gooser__43]

​@zeroshepard9513 socks! I can't find 60 per cent cotton socks; they just make 100 per cent polyester, petroleum socks and say they wick moisture. Low quality petroleum socks.

[@Jonas-Seiler]

@@Rubicola174 that may be true, but the price certainly is somewhat proportional to the service. it may not cost that much to get the draft for a new law, but it’ll cost a bit more (still not that much more considering the severity) to be able to write that draft yourself (which is literally how most laws are created, draft put on desk of committee by corporate employed lobbyist, presented to parliament as is, most likely passed without discussion, probably with a good portion of bought votes)

[@zeroshepard9513]

@gooser__43 Wool is actually good in hot and cold if you get a midweight with high wool content. Some brands are even USA made. Pricey, but I tried going back to cotton and decided wool was the cats pajamas... well, the sheep's.

[@gooser__43]

@@zeroshepard9513 thanks

[@spacecaptain9188]

Banning "single use" plastic bags is still putting the burden on the consumer, not businesses. All of the products we buy are still wrapped in plastic! Plastic bottles, plastic wrappers, plastic bags inside of cardboard boxes, and plastic liners inside of metal cans. Even Produce is often packaged in plastic for no better reason than to force you to buy 2 peppers or potatoes, or whatever, instead of 1! And the city still forces us to wrap our trash in plastic bags before throwing it out, which not only creates more plastic trash, it prevents our biodegradables from biodegrading!

[@edolezel87]

In our town we don’t have standard garbage bins we have to pick up orange bags from town hall and put our plastic garbage bags full of garbage inside them 🙄

[@perkytxgirl]

Plastic bag 'recycling' is the latest scam in this story. Plastic bag bins are at every grocery store but 90% of bags put in those bins end up in landfills or incinerators. 10 % end up at recycling plants that theoretically recycle them but probably not.

[@dertythegrower]

You can pack them and make park benches and chairs, etc... and it looks decent kind of like a tiedye but inside the compressed plastic

[@francismarion6400]

The plastic bags were the only safe option during the Covid pandemic though.

[@NeighborhoodOfBlue]

@@francismarion6400 Nope. Paper works just fine.

[@francismarion6400]

@@NeighborhoodOfBlue Paper wasn't an option. The tree huggers took that out.

[@growtocycle6992]

What do you think happens to paper and cardboard "recycling"?? 🤣

[@Holmesy87]

The fact that this only has 274k views is an utter disgrace. This video should be being played on news outlets, school, yt front page, absolutely everywhere. The guilt of recycling shouldn't be on me, it should be in the massive corporations making it in the first place, and govts that allow it.

[@Kiraiko44]

I'll try to find the article because I can't remember which university it was (not a huge one but a pretty big one) where student news staff basically discovered that the school's recycling program was a scam. The state had essentially rolled out an incentive program encouraging schools to recycle more and gave the ones that signed up a bunch of green trash cans and money to get a recycling program started. This university had taken the money, put out the trashcans, made a big deal about to the student body and I wanna say even fined them if they were caught misusing the recycling cans by throwing away regular trash in them, but never actually did anything to implement a recycling program. All the trash went to the same place. They just pocketed the money.

[@SilvaDreams]

​@gedelgo3242 Even when things are recycled" most of the time it is sold to China to recycle the plastics and most of that is just dumped in the ocean once they are out at sea because there is no profit to recycling it. Less than a quarter of plastics are even recyclable and the profits are slim at best so they just keep what can be used.

[@salvatronprime9882]

@@gedelgo3242 hahaah that's awesome I want a trash bin like that for my house lol

[@kanderson-oo7us]

​@@gedelgo3242 All of those that I've seen have a divided bin under the lid. Look into it before you jump to conclusions

[@oryxthemad]

that article wasn't from my school but I've seen janitors at my school dump the recyclables into the same trash cart as the trash, with no separation.

[@evalawler4524]

Exxon's net profit in 2019 was $14.34 billion. They committed $1.5 million that year to the Recycling Partnership - less than 1 percent of their net profit. The CEO made $23.5 million in 2019.

[@ragingrevenge1]

Ohhhhh corporations bad!!!! Try blaming your elected officials, they pass the laws that make it possible.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

The lack of reuse is sad. When I was in college, we'd take weekend trips to Mexico, buy beer direct from the breweries, and they'd come in glass bottles that had *VERY* clearly been through the bottling machine dozens or hundreds of times, just getting thoroughly cleaned between reuse. Rather than breaking them down and remelting them into new bottles. The breweries even gave you a ton of money to bring back the bottles - more than half the total price to buy! Thankfully, we are starting to see a return to actual reusability. In my town, it's common to be able to get beer in "growlers" that you fill at the brewpub, take home, and fill your cup from; then you just rinse it and refill it on your next trip. Even my local sports stadium has moved to reusable drink cups. Instead of throwing away tens of thousands of cups per game, they have collection containers for the reusable cups next to the trash cans so they wash and reuse them game after game. (I'm sure many get thrown in the trash, I don't see on their website if they actually dig through the trash for them, or if they're just considered lost.)

[@tamisheiffer8568]

It's still that way in Germany. Buy a case of beer, and you can tell the bottles have been reused (old adhesive lines from where the old labels were removed). Returning the bottles for deposit (pfand) is a big deal (even though it's a small amount per bottle).

[@HotMudrs]

Some local dairies do this with big glass milk jugs. Its also not the ultra filtered watery milk either.

[@eddapultstab2078]

​@@HotMudrsin California their are some milk companies that are now selling milk in glass jars. There's a three dollar deposit, incase the bottle is not returned, but you get it back or vouched for the next bottle.

[@lizwaters4066]

I remember when we got milk delivered every day in glass bottles. We also had soda delivery once per week, in reusable glass bottles. We had boxes by the back door where we left the empties and where the new bottles were left for us.

[@davedaves3489]

Most of the people in these comments are children so they wont remember that. Yes it was nice but was it sanitary ?

[@KJSvitko]

Tax plastic manufacturers to pay for cleaning up the mess they created.

[@dertythegrower]

They blame the companies buying it, as they cannot make an end user NOT just toss it around. So now we get taxed every piece of plastic we temporarily use..

[@mariofix]

They will just give the tax to the consumers

[@geoffnaylor3734]

@@mariofixright but that price signal would give an opportunity for alternatives to step in because they wouldn’t have the marginal cost of plastic in their price

[@charliespeegleokliving8595]

Yes. Manufacturers should pay a recycling tax when they sell products. That recycling tax should be based on what it would cost to dispose/recycle after it is no longer in use. This would encourage manufacturers to create products that cost less to recycle..

[@TheDanEdwards]

" manufacturers to pay for cleaning up the mess they created" - This video, and your comment, are just an attempt to make people feel better. It's always "they/them/their" problem. In case you don't realize it, you are part of the problem.

[@timsmith5950]

I worked in metal recycling for about 5 years, after working cleaning up hazardous waste sites for over 11 years. I was shocked at how greenwashed recycling has been indoctrinated into our vocabulary as this clean green industry It's not! Take a look at your cars, school busses, washing machines, lawn mowers, airplanes etc, with all the plastic, rubber, vinyl, cloth, insulation etc, everything non metal and while yes the metal itself can be forever recycled think about where all the non metal ends up, multiply that with the consumption based American Dream and well can we admit that perhaps we have a consumption crisis of epic proportion that needs to be addressed!!

[@opossumboyo]

Grew up with Nova science; your documentaries on the world inspired me to enter the field of environmental science. Watching Terra content now is a bittersweet experience because of the direction we’ve gone, but I cannot thank you enough for continuing to make the material that you do, and focusing on the reality of the situation we find ourselves in. PBS is the premier educational platform of our nation.

[@MarcusRefusius]

I was a Garbo for 25 years. My partner and I serviced the trash Contracts for Sequoia/Kings Canyon National Parks and Sequoia National Forest. Plus the Town of Three Rivers and the Army Corps of engineers Terminus Dam We had our Diversion (recycling) numbers up to 80% at one point and then the County(s) decided their Landfills weren’t making enough money and stopped us from taking loads to the MRF. (Materials Recycling Facility) It’s all about $$$$$. From every angle. Damned if we do and damned if we don’t. “Satisfaction Guaranteed or double your Trash Back”

[@brooklynnchick]

What? Big corporations aren’t working for the public interest?? OMG 😱 how shocking.

[@stellviahohenheim]

But what a truly evil geniuses the corporations are, instead of cleaning up their own mess they push that responsibility towards their customers "If there's mountains of plastic garbage everywhere it's your fault because you haven't been recycling enough!" I would like to meet the guy who came up with this idea AND TELL THE WHOLE WORLD IT'S THIS GUYS FAULT SEA TURLES ARE CHOCKING ON PLASTIC!

[@PunkDogCreations]

No need to blasphemy.

[@brooklynnchick]

@@PunkDogCreations 💕 You are 100% correct. That’s why I spell it with a “gosh”; be careful with your assumptions.💕

[@gamtngirl3655]

Such sobering, important and crucial information. Thank you, PBS Terra. Making changes starting now.

[@tetchuma]

I remember in the ‘90’s. “Switch to plastic to save the rainforests!” (We weren’t told plastic was made of petroleum) So society switched. Now we have a plastic pollution problem, and big plastic is now advertising “we’re devoting (insert fraction of a percent of their annual profit) I doubt anything will get done in my lifetime

[@kanderson-oo7us]

Who ever told you plastic would save the rainforests? I was around in the 90s and no one claimed that. And yes, we knew plastic was from oil. Plastic was lightweight & cheap.

[@coolestdude11111]

It goes reduce, reuse and lastly recycle in order of importance. The first two are more important than recycling. We mainly focus on recycling while ignoring reducing consumption or reusing when possible. That’s the way I was taught in school too.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

One amazing factoid about aluminum - we know how much "ever produced" is still in use because the use of aluminum is *REALLY* recent. It wasn't until the 1880s that Aluminum production became cheap. Before that, aluminum was often more expensive than gold! (The top of the Washington monument is aluminum because it was "a fancy expensive metal" at the time of its construction! And at the time, at about 7 pounds, it was the largest ever cast aluminum object.)

[@luck484]

An answer of "widespread regulation of the plastics industry" which includes a ban on single use plastic seems to simply ignore reality. It seems like regulatory control of the industry regulated by the industry is a significant problem not addressed. A regulatory body becomes a target to be captured.

[@umwhatthistime]

Big business has broken the planet.

[@yvan2563]

Money broke everything, greed just made it worse.

[@dertythegrower]

Corpocracy

[@dertythegrower]

Salt was originally a salary and money. So you are blaming your salary and salt... yvan, greed is the primary goal of corporations, by their own laws.

[@yvan2563]

@@dertythegrower And money bought those laws, so back to square one for the root of evil.

[@SocietyNeedsImprovement]

No, it's the economic profit system that's to blame, not big businesses. Businesses have to compete for market share. It's not in their best interest to recycle.

[@Aaahahahahahaha]

I've never seen such a succinct video about the issues with recycling, thank you so much, I'm going to recommend this to people.

[@RussellFineArt]

I'm all in favor of long-term plastics for car bumpers, appliances, tools, etc., but we really need to eliminate single-use plastics in favor of bamboo, hemp and other plant materials, and also use permanent steel mugs and recycled paper.

[@Brian-gx3rj]

These long-term plastics are the ones dragging down this 9% recycling rate. The 9% not only includes what goes in our blue bins, but uses all plastics ever manufactured as the denominator. PBS's early example of yogurt container is misleading because HDPE containers are highly valuable because they are so easy to recycle with a recycling rate of 29% (2018 epa study). Still not great but there are so many parts of the US that still dont have reasonable access to recycling. Don't get me wrong, single-use items are downright silly when there is reusable alternative.

[@Kalleosini]

agreed that is the purpose plastic should have. although recycled/degraded plastic aren't suitable for these things. so we'd need to find a place for that stuff as well

[@chaosgamer016_5]

Don't forget about glass botles they are an none polutant material and is 100% recycled also in some countryes you get an dicunt if you return them for an new batch of bevrege

[@Gearsandoil]

The people don’t care.

[@guyman1570]

Bamboo is NOT recyclable nor is it actually compostable. Just reminding you of this misconception.

[@FidoHouse]

"How and why [the plastic items] were made in the first place truly the key question. Great video. Thank you.

[@pascalbro7524]

3:11 another thing people do not consider is the fact that aluminum cans? Yeah, they're lined in plastic.

[@yvan2563]

AFAIK that thin plastic liner just burns when the aluminium is recycled.

[@pascalbro7524]

@@yvan2563 Well, yeah but that's not a good thing? Then there's the whole microplastic particles ending up in your system thing.

[@teac117]

I find it funny that incinerator/generator is BAD, but burning the plastic liner in open flumes is not and ENVIRONMENTAL. 🤣 Japan can reach 84%, half of which is thermal regen but that still is much better than USA. So it is you (USA) that's the problem. But what does one expect from a group that thinks quick-fire baseline coal plants don't count towards emissions in their green utopia.

[@ikocheratcr]

That plastic liner is basically the only way to make Al can usable for food. Steel cans are also lined with plastic or some paint. But compared to a plastic container, it is very small amount. Regarding emissions of burning it, I have no idea. The only hint I have is they melt at very high temp, so maybe the plastic is fully burned (ie CO2+H2O+residue), and that residue amount is small and can easily be removed from the molten metal.

[@Pottery4Life]

Burned off in the recycling process.

[@python27au]

We never had single use plastic bags. All our shopping bags were collected and used for other things, mostly garbage bags. So they banned the useful shopping bags but they still have several hundred types of single use plastic packaging for everything else. Most of the products shipped in cardboard boxes, like cake mix, have a plastic bag in the box, and we have to buy garbage bags as well, so wheres the saving?

[@douglasjohnson8935]

Reduce trash, ban all plastics, buy and carry your own water bottle!!! Thank you for this informative news clip!!!

[@SooziinCa]

THANK YOU PBS ! Everyone should also watch THE STORY Of BOTTLED WATER by The Story of Stuff Project. As a licensed Wildlife Rehabber for 25 plus years, the percentage of intake wildlife which has been injured, entwined &/or ingested fossil fuel produced plastics goes up each year. Since the 1990’s, I have encouraged people to buy only products which come in glass containers, to bring their own cloth shopping bags to grocery stores, to store leftovers in reusable GLASS, & to shop “in season” & local.

[@mikepotter5718]

If you want it to stop make the shareholders pay. Take 10 cents a bottle out of dividends payments and the problem will be solved quickly.

[@Ou8y2k2]

They'll add 15 cents to the cost of coke. Always pass the buck to 'consumers'.

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@Ou8y2k2 the money we get back for returning our empties hasn't gone up in decades. I was SIX returning Coke cans for 5¢ in the early '90s. They've er, canned, the whole incentive program effectively. That 5¢ is barely worth 2¢ in these times, and the floor for purchasing even the cheapest candies from a bin has gone up in that time.

[@MauroDraco]

Why isn’t t it solved then, you think?

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@MauroDraco capitalism wants to pay nothing for the invincible right to maximum profit. Which means bottle deposits don't follow inflation, which means no investment in ACTUAL recycling. And since capitalism is the religion of our time, nobody can legislate anything unless they can sell everyone on the profit available in doing it.

[@HahsJeje]

You literally did the same the companies did. "It's your fault its not like that just make the companies do it." Shows you now nothing and shouldn't have said anything. Did you even watch the same video ?

[@bryanherr1093]

This lady keeps on dropping truths. Keep them coming.

[@The_Hagseed]

Well, just remember, the second that microplastics are deemed hazardous, these companies will be hit with the largest class action lawsuits the world has ever seen.

[@moth.monster]

Lol, if oil companies got away with lead in gas they'll get away with this too

[@weatheranddarkness]

Well, it won't mean much until Chevron actually gets forced to pay out the billions it owes for killing people in the Amazon.

[@Whitehorse_crimefighter]

Those companies own the government, and nothing will ever happen

[@sophie9419]

Nope. Best case scenario, a few huge companies with go bankrupt. More likely, they'll lobby and be fine. Flies are caught and the wasps go free.

[@racistturtle7633]

It'll probably be a far far less than half a percent of yearly revenue as it always is

[@rabbytca]

A concept to reduce the disposable mentality and reject planned obsolescence starts with changing the perception of what a landfill's purpose is and when a consumer has to recon with the full cost of the products they are buying. The full cost being a full circle to convert the materials purchased back into a safely usable commodity. By viewing a landfill as a storage facility much like a storage locker that has an ongoing cost to store a product until that product is removed and then incorporating that cost into future purchases of that product will eventually make those products which are lacking R&D to return them back into something useful and thereby remove them from the landfill, into unaffordable elements in a responsible economy. Products that have a longer life cycle will become more affordable and products that are easily reused or inexpensively converted into other in demand useful products become the winners in the market. Municipalities/states/etc receive their costs of collecting and storing and transporting end of life materials before they are purchased and disposed of, regardless of how and where the consumer has abandoned the product. Eventually the industry that wishes to produce and or import will need to invest in responsible circular product management to continue being able to sell their product affordably and competitively.

[@andeve3]

Fun Fact: In 2022 plastics were detected in human blood for the first time (in circa 80% of those tested). The stuff had obviously already been found in other parts of the human body. The health impact is not yet known, but at least some guys made a profit for a while. Let's hope it doesn't get past the blood-brain barrier or compromise immune function or interfere with reproduction. EDIT: OK just scratch the part about about the blood-brain barrier, because research has already shown that microplastics can breach the blood-brain barrier. Let's hope it doesn't interfere too much with reproduction, then! Would be a shame if we did Children of Men to ourselves.

[@shroomer3867]

Sorry, money production trumps human safety and health, didn't you know? The CEO of Coca-Cola needs a fifth yacht this year. (Sarcasm, of course) Same thing happened with lead, same old repeating bullshit just in different flavours, just that now everyone decided to be ok with it for some reason and not realy hold the companies accountable, maybe it's because of all this bribing the companies do to our representatives and scientists doing think tank research for them. Oh and the politicians represent us so well, everyone knows that America is mostly comprised of old men about to go to retirement, of course it representes ALL of us, couldn't be that they hold on to that position to any means necessary since it's very cushy, nooooo.

[@jepps369]

This is exactly what I want to see from pbs

[@NomadicFae]

Really truly and honestly thank you for the uptick in content regarding these long time issues

[@simonpenny2564]

Kudos to PBS - this is important.

[@MeissnerEffect]

Thank you for keeping me sane 🦋

[@kair.6741]

Very useful information on the history of plastic and multiple companies involvement around it. I knew it was bad, but it's good to know the exact names and laws that evolved over the decades. History should never be forgotten!

[@4-kathryn]

Plastic is a tricky issue because it depends on it's use function. I once emailed a tea brand because I quite liked the tea but was annoyed it was wrapped in plastic. They saw my email and replied if they were to remove the plastic outer wrapper from the tea bag that the product I and many others have come to enjoy, wouldn't stay as peak freshness as long, the taste and flavor would diminish. I do hope someday we'll have a better solution for plastic though. I've heard of sugar cane used as a plastic swap but I'm not sure if its a blend of plastics AND sugar cane.

[@eklectiktoni]

Just a suggestion: try emailing them again and suggesting they use plant-derived biodegradable plastic.

[@karing.1618]

None of my tea bags are wrapped in plastic. I use 2 bags instead of one - that should make the tea company happy! There's also a tea shop that sells loose tea stored in glass jars, for storage at home in glass jars. The variety to choose from is super fun.

[@urlocalcrypt1d762]

They could wrap the package in plastic instead of each bag individually tho

[@SCHMALLZZZ]

​@eklectiktoni petroleum products are based on plants. Just really really old dead plants.

[@uGrando]

Thank you very much for making this video. Everyone should be more aware of this

[@exDivinityFPS]

PBS Terra, thanks for covering this. This is exactly the type of content I would like to see covered in news, such that we can illuminate this variety of corruption and put a halt to it if possible.

[@zap_collection6511]

I volunteered at a recycling plant in highschool in the early 2000s. I only did it for a week. My job was sorting what can and can't be recycled. About 98% of what came in went straight to the dump

[@Ryan-ot4pn]

everyone should see this, knowledge is power

[@twitchell2682]

I lit up coke's customer service when they did their last "recycle campaign". I told them, "i cant build a recycling plant but you can and wont."

[@stoneyswolf]

You actually believe a building that says recycling on it recycles? It's a scam up until recent China was taking the majority of our "recycling" and disposing of it. It's just way too expensive factoid they won't tell you so it gets dumped in other countries.

[@MariaMartinez-researcher]

When I was a little girl (the past millennium...) all dairy products came in glass bottles and containers; some came in cartons. You gave the glass ones back to the milkman when buying fresh dairy. And, you could get some coins or a discount when taking back to the shop the empty bottles of all liquids. Cooking oil was sold in glass bottles, or in bulk - you took your own bottle to the grocery store and it was filled according to how much you wanted. Sugar, and other goods like those ones were also sold in bulk - they were put in paper bags. Others came in cartons, or light cardboard boxes. Trash was packed in newspaper sheets. Indeed, plastics are necessary for several things, but for most of the single-use stuff, it is unnecessary. By the way, do you know why drinking straws are called "straws"? They were made from literal straw. I never knew what plant it was used for them, but straws were literal hollow *straws* when I was a little girl. Very resistant. Didn't taste bad.

[@core2zero]

sugar came in paper bags here, 5Kg bags, and the "lower quality" brands came in plastic, now they are all plastic

[@onetwothreeabc]

The problem is you need a “milkman” traveling through your neighborhood in order for the bottle returning business to work. You also need to have your whole neighborhood supplied by the same milk supplier. This business model just will not work in 2024.

[@S.A.White...]

​@@onetwothreeabcwhy not?

[@onetwothreeabc]

@@S.A.White... Because (I guess) you don’t want to pay $10 for a bottle of milk everyday.

[@S.A.White...]

@@onetwothreeabc why would a milk delivery man cause milk to be $10?

[@mistressxero2127]

Thank you for actually saying this out loud 🎉

[@KJSvitko]

Every things needs to be recycled or reused. Every manufacturer needs to design products so that they can be easily recycled. All new products should be made with recycled content.

[@yvan2563]

All products should be designed with disassembly in mind, both for repairability and recyclability.

[@stellviahohenheim]

Did you even watch the video? Plastic is very hard to reuse and very expensive to recycle. So what did they do? They make it like the consumers is at fault, people aren't recycling enough while they ramp up their production year after year. Don't you get it? It's a scam! How can the problem be solved when a person recycles while the company makes a million more?

[@Atmxx1002]

The reason for this is simply, if we go back to the old method of getting a glass of milk on your doorstep and then it getting taken away to be cleaned and reused, plastic companies will no longer be able to make money off the sale of plastic

[@charlestonianbuilder344]

thats aint cheap, and its much cheaper to just lobby against such laws that would force that upon them

[@alanverduzco6513]

I believe the keystone subject is our lifestyle in general. We expect everything to be in non perishable containers. We want every comfort in consumable from food to appliances. Where the fallacy starts is, the public actually has the capability to grow and surround local food economies. Eliminating as much necessity for preservation to begin with. This would require big box stores to yield their strongholds for the projects of the general public.

[@chrisconklin2981]

1). Reduce plastic in the waste stream. 2). Use AI/robotics as part of the post use waste stream processing. 3). Convert non-recyclable plastics into building material. 4). Ban landfill disposal. Replace with power plant incineration.

[@MeissnerEffect]

Yes conversion to biodegradable/helpful eco-friendly waste. AI I hope is being used to use abstract/complex holistic approaches to environmental catastrophes. And to predict possible future impacts of new solutions decades from now.

[@chrisconklin2981]

@@MeissnerEffect My reference to AI/robotics deals with the sorting of trash, which is presently a dirty job.

[@mattanderson9029]

Brilliantly made, journalism at its best! Spot on!!

[@ChroniclogicalJeff]

That was sadly depressing, exasperating and ultimately really really messed up. 😡

[@alhypo]

I worked at a beverage bottling facility about 20 years ago. It was not difficult to be consumed by despair when watching 300,000 bottles of water blast down the production line each day. And a major bottleneck in our output was actually being able to get enough plastic bottles into the warehouse to keep up with production. It was such an issue that we ended up installing our own blow-moulder so we could form the bottles on-site.

[@someguy2135]

One way to help at the consumer level is to try to avoid buying products with plastic, like single serve water bottles. I carry a refillable travel cup instead. I also try to reuse plastics that I do buy, like the bags my bread comes in. They can be used instead of buying new sandwich bags, etc.

[@eklectiktoni]

Exactly. Like this video explained, consumers can't do much downstream. The one thing all consumers CAN do is vote with your dollars. Don't buy from the worst offenders if possible. When their profits fall, companies HAVE to take note.

[@shiretsu]

Glad this is really reaching people. Very important message here

[@aprildawnsunshine4326]

I have to wonder, based off the comments, if this isn't just telling us all what we already knew and not reaching those who need to hear this...

[@moth.monster]

But now we can share it with everyone else and they can watch a 10 minute video with simple terms to get it.

[@poirot_the_magnificent]

If you live in democracy, this matters. However corrupt, politicians say and do what people want to hear and see...

[@JesterAzazel]

There's a lot of money in reaffirming positions that people already hold. Do a YT search for "plastics recycling problem" and you'll see a whole list of em.

[@stevesolbakken6365]

Good to see someone finally connecting the dots between the oil and packaging industries and the permanent waste they create.

[@skyllalafey]

This series has been very interesting.

[@27.minhquangvo76]

On the paper cup thing: It's very well-known that paper soaks up liquids, and it will destroy the cup soon after. I've read that most manufacturers tend to coat the paper item with a plastic (some use regular polyethylene, others might use perfluorinated stuff) to waterproof them. I don't know much about industrial chemical processing though, but chemically treating cellulose to be waterproof seems more time, chemical, and labor-intensive than spraying the waterproof stuff on it.

[@Blackaos367]

Here in Germany recycling works very well... maybe because of the 0.25 price tag attached to each and every plastic bottle, which you get back recycling in the machines that each and every grocery shop has...

[@CitizenSnips314]

Living in Denmark I'm inclined to agree. But I fear we're being misled. In Denmark you pay a small deposit whenever you buy beverages packaged in plastic bottles. The deposit is returned to you once you return the bottle. According to the body responsible for recycling plastic bottles - Dansk Retur System - 93% of all bottles included in this scheme are returned. 82% of those bottles are used for new plastic bottles. That's a 24% loss during the first two steps of the recycling process. It doesn't account for loss of material, downcycling or any other factor that affects recycling. Moreover, it relies on numbers from international partners who may prove unreliable sources, either because they use different definitions and calculations, or because they exploit poor oversight and simply burn the plastics they're meant to recycle. Danish media have uncovered multiple instances of this happening. Even though Denmark - and possibly Germany - are doing well by international standard, we're probably not doing as well as we like to believe and we're deifnitely not doing well enough.

[@Blackaos367]

@@CitizenSnips314 , I'm actually Italian, not German... and in Italy it is pretty much the same as in most other places, where plastics are differentiated in households, but then thrown or burned instead of being actually recycled... So, can Germany and Denmark do better? Sure.. Should they? Not yet! Let's give the rest of the world some time to keep up! 😀

[@RedHeadForester]

I went on holiday to Norway when i was a kid. Every bottle of water I bought, you could return the bottle and get a deposit back. The bottle would then be cleaned and re-used. It makes sense on so many levels.

[@Sciath27]

And KZbin is showing propaganda by the plastics council about "recycling really works... if only consumers do their part! It's not OUR fault!" with these videos as ads

[@BobQuigley]

Regardless of who's fault this is humanity pays the bill in the near term for the cleanup in the long term for the role flammable fossils play in our ever growing man made climate catastrophes. Thanks for you work!

[@ZeepDr]

Just evil, honestly. It's really disappointing.

[@frederickmarc-aurele2035]

Thank you for making this excellent video!

[@JonSteitzer]

Fun fact! Inside every aluminum can, there's a plastic lining!

[@КогорашИнф]

Bc aluminium is toxic metal 😂

[@austinmitchell2652]

Thank you as always for making these important informative videos 🙏

[@Glockenspheal]

eat the rich

[@kylepetersen9521]

Profit seeking entities demand two things. That the "right" to make profit, regardless of the damage it creates, is never questioned and that they never be held responsible for the products they create.

[@andrewzcolvin]

Capitalism at work folks!

[@fadipola7533]

it's not capitalism, it's the lobbying

[@ClassicJukeboxBand]

Without capitalism, we would still be living in caves...

[@nathanhough8156]

The definition of capitalism is not when bed stuff happens

[@bigsmall246]

​@@fadipola7533lobbying works when companies get large and have a lot of money. Companies get large and have a lot of money via? Capitalism.

[@orctrihar]

​@@fadipola7533 as confusing it sound It’s capitalism and capitalist fault, not capitalising, the two first create demand where it is not and offert quick solution and they also create false solution, capitalising is just investing in stuff that work.

[@benjamintan2733]

Yeah, work in stretch film industry before, you know, where you wrap your finished good with plastic? It's actually a miracle where if properly wrap, it can protect the finished good from rain or impact while transporting. Sadly, it is not highly recyclable, because we can only use up to 5% of recycled LDPE material in production. Higher than that the stretch film became stiff and brittle.

[@undone8103]

Great video! Can PBS do a video on the energy wasted on lighting the night?

[@carlosux]

i saw the frontline on this too a few years ago. i love you pbs!

[@zakjackson2610]

PBS coming with the bangers lately. 👌🏽

[@THEDAVILAK1]

Hey PBS. Was wondering if you could cover some of the Greenwashing practices used by the FSC? Love your content

[@scheikundeiscool4086]

It's simple untill a tax is introduced that makes recycled plastic cheaper then new plastic. We will never ever see the end of the overwhelming use of new plastic.

[@Shadow1-cf7nw]

Good information! I hope we can find ways to lessen consumer waste in the future.

[@ts918]

Would definitely appreciate a part 2! 😊

[@celiacresswell6909]

Watch fallout - that’s your part 2!

[@prtsmssng]

Hi, I'm from Brazil. Here small cities, not all of them of course, have a good habit of having a schedule day just for recycle trash, and employ about everyone who wants to sort it. Besides, in my school days, every year, we received from the government a "pack" of school good, such as notebooks, rulers, pencils... Everything from recycled papers and plastic. At the time I was a naive person and thought it was so lame, today I'm pretty much proud of this act.

[@-drey]

Plastic engineer here. The recycling laws are a joke. For example a batch of new plastic that doesn't meet its grade criteria is considered recycled plastic for the purposes of lower grade. For example if you need to mix a batch of chemicals to make a plastic that melts at 200deg but the result melts at 150 instead then that batch is considered recycled plastic (as opposed to new) for a product that needs 150deg melting point. Hope that made sense and you can see how absurd it is..

[@ReallyBama]

How can they possibly claim bans on single use plastic bags as a solution? All they did is make thicker plastic bags that people still don't reuse!!!!!!!!

[@Bashkir097]

Nailed it. Recycling plastics and personal responsibility has always been a sick lie. Just like that "crying Indian" ad in the clip - the actor known as Cody Ironeyes was actually a dude of Italian descent who made his living impersonating native Americans for Hollywood.

[@Gearsandoil]

I think you may have missed the point kemosabe. That part was about the industry trying to make the public aware 🙄, not a National Geographic piece on Indians…

[@mk1st]

Perhaps locating landfills in executives’ back yards would get them to pay attention.

[@skytrip5273]

My theory is that it's the plastic that our food, and drinks are in is the cause of increased cancer cases.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

This is one of the reasons we need to increase upcycling, it may have been corporations that started it, but corporations aren't going to reuse those items, there's no interest in doing so. But if you MAKE things out of that garbage, you can reduce the demand for plastic. I also try to use canning jars or reused glass jars whenever I can. If you put a bottle of water in the sun for an afternoon, I can TASTE the plastic in the water! I also discovered a shop in my area that sells laundry sheets by the each, so I don't need to get a massive subscription in order to get the benefit of them. My town banned single use grocery bags because people kept throwing their bags out and leaving them all over the ground. And people STILL do it with the dogpoop bags that aren't included in that ban! The paper bags weren't as strong, but guess what? the volume of litter went WAY down!!! And then of course I figured out how to make plastic bags into yarn AFTER that was all done. XD Which I thought was hilarious! I also learned how to turn 1 liter soda bottles into fly traps and 2 liters into hanging planters! I don't buy single serve yogurt cups (too much sugar!) and reuse the yogurt containers with lids as tupperware and small plant pots! I save disposible for anything that's gross and nasty. The main driver of my doing this isn't environmentalism either, it's poverty! If I reuse those yogurt containers and drink bottles I don't NEED to buy tupperware or plastic seedling pots! A word on reusing the latter btw, you can reuse plastic seedling pots from seedlings you buy from the store. HOWEVER, you should wash them with dishsoap and water first! The reason is that reusing pots without washing them can spread plant diseases to your seedlings! 😱🥬always scrub garden containers with soap and water when you transplant a plant out of them!!!!!!

[@MrCiaranm]

I am an electrical engineer, and even though my expertise is far from this field, I have been thoroughly trained in issues of chemistry and thermodynamics. I knew long ago (since the early 90s) there is no market for recycling and therefore most of the plastics I separate will go to a landfill somewhere, apparently 81% of it does. And that land fill might be a giant plastics waste island in the pacific. I have tried to minimize my use of plastics. The least one can do is prefer products that come in metal or glass. Yes they have a carbon footprint, but there is the potential to recycle those with renewable energy. This story is correct that the responsibility has been thrown on the consumer, so lets have the consumer reject all products in plastic.

[@dennismurray703]

Wow this video is a real eye-opener. There must be a strong case for more paper based packaging even of food items. Waxed paper products would surely work quite well and also should be largely compostable or at least biodegradable.

[@CaptainPhilosophical]

Why cant we go back to reusable containers? It seems like many non-food products like shampoo, laundry detergent, cleaners, etc could have a big vat in the store that you fill your reusable container and purchase by weight or volume.

[@Chevalier.D.Artagnan]

This needs to go wild, everyone should see this.

[@all3ykat79]

I really like this series.

[@bevgordon7619]

Great doc! Ok, so my city has stopped using single use plastic bags, straws, and take out food containers..But! What are these pale brown mock-cloth-feeling bags made of??? Paper straws and cups, ok. But don’t drink too slowly- i had a cup of hot tea and as time went on the paper cup was getting softer and softer, i wondered if it could get so soft it would crumple if i picked it up. And the honour-system of everybody putting products in the correct bins fails as soon as an a*hole dumps eg: food garbage into the cardboard bin. It is a DISASTER

[@buffplums]

This is absolutely awful that corporations are still exploiting people and the environment. I’m glad there are channels like this that make these issues aware to us.

[@AtulBhatia]

When I was a kid, we used to place our used milk bottles outside for the milkman to collect them and put filled bottles instead. Now, we buy milk in polyethylene packets (shudder), which we then have to rinse and dispose off in a special bin (which in itself is lined with ‘degradable’ plastic!)