How can Ibn Taymiyya help us today? With Prof Carl Sharif El-Tobgui

~ Ibn Taymiyya on Reason and Revelation: A Study of Darʾ taʿāruḍ al-ʿaql wa-l-naql brill.com/view/title/55796
~ Reason and Revelation in Ibn Taymiyyah with Dr. Carl Sharif El-Tobgui • Reason and Revelation ...
~Ibn Taymiyyah On Reason And Revelation By Carl Sharif El-Tobgui • Ibn Taymiyyah On Reaso...

[@kalijasin]

“What really counts are good endings, not flawed beginnings.” - Ibn Taymiyyah

[@Gog3453]

There’s nothing good about dying in jail because you want everyone to believe that the whole of the Quran is too be taken literally

[@Gog3453]

@Yousuf Patel HOW IS THAT FLAWLESS. He was forgiven for his past sins not his past crimes. Know the difference

[@Gog3453]

@Yousuf Patel not according to Islamic law. Crimes involve the rights of people places and things. Sins don’t

[@Gog3453]

@Yousuf Patel not crimes. Know the magnitude

[@Gog3453]

@Yousuf Patel then know the difference between a sin and a crime

[@graybow2255]

One historian estimated that 275,000 people gathered for his funeral, the second largest in Islamic history at the time, the first being Ahmab ibn Hanbal's.

[@Prayformetobeagoodmuslim]

Hush don’t say that, asharis will slander you my brother lol

[@scarfaceyam145]

​@@Prayformetobeagoodmuslimno they actually respect the great scholar and thinker Ahmad ibn Taymiyya, a rather misunderstood scholar by the Wahabi/Salafi movement.

[@Prayformetobeagoodmuslim]

@@scarfaceyam145 sincere asharis who are truthful yes, but there are many of those insincere opponents of him who just because they disagree with his aqeedah insult everything about him like he is Iblees himself, which is not fair…thanks for your honesty, although I don’t agree with u regarding salafeeya and so called « wahhabeeya » you’re atleast honest

[@AA123TD]

Alhamdullilah Allah guided me to Islam.

[@AdrianMuslim]

Alhamdulillah.

[@samy7013]

Allahumma barik!

[@osmansiddiqi5774]

Welcome to islam brother❤

[@LordYamcha666]

I’m still going through the video, but the point you mentioned about Ibn Taymiyya freeing Christians and Jews from Mongol captivity is powerful and challenges many modern perceptions about this figure. Excellent work!

[@bestryfulhd2102]

Challenges them on the bases of their view of this life .. that we are all equal.. Its just shows we still indoctrinated by liberal philosophy too hahaha..

[@samantarmaxammadsaciid5156]

How did he free them? Did he have specialised army of his own that could overpower anything or did he have special way of talking to the Mongols? If that were the case, why didn't he prevent the Mongols in the first place from attacking the Muslim lands and everyone lived in it, whether they were Muslims or not?

[@muhammadaamir6341]

@@samantarmaxammadsaciid5156 no it was negotiation with khan to free the prisoners. Mongol khan himself was muslim. Later on Ibn tammiya issued controversial fatwa of jihad against that muslim mongol khan and fought himself in Battle of Marj al-Saffar where they routed and defeated the mongols. His controversial fatwa against muslim ilkhanid mongols is most useful instruments al qaida and isis use in fighting against muslim governments.

[@samantarmaxammadsaciid5156]

@@muhammadaamir6341 So, are you saying that this Mongol converted into Islaam that he prejudicially - as a Muslim and not as his Mongol religion he came with - selected Christians and Jews in captivity?

[@muhammadaamir6341]

@@samantarmaxammadsaciid5156 No, as for as i know ilkhanid mongol campaign was all sweeping, infact armenian and georgian chiristians were major ally of ilkhanid( mongol dynasty which dominated middle east) not to mention the muslims who were part of ilkhanid army(e.g Naseer ud din) .These were compaigns in palistine and syria where they were finally defeated .At the same time mongols started to convert to islam.But initially muslims mongols were also attached to their traditionall code.We are actually talking about that time. They took population of Damascus and surrounding areas captive which were overwhelmingly muslims and also jewish and christian denizens of these cities. Mongol did not took christian and jewish as POWs becuase they were non muslims, but because they were citizens of besieged and conquered lands.These non muslims used to pay a special tax to there respective Emirs and Sultans(mamluks). This was islamic tax for which respective rulers was responsible for there safety.An alternative for this is to serve in muslim army. In this context ibn e tammiya pressed for release of jewish and christian POWs.

[@Hikmah1995]

The man was a genius. Straight to the point, pure, and simple. His books are amazing. It's unfortunate how his enemies chose not to benefit from him.

[@amranxtv3261]

Because he was an enemy of the family of the Prophet (s.) and a liar.

[@Nicola.M7]

@@amranxtv3261 that’s a lie he never slandered ahl Al bayt, he loved imam Ali. Don’t bring ur Shiism bs in here u rafidi do g

[@Hikmah1995]

@@amranxtv3261 You clearly never read any of his books if you're that ignorant.

[@amranxtv3261]

@@Nicola.M7 Calling me a dog is your islamic Akhlaq, masha'Allah. That's how your Islam teached you manners and good behaviour? Besides, it is not a lie. How do you know he loved Imam Ali (a.)?

[@muslimsoldier8012]

He was genius brah By creating isis 😂😌😌

[@samy7013]

May Allah have mercy upon Sheikh ul-Islam Taqiyy-ud-Deen Ahmad Ibn Taymiyyah, and accept him into Paradise alongside our Martyrs and the Righteous. Allahumma Ameen!

[@LordYamcha666]

Amazing point about Ibn Taymiyya correctly representing his opponents’ arguments. In this day and age, people do misrepresent each other way too often and claim victory.

[@huntsman2877]

Powerful people with powerful beliefs, doesn't need to misrepresent.

[@sutil5078]

haha you are right so funny "claim victory" I visualize them lifting their fist to the sky.. and self congratulating. Huntsman you have said wise word there :)

[@plung3r]

A huge thank you Paul for bringing us almost daily hidden gems that I had no idea about that exist in our Muslim community. May Allah reward you for your efforts, hard work and research to enlighten us.♥♥

[@ESTproducing]

0:00 - Introduction 4:27 - Overview of the Life of Ibn Taymiyyah 11:50 - Background of Reason and Revelation in Islamic thought up to Ibn Taymiyyah 14:25 - An example of the 'conflict' demonstrated 17:19 - Ibn Taymiyyah's gripe with hidden metaphysical assumptions in 'reason' 18:26 - Back to the example 20:11 - Not a discussion concerning the earliest Muslims, the influence of Greek philosophy on Christianity and Islam 22:33 - Indications of proto-theology in the Sahabah and the warnings of the Noble Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) 24:06 - Beginnings of conversation and debate on the terms of philosophy, the beginnings of the Mu'tazilah and their faults 25:25 - Comparisons of these faults today, the flaws of accepting foreign concepts and categories 30:45 - Short critiques of excessive autonomous 'freedoms' 32:46 - What does this have to do with Ibn Taymiyyah? The importance of language and concepts 34:15 - Ibn Taymiyyah's arguments against the 'universal rule', what is the 'universal rule'? 40:25 - Has Ibn Taymiyyah been accurate with his paraphrasing? 44:24 - Ibn Taymiyyah's structure and style compared to other thinkers, Kant and al-Ghazali 47:11 - The 'universal law' continued 53:17 - Applications to science 57:33 - Back to the critique, what is conclusiveness in reason and in scripture? 1:07:21 - What do we do when reason and revelation 'conflict'? 1:09:03 - Modern 'conflicts' that people discuss , the case of Adam and so on 1:24:00 - The problem of how to determine what scripture says 1:25:00 - Back to evolution and the people's issues with the unseen 1:34:28 - Muslim do not need to force accommodation for the theory of evolution, Thomas Nagel and philosophy of science 1:37:00 - Muslims should not be anti-science, Muslims should pursue science like they did before in their golden age, it should be part of our wider paradigm 1:43:47 - Conclusion

[@shifajahan6249]

Thank you, Jazakum Allahu Khayran.

[@osama_rawwagah]

Great job. Jazakallah Khair!

[@Ibn_Abdulaziz1405]

For those who want to understand what the terminologies of the Ahlul Hadith and the Usuliyeen like Qat'i vs Zanni that Dr. Carl Sharif El-Tobgui who is very eloquent and hopefully a Salafi in 'Aqidah is talking about: Then in order to understand this you have to understand two words. 1. Riwayah (how it was transmitted). 2. Dalalah (the meaning). A) How a Nass (text) was transmitted could either be Qat'i (clear cut) or zanni (speculative). The Qur'an is Mutawaatir in its transmission and is thus Qat'i in it's Riwayah. The difference of opinion is with regards to the Ahad Ahadith. B) How a text is understood could either be Qat'i (clear cut, meaning it has only one meaning), or zanni (speculative, meaning it is open for more than one meaning). Both the Qur'an and Hadith can be Zanni in it's meaning. The Ahlul Hadith and Ahlul Bid'ah agree on the latter but not for the former i.e. the Riwayah part when it comes to the Ahad Ahadith. _Mutawaatir vs Ahad._ _The Mutawaatir_ Meaning, in each Tabaqah (generation) of the Sanad (Chain), then an unlimited people narrated the same Hadith until it becomes impossible that they could've lied. _The Ahad are of three types_ If there is a limit in one of the generations, like 3 people, then it is called Mashhur. And if it is only two in one generation, then it is called 'Azeez. And if it is only one person that narrated it in one of the generations of the chain, then it is called Ghareeb. These three: Mashhur, Azeez and Ghareeb are called Ahad. And it is these three i.e the Ahad and not the Mutawaatir that are scrutinized. A Gharib Hadith that has only one narrator in the Tabaqah (generation) of the chain, is still Qat'i in it's Riwayah according to the Salafis if it is Saheeh. For example the very first Hadith of Saheeh Al-Bukhari: "Innamal A'malu bin-Niyyat (deeds are judged by their intentions)." This Hadith was only reported by Yahya Ibn Sa'eed Al-Ansaari رحمه الله from the Tabi'is and 'Umar Ibn Al-Khattab رضي الله عنه from the Sahaba. So the first Hadith in Saheeh Al-Bukhari is a Gharib Hadith, but the chain is authentic. The Ahlul Bid'ah however regard all the Ahadith that are not Mutawaatir as Zanni in it's Riwayah. Therefore they ended up denying many Ahadith because of this. And it was the Mu'tazilah who came up with it in order to deny the Ahadith that refute their Bid'ah. The Ash'aris and Maturidis are the offshoot of the Mu'tazilah. Hamza Yusuf, a sufi ash'ari said that there are only 500 Ahadith that are in the same status as the Qur'an (i.e Mutawaatir in it's Riwayah). What he's talking about is this i.e that only those whose Ahadith are Mutawaatir in it's Riwayah (transmission) are the only the ones that are Qat'i while all the Ahad Ahadith are Zanni in the way that they were transmitted. The rulers who incline to 'irja tend to use this trick (hiyal). MBS came out denying Ahad Ahadith in order to justify his concerts and hedonistic city building. May Allah ﷻ Guide him. This thinking has opened the door to lots of sins. But it began with the Ahlul Bid'ah who wanted to deny Ahad Ahadith that refuted their neo-platonism. They denied Al-Istawa because they believe affirming it implies that Allah ﷻ is a Jism (body). But now the Fitnah is about cash flow and getting approval from the west by way of tourism, concerts or hedonistic city building, and thus MBS used this as way to justify it. As for the Dalalah (signification), then both the Qur'an and Ahadith can be Zanni (speculative and open to more than one meaning). For example the command: "Wa Aqimis-Salat (And Establish the Prayer)." The Dalalah (meaning) is Zanni because it needs a Qareenah (external) source to fulfill the command, like knowing the times of the Prayers, the conditions of the Prayer, the pillars of the Prayer and what to say etc. And all of that are found in the Ahadith. This also refutes the Quraniyun (Quranists) who deny the Sunnah. So remember that as long as the Hadith is Saheeh (authentic), then it is Qat'i. Whereas the Ahlul Bid'ah do not see Saheeh Al-Bukhari as Qat'i. Only the Salafis (Ahlul Hadith) do.

[@Ibn_Abdulaziz1405]

Evolution is neither Qat'i or Zanni. It is not even knowledge, but Baatil (falsehood) and Jahl Murakkab (compounded ignorance) and shirk (polytheism). Because they delegated the Attributes of Allah ﷻ to nature (atoms); that God is non-existent and thus nature regulates and creates itself, and thus it is Shirk al-Akbar (major polytheism) in Rububiyyah (Lordship), whereas a christian who argues with this type of atheist and says that God is the Creator and Regulator, this type of christian is not necessarily committing polytheism in Lordship (Rububiyyah) here, but if he managed to convince the atheist, then the christian will tell him to invoke Jesus عليه السلام or Mary عليها السلام or saints, and would thus be calling the atheist to polytheism in Uluhiyyah (Worship). But if the christian believes that Jesus عليه السلام created him, then he is a mushrik (polytheist) in both Ar-Rububiyyah (Lordship) and in Al-Uluhiyyah (Worship). Only Muslims upon Tawhid (Islamic Monotheism) are not violating Allah's ﷻ Rights in Lordship or in Worship, which is the key to Jannah (the Everlasting Gardens of Paradise). And all mankind should have this 'Aqidah (Creed) plus not saying that you will turn to dust and vanish into non-existence, because that would ascribe shortcomings like creating the world with indifference, falsehood and injustice unto Allah ﷻ if both the good and evil become equal in non-existence with one another. It would also mean that the truth was never revealed and that everyone is upon falsehood opinions until they vanish with one another, and thus the atheist is trying to convince others of worthless opinions that didn't matter once his atheism renders him equal with everyone that he disagreed with. And thus truth was never their objective as it never existed, rather not having desires, addictions or remote worldly hopes yet to be reached not being spoiled was their drive. And thus they were willing to corrupt this abode of deeds of ours that determines our eternal existence to come for selfish desires when it didn't matter if they even did that. Thus the conclusion is that atheists are a menace. That's why they end up as nihilists and anarchists due to their disbelief in Al-Aakhirah (the Afterlife). Allah سبحانه وتعالى said, وَأَنَّ الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْآخِرَةِ أَعْتَدْنَا لَهُمْ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا And that those who believe not in the Hereafter, for them We have prepared a painful torment. [Al-Israa' 17:10] Atheists are not atheists by definition, but polytheists in Rububiyyah like the pharaohs and the tyrant that argued with Ibraheem (Abraham) عليه السلام in Surah Al-Baqarah. Whereas christians are similar to those whom the Prophets were mainly sent to i.e. those who believed that Allah ﷻ created them and provides for them but would not cease invoking angels, jinn, men or using idols as intermediaries, sacrificing and offering to them. The former is a mushrik (polytheist) in Rububiyyah (Lordship) while the latter is a mushrik in Uluhiyyah/'Ibadah (Worship) if he does not say that a man (Jesus عليه السلام) created him. Most of mankind are polytheists in worship and not polytheists in Lordship.

[@animatedislamichistory]

Ibn taymyah has fought both jihad of the pen and the sword. An exemplary patron of Islam.

[@shadeeduliqaab]

May Allah have mercy on Taymiyyah's soul❤️

[@bee2373]

I'm in my 30s now but remember my dad teaching me about Ibn Taymiyyah (May Allah have mercy upon him) when I was a child, Alhumdulilah. May Allah reward my dad for guiding me to the great scholars early on in my life. Insha'Allah I plan to explore more of his works.

[@penonton_youtube777]

watch adnan rashid channel about ibn taymiyyah

[@dr.bilalnazir]

Big props to Professor El - Tobgui and Paul for this talk, it was very beneficial. May Allah reward both of you for your efforts. Professor El - Tobgui's book is truly amazing. He is able to masterfully articulate the Taymiyyan/salaf paradigm which can help us overcome many 'intellectual' claims that attempt to undermine the Islamic narrative.

[@BF109G4]

God bless Ibn Taymyyah.

[@AdilKhan8222]

Sheikh Albani, the late Saudi cleric, has great understanding of Ibne Taymiya biases.

[@abdulsameehpvt6668]

some people when they see the name ibn thaimiya begin to cry in comment section....I don't know why....

[@fahad055]

I agree 😆 .

[@Hikmah1995]

Because he destroyed their innovative beliefs.

[@huntsman2877]

Idk what's up with them😄

[@ahmd5]

We know why 😂🤣😂

[@wanfatinsuryaniewa7007]

Subhanallah..i thought i was the only one.. Just his name bring tears to my eyes

[@ali_rehmatullah]

Took a class with Dr. El-Tobgui through Boston Islamic Seminary. Fantastic teacher, he was especially good at explaining difficult philosophical and theological concepts for lay people :)

[@iswallbanoo9843]

Salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johannesburg pray 5 times a day

[@samy7013]

May Allah make it easy for you, and reward you greatly.

[@taimur74]

Alhamdullilah what a lion of Islam .. triggering the people of bidah and giving them PTSD till this day 😊

[@AdHl2000]

What a fantastic enlightening discussion. Thanks Paul for the great informative content!

[@BloggingTheology]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Last_Respecter]

Salam Paul. Appreciate these vids as always. Would love a discussion on Imam Al Ghazali if you’d be interested.

[@naufalwildan9688]

And ibnu rushd

[@iyepmamun2315]

Prace be all of us. This is such an absolutly wonderful informative infortant and interesting conversation . I hope God Always bless both of you .

[@ThePrincipleLogician]

Ibn taymiyya a man ahead of his time.

[@letmetalk2240]

Thank you for another informative video.

[@Ar_tistt]

Great interview. Thank you

[@mn-lt4kq]

Thank you both.

[@usamaazizz]

JazakAllahu Khayra brothers. May he multiply the rewards of your efforts and grow them like a tree.

[@hussamchaaban67]

The more knowledge you gain, the more faith in your heart grows. Keep growing your faith.

[@ayyazsiddique5381]

I will just say one word for the interview "amazing". JazakALLAHukhairan

[@sutil5078]

Blogging Theology Here is a point: If quran were to talk about microwave, infrared, radio waves, etc as part of the unseen" along with Jinn, Angels, etc we would be judged wrong until few decades ago yet these waves existed all along..I bet many scientist prior to these discoveries would point that as wrong in Quran.. now we know they exist. Thanks for your great videos as always may Allah grant you light, in your face, words, actions and mercy and your loved ones and the guest and all of us ameen.

[@electrotech2253]

Pretty much :)

[@amine-qy7ih]

Great conversation thank you both!

[@yas78687]

MashaAllah, and JazakaAllah khaire brother Paul

[@imambaybars3405]

Great interview brother, may Allah bless and reward both of you for your efforts.

[@ameenmakanvand868]

SubhanAllah it is amazing how the Ummah is totally in sync. These are exactly the issues I am dealing with regarding my assignments as a Religious Studies major at a secular University. I've literally been suffering from imposter syndrome regarding my intentions behind pursuing my major-because in secular institutions, it is considered more academically erudite to "step-outside" of one's faith, whereas in Islam, we seek knowledge only for the sake of God. Of course one cannot serve two masters, and if it comes down to either comprimising my faith out of a desire to be "loved" by progressive institutions, or to remain a firm believer and potentially be derided and swallowed by the lion within the colosseum pit of the Greek ampatheter, then InshAllah I will holdfast to what is right in preference to what is easy. With regard to the Mutazillah, it is amazing how history repeats itself given our dynamics nowadays. And success is only by God.

[@housse51]

Alhamdulillah great interview.. this is a groundwork needed to understand aqeedah points Baarakallah fiikum..

[@amaddin3817]

Jaza ka Allah Khyran Bros for sharing your thoughtful discussions; may Allah Swt bless you both immensely and enormously… Ameen

[@maryamtakreem4936]

Very good lecture full of knowledge

[@mclovin1071]

I'm 20 min in, and I must say, I'm loving this. Once again, BT does a great job at making intellectual conversations accessable to the masses. I can listen and learn while making my baby asleep. Thank you.

[@monzersami1642]

Amazing episode. This channel is really iconic... love you brother ❤

[@zakaryus4038]

When we see all those topics that get us closer to Allah day by day with all this precious knowledge ,We understand why we really Love you in the sake of Allah my dear brother Paul. May Allah make all those efforts sincerely for His face

[@mahaebeid6256]

This is extraordinarily great insight 👏👏

[@haledhajdari1154]

Thanks very much to both of you for the excellent program ! I am.finding especially useful the advice on how to debate with asking questions about every claim.

[@logiic8835]

Very insightful, thanks Paul.

[@caseyshelton7216]

Brilliant discussion, brother! ☺️

[@sondrameyer2816]

Kudos again on the quality of your guest and the whole programming. My only complain is the list of books you have recommended and I now fell compelled to buy is going to bankrupt me. Otherwise I'm truly grateful for Blogging Theology. Peace and blessings upon you.

[@DawingmanT900]

The PDF is free to download

[@aklimurraza2626]

MaahaAllah I’m very pleased Iv stumbled upon this channel and this professor carl seems to be upon the truth within academia which is something that Iv not seen, especially as discussed within this video what happens to most academic Muslims who try to “debate” or “challenge” these ideas and notions, fall into the trap of using their language and definitions.

[@salmanknoxville]

This was an absolutely fascinating discussion and presentation of Ibn Taymiyyah’s work! Marvelous! Excellent steering of the conversation as well for use of current examples.

[@Solemn_G]

Excellent discussion.

[@ryojs4286]

The level of awesome this is Is everything one could ask for If you are Muslim and care for your Friends and Family SHARE THIS Whether they watch it or not doesn't matter, just share

[@itsmeazizi8087]

Hi, I really love this. I would really appreciate if you time this fruitful conversation. It is easier for us to watch certain topics again. Thank you for your effort for the ummah. May Allah bless you

[@hazembayado9521]

Excellent, enlightening, insightful, superb job gents. Can't wait to dive into Ibn Taymiyyah's great mind and get a deeper sense of this great thinker. Thanks

[@LordYamcha666]

Good point about how we shouldn’t integrate modern terms and concepts in our religion.

[@slimanekhiloun2422]

God bless you both , respect from Algeria

[@ollamail1892]

Absolutely fantastic video on one of Ibn Taymiyyah’s works that I didn’t know about! I must get a copy of this Prof Carl’s piece, it’s so interesting that I can I actually say this is one the best videos I’ve watched in months… Jazakumullah Khairan to both of these Sheikhs

[@hussamchaaban67]

Great job!

[@ahmd-mi9964]

One of the best video by non partisan Muslims, on Ibn Tammiya (ra), I've ever come across jizaikAllahu Kair Paul and all.

[@AdrianMuslim]

Paul you have a good voice. MashaAllah.

[@ZZ-ls5hv]

A Very interesting topic. Tq to both of you

[@nadera1830]

Thank you for this fantastic topic. You present Ibn Taymiyyah better than others on KZbin, I hope you do another on his logic, and most importantly, his critique of the Arestotlian view on language, which I consider his greatest Idea.

[@nailfelagund7508]

Masha'Allah 😍

[@cyberlink824]

Only the title is amazing. Nice topic

[@beautyofislam8253]

ibn taymiyyah rahimahullah.

[@abdullahhaque1860]

SubhanAllah...A soul nurturing video....Enjoyable to the core!!! @Blogging Theology It just melts the heart to hear "Peace be upon him" said by Paul(as per this hadith [The Prophet (ﷺ) said "None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind."])...May Allah(swt) ,the only God worthy of worshipping , guide you and all of us toward the Light and Truth.

[@shamselnahar45]

This interview is genius. Paul's questions and interruptions are perfectly sited and Sharif's responses show a very well grounded grasp of the matter. Many thanks for both of you and all respect and admiration to Ibn Taymyah's methodology. Paul, it will be great if you can find us an expert on F Al-Razy one day.

[@BloggingTheology]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@MnM_CuteCatClips]

Very engaging.

[@AZAHAZA]

Great you tube channel

[@novell80]

Ibn Taymiyyah(r) was a really intelligent scholar, Masha'Allah. He was one of the best scholars in the history of mankind.

[@yassinerajawi283]

رحم الله شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية وغفر له وأدخله الجنة ،

[@falcongulf5470]

Alhamdulillah ☝

[@afsinakatsuki8526]

Alhamdulillah

[@tariqmostafa]

Thank you

[@g7k993]

Alhamdulilah

[@ronakram6690]

Mashallah

[@scarfaceyam145]

Also,id love to one day watch skme discussions on the history of Sufism,The Ash'arites and Mu'taziliyya, and that clandestine society of scholars,The Bretheren of Purity and the pure philosophers/Hukama. Shukran ones again Mr.Paul for a very eduactional discussion

[@rehanbinnazeem]

Quite intriguingly, Imam Ibn-e-Taymiyah was introduced in Muslim India by none other than Shah Waliy-ullah: the most outstanding scholar of Muslim India. Abul Kalaam Azad in his book "Tazkara" refers to him [Ibn-e-Taymiyah] as the crown of classic Islamic scholarly tradition.

[@wandering3ngineer]

Paul, Carl. Thanks for the presentation and, Carl, for making your book available for free via PDF - if time allows, I'll try to tackle it! Vis a vis 1:20:00, I find myself agreeing with you regarding the nature of science and the interpretation of texts. ..... Not to detract from this argument. But I did note some studies on the topic of parthenogenesis (i.e. virgin birth) - I'm not able to post links to an example paper in youtube here though. I haven't studied the subject to any great extent nor do I have the expertise to interpret the studies, so not making any kind of statement on this topic beyond that of being just a curiosity for your interest vis a vis the conversation.

[@haythemlutfi]

Thank you for this video, is there a translation to other IBIN TAYMIYA’s books such as الجواب الصحيح لمن بدّل دين المسيح؟ Please reply and link your answer if there is Thank you

[@shihabshihabi]

Faithfuls love ibn Taymiyyah and hypocrites hate him.

[@bhashmi88]

Im sure your intention is pure but you cannot call someone a munafiq based on their opinion of a scholar. Is their opinion right or wrong is besides the issue.

[@shihabshihabi]

@@bhashmi88 If those who hate followers of Quran and Sunnah and love followers of phelosophy and bidah are not munafiqs (zindeeqs) then who are the munafiqs?

[@bhashmi88]

@@shihabshihabi no follower of any islamic scholar has claimed to hate followers of Quran and Sunnah. That is your assumption and hence very dangerous.

[@yuurha4446]

@@bhashmi88 that's it. If they see other people with different opinion it must be wrong lol. Idk man this world already old. Late or later khawarij will going surface and they're so much

[@bhashmi88]

@@c0detearz320 don't see the relevance of your quote

[@marijwasti8465]

Ibn taymiyyah! Pure Genius. He actually wrapped the deviant beliefs of kalamists in the coffin, using their own reasoning, and buried them forever.

[@alawitemuslimdefenceleague8792]

He failed to bury us though , we buried him and his followers instead 😇

[@deathmarch8354]

@@alawitemuslimdefenceleague8792 Even shittes dont consider you muslims.Why would i take alwaites seriously?

[@haythemlutfi]

Great video, thank you so much. However, I have a simple question that really has nothing to do with the topic, but I heard you both say “almost inevitable” Where that does not make sense if I translate the words to Arabic. Does it have another meaning in English? Thank you

[@samantarmaxammadsaciid5156]

I don't it it's about translation in itself, why it is In Arabic in the first place, why and how were we created in Arabic?

[@LordYamcha666]

He came up with 38 arguments to refute the universal law. Wow. People these days only come up with 1 argument against whatever they disagree with and call it a day.

[@housse51]

And that 1 argument is "wahhabi!" 😂

[@imranqqq7307]

Assalaam Paul. I just bought the paperback from Brill after listening to the podcast, fyi. (Anyone buying, make sure to use a discount code found online for 25% off). The audio from Prof. El-Tobgui was poor quality, though, hard to hear, just to let you know - don't know if there's anything you can do about that. JazakAllah khairan

[@farafero77]

The imam who defeated the philosophers by philosophy

[@fahim-ev8qq]

Ghazali did this first tho, to be fair 🤣

[@farafero77]

@@fahim-ev8qq But Who of them had affected and who affected by philosophy

[@NK236]

@@fahim-ev8qq Both ghazali and ibn taiyymiah were great islamic intellectuals no doubt.. But IBN taiyymiah is more convincing than ghazali because of his strict firmness upon the Qur'an and sunnah and manhaj of Salaf..

[@khaderlander2429]

@@NK236 for Salafi's a minority in the Muslim community. For the majority of Muslims Al Ghazali left a lasting legacy.

[@NK236]

@@khaderlander2429 I'm not Salafi infact I was one of them .. But I see salafism methodology better' than Sufism.. Majority does not matter like numbers it's all about quality.. I'm still honest about Ibn taimiyyah..

[@awaisqaisar6696]

Dr. Carl Sharif El-Tobgui and Dr, Jordan Peterson should have a chat

[@zouhairelmeniari1431]

شيخ الإسلام احمد ابن تيمية ❤

[@brasherish]

not really a religious person per se. But really appreciate this channel and depth that's covered in all these blogs. thank you

[@ziauddin7948]

related to reasoning in Quranic verses yes there r several verses in Quran which reveals that God's knowledge is not perfect & several verses also antagonize the claim & declaration of verses which say God has timeless knowledge that is before the existence of this universe till the resurrection day # among those verses is the verse " الان قد علم ان فیکم ضعفا" " now i ( God ) know that U ( believers ) had weakness " # this verse clearly declares that God didn't know that believers had weakness till the weakness manifested #

[@77ahhh]

حتى اليوم لا أعتقد أنه هناك عالم موسوعي كبير مثل إبن تيمية ، هذا الرجل لايوجد نظير له في التاريخ من حيث معرفته بالافكار والاديان والفلسفات القديمة والمفكرين والفرق الإسلامية ، لقد ذكر آرائهم في كتبه بإنصاف وحيادية تامة ، ثم أخرج قلمه ورد عليهم بالتفصيل والدقة المتناهية من خلال القرآن والسنة النبوية و العقل . هذا الرجل مذهل ومعجزة إلهية ، رحمه الله

[@ahmed.aljelali]

اعظم انسان بعد الانبياء في نظري ❤️❤️🥺 رحمك الله يا شيخنا

[@NadDew]

≈ 1:20:00 about virgin birth it common in nature by another species like bees 🐝 strangely it always resulted into male bees never female. as a biology teacher I find it fascinating and I always ask my students when I explain this subject to them " it's happened once during human history can someone tell when it happened and who happened to?" they always answer it correctly 😅

[@zabra6340]

Mumtaz !

[@f3rhaan341]

Hi Paul, Long time viewer, first time commenter. Love your content, thank you for all your great work in bringing a unique, intellectual and thought-provoking channel to your audience. This was a profound episode. Thank you to both you and Prof El-Tobgui for showing how Ibn Taymiyya's method of approaching these topics can be applied in the modern context. My main takeaway from this episode was the discussion on Scientism and how science is really just a way of examining patterns within the physical world and is not the all-encompassing belief system many take it as in our times.

[@essa200911]

Ibn taymeah is a true genius

[@Khaledf]

Most dr. 'Atai's critique against Pauline branch of christianity ( i.e. adopting Greek thoughts and venerating human beings) is almost exactly what IT criticized against Kalami and Sufi schools of his time. The irony here is that Zaytonah college adopts kalami and sufi principles where dr Atai works!

[@BloggingTheology]

interesting point!

[@Khaledf]

@@BloggingTheology Pauline christianity and Ash'ari school ,for example, have created new language and meanings to fit their creed, and this new "language" can't be found in the scriptures. Ask christians about the word (one) and see how they bring to you a new meaning for it, which is not found in the bible at all. Also, ask Ash'aris about the word (speaking/speach), and see how they go through all sort of gymnastic to tell you that ( speaking) originally does not involve voice and letters in Arabic language to fit their notion that God didn't speak with Moses with His Voice otherwise and from their perspective God goes under change which can't be true about what God is. I know! It is headache as much as the trinity unfortunately. May Allah have mercy on Ibn Taymyyiah.

[@abukarali2966]

Khalid it seems like you’re referring to the sufi and kalami (if you mean Ash’ari) strawman in your mind. Ash’arism, if you would know anything about them, are the ones that rejected the pure rationalism of the philosophers adopted by pauline christianity, 99.9 percent of the work against rationalism has carried out by Ash’aris. And they are the ones that literally wrote the book on Usul al Fiqh, and hadith sciences. I urge you to do some real research instead of spewing hate against Ash’aris and sufis.

[@Khaledf]

@@abukarali2966 I know what I am talking about. Ibn Al-'Arabi, the student of Al-Ghazāli, said " our sheikh Al-Ghazāli engulfed philosophy, but once he wanted to vomit it, he couldn't" i.e. he has been influenced heavily by it. In fact, Al-Ghazāli himself criticized what so called tawhìd in kalāmi school by saing "it has nothing to do with the companions of the prophet peace be upon him". He said that in his book ( Iljām Al-'awām). It is a historical fact that most what salaf criticized against Mu'tazilites is applicable also for Ash'ari school. After all, the ash'ari school is an offshoot of the Mu'tazili one. This is a historical fact which can't be denied.

[@abukarali2966]

@@Khaledf do yoi realize that Imam Ibn Arabi al Maliki himself is Ash’ari like 99 percent of all the imams in every science of the Qur’an? How are the Ash’aris an offshoot of the Mutalzila when they are the ones who got rid of them. You’re spewing simplistic Wahhabi propaganda! You are saying that 99 percent of the Ulima of Islam have been upon misguidance since the time of Imam Ash’ari. You are no different than the Shia who assert that all the Sahaba except a handful became misguided!! Naudubillah!

[@hatidjesabri7326]

I was surprised to find out that Nietzsche commented on George Eliot. I've always felt so sad on account of her alleged atheism. Middlemarch is a great novel, arguably the greatest of its time.

[@sucatoe]

Ibn Taymiyya’s criticism of the universal law is best for laymen because the scholars have a job to make things clear and go deep into problems and they can’t just blindly follow like the rest of people. So in a way both Imam Razi and Imam Taymiyya are correct.

[@Khaledf]

Not true. They can't be both correct. Al-Razi rejected hadiths in Bukhāri and Muslim just because they go against his theology.

[@sucatoe]

@@Khaledf They can, because for scholars they have a job to make things clear and defend against attacks to the religion. So they can’t just say the Quran said so. While laymen should say that because they don’t have the tools or Knowledge to defend. Show me where he rejects a hadith, most likely he just rejects wrong understandings of hadith. These are scholars of Islam so we should verify abusing them.

[@zanajaf]

The thumbnail reminds me of the 10,000-Dinar Iraqi bill The bill says “the Arab Scientist, Hassan bin Haitham”

[@shihabshihabi]

Abu bakr stood alone during Riddah and won. Imam Ahmed stood alone during Fitnah and won. Shaikh Ibn Taymiyyah stood alone during the Monghol invasion and won. Saladin stood alone during the crusades and won.

[@Mohammed-jf2sp]

لم يقف أبو بكر وحده ولا أحمد ولا ابن تيمية ولا صلاح الدين بل كلهم كان معهم طائفة كبيرة من الناس، لكنهم هم من تصدروا الموقف لمكانتهم في زمنهم.

[@shihabshihabi]

@@Mohammed-jf2sp وقفوا لوحدهم بآرائهم واجتهاداتهم لا بعضلاتهم حتى قال أبو بكر لعمر أجبار في الجاهلية خوار في الاسلام

[@Mohammed-jf2sp]

@@shihabshihabi أما هذه العبارة فينبغي التأكد من صحتها. لكني أقصد أن هولاء الذين ذكرتهم رحمهم الله ورضي عنهم لم يكونوا بمفردهم نعم قد يكون أبو بكر في بداية الأمر فقط وبعدها كان معه جميع المسلمين وكذلك أحمد رحمه الله بل قتل كثير من العلماء الذين كانوا في وقته وكذلك ابن تيمية كان غالب أهل دمشق يعظمونه وكان له أصحاب وأعوان في وقته من عامة الناس ومن العلماء وأيضا بعض الأمراء وأما صلاح الدين فواضح أمره إذ كان أميرا يتبعه الناس. فكلامك كأنه يصور الأمر أنه لم يقف أحد مع من ذكرتهم وهذا غير صحيح.

[@shihabshihabi]

@@Mohammed-jf2sp ما اقصده أن كل الناس غيرهم كانوا يرون أن الخطب يستلزم تقديم بعض التنازلات وهم اصروا على مجابهة الباطل

[@BF109G4]

@@shihabshihabi عبارة غير صحيحه وليس لها اسناد او اصل ولهذا وجب عليك ان تعتذر للشيخين رضي الله عنهما

[@joshuacook402]

when Paul referred to Aristotle as some dude from Greece that made me laugh

[@yassinerajawi283]

كتاب الجواب الصحيح لمن بدل دين المسيح ، درة من درر شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية جزاه الله عنا خير الجزاء ورضي عنه وأسكنه فسيح جناته

[@mohammedhanif6780]

at 16.44 Paul actually gives Ibn Taymia's own view! That God is the subject of temporal events.