How can you trust the New Testament when the original manuscripts are different?

There isn’t one, single, original, preserved copy of the New Testament. So how can you trust the text of the New Testament when all the earliest copies disagree with each other?
Daniel B. Wallace, Executive Director of The Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts, explains why you can still trust the text of the New Testament despite it having so many textual variants.
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[@erinbeltran1820]

Your hearts will be filled with the truth of God, the Lord and The Holy Spirit, so anyone who is worried about not having the right Bible shouldn’t worry. It will be in your heart which you will follow if you are with Him. That is what I feel in my own heart. May God bless you.

[@gnarmarmilla]

You have not examined your Bible carefully enough as you would see that there are some key differences in some places that could alter the way you see certain prophecies. By and large, the main translations are good but people ought to make sure they aren’t being deceived by corrupt scholars who decided to go out on their own and write a useless translation with many corrupt verses. You’d be amazed what one word can do to a prophecy of that word changes. The Word of God will be in our hearts, indeed God does say that but God says faith comes from hearing and hearing the word of about Christ so what will happen to your heart if you have the wrong words about Christ in it?

[@HappyHermitt]

I agree. A true seeker will find what they are looking for through discernment and prayer. I write nothing in stone.

[@louisvega-oe2sc]

If there are worries about the Word, it means there is, no spirit to discern.. history is part of discernment: since God is a part of history, the Spirit will lead you and guide you in the way you should go!. What's the beef?

[@Folkstone1957]

⁠@@HappyHermitt I don’t use prayer to find what I am looking for.

[@philippevie3258]

Don't believe Jesus had anything to fo with the god creator of everything an every being an the universe

[@Ailsworth]

Certainly this can be said of all ancient writings. Scholars who study ancient texts, known as textual critics, compare and analyze these manuscript copies to determine the most accurate and reliable version of the text. They examine differences between manuscripts, consult references made by ancient authors, and use other tools and methods to reconstruct the original text to the best of their abilities.

[@sugar-]

They never planned this, but for the Quran you can take the oldest one and one from one and they will always match up but this can never be do with the bible

[@Ailsworth]

@@sugar- And there are clear, understandable, historical reasons for this.

[@RaeKwon-Doe]

Can’t be said for the Quran. The Birmingham Quran is dating from the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad and is the same as the one we have today 😊

[@doxholiday1372]

@raeglizzie9613 Here we go with more fantasies. #1) Even if the oldest manuscript is identical to copies that exist today, that doesn't mean the words are true or that they came from God. #2) the Birmingham manuscript is ONLY ONE SHEET OF TEXT! Stop making it sound like it's the entire Quran. #3) The claim that modern Bibles differ from the ancient manuscripts is deceptive since unlike the Quran which is simply copied because it was written in Arabic and people still speak Arabic, nobody speaks Paleo Hebrew or Koine Greek, so the bible is translated into modern languages. Therefore the real issue is accuracy of translation RATHER THAN IDENTICAL COPYING, and we already have the ancient biblical manuscripts themselves and we simply create facsimiles to preserve them. (So, in reality, we do have copies and they're 100% identical to the original source) "The Birmingham Quran manuscript is a single sheet of parchment on which two leaves of an early Quranic manuscript or muṣḥaf have been written. In 2015 the manuscript, which is held by the University of Birmingham, was radiocarbon dated to between 568 and 645 CE (in the Islamic calendar, between 56 BH and 25 AH)." "One of the most respected Old Testament scholars, the late Gleason Archer, examined the two Isaiah scrolls found in Cave 1 and wrote, “Even though the two copies of Isaiah discovered in Qumran Cave 1 near the Dead Sea in 1947 were a thousand years earlier than the oldest dated manuscript previously known (A.D. 980), they proved to be word for word identical with our standard Hebrew Bible in more than 95 percent of the text. The five percent of variation consisted chiefly of obvious slips of the pen and variations in spelling.” The real test in determining the trustworthiness and accuracy of the Quran in regards to the prophecies allegedly received by Mohammad, lies in examining their original transmission and codification, not the preservation of a final edit.

[@doxholiday1372]

5. Anas bin Malik's Account of the Collection of the Qur'an: Hadith 510 The following things are proven from Hadith 510: There were differing versions of the Qur'an in the early years of Islam. Uthman ordered the Qur'an compiled into one volume. Some of the manuscripts were not in Muhammad's original tongue and needed to be translated. Uthman ordered competing versions to be burned, indicating that there were other versions in existence at the time! There was only one man who remembered one of the verses of the Qur'an. 510. Narrated Anas bin Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Quran. So he said to Uthman, "O chief of the believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before." So Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Quran so that we may compile the Quranic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to Uthman. Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, "Abdullah bin Az-Zubair, Said bin Al-As and Abdur Rahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Quran, then write it in the dialect of Quraish as the Quran was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Quranic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Zaid bin Thabit added, "A verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Quran and I used to hear Allah's Apostle (SAW) reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among the Believers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.' (33:23) Vol. 6 -Virtues of the Quran - Hadith 510 6. Contrary to Muslim claims, some verses had not been memorized by everyone: Hadith 511 511. Narrated Zaid bin Thabit: Abu Bakr sent for me and said "you used to write the Divine Revelations for Allah's Apostle (SAW): So you should search for (the Quran and collect) it." I started searching for the Quran till I found the last two Verses of Surat At-Tauba with Abi Khazaima Al-Ansari and I could not find these Verses with anybody other than him. (They were): 'Verily there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad (SAW)) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty. . . (9:128-129) Vol. 6 -Virtues of the Quran - Hadith 511 7. There seems to be a conflict in the claims as to when the Qur'an was collected, and there was not a generally accepted version available: Hadith 525 & 526 525. Narrated Qatada: I asked Anas bin Malik, "Who collected the Quran at the time of the Prophet (SAW)?" He replied, "Four, all of whom were from the Ansar: Ubai bin Kab, Muadh bin Jabal, Zaid bin Thabit and Abu Zaid." Vol. 6 -Virtues of the Quran - Hadith 525 526. Narrated Anas (bin Malik): When the prophet (SAW) died, none had collected the Quran but four persons: Abu Ad-Darda, Muadh bin Jabal, Zaid bin Thabit and Abu Zaid. We were the inheritors (of Abu Zaid) as he had no offspring. Vol. 6 -Virtues of the Quran - Hadith 526 8. Zaid bin Thabit's Third Account of the Collection of the Qur'an: Hadith 301 The following things are proven from Hadith 301: Caliph Uthman ordered the Qur'an compiled into one volume. The Qur'an was not collected during Muhammad's lifetime. Zaid had to be persuaded to do that which the Prophet had not doen. There was only one man who remembered some of the verses of the Qur'an. 301. Narrated Zaid bin Thabit: Abu Bakr sent for me owing to the large number of casualties in the battle of Al-Yamama, while Umar was sitting with him. Abu Bakr said (to me), "Umar has come to me and said, 'A great number of Qaris of the Holy Quran were killed on the day of the battle of Al-Yamama, and I am afraid that the casualties among the Qaris of the Quran may increase on the battle-fields whereby a large part of the Quran may be lost. Therefore I consider it advisable that you (Abu Bakr) should have the Quran collected.' I said, 'How dare I do something which Allah's Apostle (SAW) did not do?' Umar said, 'By Allah, it is something beneficial.' Umar kept on pressing me for that till Allah opened my chest for that for which He had opened the chest of Umar and I had in that matter, the same opinion as Umar had." Abu Bakr then said to me (Zaid), "You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Apostle (SAW). So you should search for (the fragmentary script of) the Quran and collect it (in one Book)." Zaid further said: By Allah, if Abu Bakr had ordered me to shift a mountain among the mountains from one place to another it would not have been heavier for me than this ordering me to collect the Quran. Then I said (to Umar and Abu Bakr), "How can you do something which Allah's Apostle (SAW) did not do?" Abu Bakr said, "By Allah, it is something beneficial." Zaid added: So he (Abu Bakr) kept on pressing me for that until Allah opened my chest for that for which He had opened the chests of Abu Bakr and Umar, and I had in that matter, the same opinion as theirs. So I started compiling the Quran by collecting it from the leafless stalk of the date-palm tree and from the pieces of leather and hides and from the stones, and from the chests of men (who had memorized the Quran). I found the last Verses of Surat-at-Tauba: 'Verily there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad (SAW)) from amongst yourselves.' (9:128-129), from Khuzaima or Abi Khuzaima and I added to it the rest of the Sura. The manuscript of the Quran remained with Abu Bakr till Allah took him unto Him. Then it remained with Umar till Allah took him unto Him, and then with Hafsa bint Umar. Vol. 9 - Judgements - Hadith 301

[@jacobjackson7013]

We love Jesus because he loved us first. 🙏

[@ShroomedMisterCraft]

Gaaaay!

[@ianofliverpool7701]

Funny watch what Dr. Wallace says about the New Testament in this interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKvRYqCsgZmifqM

[@abdulazizabdullah312]

😂

[@theonlybigsmoke]

lol

[@kiabvaj5656]

Jesus never existed so he could not love you first.

[@ParsifalChannel]

Excellent! Thank you! God bless you!

[@dansilverstein8693]

How can we trust and follow Bible when we don't know which version is correct?

[@dgittelson7]

See comment, Daniel Gittelson (Hitler would had known that I WAS A JEW), "UNTO THE JEW FIRST IS THE GOSPEL OFFERED, and THEN TO THE GENTILE, FOR SALVATION COMES THROUGH THE JEWS"... IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE BECAUSE OF THE Shema Yisrael, "Hear, O Israel: the LORD is our God, the LORD is one", Not Three? Consider WATER, my Brother; Water is known to exist in three different states; as a solid, liquid or gas; THREE (3) MANIFESTATIONS, ONE ESSENCE, LOVE ❤, DANIEL

[@fiddah]

Many parts of the Bible have been changed by certain people several times. Read the Qur’an . The Qur’an is the Final Book ALLAH SENT to humankind. Not a letter has changed in the Qur’an.

[@fiddah]

We Muslimeen believe Isa (“Jesus”) ‎عليه السلام is a great Messenger of ALLAH . Isa (“Jesus”) ‎عليه السلام never told people to worship him. He worshipped only ALLAH. Isa (“Jesus”) ‎عليه السلام is a great human. A human eats food and drinks water. ALLAH CREATED us. ALLAH Doesn’t need anything. ALLAH doesn’t need anyone. We should worship ALLAH Alone. Do read the Qur’an

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

Did you not even watch the video?

[@junioo3692]

@@fiddahyou realize it’s a fact that the New Testament is historically accurate and the most attested historical document lmao, so no it’s not changed

[@oldindianchief9403]

Why is it so hard to find one video on the history of revisions and edits that were made to the modern bible? All I get are religious channels preaching what they claim are the real versions, but aren't they just copies from copies that were translated and re-written over centuries again and again? I want to know how many times the bible was edited throughout all history.

[@bornagainalex2250]

The man said, the differences are small that they don’t affect doctrine. So Jesus is still God.

[@oldindianchief9403]

@@bornagainalex2250 bullshit

[@oldindianchief9403]

@@bornagainalex2250 Look dude I already know the bible is all lies I just wanted to find out how many times it has been edited because it would be good evidence it is bullshit. Apologetics will always find some excuse to believe in ghosts.

[@Mayan_88694]

@@oldindianchief9403 you don’t know the Bible , you will never know the Bible more than Christians , let me ask you this , do you believe life can come from non life ? That your ancestors are fish ? We can’t even find the missing links of your Darwinian fairytale , so I wouldn’t be talking if I were you

[@oldindianchief9403]

@@Mayan_88694 You're out of your mind. Why don't you try to humble yourself and stop believing in fairy tales.

[@Jingleschmiede]

One problem though. How can you know, that you have an exact copy, when you don't know the original ? :)

[@saintleslie]

Listen again to Dr Wallace!

[@Jingleschmiede]

@@saintleslie He explains how we can be sure, what's in the NT is accurate. But not, how we can be sure, that it matches the originals. It doesn't matter how many copies of copies of copies of copies you have, if you don't have the originals, you cannot be sure if the copies are accurate. And the most important things is, that it only proves the stories of the NT, not the events in it. So, it doesn't matter.

[@saintleslie]

@@Jingleschmiede Perhaps, this will help you: www.michaeljkruger.com/is-the-original-text-of-the-new-testament-lost-rethinking-our-access-to-the-autographs/

[@carlwebstern5065]

Came across a site called - doesgodexistandbeyond.com/manuscriptevidenceofthebiblepages/ looks at Manuscript History with Reason and Logic using Primary Evidences. And has other topics with information not well known. Worth a Read.

[@ahmedsaeedbj]

Simply because it’s not the exact copy. God assigned people to protect it. And sace it but people didn’t want to, instead they did the opposite and it’s scripted now or specifically no one knows if his copy is the right one. The Quran came, free of wrong grammar, free of contradictory. Logical. Don’t go against our instincts

[@kenwebster5053]

Yep, there is probably more meaning alteration by the act of translation into other languages, including English which only have one word for love while Greek has 4 with distinctly different meanings. Languages do not have exactly the same concepts and nuances, but the essential truths and values come across as long as we don't get too pedantic analysing every nuance. Also, word meanings change over time and sometimes quite a lot. like the word sensible in English, the root of which is sense as in the 4 senses. Sensible was to do with emotions, an expression of sympathy, it originally had nothing to do with the mind. In term of bible translation, that particular word is irrelevant but it serves to illustrate the point that we need to update translations. We can't just keep using outdated language translations because that leads to errors in understanding.

[@glennrobinson7193]

Ken Webster ▪ You are contradicting yourself ▪ I'm wondering if you really know what you're talking about. Or did you just read it out of a book.

[@kenwebster5053]

@@glennrobinson7193 No, not from a book. I read my post again and corrected some typos. There is no contradiction in my meaning, perhaps it's not clearly expressed. Please specify what you see as the contradiction.

[@ianofliverpool7701]

Watch what Dr. Wallace says in this interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKvRYqCsgZmifqM

[@kenwebster5053]

@@ianofliverpool7701 What's you point? He is agreeing with me that there are manuscript variants, but they don't amount to any major conflict. The underlying & unstated assumption is that biblical scholars must and do study language variants over time to ensure they are indeed understanding the meaning within historical context. Those kinds of basic principle are generally not stated in any field of study, except to 1st year students of the field. Yes, there are differences, we know there are. No they don't amount to any serious conflict. Some deliberate alterations have been found, they are known and recognised for what they are. Eg: We suspect that the closing verses of Matthew are additions. Also the phrase "captives in his train" is misquoted or altered between the OT & NT. We know about that, it doesn't change the central message of salvation in Jesus one little bit. None of these things are a big deal. Why do so many Christians deny these aberrations exist? They do exist, just own up to them and say, they don't amount to enough to matter. Just be honest!

[@ianofliverpool7701]

Funny watch what Dr. Wallace says about the New Testament in this interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKvRYqCsgZmifqM

[@victorbutcher7410]

The Old Testament was written in Hebrew - The New Testament is written in Greek - That should tell a thinking person something.

[@Name-el9ps]

Victor Butcher It tells me that scribes were using different languages 400 years after the last prophet of the OT. There are possibly a number of reasons for this, none of which suggest a conspiracy you appear to be inferring. The strong influence of Rome on Israel and a new focus that went BEYOND the occult language of the Jews aiming to reach the Gentiles are two very reasonable guesses why Greek was used.

[@protruth5133]

That’s because aruis piso and Romans created Iesus kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaOboKKpZZV9g9k

[@souldesire5932]

Actually the NT wasn't written in Greek first..and there are many meaningful mistranslations bc of it

[@sohayameen2452]

@@souldesire5932 utter falsehood

[@souldesire5932]

@@sohayameen2452 Not at all, it's easily proven and the translations make more sense at times. Historians noted that it was much more rare than people think to speak Greek in those areas at that time. The events were CERTAINLY not taking place in Greek language. And there is manipulation in the Bible as well, more than people think.

[@ahmadsofian6249]

OMG, please forgive them for boldly corrupting your holy words. And show us the right path to your mercy 😭 .

[@antonyjoseph453]

See you tube (Christian Prince)

[@christrisen6589]

If injeel is the word of allah and christians corrupted his words doesn't that mean that allah is a liar and a false god because he says in the quran surah 6:115 that no one can change his words but he allowed injeel to be corrupted,apply some sense abdool

[@curiumapologetics3995]

So the corrupted book is teaches love and the so-called TRUE BOOK teaches hate and violence?

[@littleman6379]

Just 1% he says and that too does not jeopardize the doctrines. Qur'an brings out doctrines entirely opposite to what new testament says. Jesus never died. Jesus is merely a human and not divine. No belief in redemption by the sacrificial death and resurrection of Christ. Work emphasized instead of grace. No assurance of salvation. These are just a few important doctrines among many where the new testament varies with Qur'an. The kingdom of God continues to grow as told by our Lord and one day will swallow all kingdoms. God says that every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is the Lord.

[@photojokimeven9185]

@@curiumapologetics3995 What a terrible argument. Cope harder, boy

[@theodoremacewko7757]

How else do they spell john and mary ? Where can i see these manuscripts ?

[@HappyHermitt]

Listen to the first couple sentences in the video. Good grief

[@12steps2JESUS]

Like have y’all actually watch the video, it says that these textual barriers are minimal there most likely errors of writing, they do not affect the actual message of the gospels!

[@rinharter7758]

Exactly

[@abdulkadirhassanahmed956]

No one is denying most of the errors are due to human errors but on the other hand there are plenty of intenstional additions and subtraction in the bible which isn't no found in the earliest copies. Like 1 john 5:7. There are also clear contradictions in the NT on how to obtain salvation. You have Paul saying dont follow the ten commandments ony have faith in crucifixion and resurrection but on the other hand you have jesus saying follow the ten commandments and you will get eternal life. So yes the NT is corrupted and we can't regard as the word of God.

[@sponge6171]

@@abdulkadirhassanahmed956 Jesus was making an example that mere man following the law in order to earn salvation was impossible due to our flawed, sinful nature. He then said right afterward this: Mark 10:26-27 They were greatly astounded and said to one another, “Then who can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “For mortals it is impossible, but not for God; for God all things are possible.”

[@abdulkadirhassanahmed956]

@@sponge6171 read these two bible verses in parallel and tell me that they don't contradict on whether Christians(i.e gentiles or non-Jews Christians) adapt or uphold the ten commandments. ephesians 2:15 vs Mathew 5:17-20 Paul vs jesus

[@sponge6171]

@@abdulkadirhassanahmed956 In Matthew 5:17-20, Jesus is not saying that carrying out the law itself determines salvation. He is emphasizing that the law is good, but also saying how the righteousness of the law was being/going to be fulfilled/completed in Him. This rendered certain ceremonial and symbolic laws as an example no longer necessary for the Church, but general moral laws are still important for this new group of diverse people all across the nations who would soon enter the Church. The Pharisees and keepers of the law were, externally and according to their works, the most righteous anyone could get by themselves. They worshipped the law, but did not worship God. Ironic how their worship of the law became pride, the greatest thing which separates man from God, and this led to Jesus's crucifixion. Jesus is saying here that those who want to see the kingdom of heaven must be more righteous than the scribes and Pharisees. No matter how hard they tried through their own works in the law apart from God, they fell short. That's why we require Christ's grace and faith that he fulfilled the law through his righteousness and absolute, sinless perfection. Ephesians 2:15 is saying a similar thing, abolish in it's original Greek literally meaning "render inoperative." Paul says here that the purpose of the law has been completed, its purposes being to reveal God's character to Israel, distinguish them from all the other nations, show them their sinfulness and how short they fall from God's standard of perfection, provide forgiveness through sacrifice, and other things, these purposes having been witnessed and described throughout Christ's life, death, and resurrection. The verse also details how Israel/the Church consists of both Jew and Gentile, Christ having made a peace between them and a new body being made from their peace and joining together which is the Church. The "laws" which haven't been rendered obsolete are not just laws. These are good things, important, vital things such as not murdering, giving the the poor and needy, showing love to your neighbor and even your enemy, having patience and being slow to anger, staying humble and not boasting. These are things which only God can convict you of and bring into your heart. It is not works which earn salvation, but salvation which naturally causes one to want to do these works and share the kingdom of heaven and the character of God with others in this way. The only real meaningful decision I can make as a mere mortal man is to trust and believe in Christ and that he will use me for his greater purposes. Father, Son, Holy Spirit, these are all different faces of the one true God in order to help us understand his transcendent, infinite complexity yet immanent, personal relational desire as witnessed amongst these three "faces" of himself. He is so unimaginably big yet so incredibly close to his children. I've felt his warmth and touch. Also the word "abolish" in Matthew 5:17-20 is different from the "abolish" in Ephesians 2:15, the one Matthew more meaning "destroy" in the original Greek and the one on Ephesians more meaning "render inoperative" as previously said. Jesus didn't destroy the law, but fulfilled it, rendering certain parts no longer necessary as previously stated, but the general important stuff is still there until heaven and earth disappear and sin has no dwelling in the new heaven and new earth.

[@jamesgale2147]

Bravo, proper scholarly insight from a man of God who is clearly also a scholar.

[@mike300rum]

Having thousands of variant copies is actually better than having 1 original. If we only had 1, we wouldn't know if it had been corrupted, but by having thousands of copies, we can reconstruct the original with virtually 100% assurance. There's simply no way to alter the original, either by accident or on purpose, with the amount of copies we have. You'd somehow have to corrupt thousands of scribes, over different locations, over hundreds of years.

[@brixiemandal3878]

Thank you for yiur insight! I agree! Even the Early Church apologists and bishops whose written works are still extant to us today would help us reconstruct the Original New Testament. If the New Testament had been under corruption, yes, there would have been a significant number of textual variants that would contradict each other in both message and theology.

[@LCLand]

This is what I keep asking those who say Jesus name was changed and they add the apocrypha. We can trust we have holy scriptures

[@Xelfier]

How do you know if you're correcting them or correcting them incorrectly? If the other parts say 8 and the other say 18 then which one is the correct one or are both correct or incorrect? Christian will always said they are authored by man inspired by holy Ghost believing that same Holy Ghost is perfect in anyway possible. So aren't the manuscript supposed to be perfect? How it is easier to avoid contradiction when you have 1 original manuscript at the time of Jesus and his disciples compared to hundreds of thousands of manuscripts differentiate each other after many centuries?

[@barbwire7449]

The more variants the merrier, so long as they are not contradictory, and support each other. There are many anti Christian cults that use the thousands of N.T. variants and manuscripts as an excuse to claim Bible corruption and question the correctness of the Bible. Unfortunately, Satan first questioned God's word in Genesis 3:1, and has continued to do so today. Mormons have their Book of Mormon, a fairytale, with no archeological proof, so the only defense of their Bible is to question the Christian Bible, cast doubt on it, since the Book of Mormon is contradictory to the Christian Bible in multiple dozens of verses. The Jehova Witnesses Bible, "The New World Translation" is also flakey, since the committee that translated it was flakey. Hard to argue with cults, since they will pull out an inferior bible to argue their point. Nice to know that Jesus kept His promise, and preserved His word down through the ages. Christians can be confident they are reading God's true word when they read from the Bible.

[@mike300rum]

@Together we 🏳️‍🌈⃠ when the original was written, of course there was only one, and it was perfect. But if we only had that one today, anyone could simply say, I don't believe that's the original. There would be no way to prove it. We would all be left wondering if it was the original or not. What we have instead is tens of thousands of copies, and by comparing all the manuscripts, we can very confidently reconstruct the original. Imagine ig 1000 people all had the same jigsaw puzzle, but each of them were missing a few pieces. If they all got together and shared their pieces, they could easily complete the puzzle. The Bible is a lot like that. There are very, few places where we are not sure what the original said and nothing in question affects any doctrine.

[@Ohaechesi]

Interesting, but what about King James rewriting the Bible in 1604 I wonder how many changes he made that affects Christianity today.

[@alexvalle7023]

the bible is not a trustworthy source. King james developed it for political reasons, and there are lots of errors as well as lots of additions not found in the many manuscripts

[@fiddah]

There is only ONE Qur’an. Many parts of the Bible have been changed by certain people several times. Read the Qur’an . The Qur’an is the Final Book ALLAH SENT to humankind. Not a letter has changed in the Qur’an. There is ONLY ONE Qur’an. The Qur’an has been memorized by several people. الحَمدُ لله

[@Ohaechesi]

@@fiddah I don't think I agree with the quran either or even other religions. I believe in living your life in a good manner without harming or enforcing a belief on to others.

[@aliciahernandez8198]

@@fiddahthat’s your stance on that ? That because there is one it must be the one truth ? It is just translated in order for the reader to read.I am the first one to point out a contradiction or lie and I haven’t found one in the Bible yet.The Quran is so obviously based off of the flaws of the flesh.Sorry but that is the truth.

[@sazidaziz810]

​@@aliciahernandez8198 did you read quran brother?

[@sjappiyah4071]

2:00 I guarantee most people didn’t watch up to 2:00 before commencing. People need to learn to listen….

[@hanstwilight3218]

I keep thinking about this whole, do he have the “original “ objection and iv basically come to see it that even if we ACTUALLY had the originals IN HAND, there would still be no way of knowing it for sure, even with carbon dating and textual criticism, this kind of investigative analysis only get us within “the year of” and thus leaves still a lot of room to posit some other original out there to be found..... Witch leads me to my second thought, .... the only logically sound way of positing the “where are the originals” is if you yourself have positive evidence, that there ARE originals in the first place.... Why wouldn’t we ( in the modern era) only proceed forward with the OLDEST manuscript we have “AS THE ORIGINALS”.....🤷🏻‍♂️ Even if these scripts “talked” about events that happened before the scripts themselves were written... We still can’t then assume that there are “earlier “ or originals to be found, because at some point you have to consider that the scripts are talking about events that happens in history’s...... it’s just like you going to the store last week for groceries happened in times past, therefore AN EVENT ..... at a point as you “go back “ these stories come “off the paper” and are in the mouths of people, just like 9/11 was in the mouths of people because it was an event that happened in history, so we talked about with each other after it happened and this is how the story was transmitted, and even today with TV and being able to watch the whole thing happening in real time, yet, people still have different accounts of the events that took place on 9/11.... In one thousand years from know, who’s “take” on the the things and events that transpired on 9/11 , do you think the people of that time will conclude on....? Mine or yours ? And yet, like with Jesus, they all agree on ONE THING...... those towers.....were destroyed. I.e ... Jesus died and he rose again.

[@halimj7]

With Gods help. God bless everyone. As a former Christian I am appalled that the speaker or anyone could suggest that none of these corruptions/errors impact doctrine. The most important part of doctrine is affected - the Authority and integrity of scripture. How can anyone knowing this say the Bible is from God? When did the bar become so low?!

[@Fedproman]

Listen again. You missed the whole point. He said over 99% agreed on the main issues. The variants were different spellings of names etc, and are of no significant importance. You know it came from God because He speaks directly to His children by His Spirit through the Scriptures. That should pretty well explain why you aren't getting it. You aren't His child by your own admission, so it is "foolishness" to you.

[@halimj7]

@@Fedproman With Gods help. God bless you. I will ignore your attempts at insults and think the best of you because our Prophet Muhammad (Gods peace and blessings be upon him) taught us to do so. You acknowledge an estimated 1% of errors are beyond different spellings? If you are content with any imperfection from a book that is supposed to be from The Perfect One (God The Creator and Beautiful Sustainer) then have it. Within the Bible there are gross and glaring imperfections that prove the Bible in it current corrupted form is no longer the word of God. God does not contradict or tell untruths. The Bible is the word of unknown anonymous men with their own agendas and opinions and imperfections. For this reason never is it said in the Bible I am God and I revealed this book - the Bible. Most Christians are only Christians because they were born that way and they don’t want to change their religion even though they know the Bible is seriously flawed. Read the the numerical contradictions in the Old Testament or the contradictory genealogies of Jesus ( peace be upon him) in Matthew and Luke. The Quran is truly from God and does not have these problems. Ask God for guidance, Read, Think and reflect if you are sincere in worshiping in truth. God bless.

[@bornagainalex2250]

The man said, the differences are small that they don’t affect doctrine. So Jesus is still God. Jesus is God ✝️: Answering Muslims ❤️ According to the Qur’an only Allah can forgive sins, but in (Luke 5:20) Jesus forgives sins. • The Qur’an says only Allah is the ‘first and the last’ Jesus says that he is the first and the last in (Revelation 1:17-18). • The Quran says only Allah will Judge mankind and allow people into Heaven, Jesus says that he will Judge the World and allow people into Heaven and Send people to Hell. (Matthew 25:31-46) • The Quran says only Allah can raise the dead and only Allah will raise the Dead on Judgment day. Jesus raises Lazarus from the Dead (John 11:38-44) and Jesus says he will Raise himself up from the Dead on the Third Day in (John 2:19-21) and Jesus said that he will Raise the Dead on Judgement day (John 6:39) • There are so many other examples, that show that Jesus is God. When someone can do only what God can do. We can assume that this person is more than just a man/teacher. But God in the flesh. God bless.

[@halimj7]

@UCoYHg1d7hAeS4mAd7Q01g3Q Is it not part of Protestant doctrine that the Bible has inerrancy? If the Bible has any error at all the Bible is not perfect and any book that is imperfect is not fit to be the word of God. So what then is the purpose of the Bible? How can you accept this guidance and trust the Bible for your life’s choices and ideas? You are grasping at straws. Ask God to guide you toward His book and continue your search for Truth. I did and it led me to Islam and feel so blessed and at peace. God bless.

[@halimj7]

@@bornagainalex2250 With God help Who cares what Bible says today when it is full of error? We don’t even know who wrote the books. And whoever was in charge of preserving and copying it failed. Sorry this book is a collection of opinions from anonymous writers. That is part of the reason its preservation was not assured. The copiers knew it was no big deal to make mistakes. You would never find this kind of neglect and complacency with the Quran because it is clear the Quran is from The One and only God!

[@torah30menit80]

Short and great explanation. @zondervan : can I copy the link and share to others? Thanks

[@frederickpile3599]

Daniel 9:26 Zechariah 12:10 Psalm 22 Isaiah 53 Isaiah 63 Job 19:25 Job 33:4-5 Zechariah 4:6 , Zechariah 2:10-11 , Isaiah 11. Micah 5:2

[@MatthewZmusician209]

"Nor take life -- which Allah has made sacred -- except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand retaliation or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life, for he is helped (by the Law)." [Quran 17:33 "I heard the Messenger of Allah [SAW] say: 'It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim except in three cases: A man who commits adultery after having married; or one who kills another person, who is to be killed; or who reverts to Kufr after having accepted Islam, who is to be killed.'" The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" Sunan an nassai’i 4059 "That the Prophet [SAW] sent him to Yemen, then he sent Mu'adh bin Jabal after that. When he arrived he said: 'O people, I am the envoy of the Messenger of Allah [SAW] to you.' Abu Musa gave him a cushion to sit down, then a man was brought who had been a Jew, then he became a Muslim, then he reverted to Kufr. Mu'adh said: 'I will not sit down until he is killed; this is the decree of Allah and His Messenger,' (saying it) three times. When he was killed, he sat down." Sunan an-Nasa'i 4066 Why in Islam is it okay to kill non Muslims? I’m sure Muslims will just claim this verse is false or it translate different in Arabic. I got this from a Muslim website, if it was false then why would they have it and if it translate different in Arabic why would they use these words to translate it to English?

[@fiddah]

We can’t kill any random non Muslim. Only a just Muslim ruler in a country ruled according to the Islamic law is allowed to kill a person who was Muslim but left Islam, but that is the last step to be done only after certain steps are taken and after certain conditions such as after explaining to the person that what he did is wrong and explaining about Islam to him and giving him certain time to think and asking him to repent and asking him if he has any doubts and replying to his questions, if he continues to reject Islam then this punishment is to be applied. If the person repents then he is not to be killed. Many people with evil intentions might accept Islam and then leave Islam and certain ignorant people may be affected by it. If a person was Muslim before it means they know THE TRUTH. A person who knows THE TRUTH must not reject it. It is a reminder to the person that not only will they receive the punishment in the life of the hereafter but also in the life of the world if they abandon THE TRUE Path. This will act as deterrent for that individual. Do you know there are plenty of non Muslims living in KSA and UAE? Ever spoke to them about their experiences? Do not lie about Islam. We are supposed to invite people to Islam with gentleness.

[@Majjjxx]

Why are you guys always under comments concerning the bible

[@chrisgreco4249]

Anyone can read the words of Christ and in a short time it will become clear that he speaks with a clarity of intent that is unique. Yes, the translations have been mishandled over time. Yes, scribes made errors when copying the Gospels by hand for centuries until the invention of printing press. But, still Christ's meaning will be clear to virtually anyone with a open mind, and more importantly an open heart.

[@sallygirl1012]

Not just errors, but intentional changes to control religion

[@chrisgreco4249]

@@sallygirl1012 The original manuscripts are lost. But, the words of Christ that we do have are more than enough imho to lead humanity out of the darkness of tribal warfare that has held back generations for centuries from fully realizing our true lives as given to all of us by the Creator. We must listen with our heart, see with our love. The Creator is present and always has been from the beginning. It is us who blind ourselves to the abundance and goodness that is found here on our Earth as nowhere else in the universe. We are blessed. Whether we see that, or not, is up to each of us.

[@HearGodsWord]

The fact we have so many manuscripts helps to ensure accuracy.

[@ari-qd6xj]

Bruh that doesn’t make sense

[@HearGodsWord]

@@ari-qd6xj it does.

[@ari-qd6xj]

@@HearGodsWord it doesn’t those manuscripts don’t even date back to multiple hundreds of years after Jesus y’all don’t have authentic evidence to it actually being authentic also the Bible has so many contradictions that makes the Bible an unreliable source of history also the Bible is not the WORDS OF GOD but people that say they had a close relationship with the son of god Jesus himself never wrote the Bible nor did any message from the father ever get send down also the Bible has been proven by many people to be not authentic enough to even be used as a history book since it has so much falsehood in it I would understand that if the Bible would back itself up but it doesn’t since it CONTRADICTS ITSELF

[@HearGodsWord]

@@ari-qd6xj you're so lost its almost funny. So much to correct but so little space here.

[@ari-qd6xj]

@@HearGodsWord there us no limit to how much you can type and im not lost I have been raised with a christian mother and mother side of the family went to church and read the Bible I know way more than you think

[@origamicrane685]

How were there so many people making copies? I thought almost everyone was illiterate at that time. How would we know if we found an original manuscript?

[@predatorL89]

Not sure who this guy is but within secs he made me go into critical thinking. Well done sir & God bless

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

Mentioning Deceiver Bart Earman was I needed to hear...... Proverbs 14:7 “Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.”

[@barnosho1611]

Amen, KJV only

[@frederickpile3599]

Proverbs 30:4

[@joshloriegable2181]

Matthew 5:22, “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.”

[@quantumlogix7209]

The original wasnt even in english ...and sometimes the same word in to different languages mean different things

[@bornagainalex2250]

Many people knew the different languages of the day. Nothing to worry about. The small differences don’t take away from the main doctrine.

[@TheFeelgo]

when proofing there is actually a god who creates us is hard. but you can not proof the original script with native language where it suppose to be easier

[@joshlane9878]

What he didn’t tell you is there are two lines of manuscripts. Byzantine and Alexandrian.

[@jakecantin2165]

What does your heart tell you? We must listen to our hearts. That's were God lives

[@ish9455]

This is the most unbiblical statement I’ve ever seen. Be careful, your heart can deceive you.

[@Bradspeaks683]

I really think the reason for the corruptions really plays into what being a Christian is all about not just about believing and trusting in Jesus Christ for salvation but also about how we are Christians because we are imperfect and in need of savior because of it. God gave the early Christians inspirations about what to write but as we all know The Holy Spirit can guide us when it comes to mistakes and sin but the flesh is the flesh and we will make mistakes.

[@bornagainalex2250]

The man said, the differences are small that they don’t affect doctrine. So Jesus is still God. • Jesus is God ✝️: Answering Muslims ❤️ According to the Qur’an only Allah can forgive sins, but in (Luke 5:20) Jesus forgives sins. • The Qur’an says only Allah is the ‘first and the last’ Jesus says that he is the first and the last in (Revelation 1:17-18). • The Quran says only Allah will Judge mankind and allow people into Heaven, Jesus says that he will Judge the World and allow people into Heaven and Send people to Hell. (Matthew 25:31-46) • The Quran says only Allah can raise the dead and only Allah will raise the Dead on Judgment day. Jesus raises Lazarus from the Dead (John 11:38-44) and Jesus says he will Raise himself up from the Dead on the Third Day in (John 2:19-21) and Jesus said that he will Raise the Dead on Judgement day (John 6:39) • There are so many other examples, that show that Jesus is God. When someone can do only what God can do. We can assume that this person is more than just a man/teacher. But God in the flesh. God bless you.

[@Bradspeaks683]

@@bornagainalex2250 Amen brother. Your right the differences are small God made it a mission to preserve his Word!

[@alexvalle7023]

Or maybe it is an excuse for you guys not to demand truth so that you guys wouldn't be obligated to give it or show it. Truth is your bible is full of errors and can't be deemed as divinely inspired or deemed the word of God.

[@muridi786]

@@bornagainalex2250 dear brother it's true that Quran says Jesus rose the dead but u haven't finished the verse and this obviously changes the meaning in the verse god was talking to the blessed prophet issa(Jesus)peace be upon him about the blessings he gave him like raising the dead through his permission as well as creating birds from clay and making the real birds through his permission and many other miracles so u can see in every miracle that prophet issa pbuh did god concludes they were done through his will

[@abulhassan02]

First of all when you have corruption in bible you cannot say jesus died for your sin and you get salvation.this very idea of salvation you are deriving from bible is actually from corruption. It's not from facts. A corruption is corruption it doesn't changes no matter how you sugar coat it and make it sweet to your taste. A book with corruption by humans doesn't becomes word or god or inspired by god. It becomes a not reliable source aka its not trustworthy.It becomes a lie, a deception. It's not truth. You should would question your belief if your belief is coming from a book which is not reliable

[@thezealouschristian9759]

Hello everyone. I am aware that there are between 400,000 and 500,000 textual variants in new testaments manuscripts. But when he says that does he mean in the 25,000 manuscripts or less? How many manuscripts are we talking about? Because if there are 400,000 textual variants in the 25,000 manuscripts that means there are just 16 textual variants in each manuscript. Or have a misunderstood something? 16 doesn't seem like a lot.

[@petrusraats65]

16 is not a lot,BUT depends on the weight those statements carry!! You could have only ONE contradition which e.g says Jesus is not God, the Council of Nacea VOTED on his divinity and it wouuld have tremendous meaning!!

[@tylearasworld3]

Becuase there are so many copies, mistakes are easier to spot. We compare all of the many many many texts to each other and are able to construct the original.

[@alexvalle7023]

truth is your bible is NOT the word of God nor divinely inspired.

[@tylearasworld3]

@@alexvalle7023 have you seen the end of time to determine this?

[@alexvalle7023]

@@tylearasworld3 I've studied your new testament texts thoroughly and they are horribly flawed. It is a shame that many of you are not honest to yourselves or to others about this.

[@tylearasworld3]

@@alexvalle7023 please elaborate on these flaws. Please tell me one...

[@alexvalle7023]

@@tylearasworld3 If you saw this video, you must have blocked out and ignored what he said. So long as you have that blind faith, and I do mean blind, you won't recognize the truth.

[@amessenger3208]

Thanks for this succinct discussion of this important topic. 🙏🙏

[@davidbrock4104]

Would love to hear Dr Wallace in person

[@ianofliverpool7701]

Watch what Dr. Wallace says in this interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKvRYqCsgZmifqM

[@inongbalee3092]

Christians doesn't have "sanad" (chain of narations) system?

[@sabrinafatine2485]

Like if sanad is something we can trust ... Most of hadiths are written years after Mohammad died

[@inongbalee3092]

@@sabrinafatine2485 lol sanad means chains of narations.. Meaning for each chains will be verified.. Chain a to chain b all the way till reach main sources ..after they all gathered, there will reverification process.. That's the reason why we can easily reject all false and made up hadits made by non Muslims

[@sabrinafatine2485]

@@inongbalee3092 no no there are some hadiths in Al bukhari and Muslim that are crazy to believe and also some of them contradicting the Quran

[@inongbalee3092]

@@sabrinafatine2485 it's due to lack of supporting knowledge those who read it,ussually there's a citations comment in it ..ie Abu fulan is marked as a liar,unthruswhorty etc but the chains will still continues all the way

[@sabrinafatine2485]

@@inongbalee3092 do you understand Arabic? Cause you know Hadiths and Quran are written in Arabic and for you to understand them properly you should know Arabic

[@gnarmarmilla]

Thank you for sharing this. I did however notice something worthy of talking about, this man fails to acknowledge that scriptural authority rest solely with Jesus Christ The Holy Spirit and because of this we must always petition Him to know which translation is correct. The scholars may argue continually, by I Am will never argue with The Holy Spirit. A propeht in Illinois received this utterance, “If ye rely on paper, paper will be your salvation. But those who rely on me will ask me what I Am has said and I will put my words on paper for you.” May God bless our scholars continually and may He bless them to chastise these thousands upon thousands of factions so that they will all follow one shepherd and stop putting other names in front of the name of God, Jesus Christ. It is written, “they will serve Him shoulder to shoulder.” Hereto, all who refuse to serve God shoulder to shoulder because of willful pride and arrogance will not inherit the kingdom of God or The Holy Spirit. I pray continually for the scattered Christians to see that denominations are a transgression and those who name their church are provoking The Lord to jealousy. Christ, the father and The Holy Ghost are one and they do not ever disagree, therefor, have no disagreements that separate you as believers and if you do have a disagreement, make sure to keep with repentance from your anger, pride and your unforgiving ways so that you may patiently pray together as one to the one God for an answer and the answer will come if you will trust God. “We do not separate based on doctrinal disagreements, brothers, no, we come together all the more. When a garment is torn, do you rip it apart and go away naked? No, you immediately seek to repair it if possible. I am not speaking of core differences wherein those who have fallen away are refusing to repent, we have spoken to you concerning these souls already, they have no fellowship with God and no good tree bares bad fruit so stay away from such people lest you become as they are.” Why do I say these things here? Because scripture is not being believed worldwide yet many many souls walk about testifying that they do believe while their works say otherwise. Gluttons, drunkards, fornicators, lovers of self and of money, adulterers and haters of men, such people are wearing crosses on their necks and attending weekly gatherings with those who are divided against Christ and yet who can blame them? Where will they go? The church is completely divided world wide, everywhere you look, and people do not have a holy church to visit because all have gone the way of pride and selfish ambition. It is written, “in the name of Jesus you must all speak and believe the same things.” So why disobey this teaching from God? Do you truly believe that The Word of God will judge you for disobeying Him? The integrity of scripture cannot be upheld by man, but only by God will it be upheld and so, the factions of this world cannot justify or keep scripture holy as they will not have The Holy Spirit to do so. Still, God will be faithful to us even though so many have lost faith. Remember the promise brothers and sisters, “all will hate you on account of my name.” I speak on behalf of God’s name and all through the world we know men like me who are calling for unity in Christ will be derided and avoided for saying these things, as all of God’s chosen ones are, that is, unless the sinners of this world change their ways in order to be united to God’s chosen one forever. May it be, and may the glory of God our king speak to justify and to guide these and all souls to everlasting joy and peace for God’s glory and renown. Amen

[@oldman_eleven]

Wow. Bravo. What is your outlook for the Jewish and Islamic brothers?

[@evilbikerider]

the mistranslation of crossing the reid sea to the red sea makes all the difference

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

strawman

[@JESUS_IS_KING777_12]

Finally, a smart man. When people translate something they do it in a way where they can understand it the best. Each manuscripts may have different ways of spelling or added a small amount of detail of understanding for the reader. But they all point to ONE message which is Christ Jesus is Lord 🙌🏾. The message of The Gospel is literally the point of the Gospel. All the manuscripts teach the same teachings of Christ and his purpose on earth. If one manuscript said Jesus was just a man there would be a problem. If another said he wasn’t messiah nor did he preform signs there will also be a problem. If one manuscript differed from what Jesus taught in the gospels there would be another problem. But none of them differ from the purpose and message of the gospels🙌🏾

[@ahmadalazam2474]

How did you know that the manuscripts have the same message and do not differ in this respect?

[@malchir4036]

"If one manuscript said Jesus was just a man there would be a problem." Yes, which is exactly why they didn't canonize the Gospel of Thomas, which can be interpreted as such. You're putting the cart before the horse: the Canonical Gospels were selected from existing manuscripts because they agreed with a canonical Orthodox view when Orthodoxy happened which caused enforcing that canon by heavy persecution, the Gospels didn't cause the canonization so you can say "oh look how perfect they align"(PS: which they still don't really, Mark has a differing Christology than Matthew and Luke and was a source of adoptionist heresies). 'On Heresy' by Irenaeus is very clear on that.

[@OfficialDenzy]

​@@malchir4036The Book of Thomas wasn’t considered canonical by the early churches, but rather heretical, according the 4th century church historian Eusebius. This was mainly because the Book of Thomas was a gnostic gospel and only appeared much later, claiming to represent secret knowledge that had previously been hidden. It would be more accurate to say that it was never included in the New Testament canon than to say it was removed.

[@quranicverses.2394]

Actually those are the words of Paul not the saying of Jesus. Jesus wasn't his name to begin nor did he preach god three in one. He preach monotheism same as the prophet before him.

[@JESUS_IS_KING777_12]

@@quranicverses.2394 what was his name then

[@gemsoflightdr.ayshawazwaz]

Dr. Sami Ameri in his book Hunting for the word of God talks with great evidence to answer the question “can we get to the original word of God?” Comparing between the New Testament and Quran

[@RoarT19]

Aysha Dear . Quran says Muhammad and Allah are False... Quran 5 ; 67 Quran 8 ; 71 Quran 52 ; 48 Sahih Muslim 2190a Says Allah is a false God Because he proved something Different Quran 69 ; 44 to 36 Sahih al bukhari 4428 Sunan Abu dawood 4512 and 4513 Sunan ibn maaja 1622 Sahih al bukhari 2588 Allah proves Muhammad is a false prophet... 🤷‍♂️

[@RoarT19]

@Safwan g Here you go . John 13 ; 13 to 14 Lord and Teacher ... What i am Misguiding ?? You read for Yourself Quran 69 ; 44 to.46 sunnah.com/abudawud/41/20 What do you say ??

[@RoarT19]

@Safwan g Yeah i know you would Say I says As if .. What about this .. sunnah.com/abudawud/41/20 There is ( No as if my Aorta is Cut )here 🤭🤭 And its Sahih ... What will you say now ?

[@RoarT19]

@Safwan g Sahih is Authentic Hasan is evident Daif is weak..

[@RoarT19]

@Safwan g I know that my Friend .. But Allah and Muhammad was foolish wenough to admit and exclaim that .. You mean to admit both of them Are fools .. Its not my statement Its your prophet and allah themselves sayong ..

[@salahuddinmuhammad3251]

The New Testament is primarily Paul's gospel and the changes that the councils did. Councils of nicea, constantinople, and antioch. They totally changed the message. They moved the sabbath, imagine that. Imagine the audacity of moving the Sabbath.

[@ikwikwi]

They not all different. You wanted them all to write verbatim what they encountered?

[@Anonymous-411]

Yes

[@maaragould6859]

Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. [7] Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

[@dashhill443]

So no real proof? Got it!

[@miken9059]

Maara Gould The word Lord is not in original manuscripts it also means Baal Baal means Lord and Baalzubub means Lord of the flies Even Strong's Bible Concordance and Young's Bible Concordance confirms that Baal means Lord Lord is also connected to the Roman gods Lars/Larth, Loride and Lordo plus other gods are called Lord and British Politicians are called British Lords Plus the Creator's true name was removed from the scriptures including the Messiah's true name and it is against the scriptures to subtract and add to the scriptures this also means that we cannot change the names but man changed the Messiah's name to Jesus which comes from the root of Yeshu and Yeshu means to boot out and Obliterate the Messiah's name and Memory Jesus is also spelled Hesus in Tagalog language even though Hesus was the name of a Celtic God who was also called Esus Hesus and Aesus

[@LiberatedMind1]

Too bad "God's" word is corrupted, mistranslated, full of errors and contradictions.

[@Ibrahim-vx5kq]

@@LiberatedMind1 nice to the know the Qur'an isn't tho,the oldest verses of the Qur'an were found in 2015 in a library in a Birmingham university and they are the exact same as the verses in the Qur'an of today,BBC news,which is the British state funded news channel,even said that the verses were the exact same and they're radio carbon dated to the time of prophet Muhammad

[@AbdallahM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4G1mGSnadiVj7M Is Jeremiah's prophecy about Christ

[@thebibleisright100]

The most important part is Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life that’s the most important part that never changed

[@MI-vn4tp]

Please watch if you want the truth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4Lcp3eOfdZgbLs&feature=share

[@MI-vn4tp]

Safwan g please watch the video if you want the truth.kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4Lcp3eOfdZgbLs&feature=share

[@MI-vn4tp]

Safwan g Make you love Islam more? That’s a big LAUGH. The same one wrote the Koran that wrote the New Testament. 😂 The Roman Catholic Church related Christianity and Islam.

[@boringboi3092]

I don’t follow blindly. What this guy says is important

[@carlwebstern5065]

Came across a site called - doesgodexistandbeyond.com/manuscriptevidenceofthebiblepages/ looks at Manuscript History with Logic and Reason, using Primary Evidences. Also has information on other topics not well known. Worth a Read.

[@debeern1]

What do you think of the Pure Word translation of the New Testament?

[@darwinbocalbos]

I think the question (...when all the earliest copies disagree with each other?) can be misleading, if not over-simplifying. Mr. Wallace forgot to mention that there are 2 textual variances and doesn't mention which of those have disagreements. Bart Ehrm-- who? Kidding.

[@terryautry6493]

for people complaining, even though there are variants, those are copy errors and mistakes. like in greek one letter can change the whole meaning of the scripture. that's why we have textual criticism. it all comes down to knowing that the messages are the same in all the WORD of GOD. these variants exist because some of them were rushed like the textus receptus which was done by a guy named Erasmus. the fact that we have thousands and thousands of manuscripts, there are no contradictions among them

[@ianofliverpool7701]

Watch what Dr. Wallace says in this interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKvRYqCsgZmifqM

[@aaronwhite1479]

There are, however, a great number of contradictions within the books of the Bible. Compare the 4 gospels. Glaring contradictions within them that must be reconciled or ignored.

[@terryautry6493]

@@aaronwhite1479 the gospels dont contradict one another. i dont know where you get that

[@alexvalle7023]

@@terryautry6493 the gospels do contradict each other. Stop lying to people.

[@terryautry6493]

@@alexvalle7023 for someone who doesnt understand the bible, you are so sure about yourself

[@1952monkey]

a remnant, chosen by grace. ... it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. Romans 11:5 . we are not of those who shrink back (to the OLD Testament) and are destroyed, but of those who have faith and preserve their souls. Hebrews 10:39

[@AbdallahM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4G1mGSnadiVj7M Is Jeremiah's prophecy about Christ

[@protruth5133]

قناة و الحق يحرركم - The Truth Shall Make You Free no he was created by Romans kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaOboKKpZZV9g9k

[@ianofliverpool7701]

James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead. James 2:24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. (We are saved by Faith and good works not faith alone)

[@theorthoguy9345]

difference for example in greek john is ioannis pronounced yannis so depends on the writter or for example 1 verse say in the entire jerusalem the other say in the entire city of jerusalem , or for example joseph saw the angel in a dream and told him to leave with jesus to egypt , or the angel appeared to joseph in a dream ordering him to take jesus and marry to egypt until he call them back ... well different spelling same meaning same story

[@ianofliverpool7701]

Watch what Dr. Wallace says in this interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKvRYqCsgZmifqM

[@traildude7538]

Ἰωάννης is pronounced "Ee-oh-ON-ace"

[@theorthoguy9345]

@@traildude7538 yowanis

[@waywed]

The "long ending" of Mark (widely agreed as spurious) is mentioned but lumped in with "minor textual variances". That is hardly so when its inclusion is critical to supporting the resurrection of Jesus. Without it the gospel of Mark ends with women discovering an empty tomb and keeping it secret.

[@j.d.taggart3758]

The heptatic structure found in the so-called added verses in Mark proves without a doubt that they were there from the beginning and not added at a later date. The probability of the heptatic structure of the last so-called added verses of Mark being the work of some enthusiastic but mislead scribe pushes the mathematical boundaries of the ABSURD. Research Borel's Law and then research the heptatic structue of Mark. Like the heptatic structure found in tge geneology of Jesus in Matthew it can only be attributed to the fingerprint of the Holy Spirit!!!

[@larrym2969]

Not really it says that he was resurrected in Mark 16:6 no? Doesn’t seem to impact the narrative to me.

[@locksmithlocksmith7941]

so the fact that 1 john 5:7-8 is an insertion doesn't affect the doctrine of trinity?

[@FriendOfChrist]

Zondervan has another teaching on the Trinity if you're interested. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2SbknaHidmWpMU

[@hello855]

Locksmith Locksmith The trinity can be proven outside of 1 John 5:7-8.

[@FriendOfChrist]

@@hello855 - Even in the OT. The Trinity is at the heart of Isaiah 48:16. Who was it God and His Spirit sent? Whoever He was, He was there from the beginning with God and the Spirit of God: which points to John 1:1. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Wallace does a great exegesis of John 1:1 at www.billmounce.com/newtestamentgreek1/exegetical-insight-chapter-6-daniel-b-wallace.

[@locksmithlocksmith7941]

@@hello855 1 john is the only explicit verse. do you agree that 1 john 5:7-8 is historically an insertion?

[@khalilmuhammad6242]

The trinity is pagan John1:1 the word god has 2 meanings check the hebrew god = el(singular) elohiym(plural)let us make man in our image or YHVH depending on context same in greek god = theou(singular) theous(plural)or theon(The Father) they tricked us through translation now nobody wants to study hebrew or greek 🗝

[@wadetaylor3195]

Isaiah 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever: Psalms 12: 6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. One thing that all textual critics agree on is this: man cannot have Gods pure Words in his hands. They just don’t believe the verses.

[@Thecrazygangstaboy]

True, we have to believe Gods Word over anything.

[@AbdallahM]

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[@freedomofspeech9612]

Thats why you preserved Mark 16:9-20 even if it's not truly wrriten in the original manuscript. wake up!

[@wadetaylor3195]

@@freedomofspeech9612 It’s always truly been in the Textus Receptus.

[@redentorcarino2280]

Show me the differences of the manuscript.

[@HappyHermitt]

How? There aren't any. Duh

[@SusScrofaVulgaris]

So what we have is the message and the differences doesn't change the message? Awesome. God be praised. Also blows the "it was all fabricated" line out of the water too.

[@bogarde]

I have not yet been able to meet a person who can answer my question. the question is, every time Jesus preached from the gospel he received from his lord, was he preaching from the gospel of Matthew, Luke, Mark, John. or did he preach from another gospel that no one else had.

[@aloudah1810]

According to Quran Jesus Issa received a revelation a book to preach monotheism but after 3 decades it shifted to trinity by greek Christians who were affected by idol worships & the doctrine was established thats what history tells us The original message was lost it is not what you have now It has been altered through different methods ex translations fabrication which has been proven by Christian scholars We as muslims believe the bible still has some truth we verified it by matching it with the only unchanged & preserved book that has also been passed generations upon generations orally memorized So we have 2 routes for preservation oral & text which match as a matter of fact UK Brigham has the oldest copy of Quran which dates back to the prophets peace be upon him We simply want the truth we muslims are commanded to think & ponder for ex. In science quran is accurate with what scientists consider as facts from medical cosmological architecture geographical but unfortunately the same cannot be said about the bible One example quran mentions that sun is shine of light while moon is a reflection of that light to know the days of the year & month yunus verse 5 Bible Matthew 24:29 moon doesn't shall not give light meaning doesn't reflect Isaiah 13:10 -Isaiah 30:26 moon reflects You can check it your self I hope that answers your question If you want more i can help & also you can do your research on the contradictions of the bible among it self & todays science

[@aloudah1810]

If I wasn't clear no luke mark john some of them weren't with jesus infact they wrote the gospels 50 to 60 years after jesus presumed crucifixion Look for ahmad dedat zakir naik they are better for explaining in detail

[@bogarde]

@@aloudah1810 I know bro I'm a muslim too

[@aloudah1810]

@@bogarde oh okay that explains your intelligent question i thought u were Christian who is asking questions Slam alykom brother

[@ami5898]

I’m no bible expert. However, your sarcasm aside, no, Jesus preached God’s words. And these four authors which includes Jesus’s disciples wrote those gospels after Jesus’s death & resurrection. There’s no necessity to put down another person’s beliefs or religion. And if a religion is taught to do so, or if people put other religions down by trying convince people that their religion is superior, I see no point of having those “beliefs”. To summarize all Jesus the son of God sent to Earth by heavenly father taught love and forgiveness. If that’s hard to digest just practice love, and forgiveness and put all the rules and laws aside.

[@satriorama4118]

As a Muslim, I always wonder about this. Muslim read Quran in arabic all around the world no other way, Jews read Torah in hebrew all around the world no other way. So why Bible are translated into many languages and many versions...? Do you guys have ever questioning why they made version after version..? Like, how can words of God be revised again and again.

[@SuleimanTheMagnificent71618]

You're right

[@mbmb729]

Jesus spoke Aramaic Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic are very similar, really fascinating!

[@carlwebstern5065]

Came across a site called - doesgodexistandbeyond.com/manuscriptevidenceofthebiblepages/ looks at Manuscript History with Reason and Logic using Primary Evidences. And has other topics with information not well known. Worth a Read.

[@gabrielaprofetaphillips1740]

God, from the beginning wanted his word to be available to all the nations, so the translation follows his wisdom of making revelation available to all not just a group of people who speak one language. The Bible is Bible in all languages, not just in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. And we are grateful for that!

[@proudtobeamuslim10]

@@gabrielaprofetaphillips1740 Torah came of Hebrew(Moses speak Hebrew).The Coran of Arabic(Muhammad(sws)speak of Arabic.Jesus spoke of Aramaic but the New Testament is of Greek Language.

[@cattips_]

The first texts of the New Testament were written 300 years after the year zero. This means that twenty-five generations could not read the New Testament. Is it likely that the entire content of the New Testament was told orally in its entirety during this time span? If this is what happened, maybe the New Testament is true. Is there any statistician who can give us the probability of this?

[@Angel-jy5kg]

If we put together the books of the different denominations would we have a close?

[@elroyswarts513]

Wow!I LOVE this.

[@AbdallahM]

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[@AbdallahM]

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[@benrabahsouad2935]

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[@ianofliverpool7701]

Funny watch what Dr. Wallace says in this interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKvRYqCsgZmifqM

[@bornagainalex2250]

The man said, the differences are small that they don’t affect doctrine. So Jesus is still God. • Jesus is God ✝️: Answering Muslims ❤️ According to the Qur’an only Allah can forgive sins, but in (Luke 5:20) Jesus forgives sins. • The Qur’an says only Allah is the ‘first and the last’ Jesus says that he is the first and the last in (Revelation 1:17-18). • The Quran says only Allah will Judge mankind and allow people into Heaven, Jesus says that he will Judge the World and allow people into Heaven and Send people to Hell. (Matthew 25:31-46) • The Quran says only Allah can raise the dead and only Allah will raise the Dead on Judgment day. Jesus raises Lazarus from the Dead (John 11:38-44) and Jesus says he will Raise himself up from the Dead on the Third Day in (John 2:19-21) and Jesus said that he will Raise the Dead on Judgement day (John 6:39) • There are so many other examples, that show that Jesus is God. When someone can do only what God can do. We can assume that this person is more than just a man/teacher. But God in the flesh. God bless.

[@fiddah]

We Muslimeen believe Isa (“Jesus”) ‎عليه السلام is a great Messenger of ALLAH . Isa (“Jesus”) ‎عليه السلام never told people to worship him. He worshipped only ALLAH. Isa (“Jesus”) ‎عليه السلام is a great human. A human eats food and drinks water. ALLAH CREATED us. ALLAH Doesn’t need anything. ALLAH doesn’t need anyone. We should worship ALLAH Alone. Do read the Qur’an

[@bornagainalex2250]

@@fiddah What you need to do is find a verse where Jesus said "Don't Worship me". People worshipped him and he never rebuked them. Jesus said: John 5:23 English Standard Version 23 that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.

[@trabob4438]

But there was things added to the bible like the ending of mark, 1 john 5:7 and the woman caught in adultry in john. Also most of the texts we have today are way after 3rd century.

[@Mr-pn2eh]

We already have the complete Bible translated into English. The 47 translators back in 1611 translated the Bible from the original Hebrew and Greek into English so we wouldn't have to. Hendrickson and Oxford University press are the only 2 publishers left that have authentic AV1611 Bibles available for regular people like me. MANUSCRIPTS ARE IRELEVENT!

[@filiplavonen5252]

There aren't any 'original' manuscripts available today (they disappeared for almost 2,000 years ago). Just wanted to let Daniel Wallace know that...

[@pastorstevenfurtick5208]

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[@TheHerbdude]

He states that there are no original manuscripts quite often.

[@galaxya6406]

Are you mean Autograph or Manuscript

[@JonahGhost]

The versions we have are EXACTLY the ones our SOVEREIGN LORD intended for us to have. Before Lord Jesus comes back.

[@JonahGhost]

@Achraf Er-ramy Not only the bibles but even Joe Biden getting elected and everything going on in this world evil and the good is expected. All we have to do as believers is to keep our faith and trust in the Lord. God is in control.

[@ayassines5841]

@@JonahGhost God is in control but Jesus is not

[@JonahGhost]

@Achraf Er-ramy If the Quran is real that means it’s fake. Surah 3:3 نَزَّلَ عَلَیۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَـٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقࣰا لِّمَا بَیۡنَ یَدَیۡهِ وَأَنزَلَ ٱلتَّوۡرَىٰةَ وَٱلۡإِنجِیلَ ﴿ ٣ ﴾ He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. The Quran says Torah and the Gospel is real. The Gospel says Jesus is the son of God. Quran denies Jesus and calls him a prophet. You cannot say the Gospel is real then deny the divinity of Christ. Because Jesus coming in the flesh; dying sinless on the cross to forgive our sins is the core of the Gospel.

[@JonahGhost]

@Achraf Er-ramy Then one might say, who was the angel that came to Muhammad to give him this fake theology? As the Quran says the Gospel is real, you can find the answers in the Gospel. 2 Corinthians 11:14 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!

[@JonahGhost]

@Achraf Er-ramy One might still say, if the Quran is false how come God allowed this to happen??? The answer is simple. If you are a Muslim you should all read the Quran! When you read the Quran; you should automatically be led to read the Torah and the Gospel. Surah 3:3 نَزَّلَ عَلَیۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَـٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقࣰا لِّمَا بَیۡنَ یَدَیۡهِ وَأَنزَلَ ٱلتَّوۡرَىٰةَ وَٱلۡإِنجِیلَ ﴿ ٣ ﴾ He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. Once you read the Gospel you will know the truth. Nobody will be able to stand in front of the Lord God and be found innocent. We are all GUILTY. CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS, BUDDHISTS. it doesn't matter... Only Jesus can take away sins and keep you blameless in the presence of the Lord God. Not Buddha or Muhammad but Jesus. Nobody is good we are all filthy rags.

[@sy8607]

Ok, as a fellow believer I refuse to blindly believe anything. How about the small variants?

[@lepidoptera9337]

The small variants are distracting you from the fact that the there are enormous falsifications in the overall Christian theology in comparison to the actual meaning of the text. By selectively quoting one line at a time they are taking your eye off the forest and directing it towards the individual trees. That's by design. :-)

[@sy8607]

@@lepidoptera9337 Your take on this is accurate, but accurate to some and not to others. I have taken some classes on these topics myself and not because I wanted to be a preacher but because I wanted to know for myself and individuals like the one in this videos have studied these things so in-depth that the average person that doesn’t understand this things may adopt conspiracy theories as similar to what you shared. I liked your comment because what you say is true but of the Catholic Church during those times and with all the advances in technology and the reformation of the church things because more clear and more accessible for us all to study and make our own minds.

[@davidjfoto]

Interesting video. Bart Erhman, as sited in this video as a primary authority, is an agnostic. It should be noted that Zondervan/ Harper publish his work. My intent is to not be accusatory in this but simply to say: When creating a defense of ones belief in the Scripture, some more study should go into those sited as authorities on it. Bart's thoughts on Christianity can be found in this quote: “I myself am an agnostic. I identify both as an agnostic and as an atheist. I completely identify with the humanist agenda. I don't hate Christians and I don't think they're foolish. . . But I do think that if you want to promote a humanist agenda, the best way to do that and the best way to promote conversation is not to advance a position that most people in the world either have never heard of, or when they do hear of it they just think it's silly. And so I think that there are better ways to promote what I take to be the agenda lying beneath it all.” (Robert Price vs. Bart Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? Mythicist Milwaukee 1:51:02-1:51:41).

[@doug2993]

Good points!

[@DP-mj2dw]

Is it all a lie? Please tell me it's not

[@UmaiAna98]

It's not all a lie, it is just wrongly translated. You can look up the Torah And the Quran. En find the similarities between them. The bible is so much more different than those other 2 religions. That says a lot. Even the name Jesus is not right.

[@Jesus_is_Lord_and_King]

@@UmaiAna98 so much more different? what are you talking about? can you prove it?!

[@roomyrems6759]

Matthew 7:14 KJV It’s not different, these are all Abrahamic religions. Lol

[@AbdallahM]

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[@FlowerRFabulous]

not a lie. seek the holy spirit and not man. John 5:39 search the scriptures; for in them you think you have eternal life:and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that you might. if you are not careful, you will get mixed up in man's philosophy and "estimated conclusions", but when you take it to Jesus with a genuine yearning for learning he will open up the scriptures for you regardless of man's mistakes.

[@aumyousefnasser9359]

You are right that why all Christian they are confused.

[@saranwright7113]

Exactly. All Christians are lead astray. Confused is an understatement.

[@bornagainalex2250]

Did you watch the video? He talked about how these little changes don’t affect doctrine.

[@rejim.philip9431]

​@@saranwright7113 uhm.. I literally heard that this "Bible" was written by Simondis in 1839..

[@thomistica_]

so just like any historical document ??

[@oussamadjeridi1701]

if you don't know what your original text is like ??? what makes u think that the text in your hand and the copies are the same as the original one and that is written by the true student f Jesus and who says that jhon lukes .... are the same people who were there with Jesus, to begin with?

[@lerayshaaen]

I truly believe the books that are in the bible are meant to be in the bible...Jesus knows the past present and future and he knew what would happen...God has wisdom beyond human understanding...with that being said what is in the bible today I truly believe is meant to be there... John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

[@trustme7660]

Thanks for this verse

[@A4CBrand]

Amen

[@eho6380]

The Bible has lots of errors, made by humans.

[@fleonardo5801]

You're free to believe what you want, however, I disagree with the point that "Jesus knows the past present and future and he knew what would happen". If you read Mark 13:32 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Clearly, the Knowalafe of Jesus is not like the knowledge of God 'The father'

[@trustme7660]

@Fahad Al We don’t advocate for Jesus we can’t grasp his or the father’s thoughts we read his promises and the warning signs he gives us and we’re supposed to be ready for his coming at any moment

[@bornagainalex2250]

He talked about how these little changes don’t affect doctrine. 🙏 Jesus is still God.

[@vilsonherra3329]

Bruh

[@godspeed7717]

I can see the effect in your comment itself. Jesus is a fake name.

[@godspeed7717]

@AM Messiah prayed to God because he is a human being same as us while* that time.

[@godspeed7717]

@@abdulazizzahrani3414 1. Jesus is not GOD. 2. Ha Massiha is Elohim himself in human form. 3. Isa is not the Ha Massiha mentioned in the Scriptures. 4. If you read Quran you will know that Isa is not God but a prophet. *Dude everyone knows that.*

[@shabamuhidin634]

you mean your jesus as god was circumcised by people😀😀Mr. jesus is not God

[@RachelsBadAssJamz64]

What are you talking about? The Sea scrolls have been found and it has been proven that they are at least two thousand years old. Now the New King James Version has a great amount of varying degree, and missing text based on the Original Version.

[@rosaghafoerkhan6376]

Waar is de Iendjil van de profeet Iesa ibn Mariam, iw god en godin?

[@TheZyzyzyzyzy]

Well. What about sources which were destructed? You still have only the manuscripts which survived, but there were many which were destructed to promote only the official version. The second thing. 4 Gospels from the Bible are quite different. The same stories are narated diffrently, some gospels doesn't contain some significant parts of the story. Why? Is there a chance some stories were fabricated? How we can be sure they wasn't?

[@AbdallahM]

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[@trafficjon400]

So what ? you are saying changed but nothings changed when you know God and Grace. the rest is history is history. Gods spirit will tell a believer.

[@wazzaspeedbump6416]

It’s a shame how we criticised ancient scholars for making minor mistakes

[@celiaescalante]

It's cool how the sets were given the name, "testament."

[@jamoriah]

I know that when I read the new testament my soul is filled with light, from above. Flesh is flesh. Spirit is Spirit.

[@aloudah1810]

I encourage you to read the same story that mentioned in the different gospels you would find great differences i think you have an index for such a thing

[@ricko9860]

@@aloudah1810 So you want to say The whole New testament is lying to us.

[@aloudah1810]

@@ricko9860 not the whole thing but you can't tell which is which For example many prophets in the testament are sinners that doesn't befits prophets peace be upon them The contradictions of many events. the same story is told in different numbers or facts or names Verses were discovered to be a fabrication of 6th century when the 4th century scripture were found Like timothy 16, jhon 5;7 mathew 28:19 Has been identified as such by Christian scholars If the text has been manipulated without anyone memorized it or the original manuscript you can't find out which is which

[@teefx5681]

@@ricko9860 why do you follow something that is not from God and corrupted

[@ricko9860]

@@teefx5681 what do you advise me to follow?

[@jshir17]

*You can’t and further the New Testament never claims to be Scripture nor do it’s authors ever claim to be inspired or use phrases that one sees in the Old Testament such as “Thus says the Lord,” “the Word of the Lord”. St. Paul even says in two of his letters “I have no command from the Lord, but this is my opinion” & “I am writing to you with a human argument, not as the Lord speaks”* *Moreover, for those Christians who say that only the original manuscripts are inspired and not the apographs or translations, then what makes their sermons, prayers, and worship have any validity since they are not in the Biblical Hebrew or Greek*

[@ivanos_95]

Applying to the historical manuscripts as the authority for verifying the Bible, only because of their date, is a method used specifically by the secular scholars, or trusted by the protestants who lack a better alternative, and it's a basic error from the Orthodox perspective, because a late date of a document doesn't necessarily make it the original one, or more authentic than any of the newer documents, especially when the oldest manuscripts are missing most of what we are using in the current canon of the Bible, and thus suggests that we would have to reject all the current canons, only due to a lack of evidences, which is a ridiculous idea.

[@NephilimFree]

The New Testament of the KJV is based on the Textus Receptus, a variety of the Byzantine family of New Testament manuscripts. Modern translations (e.g. NASB, NIV, ESV, HCSB) are based on the Nestle-Aland text, which is based on the non-Byzantine, Alexandrian family of manuscripts which were made by pagan gnostics in Alexandtria and Rome. The Alexandrina texts are corruptions which were even known as corrupt in the first couple of centuries after Christ. Origen (c. 185 - c. 253) was the leader of the church of Alexandria (Egypt). Regarding the manuscripts which were being produced by gnostic scribes and which almost every modern Bible translation is based, said in the early third century "...the differences among the manuscripts [of the Gospels] have become great, either through the negligence of some copyists or through the perverse audacity of others; they either neglect to check over what they have transcribed, or, in the process of checking, they lengthen or shorten, as they please." Eusebius, an early church leader, admitted that in his day: "corrupted manuscripts were so prevalent that agreement between the copies was hopeless." - Wilkinson, op. cit., 15 The King James translation is the only existing Bible which is not based upon-Alexandrian manuscripts. The KJV is an essentially literal translation (word by word). The ESB, NIV, and NLT translations are based on a translation philosophy called “Dynamic Equivalence” made popular by Eugene Nida of the American Bible Society. With Dynamic Equivalence, translators act as interpreters rather than translators. Thus readers of these dynamic translations end up reading the interpretations of scholars rather than the actual biblical text. All modern translations are based upon a new Greek translation made by Brooke Foss Westcott and Fenton John Anthony Hort, which was then used as the basis for a further translation made by Eberhard Nestle and Kurt Aland. Here's some shocking information about those men which explains their corrupt translations: Brooke Foss Westcott and Fenton John Anthony Hort * Heretics who held esoteric, gnostic views about God and Christianity. * Thought the death of Christ on the cross for our atonement was immoral and could not be true. * Dabbled in the occult with famous occultists (The Ghost Club/Ghostly Guild & The Eranus Club) * Acknowledged to each other that their views were heretical to protestant Christianity * Did not believe Genesis 1-3 were actual history * Expressed favour of Charles Darwin's evolution theory of common ancestry * Expressed disgust at the doctrine that scripture is the highest authority * Did not believe the autographs (original New Testament documents) of the apostles were infallable. * Despised democracy and expressed communist views * Expressed favour of the communist/socialit views of atheist philosophers such as LaSalle * Supporters of the Roman Catholic Church and commended it's heretiucal practices * Despised protestantism * Despised the Majority Text * Spoke to each other of the need to get their translation widespread into the public to undermine it's expected rejection Eberhard Nestle - Kurt Aland (Nestle-Aland) Translation * Nestle did not believe the NT was inspired or true * Nestle thought the canonicity of the NT autographs was dubious * Nestle thought the authorship and dates of the NT autographs was dubious * Nestle expressed faith in the Alexandrinus, Sianaticus, and Vaticanus MSS * Aland did not believe the NT was inspired or true * Aland thought the canonicity of the NT autographs was dubious * Aland thought the authorship and dates of the NT autographs was dubious * Constituted a departure from all prior translations with liberal interpretation * Authorized/funded by The United Bible Societies, who by 1831 had placed Unitarians, do not believe in the divinity of Christ, in important positions * Was declared to be the "New Textus Receptus" * Based upon the works of Constantin von Tischendorf, Westcott-Hort, and Richard Francis Weymouth * The United Bible Societies supported the Pope and entered into agreement to have the Vatican participate in future revisions * There are a total of 356 doctrinal passages that are affected * 5,604 differences between Wescott-Hort and Nestle-Aland and involve 9,970 Greek words * 2,886 Greek words were omitted from the Received Text, in English the length of the entire books of 1 and 2 Peter

[@CowpokeCannoneer]

You know, a few things that always baffles me is... After thousands of years, Christianity is still here. So many non believers say that Christianity is “built on the sand”. Mhhh, then how is it still the most prominent religion after 2000 years? Pretty strong sand if you ask me. Another thing is why did it even become so big? If a religion exploded into something as huge as it is today, there’s probably a reason why. A few people believed in Jesus, and there were a lot of non believers. And then everyone believed in it out of nowhere. Why? Why did Saul of Taurus who killed Christians became Paul, one of the greatest apostles proclaiming that Jesus in the son of God? Maybe because it actually happened. There’s a whole other thing with the embarrassment of the Bible. Everything written was embarrassing to whom wrote it. They all said they were dull and didn’t understand Jesus’ teachings, that the disbelieved Him, that women found the tomb (who would not be considered reliable sources) why would they say they found the tomb empty? It all makes them look weak and stupid. Listen if you’re trying to kickstart a religion, you aren’t going to put that you denied the main person of your religion in there. It’s all too humbling. Even if we don’t have the original manuscripts. Even if the copies are off. The conclusion is the same in all the copies. If I say “break a leg” and “good luck”. Guess what. You know what they both mean. The actual wordage might be off, but the message is the exact same. The stories maybe have a ton of little contractions and mistakes. But it doesn’t change the story. It’s just dumb to deny it. Even Islam recognizes Jesus for what He did. They just said he wasn’t the son of God. But they still said He performed miracles and did all the miraculous things that it said He did in the Bible. Why? Because it’s true. It just is. All these religions are centered around Jesus Christ. It’s a fact.

[@Name-el9ps]

The entire pantheon of Greek/Roman gods were no match for a homeless Jew executed as a common criminal. Rome adopted Christianity because they had no choice. The Truth unveiled and spread uncontrollably. The satanic beast system, which still exists today, had no other option but to demote their gods and allow the people to worship Christ. Yea...they almost certainly did some tinkering, but they would never would have even been put in such a position of having to care about this peasant story in the first place if it wasn’t true.

[@minuterepeater2257]

@ CowpokeConnoreer Which isnt hard to explain at all, since its foundation lies it being a state religion, which was spread and forced down by sword and indoctrination. Thats how it managed to survive and it being lucky enough to be around at the right time. Nor does the fact its still around says eaything about it being the so called truth. It doesnt matter whatever time periode you take all civilizations with their religions couldnt inmagine their religion would ever be replaced, but sooner or later it will happen. Which will also happen to your copy paste christianity.

[@MrStyle-sr1yv]

Brother Adnan explains the difference in islam and christianity about Jesus pbuh and why you should believe Islam has the right answer btw by saying all these religions only christains and muslims accepts Jesus pbuh...watch the video until the end kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppS5pmyilriLb6c

[@bartleon]

John 14: 21 He who has My (Jesus) commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.” 22 Judas (not Iscariot) *said to Him, “Lord, what then has happened that You are going to disclose Yourself to us and not to the world?” 23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me. John 21: 24 This is the disciple who is testifying to these things and wrote these things, and we know that his testimony is true. 25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which if they *were written in detail, I suppose that even the world itself *would not contain the books that *would be written. 1 John 3: 22 and whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do the things that are pleasing in His sight. Where can one start reading the Bible? John (4th Scripture of the New Testament) and/or Acts of the Apostles (5th Scripture of the New Testament) Romans 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

[@MrStyle-sr1yv]

@@bartleon Jesus pbuh never claimed he was God or told people to worship him anywhere in the bible so stop pushing these arguments in our throats man HE WAS HUMAN LIKE HE SAYS IN THE BIBLE and he was praying and worshipping his creator !!! GOD DOESNT WORSHIP ANOTHER GOD.

[@nopretribrapture2318]

The scriptures don't correlate, i too have studied for many years and there's multiple contradictions, especially escatologically speaking.

[@1689solas]

No there aren't. Keep studying sweetie.

[@CJFCarlsson]

@@1689solas the text seems strangely robust, compared to all other ancient texts, an enigma to non-christians. And yes, sky scan is a bit of a sweetie.

[@LiberatedMind1]

@@1689solas Study this sweetie : “The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father…” - Ezekiel 18:20 “I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation…” - Exodus 20:5

[@LiberatedMind1]

@@CJFCarlsson Engima my ass : “The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father…” - Ezekiel 18:20 “I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation…” - Exodus 20:5

[@fongchienyoong7656]

@@LiberatedMind1 With such a level of sarcasm, you would get along well with the mainstream rendition of Jesus who was pretty sarcastic too.

[@mohamedgad808]

@Winter BearMia You have a comment requesting a help in contradictions. If you still need a help. I can help you find good sources.

[@bluwng]

Nothing compromised, says who and how would they know?

[@Parisplayz-mp1tx]

We played this sentence game where we used to line up kids in a long row like 10 kids and we would whisper to the kid in the start of the line to pass along to the next kid by the time last kid says the sentence it completely had lost its meaning. I hope you get the comparison, it's not good way to preserve any text let alone something like that for 2000 yrs

[@12steps2JESUS]

I agree! Except that for the New Testament it wasn’t a word thing , they wrote it down! We didn’t have so many manuscripts and the differences are minimal, don’t affect the doctrine, and are mostly spelling.

[@mynameisibukun]

But you’re assuming biblical translations were derived through a form of “chinese whispers”. They weren’t. Translation 1 got its translation from Source A. Translation 2 got its translation from Source A. Translation 3 got its translation from Source A. And so on... hence why there’d only be a certain amount of meaningless or non-impactful contradictions as mentioned in the video.

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

False comparison, you're first using children, these were not children, secondly you're applying the same level of severity between both subjects with a broad stroke when that's just obviously wrong to assume, and thirdly, you have multiple attestations of gospel early on, the 12 disciples and other followers, that have their own recorded observations of the events when they occurred. It's not one to one to one, it's more like 12 sources then out to 200 sources, and so forth, and all of them can and will connect back to one another through rigorous scrutiny. The comparison of a telephone game to the gospels is just an elementary counterargument to make, and easily disproven.

[@YanGon-jt4yu]

You Are Wrong. The context define the meaning of the scripture, not the different words used. We Christians don’t need to validate the book, God protects and bring the Word to us one way or another, and with the help of the Holy Spirit we are enlightened.

[@OncePlayed]

Jesus said he will send a comforter to us that will show us unto all truth John 14:16 which is the prophet muhammad pbuh, the Quran which contains all the truth from beginning of time to moses to jesus and end of world. Try do research

[@OncePlayed]

@Micky Calebro just go search about Prophet Muhammad in the Bible, watch ones which are made by muslims.

[@raymondsaint4156]

@@OncePlayed how could a man who had sex slaves be considered a comforter? The comforter is the Holy Spirit, not an Arabian warlord.

[@victoriabrown3314]

Joseph Solomon please, give it a rest! Do your own research including hundreds of errors and contradictions in Sahih Hadiths that refute the Quran. The Quran contains errors and dead ends. Read for yourself, don’t just pass along what you’ve been told

[@OncePlayed]

@@victoriabrown3314 I've done my own research, but I'll remind you when that day comes, it will be too late. You said Quran contains errors and dead ends, come bring it here i dare you,show it, let the people here see it, please.

[@sunrise8015]

No two copies agree with each other? In what sence

[@moesypittounikos]

When experts say manuscripts were lost through copying and copying, it gives the impression that a scroll lasts a generation before it evaporates and so the scribes are in a hurry to copy and copy and so they make mistakes. Bart Ehrman has made a carrier out of saying, with his scholars hubris, "they made mistakes", and, ergo, "we have no original manuscripts", because they made mistake etc. So all those copies, a hundred a century until we get to the fourth century! However, a dose of critical thinking leads me to think the Codex Siniaticus was on a book shelf for 1600 years, in perfect condition, in that monastery. And it was written only 300 years after Jesus. So how are the experts so sure that the very original manuscripts were not around by the fourth century? After all, we have ancient books in perfect condition around today. Even the Didache was found sat on a shelf in pristine condition! So maybe the Codex siniaticus is copied from the original manuscript. Surely this isn't stretching anyone's thinking!Jesus's

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

If what you're saying is the original texts are out there just simply not found, I mean that's just an assertion that we can't prove if we don't have it. It's an interesting idea for sure to think that the original writings are understood to be holy writings and thus are preserved under greater care than these other general manuscripts, but that's just conjecture that I have no way of proving.

[@jayjay-bz3rr]

I’ve been a Christian since 1978 and I’m still looking for the most accurate Bible translation.

[@NephilimFree]

Obviously not. It should not have taken you more than a few weeks or months of intense study to discover that that the KJV, although imperfect, is the superior translation. You are looking for a Bible which perfectly matches a set of beliefs you have about the tenets of Christianity and what happens to us when we die, not the most accurate translation. There is no such Bible. Accept what the Bible teaches and move forward.

[@washedinhisblood.3906]

@@NephilimFree your saying the textus receptus is superior to the critical text and the majority text? 🤣🤣🤣. Why do you say that?

[@jayjay-bz3rr]

@@NephilimFree I am looking for a Bible that’s the closest to the original manuscripts. KJV fails. KJV has a lot of added in by translators.

[@connorpusey5912]

@@jayjay-bz3rr NASB 1995 is almost unanimously declared to be the most accurate English translation.

[@jayjay-bz3rr]

@@connorpusey5912 That’s what I have. NASB 1995 👍🏻

[@knightclan4]

Critical answer for many skeptics!

[@ianofliverpool7701]

Funny watch what Dr. Wallace says in this interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKvRYqCsgZmifqM

[@ianofliverpool7701]

Funny watch what Dr. Wallace says about the New Testament in this interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKvRYqCsgZmifqM

[@justathoughthere]

So what does that mean for the KJV controversy in the English speaking world?

[@Mr-pn2eh]

The 47 translators back in 1611 translated the entire Bible into English. The translators work was already finished. The more these critical text crackheads say we are getting closer to the original, the further away we are actually going from the original.

[@justathoughthere]

@@Mr-pn2eh and you know this because ... ???

[@Mr-pn2eh]

​@@justathoughtherebecause the 47 translators back in 1611 actually spoke fluent massoretic Hebrew and konie Greek in everyday conversation. All these scholars you see here can't even speak Greek or Hebrew in everyday conversation. King James himself didn't actually do any of the translation laboring himself, he just simply provided the funding and gathered those translators together and basically told them to have at it. These 47 translators feared God, and they trusted God instead of themselves. They prayed a ton and did not rush with their work thus the process took many years. Each of the translators checked and double checked and even triple checked each other's work. The evil known as the Jesuits even tried to sabotage the process in 1605 by sending guy fawkes to blow up parliament in order stop the translation. Of course God's word prevailed. The Bible says that if it be of God it can't be overthrown. The 1611 Bible was not able to be stopped therfore the AV1611 is God's word. And reprints of that same Bible are still available today (and don't actually cost that much even in today's inflation). Hendrickson and Oxford University press are the only 2 publishers left that have authentic AV1611 Bibles available. Your honor I rest my case

[@ggductor1511]

You follow the themes, if you don’t see it in the tanach or it’s type your on shaky ground,the scribes were Jewish who copied it meticulously , and the one who helped bring it together was Saul of tarsus,where believers get in trouble is when they say the NT is errorless,these were letters written by many different individuals as clearly stated in the beginning of Luke’s gospel. We( believers) box ourselves into corners when we make certain statements. But we still know that Jesus is Lord

[@dehawu7434]

I believe the Bible

[@pocopongpong7948]

Yes, lot of people belive in copy of bible. People belive, without investigating truth.. if know the truth, dont want to belive the truth, dont wamt to accept the truth if bible is not original. U belive it, not belive prove n research. This is up to, coz when u died, u will give reason to god. But god will ask back, u already have prove but why still dont belive,. Goodluck

[@AbdallahM]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4G1mGSnadiVj7M Is Jeremiah's prophecy about Christ

[@janetapia5928]

Same uwu

[@user-mv3dc6yu3q]

@max marrero want debate

[@user-mv3dc6yu3q]

@@giovannigobbi4832 ?

[@HienMugen87]

A lot of muslims dont understand that even the bible is translated over time, the essential belief that Jesus comes down, do good things, ask his followers to follow him and resurrect from dead is not jeopardized.

[@ayassines5841]

We understand that and we don't have a problem with It. The problem is that you Trust a book that It's original copies were lost and changed to match the Roman mind of believing in human shape God with Children that are also Gods. But Quran came for correction, that God is one he is never born nor he begets and that there's nothing like him in this world. But you people insist on believing in myths.

[@ayassines5841]

I swear when Jesus will come back , he will break the cross and he will gather everyone to worship his Lord and ours, but If by the will of God you were alive at that time don't cry.

[@HienMugen87]

@@ayassines5841 its good that you believe in the resurrection of Jesus. Good for you! If you think Quran is without corruption pls do more research and listen to unbiased view. The person muhammad could be even a legend!

[@ayassines5841]

@@HienMugen87 That's what you think? Ok Great!!! let God judge Us for What we just sayed , knowing that he is witnessing our discussion .

[@HienMugen87]

@@ayassines5841 Sure no problem! I cant wait to meet my savior Lord God Jesus in next life for He saved me from my sins. Have a great day!

[@noelwhitman1788]

He said all that with a straight face.

[@terryautry6493]

oh and another thing. we who are saved are not to give that which is holy unto dogs. yes there are manuscripts with variants but the meaning does not change nor the message. those were copy errors and mistakes. some got rushed. the original more ancient of manuscripts are used in most translations. the newer 0nes is what the KJV used.

[@zarathustratata834]

I Believe and Love the Bible...spl New Testment❤

[@salah777]

your bible is full of mistakes you worship a god killed by his own creation how stupid you are

[@Randomhandlename]

SALAHEDDINE BOUGOUFFA *and don’t forget god cried and was breast fed also had his diapers changed and came out of woman’s private part*

[@salah777]

@@Randomhandlename yes christianity is a fairy tail

[@ToninoterRessort]

Holy Spirit guides in to truth and makes the red line very clear. God stooped down in Christ to give us freely, by His own all atoning Holy Blood and indwelling Holy Spirit, the divine life back, the first Adam lost in the fall of man. God has already come full circle. Hence the healing miracles with Christians who understands... www.anewcreationinchrist.nl/english

[@ToninoterRessort]

@@salah777 Holy Spirit guides in to truth and makes the red line very clear. God stooped down in Christ to give us freely, by His own all atoning Holy Blood and indwelling Holy Spirit, the divine life back, the first Adam lost in the fall of man. God has already come full circle. Hence the healing miracles with Christians who understands... www.anewcreationinchrist.nl/english

[@natashalane8843]

Who destroyed the Original And why

[@mdsajidislam9614]

Rome empire did they burn old trastament and temple of solemon, after isa(jesus) rome epire did again burn bible, torture to marks, jhone others..

[@dkvlog7322]

The church hide the truth

[@TasFirinErkegi]

They did it so the church would control people. People payed churches to go to heaven. They said they sold tickets to heaven. They just wanted money not the words of the god.

[@menace2societies]

THE FALLEN why do you think so?

[@TasFirinErkegi]

@ilisoir 18 Yes I said it was changed.

[@abcd-wg2iq]

It is the message that survived.

[@musicrock_]

Is gospel of Jesus still exist?

[@rangerbeast]

No

[@rangerbeast]

Jesus' disciples always thought that the end of the world would happen in their lifetime because Jesus always told so. So they did not write down Jesus' thoughts. Some old bastards later proclaimed that they had got the spirit and whatever they wanted they wrote. The main bastard is Paul