How CollegeHumor Became Irrelevant

[@Transdimensional]

I'm guessing they all graduated..

[@frysank]

we all do

[@kryptomanik]

Actually, they Dropped Out (ha ha get it because their current subscription service is called Dropout).

[@shuzuc1724]

@@kryptomanik :(

[@The_Hairy_Hermit]

@@kryptomanik please never explain a joke again, you are welcome.

[@KT-qk9ip]

@@dropout already have and dont regret it at all

[@babishculinaryuniverse]

Man these are fascinating and really well done, but I am not looking forward to watching the one about me. "How Binging with Babish Lost it All and Went Insane Trying to Perfect the Cheese Grater (He's Finally Dead)"

[@nutcrackerreal100]

fitting end.

[@sisronweasley2074]

Death by Banana probably

[@catdog69kool]

I foresee a Howard Hughes like downfall, but instead of making the world's largest plane, you try to make the tiniest whisk.

[@LickMyMusketBallsYankee]

A verified with a crappy generic comment. Let it be known I was here before KZbin shoved this to the top of the comments

[@maducrutz9384]

Damn didn't think to see ya here babs, hope ya well

[@AirmanJack89]

They actually aren’t that bad in a position right now. Their app is doing good. Their D&D stuff is incredibly popular and their game show format is doing great

[@Matheus_Braz]

Im glad to hear that

[@CrizzyEyes]

CollegeHumor has D&D content? Now I'm morbidly curious

[@AirmanJack89]

@@CrizzyEyes oh it’s amazing and played true to the game but very funny. It’s called Dimension 20. They even have some stuff with Matt Mercer?

[@charliecoke7396]

@@CrizzyEyes First 2 and a half main cast seasons are the absolute bomb. After that, the lacking of other high traffic content on their streaming service lead to basically all their funds flowing into the D&D part which, like Critical Role, ended up kinda mutating and warping the thing. If you watch you may really enjoy the like 6 seasons after A Crown of Candy (Season 3) but I don't know, there's a shift in there, and it just kinda changed.

[@MythrilShotgun]

@@charliecoke7396 Dimension 20 dives in on thematic stuff pretty deep with shorter campaigns. I really dug Mice and Murder, but bounced off "The Seven". The content is different enough that I can't hate on it myself.

[@bonzupippinpaddleoxacoppil484]

This is such a bad take you’d think it was written by Grant Anthony O’Brien.

[@novAviator01]

Which stands for Grant Anthony Of Brien obviously

[@evertime123]

50?

[@CalebRuiz]

I will 100% add my voice to the “Dropout is worth it” crowd. Maybe these guys aren’t good at making money on KZbin but they are dam good at making content

[@wasprider7239]

I watch more dropout than I do Hulu or Netflix.

[@ColeCash]

@@wasprider7239 it’s easily one of the best value subscription services for me, right there with KZbin. I’m excited to see them hopefully grow a bit now that the pandemic is chilling out.

[@colleen6440]

Definitely, Dimension20 alone is perhaps the best DnD live play on the internet, and I say that as a Critical Role fan. GameChangers on top of that made it an easy choice to subscribe.

[@Kevin-sf9zr]

thx to the woke cancel-culture.

[@tim.noonan]

@@Kevin-sf9zr a comment devoid of substance from a mind much the same

[@deepbluesaltsea]

Something to note is that when CollegeHumor lost their funding, they still had months of content that had already been filmed and was either on track to be released or in post production. The technical staff focused on completing the content that had already been filmed, and they continuted their Dimension 20 series, as DM Brennan Lee Mulligan was the only creative who was retained during that fallout. Also, much of the creative staff still appears in videos, though it is likely that most of them are paid on a project basis vs Brennan who is on the payroll. The transfer of power from AIC to Sam also happened right before the pandemic which made it nearly impossible to create new content under COVID guidelines until more recently. As they return to their studio, I am hopeful for a revival of the brand.

[@SirBlackReeds]

But it won't be the same as back when it was edgy, when it had bite.

[@Agaetis181]

so edgy they follow covid guidelines for two years

[@SeymourDisapproves]

@@SirBlackReeds It's hardly cutting edge to make the same kind of content for a decade. Besides, what you're describing is the natural life cycle of an entertainment career. Edginess isn't sustainable, especially if you don't want to keep kicking out older writers and roping in new ones just to get a chance at keeping your "edgy" card for a couple more years. The culture changes, people who were the products of that culture age and change, and at the end of the day I'm glad that the people who have been working at College Humor for years are still working there and working on projects they actually seem to enjoy instead of either being tossed or being confined to the kind of content they made in the past. I'm glad things are different now.

[@meliya7816]

I agree, this is the one thing I take a bit of issue with in the video.

[@A_Ducky]

So they had a lot of unreleased material.. and then Covid happened? I would think that to be a good thing.. ?

[@thedankgnasty1890]

Collegehumor is gone, but Dropout is still going strong as ever, Dimension 20 and Gamechanger are so goddamn good.

[@ZombodyDead]

Agreed. Breaking News is also excellent.

[@suki426]

Yeah I will admit it was a bit strange to me that none of that was mentioned

[@mossdeep]

gamechanger is excellent!

[@patt5085]

Matt and Brennen are a ray of sunshine wherever they go

[@thedankgnasty1890]

@@patt5085 very true

[@suntzuandrew]

One year later seeing how well Dropout is doing puts this in perspective. A real "My death was highly exaggerated" moment.

[@MyMika2004]

i mean, its a complete rebrand so can you really attribute college humor to that?

[@mirtos39]

@@MyMika2004 i mean a rebrand is one thing, but its still the same shows that was being done towards thee end of college humor. the fact is its "no-longer in college humor". In otheerwords, its Gen X and millenial not Gen Z humor. But its always been aging.

[@MyMika2004]

true, but just because you change the content before rebranding doesnt mean its not a new thing. im sure theres many others like me that loved the previous skits and stuff and while the show is well made, its a completely different thing @@mirtos39

[@ocdemon8999]

I really don't get why people expect these homebrewed drama news reports to be accurate 😂

[@CharlieSmurffy]

yeah dude the channel averaging less than 50k views in its last 4 videos is really booming.

[@prodigyproductions1373]

I honestly only knew this channel cause of the "If Google Was a Person" videos. But hey this video was very entertaining to watch. 👍🏼

[@SevenHunnid]

I got fired from my job because i almost beat up my 50 year old coworker.. and It got toxic yo so now i smoke weed on my KZbin channel now, meanwhile i get back to the hustle 🥶

[@tihs402]

your comment has been invaded by bots lmao

[@GoodlyPenguin]

I skinned a Italian boy alive in 1997 and I showed the evidence to the police but they didn't care.

[@SophieMerau]

Isnt it called „If Google was a guy“?

[@Logan-td8yk]

Jake and Amir is worth a watch

[@Flea]

this channel was my childhood, after your buzfeed video it made me think what happened to college humour. KZbin 100% doesn’t promote them anywhere near as much. Sad

[@rikamelo100]

But they didn't fall wtf? They're putting out full on productions on their app and making that money for themselves. They still make great videos just behind a pay wall. But hey anyone watching a dude literally clickbaiting us.

[@tayslaywift9361]

@@rikamelo100 defending paywall and deflection. Yep, looks like someone's salty.

[@rikamelo100]

@@tayslaywift9361 oh shit sorry I forgot internet is against making money. I'm sorry you feel hurt.

[@SuperiorChaotic]

ok

[@monkeydoesnotpaytaxes]

who the fuck is faze flea

[@exploderwrestlingpodcast2721]

I think the problem also was something unavoidable: they grew with their audience. I watched CH when I was in college and the humor was what you'd expect. Staff and cast moved on (Streeter, Sarah, Jake, Amir, Adam, Dan, etc) and the new cast filled in. But by the time they did, the tone shifted from college kids to people adjusting to the "real world", jobs and etc. Then it morphed into just office stuff. Funny, but it was just cubicle talk from a brand that used to produce legitimately funny music video parodies. As they grew up, they resembled basically everything else on the internet and got drown out by literally everything else. And I like many of the later cast members (Grant, Katie, Mike Trapp, others), but I also can't tell you the last time I sought out one of their videos, even going pre-layoff.

[@thawhiteazn]

They are still producing great content through their Dropout service. They’re going the “quality over quantity” route at the moment and I’m a big fan.

[@YouKnowMeDuh]

That's to be expected. The only way any channel can stay true to a certain audience is to have members of that audience contributing to the content: college aged people. Only college kids know what college kids want 🤷 last video I watched from them was with Badman explaining how his one rule was to not kill, just for people to realize that Badman doesn't even know what killing is. Both my mom and I got a good hoot out of that, and that's one of the only later videos I go back to.

[@YouKnowMeDuh]

@@thawhiteazn Interesting. I don't blame them for using that platform. KZbin just isn't the place for them anymore, mainly because KZbin's policies are so harsh on channels like that regarding monetization.

[@logTopic]

You nailed it

[@nicolew672]

straight fax. on their old websites they said no one allowed over 32, I mean they must be well in their 40s. College Humor had a good run! Rip

[@author_abe]

I cannot express enough how worth it dropout is. The content is incredible and idk if I’ve ever laughed so hard in my life as I have watching their shows

[@Gh0stSh33p]

I haven't watched this vid yet but I'm guessing it's gonna be biased because dropout is amazing and the company seems sustainable

[@encryptify3625]

I bought dropout for one reason: Fantasy High

[@author_abe]

@@encryptify3625 if that ain’t true. I just finished s2 last night

[@vegitoboy7780]

Love all the DND content and especially Game changer

[@author_abe]

@Arthur Morgan what a shit take

[@graysonspider11]

As a current member of Dropout, I feel like I can give some insight behind the paywall (lots of text be ready): 1. Skits are gone. They are solely doing about 5 full series now, which get new episodes either weekly or Bi-weekly. These series are: Dimension 20, their dnd show with Brennan Lee Mulligan Game Changer, their game show with Sam Reich Um-Actually, their correction game show with Mike Trapp And Breaking News, their no laugh game show (I said 5 because they have the occasional side project) 2. All of the cast is still there...kinda. You will still see the full CH cast (Ally Beardsly, Grant O'Brien, Lou Wilson etc) on any and all projects, it's just that they are hired on for the individual projects, not full time. (Something like that, don't correct me) 3. They have a pretty good amount of support. If the number of people in the dropout exclusive discord is a fair measure of support, they are doing very well. Even if you said half of the members on there only subscribed to a month or less, thats still several thousand members paying $6 a month for a production team of probably under 20 4. The Content is really well done. While you only get about 2 to 3 new uploads a week, the content is genuinely strong enough and unique enough that I have no intention of canceling my subscription any time soon.

[@graysonspider11]

You'll also see a lot of comments saying they just recently learned about CH, thats because they are going extremely hard on making a lot of "Shorts" content, which is huge on KZbin right now, drawing in a lot of traffic

[@mattiesteck7604]

@@graysonspider11 They also have a ton of stuff on TikTok as well

[@michellel9739]

They have solid staff (writers and producers)! I like the new shows but they are different from their past content. Which is good! and should've been done waaay earlier.

[@lauramarschmallow2922]

Yeah, the problem is that "umm actually" and dimension20 are put out on other chanels, that's why assumed they also went indipendent like drawfee or some more news. Visited their youtube page and they only posted those terribele "don't laugn newsroom" stuff so I thought they were dead.

[@jccjccjoanne]

I only liked the CH skits and never the other content (animated videos, breaking news, umm actually, etc). Thank you for confirming what shows are available under the sub.

[@nathaniel201]

Other people have mentioned this, but a lot of this isn't quite accurate to CollegeHumor's current situation. The general arc of their history and loss of funding is correct, but the company's doing much better now than the video makes it out to be. Long story short, they are profitable at this point in time. Their business model is pretty much entirely focused on Dropout which still has a lot of content being produced. Dimension 20, their D&D show, is incredibly successful and has a strong fanbase, and they still produce mostly unscripted content like Game Changer, Um Actually, and Breaking News (the last one is technically "scripted" but it's the same concept). The KZbin channel is pretty much there to draw people into Dropout at this point, as that's how their business is structured now, and they have other side channels for the individual shows (like Dimension 20 and Game Changer) that do the same thing. Although most of the cast members at the beginning of 2020 don't officially work for them anymore and they're doing their own things, they're all still very good friends and come together on a project-by-project basis. They don't really see themselves going back to a lot of the scripted content anytime soon, as it just isn't financially sound, but they're doing quite well on the unscripted content. No disrespect meant to SunnyV2. The video provides a good intro to the topic. But it's important to know that Dropout is thriving, and, in my personal opinion, it's producing some of the best stuff out there. Everyone's working together to keep the content going, and better yet, they're all lovely people having a great time while still pursuing their own careers. It's a wonderful sight to see and it's honestly much more hopeful than it may seem at first glance.

[@SirBlackReeds]

Shill, we all know that Dropout isn't harkening back to their edgy era. They have to keep it clean for sponsors/advertisers, and they sure as hell don't want to be labelled as problematic. Not to mention that the main channel has a hard time reaching 1M viewers, which is still a fraction of their subscriber count. That is in no way good.

[@nathaniel201]

@@SirBlackReeds I won't deny the content's changed in several ways, and the discussion of whether CollegeHumor is "as good as it used to be" is subjective. I really like the stuff they're producing now, and a lot of other people do too, but it's not for everyone. Anyways, it's beside the point. The discussion is whether the company is successful, and the fact that the company is profitable is seemingly true. Sam Reich has explicitly stated this, and I can't think of a reason why he would lie about that. The fact that the KZbin channel isn't their main source of revenue is also no secret. So a lack of views there doesn't mean they're not successful. It's also worth noting that the argument of "they have to keep it clean in order to make money" doesn't really make sense since Dropout is ad-free and they don't censor things on that particular platform. If there is a lack of "edginess" in their content now, it's because the people have changed, not because of financial restrictions.

[@abcdefg2120]

@@SirBlackReeds Dropout has no sponsors or advertisers. It’s a subscription service. I’m not subscribed to it but it doesn’t take a shill to realize you’re talking our of your rectum.

[@tim.noonan]

@@SirBlackReeds stop embarrassing yourself, they don’t have advertisers. That’s why Dropout was created in the first place.

[@georgepeters6073]

I agree I've been subbed to dropout since it came out and the contents great. Dimension 20 is one of my favourite media series'. I think it's unfair to analyse the yt channel but I would love to know the number of subscriptions dropout gets

[@josephl5128]

Collegehumor has gone from strength to strength via Dropout, survived an almost unfathomable situation with the job cuts and funding being pulled, and is a successful streaming platform that has outgrown its youtube channel, something that seems to be glaringly omitted.

[@thepjup4507]

the video is about "CollegeHumor" the youtube channel. It's not about the people associated with it and their ventures, it's about the youtube channel alone. You said it yourself, "outgrown its youtube channel", which is complimentary to the title and content of this video. So you agree.

[@jalepezo]

yeaj, sunny v likes to throw stones and gawk and caw at people for no reason: no sarcasm implied

[@ugaboj]

@@thepjup4507 Yeah, but DropOut is literally just CollegeHumor going back to having their own independent site. The name changed, but its all the same people that were on CollegeHumor. It's like saying that Facebook is gone, because its rebranded to Meta. Its the same company, doing the same things, just through a different platform. CollegeHumor is literally just the youtube channel for posting Dropout content now. (Plus they have made additional new youtube channels for clips from their invididual DropOut shows.)

[@komentierer]

@@thepjup4507 College Humor is the parent company to Dropout tv

[@Kaarington]

@@thepjup4507 oof bad take

[@andrewharris5327]

Literally only clicked on this video to make sure that the comment section was setting the record straight about Dropout, aka college humor, absolutely thriving with their new model. Glad the people know what is actually happening.

[@jaigermeille3482]

Lmao they fell tf off can’t even get 1/15th of their subscribers to watch 😂😂😂

[@Thats-a-wipe]

i understand your inclination to kind of go down with the ship and act like they are thriving but in all reality they aren't.... this video unfortunately didn't see these next 4 years coming. Ive been watching college humor since its inception and even I have to accept the fact that its dying. They have even resorted to starting to repost old videos as new content in hopes to scrape some money without having to spend it in production. They don't post nearly as frequently and when they do there are a fraction of the viewers. Its so sad. Its a new era. They have had 5 videos in the last year that have gotten over 500k views (including the reposted videos from years ago). Maybe their profit margin is better due to the massive lay offs but it cant be "thriving". I hope so badly that they turn a corner. College humor was in the background of much of my life. That being said im going to subscribe to dropout immediately to try and support. I have only heard good things.

[@Theworldiscomplex]

⁠@@Thats-a-wipe I mean there’s like a ton of new shit on drop out that’s fun. Can’t really saying anything about stats given I don’t know any of them for this company but a bunch of new shit is on dropout

[@takeyourheart1]

@@Thats-a-wipeTheir streaming app has like a million subscribers bro, they are doing very well.

[@AirmanJack89]

@@Thats-a-wipe they are absolutely thriving because they figured out what works for them and their new audience. The ultimate sign of your company’s health is engagement with your audience. They sold out Madison square garden and went on a whole tour of Europe…so yes they are thriving

[@queazeproductions]

As a frequent “dropout” content watcher I don’t think they failed, they changed course. The game shows are great and dimension 20 is phenomenal.

[@SandwichGlitch]

D20 is one of the best dnd stuff ever filmed

[@summonersriftgarbage4426]

They didn’t fall out still now dimension 20 is still kicking, sunny V2 is just sloppy asf and generally picks a point of view from the get go

[@jaymanishere13]

@@summonersriftgarbage4426yes because laying off 90% of the staff screams success

[@michaeldoran4367]

@@SandwichGlitch VEINY BLACK KOK OUTLINE SEEN THRU TIGHT BASEBALL PANTS

[@DRCx_]

D20 and Game Changer are gold

[@Ruminations09]

This video feels like it ends the story 1 year early. CH is currently doing great. The reason this video makes it look like it's suffering is because it's focused on the KZbin channel, but there's a specific reason the KZbin channel looks the way it does now: it's no longer the focus of the business. Dropout is. And Dropout is doing phenomenally well, with some of the best content CH has ever made. The company is now profitable, and Dimention 20, Gamechanger, and Um Actually are all extremely popular.

[@encycl07pedia-]

I guess that's why I've never heard of "Dimention" 20, Gamechanger, or Um Actually... because they're all extremely popular...

[@Ruminations09]

@@encycl07pedia- SunnyV2 has well over 2.5 million subscribers. With the sole exception of this one single video (which I only saw because I'm a fan of Dropout), I have literally never heard of this KZbinr. I had never seen any of their content before this video, and in the 6 months since I watched this video, the only other time I've been made aware of SunnyV2's existence was literally right this moment when you replied to my comment on this video. Nonetheless, I think it's fair to say that a KZbinr who has achieved such a large following could be fairly called "extremely popular" despite the fact that I personally have never heard of them. Sometimes people just don't hear about popular things. Dropouts current shows (most recently adding Make Some Noise to the list of shows mentioned above and also including Breaking News which I didn't mention last time) **ARE** all very popular. The fact that you, personally, have not heard of these shows is completely irrelevant.

[@Vekcrazah]

@@Ruminations09 oh wow, that was a slow but painful burn

[@encycl07pedia-]

@@Ruminations09 2 million subscribers in 2022 isn't that great. This isn't 2007. Extremely popular is like Katy Perry or Justin Bieber. Linus Tech Tips has over 10 million subscribers and I wouldn't call him extremely popular, either. Just because you've heard of them doesn't make them extremely popular, either. Somehow I doubt anywhere close to 10 million people subscribe to Dropout. SunnyV2, to whom I'm not subscribed and only recently watched his videos, might have more subscribers than Dropout does. I'd love to see figures on how many people are actually paying for the most obscure streaming service I've ever heard of.

[@Ruminations09]

@@encycl07pedia- All popularity is relative. Katy Perry and Justin Bieber are popular in the mainstream (or... they were like a decade ago), but that's not the only definition of the word. I'm not going to sit here and argue over what "popular" means because it's not a rigidly defined word. Honestly, if your definition of "popular" excludes someone who literally *millions* of people have heard of, then I feel like your definition is too restrictive.

[@JamesRoyceDawson]

Running a comedy channel indefinitely is basically impossible. I’d say CH got a decent amount of years at the top and that’s as good as it could get. They started the careers of many talented comedians and writers. I’d consider that a success

[@cmm3699]

I love seeing familiar past members names, and especially faces, in more mainstream media. I totally geeked out when I saw streeter in an snl skit a few months ago.

[@jacobammon]

Yeah I feel like Jake and Amir/Headgum is killing it. Sarah’s show is on HBO now and it’s been mad successful

[@cyberzombie038]

This, as times changes so does trends.

[@MAORIguy25]

@@jacobammon especially Jake being a part of NADDPOD, Murphs DnD project with Emily (from CollegeHumour) and Caldwell (was on Drawfee, but mainly other stuff)

[@OmniDan26]

simp

[@beaugantz4888]

So it seems like most of us agree that this guy either isn’t aware of what CollegeHumor has really become or decided to ignore it for content. Dropout is worth it, some of the funniest and most charming shows I l’ve seen.

[@viewer-of-content]

I just wanted to say that Collegehumor also split off basically every show into a different KZbin channel. Some with there own patreon pages, seperate corporate structures, and decent viewership. Everyone slimmed down staffing and used the promoted guest or contract work model though. Really it just makes it look like everyone who was friends kept popping up on others content and that properties was split to better monitor and prioritize user donations, since you can't ad monitize large portions of there work. Collegehumor spinoff channels include: Lowbrow (the contracted animation studio) Um Actually! Dorkly (seperate brand before layoffs) Dimension 20 Drawfee Dropout The biggest thing I notice is the reduction in set pieces and travel locations. Now they're sticking to set places much of the time to actually make some profit maybe, also cheaper location filming is probably banned in California during focus unless you get a permit for waver. Really I'm just glad to have seen some things stay alive and focus on financial sustainability.

[@DeathnoteBB]

Drawfee is now independent of Collegehumor

[@mobi4482]

@@DeathnoteBB yeah I was gonna mention that. Pretty sure they've been independent since the layoffs too

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@mobi4482 No it took a few months for the legal stuff to be decided

[@mobi4482]

@@DeathnoteBB ah my bad. I guess I got some of that stuff mixed up cuz I got into drawfee after they Became indipendent

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@mobi4482 I mean, you’re not wrong, just it took a while, cause laws or whatever

[@NotEcons]

I didn't actually get really into CollegeHumor until 2021. Now, I'm subscribed to the Dropout service. I dont regret it. As a matter of fact in the official Dropout discord, the CEO Sam Reich states that Dropout is currently profitable. Dimension 20, Um Actually, and Game Changer are all great shows.

[@kenkune55]

Yeah I'm really hoping they keep up the great content. I had mostly ignored College Humor in recent years but Game Changer has been absurdly funny.

[@Correa24bori]

I was gonna say lmao. the overreaction to "CollegeHumor died" is like no one realizes that dropout exists. And it's honestly worth the $4-6/mon without advertisers for really great shows. D20, GameChanger, Um Actually, BNN, and many more.

[@alexdavis665]

I wonder if they'll resurrect dead series like Paranoia or Ultra-Mecha-Tron Team Go

[@LickMyMusketBallsYankee]

@@Correa24bori Well CollegeHumor did die. They lost most of their staff, were never profitable and have one video that they just reupload with a different coat of paint on the main channel now. The peak success of CH ten years ago is gone, even the post peak comedown is dead now. The channel and the idea of CH is gone. Dropout isn't College Humor, it's a successor to it in the modern form. A subscription streaming service. It's successful because it's just that, and those are all the rage right now. Once the fad of a million different subscriptions dies out we'll see how well Dropout holds up. But for now that's alive and well, so people will continue to pay for content of equal quality to their former KZbin videos. (That they used to watch for free.)

[@Correa24bori]

@@LickMyMusketBallsYankee technically dropout is owned by College Humor media. Sure the CH name and brand as we know it did die a few years back. But I wouldn’t expect a 23 year old digital media company to remain the same. Dropout is simply the next evolution. And if anything the content of a paid subscription service like dropout, offers a higher quality of video than anything KZbin can offer. And to cap it off no ads. I’d rather my money go towards content I like and enjoy than watching something for free a quick minute that’s subpar quality.

[@grahamwaldo331]

This leaves out a lot of stuff. Adam Conover a former cast member and now the host of Adam Ruins Everything (which started as a CH series) said that one big reason for the company’s downfall was that they got misleading metrics from Facebook and KZbin. It made them think that videos were way more profitable than they actually were. This led them to neglecting things like the website. Also with regard to the channel’s current videos, those are all from dropout and were recorded in 2018-19.After the layoff, they had to put nearly all of their time and energy into the platform that was for sure making money as opposed to the one that was dependent on ads. And they have continued making new content for dropout. Recently they seem to have built up enough of a buffer to start really increasing the budget on some of their projects. I know it’s behind a paywall, but you could have paid $5 to see that there was a very steady stream of new stuff coming out and then canceled the subscription.

[@craigyeah1052]

Yeah I was surprised this wasn't mentioned. They hint at and mention it in their own videos so even I knew, and this is supposed to be a documentary.

[@zekeiwa5837]

This guy doesn't research jackshit as long as the video gets past the 10 minute mark. Just a poor man's Down the Rabbit Hole

[@Miglow]

Or just made a free trial account.

[@oliviacarolinanogueira7769]

yeah, if you're trying to tell CH's history without the whole fb mishap you're basically lying and CH's dropout is doing p good afaik

[@bobby218]

people at facebook should’ve went to prison (and sued for damages) for what what they did to hundreds of companies and thousands of lives by knowingly misleading people with their wildly inaccurate video numbers. what they did amounted to fraud and the theft of millions (billions?) of ad dollars.

[@indigo.isaWake]

They didn’t fail, they just have a smaller, yet SIGNIFICANTLY mroe dedicated fanbase that pays for their content, and is actually thriving off that model.

[@EnclaveSgt]

Definitely not worth paying for

[@Desopolis]

@@EnclaveSgtdropout is 100% worth paying for.

[@EnclaveSgt]

@Desopolis hah not for cringe woke content they make now

[@elytra404]

@@EnclaveSgtits so much more then that, dimension 20 and game changer, make some noise, etc. its wonderful. and yeah some of its 'woke', they've always been left leaning. if you think they weren't before you didn't really watch it

[@godemperorofmemes992]

​@@EnclaveSgtthe brain rot is terminal, I'm afraid. You'll never awaken from this state, but the good news is you can still digest Ben Shapiro commentary and maybe enjoy NASCAR until they acknowledge a gay driver or run a Bud Light commercial. My condolences for your lost grey matter.

[@DoubleL11862]

There are some things to note here. CH content wasn't limited to its main channel. It could also be found on the Um Actually channel, Dimension 20, and Drawfee (the latter now independent from CH). This is not even taking into account the Shorts that they have been putting out recently which are doing really well despite them being chopped up clips of their shows on Dropout. This has been a real boon to their membership count according to Sam. I can personally advocate that Dropout is well worth the cost. They regularly have 3+ new videos a week with no drop in quality of content (some drop in quality of video during the pandemic though). I wouldn't count them out just yet. It seems like they are rallying back.

[@DeathnoteBB]

They never left. I can’t imagine why people think they ever died, but I guess they strictly watched the Collegehumor channel, never saw any of the spin-offs/series they made, and decided being cut off from IAP meant they were dissolved. Because they’ve been going strong for the entire time, just no longer doing sketches.

[@kratoast9469]

Yeah, I agree. They make some REALLY good shows (Total Forgiveness being one I’ve just finished recently). Not having Drop Out sub numbers here really skews the picture. From what I can tell, they’re doing the right stuff to build a loyal and engaged audience.

[@DeathnoteBB]

@Sabizos Bruh it’s literally the same as it was before it went independent

[@DoubleL11862]

@@chhoyla I always saw Dorkly as a sister channel to CH. But I believe you're right.

[@kbub1234]

Is dropout worth it if game changer and dimension 20 are basically the only things I care about from it?

[@AlexBowesVideos]

Just like with Smosh, the mismanagement of the brand ultimately led to the channel's demise. Very sad

[@oliverbs0417]

Smosh is doing perfectly fine check the Chanel still millions of subscribers new management, it has had no demise yet

[@NeoRidero]

@@oliverbs0417 yeah but we can't deny Smosh is just a shell of what it used to be, as a channel (not talking about content).

[@teddysoul85]

@@oliverbs0417 smosh fell as hard as stampy did. they never grew with their original audience and that damaged them, their still around ofc but its never going to reach its peak again

[@unnot5706]

It always happens to the og channels

[@Strato_Casterrr9898]

@@teddysoul85 that is true. However, you should check out SMOSH PIT. It gets more view than the main channel, and its jsut the cast fucking around oding whatever challenges. The are slowly and steadily growing a new audience.

[@janecowie3626]

The ending of "they now only make this 1 show and :\" is straight up misinformation, they have a lot of good shows, dimension 20 and game changer are literally some of the best online-centric content out there to my mind.

[@brandonhuber8618]

Um, actually they have some other good content as well.

[@car0_lineee]

Plus all the spin-offs that Sam just announced? I'm so hyped

[@jazmindodds]

Um actually was a show I didn’t expect to like as much as I did! They’ve lots of great content that I feel is looked over.

[@WatanabeNoTsuna.]

Couldn't agree more! Game Changer; Um, Actually; and now Make Some Noise are great!

[@christopheraplin]

@@jazmindodds For sure... I like almost none of the content referenced but its always hilarious.

[@TheMrBonzz]

Glad everyone agreed to call him out on his cherry picked arguments, Dropout was doing fine and most of genuinely would recommend them shows like Game Changer, Make some noise, and Dimensions 20 has been some of the most fun tv shows i watched these two years.

[@charliehalliwell2238]

This video is like saying Netflix failed since they don't sell any DvDs anymore. Like maybe before saying something is a financial failure check their main revenue source?

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

their youtube channel failed.... that was the point of the whole video.... it was covering the youtube channel only bud... cant be that dumb to not realize that right? leading up to dropout

[@chastermief839]

"Nintendo really went down the toilet after they launched the switch. I mean, they're barely releasing any more Wii u games these days! Sad. I miss jake and amir :(((("

[@SpirusOfH]

For real! It really feels like this guy read a couple articles and watched a KZbin video and then decided to regurgitation half-understood points.

[@Kadereuh]

When 100 people lost their job I call that a failure

[@charliehalliwell2238]

@@Kadereuh Good (and based) point, however Netflix recently fired 150 people so technically I'm still correct in the comparison.

[@Pookyloo]

This makes sad, because college humor has some of the most professionally produced content and they are decently funny, I had no idea any of this has happened to them.

[@volactic5240]

I used to

[@CarlMcKenzie]

They may have survived intact if the concept of sponsored videos had gained traction much sooner into the adpocalypse.

[@danceteras2884]

Not dead at all, just look at the comments. Dropout is building popularity and has a dedicated fanbase and they produce high quality shows there. Also, it seems that they ar profitable and trending up. Don't count them out :)

[@nixmilt3040]

College humor is doing fine, they have one if not the best dnd live plays on the internet. The DM is so good he took over critical role for a side story

[@jezzuh9120]

I would actually say that the shift into only uploading No Laugh Newsroom instead of a diverse variety of small sketches is actually indicative of their shift away from being a youtube channel and into being a streaming network. Rather than a bunch of small, unrelated sketches, they're pouring resources into recurring shows like Gamechanger and Dimension 20, which are incredibly good. No Laugh Newsroom has very short episodes, which makes it more suited for the KZbin audience. Honestly Dropout is where CH is now, and measuring its health or success by KZbin metrics doesn't make sense. Their money is coming from subscriptions to the service. It's like saying that Hbomberguy is a failing channel because he's uploading like 3 videos a year now, but he has 11k patreon subscribers. Getting good KZbin analytics is not how he pays the bills.

[@chastermief839]

Hold on... You're telling me that a sketch comedy company realizes they can't fund their entire staff on youtube revenue alone, nearly dies of demonitization completely but barely manages to pull itself together thanks to a few strong series behind a $5/month paywall. And when they're finally back on their feet, they decide "hey, what if instead of going back to youtube, lets keep making the shows that are profitable? and we keep putting them on the platform that actually makes us money"? Shocking. Truly, college humor has become utterly irrelevant.

[@QuibbleTrouble]

@@chastermief839 I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

[@SMAB2007]

@@QuibbleTrouble the username is chaster mief, thats all that really needs to be said 💀

[@nvelsen1975]

There's one important thing you're forgetting though: Nobody knows Dropout. KZbin is how they suck people behind their paywall. So if KZbin fails, the new paying subscribers stop and after that it's just slow, certain death. Unless they were to run advertising or something, but History Hit's (another formerly KZbin based team that moved behind a paywall and ditched KZbin) mediocre performance suggests that sort of business model also doesn't work.

[@aj-sz8mu]

@@chastermief839 irrelevant don't matter. as much as you don't matter. im sure you care that your job makes money and nothing else about your job matters. Same for them. whatever makes money. KZbin doesn't pay, if thats not obvious with the hundreds of channels that has patreon cause of it.

[@TanukiCris]

Gotta love how this age poorly, while Collegehumor is gone in name. From what's been shown, Dropout is flourishing in the new direction it went

[@forlorndream]

❤❤❤❤

[@arthurdurham]

It's fascinating to me bc I started watching Colleghumor when I was young and never even thought about how the business works, especially having a full actual office (esp in NYC originally) and team for high production internet comedy videos. I just thought things work out if you make content people like; then it should just exist. Now as an adult I'm surprised that they were ever financially stable enough to last as long as they did. It's kind of like internet SNL, an ever changing ensemble comedy cast that gets boosts of ratings due to specific actors but then they leave and the show struggles trying to replace them, except CH doesn't have a network that completely owns the IP footing the bill. And comparing it to Smosh's decline I feel like we're seeing the end of the early internet video content era. It was a new an exciting time when these comedy channels that were the progenitors of turning video content on the internet into businesses, with investors trying to get in early. But they were kind of set up like traditional production companies, and we eventually have seen that smaller scale personality driven content is what works. Especially with the pandemic, needing an office structure only hurt them more. Keeping budgets low and having consistent faces keeps the audience around and leads to profitability (Linus is a great example, he grew slowly and has been there the whole time, which I feel like has helped his sustainability). Sad to see a staple of internet content falling under, but personally except for ones with Brennan I don't really find most of their output entertaining anymore.

[@laneythelame]

After sara left it definitely changed...she writes for SNL now i think

[@mistybaylock]

Their office was in the sickest building in NYC too! I remember as a kid always passing by it thinking how sick it must be to work there.

[@Rafalski7]

The decline of Smosh and College Humour all stems to them trying to centralize their content on their website. If they kept just doing shit on youtube or vine or tiktok and not have a whole website that they have to operate and fund. (why pay for servers when youtuvbe already does it for you) Why have a NY office with tht cost of rent and shit? Move them to a diff state. ounds like they just had terrible business sense.

[@exploderwrestlingpodcast2721]

@K A E L Y N 💋 This looks TOTALLY legit, guys. Give her all the social security numbers NOW!

[@exploderwrestlingpodcast2721]

@@laneythelame She did, even helped get Streeter a job there, but she and her writing partner left a couple years ago to work on their own pilots.

[@novahazx5723]

I used to love CollegeHumor. Great group. Its a shame they stopped doing well.

[@funky_monke991]

Same they have so much talent but they just stopped producing content

[@Meow_Meow_Hurts_Real_Bad]

@@funky_monke991 They are still active, but they seem to aim for something else at this moment. But their content frequency isnt't as prominent as how they did their things before, and well, their financial issues caused most of this fall of their channel, and the audience, they simply grew alongside the channel, while I think CH is still good, I am aware that they aren't as great as what they used to anymore, which is sad, but that is reality.

[@funky_monke991]

@@Meow_Meow_Hurts_Real_Bad yeah I know they still post but I just feel bad about the demise because you can tell they truly care because they keep the Chanel alive and I think they deserved better

[@DeathnoteBB]

??? They’re fine. They’re doing Dropout, and have a Discord you can talk to Sam himself on. Like why do people think they’re dead??

[@Belowone]

the OG group was the best era too bad they left one by one

[@coasterthekid8867]

For anybody that doesn’t know college humor has had financial problems for a few years. A lot of this is because they made content that wasn’t considered advertiser friendly and only made money off channel members, Patreon, and sponsors. They had investors and a parent company but after a while it reached a point where they were basically making the same amount of money that they were spending to create the content which isn’t good for a business. However they do still make videos on KZbin but they’re a bit different than what they used to do. They do some game shows now and a couple skits here and there

[@jubilee7019]

they have a subscription platform with a large fan base.

[@Correa24bori]

Dropout TV is the successor for CH.

[@PropheticShadeZ]

@@Correa24bori and its fantastic

[@PurgPurg]

Lol guess I don’t need to watch the video now since you restated it

[@CleffedWings]

You should do a video about their SUCCESS story. They're ALL I see online now and everyone I know is trying to get me to watch Dimension 20!

[@ar12456ar]

He won’t, he only does videos about the decline of a channel, he couldn’t give two shits

[@YourPalJamieEllis]

Yeah it's unfortunate that people will just see the video title and maybe watch a few minutes of this and not realize Dropout is fucking crushing it by basically any metric.

[@jaigermeille3482]

I’m sorry you have such terrible associates 😔

[@hero3281]

This feels like a school project where you were trying to make a point and decided to ignore half of the evidence, which suggested that your point was wrong and called it a day.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

The title makes no sense lol.

[@grantkeller4634]

College tumor subscriber detected

[@Ocean_Man]

on god

[@appropriate-channelname3049]

he is right though. College humor is dead. Dropout is pretty diffrent content wise than what College humor was about.

[@theshadowofmango9209]

@@appropriate-channelname3049its misleading. It makes it seem like the company “collegehumor” failed, when they didnt. They just changed course

[@alijoc]

It’s a shame that collegehumour had to deal with this, but im happy to let you all know that yes even though there’s a paywall, the content that is on Dropout is soooo good (esp Dimension 20) and im very happy to keep subscribing :)

[@SirBlackReeds]

Shill, that sounds like a cope. After all, their Dropout content doesn't harken back to when they had edge, bit. Gotta keep that content clean for the sponsors and advertisers.

[@robosexxxual]

@@SirBlackReeds you must be fun at parties

[@dropout]

hey everyone listen to Alisha!!

[@joshgroban5291]

@@SirBlackReeds that sounds like bullshit considering the whole point of dropout is keeping that edge without getting demonitized. If it was as clean as you say they would still be on YT

[@spocite]

@@dropout i agree, listen to alisha

[@FanboyFlicks]

Another well edited and researched video, good stuff!

[@alexdavis665]

Good video but not enough research, there's a lot that's missing in terms of modern CollegeHumor, specifically how content is now being created for Dropout and not KZbin. He brought it up very briefly but that's where all of their resources are going. No mention of Dimension 20 is leaving out a particularly large chunk of modern CH.

[@roguemarvel]

@@alexdavis665 I was thinking the same thing. If you actually pay for the plus version of the channel there's new content constantly via new episodes of their other shows, which Also have their own channels. College humor runs dimension 20, um actually, and game changers which are all incredible. And try not to laugh is a lot of fun. And almost all of that content is free eventually. And it's all making revenue and getting views for college humor. The main channel may not seem active, but the company is doing very well

[@wonderfulworldofmarkets9033]

It was not well researched. He got many things wrong from who Collegehumor was owned by, how collegehumor stopped making profit after FB/KZbin dominance, what cast members jobs were, etc. By far the biggest thing he got wrong that's almost embarrassing: The reason Collegehumor maintained quality content for 6 months after the layoffs because they had prerecorded that much content. After that all the expensive content by talented people were gone, so all the content after that and up until till today were just talk shows and game shows that are cheap to produce. Collegehumor failing showed that channels (like this one) where one person talking about drama who puts little effort and talks to a screen with stock footage is the only thing that runs. Look at the rise of all the podcasts by every youtuber. Any movie or tv quality content will die because KZbin does not pay enough and only rewards constantly uploaded cheap, low quality, clickbait content.

[@archieblue2801]

Hey Mark I'm a massive fan love your content!

[@grifffourn8200]

@@alexdavis665 also didn't mention how Facebook screwed over everyone (like Cracked, for example). They weren't accurately showing view count and the money didn't come in. CH changed their content to appeal to Facebook, and it ruined them.

[@dukesilver1189]

RIP CollegeHumor. Long live Dropout! Worth every penny.

[@zukawastaken]

I don't know how "sucessful" dropout is but I must say some of their shows like Dimension 20 and Game chager are really good and enjoyable.

[@DavidJamesHenry]

I was applying to work for CH Media before the shutdown, I was really sad about losing the opportunity, but now that I've seen their newer content, I'm even more motivated to join their smaller team

[@LeatherCladVegan]

Please hire David. He is so diligent and devoted to the cause that he represents CH even in his downtime, as you will see from his earnest comment above.

[@PrairieDogFan]

@@LeatherCladVegan well thats David’s reference sorted

[@superrswalkthrougn]

Honestly I only subbed to their dropout because I love Brennan and his work on dimension 20. But then I came across Total Forgivenes, where two of the most in debt cast members do a show to pay off their student debt (More like put a small dent in it) and that is easily one of the best 9 episodes of something I've seen in my life. Hilarious and tragic. I'm glad they aren't doing a S2.

[@Westiedog123]

Ally and Grant and Adam (the producer from Total Forgiveness) are collaborating on an indie film together, it was a really successful campaign on Kickstarter! It seems like it will have similar themes

[@Rick-oi3xm]

Just found total forgiveness a couple weeks back and it's easily one of my favorites on the channel

[@icantdraw3781]

Brennan is a total chad, and seeing how much chemistry he has with the others even without a script is really heartwarming.

[@BatDad1984]

Its great to see Sam pull the company up from the ashes and building it back up slowly. I hope they bring back some of its older scripted style content.

[@willhamilton297]

They just hired me a while back for a freelance job in production design. It’s a lot of that kind of work, more controlled budgets, and clearly a more small but very very driven core team. I actually the opportunity to talk so Sam for a very quick second and he seemed very excited about how things were going. This video is being overly negative, and not all changes are bad. Edit: almost 95% of their content is Dropout now, and I think that’s great. It’s reasonably priced, very funny, and they know exactly what it is, unlike a bunch of other streaming services like paramount plus. It’s a pretty good system, and I don’t think this video represents that.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@Dvdshake]

How did you land that gig if you don’t mind me asking?

[@encycl07pedia-]

Why pay for stuff when there's free content that's just as good if not better? I'm old enough to remember College Humor and Break before KZbin. CH was good for 5-10 minutes of laughs a week, maybe. And it was free. I seriously doubt they've gotten much better than that. I think asking college kids (in reality or in spirit), famously some of the most broke people in the United States, to pay just for some laughs isn't a great business strategy.

[@thatblueseed]

@@encycl07pedia- Sorry mate, but im gomma have to disagree. The content in the DropOut streaming service is absolute 🔥🔥. They have Musicals that are entirely improvised, extremely well-produced DnD content, and hilarious game shows. My 5 dollars a month is extremely worth it

[@encycl07pedia-]

@@thatblueseed Musicals are a reason to unsubscribe.

[@jennyneon]

CollegeHumor became irrelevant.. *because of being in debt, being a college student is hard..*

[@hyperion3145]

Not as hard as being a spam bot on a KZbin comment though

[@hadesandmars]

Hard to commend this as 'well researched' when he doesn't bother getting a 3 day free trial to check out the mountains of content CH are putting out on Dropout, plus all their sister channels. Got the blinders on here! Also no follow through on where CH staff went/any curiosity beyond numbers.

[@toiletgaming223]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@youtubeaccount7089]

A 3 day trial? I’m sorry but that’s pathetic. They should at least do 7 days or a month

[@cendrieeR]

@@youtubeaccount7089 I thought you were joking for a moment but your handle checks out. Must be tough saving for a cheap dropout subscription when the ruble is going to shit.

[@thepurpleman119]

He’s talking specifically about “CollegeHumor” and not any thing else, like in his buzz feed video he specifically talked about the main channel. Talking about they’re websites, channels, shows, ect. Would have been way too long and probably less interesting

[@thepurpleman119]

@@cendrieeR dw it’s probably a troll (hopefully)

[@lucaswickmansound]

Recently subscribed to Droupout, literally $5 a month for some of the funniest original series I’ve seen D20 and Game Changer are almost too good, I feel like I’m not paying enough for this kind of quality

[@starlightrains]

why pay for funi when i can just look up “funny memes” on youtube

[@jaigermeille3482]

You must not know very many original series then 😂

[@markcharron]

It's just crazy to me that media that has literally millions of people watching it monthly can't survive "cuz KZbin"... but mainstream TV where their viewership may be 1000 TV sets tuned in at any given time, is able to stay affloat. Just goes to show how backwards-thinking the whole advertising world is.

[@billmilligan7272]

We've accidentally created a new class structure in society. If you're Will Smith or Stephen Colbert or someone else of the "celebrity class" you have a lot more information privilege than if you're J Random KZbinr. And that kind of disconnect breeds all kinds of bad stuff. It's not a good sign for civilization at large when your pop culture celebrities hold their audience in such contempt, and vice versa.

[@royaltyblessed2454]

Disagree on the slight given that its backwards thinking. Perhaps that television is still so relevant that it is still more financially stable than KZbin based on a point you made. Plenty of people and places (restaurants for example) still use cable and thus advertisements will flow daily since they have since the introduction of televisionmany decades ago. Whereas KZbin consumption is still relatively new in comparison especially with advertisements (less than 10 years). However, in time, I'm sure this will change as older generations and thus older ways phase out.

[@markcharron]

@@royaltyblessed2454 I never watch TV and yet I watch KZbin and streaming almost 100%... because what's on TV? "Local cat caught in tree" local news fluff? Jerry Springer "I'm sleeping with my sister" stuff? 10 channels that aren't even in the language you speak? Infomercials? ... Biased mainstream news? ...Trust me, millennials are throwing away their cable packages. Daytime court shows ain't worth 90 bucks a month.

[@gilded_lady]

The real reason: its about spending power. Content that attracts more affluent established (and realistically older) adults gets more $$ than content that is geared at 20-somethings and cpm reflects this. Combine with content that isn't advertiser friendly and this outcome isn't a shock.

[@daisybelle2336]

That's not true, 68% of Americans are still cable based and news channels bring in millions of viewers. It's more like hundreds of thousands/millions vs just thousands. The football games lately averaged 5-10 milion. With the Dallas game bringing in 20million viewers. People still watch things like The Amazing Race, (The show, "Let's make a deal" which was a total sleeper just scored 4.3 million viewers) CBS's Ghost 6million and Fox averages 3.29 million. Cbs/NBC/ABC are the dominant channels, ranging from 5-3 million. In 2019, cable industry subscriptions in the US were worth $92.44 billion. In the second quarter of 2020, Fox News made over $203 million in advertising revenue. So with CBS/NBC/ABC/ESPN pulling millions in viewership. Ranging from averaging 5million down to 1 million. Nickelodeon being in the 1 million range, cable isn't out of the game in advertising. Cable obviously isn't *as huge* as it was, due to streaming, however those numbers are still MASSIVE and to advertisers, worth it. Especially seeing as how you can buy an ad that will be aired to millions vs skipped- Lastly, KZbin views are NOT unique. A play = a view vs more concrete data within cable network views. So often times you can account for multiple views per person with KZbin/streaming.

[@nujevad28]

I'm glad that the Drawfee crew was able to get back on their feet after the downsizing.

[@KidChardonnay]

Even though they fell off you got to respect that they were on the internet creating for over 20 years. Not many people can do that

[@exotictacos5460]

That’s what these videos are about just because they fell off doesn’t mean they weren’t awesome you can only be relevant for so long

[@KQKQ23]

My girlfriend does on set work for dropout Aka college humor. They do very very well for themselves, the business model just had to change in order to keep up with the times.

[@Psyched.Substance]

My biggest complaint with most of the videos you make is it's often too early to count someone out. Especially on youtube. I cannot stress the importance of BREAKS enough. Just because a channel seems down at the moment doesn't mean it can't pick back up. Personally I've fluctuated from 1.5 million views per month to 6 million views per month. If you look at a graph during my 1.5 million view months or what lead up to it and only focus on that you wouldn't realize that perhaps the next month I'd release a really good video bringing views back up. This is the KZbin game. It's often one good video/good video series away from picking back up again for many of these channels.

[@rhettorical]

It's almost like trying to make an exposé every week means none of them are going to be fully-researched. This isn't Down the Rabbit Hole, you can't expect quality here.

[@kolotoure3995]

I agree 100%. But in this case it seems it’s a bit too far gone in my opinion. Get what you’re saying overall though. Big fan by the way keep it up.

[@rushikou9979]

Well, this is the channel that talk about failures . . . if there are none, you make one else the channel go bye bye, keeping the channel alive is more important than waiting for something to be a fact

[@colonelticklebottom]

@@rushikou9979 Not necessarily true. Watched a couple with positive remarks. There are more bad than good though.

[@farlie3204]

break throughs that u had 0 youtubers to back up and urself being a dying meditation channel

[@4478nick]

The originals cast members of College Humor were legit huge talents. I highly recommend their Hardly Working sketches. A lot of them were comedy gold. Jake and Amir was fantastic too. Those videos are still on KZbin, no reason not to watch them!

[@SoccYT]

There are some newer talents as well that got extremely high praise like Brandon.

[@alexdavis665]

Also a lot of CH talent has gone on to far larger stuff, such as Siobhan Thompson now being a head writer on Rick and Morty, or Lou Wilson going to write for Jimmy Kimmel

[@grelkie]

@@SoccYT he’s the only one holding the channel together comically for most

[@arthurdurham]

I never liked Jake and Amir for some reason, felt like it was the exact same joke over and over. But I agree, so much of the original cast made gold. And even the generation after the original was great too

[@baileyBLIGHT]

I'm just glad Drawfee was able to go independent, they were the only CH thing I enjoyed. Good video also, nice and informative without overstaying its welcome.

[@kfiraltberger552]

Make some noise is everything Sam Reich needs. It's a fun gameshow that never grows old and makes the dropout subscription worth it.

[@winebird8952]

I pay for dropout just for Dimension20. Best dnd show on the internet IMO. Nonstop laughs, improv, and creativity. And Brennan really knows how to keep the battles intense and barely winnable.

[@chillinsquirtle]

The last fight in the newest season was awesome

[@katarixy]

The sheer amount of talent behind Brennan Lee Muligan is astronomical

[@sendersnivy6698]

BLM

[@eileensnow6153]

I hope they pay him well, he is a content generator

[@themanyouwanttobe]

Hot take: College kids are just more serious and depressing now than they were in 2008-2014.

[@ltb1345]

The ones who aren't serious and depressing are those privileged with high IQs. So, the ones who can actually make it in college.

[@LagrangePoint0]

Correction: they TAKE themselves too seriously and self diagnose themselves with all sorts of mental illnesses.

[@yukiandkanamekuran]

opposite actually. We're just not into offensive humor, and prefer absurdist humor and stupid memes. We're the kids who grew up with vine after all.

[@ismaeljimenez6562]

@@ltb1345 it sounds like you take college waaay too serious bro

[@crazydragy4233]

Hot take: cultures change.

[@jimbalrah9028]

This video didn't age well CH just became Dropout

[@DarMar106]

And Dropout is awesome. Game Changers, Um Actually. Love all that so they’ve definitely evolved

[@KKRDM]

Title, how college humor became irrelevant. End of video, they are doing quite well despite challenges and setbacks along the way. And they still have loyal fans. So.... they aren't irrelevant and kind of prove that Sam Reich is doing great work. Neat.

[@danderson8431]

I watch “College Humor” when I was in college. When I graduated I was done. Idk if it was a conscious decision, or if I just moved on naturally.

[@300IQPrower]

gotta love when these video essays just ignore everything that doesnt match their agenda going in.

[@stepanpytlik4021]

And that is?

[@GHOST-in-the-MACHINE]

@@stepanpytlik4021 The popularity of Dropout, the main way "CollegeHumour" makes money nowadays? Sam more or less migrated off KZbin, it's only used for shorts to promote their various shows now. The fact that Dropout's immense succes isn't mentioned anywhere in this video and the focus is solely on the KZbin channel they barely even use anymore is slightly dishonest.

[@KC-gb4vr]

@@GHOST-in-the-MACHINE think its because their mainly refering to the KZbin Channel and not the company as a whole

[@melonmanwill]

@@KC-gb4vrbut the video is called “How CollegeHumor became irrelevant” which ya gotta admit is a little clickbaitty

[@LetMeEatDem]

@@melonmanwillare you new to the internet?

[@Rick1sFunny]

If you have ever even chuckled at a college humor video getting dropout will be 100% worth it. I finally broke down an bought it the other day and i havent gotten any work done ive been watching it so much

[@PrimmsHoodCinema]

- Says "Making internet videos pays dick" - Hires 100 employees

[@samhyde6395]

Yo Primm! Cool to see you here.

[@jamalhughes7553]

My nigga primm out hea

[@jamalhughes7553]

Sad college not so hood movie

[@reallyriley123]

Well making good FUNNY videos does kinda pay dick at least with the way youtube is so prude now.

[@Seffyzero]

Well, they weren't relying on youtube ad money when they did that. They had proper funding through a partner.

[@AwfulWaffle8474]

I remember Jake was at my college for one semester. He seemed like a pretty cool guy but then he transferred to a college in NYC. I was like "whatever happened to that guy" and then i saw him on CH and that is the weakest flex of meeting a celebrity.

[@ForceflowX]

Really weird timing to release this now, when College Humor/Dropout is actually operating in the black and preparing to launch multiple new shows. If that's what irrelevance looks like, I'll take it.

[@CalmClamFam]

I was very surprised at the range of shows Dropout had when I got the free trial. I never expected Dimension20 to be so engaging. Game Changer and Dimension 20 are my favorites. Dirty laundry and Play it by Ear are fun too

[@Boostocalypse]

I would say their programming expansion and focus on shorts and showing just enough to get you hooked in the last year has had a major impact on their channel. I haven't looked at any numbers but just based on the changes I've personally seen

[@marglizcarolmorris]

I feel like the rise of their Dimension 20 concept is really beneficial to the business. The episodes are dirt cheap to make and provide hilarious content.

[@TheSantifive]

Whoever is running CH nowadays owes their second wind to Brennan. That dude is a comedy goldmine, even when talking outside a script. Beyond the fact they have a limited resource pool, he's in EVERY succesfull show they have nowadays: Dimension20, Gamechanger, Don't Laugh News, and even their brilliant CEO PSA skits.

[@Phoenix-pm2qr]

He's the only good thing they have left.

[@iridescent28]

I like Zac and Josh too hahhah

[@grey8288]

Not just that, a LOT of people sub to Dropout because they saw episode one of [insert campaign here] on D20 and got hooked. But having a DM other than Brennan has been pretty new, for so long it was just Brennan.

[@dominictemple]

@@grey8288 I did like Jasmine’s Coffin Run game though.

[@Nyxthebat04]

Idk if Katie is still around, but she's soo underrated. She's the funniest one imo.

[@nightangelx1513]

I got dropout for the new year after watching game changer and dimension 20 shorts. No regrets, best subscription service I’ve ever had by a landslide. Variety is great, Shows are amazing, and all the staff really seem like they care about each other. 10/10 recommend

[@dropout]

thank you Cody Walsh

[@Happylachia]

Their game show is an absolute hilarious clip farm. Such great content still. CH FOREVER

[@TitanInvictusTube]

I still love the CH staff and their continued content. I been on Dropout consistently. Plus, Drawfee was born of CH so funky yes. All that aside, still a great timeline breakdown of the decline.

[@qsmith2514]

Jake and Amir had me in a chokehold ten years ago. Love Pat, Streeter, Sarah, Sam, Murph, Emily Dan, and Jeff as well. You could tell they all enjoyed being together and being funny felt second nature to them. I stuck around for the new generation. I just got busy and my sensibilities changed. I truly hope they’re all doing well. One of the last bastions of classic KZbin.

[@Mugsi]

Yeah, the old gang was great. I still go through my playlist of Jake & Amir and Hardly Working favourites every now and then

[@zumabbar]

@@Mugsi oh, sheesh, y'all!

[@Mugsi]

@@zumabbar Twas a dream!

[@sonnington1035]

@@Mugsi I'd bet a big drop off in viewer count could be attribute to Sam giving or maybe selling the rights of Jake and Amir back to Jake and Amir and those videos migrating off of the channel.

[@Phoenix-pm2qr]

Those were the golden years. Everyone on that staff was pure gold.

[@higaiwokeru]

its such a shame what happened to College Humor, I love their “CEO of” series

[@crazydragy4233]

I can't help but love anything with Brennan in it. He's just phenomenal!

[@thecalham]

Clock suckers was my fav so underrated

[@dashiellrucka119]

There's actually a lot more of that series on dropout, their subscription service!

[@tandraarisandi6680]

At their peak. College humour is a better SNL that we never get

[@ed_cmntonly]

and it is STILL peak today

[@cubedg6611]

I want to clarify something: were they not pulling a profit the entire time? Or were they working their way BACK into profitability after the ad-pocalypse? I feel like IAC wasn’t just waiting around 14 years. Also most of their money is coming through dropout now, with much more content being released there, so I’m wondering if now that their costs are way down, they’re now turning a profit again while using KZbin vids as advertising. I also highly suggest dropout if you like D&D actual plays, Dimension 20 has some of the best comedic storytelling and production value in the business.

[@MichaelPuterbaugh]

IAC never reported financials for CollegeHumor specifically, but I believe they operated Vimeo at a loss almost every quarter from acquiring the company to its IPO last year -- at a market cap of over $8 billion. Takes money to makes money.

[@zumabbar]

oh wow, i never thought their YT channel now is one big ads for Dropout.

[@Nick9n]

Slight correction: They ARE uploading more than just breaking news, it's just locked behind a youtube paywall now. They're uploading most of their dropout content to youtube, you just have to pay to access it, and youtube doesn't put videos you have to pay for in the uploads section for some stupid reason.

[@ExtraD0G]

I find it strange that you didn't dive more into their dropout content. Where they still have widely successful shows like Dimension 20, Um actually, and Game Changer, along with any new sketches.

[@cdigames]

This whole channel seems like clickbait surface skims of 'what happened to' things. KZbin keeps pushing me videos from it and yet, they never are.. good?

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

@@cdigames or they were only covering the main channel...... like use the brain fella...

[@laughingatyou711]

@@ninvusoogoar6098 that's like saying Netflix is failing because they don't sell DVDs, ignoring a major part of their business model and hyperfocusing on their failure in another doesn't mean the whole business has failed, only that part has

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

@@laughingatyou711 no they failed at selling DVDs and rebranded... legit what i said. they FAILED at one thing and switch to another... this is not a hard concept. CH youtube channel FAILED and thats okay to say, and as a fan you wont betray them by saying facts. wouldnt know if drop out is a success for i stopped following them long after they went hard into the alt left side of politics with their content. but it doesnt mean that they did not fail on youtube, for they did they were no longer bringing in good enough profits and made major mistakes on the platform they could not adapt to and failed at youtube.... THEN started their own thing and survived. this is not hard to grasp.

[@laughingatyou711]

@@ninvusoogoar6098 if the video was named why college humors KZbin channel became irrelevant the video would be far more accurate, I'm just saying to imply they are floundering isn't exactly true, I haven't seen any of their stuff to see how good it is but after looking at their website analytics they ain't doing half bad

[@Xantexhunter]

Adding to the dropout train. Its really good, their skits are great and there is a lot of content to choose from. Honestly, with how things in youtube are trending, I wouldn't be surprised if Dropout expanded to other creators like youtube did back in the early days. We need a streaming site that puts creators first and profit second. This video is good, but it is slightly misleading, Collegehumor is thriving and Sam Reich, as of the writing of this comment, is beloved and well respected.

[@NaughtMax]

So I feel like this video missed out on a lot of readily known facts about this entire situation, like how most of not all of the videos uploaded after loss of funding weren’t made after that time, mostly just videos in the backlog or dropout exclusives that just needed to go through some post production, didn’t really talk about college humors offshoots like drawfee or dimension 20, even if the main channel fell off I think it’s worth seeing what the people who worked at/for college humor are still doing on KZbin

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

the video was only covering the main channel... its kinda shocking how many dumb people somehow missed this....

[@chastermief839]

​@@ninvusoogoar6098 You can't talk about College Humor in 2022 without talking about Dimension20 lol. D&D shows are what saved the company, and now it makes up a majority of their content. the fact that dimension20 or Brennan Lee Mulligan doesn't even get mentioned at all in this script just shows a complete lack of understanding of what college humor is or has been since like, 2019. It's an extremely out of touch perspective. This video also doesn't "just cover their main channel", it covers the entire history of the company including their origins as a standalone website in the late 90s/early 2000s. It's a video about college humor as a company, not just their youtube channel. but the video conveniently ignores the fact that they're doing just fine and are moving away from YT now because it makes for a more sensational video (and clickbait title) to pretend that the only way to make money or release content on the internet is through youtube lmao.

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

@@chastermief839 you actually can. because if you pay attention they FAILED on youtube and this channel was covering WHY.... no one except the echo chamber that dropout has become cares about them anymore. i stopped watching them when they went hard into the alt left side of politics, like i have stopped watching other comedy groups who went hard towards alt right. bad political content aside, CH used to be funny and relevant now they are only relevant to the echo chamber they have created for themselves which saved them short term, but stagnated them long term. i checked out their latest content after seeing this video once i was reminded they existed... nothing new has changed content-wise, still very alt left which sucks for us non crazy liberals because its just too far left for us to enjoy. also 2019? they stopped being relevant several years before that. the video also went into several details that "click bait" videos would not even bother to mention. if your a huge fan of their current work i can see why you would be biased against this video. but to most of the world who vaguely remembers when CH was actually funny its a basic sum up of the events that lead up to them leaving youtube when they stopped being profitable on the platform. thats all it has to be.

[@horacehorace6793]

@@ninvusoogoar6098do you have any examples of their political videos? cause I mostly just remember them shitting on presidential candidates indiscriminately

[@ninvusoogoar6098]

@@horacehorace6793 only anti trump videos. No other candidates. The new cast just did loads of political hot topic videos the typical stuff these channels eventually do to chase views sadly. If your asking for direct examples it's been years since I stopped watching their content and never went to drop out when that dropped I'm sure if you browse their catalog of material centered around the new cast (trap, Brennan, Katie, grant, ect... ect) you will find your answers.

[@rickhubanks6722]

If nothing really changed after 90% of the staff was cut, couldn't you say that they were wasting the parent company's money on nonessential employees?

[@Zombienekers]

no, i'ts just a backlog of recorded sketches. every well- run channel of this size would have about 4-6 months of content ready to send at any given moment

[@rickhubanks6722]

That makes sense, especially with the timeline.

[@GabeHype]

I loved the hell out of CollegeHumor back in my teenage years, RIP

[@smithyathome]

A lot of people have mentioned here and I agree I think they just shifted gears. Shows like Um, Actually and other spin offs with the CH cast are still pretty enjoyable just a lot less edgy, a lot more approachable for a more family-friendly audience. Which is nice as a now father to be able to watch a cast I like, with my son around.

[@desmonddesjarlais2697]

This misrepresented everything and failed to mention the rather essential role Facebook played, instead asserting it was the product of ineptitude when it was from criminal levels of corporate deception.

[@2girls1up]

I think to an extent, they got really lucky with cast members early on. Most of their alumni is doing bigger and better things now - they got a lot of value out of those people’s talents and probably didn’t have to pay them much. Kind of a “right time at the right place” sort of thing

[@umbreonguy2274]

The irony of me having never heard of CollegeHumor until a couple weeks ago, when a load of their shorts popped up in my recommended and I found them hilarious. No idea they were struggling

[@andresacosta5318]

Dropout is thriving. The amount of shows and the level of quality of said shows is great. Even if their youtube is hurting they are thriving

[@guwopman3503]

Jake and Amir will always be the best series CH ever produced

[@thecalham]

But bruh you ever watch clock suckers

[@guwopman3503]

@@thecalham holy shit ancient memory rediscovered. I forgot all about that lol

[@SineN0mine3]

Everything swaim did will always be my favourite but Jake and Amir are a close second.

[@SoniasWay]

This is the bad part of being in the entertainment business. Sooner or later the people lose interest

[@DeathnoteBB]

Dropout has plenty of subscribers, so yeah not sure why people think anyone lost interest

[@stevedaguy9639]

Their dropout stuff is actually really wonderful. They have fun twist on game shows and serialized tabletop role play content.

[@T1J]

dropout is super good. dimension 20 is singhandedly responsible for getting me obsessed with D&D, and game changer/make some noise are this generation's whose line is it anyway

[@Fi_Sci_]

I remember watching the Badman videos they made back in the day with Pete Holmes, even something more obscure was a Star Wars inspired mini series they made called Troopers. Good stuff, a real shame how things turned out.

[@skilletno1]

I forgot trooper’s existed until you mentioned it

[@rquinain]

CollegeHumor's fall is indeed painful. I grew up with this channel and I've had some of my best laughs from these videos. Despite being owned by a huge corporation at one point, the channel never lost its heart. It's far from likely, but God I hope that somehow things turn around again.

[@TGOPoma]

I remember greatly enjoying College Humor's content back in the days of 2008-2010. Hard to believe it's been a decade since I was last subscribed to that channel...

[@MothsInALampshade]

I'm pretty new to Dropout. Only been watching for about a year. And I'm no businessman but I don't think it's all that bad of an idea to really start paring down to multiple shows whose formats have been tinkered to peak likability and fun comedy and guests. Um, Actually is a perfect premise for a show. Game Changer allows them to be able to do almost anything so it lets them always be doing something new. Dimension 20 is a staple and will always be as long as the service is around. And I feel like No Laugh News can be another hit series like that as long as it stays fresh. But I think my main point to really keep Dropout successful is put Lou Wilson in as many episodes as possible.

[@jackmcnutt6435]

Dropout honestly has some of the best content out there and I just have to let that be known.

[@1928dman]

Its crazy. People are like, oh collegehumor is irrelevant. Rip. Their content is good quality.

[@Antifrost]

I rediscovered CollegeHumor sometime during the pandemic and had a whole lot of old and new content to get through. I eventually loved the Breaking News segment enough to buy a channel membership to see all of the episodes that were behind that paywall, and I haven't regretted that decision yet. It's also opened me up to the whole host of other shows they do, and I truly hope they can find a balance of what to release for free and what to keep for Dropout/channel members. I don't have a real stake in the matter, but I do hope that CollegeHumor can keep doing what they're doing.

[@dillion308]

drawfee and dimension 20 are still some of my favorite internet things, and a ton of the yt videos are super nostalgic. unfortunate the channel itself went but they had a good run!

[@LidellFrasier]

The company isn't dead. They just greenlit three new gameshows following the massive success of the last season of Game Changer, plus all of the Dimension 20 content from this past year. This video completely ignores anything other than the main KZbin channel, which is not an accurate representation of the state of CH Media. In short, Dropout is thriving.

[@dillion308]

@@LidellFrasier yeah absolutely! i love dropout. but the original channel specifically is not as profitable/popular as it once was. and it will likely never be as popular. so in internet terms it is "dead"

[@jaina8648]

Years later, Dropout TV is a financial success and growing annually.