How Combat Evolved was downgraded on MCC | How the original is being lost to time (THEY FIXED IT)

[@zelefant1482]

They're finally fixing this, it makes me so happy

[@Jdog47892]

yeeee

[@kamaboko117]

source?

[@PsychoKrueger]

The day that patch drops will be glorious !

[@CentralBauer]

The update has already been released or is it necessary to wait? Just today I started halo ce in the MCC after many years and seeing this I prefer to wait for the game to look like I remember it.

[@NoStringsAttachedPrd]

@@CentralBauer Not yet, it's only just been announced in that link that they're doing some stuff. Sounds like it'll be in the next update with Season 7

[@BadVideoWatcher1]

Bungie: "What if you miss?" Gearbox: "I won't." Gearbox: *Misses*

[@theendofit]

Can you really call a massive success a miss? Lol

[@LordVader1094]

@@theendofit The PC version wasn't a massive success, did you even watch the video?

[@theendofit]

@@LordVader1094 it's still heavly being played today and sold very well. It was also very stable (it does not crash easily) for a port. So much so that's the main reason it was used for the anaversary version. Yes it looks worse but it was still a success by all actuall measurable standards.

[@LordVader1094]

@@theendofit Being played often because it's the only version available does not mean it was a success on a technical level. It literally explains in the video that the only reason it's used in the anniversary version is because it has working online multiplayer. So no, it's not a success by all actual measurable standards. It succeeded in one thing and one thing only: workable multiplayer. In all other ways, it fails.

[@theendofit]

@@LordVader1094 ok whell im pretty sure every game company ever would be happy to have fails like halo ce as it still sold amazingly and is still being played despite there being 2 billion other games that pepole could be playing yet still has enough fans that think its worth playing. if it was truly as bad as you are making it out to be most pepole would have left it. its still great its just not as great as it could have been. all things considered this are all minor issues in the long run. and no the reason they used the ce verison over the orginal was not because of the multiplayer. the main reason why is becuase the main work of porting it onto other hardware was already done they had made it so it could more easily be run on anything. the xbox orginal verison could only run on an xbox. why start from scratch and have to do a massive amount of work just to try to re due whats already done. you might as well remake the game if thats your mentality. second while the orginal did not have online it had system link wich is reltivly easy to turn into an online mode all the ground work for making halo online was in there at launch as they planed it to be online but had to cut it late as xbox live was no where near ready. so it would not be a factor in decideding witch version to build off of.

[@shivalah]

"Cortana doesn't change Colour when she is angry." I knew something was very wrong with this scene! I couldn't point my finger on it.

[@matthewcarter549]

so glad someone else noticed

[@user-tm3fz7qx3s]

Same

[@jake3523]

@@Hitly96 thanks, I knew something was wrong with his comment, but I couldn't elephant my finger on it.

[@warreng675]

Yeah put

[@skullunatorofficial2547]

In my case, the mission where you save keys and you see the shield on the hanger bay doors, I noticed something wasn't right about that either.

[@raiderbeast8357]

Weird how Gearbox messing up just one line of code can cause so many issu- *Flashbacks to Aliens Colonial Marines* Oh god no

[@huytungnguyen119]

Raiderbeast 83 That time when Gearbox messed up 1 code and made the AI freakin dumb, modders even fixed that code and made the game a little bit better.

[@kabob0077]

Raiderbeast 83 Some guy at Gearbox probably screamed "OH GOD IT'S HAPPENED AGAIN!" after learning THAT fuck up.

[@Schytheron]

Gearbox literally doesn't know how to code anything besides Borderlands. VERSATILITY 0

[@BullworthGraduate]

@@Schytheron - They knew how to code _Brothers In Arms_ back when they made those games.

[@aces5thalternateaccount464]

I loved Aliens: Colonial Marines.

[@InterDimensionalLizard]

Looks like this didn't get fixed for the PC version of MCC. Edit: Or perhaps it did!

[@shredgordon3240]

Inter-dimensional Lizard I think the shields were fixed

[@javierititin]

@@shredgordon3240 They're not :(

[@dxtrum]

And it got much much worse

[@sean8102]

@Barricade Bonecrusher Amen. The dynamic soundtrack mixing engine is fucked. It's super noticeable, and I really hope it gets fixed. Halo's music is so iconic and the looping/mixing is awful on PC.

[@TheMagicQsGaming]

@Barricade Bonecrusher Or the audio of some guns holding/looping.

[@dhoffnun]

They also screwed up the music! The theme is supposed to play during the action sequences of the opening level... not anymore.

[@Ebalosus]

The music overall for the remasters has generally sucked IMO. I at least appreciate that in CE Anniversary I can choose the pretty graphics *and* the old music, unlike Halo 2 in the MCC.

[@cleanserofnoobs4162]

The guitar rifts at the end of Truth and Reconciliation Original soundtrack is not the same as the guitar rifts at the end of the remaster original soundtrack Honest Negotiations. Which is too bad, I would've liked to have heard it in it's remastered form.

[@r4z0r84]

Yeah you're right Cortana is talking whilst you get the epic music but you only get her talking with generic music

[@cleanserofnoobs4162]

@Ken narville Apparently so, especially when it comes to wanting a legit discussion without having shitheads like you pop out of the Grinch's asshole.

[@pacoelchato1877]

@Ken narville justifying lazy idiots out to shamelessly steal from you won't get you anywhere.

[@Lazy_Desu]

Well I learned something new today. When I played again, I just assumed it was due to age. Not poor technical foundation

[@fanamatakecick97]

Aaron Weir I knew this game was more beautiful than it seems in classic graphics, but this... this abomination by comparison makes me sad

[@chocchip4172]

@@fanamatakecick97 I never got to play CE, but I always thought "They are just saying it's beautiful because they are drunk on nostalgia" but seeing this comparison... Damn.

[@WaveOfDestiny]

The first time i saw the jackal shields on anniversary i knew something wasn't right. They were fascinating and stunning as a kid. I thought they purposedly made them look bad to make you play on anniversary graphics, to make you buy halo 2 anniversary. Also on pc you can't see yellow jackals wich are much stronger than the blue ones in certain difficulties.

[@GraveUypo]

@@chocchip4172 it still doesn't make it a beautiful game. halo ce had terrible, repetitive level design mostly composed of boring copy-paste corridors. Halo 2 looked like a generation leap. It looked miles better and the real time cutscenes were jaw-dropping stuff back then. and quite honestly, it was also a massively better game overall, not just visually.

[@alqkon]

Aaron Weir i thought the same too he blew my mind, I played the original on Xbox 15 Years ago... and the one on Xbox one the master chief collection always looked weird, that it’s so flat and basic and some game from the 1990’s in classic

[@PADDLERSOFUSA]

I KNEW Cortana changed colors in the original and when I replayed it in the remastered version I had like a Mandela effect thing happen omg

[@Pathetic_Dart]

Are you sure that's what the "Mandella Effect" really does? Because I really can't remember the exact meaning, but I think that's the wrong expression.

[@data-gnome]

@@Pathetic_Dart The Mandela effect is (as it originated) a phenomenon where a large amount of people collectively remember something specific in one particular way, contrary to how it actualy was. Its namesake being that a large number of people remembered that Nelson Mandela died in prison, when in fact he didn't. Which is strange, concidering how high profile of a person he was. This in turned birthed crazy theories of people unknowingly getting moved over to a parallel universe where the world ended up different in a slightly minute way, or something of that nature.. He remembered something in contrary to what reality seemed to be, so he is not wrong in that he thought that he was experiencing the Mandela effect, when in fact the thing he was playing that was marketed as the "definitive" version of that thing, was actually just a mistake made in a poor port of the thing...

[@Pathetic_Dart]

@@data-gnome Oh, thanks for the information!

[@walkermorales337]

VS Voice something similar happened, I remember reading headlines and stories outlining Keanu Reeves suicide, about a troubling personal life and how money and fame couldn’t help him, but he’s obviously alive

[@BioClone]

@@Pathetic_Dart there is a mandela effect regarding to the mengele effect

[@michaelpewat]

2:28 Out of all the times to have a missing footage, this really needed one

[@mrandrossguy9871]

Michael Pewatualuk I guess just look up X-Box Haloce on Google pics ?

[@StrikerTheHedgefox]

Agreed. A huge oversight that dulls the point.

[@odstkefro3343]

@@mrandrossguy9871 I know right. Has KZbin but not chrome would be a wierd excuse.

[@PresidentSunday]

Laziness.

[@M0rshu64]

@@PresidentSunday just like gearbox. Huh, maybe that was the point LNG was trying to make

[@xxgrimriverxx9845]

So it's not always true when people say "nostalgia makes you remember things being better than what they were". In Halo:CE's case it actually was better then. lol

[@gabrieldavis1109]

xXGrimRiverXx exactly! Brings a damn tear to my eye....

[@sonder006]

@Higher Power lol wtf is an upscaler? You mean a TV?

[@razor_no1]

The worst thing about this is that I see the differences the whole time, and always pointed out that the original Halo on Xbox was graphically much better than the PC-version. But the "Masterrace" douchbags always laughed and told me that the PC-version looks SO MUCH better! 😏 Well, good to know who was always right!

[@chrisfratz]

@@sonder006 he's referring to things like the open source scan converter or the framemeister, occasionally takes a low-resolution analog signal and then digitizes and scales the image to an HD resolution.

[@quarreneverett4767]

It's not necessary the monitor. Usually iys bad setup

[@cheshireshadow518]

Wait Cortana is supposed to change color in that cutscene???????? jesus I've literally lived my entire Combat Evolved life as a lie

[@SebReaperGaming]

download the Refined mod, it's fixed. she pulses green and blue

[@idkwmytuni]

The original Halo is also like 10 bucks on Xbox

[@hypershadw]

There's also supposed to be red and purple in it though not just green and blue... It isn't fully fixed yet

[@fanamatakecick97]

Wow

[@Reveticate]

Knowing that in the books her holographic projection changes color based on her core temperature (her mood) I would say that this was a deticated decision.

[@pbateman4124]

Been playing Halo CE on PC since I was a kid. Never knew about this. I've been living a lie.

[@ashleyjohansson230]

My pc version looks exactly like the original xbox version, don't know where that weird downgrade version came from

[@yotornadoyo]

@@ashleyjohansson230 Do you have the xbox version or how do you know?

[@biggiecheese5135]

@@ashleyjohansson230 Same dude! I've always played PC, never had an xbox, but my PC version from a decade ago looked exactly like the xbox version he's describing. Granted, I obviously pirated that game, so maybe I got a properly modded version? To answer yotornadoyo's question, everything he described in this video about transparent shaders and bumpmapping was non existent in my version, Cortana did change colors when she got angry, the windows and shields all looked fine and turned red when shot at, and I didn't need a flashlight to see the proper details, although on that last bit I'm not 100%% certain my memory is perfect, I may be over remembering how detailed it looked, but in general, these are all new issues that I'm only just hearing about for the first time.

[@ashleyjohansson230]

@@yotornadoyo i have both, they look the same except its actually better on pc since i edited the ini to make it 1080p

[@mattymatt2323]

you poor poor soul

[@klenk12]

I hate you for pointing this out. I was living in blissful ignorance, enjoying mcc, and now ill never be able to unsee it 😢

[@tinyman1144]

You know whats weird, is my version of mcc (except the shield walls in truth and rec and the no color change on cortana) looks like the xbox version shown in this video. But then a lot of my games are weirdly slightly different to most people's... or maybe I was just way too high to notice those lesser differences. Now I gotta go play halo ce campaign again to "check" :D

[@xPancakes4lyf]

literally me too!!!

[@Insanabiliter_In_Linea]

@@tinyman1144 Go to Assault on the Control Room and look up at the sky when you're outside, in the original the cliff walls faded to white as they're obscured by the fog, but in MCC and the PC port you can see the tops of them through the fog, making this ugly sort of black line in the sky. Sadly I've never been able to get high enough to not notice it :(

[@xPancakes4lyf]

@Egbert Wadman come, join us brother (or sister) join the PC side....

[@naruto_0988]

@@tinyman1144 gross

[@Johnny.senpai]

Damn never realised how much better the original xbox looked over mcc

[@ChaseBoogie345]

Yeah

[@LemorasCards]

@The homie synaptic has anything definitive from Infinite even been shown yet? Pretty sure it hasn't.

[@m.infernal]

That's more upsetting to me than you know.

[@jacobstarr9010]

343 plz watch this

[@Shadowmythx117]

Because it was on a 144p fat tv

[@Joke65_]

It's understandable that 343 would use a version that supported online play, but it's a tragedy that it means the original game is slowly fading away.

[@LateNightHalo]

Joke65 and Friends! When you’re on a limited budget and timescale (which CEA was) I would have made the same choices. I can only hope 343 revisits it and restores the original

[@chrisfratz]

I heard that 343 did reach out to the people that made the refined campaign for custom edition most likely just to get ideas on what was needed to be fixed

[@hollystlocal2242]

Late Night Gaming OG’s are replicated. Never replaced.

[@feartheghus]

The original game has been dead though, and the stuff that can run it is going out.

[@kohendo447]

Still got my original ce copy I’ll definitely never forget it

[@infinitely5123]

When I laughed at how the classic graphics looked worse than I remembered from childhood, I didn't realize that this was the actual reason. How does Gearbox ruin almost everything they touch?

[@unapersona100real6]

idk they just did right borderlands and the hl expansions

[@RetroFan]

Cause they suck.

[@Graywolf_The_45th]

@@unapersona100real6 Borderlands is overrated

[@unapersona100real6]

@@Graywolf_The_45thwhat about the hl expansions

[@Graywolf_The_45th]

@@unapersona100real6 HL Opposing Force and Blue Shift I actually liked. The HD pack as well I kinda prefer to the vanilla assets in some parts

[@WSTBrenden]

Bungie:"Bet you can't stick it" Gearbox:"Probably won't"

[@xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5]

“What if you miss?” “You’re on”

[@draven4464]

The MCC collection still has more soul than any of those deadass 'Destiny' games. Destiny was a slap in the face to anyone who supported Bungie

[@bidenswetvagoogoo2001]

@@draven4464 I still rather a "new" storyline and game by a company that made my childhood better than a souless, downgraded and crappy version made by an incompetent company like 343. You gotta admit their mistakes dude, i don´t really know how or why the people that didn´t leave with Bungie decided to take this direction with their own IP.

[@staryoshi06]

That side-by-side comparison video sounds like a really good idea.

[@FluffyTheRipper]

Subscribed! Yes please

[@Will057]

I always wondered why MCC Halo CE seemed off. Well now I know.

[@kylecaetana2124]

Facts! I always know it didn't feel or look right... use to play that game all the time.. still do on mcc.. but it don't feel right

[@DefconFG]

Will This

[@pododododoehoh3550]

Kyle Caetana I only ever played it on pc when I was a kid so I literally never even knew until this day! Wtf

[@samidejong106]

Is it the same in the Xbox 360 version?

[@nintendonerdjoseph]

@@samidejong106 Yes.

[@waltermercado9152]

"Despite its troubled development" should be Bungie's tagline for all games it creates.

[@fanamatakecick97]

Walter Mercado Troubled development = amazing legendary games, apparently

[@haydenhyde9395]

@@fanamatakecick97 And also Mighty No. 9

[@fanamatakecick97]

Hayden Hyde ?

[@haydenhyde9395]

@@fanamatakecick97 Troubled development = extremely not legendary game

[@fanamatakecick97]

Hayden Hyde Mighty No. 9 is a game?

[@BiodegradableYTP]

Christ, how does GearBox keep getting work? They really bloody suck.

[@ThunderStruck115]

Probably because of Borderlands, which is like the only thing they're good at

[@jamesbarnes5769]

@Why are we still here Just to suffer absolutely love Opposing Force! Possibly my favorite Half-Life back in the day lol

[@nasty7400]

Brothers in arms is good by gearbox

[@MelonMafia1]

@@ThunderStruck115 Borderlands isn't even that good, the only reason it's famous is because of the "2 billion guns" thing.

[@ThunderStruck115]

@@MelonMafia1 Borderlands is great (OK, maybe not the First game because of How Janky it is). What crack are you smoking?

[@matthewscottshea]

Reminds me of when Rockstar based the HD version of San Andreas on the inferior mobile version because it was quicker and easier to port. Didn't matter that controls where trash and many visual effects were downgraded.

[@Youdrongo]

@ lol so much for it being restored

[@MaurickSh]

Glad I bought the PS2 on PS4 port :D

[@matthewscottshea]

@@MaurickSh I got that version as well. Controls were never the greatest on the PS2 GTA games, but so much better than the HD port. And unlike the PS2 version on PS3, it runs in 1080. Short of owning the original PC version, that's as good as it gets for SA.

[@lord_vwphaeton1883]

Hey atleast Halo works. It is playable.

[@lord_vwphaeton1883]

@Maicol Baay ok nevermind, I'm VERY wrong.

[@GoodBoyRamen]

Someone put Halo:CE in every computer in my school’s library and basically nobody knows about it

[@tylerkulchinsky2167]

lol same

[@girlcrazyrockstar]

That is so cool

[@NoxianSoulHarvester]

Plan a secret lan party lol

[@LoneWolfStuff]

@WikiThis Yeah, nowadays its all blocked

[@ethanross8265]

at my highschool we would have LAN matches during lunch in the library

[@ChachoGSX]

Bumpmapping: Like on Spongebob, when they go in for a close up.

[@rich1051414]

Ren and Stimpy! Spongebob stole that gag!

[@ChachoGSX]

Ren and Stimpy was awesome until they fired the creator.

[@averyterribleperson5292]

@@rich1051414 Actually that's been around since the 50s Looney Toons Cartoons. Also Flapjack did it too.

[@mattmorales4320]

Wouldn’t that be more akin to LOD as opposed to bumpmapping?

[@keypath4389]

@@mattmorales4320 so fun at party huh

[@encephalltl5931]

I started playing the MCC yesterday. During the first chapter of Combat Evolved I noticed these very flat textures. Most videos only compare the "original" and the remastered only on MCC. Thanks a lot for going the extra mile and get that footage of the original. We used to play with eight guys on four television in a friends parents basement. And when i left their mansion early in the morning with my big ass tv on a wheelbarrow, the police picked me up because I looked like a stupid criminal... good times

[@Masterofcandy4]

lol what

[@manixxinam6709]

lol thanks for sharing!

[@TSPH1992]

I noticed that as well when I finished the first mission today

[@sohummohare6364]

You made this up right

[@joet7136]

Carried a big ass tv in a wheelbarrow? This has to be from the South.

[@NeoTeAika]

Damn. I knew about transparency and the glass having broken bump mapping but didn't realize the rest of surfaces were that botched. And KEYES! How the fuck did that happen?

[@Momo02401]

Everything we've discovered and have been able to infer shows that the PC port was splintered off from a pre-release build of the xbox build. This would explain why some things are missing or different, like keyes textures being different, hanging vines missing in 343GS, the hud textures differing, and elites not dodging when you zoom. They were likely added/changed near the tail-end of the games development. Don't take that as fact through until confirmed by someone who actually worked on the game. We are pretty confident this is the case though.

[@protocetid]

@Daddy Max "BL3 iS An EpIc GaMe StOrE eXclUsIVe"

[@NTripleOne]

@@Momo02401 I've had this same theory for years - however I don't believe the schism occurred when halo was an xbox game, I believe it happened when halo *became* an xbox game. Halo was *originally* a PC game before it was an xbox game, I believe the gearbox PC port we got isn't actually a port at all, I believe that it's the continuation of the work from the point in time when halo became an xbox title instead of a PC one. I feel it's less of a case that things are broken and more of a case that they're just straight up _unfinished_ .

[@deepism]

I had no idea This is heresy wtf

[@kabob0077]

Divinatory Cognition "It was a mistake"- Gearbox "Nay, it was Heresy!"- The Fans

[@Zontar82]

unfortunately many players didn't cared, they didn't even started halo ce because "itz old lulz lolz rotfl lmao"

[@Death_Chopper]

Randy Bitchford strikes again

[@kabob0077]

Daniel Hernandez Someone in a certain government correctional facility needs to drag Randy's ass into it.

[@BetterOnichThanSorry]

I swore I noticed a graphical downgrade for the original graphics way back when I played Anniversary on the 360, but when I'd tell others they'd tell me I was crazy. Thank you for giving me closure on this.

[@ytistrash]

they called me a madman :)

[@teh_hunterer]

Same. I knew something was wrong, and I didn't end up playing it all the way through. I remember complaining on a forum and everyone tore me to pieces for disliking it. I swear they fucked up the audio as well. I too feel a lot of closure from this. I also won't be buying MCC if this is the version of the game they use.

[@xehP]

Yeah man, sure, they called you crazy...

[@Unethical.FandubsGames]

@@xehP Why not? This is the internet.

[@McCbobbish]

As soon as you showed the original game footage, I instantly remembered. Like, I got a slug of memory from when I was a small child watching my dad play, when I first played it myself, all those memories. How didn't I notice?

[@jamesgrose510]

"You might not have noticed, but your brain did." -- Harry S. Plinkett

[@TheGreyShaman]

McBobbish I can’t speak for you, but I didn’t notice cuz the story is all that mattered to me. But now that someone brought it up in a video it’s hard not to see

[@robertogurrola7465]

It's weird how I played the mcc a few weeks back but my memory of it is the og

[@kuramaleon4499]

You got lost in the sauce

[@Sebal007]

*THEY ARE AWARE AND WORKING ON IT* For MCC they use the Gearbox PC-Port code as a base. And this version has A LOT of flaws/bugs/missing when it comes to visual fidelity. Since ~ October 2018, they are diffing the original Xbox PC and MCC Version assets and codes to fix what got lost in translation. It has by no means been forgotten. I'd expect to see the fixes coming when CE is added to the PC MCC version as they are working on making the CustomEdition Maps working in the future, too. They are backporting a lot of stuff. *SOURCE* (Section called "Old School") www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-october-update

[@mentionethan]

This comment needs more attention cos it actually shows that although 343 fucked up with halo 4 and 5 they still do really care

[@robertgardner4508]

I hope this is fixed Yuno better be right.

[@Br0ccolini]

they also said they are working on it in the new update and have dug out some old dev kits (under community Q&A) www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-june-2019

[@Life_and_Gaming]

@@mentionethan Halo 4 was dope though, at least narrative wise.

[@averageperson489]

I mean it still kinda sucks real bad but ehh

[@HaythamGruxton]

That walkthrough with the Refined team sounds great

[@james4344]

Bump this to the heavens, I'm too lazy to break out my old Xbox and check the differences for myself.

[@dngrouscrgo]

Bunjie: Halo - Combat Evolved Gearbox: Halo - Combat Regressed

[@noahspiece8114]

*cough* Combat Devolved *cough*

[@Hadgerz]

Seriously, **Devolved** was right there, you were so close.

[@daegnaxqelil2733]

bungie*

[@iainkilcar7463]

New mcc fixed version- combat repaired

[@JudgementRyu]

I just now learned about this. Holy crap what a difference.

[@FloatyBones77]

JudgementRyu999 yeah. The OG Xbox version even had a bit of pearlescence on the outer layer of the chief's armor.

[@odstkefro3343]

@@FloatyBones77 wheares in anniversary and MCC his armour is just olive clay

[@shadepizza4217]

When I played MCC I was thinking, "wow, the new graphics mode is so much better, I don't remember the og version looking this bland and empty"

[@TheLightningYu]

True, though even for the fact that the OG looked better than the Gearbox one, there is still a huge gap between the Remake & OG for obvious reason.

[@hunterhalo]

Shade Pizza i did remembered becaused i owned both version, it felt weird when i play on my pc but i cant explain how

[@jamess.7811]

@@hunterhalo you don't need the two ed's.

[@vinnisvidya]

i dunno, old graphics mode made it to where I stopped shooting walls because the hitboxes on cliffs were actually correct

[@TheMagicQsGaming]

@@vinnisvidya Right! I would go to jump on a ledge or rock, then switch modes to notice why I am falling off.

[@Lexie_Tyler05]

I always thought I noticed some serious differences between the original and MCC, especially with the energy shield and hangar shield effects but never thought anything of it until now, thinking it was because the original graphics weren't made for new systems and therefore causing issues. Edit: I suppose I shouldn't be surprised considering Gearbox's track record of broken messes

[@cherlojomzyaduermanse]

Hello there

[@Deliveredmean42]

You can see how far Gearbox is in terms of poor quality even back then.

[@Lexie_Tyler05]

@@Nighterlev that's what I'm saying

[@cherlojomzyaduermanse]

@@Nighterlev And saber interactive that made the mistake of using it for CEA

[@8KilgoreTrout4]

Oh man the extra details on that game, like when you walk up to a rock and then you see all the details.. The OG Xbox was amazing!

[@madman407708]

Oh my god?!? Gearbox, breaking a game?!? Why this is entirely unheard of, they've been such a good studio!?!

[@fanamatakecick97]

Perpetual Peter The facetiousness is strong with this one

[@duncanharrell5009]

Because they seemingly sabotage any game that isn’t their precious Borderlands.

[@diddlenfiddle7311]

@@duncanharrell5009 Err Half Life: Opposing Force was an amazing add-on to half life

[@karrotakun3581]

I'd give a like to your comment, but it's already got the perfect 117.

[@duncanharrell5009]

@@karrotakun3581 The hardest of choices require the strongest of wills.

[@brycevo]

I really hope they can restore Halo to its original. I remember it looking so beautiful, and anniversary Classic felt a little off. Now I know why, Thank you

[@basilman121]

Glad I have the og game now

[@volkerball85]

Also, in regards to the shader issues stemming seemingly from one little tiny mistake, keep in mind that Gearbox also fucked up the Alien AI in Colonial Marines *the exact same damned way.*

[@General_C]

ban gearbox

[@yuca2k1]

slightlyoutofreach01 I heard there’s a line of code that could fix that. Read it somewhere online years ago.

[@shotgunmasterQL]

Its not necessarily outright Gearboxes fault, because the people who did the initial mistake were the ones who it was outsourced to. Gearbox paid them pennies and their time window was strict, so obviously they never had the time to even attempt to fix it, and Gearbox themselves probably didnt care enough.

[@misterpurple9886]

Their only good game series is Borderlands and they stole that idea from a guy named Ben Hibon. Borderlands only came out they way it did due to Code Hunters.

[@spencerc7819]

If you haven't already, go download the Templar GFX Overhaul for Colonial Marines. It changes graphics settings to make the game much darker and have a creepier feel similar to the E3 trailer, plus (and most importantly) it overhauls the Xeno AI so that it hunts in the shadows and will rush you when you're not looking making the game MUCH more intense and fun to play. A friend and I still play online co-op together and the mod works for that too if you both have it.

[@Carnyzzle]

This just adds to my theory that gearbox doesn't care about anything that isn't a Borderlands game

[@FrahdChikun]

Nah, they also don't care for Borderlands, look at 3.

[@samuelolivier3792]

Carnyzzle they cared about half life 1, they made 2 awesome dlc and on the ps2 port even added a new co op campaign.

[@XxgoodbudsxX]

They don't care about borderlands ether. Did you play 3 it's awful

[@brahmruzek9305]

@@XxgoodbudsxX not really, but ok

[@barkingapollo]

Are you kidding? BL3 is mess and while I do enjoy the series they are rife with bugs and glitches.

[@jonathanschipper4202]

I've got to say it. You really have to admire the respect and dedication that this man has for his craft. He'll take you on a nostalgia trip, while educating you throughout the video. I didn't know what Bump Mapping was until today.

[@igorthelight]

Next lesson: normal maps! :-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJCQf4GBmJmfqM0

[@MrDontSmokeKids]

There was always a gut feeling I had when I would see the "original" graphics on MCC that something seemed off, thank you for scratching that itch of curiosity and annoyance.

[@FrostyWheats]

MrDontSmokeKids 117 likes

[@PunishedCreepswork4]

i played CE on pc originally... damn, i thought that was how it always looked. _THERE GOES MY MEMORIES_

[@Tygron]

You and me both. I even played a small bit of the Xbox version, I just didn't play long enough to notice.

[@ashleyjohansson230]

This video is actually misleading, the original PC version was actually the same as xbox's. He actually never played the original himself and thinks PC's original version is the same as MCC.

[@Altroante]

@@ashleyjohansson230 this, exactly. This video is flat out wrong.

[@thatsneakyneenja2595]

@microcuts it isn't wrong, he just never specifically states which version he is talking about.

[@spasecad3t]

​ @@ashleyjohansson230 @microcuts The first PC version of Halo CE was made by Gearbox in 2003 and the graphics were noticeably different to me. What are you talking about? I'd also like to add that the original Xbox game renders differently on newer consoles than on the original Xbox.

[@mjmanoni]

The PC release of Halo CE on MCC just launched yesterday and it is writhe with issues as well as bump-mapping and transparent shaders STILL NOT FIXED. Please make a follow up to this as the MCC has not resolved the issues. I don't want them to move on to Halo 2 without fixing this =(.

[@SlyNine]

😭 Yep still broken

[@JohnGrahamDoe]

Can confirm. What a disgraceful butchering of a classic. I'm disgusted. I only play on original graphics as well. The updated graphics are interesting and well done, but they are NOT a REMASTER; they are a RE-IMAGINING. Many levels look completely unrecognizable from the original. The most obvious level to see this on is Truth and Reconciliation. The first part of the level is in a desert-like area in the original graphics; the "remastered" graphics make it into a lush forest/jungle area. The same goes for Halo 2 "remastered" graphics. So many of the iconic locales look NOTHING like the original version other than having the same basic geometry.

[@psychotictrait3757]

John Graham Doe Woah, I actually really loved Halo 2 anniversary graphics so much more than CE’s ugly anniversary graphics. I have to disagree there.

[@JohnGrahamDoe]

@@psychotictrait3757 I'm not saying they don't look good, I'm just saying that they don't look like the originals. For example, High Charity does not look at all like the original version. A lot of the colors are completely changed, going from more of a dark magenta to a true purple. Some of the background geometry is also completely changed. It definitely looks good, but it is NOT a remaster. Remastering would be updating the old graphics but maintaining the same style and design. Instead, they completely reimagined the original (usually making changes that cause the games to look more in-sync with future Halo titles). The remasters do look good, but they just stray too far from the originals for me in a lot of areas.

[@psychotictrait3757]

John Graham Doe again, I have to disagree. Halo 2A was pretty much the only modern artstyle I loved because it retained a lot of the classic designs but modernized them. Halo CEA anniversary was ugly and tried going for a more Reach look. But everything was so fucking ugly, Espeically Chief’s hunchback of Nortedam armor anniversary armor. New Mombasa actually looks to par with ODSTs interpretation of it.

[@nelite8817]

E3 is so close got like around 2 weeks left i think

[@protosaur]

I'm excited for some sweet infinite news(if there is any)

[@GlassStatus]

@@protosaur I guarantee we'll see infinite at this year's e3

[@protosaur]

@K John good luck on finals

[@nelite8817]

@K John Good luck study hard

[@vac3060]

@@tp.lovecraft1446 how did you have your finals but you still play mobile Roblox

[@Eowen129]

i still have my original Halo CE disc and the first Xbox, remember i got on the MCC and was wondering if the graphics were actually that bad, cause i remembered an insane and beautiful game when i first got my Xbox. This just confirms im not halucinating. Thanks for making people aware of this, cause the first halo looked really good for being such an old game

[@ukl33]

Halocinating.

[@Ratich]

If you still have the OG Xbox and it still works you should look into removing the clock capacitor so that it doesn't damage it.

[@Eowen129]

@@Ratich never heard about any issues with the OG Xbox, or are you thinking about the RROD on 360?

[@Ratich]

@@Eowen129 Nope I am talking about the OG Xbox basically there is a capacitor on the motherboard of the OG Xbox that stores time that capacitor starts leaking acid after a while and that acid can damage the motherboard so you may want to get that remove and maybe check of the HDD is failing.

[@Robbie_Haruna]

I mean that's nostalgia for you. Halo 1 was certainly a beautiful game in 2001, but even the original nowadays looks like crap visually. Certainly impressive for its time (which is where the nostalgia comes from,) but hasn't exactly aged gracefully.

[@NoxianSoulHarvester]

I literally remember going "huh this isn't how i remembered combat evolved graphics were they really this bad back then?" NO THEY WEREN'T i fucking knew it

[@joeyvitale24]

I hope this discussion is still going on because the mcc deserves a fixed CE

[@BOTSamJ]

6:09 BONELESS CE port!!! THE STUFF IS BONELESS DAWG!

[@kabob0077]

BOT- Sam.J WHERE'S THE BONES!?

[@kabob0077]

TheBunkerBuster 105 Yo man, you ever see that documentary uh.... National Treasure?

[@Augmental_Art]

I always remembered Combat Evolved looking better in my memory, at first I thought it was my nostalgia but now I see I wasn't crazy.

[@normalcarrot6361]

Saul Muratalla I couldn’t put my finger on it, but I knew that something was wrong when all crew members wears grey instead of blue and yellow. I’m glad i still have the original version and plays on 360.

[@ashleyjohansson230]

This video lied, only MCC's version is downgraded.

[@Borgforce]

I always thought that too! - On another note I always loved looking up to the sky and seeing the other ‘side’ of the halo ring - it made me think where are we going next, what structures there are, what do the landmasses look like closer up. I hated that in the CE:A version the put all that sky in - the weather looked good, but blocked the view of the whole ring, I don’t know if that’s what Bungie wanted to do all along or not... but it took the wonder of it all out for me. (Don’t know if that makes sense?)

[@normalcarrot6361]

C. Phillips Yeah, it’s the very reason i fell in love with this game was seeing the ring go up and around, the atmosphere makes since. Xbox version must of had an update because my blue red guys are around now. So I’m doing a all nighter 🤠

[@itmaniscrazy]

4:50 that seems to be a recurring theme about one line of code blowing a game up with gearbox

[@Emertxe4]

Honestly, if it really is literally one single thing causing the problem, that's probably a good thing. Just means that there's only one thing in one place that they have to fix, as opposed to having to debug everything everywhere.

[@itmaniscrazy]

Emertxe well the problem is they don’t fix the one thing, like with aliens colonial marines they had one line of code missing for the aliens and it took someone 4 years to figure out that’s the problem. Unpaid modders are doing the work these people get paid to do professionally

[@IonicHyperspace]

“Hey Gearbox can you fix Shader_Transparent_Generic to Halo CE?” Gearbox: “Sorry we don’t do that here.”

[@KilluaZoldyck-de1hq]

uhhh Shader_Transparent_Generic machine 🅱️roke

[@steveothebassist]

Gearbox: Halo machine broke 343: Understandable, have a great day

[@ThunderStruck115]

There can be no greater heresy! Let it be an example to all who would break our game!

[@UnitAlir]

Here-tics! Here-tics!

[@retropulse03]

Better solution. Put Halo on the Backwards Compatibility program so we can just play the original without relying on after-the-fact sub-standard ports.

[@daseal1479]

GENIUS.

[@littlesnuggle529]

I mean, it _kinda_ already is backwards compatible because you can just slap the OG game into your Xbox One and play it normally but, of course, there's no multiplayer beyond system link and split screen

[@retropulse03]

@@littlesnuggle529 What? You can't play the XBOX copy on your X1. At all. The only MP the original Halo even had was System Link and Split Screen, so I have no idea what you are even talking about.

[@spacemanapeinc7202]

SkyHighGam3r You can still play it on an Xbox 360, well if you have one.

[@OrangeSodaKing]

But then they can't make as much money off of that.

[@rentalsnake6542]

7:37 this is where it really started to sting for me, thanks for highlighting these issues, I never realised that the original game had been tarnished like this, it's sickening that this bastardised version is being remembered as the original Halo and even emulated by other devs.

[@saverofthehumens]

So essentially, Gearbugs added Skyrim waterfalls to CE. That's an impressive level of shit.

[@thefantasticdrill788]

I can deal with transparent shaders being missing, but bump mapping is very important.

[@willbo6530]

“Gearbox broke something...small, but very important.” Another A:CM typo disaster.

[@Drag0n092x]

I think it’s safe to say this video is responsible for the MCC version being fixed. So thank you.

[@NazmusLabs]

possibly, yeah! And Allah (S.W.T.) knows best

[@SpecialEDy]

I got the original Xbox the day it came out, and i was sad when my parents bought me Halo for Christmas 2001 instead of the fighter jet game I had wanted. It turned out to be an excellent game, right up there with Doom, Half life, and Goldeneye 64.

[@TSPH1992]

Ah yes. Goldeneye 64. Good times good times

[@wereitsoeasy5733]

I always felt that there was something 'off' about the MCC Halo CE in OG graphics... and now I know why. I played it on the OG xbox since I was 4, it was glaring something was wrong

[@yarplurch4816]

Me too, except I had kinda forgotten about it. I can still play on my xbox, but the mcc's controls are so smooth it's hard for me to go back

[@wereitsoeasy5733]

@@yarplurch4816 Yeh thats fair. My original Xbox was my brothers and he moved out unfortunately. I cannot play Halo CE in anniversary graphics - it's just not right hahah

[@moistvibes5697]

Isn't it backwards compatible with Xbox 360 I remember playing Halo 2 finally again back in 2013,when Xbox one first came out,that day I bought Halo 2 and put it into my 360 and playing it

[@NyxTheNerd]

Yeah, I did too. I still have my OG copy, but my Xbox is broken and my 360 doesn’t have a HDD, so I can’t play it. My question is how in the hell did they mess up Keyes’ model?

[@wereitsoeasy5733]

@@NyxTheNerd hahah i guess we'll never know!

[@XaneMyers]

This reminds me of Sonic Adventure, where the original did a lot of things better than its port, SADX. That inferior-looking port was the base for later versions, too...

[@kenpanderz672]

luckily there are a good selection of mods for the PC version that brings alot of the original, and superior, Dreamcast aspects back. cant remember the details off the top of my head, but it shouldnt be hard to find.

[@scythescythe884]

theres some Brazilian guy out there trying to fix it by using dream cast assets. i forgot where i read that from though so i could use help finding the source if anyone else remembers this. i actually hope to be skilled enough one day to do a 2019 overhaul of the graphics, making everything look more like the games's concept art styles, better transparencies high poly meshes, new textures, animations, character models, etc... maybe even gemeplay fixes for a few of the "insta death" spots i remember... SAB2 is just one of the many games im be passionate about doing this to. i really want to do this to skyrim and vampire the masquerade:bloodlines too... and many others.

[@luistailsprower3051]

At least the models are slightly higher poly

[@MediQate]

We must make this relevant. Halo CE doesn’t deserve this, if they’re not remaking CE from the ground up for its 20 year anniversary I’ll revolt. 12 teraflops next gen and all this talk about power and speed so they better fucking fix the game that got them where they are.

[@fantasmacstrp9239]

In my opinion they would be milking CE too much already, and that would delay even more the development of MCC for the PC not to mention Infinite.

[@MediQate]

Fantasma CSTRP Halo CE got Xbox and Halo where they are and Halo CE Anniversary was a Halo Reach retexture of Gearbox Software's terrible Halo CE PC port.. Combat Evolved deserves a proper remake from the ground up for it's 20th year anniversary and they need to fix classic CE's graphics. They could add forge, theater, online multiplayer, firefight I suppose and make it a full new version of the classic or just stick to the original completely and charge less with no new features. It's an option, nobody NEEDS to buy it and it would be the right thing to do for the game that started it all for the fans that were there from the beginning.

[@fantasmacstrp9239]

@@MediQate Dude, they're not doing it soon considering they have to port 5 halo games to the PC, and finish Halo Infinite. Not to mention it's 343 man, if it was Bungie you would've got the remake you wanted. I mean, you could still enjoy the SPV3 mod. It's pretty sick tbh.

[@SlyNine]

Is still using broken graphics! So disappointing!

[@Ossory88]

Hear hear. This guy gets it!

[@gnarkillguch]

I kept telling my brother that the MCC version was worse than the of Xbox. He refused to believe me. Guess I'll share this video and gloat now.

[@7thninjaturtle]

I'd honestly take the much better framerate and online over the very slight improvements the original had

[@Yakasuki]

​@@7thninjaturtle​ As much as I would agree with you that is not the issue, framerate was not an issue back then. Gearbox botched the PC version of graphical fidelity that didn't cost much if any performance. In otherwords, you could have as many frames as you want but it just wont look as good as it could be.

[@Rythaze]

As a CE zealot, I completely agree. This has been something bothering me for a while, but no one gives a damn whenever I complain lmao

[@pododododoehoh3550]

Rythaze I think a lot of people like myself just didn’t even know because I played the pc port when I was a kid

[@Rythaze]

Pododododo Ehoh that’s fair

[@tave7779]

+1 for being a ce zealot

[@verum117]

I care boo boo bear... lmao jk

[@capitalistpig89ful]

As somebody who spent countless hours playing Halo: CE on the Xbox your video summed up all of the problems I had with the Anniversary edition of Halo. Thanks for making this

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

People often are quick to jump to the conclusion that the graphical issues in the PC port of Halo were Gearbox's fault, not knowing they were given an incomplete earlier version of the original source code. Many of these graphical elements were last minute additions to the game, and unfortunately Gearbox didn't have access to them at the time.

[@FoxyGrandpa1]

I’ve been looking forward to this. I never realized how much what changed. I hope they fix it one day. Great video dude

[@Lea-pe6iw]

Oh my god. I KNEW something was off when playing Halo1 on MCC. I KNEW it looked worse than I remembered. Thank you for this video.

[@solaris5303]

Nostalgia probably took a pretty huge part in that too.

[@teh_hunterer]

@@solaris5303 Probably not though. Did you watch the video?

[@solaris5303]

I did, but nostalgia always warps memories of graphics and you've got to remember most people were playing the OG game on a tiny 4:3. Of course it objectively looks worse now but remembering better visuals than there really were is very, very common.

[@haydentravis3348]

It's amazing how few people had the original to load up to compare. I noticed right away and had no question, even before I loaded up the original to verify.

[@scythelord]

@@solaris5303 Nostalgia doesn't have anything to do with it when it's a game you've played in the last year. I often hear people talk of nostalgia being a huge part in making people love some games over others, but well, nostalgia doesn't keep me playing games 20 years after first playing them. Hell I am currently playing through FF7 for probably the thousandth time. Nostalgia doesn't make me love that game more than other final fantasy games. I'd played all the ones before and after it when they were new. That's just the story and gameplay I like the best. Nostalgia can only be a factor if it was something you experienced when you were much younger and many years later just had all your good memories involving that thing, without experiencing it first hand since.

[@Momo02401]

For anyone interested, here's our internal list of what issues we discovered, what they affect, and how to fix them. www.reddit.com/r/HaloCERefined/comments/9lpk6m/port_issues_masterlist/

[@DaDARKPass]

I still don't like your team for making that "best version" of the refined mod.

[@Momo02401]

@@DaDARKPass it was a joke version that made a lot of people laugh a lot. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it.

[@derpyFx]

I can't believe I never noticed I knew something was different but I couldn't tell what

[@hockeymaskbob2942]

Thanks

[@MrBricks148]

Playing the flighting for PC now and all the issues are still here :/

[@Hirotoro4692]

Submit it as tickets. I did. I figure they're working on getting the game stable first.

[@Bobthehuntedbobcat]

@@Hirotoro4692 Turns out they neither made the game stable nor fixed the issues in this video

[@Jedi_Spartan]

I hope we get the original original graphics in Halo PC

[@pododododoehoh3550]

Jedi Spartan 38 Chances of that are basically zero seeing as it was halos pc port by gearbox that fucked up the graphics in the first place but is also the only version with online play hence why it was used in mcc so they could add classic multiplayer.

[@davefan16]

Don't count on it

[@Jedi_Spartan]

@@pododododoehoh3550 true. Although, in all honesty, I don't get why the original 2011 version of CEA uses it as it just used Reach's engine for the multiplayer with the Anniversary Map Pack.

[@Schytheron]

@@pododododoehoh3550 Yeah. It's highly unlikely. The good part however is that Gearbox isn't doing the MCC PC port. That is mainly handled by Splash Damage who have made some of the best PC ports I've ever seen (Gears of War 4's PC port is close to perfection and Splash Damage was in charge of it). I have full faith that the PC port of MCC will be fantastic.

[@MinesweepActual]

And on Xbox mcc

[@angeluisidro8444]

Right after I bought Halo CEA... ...Damn. Same problems are on it too

[@mastervidxad5883]

A lot of these things seem to happen with releases of ports being inferior to the original when it came to the game's look. Sonic Adventure 1 + 2 are one example.

[@ComradePilas]

This year, Halo CE would turn 20 years... I really, REALLY hope they do something about this

[@matthewmagnani2915]

They’re doing it! THEY’RE FIXING IT!

[@rufousthefox9766]

They've fixed most of the issues in the season 7 update.

[@SpectorEuro4]

@@matthewmagnani2915 they never fixed jack sh1t

[@matthewmagnani2915]

@@SpectorEuro4 It’s not perfect, but it’s definitely an improvement from 2019.

[@MomJeans1738]

@@SpectorEuro4 chill white boy

[@tannerhoke]

Thank you for shedding light on this issue. I wondered why it looked worse. But let's not forget the OG audio is still missing.

[@seralicious6475]

Tanner Hoke *cough* light on the issue *cough*

[@WaveOfDestiny]

I remember shooting human weapons on a shield was like an asmr. The sound of the bullets bouncing around.

[@tannerhoke]

@@seralicious6475 subtle right? haha

[@seralicious6475]

Tanner Hoke haha as subtle as he detail

[@FF-kc7fc]

Yep. The Halo CE windows port by Gearbox had original audio, but for some reason, Halo MCC doesn't change audio samples when changing to classic mode...

[@rj009ok]

can i have uhhh 🅱️ O N E L E S S Halo Combat Evolve gearbox: yes

[@TherealEmersonSilva]

ＤᎥČ𝐊н𝐞Δ𝕕 Name one Halo that got bone in it

[@nightworld4658]

@@TherealEmersonSilva Halo 2

[@OfficialDJSoru]

@@TherealEmersonSilva just don't put them shits on my Halo bruh. If it aint got a bone, iss 🅱️ O N E L E S S

[@PixelPhoenix]

Ahaha, read this like you're at McDonalds ordering at the cash register while looking at the menu.

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

I’m lost as to how Gearbox was paid for “completion” of this project. This is fubar.

[@fitzgerald6466]

Neural Tech this is fubar lmao what are you the half life opposing force engineer lmao fubar

[@shred1894]

Besides the graphical issues and a few bugs, it's actually not horrible though. It brought Halo to PC, and they repackaged the dev tools in Custom Edition expansion. Without Gearbox, we wouldn't have all the modded content like SPV3 and Lumoria and all the other stuff that we have on PC.

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

Copy that. Well that’s good to know that, at minimum, it benefitted the PC modding community... can’t argue with that. 👍

[@shred1894]

@@ghfjfghjasdfasdf That, and you gotta remember that until Halo 2 was ported over in 2006, HCE was the only Halo experience on PC. Heck, without Halo CE being ported to begin with, there probably wouldn't have been such a desire for Halo to be on PC, and without so many people wanting it, we wouldn't have the MCC on PC now.

[@janne7263]

@@shred1894 Halo was supposed to be a Mac and PC game from the beginning. Thats why CE was ported. So yes, there would have been demand for it either way

[@Dilandau87]

Hey LNG! With the release of MCC's Halo CE on PC, have you considered doing a follow up to this? I can't help feel like this is really relevant to the flighting of HCE!

[@giovanni12465]

@easy eevee it is

[@flaquito6296]

easy eevee 343 has acknowledged it tho

[@spartanwar1185]

"Footage missing" >proceeds to show proper footage of jackal shield turning red in original game, with bump maps visible

[@RC-no8qo]

A very important video to make! I forgot how good the OG graphics looked 😬

[@voxkoshka]

Yo, why is gearbox such ass? I didn't know about any of this and I'm happy you gave the heads up on it.

[@WhatzHappeningNow9]

Because Randy Pitchford is a scumbag CEO

[@0XIIIIII]

Borderlands is the best idk what you mean by ass, but did they do an ass job on halo definitely

[@0XIIIIII]

@@WhatzHappeningNow9 back in the day he was okay slowly started to change

[@Unethical.FandubsGames]

@@0XIIIIII borderlands is overrated schlock

[@0XIIIIII]

@@Unethical.FandubsGames 5 million people disagree lol

[@IrisCorven]

The funniest part about them using it due to its multiplayer capability is that - when Gearbox's port released on PC? The multiplayer was FAMOUSLY busted. The netcode was an absolute mess, and staying connected to a game, or the game not crashing was a rarity for almost a year.

[@GruntyGame]

"Yeah, Gearbox, what do ya want?" "Yeah, uh, lemme get a PC port *🅱️ 🅾️ N 3️⃣ 🕒 📧🐍🐉*

[@weegle.]

We don't allow boneless pc ports in this area

[@chavzone]

"yo but lemme ask you, how can a PC port be BONELESS if it don't got no shader_transparent_generic ?"

[@weegle.]

@@chavzone no its because it has no bones duh

[@Theren_Alister_XIII]

I just want to know the employee at Bungie who thought it was a good idea to hire a studio whos best known for a game that looks like a bad 1950's comic book.

[@shatpostsupplier1570]

I find it disgusting that I immediately understood what that garbled mess of emojis meant. It makes me want to make myself bonless

[@herrlogan17]

Gearbox quality assurance. Like Duke Nukem or Aliens: Colonial Marines.

[@haydentravis3348]

They have a completely different standard for their own games, too. I would not recommend outsourcing anything to them because they put the least amount of effort in possible and, historically, release broken or downgraded products. They should be blacklisted by the industry, at least as far as outsourcing goes. Nobody can stop them releasing their own games, but nbody should hire them.

[@AzureFlameGod1986]

Sir, I’ve been watching your channel for some time now and you really hit the nail on the head with these topics on Halo CE’s graphics and design vs Halo CEA. I was literally just ranting to a friend the other night about exactly what you just said in this video and more that I didn’t even know about. I really had no idea that the bump mapping didn’t work unless a light was shined on the Forerunner metals. And I look at the stuff with absolute obsession. Thanks for pointing that out. Please keep doing more videos like this. I enjoy sharing them and get my... our points across to my friends and others that care to listen. Maybe one day 343 will realize this and fix these issues with a more accurate classic looking 20th Halo CEA in the future.

[@000wolf]

God, do I loathe Gearbox.

[@mrnohax5436]

heres a good reason: step 1: play control room on ce step 2: when you reach the bridge look up step 3: *Get Mad*

[@DISORDEREDYT]

I noticed on Halo 2 classic lockout there's no snow falling from the sky like the original Xbox version.

[@lostkaiser1995]

DISORDER3D it appears it also uses the Halo 2 Vista port instead of the OG Xbox version

[@Aruami]

Gearbox is giving bungie a bad name? Hmmm that reminds me... ACTIVISION with destiny 2.

[@AceSimGaming]

No more Activision now :D

[@jordanborisch4583]

AceSim Gaming activision night have split but the changes they made are all still there. I hope that eventually Bungie will rid themselves of that filth

[@roar104]

Imagine thinking it was Activision making the game bad and not years of incompetence by bungie lmao

[@toad1054]

mr roar104 me and my friend were just talking about this lol

[@grimbo1187]

I was about to fall asleep, then this came out, guess my sleep schedule is already ruined

[@WokeDEMOCRATShaveASPD]

I can assure you, Sandman hates me the most.

[@jackburton307]

PLEASE do an update on this with the most recent update to MCC!

[@HeroicASF]

I'm looking forward to the level by level walkthrough. I grew up on the PC version and it kinda sucks knowing I wasnt getting the full experience.

[@lewisrobinson4560]

it'll still hold a precious place in my heart.

[@RoxanneGoat]

tl,dr it's Randy Pitchford's fault... again!

[@sten0n373]

Burn the witch

[@Naded]

Great video, would love to see more of the side by sides, I shared this in my discord btw

[@jericosha2842]

Love you bb. Keep streaming, good stuff

[@sirejester1155]

Its insane to me that CE looked as beautifal it did when it was released and had so many details with its era

[@The_Nova1253]

With MCC coming to steam, i really hope that version fixes these problems.

[@Dorraj]

What makes you think they're gonna change anything like that lol

[@Seedonator]

@@Dorraj www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-october-update go to the section called old school

[@KiwiClawDHA]

Wha...a..what? It's coming to steam!?

[@masaki_yutaka]

@@KiwiClawDHA MCC will be released on December 3rd, 2019

[@Banning133]

One thing I also noticed in the Remake's graphics is that bullet casings don't stay for very long and roll along the ground like they do in the original.

[@billm1234]

Random person: I know a lot about Halo Combat Evolved Late night: hold my beer

[@stuffedmannequin]

This cleared up so many questions I've had. I played OG Halo on Xbox in 2002-2003, and I was always struck by how colorful and lively the world around me was. Recently picked up MCC on the Steam sale and played through it for the first time since. I kept telling myself that the game was old, but I couldn't help but feel something nagging at me that something was wrong.