pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump it up - Logic That shit was hilarious
@wileymoore39142 ай бұрын
Ayo he wasn’t tho. Imagine how budden of all people, critiquing someone else’s music 😂
@blinkingfishfullstop2 ай бұрын
@@wileymoore3914 alright dont get too comfortable
@wileymoore39142 ай бұрын
@@blinkingfishfullstop u must be Joe budden’s burner account huh 😂
@imbored91562 ай бұрын
@wileymoore3914 Nah man everybody know that song is a classic. You ain't never seen You Got Served huh? That's a fucking hype song.
@imbored91562 ай бұрын
@@wileymoore3914 And no, I don't listen to Joe Budden but that song honestly imo was a bad comparison because the dude got to like the 2nd "pump" and I was already hyped tryna bust a move. I didn't even know that was Joe Budden's song.
@Jane-oz7pp2 ай бұрын
"I'd rather be with my son. I hope that doesn't sound wrong" nah bossman, only thing in life that's always right.
@Scarecrow6192 ай бұрын
Ong my boy
@Scorpiogirl_10292 ай бұрын
@@Jane-oz7pp Family always comes first.
@miike22 ай бұрын
rappers be leaving their family so much that he genuinely feels wrong for doing that
@psycho_stan1992 ай бұрын
Preach
@roshiiirohoe2 ай бұрын
real
@DHDHDH1552 ай бұрын
Everyone know logic just the white eminem
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
That’s a violation lmfaoo
@Jane-oz7pp2 ай бұрын
bro that's so wrong 😭😭
@Hamilfan312 ай бұрын
aint that from the kendrick tweet lmao
@Scorpiogirl_10292 ай бұрын
Geez. That's so not cool. 😅😂
@joonbee2 ай бұрын
that’s real asf 💀
@gtsavestheday65692 ай бұрын
Hopsin and Dax gotta be the most consistently corny mf’s ever.
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
They deserve to be right next to each other. Almost his direct successor
@christianrowe9922 ай бұрын
@@_FLWRSI'm sorry you can find hopsin corny but lowkey is a fucking banger bro
@gtsavestheday65692 ай бұрын
@@christianrowe992 was* he had a ton of potential but compromised it all with corny tracks and wack bars for like a three year period even on his features.
@smokeybowls1872 ай бұрын
Hopsin matured after leaving the US and finding himself elsewhere. Especially when he started the UP project and began getting involved in trying to help talented underground artists break through like he did. It does show in his music now. He's still got the angry motor mouth flow, but I think he's learned to move away from the cheap shock value that brought him fame. Dax though... Dude can't escape his corniness. Or the fact that he's a scam artist.
@Transport4ThatDumpTruck2 ай бұрын
Their consistency at being corny is so scary that it's actually impressive.
@Krazo1012 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but in this day and age I can't bring myself to shit on Logic while guys like Playboy Carti are out here being both shitty people and completely talentless artists. Compared to Carti, Logic may as well be Nasir Jones.
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
That’s fair
@PinoGrigio772 ай бұрын
Valid
@SegwaeThePromo2 ай бұрын
Bro carti choked his pregnant gf and still don’t scare the hoes as much as logic. What are you talking about
@TMan101032 ай бұрын
Joe Budden never heard songs like Roll Call or Dead President 3 by Logic. In no universe is he the worst rapper.
@xletzyy2 ай бұрын
@@TMan10103 facts. he just hating on logic cause hes white for real.
@skatinwhenican2 ай бұрын
Young Sinatra, Under Pressure, The Incredible True Story… all classics
@wedabestradi0962 ай бұрын
Everything after has been trash more or less tho
@whoops_i_tripped2 ай бұрын
@wedabestradi096 idk his recent work been pretty solid. vinyl days and ultra 85 feel a lot like his early stuff
@deanoor93912 ай бұрын
Everything from No pressure and onward has been incredible bodies of work
@thefirsttrillionaire29252 ай бұрын
@@whoops_i_trippedthis 🗣️
@gs3012 ай бұрын
@@whoops_i_trippedultra 85 is just a terrible recreation of The Incredible True Story. He raps like he doesn’t want to rap, the flow is all over the place, lyrics are repetitive and terrible, subject matter are things he said on No Pressure, etc etc. I can go on about this, but face the fact that logic is NOT good anymore and he’s only becoming more of a terrible person.
@egg-ts4fo2 ай бұрын
Cordae the type of person to say harry potter spells in public
@BlooBoi232 ай бұрын
Lmfao 🤣 Cordae cool tho
@amcg60752 ай бұрын
💯😭🤣
@NkosanaMakhubele2 ай бұрын
Cordae is corny too??
@MM-gp9mb2 ай бұрын
@@BlooBoi23Cool where? He's corny asl lol
@BlooBoi232 ай бұрын
@@MM-gp9mb I don’t pay too much attention to him outside of his music but I be seeing some stuff from him. What’s make yall say that ?
@nicholasmiller77202 ай бұрын
0:27 I ain’t gonn lie, he ate him up with that Pump It Up song
@ProfNDKai2 ай бұрын
ATE HIM THE F UP I just know budden was mad
@kelseybenn6512 ай бұрын
Yeah. He fucking destroyed Joe Budden either this one
@OrbitScribblez2 ай бұрын
Under pressure album is amazing
@postboygokuu67792 ай бұрын
It’s a dope album. He’s still corny though
@NkosanaMakhubele2 ай бұрын
@@postboygokuu6779 why?
@rlevy132 ай бұрын
@NkosanaMakhubele because everytime he opens his mouth its justifying he's black.
@xletzyy2 ай бұрын
@@NkosanaMakhubele cause hes white in a black dominated field.
@xnlac2 ай бұрын
@NkosanaMakhubele derivative as hell and he filled with biracial victimhood
@NoirNameless2 ай бұрын
Where logic messed up was when the “peace love and positivity” and “biracial” stuff became memes, he leaned into them in comedic ways instead of proving he’s not someone to be laughed at by way of just releasing great music. It should’ve been “Ha. Yeah. That’s funny… I’m still a rapper though, and y’all not about to play with me”.
@silversoulken2 ай бұрын
The Genius episodes really did him in here
@NoirNameless2 ай бұрын
@@silversoulkenPretty much lol. He just got too weird😂😂
@TMan101032 ай бұрын
The internet picked on logic for no reason. He made a concept album about race and people started making fun of him for being biracial. He seldom mentioned being biracial before that album.m but once that meme became popular it messed him up. The internet is full of assholes. Logic had a harder life than most of them and survived through shit that they couldn’t.
@NoirNameless2 ай бұрын
@@TMan10103 Nah. Lol. That’s because it literally started when he dropped Everybody. It was too over the top, corny, and annoying to constantly mention instead of doing your best to make great music. It was lame, and he leaned into it when he should’ve been showing people why he should be taken serious. He failed to do so.
@TMan101032 ай бұрын
@@NoirNameless yes but the point I’m making is that was the concept of the album. The concept was about his race and he had every right to speak about it, no matter how corny some of the songs were. The internet blew it up to make it seem like that’s all he talked about when he had like 6+ projects before that where he barely mentioned race. Everybody wasn’t anywhere near the level of cringe some of his future albums would go. I still listen to Mos Definitely off Everybody. He should have brushed it off, but when the whole world is making fun of you and you already seek validation because of a fucked up childhood, you can’t brush it off without going to therapy and addressing self hatred. He could rap, but when you don’t have self confidence in yourself, the fact that you can rap won’t change anything. He should have handled it better, but he didn’t have the tools necessary to do so.
@J03L-2 ай бұрын
Don’t worry about wanting to spend time with your family man. The contents great as always. You’ve got your priorities set straight.
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Thanks bro and I appreciate you watchin
@sawssman9652 ай бұрын
Tom Mcdonald is by far the worst
@bretwojarski58422 ай бұрын
Don’t remind me of that guys existence I agree tho no rapper is more worse or more corny than fuckin Tom McDonald
@SirrSpeed2 ай бұрын
yup
@s7nseer2 ай бұрын
Tom McDonald’s corny as corny gets but he’s the intro into actual hip hop for country folk 😂they always saying “i never liked hip hop until now”
@WonderofU952 ай бұрын
@@s7nseerThey don't actually like hip hop they just agree with and like the things he says in his songs
@Sarkane12562 ай бұрын
5:21 “logic is the best storyteller out of the group” while donald glover is right there is heinous behavior
@Fujiisamaa2 ай бұрын
he is 100% the best storyteller on this list, Donald Glover can tell a story as we saw on his first two albums but from Young, Broke & Infamous to The Incredible True Story is the most underrated run of Hip-Hop music I've ever seen and it's all because of how fast the quality of his next projects dwindled. Logic literally told a story of space exploration and didn't make it seem cringe.
@5jetsy2 ай бұрын
@@FujiisamaaThat's a really good point. When it comes to music as a whole logic is a much better story teller. Listening to logic albums often feels like you're listening to a movie. His albums have a lot of lore while Donald Glover leans a lot on visuals aspects to tell the story. Because the Internet is still amazing and hasn't been replicated to this day thou.
@Sarkane12562 ай бұрын
@@Fujiisamaa buddy logic couldn’t write a film script, write a separate short film, a series of music videos, and have it all coincide with one album. mf just made an entire tv show and an album for the soundtrack. what are you talking about?
@Sarkane12562 ай бұрын
@@5jetsy logic’s storytelling cant hold a candle to tyler, the creators storytelling, hes just copying what people do and twisting it. yall are trying to give a child a seat at the adult table
@Fujiisamaa2 ай бұрын
@@Sarkane1256 whatever you say dawg. We are talking about storytelling within MUSIC. Yes, Tyler is obviously way more talented overall then Logic, Tyler is one of my favorite artists ever. But in terms of actual storytelling in music, Logic is better. He literally told his whole life story in real time in his Young Sinatra mixtapes. Then proceeded to lay out all his demons on Under Pressure then told a story of a literal war and space exploration on his next album. Have you ever even read into the lyrics on The Incredible True Story??? He literally tried making it a movie and wrote a script for it but felt like no one would like it and never released it even tho Seth McFarland offered 400k for the script.
@egg-ts4fo2 ай бұрын
Tbf after a tiny bit lil dicky just accepted he was a meme rapper and didnt try to act like he was a legit rapper he just got some success and turned that into a tv career
@stellviahohenheim2 ай бұрын
Once a j is always a j. It's like being connected but to the entertainment racket
@michaelhaydenbell2 ай бұрын
@stellviahohenheim ?????? Bro just be normal
@HempBraum2 ай бұрын
tv was always the end game he was just exploiting rap
@xenolithic96912 ай бұрын
You know how to trigger a guy by immediately putting Budden in the video. Edit: With Logic, you got 10+ years of proof that he loves/respects the game, and is just genuinely a guy that you end up eventually rooting for. If he did not have that behind him, you would likely have the biggest culture vulture in existence right there.
@stellviahohenheim2 ай бұрын
Fun fact cultures are meant to be spread around the world, All cultures are meant to be shared. Except black culture
@marchdarkenotp33462 ай бұрын
@@stellviahohenheim interesting to think about!
@Mrmehaaw2 ай бұрын
@@stellviahohenheim Culture vultures dont share the culture, they step in from outside and exploit it for their own capital gain. In this context, the rappers are often disingenuous and unremarkable, theyre only as succesful as they are because they are white. It doesnt have to be with evil intentions and may seem harmless at first sight so I can understand your pov but it goes deeper than you think
@Will-bn9km2 ай бұрын
@@stellviahohenheimdepends on how you do it, a lot of people chime in on black culture and don’t have the faintest clue the implications of what they’re saying sometimes. It goes for any culture but because black culture is responsible for a lot of the “cool” in modern mainstream society it can be a problem coz people overstep
@xenolithic96912 ай бұрын
@@stellviahohenheim I can't tell if this is a troll or not.
@James-po692 ай бұрын
Its cringe how gen z calls every rapper corny while they listen to playboi carti and lil Uzi vert
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit2 ай бұрын
Gen Z will base a rappers entire career on half a dozen to a dozen of their worst songs Em, Hopsin, Logic, Joyner are all good rappers but made several songs each that hurt their career
@TwistedLullabies2 ай бұрын
Cringe Z
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Every generation does similar things. My father hates everything after pac and biggie
@NiteOwl20002 ай бұрын
As someone born in 2000 I feel so called out rn 😂
@void_goldie98032 ай бұрын
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit every generation does that to either the previous or the next
@MOODMIKE2 ай бұрын
The drake profile rolling through the graph caught me in my lungs fr🤣
@bronxkies2 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment. That has me CRYING lol!
@bobjohn99482 ай бұрын
“I believe cornes is a spectrum” 😂😂🤣 1:20
@sir-d1j2 ай бұрын
bro said "corniness is on a spectrum" and i can't stop thinking about it
@Bryan-px3kr2 ай бұрын
Not a fan of Joyner Lucas but to be thrown with Dax and Tom Mcdonald is the craziest disrespect I've heard all year
@raccoonman46912 ай бұрын
I honestly don't get the Joyner hate. ADHD was a pretty great album. He's a good rapper and his story telling in songs is pretty good too. I need someone to explain the corniness cuz I just don't get it
@astr0sauce2 ай бұрын
@@raccoonman4691 he just annoying fr
@iamcemani2 ай бұрын
He fasho corny.. he’s a good rapper though but he’s corny for randomly beefing with ppl and taking himself too seriously
@Stoomsies2 ай бұрын
Yes! Was thinking the same thing! In my opinion, skill-wise, he's about the same if not better than Logic and I really like both of their stuff honestly.
@Stoomsies2 ай бұрын
@@iamcemani solid explanation...that actually makes sense. He's definitely not a "Will Smith corny" whatsoever, but I do see what you mean by him taking himself too seriously
@skateboardinguitaris2 ай бұрын
Recency bias or not, Drake 1000% deserve to be on this list
@expectafight2 ай бұрын
I think most people cant square the circle about a rapper not looking like traditional masculine architypes and get the corny labels thrown on them. And while that's a quick and dirty assessment, that's the point. I think that's exactly what's happening in general and people have to do so damn much to overcome it.
@undertakerblaise2562 ай бұрын
Exactly
@midnightmower692 ай бұрын
I love logic too and the logic hate always been another level imo, but some of it is def warranted haha. You put it perfectly
@KimNguyen-mr2bu2 ай бұрын
Donald Glover is corny? The creator of Atlanta is corny?!
@YvonneJerCocktailsJer2 ай бұрын
Haha 😂 childish is such a poser!
@coburnboeder23202 ай бұрын
Always has been
@nahhhbruhhh2 ай бұрын
@@coburnboeder2320😂 hilarious response
@JesseWhiteman1172 ай бұрын
Tbh a lot of actors who transitioned to music initially had a corny phase. Look at Mark Walberg music career. His idea was what he thought a good artist would sound like in that era. Donald quickly adapted to the space he was in and quickly made it his own. I stand on that.
@daystyr2 ай бұрын
Saying Donald Glover is corny is a definition of failing to understand the uniqueness in art.. It like says a penguin is Corney because it is a bird that lays eggs but doesn't fly ... Your comment izz
@SeleniumOfficial2 ай бұрын
“Corniness is a spectrum” fucking sent me 💀
@dotdotdot74742 ай бұрын
Logic is the Jayson Tatum of Rap
@latenight75282 ай бұрын
Broo I love that you have a family and still work while doing this. Much respect 👊
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
I appreciate that
@HeftyGames2 ай бұрын
Damn is logic really that bad to some people? I think his music and Childish Gambino music is alright ngl
@ajy03012 ай бұрын
Fr fr
@determinedmind16092 ай бұрын
Mfs call anything that they don’t like corny smh. Its so stupid
@Sydoku2 ай бұрын
I feel like glover represents himself more honestly which saves him from over the top corniness
@ayceeonethirty61412 ай бұрын
Thank you. I constantly get "oh so you're like Tom Macdonald" when people learn about my music and it drives me up the wall. Glad to see your reaction to (i'm so sorry you did this to yourself) hearing albums of his was the correct one. In my experience when people say "I don't really like hip hop but" whoever they insert is usually cringe af, and alot of times have one thing in common with the person saying it to me that nobody really wanna point out but we all know what it is.
@DavidJackTumusiime2 ай бұрын
That clip about YNB Nahmir had me cackling. Mad excellent editing.
@Ivo.332 ай бұрын
Bro honestly speaking, who listens to Tom McDonald?
@TheSkyrimps32 ай бұрын
Suburban white people who don't really listen to rap.
@stereo-soulsoundsystem50702 ай бұрын
Ben Shapiro and other people who don't like rap/hip-hop made by black people. Or anything related to the black experience. Also boomers...So many boomers
@jayaplin19972 ай бұрын
Racists
@johnmkwii93932 ай бұрын
im conservative and i cant stand him, so idk who
@xenolithic96912 ай бұрын
white people who say that they "don't see color"
@RuslanKD2 ай бұрын
Love you mentioning hanging with your son and family instead of making more videos. Keep going brother.
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the support. Will do!
@Dartlin2 ай бұрын
Lmao corniness is a spectrum 😂
@ItsGrimProductionsАй бұрын
I didn’t even look at the sub count I just assumed you had a mil or so, keep grinding bro you got a lot of potential this KZbin algorithm just ain’t it sometimes
@_FLWRSАй бұрын
I appreciate that. Will do!💪🏾
@Scooby-king2 ай бұрын
Distance makes the heart grow fonder! I’m always excited and surprised by the vids.. ❤
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Love that. Thank you for watching and comin back!
@Supreme___4082 ай бұрын
I don’t care what anyone thinks, after that 1-800 song Logic has my respect.
@michaelhaydenbell2 ай бұрын
"Who can relate to wanting to off themselves--WHOO!!!" Yes very tasteful and sensitive toward suicidal people.
@Supreme___4082 ай бұрын
@@michaelhaydenbell I don’t know why you bother wasting your time commenting, I don’t care what a troll thinks lol good day now 🤡
@swiftcartier69702 ай бұрын
@@michaelhaydenbell literal smooth brain take
@Supreme___4082 ай бұрын
@@michaelhaydenbell idk why you wasted your time commenting, don’t care what a troll has to say lol 🤡
@jacobmendoza91042 ай бұрын
@@michaelhaydenbell he also said "1800 then i kill the pussy, who can relate!" so take that how you will
@alexisevilla33902 ай бұрын
First times of seeing this channel and i can honestly say that with this level and content and analysis you could probably achieve a situation where you could get paid by doing what youre passionate about, while at the same time being able to spend more time with your family. Keep pushing, all of the work will pay off☀️😁
@burnafone27022 ай бұрын
you’re so right about logic’s unoriginality. i love the title track on under pressure but its structure is essentially samidot just copy pasted and it always bothers me.
@deanoor93912 ай бұрын
People love to talk shit about logic all because of the Everybody album. That man can be corny all he wants but he's still dropping incredible albums unlike many artists on a mainstream label but i digress. He got made into a laughing stock all due to the fact that he told people he was biracial on 1 album and everyone called it corny....alot of people on the internet are weird.. let that man live his life in peace.
@colekamerick2 ай бұрын
FLWRS Is a crazy underrated KZbinr! Always enjoy it when you drop!
@1000howlsentertainment2 ай бұрын
I love that you put your family first pop Big ups 💪🏻
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
I appreciate you!
@dogsandyoga17432 ай бұрын
You won me over. I'm only vaguely familiar with most of these artist (I'm a very old head) but your breakdowns just, seem like they make valid points 😂 Or at least that you know what you're talking about
@Omnitual2 ай бұрын
Now I'm wondering what spectrum of corny I'm at 😅
@darii35232 ай бұрын
Woahhh I come back to your channel and WOAH WOW you’ve grown SOOOO MUCHHH!! I’m so proud of you and you deserve so much more
@asamwapersonal2 ай бұрын
One thing I have relalised is every rapper has an element of corniness to them its just that some rappers are good at hiding it , personally I came to realise this after J-Cole apologized , rapping about being the greatest and making multiple songs about how confident you are for years to come apologize and take down a diss track is the corniest thing i have seen this year
@smokeybowls1872 ай бұрын
That wasn't corny. That was the smartest, most genuine thing he could do. He knew he made the wrong move and any respectable man would apologize for stepping like that, especially against someone he has so much love for. He felt pressured by everyone to prove something and realized after that the corniest thing was him releasing the diss in the first place. He realized he didn't have anything to prove and that he's easily in the conversation for modern GOAT status. He also realized that he didn't want that smoke. That's not corny, that's just sensible.
@smokeybowls1872 ай бұрын
Moving with what keeps your soul at ease is never corny. You could tell he was genuinely bothered by what he did and as a man, he had to own that & make right by it. Lowering his head & humbly apologizing was a show of his true character.
@undertakerblaise2562 ай бұрын
Aye your opinion, I guess it’s cuz you’re young but I do understand it. But after seeing the aftermath, it was best for him not to enter a fight that has nothing to do with him. Especially knowing there was no friendly competition between Drake and K.Dot. Most fans don’t see it through that lens. These the same fans who cheer trash artists while shiii on good ones because of popularity. Unfortunately It is what it is
@asamwapersonal2 ай бұрын
@@undertakerblaise256 J- cole could have approached the battle in a very wise and different way , there's always a way e.g J-Cole is the wise , mature older brother he could have addressed K-Dots bitterness and lack of maturity something even K-Dot admitted to in Mr Morale, but J-Cole decided to call Kendricks Discography mid , I don't think there's anything wrong with him backing out I think the way he backed out was the corniest thing I have ever seen and admit it left a stain on his image as one of the greatest rappers
@undertakerblaise2562 ай бұрын
@@asamwapersonal I had said this before because someone used this as a counter argument. Even though I do respect it, let’s be honest. Hip-Hop when it comes to beef only truly works from animosity and negativity. I’ve never heard of a friendly fade, and even then no one would take it serious no matter how good the artists were. Any rap beef that is etched in your brain have all thrived from personal beef.
@telaylawalker59122 ай бұрын
Logic is a good person fr🔥
@midnight.amethyst2 ай бұрын
Spending time with your family roseman...life is short & kids grow FAST! Your core watchers will be here❤
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
So true. I appreciate you
@Sasukeluvzme132 ай бұрын
I wish you would’ve said why you don’t like Lil Dicky! I’m tryna compare notes!😭🤣 Btw love an involved father! I’ll be here when you get back. 😌
@avgriffin2 ай бұрын
you can have my opinion lol. He is skilled at freestyle I'll say to be fair. My issue is we seen many great white rappers the gimmick is played out and he makes it his whole thing. WOAH WOW IM A RAPPER WHITE GUY ISNT THAT WACKY? we dont care make good music man. He also said he saw rap as a stepping stone to get to acting/comedy and that rubbed me wrong. just my view
@Jane-oz7pp2 ай бұрын
@@avgriffin in a world where we have already had eminem and, more importantly, Aesop Rock, white rappers should really just be normalised already.
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
I appreciate you sticking around. Partly this ☝🏾 and another reason😌 but I’m committed to the bit now
@Sasukeluvzme132 ай бұрын
I’m not normalizing mediocrity. Em and dicky have their skin color in common and not their skill level.
@avgriffin2 ай бұрын
@@Jane-oz7pp for sure! respect for mentioning Aesop Rock. I love E-Dubble too RIP
@rappersorbee2 ай бұрын
I don't understand why you said Joyner Lucas is in any way adjacent to Tom McDonald and Dax, because I feel like those two are uniquely horrible out of anybody in this list, they are pure mockery of anything they engage in, they have no passion for the music they make, and both are basically just grifters, maybe their fan bases overlap in some way but as far as the artist I don't think Joyner deserves that comparison, he's corny but he can actually rap, and he doesnt make music to grift, I guess they are on similar levels of corniness but overall those 2 cant really be related to anyone else on this list, they are uniquely bad and gross in what they do
@smokeybowls1872 ай бұрын
Arguably, Tom & Dax are also skilled lyricists. Tom had a brief window where he was less corny & more real, before he got on the grift train. Dax has just always moved weird, rapped about being a janitor too much, faked some of his "one take" videos, backstabbed & estranged his fellow KZbin rappers, got an ego, got punked by Tory, & scammed other artists or refused to promote joint ventures. Joyner, I think, gets the corny label because he recycles his subject matter constantly & fell into that same trap of remixing popular beats/trashing on the artists who originally made them. He was at the tip of the anti-mumble rap spear. So yeah, that kinda got corny too. I like him, don't get me wrong. None of this is hate. But I guess he's just a little too predictable to really be fully invested in like other artists with broad ranges. You want to like him because he's also a skilled lyricist, but the things that make him corny are just so damn cringy. Same with Dax & Tom. You know all 3 of these artists could be so much greater if they focused on really putting out true musical *art* instead of trying to rappity rap & moving like cornballs.
@rappersorbee2 ай бұрын
@@smokeybowls187 nah that's the thing I don't really like Joyner much either, he made a lot of gimmick songs about ideas that he didn't always display properly, and lacked substance, I'm just saying that Joyners type of corny is more closer to Logics type of corny, artists with a genuine intention to say something but don't really have that much to actually say, I'm saying Tom and Dax are actors, they are not artists and they are not rappers, they don't care about the art form, they make things in bad faith to appeal to a very specific audience who hates rap and on the low are literally political pundits, their technical skills are not impressive enough to count as not half bad, they rap like someone who couldn't and watched KZbin tutorials on it for some time, maybe there's something I'm missing and I'm out the loop on Joyner but what I'm saying is I hate most of his shit, and yet he is not at all adjacent to Dax and Tom, just a different category entirely and I assumed this seemed more obvious to people, logic and Joyner are corny, Dax and Tom are disingenuous grifters that were so bad at rapping they had to find an entire audience of people who literally hate rap, maybe joyner shares some of that audience which makes sense cause his shit is corny but Dax and Tom deliberately created that echo chamber
@michaelrider90672 ай бұрын
Lmao! I stopped the vid and was trying to listen for an ice cream truck outside before i realized you had a little jingle in the background. 😂
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
My bad 🤣
@mesadrums3752 ай бұрын
When people try so hard to be authentic that it goes all the way back around to being inauthentic.
@daweed91312 ай бұрын
Take ya time homie, gotta take care of family
@toopienator2 ай бұрын
moving drake around at the end got me lmfaooooo
@ulovit12 ай бұрын
Liked and subbed, now doing my duty for the algorithm. While this is my first stroll through, I stayed til the end bc I do like it here. Bonus points for incorporating the chart to facilitate a nuanced conversion. 😂 I hope it becomes a trend.
@aaaajoestar31132 ай бұрын
Bro wants to be a good dad and thought we'd be upset 🙌 w father
@Dunmunll2 ай бұрын
Nah him using the same drum sample from Sing About Me is insane
@WeirdoCantRap2 ай бұрын
I’m fucking cooked, I’m so cooked
@jettysfuneral2 ай бұрын
joe budden looks like the villain mf from cloudy with a chance of meatballs 2
@JulianSellarss2 ай бұрын
its funny seeing others still use logics old photos, mans is tatted everywhere now lmaoo good video bro, subbed!
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub bro!
@unums2 ай бұрын
Spend time with your family and son, brother. This is, literally, the most important time for him. A baby, and child, are a sponge-these will be the times he will remember forever and become foundational to his person and being. Take care of business, brother! It makes me smile either way, a New Video, and knowing you’re doing right by yourself and being a good Father!😌
@Sir_glizzius2 ай бұрын
Drake isn't corny he's a snake and a culture vulture who could make waves in rap and up start careers but does the inverse.
@HelpMeHelpMePlease2 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@smokeybowls1872 ай бұрын
He is corny. Using so many accents & styles of hip-hop from which you have no background is top tier corny.
@Sir_glizzius2 ай бұрын
@smokeybowls187 nothing is wrong with trying different sounds but biting off with no clear homage or reference or respect to that craft is culture vulture behavior I equate drake to post Malone
@smokeybowls1872 ай бұрын
@@Sir_glizzius That's not trying different sounds. That's definitely culture vulture activities and culture vulture & corny are mutually exclusive. I would argue, however, that Post isn't a culture vulture. He grew up with the sounds of Texas rap. Dirty South/CnS/bounce/crunk. So he grew up steeped in the culture. But, on the other side of that, he's also maintained (and if you listen to his music, it's readily apparent) that he's not a rapper. He came into music just trying stuff out & happened to blow up off something sorta like rap because that's what he was releasing at the time. But even when he "rapped", it was always more singing than rapping. This goes back again to the perspective he's always maintained that he's not a rapper. To his core, he's a singer. But to call him a culture vulture is to both say that he has no love for the culture that he grew up with & to say he's taken but never given back. Almost any song he's featured on has been ironically one of the biggest, if not the biggest hit that artist has ever had. And the artists he's picked to feature for weren't picked to benefit him. He did it for the love of those people, their art, & the overall greater art of hip-hop. People like 21 Savage or Swae who were at lulls or low points in their careers. The man gave 8 years during which, from the beginning & throughout, he reminded everyone that he wasn't a rapper. He just happened to make some tracks that were more rap like. He told everyone from the very start he wanted to be a country or folk star by 30 and here we are. The man had a plan to just make music and hopefully make it doing that. Now he has. Nobody can say he didn't put in enough hours to retire from the culture a veteran. Let the man do what really makes him feel good in his soul, even if it's the terrible genre that is modern country.
@Sir_glizzius2 ай бұрын
@smokeybowls187 I said equate. I get your point of view I never fully thought post was a culture vulture but he has said and done interviews where he has actively gone against the notion of hip hop and rap. Although post has good intentions when you fully transition from white Iverson to doing country music and fully changing your persona do you think that's not being dishonest about your image I feel as if your ignoring the reason he blew up. But drake himself uses these other styles for his benefit only and doesn't really allow the other in that genre to flourish and then leaves so in his case he is a culture vulture.
@TranquilAshes2 ай бұрын
Logic is talking about real shit and not your basic self hate, guns, sex and money bars.
@kingkev63382 ай бұрын
Yooo everytime I need a good laugh I watch Joe roasting Logic clips😂😂😂😂
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Joe will never let up
@yetispaghetti57542 ай бұрын
Hopsin may be corny but has some good tracks. Ill Mind 6, Ill mind 9, and Alone with Me are honestly not bad. Hotel in Sydney I like but I could understand it being problematic to some, and Origin Story gives me some hope Hopsin can redeem himself.
@SlopTopp2 ай бұрын
instant sub for good video and for being good dad. keep killing it.
@47oasis2 ай бұрын
During the Joyner x Logic beef one of my friends said about Logic: "Saying a bunch of nothing really fast doesn't mean good rapping.". Every time I've read lyrics of his after that he always came off as corny and wack to me. Every time Ive been recommended a Logic song it never scratched that itch. Great video though dog, its admirable watching people look after they family. Keep it up.
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
I appreciate that. Thanks for watchin
@SpaceGhostMars942 ай бұрын
I remember a couple of people were questioning Logic being corny on that poll. 😂
@xamp_exclammarkАй бұрын
So has anyone here heard Lil B disstrack on Joe Budden lol
@kalaric.71082 ай бұрын
As a mom work life balance matters, good video.
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Absolutely, thanks for watchin
@DrelinJasso2 ай бұрын
I love your vids man always watching them
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
I appreciate you
@imbeast902 ай бұрын
Ight but that new logic album is hard asab
@tylerphrommany6372Ай бұрын
Nah you wanting to hangout with your family is corny as hell
@thejoking.madmenАй бұрын
Amen. 🫡
@AnAbsurdExistence2 ай бұрын
good video
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@bigriikmusic2 ай бұрын
Father to father. Creator to creator. Bro it never gets easier with kids and trying to do what you love
@BlackChildDiaries2 ай бұрын
comparing under pressure to good kid is crazy. lowkey a reach.
@MrFancyFresh2 ай бұрын
I mean my dad did the same thing so its not that far of a reach
@TremelJackson2 ай бұрын
Everyone knows Yelawolf is the best white rapper that was ever signed to Shady Records
@rlevy132 ай бұрын
Good shit bro. Had no idea Logic did that shit. I liked that album, but you made some crazy valid points.
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Man we were playin GKMC every day when it came out. Great memories
@thatguymatt58162 ай бұрын
It’s a shame because logic is SUCH a good rapper. He has some albums, like no pressure, that are 10’s
@p-street17462 ай бұрын
This man isn’t posting daily because of HIS SON?!?! Unsubscribed 😂😂😂 nah bruh anyone that actually feels that way is insane. Take ya time on ya videos family, there’s plenty KZbin to go around and you make interesting videos. Keep up the good work. I could see you hitting that 1m subscribers in a couple years.
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. We gonna get there one day
@TheKidStunna2 ай бұрын
Oh Thank God, I thought my ass was gonna hafta hide my love for Logic's music frm yo ass😂 great vid again, congrats on 25K❤
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Na logic cool lol. Thanks bro!
@wweandbandrules2 ай бұрын
Congrats on your son. Take your time , keep pushing P
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
I appreciate that bro
@kaiido4gz792 ай бұрын
Been listening to Dax since his first Eminem remix, he hard asf to me and I stand on it 💯🔥
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with that
@MonsterMendez2 ай бұрын
We will not tolerate logic slander‼️
@timmallenn83822 ай бұрын
We always appreciate your time and videos
@theRealiK2 ай бұрын
Initially I had damn near a small paragraph ready to rebuttal/agree over Logic being corny, bc that was the thumbnail I saw, and I watched 17 seconds of the video. Then I reconsidered, stopped typing, watched the whole video and im a glad I did. Even if these were just your opinions, they were very unbiased and actually some research behind the thoughts on each Artist. I agree on most of them but the take on Joyner and Childish Gambino crazy. Again I know they're your opinions so I'm just talking in general. I ain no super super fan of both but I listen to some of they music and Joyner Lucas can make bangers, he has, and the topics he speak on sometimes can be very political or racially motivated but I don't think that make him too corny. I get why people would say so but nah I don't see it. People calling Childish Gambino on the other hand is diabolical. He has his own sound and style and can actually write and rap. His concepts on some of his past projects were mysterious and abstract and I guess to some people that made him corny. Never understood that but with today's society, the appreciation and art of hip-hop had drastically declined and most of the time Artists who actually craft their sound and care about their work are called boring or "trying too hard" or too different bc it's not the now [simplistic trap or melodic beats, with punch-ins]. But overall dope video frfr. Nice to see creators talk about these topics. And I hope all is well in your endeavors and life with your family. 💪🖤
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your opinion bro. I understand everyone got a different perspective. In retrospect I may have been a bit harsh on Joyner by putting him in the Dax and Tom camp. Thanks for watchin and commenting🙏🏾
@Inayit162 ай бұрын
Logic is a great rapper dont disrespect him like that
@bremertoncitizen46672 ай бұрын
Ill mind of hopsin 5 is a classic til this day. U said logic is the best rapper out of everryone in this video, yall cant honestly tell me that Hopsin wouldnt wash logic over wax
@egg-ts4fo2 ай бұрын
7:40 atleast he keeps his touching people to the music cant say the same for diddy or Drake
@robertvilikai67622 ай бұрын
Joe mad he wish he had that fan base when he was rapping had to be a pod cast presenter
@TortillaGrounds082 ай бұрын
Listen to Honestly by Lil Dicky. And don't watch the music video. Listen to the actual audio because it has the full song.
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
If it’s bad I’ll never let you live it down
@JND123Z2 ай бұрын
keep this shit up you got an amazing personality and voice 👍
@_FLWRS2 ай бұрын
Thank you🙏🏾
@ViewtifulJae2 ай бұрын
Childish Gambino isn’t corny in any negative way lol
@alexclay61872 ай бұрын
Logic is the type of mixed person I strive everyday to not be like😅
@SirrSpeed2 ай бұрын
bro eminem is more black then you
@InJuRiOuSbEaTs952 ай бұрын
Man being a Bino fan in 09 was rough. 😂😂
@blakelarsen86152 ай бұрын
glad your back bro
@oj3972 ай бұрын
I mean I haven’t liked s logic album in a while, but this new one? This Ultra 85? Man Oh Man this shit gas asf 🔥. Up there with the new ScHoolBoy Q, Lucki, n Chief Keef projects personally.
@ezekielv24792 ай бұрын
brothers hate on Logic bc he’s living his best life 😂
@iam_stxrrz2 ай бұрын
Dax is a white man in black skin 😆
@devontesview2 ай бұрын
Bro, I respect the placement but the Joyner slander by grouping him with Tom is wild😂