How CORRUPT is Ukraine? | Vodka Vodkast 052

[@posysdogovych2065]

I first started living in Ukraine in 2002. While I never had to pay a bribe, whenever I was in Kyiv I could count on being stopped by the police, especially in the metro. It'd get stopped a lot at the Mukachevo train station as well it's obvious that I'm a foreigner. Those were the days before the visa-free regime, so foreigners in Ukraine were rare, even in Kyiv(!). However, I lived in Lviv from late 2011 until 2018 and not once was I ever stopped by the police. I think that Euro 2012 played somewhat of a role. The police were specifically told not to give tourists any trouble. The locals were still fair game, unfortunately.

[@mikeses4392]

Hey Conor, I really enjoy your videos! Thank you...

[@juliengrix7728]

Family came to visit me in Kyiv. Rented a car and drove to Lviv. Spent 5 times more on bribes than I did on the car plus petrol.

[@Manuel-gu9ls]

Corruption breeds everywhere no different in Philippines 🇵🇭 regardless either you find a woman, a man, a place of work or to retire

[@davewarrillow7415]

I was stopped at a police check point just outside of Kharkov, I was driving an English car and was asked first if I had weapons or drugs in the car and the vehicle was searched. When he could not find anything he said I had been drinking, took me to his office breathalysed me, and told me I was facing a 5000 dollar fine and 5 year driving ban or if I paid 500 dollars there and then he would let me go. I had my Ukrainian wife with me. He got 100 dollars as we told him that is all we had on us.

[@bambaam7186]

thanks for sharing that educational "cultural" experience

[@vkt2805]

When exactly was it?

[@davewarrillow7415]

@@vkt2805 Beginning of August last year.

[@vkt2805]

@@davewarrillow7415 That's why Poroshenko is no longer a president, because he put people in charge like Avakov(Minister of Police) where he kind of reformed police department, but in reality its only on paper, because there are countless cases like yours of corruption, and not just for foreigners but especially for locals. Truth be told - Avakov is still in charge, he is basically the real President of Ukraine, but no one openly talks about it.

[@vkt2805]

That's why we need people like Saakashvili to be either Prime Minister or better of - the President of Ukraine

[@steffanhoffmann8937]

Hi Conor I think Kyiv improved around 2017 because poroshenko got rid of the "old guard" and replaced them with new uniformed young USA trained police. Even young guys on bicycles in the centre. I found them helpful and friendly. Particularly Sasha on his bike and Julia in the Toyota Prius at the end of kreschatick. No money involved at all. Poroshenko paid them a good wage. Nothing but praise from them from me. When I moved to Odessa a lil different however. They were a little "dodgy". But moving out to Kostandi FONTAN I found they are okay. Speak as you (we) find huh? Good luck your HONOUR......Hehehe:)

[@vatraxosapoelistas1629]

never stopped me in odessa never!ok we are friends with cheaf police but never before) in kiev all the policeman in metro or center know me very goot since i go from 1990 always stoppd me for fee,pizza,cigarets but i like beceuse many times they save me from trables many times i get closet by gangs,robers,narkomans and always a policeman save me and tell me go home many policeman invite me in there house and became closed friends! many of them ask me to have the honor to be best men in there weding or give name to there baby!

[@steffanhoffmann8937]

Cheers Conor

[@Ninpo1]

It looks "good" for Poroshenko now involved with Joe Bidens 1,8 billion dollar scame with Kolomoisky ;) But of course they are on a much higher corruption level.

[@vatraxosapoelistas1629]

hi steffan,in odessa you remember when they replace the police with the new police in black. before 3 days mr tryxanov the mer of odessa said that some roads and streets that change names from the ukranian governent will replace like before withe the soviet names thet they have before poroshenko.last month in odessa many voices off syport tryxanov and odessa to became intempented from ukraine like donpa. from2014 in odessa like donpas is cepartist city that locals dont like the ukranian policy that kill citisens off odessa and donpas.yesterday the police close an office that help fanisial cepartist movmens in donpas and odessa.

[@steffanhoffmann8937]

@@vatraxosapoelistas1629 thx 👍 for the info.

[@Dinom-tt5wz]

Have not had any corruption problems in Ukraine. But my wife (from Kiev) said trying to open a business there would be difficult due to bribes that need to be paid to stay in business. I visited Moscow in 2005 for New Year and my visit papers through the hotel validation (registration) expired one day b4 my checkout... official offices were closed 2 weeks for Holidays... the concierge said “this is very serious violation “... when I said I would pay for one more night’s stay in cash... the night that would extend my papers but I would not actually USE the room... she became very happy and agreed to stamp my documents. I have little doubt she pocketed the cash as soon as I left the front desk !

[@shadmanabdulkalamkalam2261]

Good to watching

[@vanfja]

The healthcare problem is something I have heard before. Glad to hear the tourist police problem is better, I hope it doesn’t revert.

[@kristobozhinov_]

First comment. Бръх... I never expected a video like this.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jerryhendrix1859]

You. Talk to fast to understand what your saying exactly slow down talking so fast

[@-educeretutoring9774]

Interesting

[@vegashwk4158]

I was in Ukraine in the early 2000s back then the place you stayed at was supposed to register your passport. When I was leaving the Kiev airport the airport cops said the place I stayed at didn’t register my passport. I was forced to pay a bribe under threat of jail. I emptied my pockets luckily I only had $50.00,

[@songoflovemetalofficial]

I don t think Ukraine is more corrupt than France I lived in France 10 years and almost everybody there is a liar and a robber Ukraine is laid back I am a ex hippy and I fit very well with ukrainian who are very laid back. They Don t need a bunch a papers or legal stuff to do things it is very refreshing

[@ToquzOghuzKhaganatekhan]

I feel very stressful around them sometimes looool

[@ToquzOghuzKhaganatekhan]

Irish counselor always worldwide best

[@TRISPIT]

Is there corruption in a Ukrainian woman to get a visa to travel to USA? Thank you for videos.

[@ConorClyneTsarExperience]

I doubt it

[@pbutter237]

After watching this I am amazed that you, as a foreigner speaking English in a park to an expensive camera, haven't been robbed on site! You can't trust the local population nor the police.

[@ConorClyneTsarExperience]

Exactly, I've never had an issue with my camera and its safety.

[@kev4ev]

pbutter237, your vision of Ukraine is so damn pattern

[@anikadelabajo759]

Hey, that's kinda offensive! Of course, Ukraine is not the safest place in the world but it's highly unlikely somebody would steal his camera in the middle of the downtown during the daytime. As a local, I can say that the main rule is to be careful with your belongings in crowded places as there're pitty people who could steal your wallet or phone. But, honestly, that can happen anywhere in the world. And also you should be careful at night in specific neighborhoods which is also common all around the world. All the other times you're almost completely safe.

[@ToquzOghuzKhaganatekhan]

I wont spend money on them again .... cuz dont feel good

[@ToquzOghuzKhaganatekhan]

I love to meet polite honest Европеский пареин

[@danshevchuk3335]

I wouldn't agree on the healthcare speculations :) There's a bunch of private hospitals that specialize on all kinds of day-to-day healthcare and the service is usually on point. That's going to be a bit pricier than your usual "free" hospital but you won't have to even consider the corruption issues or anything like that. In fact, I am living in Sweden at the moment, temporarily, and the healthcare here is complete nonesense compared to what I've experienced in Ukraine. Furthermore, the "free" healthcare here is more expensive than private healthcare in Ukraine and the level of service you get in public european hospitals is just outrageously dissatisfying. So if you have any sort of reliable income, you will get treated well... unless you need a heart transplant :D in that case I'd fly to Israel or the US. Keep it up with the great content, love your channel mate :D

[@giuliom3564]

A lot of idiot things written by you. In Sweden (admitting the actual nonsense you said that "free" healthcare is more expensive than private ukrainian healthcare) the wages are 5 times higher than in Ukraine. In Europe there are the best health systems in the world. If you are rich you go beyond the system for many issues you can afford every treatment in the best clinic. In USA a heart transplant without insurances is one milion dollar, while in Most developed countries is "free". Basically what to wrote is total nonsense, crappy and highly misleading.

[@pbutter237]

In these situations language skills play a large part in determining the outcome. I was stopped once while in Belarus in 1997 at the end of my visit in Brest/Brzesc. I was on an open square just looking around when one Police/Militia man as they were/are called asked me what I was doing. I told him in Polish that I was from Poland pointing in that direction since I didn't understand everything he was saying. Luckily, he just let me go. I heard then that they could ask for a passport and payment. Most of the militia were former soldiers and not modern police. The other time I was stopped was in Poland! Poland is usually known as a rule of law country. I admit that I took a tram in Warsaw without a valid ticket. Sometimes they were just difficult to get! The tram inspectors who are plain clothed asked me for my ticket. I played dumb speaking only English and pretending that I didn't know what they wanted! I hoped to get off easily. They wanted to take me to the local Police station. I dumbly asked what did I do? Once they realized that I was a foreigner, they decided between them that I could pay them about $30 to forget about it! I bet I bought them both a nice dinner and drinks that day!

[@ConorClyneTsarExperience]

Interesting story ... Belarus must have been very different in 1997 to today.

[@falxus9962]

Conor!We wait you in Roumania!

[@Kasphs95]

250 a hour? It pays well. :D

[@michaelanderson8042]

I'm wondering how safe I would feel in the Ukraine. I have the mindset that if someone is trying to take advantage of me ( Police especially ), they should be lucky to walk away. I'll have a baggie to put their teeth in. :)

[@LonskiBig]

....I thought I would run into corruption in the Czech Republic because all I could remember was the Soviet occupation days, but it was just the opposite. The police would step around me EVERY TIME to check papers of people on the trams and subways....as if saying, "You are American....we know...you get a pass"....

[@brianchernecki4844]

As a result of the past lack of rule of law, I have noticed a general feeling in Ukraine that it is OK for any person to gain as long as violence is not involved. The people have enormous locks and steel doors, I was told I don't need to lock my apartment when I am home, but if I leave without locking it, everything will be gone. I have been told to sleep on my valuables if I travel by open berth on train. Even scammer women I have met indicate, "well, you have free choice" implying that as long as force or violence is not involved it is OK to "trick" or deceive to gain. I always imagine I am at a car dealership and every person is trying to get my cash. On the other hand, I have never felt in physical fear in Ukraine, seems to be a very peaceful nation.

[@brianchernecki4844]

@ First of all, the door issue is the same in Ukraine, one door for the front, one door for the section and a third door for the apartment. All I have encountered are solid plate steel, most with double locks. The person who told me I needed to lock only when gone was a Ukrainian national. The train issue is not one I personally experienced, in fact I have never had anything taken in Ukraine, but I was told by a Ukrainian national to sleep on my belongings or they will be taken. Of course I am sure that doesn't happen in every instance. I have known several people who have had their cell phones "picked up" and one Australian friend who lost all of his belongings, I don't know the details. I think if someone stole my belongings and I tried to get them back I might meet resistance, but if "scammed", well, I kind of agree with them, if you're stupid enough to overpay for dinner, then you learned something. That's life in my opinion. Its just that in most places in the west there is some attempt at fairness, not sure that's the rule with women in Ukraine. I suspect Conor would back me up on that...he stays in Odessa and that's the home of the "big game", there's a certain challenge to it. :)

[@brianchernecki4844]

@ Oh, and on the issue of how women would feel, I think they are consistent, if you catch them they just accept it and move on. I think most of them assume you are not telling them the truth at any time....I'm sure there are women who are more direct and honest, but so far I have met nearly none. If you wonder if I have been scammed, and your definition is "tricked into spending money by deceptive means" then the answer is "Hell yes!!!" Do I regret it, no, not really...plenty of women do the same in the west...of course you only encounter such women if you are fishing in the 10+pool....and that's where I like to fish....beats golf all to hell.:)

[@ConorClyneTsarExperience]

Luckily, I was never assaulted. Probably a relevant episode to your discussion: That time I was DRUGGED in UKRAINE - Sevastopol, Crimea ... | Vodka Vodcast 009 Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKWbZ5eIq7CIitk

[@ToquzOghuzKhaganatekhan]

I love to meet all Irishs

[@reginasemenenko148]

And how corrupt was/is Russia. It is very corrupt, but it seems you tend to focus on a lot of negatives with regard to Ukraine. Why?

[@sonrazuma1572]

Why all Ukrainian nationalists bring up Russia when someone critizes the Ukraine? You're an independant country now and learn how to stand up to international critisism too! And yes, the Ukraine is a lot more corrupt than Russia starting from the grass root level up.