How Desmond Miles Became The Reader Vs Meeting Him In Assassins Creed Valhalla Ending

[@MasonJuarez]

Desmond "I look at all these timelines but I can't find the one that saves the earth" Layla "okay but what if you looked at.. more timelines" Desmond "G E N I U S"

[@ultimamage3]

Same energy as Layla "We discovered Pythagoras and he has the staff" Victoria "That's impossible he'd be over 100 years old" Layla "The staff tho" Victoria "G E N I U S"

[@intimestudios]

@@ultimamage3 layla is the tony stark of assassin's creed

[@NerdyNeutron]

In his defense Desmond hasn’t always been the brightest tool...well now I guess he is literally the brightest tool

[@blacktigerpaw1]

These zangy jokes show how bad storytelling has gotten on this series.

[@christophersjoholm4364]

@@blacktigerpaw1 I would agree with this statement if you said it before this game came out, this ending, the whole story is amazing and there is so much lore, story wise this is assassins’s creed through and through

[@tron0150]

It's like writers cares about modern day plot again, I really missed that. Those riddles was my favourite part of this franchise since first game.

[@Achilles053]

Yeah I’ve noticed that. Impressive how in one game they’ve managed to tie the story together in a way they could not do since AC3

[@vinokai]

A hmmm yeah. AC4 and Rogue tie together to seemingly explain all that lead up to AC3. Unity is like a continuation/Consequence of Rogue, but seems more likely to explain that people around the world are banding together and joining the Assassin's. So yeah..most of the AC games after three hadn't tried to bother too much with the modern world..

[@jac0736]

I always thought AC3 was going to be set in the modern day instead of just three missions...but they knew they were going to keep pumping out new games

[@DgardsGaming]

Yup this game in the first time in a while Modern day story in the modern day that actually interest me

[@AlexB4tman]

the dialogue and animations are still junk tho

[@LauraTeAhoWhite]

I'm so glad that they bought back Desmond. Assassins Creed has always been about Desmond Miles.

[@magomedzhaliev9229]

Yes sir 🫵🏻👍👍👍👍👍

[@ZadDan95]

I really tought Desmond died saving the earth for exploding or something but they killed him off like that. So weird

[@tonyleidyiii1652]

@@ZadDan95his body is dead not his spirit

[@RavagerVG]

Juno: It will be an instant, there will be no pain Desmond: *intense pain for 5 seconds*

[@grandassassin4135]

It’s like Desmond just became doctor strange

[@devmanboy8316]

To me Dr Manhattan

[@bluesquid7900]

There 1 million possiblitys and only 1 is works

[@afiffarakhan4992]

Aren't the main character of the "Assassin's Creed" was Odin? heck we're even Loki now. Maybe we'll meet Dr. Strange or Spider-Man somehow in the near future 😂

[@aurumthebrave3427]

Got both Doctor Strange and Dr. Manhattan vibes

[@1LuvMLPFiM]

All we need is Nick Fury to step in on the next game. 😂

[@parthachowdhury5744]

Assassins Creed Valhalla brought something very precious we all missed very dearly, hope. Hope to see Desmond once again.

[@tystuntin]

Looks a lot like Adam and Eve in front of the Tree in the Garden of Eden

[@aver7693]

Makes me think that Clay was talking about Layla. He was going insane in Brotherhood because he kept seeing the calculations himself. So far, two things he's said have come true: "your son" (referring to Elijah in Syndicate), and now "Find Eve. The key. She in Eden. Her DNA." which might be referring to the image of Desmond and Layla in front of Yggdrasil / the calculations. In his scrambled mind he might have confused Desmond and Layla with Adam and Eve because of the scene looking like Genesis with the tree of knowledge, hence him telling Desmond in Brotherhood to "find Eve" instead of "find Layla". Obviously none of this was planned in advance but I'm thankful that Darby has tried to make some sense out of all of it.

[@gianlucaf5215]

It's nice to see that they are trying at least to give a sense to what happened. But it would be even better if they could tell us what was the original plan for that Clay's quote...

[@aver7693]

@@gianlucaf5215 There was no original plan per se. Darby McDevitt admitted on Twitter that Clay had simple seen too many different timelines (via the Isu calculations), and it drove him mad. But then in Syndicate they confirmed his visions with Desmond's son being a thing and now in Valhalla they confirmed the second vision he has (of Eve and her DNA).

[@gianlucaf5215]

@@aver7693 Thanks :)

[@KamusariHR]

Its more like layla finds desmond instead of demsond finds layla just lile how 16 told him

[@CrawfordPrime]

I like to believe The Reader is Desmond, as that device he touches is the same as what Layla touches, kind of and she was transformed into a similar appearance as the Reader. Not to mention how Desmond is referenced in this game more than the other games except maybe Black Flag. Also, the character model looks similar to Desmond and the voice actor sounds the same. Also the way he talks, “eight years ago... in my new life...” implying the Reader is only eight years old, and Desmond “died” eight years ago. I think when Desmond died he was reborn as the Reader. Now fully accustomed to his new life, where time is infinite but doesn’t feel like it. Perhaps the device transfers the consciousness into the Grey, like with Juno, and its here that Desmond lives and can access the Isu’s ability to calculate probability. Perhaps he’s still trying to save the world in death as he did in life, “break the code, break the node.”

[@tylertheguy3160]

I think the reader is Desmond as well. Both of them are indeed voiced b Nolan North. I think being stuck in the grey for so long has shaped him from being kind of thickheaded into this wise, almost omnipotent being. I kind of hope that we get a resolution where Shaun, Rebecca, and William find out that he's still alive in some form.

[@IsmaelCiulla]

I think it was confirmed to be Desmond

[@Tostito422]

Duh he’s Desmond! I thought that was obvious

[@ginge641]

Bro I haven't even played Valhalla and it's the most obvious thing in the fucking world that this is Desmond.

[@junkieboi45]

he became Adam

[@theyincorporated5711]

I love how Desmond fulfilled Juno’s demands from brotherhood right before he killed Lucy, he found Layla and he awakened the 6th sense

[@killfun4995]

Elaborate please im confused with this comment

[@zealberkut7133]

Same

[@blacktigerpaw1]

No, the Sixth Sense Juno was referring to was Eagle Vision. Her demands were, 'The Cross Darkens the Horizon'. Unless you're referring to, 'Only *she* remains'? Because that was left open ended and I doubt the writers ever planned for Odyssey or Layla.

[@isplat927]

@@blacktigerpaw1 The Sixth sense is locked from humans, humans can use Eagle vision so it's not the sixth sense.

[@theyincorporated5711]

@@blacktigerpaw1 “The Cross Darkens the Horizon” is a statement not a demand also the “She” that Juno refers to is a Chekhov’s gun it was introduced early on in the franchise and has been resolved in this game. Lastly seeing how Layla is the only woman we see Desmond meet since AC brotherhood it’s fair to assume that it was referencing Layla

[@parkout95]

this is what subject 16 predicted in ac brother “they key lies in her DNA... find eve”

[@Manoj_Kumar1973]

Wow the thing you mentioned is most important point in assassins creed revelation modern day

[@Manoj_Kumar1973]

and yes its assassins creed revelation not brotherhood because after brotherhood he stucked in animus as subject 16

[@TheLastProtheanJavik]

Tbh they weren't referring to Layla as origins wasn't even on their mind yet. This just them trying to connect the dots to fix their fuck up with Desmond and to somehow bring him back someway in the next games.

[@lNer0xl]

guys i will tell you we will get an assassins creed sooner or later where desmond and layla are returning possibly as adam and eve. maybe we will get a game where both of them relive the story of adam and eve during the isu age.

[@MrRow-gu9oi]

Thats what i was thinking when i saw them together

[@DarthTerrest]

If I remember correctly for assassin's creed II, in the Adam and Eve clip, Adam had Desmond's voice

[@DeeboWRLD121]

@@DarthTerrest oh shit ur right

[@zm7494]

@@DarthTerrest holy fuck

[@timb7800]

So Desmond is Adam and Layla is Eve. The Inu/Early humans used their technology "tree of life" to continue their lives and hopes. The Time in valhalla are illusions but the story plot is real and is actual memories distilled by what Eivor recognizes. When desmond sacrifices himself in 2012 to save the world he became the reader and is reunited with Eve when Layla decides to become the next reader. Desmond still has his Dad and non video game canon son that live though at least in the current timeline. Not sure what the trickster Basam has up his sleeve but he is more of an anarchical neutral power than that of evil or good. He wants to finally find his family and create a world where there is peace still though how he gets there doesn't seem to matte necessarily. He still has the staff which is imbued with his wife I believe.

[@MrRaxicorniopholus]

I’m calling it. They might use the tree to time travel back to ac3 where in order to stop the end they go with Minervas plan and Desmond lives

[@edishera]

The writer had that idea for ac3 but I think they fired him

[@lolamelola7352]

Break the code :O

[@MrChildYeeter]

@@edishera Yup the writer was the OG Patrice Desilets himself . The last story he wrote was for ac brotherhood and ac revelations the last ezio game was ended beautifully by Darby . I also think that Ac revelations story was the idea of Patrice where Darby completed the story.

[@Pomek36]

god please, i may actually start caring about ac's plot again if the return to that point

[@Lkarma_65]

Is not time travel what they are planing.

[@Konnik92]

I cannot deny that both figure and voice are a striking resemblance. Fingers cross that it's really him.

[@campkira]

more like copy of him image...

[@Assassino275]

Its obviously Desmond. Thats clearly Nolan North voicing him

[@619KJ]

I really want Desmond back. Maybe we will get to play as altair or ezio again in ps5 graphics

[@Konnik92]

@@619KJ doubt it. They milled those two characters a while ago.

[@flakemfc2764]

@@whocaresguy sounds like Nolan North (Desmond Miles)

[@ib2849]

"I look at all these timelines but i can't find the one where Ubisoft didnt F*** Assassin's Creed story"

[@dom7day]

Free Juno....and kill her in the comics. Way to hype up the antagonist.

[@campkira]

writer gave up on it... since each game had differnt one...

[@Stargazer9725]

i really wanna see desmonds son come into the games

[@lolamelola7352]

That was the worst decision by Ubisoft, the comics, and hopefully they realized about his mistake

[@richter9911]

Comic name pls?

[@tfsb999]

@AlCeeProd2.0 The only thing Ubisoft does best is to be abusive

[@AttakusZakus]

Every numbered AC title had something to do with Desmond. AC III, AC IV....AC V-alhalla... Might be a joke but who knows? Haha

[@619KJ]

AC VI-LLA

[@BenjinWS]

That's possible, nice idea.

[@lolamelola7352]

I know you're kidding, but thinking better, that's have sense

[@ledar96]

@@knoxctry1569 You serious? xDD There is "V" in it..

[@ayoo.bruce01]

Makes sense in a way because It does continue the story from 3 and 4 so in my opinion this is the real AC5.

[@stealthkills]

The reader is Desmond. Nolan voiced the reader. It’s definitely him.

[@AshishKumar-si6mo]

Now I understand why AC 3 was remastered along with Valhalla's launch. Because they both are connected.

[@chadtran1953]

Idk she said he wouldn't feel pain but that looked pretty painful to me...

[@intimestudios]

My name is Desmond miles, i was an assassin,but for save my planet, i become something more,something else, i'm the reader

[@999nigel3]

I like what you did here

[@evanroldan9566]

My Name Is Desmond Miles And my Story is just Beginning

[@pedropierre9594]

My name is Desmond Miles and I got milked by EA and disrespected but maybe I’ll be back later.

[@knife_effects]

@@pedropierre9594 EA never touched Desmond miles like that

[@greeko7638]

I'm hella sure Desmond is coming back in one of these games, since a cutscene you got deleted says that they will search the possibility of him not touching the deadly globe, that he did in ACIII. The option of him leading the group he has and possibility finding Layla again, being together etc.. Oh, he will definitely come back!

[@mitkopetrov9716]

Well,the possibility of him not touching the globe will be like a new world,where he will make a new generation.That's what it was back then in ac3.He had a choice and he did it.

[@Stargazer9725]

@Ryan Kwon or they will somehow possess a new body using a poe

[@g53096]

@Ryan Kwon Basim was there to with the radiation cant the staff just bring leyla back??

[@LoganBearDad]

I really hope so. I want Desmond back so bad

[@g53096]

@Ryan Kwon imagine time travel introduced next ac lol

[@jrodd2459]

Please bring Desmond back as the main character he was meant to be !!!!

[@AzguardMike]

remember in origins and odyseey where Alethia suggested we'd go back in time to meet her via the animus? guess Ubisoft kinda forgot about that

[@jojosbazaar4833]

Aletheia is a villain. She was Angrboda all along, Loki's lover. And Loki/Basim is the new main antagonist of the series

[@doryaman]

Didn't we already? Layla met Aletheia in the past through Kassandra's eyes using the Animus. Aletheia said some words and Kassandra was like _" what are you talking about? "_ Then Aletheia said that those words weren't for Kassandra, but for the Heir of Memories (Layla).

[@shinyy187]

what's crazy is that there really was a coronal mass ejection in 2012- in July- that missed Earth by nine days. AC3 came out in October that year. That's seems like quite a short time to change such a big point in the story of the game. That, or the devs just had a "lucky" coincidence.

[@hunterwhite9801]

In AC Unity there is a message confirming that Desmond and Clay are in the gray

[@TheVorket]

I just hope they finally got the idea for modern day story

[@royrenouf4530]

Desmond talking about possible future timelines, is a reference to ac4. After hacking one of the computers in the upper right in Sample 17 floor, his memo 2 talks Clay's memories of the first civilization which includes the machine that predict POSSIBLE FUTURES.

[@smiley9615]

Tbh I did not expected that and plus some old theory video of youtuber's prediction were right that desmond is still alive but in a form of bright yellow glitching code on the abstergo exploration footage cutscene on AC: black flag and the prediction was that he was involved the node of time situation on AC origins since they revealed that multiple timelines were exist

[@paris8681]

I’m just hoping for a bada** Layla and Desmond team up and more Rebecca and Shaun

[@windgod1106]

You realize with this now being a thing They opened up the possibility of resurrecting altair ezio connor and every assassin to join the fight against the ones who came before.

[@Nakamura65]

hardly, Basim was only resurrected because his body was left in the temple and his mind was uploaded to the machine and Layla brought him the spear and helped him download his mind back to his body and after that he used the spear to heal his decayed body back to what it was. Unless Ezio or Altair minds are stored somewhere and their bodies are preserved and they can be remerged, nobody else is coming back.

[@Devils1023]

Shaun has so many face changes he looks nothing like he did in ac2 lol

[@beaumanuel9450]

It's obviously Desmond miles, I know the game didn't tell us but with the same voice actor playing the reader than that makes it obvious.

[@jason_benedict]

Wow... Desmond is just like Doctor Strange now. "I went forward in time, to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict." "How many did you see?" "14,000,605." "How many did we survive?" "One."

[@sarcasticismysecondname]

That is desmond, without a doubt, but a theory popped into my Brain, what is when Desmond alias the Reader is waiting for the others readers to arrive because like we see here, Layla is helping him of reading the Millions of timelinse, and the games we are playing are not only the memories of someone but of what Desmond reads the whole time, he tries to find a solution, and waited for Layla and maybe others more to come. But it's just a theory.

[@CMAC1310]

A game theory...

[@Azmodaeus49]

So, Desmond Miles (the reader) is 32 in the grey there 🤨 (shocking) how his essence (consciousness/spirit) survived Assassin Creed 3 (After how manipulative Juno was back then). Also, Minerva didn't help at all back then but made it a little bit worse for Desmond, he was in a hard place and did what he thought was right for humanity and himself. At least he knows what his purpose is now.

[@lolamelola7352]

0:41 Ok, that sentence have so much sense now

[@blacktigerpaw1]

I guess you didn't pay enough attention to AC III. Desmond was talking about his specific timeline because Juno told him the world could burn and the Assassin/Templar fight be destroyed, and then watch it arise again from the worship of Desmond as a martyr. That game was supposed to be the ending, because the original writer had been fired. These games were not planned for.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

@Max Creative differences, I think.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

@Templar Gaming I've heard that too. The premise isn't too bad, it's just the execution that matters.

[@zainabm.2388]

When i played ac3 and desmond wanted to put his hand on this thing i was in tears saying: “no desmond please look at me love please this cant be the ending no no no” HAHAHA i will never forget this

[@FadeClubGR]

Same i was like dang i wont be able to play as Desmond anymore 🥲🤣

[@sng3939]

It was good to see some form of Desmond back in assassins creed!

[@tfsb999]

Desmond and Layla. Adam and Eve.

[@ssssSTopmotion]

Are they gonna mate or sum shit

[@etgarmoyal]

@@ssssSTopmotion ubisoft wants to know your location

[@FaF-z]

@@ssssSTopmotion this is ubisoft ceo u better delete this shit or im coming for you

[@infinium9469]

I hate stories when u fell in love in one character and it dies then it turns out some 10th character is way much important and greater and this game keeps doing that countless times i personaly love much more skyrim than valhalla rn because of all of this im disapointed

[@alyasVictorio]

At least, we know Desmond's true context about him became the reader as the real ending instead of our context about us though that he's supposed to be died over the game's overview.

[@tee_saw]

What if someone in the future was re living Desmonds memories? I wonder

[@lllllRoguelllllX]

Holy shit imagine

[@HashiraHatake]

I really do think his consciousness did end up being in the grey like Juno said in black flag. When he says my new life it sounds reasonable

[@lolamelola7352]

Just like Adan (Desmond) and Eve (Layla). Dammit, what a plot twist :O

[@blacktigerpaw1]

That is not a plot twist.

[@atharvagokhale27]

Layla is not eve. Eve's descendant is Galina Voronina.

[@danilolquerojr.]

he wassamata you reader?

[@N1k4_Gr1v]

(Not mean but happy said)He was right. That Bastard was right all along. Desmond might be "physically" dead but his Mind is still intact, just like Clay's aka subject 16

[@trenceminiel6226]

First time seein this as soon as I heard Desmond’s voice I got goosebumps man he definitely gonna be more included in the the next games. Hopefully they jus not rpg

[@niteshadowx2394]

I dont even think desmond died I think lowkey it was a test to see how far he would go to bring peace to the world and save it and he did it what happened after is unknown they say hes dead but what if he didnt die what if he transcended became something more and is still alive and that's why they mention him in Valhalla in the opening here you see a beam go though him and straight up as if it was taking his soul out of his body

[@b1battledroid144]

Desmond is the reader

[@GabyGurau-w7w]

yes

[@JinX_11199]

Definitely

[@kollinlorenzo3287]

plus theres also this one obvious theory Adam = Desmond = Reader Eve = Layla = Second Reader

[@dylanrinker6831]

@@kollinlorenzo3287 well...no shit

[@kollinlorenzo3287]

@@dylanrinker6831 yeah no shit were nearly the end now that the entire chosen one hero plot has finally been revealed

[@TheoSlaps]

Gotta say, i really got attracted to eivor and really liked him as a character it would be cool to just resurrect him from the bones lol but anw it izz what it izz :p

[@Kennykiller19]

Felt the same but ply another ac game

[@HELLER.]

And now Layla is with Desmond now to trying save the world. Who will take they place next?

[@kicmi6910]

Maybe Bassim?

[@lNer0xl]

@@kicmi6910 nah he will now screw up some things and possibly try to kill desmond's father.

[@JJ.R4300X]

Elijah...

[@Stargazer9725]

i hope it's elijah

[@HELLER.]

@@Stargazer9725 if I'm not wrong he is Desmond son right or William?

[@TRUELIVING]

I beg you Ubisoft, in the next one go back to the old mechanics, and evolve and make it better how low they killed this game.

[@ANIMA_illuminat]

So the Adam and Eve plot still continues after all the hints we got from the first AC games. That's cool

[@letrobstrobs6523]

Now comes Timetravel with Adam und Eve? It's like "Netflix: Dark" all over again :D

[@danplays1403]

Ah i see you are a man of culture as well

[@Dee___On]

And boom new Adam and Eve

[@HashiraHatake]

So juno was right on with Desmond being in the grey so is clay there too like she said maybe we know he sacrifices himself in revelations but could’ve been saved somehow. So does this mean they’ll go back to 2013?

[@darryldavis6063]

Assassin's Creed Genesis would be a great title to see them go back to the days of the First Civ. I want to see Desmond back in action.

[@Jay-cy3wt]

Is there a dlc coming? If it’s like the Odyssey dlc, then it could advance the story, no? I hope so. I’m not ready for another Assassins Creed and I’m sure everyone else is tired of this series building up to a video game that STILL hasn’t happened

[@SaywixX]

Should be but feels like the game its slowly coming to the end

[@SaywixX]

So migh be dlc and last game

[@unc54]

I really hope they don't finish what looks to be a great modern-day plot in the DLC.

[@Achilles053]

@@SaywixX I can see it coming to the end but it doesn’t make sense from a business perspective to end Assassins creed. Especially recently with all the new attention it’s getting

[@afiffarakhan4992]

What about Desmond's son?

[@ayanbossyt7536]

Lucy is dead soooooo

[@Lightningkuriboh]

@@ayanbossyt7536 no he has a son in the comics lol

[@kingwrld2743]

Elijah miles Desmond son

[@boambeats9774]

@@kingwrld2743 Whhaaaaaattt?

[@aprilrosequartz]

@@ayanbossyt7536 In one of the recordings of Desmond Miles (AC4), he stated he had a wife and kid. I don't know if Ubisoft will do this to the game series but in the comics, Elijah is a sage, and he ended Juno and her cult then he escaped the cult.. Yeah, it's messy

[@stevenstraker5105]

10:22 Who took the staff? Basim?

[@DefecTec]

They should retcon killing Juno, killing Desmond and Juno was the worst mistakes for the modern day story

[@tron0150]

Animations in new AC are worse than in 8 years old game, wtf.

[@SquishySquid88]

All the good animators and the original creative director are gone including the narrative director Corey May who helped Patrice realize his vision for the story. all the interns and ego driven developers decided to take no inspiration from the original games and try and make their own version. All this in hopes of making their 'mark' in the gaming industry. This is why in my opinion all the games after AC3 are irrelevant. The story died with Desmond as far as i am concerned. AC4 is only good if you want to enjoy some swashbuckling, but that is never what assassins creed was supposed to be about. It was rumored that the original story was going to end up with you playing as Desmond miles present day, fighting the Templars after realizing his heritage and completing his training through his ancestors. Giving us all the chance to experience a full game playing as Desmond the entire time.

[@3xpc8libur]

I feel like That’s what happens when you want to give dialogue options to characters, you have to spend time on animating all those other dialogue animations and have less time with cutscene animations

[@Kaliospectre]

They DID want to copy the Witcher, jank and all I guess.

[@DeadDancers]

Not everthings about you, Leyla.

[@MortSalazar]

Makes you wonder If Desmond had the staff Of Hermes in the temple would his body survive

[@Fjuncaj]

I’m not well versed in recognizing languages, was that Arabic Layla was speaking at 5 minutes in?

[@genevievelaplace7301]

Ok so if I understand correctly time travel is a thing the Isu can do with their technology ?

[@doryaman]

No, they can only see far into the future and leave messages from their current time, as far as I know.

[@genevievelaplace7301]

@@doryaman So Desmond and Layla will look the past and send message according to that logic.

[@potte2314]

Am I the only one pissed about basim/loki escaping with the staff essentially killing our protagonist a second time? (I'm double mad bc I didn't play origins or odyssey yet)

[@Kennykiller19]

Like that shit was annoying!!!!!!!! Same

[@derangedcrouton1864]

Why can't we get a single mocapped scene wtf this is a scene important enough that it should have been mocapped

[@Assassino275]

@MoVerse They usually reinvent shit after 3 games so hopefully they get their crap together in the next game

[@WinstonPoptart]

@@easthorizonfilms no, its an Odyssey sequel

[@WinstonPoptart]

@@easthorizonfilms definitely in feel because the gameplay shares a lot more simulaties with Odyssey than Origins

[@derangedcrouton1864]

@@easthorizonfilms they had 2 years..... 2 years.... they have no excuse considering 2019 was covid free. Also doom eternal ancient gods was made without mocap because cutscenes were in production during quarantine but look at how good the animation Is anyway because unlike ubi they actually put time and effort into their games and aren't lazy

[@derangedcrouton1864]

@@Assassino275 unlikely well get another odyssey

[@SpeedosAndTheGun]

I know it’s kinda a stretch but Imgine they actually did do the whole humanity, reset storyline and they made a modern day ac set in a future post apocalyptic/human reset world

[@parkmojo6168]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Basim's assassin outfit looks like the origin outfit of the Assassin outfit from AC 1?

[@queek5389]

I mean it makes sense, him and hytham where from the hidden ones of the Abassid Caliphate, and during the early 9th century they held Egypt before the... I want to say Tunninids broke away. Egypt was the origin point of the Hashyshinn before they moved to Arabia. Regionaly it all makes sense

[@vishnulachansin9023]

After AC4 ALL THIS FRANCHISE WENT TO SHIY

[@doryaman]

What are you saying, dude... It's all starting to come together now. The story in AC Valhalla is good, like REALLY good, unlike the one in Odyssey.

[@ArrowShaky]

If you really "play" Valhalla and "fan" of the AC games, you will really love this Isu thing that has been focused since the FIRST game, hell, even AC4

[@LeumazDnazor]

Its people like you that make me ashamed of being an assassins creed fan

[@victormenescal3686]

If they're stuck in the Grey, does that mean we will get a new protagonist?

[@BenjinWS]

Most likely, yeah.

[@imixupwords5340]

Hopefully its Desmond's son.

[@aver7693]

Yes. I believe it was confirmed that Valhalla would be the conclusion to Layla's arc. And now that Layla has joined Desmond in the Gray / Grey, the next AC will likely be a new Modern Day protagonist. We still have a lot of new story strands to pick up, so I'll be excited to see them interact with Basim and Aletheia.

[@imixupwords5340]

@Max No why would he be? The man is the next villain. He may be the "protagonist" of Valhalla's DLC's since you know Layla be dead but for next installments it's gonna be someone else and I hope it's Desmond's son.

[@bellebirk7386]

Even tho hes clearly the bad guy I lowkey want it to be Basim, like him working with the Assassins to achieve his own ends because hes such a cool fucking character. Then again, another cool option could be Shaun since he has been going into the animus as stated in one of the docs on the laptop.

[@Quasarii]

desmond literally transformed to an Ascended Drip

[@christophersmith556]

Assassin's Creed 3's modern day storyline will always be my favorite because we finally got to see the Bleeding Effect in effect. Maybe in the future they'll bring his son Elijah into the story.

[@SpeedosAndTheGun]

Layla is boring character so I kinda hope Desmond could just be brought back in some way

[@ablock9040]

till this day I wish he didn't die

[@Manoj_Kumar1973]

Now if someone have questions how sigurd survive the magnetic radiation of pedestal in assassins creed valhalla when he activate the simulator is because of Tyr Reincarnation... As desmond was normal human his body vaporise due to magnetic radiation as he touch pedestal and trapped in simulator

[@AlexiosLair]

"Assassin's Creed is a good franchise"

[@AlexiosLair]

@Static Gaming how so? Writers will remain the same in Ubisoft.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

"We retconned everything Desmond did because now we have the multiverse, lol"

[@ajayavsm7476]

it is

[@CyberAkaris]

It's crazy to think that the cycle will start again with Lyla and Desmond being like Isu Adam and Eve

[@afiffarakhan4992]

As long as Ubisoft didn't stay true to the laws of the Assassin's Creed Universe and just making up stuff that doesn't make sense to the franchise this will keep the franchise lead to another catasthrope

[@tron-a-con3700]

I hope Desmond somehow gets a new body and returns I don't care if its done in the most ridiculous way I know everyone wants the man back. Theory Abstergo still has Desmond's body, with a combination from the shroud of Eden, an apple and whatever technology needed his body can be fixed and he can return to the world of the living maybe finally we can have a propper AC modern game

[@-yamibara-9714]

Time for Basim’s Time In Ac 2022 :D

[@FerociousMit]

I think since they made Greek and Norse mythology real isu civilizations, I'm gonna guess all religions in this world are factual and Desmond and Layla will be apart of the Christian religion coming back to life like Jesus when the time comes. I honestly don't want to see the series end, but I'd like a more modern game sometime to answer some questions.

[@aprilrosequartz]

That... actually makes a lot of sense, holy cow

[@joshuabutterworthlemon8989]

Finally ubisoft is fixing assassins creed and bringing it back to its former glory now let's keep it that way and soon let it die as legendary and don't milk it

[@ChrisAki8199]

He reminds me of Google lol. R.I.P Demons Miles❤

[@JSeedFM]

Abstergo got Desmond body and they can extract his genetic memory and see where is 2 apples of eden

[@josipiris5794]

I really , really , know now , just why , The Havi , or The Odin , has to burn The Ygdrasil , because only then , the Reader , and the Heir of the memories , could escape this " Santaraka like - state . " . From , then , they could , the one thing , they have / had in , that was always / already " just a theory " , now freed upon , all of that nexus , and all of that calculations . Now , they only had to apply it . Only as a source of a somewhat , like a new creation .

[@obsidianwarrior5580]

Where's Clay though? He's supposed to be in the Gray as well.

[@frosttheicelord1497]

Clay got erased by the animus memory core

[@aprilrosequartz]

He gave his last "existence" to Desmond so he could finish looking into Ezio's memory

[@Dan-zc3ou]

WOW, so the fanfics were right aftert all

[@tjjordan4207]

Ironic that the modern-day story has now returned to Desmond. He seems a lot more mature and experienced this time around, something I wish the older games had done. It feels good that the modern-day story has purpose and meaning again. I was hoping the stuff with Juno would pave the way for the Assassins and Templars in teaming up against her, and instead they decided to have the Juno arc to be completed in a freaking comic instead. Makes me wonder what the original plan was, if there was one.

[@damonguill9648]

That took more than an instant to kill him lmao darn liars

[@subruzz_]

what if we got to play as desmond's son in ac infinity

[@JBrotsis1]

I was hoping this video explained how the Reader is Desmond but it doesn’t. I played this part in the game and I still don’t understand.

[@doryaman]

Well, maybe since Desmond touched the orb device back in AC III, his consciousness got uploaded into the device??

[@petrgalko4152]

Damn... Shaun and Rebeca looked WAAAY better in Desmond's games... Wasn't Shaun Blonde and well... white?

[@enbi4402]

Is Desmond being in this reader form the same as Clay in AC Revelations? Or was that a separate thing?

[@spicymeat786]

Will assassin's creed ever end? Will ubisoft make an altair game? Will assassin's creed be the game it was once, and not an rpg shit? Find out in the next exciting episode of DRAGON BALL Z

[@floyd7401]

just realized the place looks like the paths in AOT....gdi!

[@LiuKang33440]

Plot twist: the reader is Nathan drake

[@phifan-mia1503]

You all know that they're gonna make Desmond son be Kassandra mother lmao