How Disney Is Changing Doctor Who

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@Weezlenut
@Weezlenut 11 ай бұрын
As an American Whovian I really hope Disney doesn't try to Americanize the show, at all. If there are any sayings or phrases that new American audience members don't understand they can damn well Google it. I like the idea of the goblins but I personally wasn't as impressed with the goblin concert scene. I agree about the practical effects being a better way as much as possible. It celebrates the history of the show. I also do NOT like the new screwdriver. I do appreciate the personalized sigils but visually when I first saw it it reminded me of an electric razor and revealing the new incarnation of the Doctors screwdriver was always more of an event. This felt more like, "oh by the way here's the new screwdriver". Even though we haven't seen much of him, so far I like Ncuti's Doctor. I'm interested to see where he goes with the role.
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 11 ай бұрын
"The Impossible Astronaut" and "Day of the Moon" were shot in part in the States (Utah), funded by BBC America at the time, so "Amercanising" Who for the sake of the plot worked OK. I wouldn't want it doing so "full time".
@davidconner-shover51
@davidconner-shover51 11 ай бұрын
@@andrewmurray1550 I'm more worried about the Disneyfication of the show, which I started to smell a lot of from the first seasons of the new series.
@rees89
@rees89 11 ай бұрын
@@andrewmurray1550 That's not what they mean by "Americanizing" they mean giving the same formulaic plot a lot of American shows tend to get. A lot of the studios there sort of shoot down anything outside of a box and force-change it, often losing the charm of the original show premise. Also a reference to forcing it to appeal to a stereotypical American audience and losing a lot of the subtle British humour within the show itself. A lot of American humour has to be in-your-face obvious where as British humour tends to be more dry. Doctor Who does have some of the obvious humour because it's meant to be approachable to kids of a certain age but does still have a lot of dry humour.
@SStupendous
@SStupendous 10 ай бұрын
@@andrewmurray1550 Set/filmed in, or working with American productions =/= "Americanizing"
@jonny1872
@jonny1872 10 ай бұрын
🤣too late, they smashed it to bits already.
@kingdonut6675
@kingdonut6675 11 ай бұрын
I’m more concerned about the Whoniverse because I’m afraid it will start out fine but then get to big like the MCU. I don’t want their to be a season of UNIT that ends on a cliffhanger that gets resolved 5 years later on the Shadow Proclamation.
@rhodrage
@rhodrage 11 ай бұрын
Just reminded me about the Class Cliffhanger
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 11 ай бұрын
Ahh... The most-widely distributed spin-off, at times even greater.​ I lo-lo-loved the audacity of it, "@@rhodrage".
@roblough3314
@roblough3314 11 ай бұрын
Why worry about Britishisms in a British show? I’m sure people in other countries will be fine. It’s not like when American shows are shown here we come out in a cold sweat and start panicking whenever they say something uniquely American and I’m sure the reverse is true for them.
@mikaelastefkova
@mikaelastefkova 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've been watching Doctor Who (and other British shows) for years now and honestly learning new words and slang has been a part of the fun! Some were really contagious, I had a period in my life when I couldn't help, but say "blimey" quite often while speaking English 😄 Greetings from Czech Republic haha
@IamJustJ.
@IamJustJ. 11 ай бұрын
I enjoy not having the Britishisms not having been explained to me. Despite being an American, I've always felt watching shows in their native setting has provided me with more information that I can self-translate. It's easier to retain when you learn for yourself rather than having someone tell you what things are.
@mikaelastefkova
@mikaelastefkova 11 ай бұрын
@@IamJustJ. So true!
@Cero_GT
@Cero_GT 11 ай бұрын
It really isn’t a big deal in the US. Not like this is the only British show people watch over here! As long as Ellie is done gatekeeping for new viewers we’ll be fine 😂😂😂.
@burf90
@burf90 11 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone is particularly worried about them. Some people (like me) just enjoy discussing the differences in language usage. I watch so much British TV and read so many British authors that I probably know their terms better than some Americanisms.
@CritterKeeper01
@CritterKeeper01 11 ай бұрын
Remember, Disney didn't influence the filming of the other specials! Rachel Talalay said at Chicago TARDIS that the Disney deal wasn't struck until *after* the first three specials were done. And she directed "The Star Beast", so that mix of practical and CGI you were praising was all pre-Disney!
@ZPTube0972
@ZPTube0972 11 ай бұрын
Is there a source on that? Not that I don’t believe you, I’ve just never heard that before
@danthemeegs8751
@danthemeegs8751 11 ай бұрын
It was confirmed in Doctor Who Magazine that Disney gave notes on the specials. Which of course they would if they're gonna be on their platform! So yeah while they were filmed before the deal, there was still a whole year of post-production to go before release
@CritterKeeper01
@CritterKeeper01 11 ай бұрын
@@danthemeegs8751 On all the specials, or just on Ruby Road?
@CritterKeeper01
@CritterKeeper01 11 ай бұрын
@@ZPTube0972 Like I said, Rachel Talalay (sp?) *said* it herself at Chicago TARDIS. She directed "The Star Beast."
@ZPTube0972
@ZPTube0972 11 ай бұрын
@@CritterKeeper01 OH, sorry I misread that as just Chicago and was confused about like “was this an event, was there something going on?”
@OceanWalk7
@OceanWalk7 11 ай бұрын
I'm German, and I love the Britishisms! (and they are usually clear from context)
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 11 ай бұрын
I'm Catalan (honorary Scottish lassie at heart), and so do I. Each time I watch Doctor Who, I feel like having a cuppa and donning a bonnet. Och, aye!
@marianneootjers4786
@marianneootjers4786 11 ай бұрын
Hello neighbour, Dutchie here; I also love the Britishisms, both the words and the humour/quirkiness. It feels akin to what Dutch humour can be with its dryness, dry wit and touch of sarcasm and self deprivation/not taking yourself too seriously, at least that's what it feels like to me.
@Lazmanarus
@Lazmanarus 11 ай бұрын
@@marianneootjers4786 self-deprecation actually.
@marianneootjers4786
@marianneootjers4786 11 ай бұрын
@@LazmanarusAh, yes, that would be the correct term, instead of what I wrote 🙈 Thanks for the correction! 😀
@Dynasty954
@Dynasty954 11 ай бұрын
Let's talk about the new sonic screwdriver. THATS A COMPUTER MOUSE! NOT A SCREWDRIVER!
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 11 ай бұрын
oh totally designed for the toy market!
@sledgeandhishammer253
@sledgeandhishammer253 11 ай бұрын
Nah it’s a sky remote 😂
@Twillek1019_
@Twillek1019_ 11 ай бұрын
It’s definitely a tv remote
@googamp32
@googamp32 11 ай бұрын
It looks more like a second generation Digivice.
@Anna-B
@Anna-B 11 ай бұрын
Exactly! So annoying…
@yensid4294
@yensid4294 11 ай бұрын
People in the US have had access to British shows & movies for decades. Benny Hill was *huge* here in the 70s & PBS rotinely aired Britsh comedy shows (Monty Python, Are You Being Served, Faulty Towers, etc) as well as British murder mystery/detective series. Doctor Who aired briefly on PBS but sadly wasn't picked up as a regularly aired show. Top Gear was another hugely popular show here in the US. It's not that difficult to figure out terminology based on context or you can also look it up if the context isn't obvious. Personally, I like British shows for their Britishness even if I don't always get the pop culture or political references. I would hope Disney gets why people are fans & not mess with it too much.
@gilgameshofuruk4060
@gilgameshofuruk4060 11 ай бұрын
I'm 59 and British and I don't get the pop culture references.
@davidconner-shover51
@davidconner-shover51 11 ай бұрын
Who was carried from the mid '70s through to the early '90s in Boston, they even played what reruns they could of Drs 1,2 and 3. when the current season was done. Some of those episodes I hadn't seen since, or to be found anywhere.
@tutstut6909
@tutstut6909 11 ай бұрын
It’s difficult to think Disney won’t take a stronger and stronger hand as time does on. Sometimes a more limited budget creates better dialogue and story. I’m worried they might just push for the spectacle even if it doesn’t make sense
@ModelsExInferis
@ModelsExInferis 11 ай бұрын
They took Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger and made Power Rangers out of it, ripping up the original story and shitting all over it. I have every confidence they'll do the same to DW. Everything has to be dumbed down for the lowest common American denominator afterall.
@cpenner7086
@cpenner7086 11 ай бұрын
diseny doesnt own doctor who though....how would they influence it in anyway?
@screennamemissing
@screennamemissing 11 ай бұрын
@@cpenner7086 Money.
@paytonlarson3709
@paytonlarson3709 11 ай бұрын
BBC still owns Doctor Who, Disney just owns the rights to air it on their app for everywhere except the UK, in the UK it still airs on BBC
@lcflngn
@lcflngn 11 ай бұрын
@@cpenner7086They apparently give notes, but the one we know about wasn’t a bad thing
@foolonthehill8410
@foolonthehill8410 11 ай бұрын
If someone is confused by the words used in a British tv show, they are lacking in common sense. Both characters in the scene made it very clear what a pram was just by context
@fleason771
@fleason771 11 ай бұрын
You say this but the Disney test audience flagged it up! RTD said he was asked if he would consider changing "Pram" to "Stroller" & he flatly refused. RTD then said this is an example where he gets notes but won't always agree & can refuse.
@scooterdooter
@scooterdooter 11 ай бұрын
What about the syllable "pram" says "baby" "walk" "wheels" "carriage"? Nothing. TRY to figure it out, YOU might be the problem! NOT the rest of the world. EDIT: BWAH HA HA HA!!! The explanation is even dumber than the word "pram". How does "PER-AMBULATE" become "PRAM"?! That's even worse than it being a nonsense word! Pfft. But yeah, everybody around the world uses the word "perambulate" in everyday conversation so it must be THE WORLD's fault...
@ooooneeee
@ooooneeee 11 ай бұрын
​@@scooterdooterwhat about it makes it clear? The context of the scene.
@foolonthehill8410
@foolonthehill8410 11 ай бұрын
@@scooterdooter i dont know the origins of the word pram, and if someone doesnt know the meaning of it, i dont blame them. but if you watch the scene, its very obvious what is being referred to when the doctor says pram
@foolonthehill8410
@foolonthehill8410 11 ай бұрын
@@fleason771 as much as i disagree with some of the changes RTD has made to the show, i respect his decision to keep british dialect. as long as there are context clues, you dont need to be a genius to figure it out. also, google is free to use
@mynameskatt
@mynameskatt 11 ай бұрын
As an american that has watched doctor who since I was a kid, about 15 years, I have no problem with translating common british words to the american version. The things I always have a hard time with is pop culture things that are British specific. However I agree with you. I really don't want Disney to take over. Doctor Who is amazing on its own, it really doesn't need to americanized and I'm afraid Disney will make that happen.
@kevin10001
@kevin10001 11 ай бұрын
I agree cause I have watched a lot of British shows over the years that I know a lot of British terms for things even though I’m American and I don’t need the show Americanized for me cause like the stroller scene I knew what she was pushing even though the doctor used the British name for it and a nitpicky question is why was she using a stroller for her groceries
@SuperDave1426
@SuperDave1426 11 ай бұрын
Oh, I would put *money* on it. Disney has managed to destroy just about every other IP that they've purchased; I see no reason why Dr. Who would be spared Disneyfication... 😔
@judithstrachan9399
@judithstrachan9399 11 ай бұрын
Thankfully, they only purchased viewing rights, not the show, let’s hope they don’t!
@Liver18
@Liver18 11 ай бұрын
@@judithstrachan9399if they do Doctor Who will be dead to me
@SuperDave1426
@SuperDave1426 11 ай бұрын
@@judithstrachan9399 Did you miss the part where they're financing it - I.E., putting money into the show - and the part where they've been "sending notes"? Believe me, they can influence the show, and as stated in the video, they already *have*. Fortunately, these were not their typical kind of changes, but I wouldn't put it past them for one minute that they will want to push it in whatever direction they feel is "best." I have 0% faith in Disney to just leave it alone and let RTD run the show.
@JoeDouglas
@JoeDouglas 11 ай бұрын
P.S. I HATE that they are calling it "Season 1." So much disrespect to what came before.
@terrier_productions
@terrier_productions 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. I think it should be Season 1 on D+ and Series 14 on iPlayer.. I will always refer to it has Series 14
@lucindasavona2278
@lucindasavona2278 11 ай бұрын
That is Disney to a T!
@DanyTheMe
@DanyTheMe 11 ай бұрын
It's not disrespectful, the show's done it before. What matters is the actual continuity of the text. Season numbers are meaningless.
@ModelsExInferis
@ModelsExInferis 11 ай бұрын
I hate it that it's called "season" anything, it's SERIES!
@bettinaceciliasilveira5773
@bettinaceciliasilveira5773 11 ай бұрын
@@DanyTheMe they did it before after a long hiatus. No reason to do it now!
@DragonXVI
@DragonXVI 11 ай бұрын
Just a reminder that Doctor Who has been available in US and Canadian markets for years. Also Disney is a production company … the writers and directors set the tone. Doctor Who is a franchise and has it’s own tone just like Marvel, Disney, Pixar.
@c0nvict_pleb174
@c0nvict_pleb174 11 ай бұрын
Good. That mouse’s gloves can have its hands off the ip
@katrose5179
@katrose5179 11 ай бұрын
Disney is a production company that keeps a choke hold on its writers and directors.
@depressedutchman
@depressedutchman 11 ай бұрын
Qnononono you don't get it Disney has MONEY and they don't give MONEY if doctor who isn't woke and boring!
@Superman679
@Superman679 11 ай бұрын
Just a reminder. If it wasn't for Canada and the CBC. None of this would be happening and frankly, seeing how woke the show has become. I almost wish us Canadian tax payers hadn't funded the return in 2005. The 2005 reboot was a BBC CBC co-production, Canada paid for half of it and had we said no, the reboot might not and probably would not have happened ! And never forget, that had it not been for Sidney Powell, CANADIAN, the man who came up with the basic plot for a new show he wanted that became Doctor Who. The world might not and probably would not have ever heard of Doctor Who !!!!! You're Welcome !!!! At this point, I am not sure which is worse. Murkin arrogance or British arrogance !? Especially when I read shyte like this and watch videos like this ! Praising all this woke Femanazi BS that almost everything has become and going on and on about British this and British that and completely forgetting that if it wasn't for Sydney Powell CANADIAN, all of it would not exist and the CBC paid for half of the reboot in 2005. Not it's all BBC, BBC, BBC, British, British, British, Woke, Woke, Woke. Half of me is glad you are forgetting that if it wasn't for Canadian Sydney Powell who ordered the show and came up with the basic premise and the CBC that paid for half the reboot in 2005, especially seeing how woke and Shyte the show became after Capaldi
@Superman679
@Superman679 11 ай бұрын
@@depressedutchman Thought I was the only non sycophant in the comment section ! Nice to see someone else who isn't sucking on the woke teet
@deborahjohnson2590
@deborahjohnson2590 11 ай бұрын
I'm from the US and have watched Dr Who for many years. I love it! I was not aware that it was originally available through PBS but makes since because the do air many of the British shows on PBS. However, it has been available on BBC America for many years. I think since David Tenants original time as the doctor. Through BBC America I have been able to watch many excellent shows from the UK. Maybe because if this I know many Britishisms because I love British drama, sci-fi, and comedy but anytime I don't understand I google it and find out. By the way I believe a pram is more of what we call a baby buggy because a stroller is more of a seated carrier and the pram is more of one the baby can lay down in. Classic Who airs on Pluto a free streaming service but I do wish I could have seen it back when it originally aired. Believe me when I say Who Culture is alive and well here in the states and I'm excited to see where it goes in this new season. It does sound strange even though I'm from the states to say season, even though we use that term here, because it's always been called a series.
@rebmoti1
@rebmoti1 11 ай бұрын
Imagine what Disney would have said if the Doctor was in bed for half the episode, like Tennant’s first episode.
@SSGTStryker
@SSGTStryker 11 ай бұрын
3:59 Yes, a pram is in fact a stroller. Fit essentially means “hot.” For some of us that have spent either a large amount of time immersed in British culture or maybe stationed with them in the military, I instantly picked up on it.
@FlagCutie
@FlagCutie 11 ай бұрын
Or have a deeper reading comprehension than the average elementary school level that a lot american adults have. Just look at the context lol
@der_sebbl
@der_sebbl 11 ай бұрын
Just logical thinking should be enough. I didn't knew what a pram was before I watched the episode but I immediatly understodd it, given the context of the scene. The Doctor even said something like "WHo is walking with a PRAM at night"
@SSGTStryker
@SSGTStryker 11 ай бұрын
You both are absolutely right, sadly there are those who do not.
@NottherealLucifer
@NottherealLucifer 11 ай бұрын
I've heard the word "pram" many times in other shows, but even if I hadn't, it's not that hard to figure out what it means. When someone says "pram" and then they run over to a pram, only the dumbest of all humans should be unable to deduce the answer to that cosmic riddle. Americans are very dumb, on average, to be fair.
@JCarlHenderson
@JCarlHenderson 11 ай бұрын
"Pram" is short for "perambulator"-a word which is really archaic British English. "Fit" I'm sure I've seen used in US English, and in any event is obvious from context.
@freakctc
@freakctc 11 ай бұрын
My big hope about Disney's influence on Doctor Who is that they will offer them use of the Muppets employees for help with practical effects (like their Jim Henson origins) and aid from ILM for CGI and effects. I'm hoping for less influence on scripts, and more on presentation, keeping those low budget roots in mind.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 11 ай бұрын
So you want to have your cake and eat it too, you "genius"?
@SStupendous
@SStupendous 10 ай бұрын
@@maazkalim Huh? Touch grass and then rephrase that.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 10 ай бұрын
Are you a sock-puppet of "the OP", "@@SStupendous"?
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 11 ай бұрын
I recall when "Crocodile Dundee" was released they redubbed the dialogue by American actors (for the US release of the film), because Americans didn't understand the Aussie accents or mannerisms or colloquialisms that made Mick Dundee who he was.....yet years later, the US viewers couldn't get enough of Steve Irwin,. Crododile Hunter.
@gilgameshofuruk4060
@gilgameshofuruk4060 11 ай бұрын
A lot of the time, it's executives and the sort of people who are free all day to go to rest screenings who decide that the rest of Americans won't understand things.
@pcmacintyre
@pcmacintyre 11 ай бұрын
Pram: A stroller or baby carriage. A stroller will usually have the baby or toddler sitting up while a baby carriage has the baby lying down.
@Beth_Alice_Kaplan
@Beth_Alice_Kaplan 7 ай бұрын
I thought a stroller was a push chair?
@JCarlHenderson
@JCarlHenderson 11 ай бұрын
There is nothing that diehard Doctor Who fans love more than declaring that with a new Doctor, new Showrunner, new Companion, new Plot Twist, etc. that the show is RUINED and it just DEAD TO THEM.
@watermelon..baby12
@watermelon..baby12 11 ай бұрын
I hope we dont. Really?
@gamerboiiiiiii
@gamerboiiiiiii 11 ай бұрын
No, no the last few sessons have absolutely been desd to me.
@annejeppesen160
@annejeppesen160 11 ай бұрын
A time honoured tradition for any fanbase. Most of the time it’s just our various degrees of autism that needs time to adjust. I will claim that all people have at minimum a few light autistic traits.
@crispendaysh3401
@crispendaysh3401 10 ай бұрын
I agree it feels it to me unfortunately but I like listening to Ellie’s opinion on the program.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 11 ай бұрын
I've heard that the Disney money will kick in with Season 1. If so, what we've seen so far is Bad Wolf/Sony money... which is pretty impressive in its own right.
@DanyTheMe
@DanyTheMe 11 ай бұрын
No, the specials all were co produced by Disney. They definitely had that Disney budget already
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 11 ай бұрын
@@DanyTheMe OK - I'm just going on what some other, usually sensible, sources have said.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 11 ай бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman Thanks. So what I said originally wasn't too wide of the mark, except inasmuch as only the three 60th Anniversary Specials benefited from Sony/BadWolf input. It seems that "Ruby Road" was the first to get an extra uplift from Disney.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 11 ай бұрын
It's better if you can substantiate your claims, such as, by being more precise about sourcing -​"@@OneTrueScotsman".
@SKaVeN9798
@SKaVeN9798 11 ай бұрын
I guess the question is, when they do get to doing classic villains (Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans, etc.), how will they be Disneyfied?
@Mark-nh2hs
@Mark-nh2hs 11 ай бұрын
Remember RTD is doing fantasy now not Sci-fi 😂 so unlikely any on your list will pop up 😂. Unless they use Magical Pixie Dust 😂
@SKaVeN9798
@SKaVeN9798 11 ай бұрын
@@Mark-nh2hs, yeah, well, they changed the design of the sonic screwdriver into a sonic tricorder, instead of a magic wand, so who knows...
@Mark-nh2hs
@Mark-nh2hs 11 ай бұрын
@@SKaVeN9798 🤣👍
@gamerboiiiiiii
@gamerboiiiiiii 11 ай бұрын
I mean he changed davros so he dosent have his chair bevause it paints disabled people as a whole as evil apparently
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 11 ай бұрын
Aren't you bored of them already?
@Merylstreep1949
@Merylstreep1949 11 ай бұрын
UNIT headquarters definitely looks like Avengers tower
@jaziybabe
@jaziybabe 11 ай бұрын
That’s really funny about the vocab thing. I feel like there has been enough access to British television in the USA for years now, as well as various content creators, that most people have been exposed to British slang to some degree. Idk it just makes me giggle that people are still confused about that 😂
@SagesRS
@SagesRS 11 ай бұрын
Not much makes it over the pond. Doctor Who and Top Gear are the only two shows most Americans will know.
@jaziybabe
@jaziybabe 11 ай бұрын
@@SagesRS there is so much media past mainstream television shows
@sabrinatirabassi3529
@sabrinatirabassi3529 11 ай бұрын
Being italian, i can get both pram and stroller, no need to fuss.
@kevin10001
@kevin10001 11 ай бұрын
@@SagesRSactually now that streaming is a thing it’s easier to access British shows like red dwarf law and order uk and Sherlock for example even older British shows are available through the free with ads streaming apps
@SagesRS
@SagesRS 11 ай бұрын
@kevin10001 You are correct, but Americans don't have much of a taste for many British shows. I was implying Americans don't like to reach out of the US bubble often.
@bobbycoltrane7552
@bobbycoltrane7552 10 ай бұрын
People forget I remember when there were no Sonic screwdrivers ever in Who.
@burf90
@burf90 11 ай бұрын
Traditionally, a pram, as depicted in the episode, would be called a baby buggy in the US. It's for very young children and is basically a bed on wheels. A stroller is for older children, where they are more upright and able to see where they're going. However, today, with all the variations and multi-use versions they have on both types, stroller is probably the most often used term for all of them.
@weatherwitchandfelinefamiliars
@weatherwitchandfelinefamiliars 11 ай бұрын
Stroller then is a pushchair 😊
@SwiftFoxProductions
@SwiftFoxProductions 11 ай бұрын
Correct. However, depending on where you live in the US, "baby carriage" might be used a bit more than "baby buggy" (I'm an American and had forgotten about the term "baby buggy" until you mentioned it). But, as you indicated, "baby stroller" is, also, often used as a catch-all for anything you push a baby or small child in.
@burf90
@burf90 11 ай бұрын
@@SwiftFoxProductions Also correct. I'd forgotten the term baby carriage. LOL
@burf90
@burf90 11 ай бұрын
@@weatherwitchandfelinefamiliars Yep.
@Maeve_Rose
@Maeve_Rose 11 ай бұрын
or just a "stroller"
@jaziybabe
@jaziybabe 11 ай бұрын
Cautiously optimistic is the phrase you were looking for haha ☺️
@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture 11 ай бұрын
Skeptically optimistic!
@jaziybabe
@jaziybabe 11 ай бұрын
@@WhoCulture hahaha you have created a new phrase!!
@wolftitan
@wolftitan 11 ай бұрын
@@jaziybabe I guess you could say I'm still completely pessimistic.
@klaxoncow
@klaxoncow 11 ай бұрын
Pram is short for Perambulator. Perambulate means... to walk or stroll in a pleasurely or leisurely way. So, "stroller" and "perambulator" pretty much means the same thing, as "stroll" and "perambulate" both mean walking in a pleasurely and leisurely way. So it's identical semantics, really. But, like, "perambulate" is an old archaic word that no-one - not even ye olde Brits - uses anymore. And Brits abbreviate everything, so we say "pram" for short, as "perambulator" is, indeed, a long-winded mouthful to keep saying all the time.
@Mark-nh2hs
@Mark-nh2hs 11 ай бұрын
Perambulator sounds like a world destroying Dr Who Villain weapon 😂
@Rossy167
@Rossy167 11 ай бұрын
On britishisms and phrases. I’ve met plenty of Americans who can’t understand these in real life, but my take is that if you can’t pick it up by context you probably need to seriously work on your critical thinking skills. Weirdly, I’ve never met Australians or even ESL people who struggle with these things. Only Americans. I certainly hope we don’t start using more sterilised language to appear that crowd.
@MelsChaos
@MelsChaos 11 ай бұрын
I'm Aussie and I absolutely love Doctor Who. Been watching it for years. When I heard about Disney, I was worried about their influence so much I refused to watch the specials until late December, and I was pleasantly surprised. So far, I'm enjoying their influence. The only thing I hope - and this is a completely personal opinion lol - is that I truly hope they don't put too much singing and dancing. I get the third special with the Toy Maker (that scene was chaotically funny & NPH was amazing in it), and also the bit in the fourth with the goblins which was entertaining. An episode here and there is fine if the episode/plot calls for it, but I truly hope they don't throw it in for fun. That's why we stopped watching DC's Legends of Tomorrow in season five - it started to feel like it was written by fan fiction writers with the amount of singing it had (coming from a previous fan fiction writer 🤣). Even the part in Percy Jackson where Grover started singing in the bus made me cringe, and I skipped the singing under Medusa's place. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE music; I just don't like it in TV shows so much. But like I said, this is a completely personal opinion. DW is a sci-fi epic adventure series with fun, goofy, serious and emotional themes that put us through all the emotions we can experience at times - it isn't a musical show. A lot of people and writers love putting musical episodes, and like I said, if it suits the show/plot, I'm sure it'll be fine. If they do this, I truly hope they make the episodes sparse so it doesn't ruin the show.
@AntonDavey
@AntonDavey 11 ай бұрын
agreed
@fleason771
@fleason771 11 ай бұрын
I honestly agree but you can bet your arse/ass it will return once "Jinx" enters stage left..The costume screams it sadly. I hate musicals generally & I will tell you why. When I'm watching TV/film I want to believe in the irl world depicted (no matter how plausible) that's their world. If they start jumping up and down & singing incredibly well (& that was my major problem at Xmas) it takes me out of it & I might as well be in the West-End of London!! 😡
@MelsChaos
@MelsChaos 11 ай бұрын
@@fleason771 That's true. DW, though it's sci-fi, the characters are relatable enough and the plots are typically well thought out, that it makes us feel like we're in the show to an extent. Musicals ruin it.
@MelsChaos
@MelsChaos 11 ай бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman Exactly! I rarely watch musicals. I watched...Body Spray? Or whatever it's called.That one from years ago, can't even remember who starred in it now 😂 but I tend to avoid them. Musical episodes are rarely well done. Buffy's episode "Once More With Feeling" was executed perfectly and fit into the overall plot of the season, but that's in the 5% that get it right (in my personal opinion).
@gilgameshofuruk4060
@gilgameshofuruk4060 11 ай бұрын
​@Chixta637 I was going to mention "Once More With Feeling". It was a clever way to expose all the secrets and anxieties of the characters. It also gave us some great comedy and one of the outstanding villains. But it was probably the only series in which a musical episode could be a logical and pivotal plot moment.
@daarianaharis
@daarianaharis 11 ай бұрын
I hope they won't force the Britishness out of it. Phrases like "fit" and "pram" need to stay, and we need even more things that make it clear this is British, because that's part of its charm. If this become one more generic, US centric show, I think I can do without.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 11 ай бұрын
Pray to heavens that grossly-overrated HBO aka Warner Bros won't get its hands on it, then!
@lucalovic9935
@lucalovic9935 11 ай бұрын
the Disney funding is a great thing, it increased quality etc.. but I'm scared Disney will have too much power over Doctor Who and ruin it, as they did for many other shows/films in the past..
@BritGirlJay
@BritGirlJay 11 ай бұрын
Same. Just pay the bills and take the profits, but leave it alone otherwise.
@Nickie102
@Nickie102 11 ай бұрын
I feel like the main series would be primarily BBC & RTD. The Spin-Offs on the other hand. I can see at least one of them being very Disney flavored.
@172louis
@172louis 11 ай бұрын
Make you wonder if they are slowly aiming to buy Dr Who in there monopoly of buying all these franchises lately. Sweetening them up waving money to own it eventually. They need to be careful with Disneys true aim here.
@brianartillery
@brianartillery 11 ай бұрын
Disney are greed incarnate. They taint everything they touch, and squeeze every drop of creativity out of properties they own.
@Liver18
@Liver18 11 ай бұрын
@@172louisthey probably are, like waving sweets in front of babies
@viviannetodd4274
@viviannetodd4274 11 ай бұрын
The first thing I thought about the goblins was, "they look fake".
@Alucard45000
@Alucard45000 11 ай бұрын
I still want at the very least 2005- Doctor Who to be added to Disney+. Cause currently for me I have no way of watching Doctor Who, I can't even rent/buy any of the seasons on Prime..
@sabinajoh
@sabinajoh 11 ай бұрын
SAME I’m Swedish and I really want to watch the show legally. I’ve even tried writing to both the BBC and Disney+ :/
@katrose5179
@katrose5179 11 ай бұрын
It’s on Max, unfortunately.
@Alucard45000
@Alucard45000 11 ай бұрын
@@katrose5179 Which is unavailable in Europe as of right now, they say it will start rolling out to Europe Spring 2024. But what I don't understand, why can't it be on Max and HBO Max at the same time.
@thundervoid420
@thundervoid420 11 ай бұрын
No way that's profitable to the BBC you mean
@Alucard45000
@Alucard45000 11 ай бұрын
@@thundervoid420 What do you mean? For the show to not be available to people willing to watch it legally? What is not profitable for the BBC is most of Europe having to pirate the 2005-2022 seasons just to be able to watch it.
@DanielMerrick
@DanielMerrick 11 ай бұрын
Something I think they can do that would be fantastic is set an episode in the 70s or 80s and literally do that eras effects where everything is cardboard and aluminum foil and slowly transition to a massive CGI realization of the same setting. Also i think 15 has a lot of music in his movements. Disney please pay for some music rights and keep the Doctor dancing.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 11 ай бұрын
That's not what “music rights” mean.
@DanielMerrick
@DanielMerrick 10 ай бұрын
@@maazkalim I'm just saying the doctor can move through time and space. They can have a lot of fun with that music wise.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 10 ай бұрын
Ahh... I thought you were referring to original soundtrack.
@lucindasavona2278
@lucindasavona2278 11 ай бұрын
I find that Disney sanitises whichever show that take over. They tone down the violence, the horror, the humour, the inuendos disappeared, the sarcasim disappears, they removed any dark humour or darkness etc. They try to sprinkle the whole show with "fairy dust".
@ijustdidahugeshit
@ijustdidahugeshit 11 ай бұрын
I am a qualified lesbian and I am butch
@PeterLGଈ
@PeterLGଈ 11 ай бұрын
Goblins singing about eating a baby? A pretty good start. Oh, and that church-spire-up-the-arse death of the Goblin king? Ouch.
@ijustdidahugeshit
@ijustdidahugeshit 11 ай бұрын
@@PeterLGଈ I am a woman
@lurchy666
@lurchy666 11 ай бұрын
Fairy dust dont you mean woke dust
@ijustdidahugeshit
@ijustdidahugeshit 11 ай бұрын
@@lurchy666 I am planning to get pregnant
@amartian2
@amartian2 9 ай бұрын
Within at least my region of the US - Doctor Who was locked behind having Comcast as my cable provider. 2 problems with that, the first was that at various points in recent history I wasn't even able to have Comcast, due to the way the cable provider map is chopped up. The 2nd, is that when I did have Comcast for internet, it wasn't as simple as paying for the basic cable package, it was another $90 per month to have the package that included BBC America. For the whole of the Smith, Capaldi, and Whitaker eras, I was getting Doctor Who about a year late through Amazon - which for some reason isn't always streamable through the Amazon Prime Roku App, so I had to watch it on PC.
@ЯрославШ-ж9м
@ЯрославШ-ж9м 11 ай бұрын
Hope Ncuti would be a good Doctor, he is incredible actor
@margretrosenberg420
@margretrosenberg420 11 ай бұрын
I've watched all of The Doctors, from William Hartnell through Ncuti Gatwa. Except for The War Doctor (John Hurt) and The Fugitive Doctor (Jo Martin), Ncuti Gatwa's Doctor is the first one I've seen who was fully The Doctor instantly; all the others needed time to settle into the role. Ncuti is going to be a spectacular Doctor.
@DaleBaker-m8g
@DaleBaker-m8g 11 ай бұрын
It may all be well. My only problem is now, the Doctor is Indeed the timeless child Who is the Doctor? A timelord? Or from A race of modified humans? Another side of the Master? Well he certainly no longer the last of the timelords. Sure of course I am still on board 😃
@raphaelperry8159
@raphaelperry8159 10 ай бұрын
Four to five immersion breaking songs where the characters stop acting and start singing at the expense of believability in the plot and then go back to normal as if the song never happened in a mere four episodes! I think we've already seen the Disney effect (or, rather, heard it). It depends on if you count Ruby and the Doctor counter-singing the goblins as a separate song or not (it felt like enough of a disconnect to count as a separate song hence the four to five songs count).
@_andrewvia
@_andrewvia 11 ай бұрын
After Walt Disney passed on, "Disney" became a callous, sly, evil money machine, the same as Walmart (Malwart) after Sam Walton died.
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 11 ай бұрын
So it's been a money-grabber since 1966?
@_andrewvia
@_andrewvia 11 ай бұрын
@@andrewmurray1550 The Star Wars characters all have mouse ears now. You should see it! It's deplorable. - and I'm deploring it.
@TanzPolydactyl
@TanzPolydactyl 9 ай бұрын
I think the musical numbers are a big Disney influence. In all the show since it was revived in 2005, I can only think of five inclusions of music in an episode, and all were existing pop music. In season 1 episode 2 (The End of the World) we heard both "Tainted Love" (by Soft Cell) and "Toxic" (by Britney Spears) on the Juke Box. In season 2 episode 10, we got "Mr. Blue Sky" (by ELO). Then we had the Master with his two songs; first "Voodoo Child" (by the Rogue Traders) in season three episode 12 and then "Rasputin" in "The Power of the Doctor." But now we get three songs out of four of the specials, and have a Juke Box in the TARDIS and an upcoming Beatles episode, so we know we are getting more music. Obviously, Disney is know for its musicals, so I expect we will be hearing much more of them in the upcoming season. I also find it interesting that most people are comparing Disney's influence to the MCU rather than Star Wars, which are both on Disney+, and both have expanded universes and huge fanbases. Personally I am not into Marvel; I watched the Spiderman movies and the X-Men and Iron Man and Guardians of the Galaxy, but that's about it. OK, I did watch Jessica Jones, but that was mainly because David Tennant played the villain in it.
@Which-Craft
@Which-Craft 11 ай бұрын
I've been worried about the Disney thing, but I agree the snowman seen was on point even for existing Whovians trying to get a grip on who this new regeneration is. The pram is a baby carriage OR stroller, at least in the SE US. Fit dentist would be a hot dentist to GenXers, good luck with whatever is hot now. lol Skeptically optimistic is a perfect term!
@olb3587
@olb3587 11 ай бұрын
I think the term is "cautiously optimistic" 7:43
@DarioDarrow
@DarioDarrow 11 ай бұрын
Do they not have urbandictionary in the US? 🤨
@markbrown2640
@markbrown2640 11 ай бұрын
Another thing that you need to remember about practical versus CGI is that it would have taken three times as long to get the same photo quality with CGI as you did by taking advantage of Disney assets to make basically a Star Wars Muppet. 9:27
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 11 ай бұрын
Elaborate.
@alliex51
@alliex51 11 ай бұрын
I been watching since the eccelston series.. i hope they keep British dialogue just because of where the episodes take place... Localized slang for the episode content kinda makes sense
@roselewis24
@roselewis24 11 ай бұрын
I can’t believe you didn’t mention the soundtrack all the music was very Disney. Made me think I was watching a kids film in a few scenes.
@robboyte1101
@robboyte1101 11 ай бұрын
In the U.S., a pram is called either a baby stroller or a baby carriage.
@gilgameshofuruk4060
@gilgameshofuruk4060 11 ай бұрын
I think the word "Pram" has been used in the US at some stage because I read an article that was written a few decades ago about Charles Addams cartoons and I was surprised to see that word used. I'd assumed it was just a UK word.
@TK3477
@TK3477 11 ай бұрын
The Doctor retired. The 14th Doctor kept all the pain and memories and the Gatwa Doctor gave them all up. Your pain and memories are YOU. Without them, you're a blank slate. Just a carbon copy. A clone. No actual life to have lived but as much life as a baby has out of the womb. So I can't wrap my head around Disney's Doctor Who actually being Doctor Who. Clearly it was a bait and switch to the old fans that they want to keep while at the same time rebooting it to something entirely different. This is a perfect example of "If you wanted a character like the one Gatwa is playing, why buy Doctor Who to force it in there? Why not create your own instead of what could be called cultural appropriation?" The answer is because they don't have faith it will work and want that old audience so they have a leg up on attaining such an audience. Except it doesn't work. Fans liked what they had and something similar is not the same.
@johna5635
@johna5635 11 ай бұрын
A fit dentist is one who you would happily allow to take care of your cavities and fill them in.
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 11 ай бұрын
Indeed 😹😹😹 As long as I can take care her cavities too. 😈😈
@Freezyloen
@Freezyloen 11 ай бұрын
As a Dutch person (so not even a native English speaker) I did in fact know 'pram'. I actually thought it a relatively basic word, and would not know another for the object at the top of my head, so it's strange to me that that's one of the words people didn't know. Edit: I just clicked play again and I suppose stroller is another word. But that's such a broad term though is it not?
@jamesbrunk7002
@jamesbrunk7002 11 ай бұрын
This is one American that not only knows what a Pram is, but also watched Doctor Who beginning in 1980....it was available for PBS stations to pick up from them until its demise. I was lucky enough to reside in Phoenix which picked it up. We had a whole group that watched this together.
@williamcaldwell3212
@williamcaldwell3212 11 ай бұрын
Me too in nc
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 11 ай бұрын
Ellie!!! I *so* wanted the answer to this question!! So THANK YOU!!! You and Culture will help me make it to May!!! And I learned a long time ago, thanks to the 2005 revival and "Cold Feet," to look up British terms!
@SG20three
@SG20three 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the new video. The production value of the latest Doctor Who episodes looked really high and very cinematic in places. Hoping the extra Disney funding is backed up by some great storytelling and characters in the upcoming season. Also, I quite like the new sonic... remote?
@blockydude2253
@blockydude2253 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate the lack of alarmism and optimism. I think really the funding is the key contribution. Going forward with the increased marketing I think perception of influence will change but actual influence shouldn’t stay the same
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 11 ай бұрын
Uh-huh?!? Did you word that right?
@DrGamingPlays
@DrGamingPlays 11 ай бұрын
I hadn't heard of "pram" or "fit" before the Christmas special, but they are easy enough to get since they were in the right context (did they use the American words in the subtitles? I don't remember or didn't notice). I know people have been worried about Disney giving "notes", but really any stakeholder is going to do that. So far so good, Guess we shall see for series 1 and 2. As always, a great video.
@3wheelyboy
@3wheelyboy 11 ай бұрын
I'm Australian and I instantly knew what "pram" and "fit" meant. However, that may be because my grandparents are English or because we are saturated with British culture over here
@Liver18
@Liver18 11 ай бұрын
For some reason I thought Australia was saturated by American culture.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 11 ай бұрын
"Commonwealth" is the word, boy.
@prplshroud
@prplshroud 11 ай бұрын
Disney has destroyed everything its touched through acquisition (Muppets, Star Wars, Indiana Jones). Their involvement in Doctor Who gavely concerns me. I felt the Christmas special was a bit young compared to past Christmas specials. I'll continue to wait and see, but I have high expectations for a show I have loved since 1978 and a company I have despised for over 20 years now.
@ooooneeee
@ooooneeee 11 ай бұрын
I'm pretty worried myself, but a correction: Disney has not acquired Doctor Who.
@gilgameshofuruk4060
@gilgameshofuruk4060 11 ай бұрын
​@@ooooneeeeYet.
@Yattien89
@Yattien89 11 ай бұрын
@@gilgameshofuruk4060 No "yet" about it. I highly doubt the BBC will ever let them actually have it. It's one of their biggest IPs.
@gilgameshofuruk4060
@gilgameshofuruk4060 11 ай бұрын
@Yattien89 At one time, I'd have agreed, but maybe I'm getting a bit pessimistic about the way the BBC is going. I can't believe the way some of their most beloved archive shows were quietly sold to Universal for DVD distribution. It's an organisation under pressure and being governed by political appointees.
@josecervantes9260
@josecervantes9260 11 ай бұрын
As anMexican whovian,I am really happy becuase there are not many platforms like Disney plus that let us (legally) watch doctor who
@MasterOfTheStar1
@MasterOfTheStar1 11 ай бұрын
DOCTOR WHO IS THE BEST!!!!
@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture 11 ай бұрын
You know what… you’re right
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 11 ай бұрын
@@WhoCulture It is... Even if I love Star Trek (all of it) and Star Wars (most of it)
@withershin
@withershin 10 ай бұрын
I like to believe that The Doctor was a Ken in the Barbie Movie. Gosling had no chance to lose with The Doctor and his sonic tennis racket at his side. As a Canadian though Simu will always be my Ken.
@devry792
@devry792 11 ай бұрын
I've grow up with doctor who and in all honesty, I love the 15th doctor and I love how well they wrote the episodes, I just wish they did this with the 13th Jodie's doctor :(
@ikarig1103
@ikarig1103 11 ай бұрын
R.I.P Doctor who.
@kiplittle
@kiplittle 11 ай бұрын
1) "Pram" is a contraction of "perambulator" 2) Disney funding = "Mouse Money"
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 11 ай бұрын
M&M?
@InhabitantOfOddworld
@InhabitantOfOddworld 10 ай бұрын
2:13 - it worked okay for "Rose" back in 2005! Sometimes, less is more.
@aquillerjay4286
@aquillerjay4286 11 ай бұрын
I really hope that they keep Britishisms and quickyness that is very much a part of Dr Who it would lose a lot of it when Torchwood cleaned Airbus tv company became very homogenized and lost it British voice and sensibility
@michael_the_Hobbit
@michael_the_Hobbit 11 ай бұрын
Biggest complaint I have is that it's not available on UK Disney+ and that we're stuck with BBC iPlayer which many can't access as they don't want/have a TV Licence which you need to access it.
@lamiodahaqq
@lamiodahaqq 10 ай бұрын
90% of people using iplayer do not have a tv license
@KierenP
@KierenP 11 ай бұрын
My only concern with the Disney involvement is that whereas the BBC might continue to keep it going indefinitely as it’s a British institution, Disney might decide to pull the plug if the ratings drop below a certain level. What Disney has contributed so far though has been great.
@kevin10001
@kevin10001 11 ай бұрын
The snowman scene was a good production note from Disney but with the anniversary specials being loaded with references to the mcu it can be worrisome that Disney might have but the mcu mandate on there where the show has to reference Disney properties like the mcu has to
@duckypresents
@duckypresents 11 ай бұрын
Urgh I never thought about it that way.... although I doubt BBC had funding to keep it going forever.
@kirakoga
@kirakoga 11 ай бұрын
Completely agree with you!! Skeptically optimistic (?) sounds good, because even if I really liked all the episodes so far, I am really hoping Disney is not gonna come in and start censoring the good addition to the Doctor himself and the companion/secondary characters (ex. the Doctor being openly queer, or Rose herself being a trans woman, or a future character that we know is gonna be played by a drag queen and so on). Unfortunately we know that even when Disney is trying to be progressive, they only queerbait or just show 2 seconds of something that they deemed 'queer representation'. With Russell T. Davies back, I have GREAT expectations (mostly because of how we were robbed of a love story between the 13th Doctor and Yasmine) also based on what I read about the future characters they're gonna introduce and what I saw on the big trailer at the end of the latest DW special. So, let's hope Disney behaves.
@maazkalim
@maazkalim 11 ай бұрын
Where do you get all these paranoid fantasies?
@vladpop998
@vladpop998 11 ай бұрын
As a Marvel fan i do feel the superhero fatigue and turned to Dr.Who . I do waited for the specials and they were fine not great but solid enough . But the 3rd special was rubbish . Why get a new sonic for 15 if the 14's one had so much hype around and so little use . If the sonic is made from different era doctors why not the Tardis as well for 14's specials ? The Roth warriors seemed too human like , the Meep was ok , the second special i dont have much to say about it and then the 3rd special comes . Bigeneration , two of the same tardises , the new doctor just resets 1000+ years of pain and loss just like that ? If 14 will eventually become 15 , does that mean the doctor will have 2 of the same Tarsises ? 14's Tardis should reflect the age and gritinnes that 14 and past era incarnations had . I like the all white interior for 15 but that seems way to clean and sterile . For a Tardis that was considered a relic by the the time The Doctor "steals it" , that interior does not reflect that at all .That is a living beeing that was considered past its best era and it doesent show it . I still belive that 15 is too gitty to know how many lives were ended . 10 and 11 counted the children on Galifrey after he used the Moment . So it would be too hard to count a average number ? Lazy writing or The Doctor might just break and lose it . With The Time War reset and saved , the Flux , Galifrey destroyed again by the Master , all the companions that were killed in adventures with him and died in his name and he just gets past it ? Do they know how much of an arc 12 did pass , if he is truely a good man ? . That is unlike a Doctor to me and so strange to see him just roll past it . Saving one , two , three houndred people does not even scratch the surface of how much 15 has to do to become emotionaly stable .That face and smile doesent fool me at all . Sorry for that rant but i think it stands solid agains anything beeing thrown at it .
@gilgameshofuruk4060
@gilgameshofuruk4060 11 ай бұрын
The things that soiled the second and third speciasl for me were the goofy Loonie Tunes effects on the aliens and hitting the TARDIS with a big comedy mallet to make another. Also the giggle was a flawed concept as the original TV experiment was silent.
@vladpop998
@vladpop998 11 ай бұрын
Who will eventualy fall to the Disneyficaton thats going on lately on many franchises like Star Wars , Indiana Jones and the M-She-U mainly .
@bec1482
@bec1482 11 ай бұрын
Completely agree with you about the specials being fine but not great. I found them a bit underwhelming and they weren't what I was expecting. I do blame the trailer for this because the trailer led me to believe that it was going to be one big story featuring the Toymaker and it made the whole situation with Donna and other things seem a much bigger deal than they actually were. I mean the Toymaker was hyped up to the point where I thought he was going to be the main focus of the 60th so I was surprised when I realised he was only going to appear in one episode. I think the Toymaker is a really interesting underrated character that had a lot of potential so I felt only having him in one episode was a bit wasted in my opinion. I felt a similar way about the Meep too, I was expecting to see the Meep show up again and that there be more to it but there wasn't. I also think they missed a great opportunity in not including Tom Baker in that special, I mean it was originally a 4th doctor comic story until RTD decided to completely change it and turn it into a 10th doctor story instead. Left me dissapointed that did because if RTD had just made the comic story canon and come up with a new story for the 10th doctor and Meep, the 4th doctor could have featured and we could have had some brilliant dialogue between Tom Baker and Miriam Margolyes in the 60th. Those two togethor would have been so good. Another thing I found underwhelming was Donna remembering and her death. They hyped that up so much and made it seem like it was going to be one of the main focuses of the 60th but instead she died and came back to life in a matter of seconds and the whole thing was over and solved in the 1st special alone. It felt over too quickly and was solved all too easily, no real stakes involved. I also would have liked the 60th to have been one big story but instead we got three seperate stories that had nothing to do with each other and overall it just felt like I was watching an extension of series 4 rather than an anniversary special. I felt it was too focussed on the RTD era of the show, It's supposed to be the 60th yet I felt the other 55 years were missing from it. I know we had Mel and the Toymaker but that was it and the only other thing was that small flashback showing the 1st doctor and the Toymaker which was hardly anything. The Meep we saw wasn't even the Meep from the comics that met the 4th doctor so I'm not going to even count the Meep. But yeah considering there were three 1 hour epsiodes, I felt they could have had a few more cameos in there and acknowledged the past a bit more. I mean at the end in the last special they did briefly acknowledge that Sarah Jane had died and I just thought that it would have been nice if they had the two doctors reunite with Jo Grant along with Luke, Sky, Clyde, Rani and K9 from the Sarah Jane Adventures to give Sarah Jane a proper on screen farewell/tribute. I think she deserved more than a brief mention in my opinion. But I actually found the 1st special to be my least fav epsiode and my fav being the 3rd special so we are the opposite there but I agree with you on the 2nd special, I don't really have much to say about that one either lol. It's ok but not the best story ever. I think the reason why I was underwhelmed with the 1st one is because I went in with all these expectations and by the time the 3rd special rolled round, all the expectations I had for the 60th had gone out the window and I just accepted it for what it was, so I guess that why it's my fav out of the three. I also knew about the bi regeneration months before because of a rumour I saw online. So when RTD said that something in the 60th was gonna change everything, I was kinda expecting it to be the bi regeneration thing so wasn't surprised when it happened. So yeah sorry for the long comment, kinda got carried away but I agree with you that the 60th wasn't as solid as it could have been.
@gilgameshofuruk4060
@gilgameshofuruk4060 11 ай бұрын
@bec1482 With all the retconning and suchlike that's been going on in recent years, I'm glad Sarah Jane was just briefly mentioned. I'd hate to have her final "appearance" to be like that of the Brigadier, dug up out of his grave and turned into a Cyberman. Unforgiveable.
@vladpop998
@vladpop998 11 ай бұрын
@@gilgameshofuruk4060 damn i forgot that one . Another companion like character that continues to live on like Bill , Clara to some extend , Nardole , Danny Pink at a point , Rose , and now the Brigadeer .
@marianneootjers4786
@marianneootjers4786 11 ай бұрын
Dutchie here; when it came to English-language tv, via VHS and later dvd's I mostly grew up with British tv (apart from Snoopy and Thunderbirds (although Gerry Anderson was British)) with shows like Dad's Army, Catweazle, Are you being served, Black Adder, various incarnations of Sherlock Holmes, Morse, NewWho, Vera, British documentary shows like Time Team and more. And lest I forget; Monty Python. Thanks be to 'I have to push the pram a lot' from the Knights of the round table song for teaching me early on what a pram is :-P
@Jayk129
@Jayk129 11 ай бұрын
Great video/take Ellie. Personally I find the discussions of the Disney-fication of Doctor Who a little silly. Like what are people worried is gonna happen? Are they worried that Disney might make them write an entire 2 1/2 seasons about a little girl who gets a late night visit from a magical ageless imp who refuses to grow up and then becomes her imaginary friend who whisks her off on a fantastic adventure that includes battling pirates? Or maybe they’re worried they might mandate the inclusion of a character that is very clearly inspired by multiple well known Disney characters like say mixing Cinderellas evil step-mother with Mary Poppins or something silly like that. Maybe they’re worried Disney might make Doctor Who use one of their crappy live action movies as the basis for an episode. Like an episode where The TARDIS suddenly happens upon a spaceship or space station mysteriously safely orbiting a black hole only to be chased by a big red devil inspired monster. Maybe they’ll make them wholesale rip-off a classic Disney animated movie like say Robin Hood including using a concept as ridiculous as rhinoceros cops. Worse yet maybe they’ll make them include stuff from their other brands like Star Wars and Marvel. God knows we’d never want Doctor Who to introduce a N*zi inspired intergalactic Empire as a villain or do a whole Christmas special about a superhero. I think Doctor Who will stay pretty much the same with Disney’s partnership, plus I can’t wait to ride Daleks of the Caribbean.
@sheyannev2757
@sheyannev2757 11 ай бұрын
I could only identify most of what you were referencing but this is my exact same opinion. My only worry of the "disney-fication" was that things would start to look too high budget and lose the charm of looking a little wonky and dated
@mystic_mimi21
@mystic_mimi21 11 ай бұрын
I think the worry is that Disney is very conservative and may not want such a progressive stance like calling out capitalism, calling out war profiteering or monopolising media etc etc. also Mary Poppins isn’t an original Disney character but a British story so a bit of a stretch
@sheyannev2757
@sheyannev2757 11 ай бұрын
@@mystic_mimi21 "may not want such a progressive stance like calling out capitalism" well, they can't do it worse than Kerblam, that's actually the episode that made me give up on 13
@yensid4294
@yensid4294 11 ай бұрын
@keriwebb6988
@keriwebb6988 11 ай бұрын
A pram is a stroller or baby carriage. Fit basically means cute/hot/sexy. If people don't understand the words, just Google it lol. I am not a fan of the "sonic screwdriver" look either.
@darthwingnut464
@darthwingnut464 11 ай бұрын
Just so long as they don't try to Americanize it to the extent they did that horrible made for tv movie with Paul McGann (he is awesome and I'm glad the audio stories, and his chance to reprise the role a few years back).
@lineandersen3329
@lineandersen3329 11 ай бұрын
Haven't thought much about the disneyfication of doctor who. I was just so happy to be able to watch the show again! Because doctor who haven't been available anywhere here in Denmark since the 12th doctors first series. So I just really hopes things goes so well that we could hope to get some of the previous doctors series on Disney too
@Real_The_Goof
@Real_The_Goof 11 ай бұрын
The goblin ship is what we call an "air ship".
@Rawveggie
@Rawveggie 11 ай бұрын
Skeptically optimistic = Cautiously optimistic (or there abouts) which is a phrase I have heard more commonly. Either makes sense though.
@anhurtorrez
@anhurtorrez 11 ай бұрын
I have been a fan of Doctor Who since the 70s and as far as I am concerned, yes I am from the United States, is that they are going to disneyfy it. As seen in the last episode of the 3 part, and the Christmas episode we already are seeing it. I don't remember seeing many Doctor Who where they go into a song and dance, also what's up with the sonic screwdriver?
@Tomtainius
@Tomtainius 11 ай бұрын
Every season 1 episode needs a video of Ellie translating its Britishisms 🤣
@daled4191
@daled4191 11 ай бұрын
Considering Disney's latest track record, I have low hopes for the new series. feels like we have gone full circle and back to 1990s movie era.
@MysticFusion7
@MysticFusion7 11 ай бұрын
I think the most impressed aspect of all the extra money provided by the Walt Disney Company is the ship from Wild Blue Yonder. CGI was a bit wonky with other doctor and donna but I think its good that the Walt Disney Company is helping the BBC out. The intro sequence is probably the best opening I've seen since the 2008 sequence and overall they have a lot more to work with. Plus its more accessible to a lot more people. Doctor Who from the modern era kept jumping from streaming service to streaming service and it got annoying. Disney Plus is the way to go
@Maddharl
@Maddharl 11 ай бұрын
I thought you lot said a few months ago Disney wouldn’t have the power to change Doctor Who. Yea I smelled bullsh!t then too
@jpistolas
@jpistolas 11 ай бұрын
The singing & dancing goblins were near painful, pure cringe. I'm not quite feeling the new sonic either but otherwise I've enjoyed the new Who episodes.
@ethanmyers6406
@ethanmyers6406 11 ай бұрын
I am a little worried they are going to go all in with the costumes and effects to the detriment of the story. A good story can make up for janky and less than stellar SFX, but amazing visuals can NOT make up for bad writing. For me, Doctor Who has never been about how flashy things looked, it was always about the writing. I really wanted to like Jodi's doctor, but I gave up on the lack of a good story. The writers really did her dirty.
@tinascousin
@tinascousin 11 ай бұрын
I’m sorry, but we live in an age where everybody has a device and an internet connection in their hand (or very close to it) basically all the time. If you’re an American and it’s so difficult to read the context and understand what certain words mean, how hard is it to pick up your phone and Google the words “pram” and “fit”? I mean, sure, Disney = American. But must we pander to the cultural blindness of an American audience who know nothing beyond the established boundaries of extant American culture, by continually making a point of discussing all the words they supposedly don’t understand? Let’s try this for an Americanism they might understand: “we could care less”. Multitasking is supposed to be second nature for the target audience anyway so… come on, Americans, Google the sh!t out of that stuff and just catch up while you’re watching 😜
@LarrysLibrary
@LarrysLibrary 11 ай бұрын
Why doesn't D+ have the back catalog up yet? It seems to have been removed from BBC USA!
@gulffire117
@gulffire117 11 ай бұрын
I hope that the PTB don’t feel the need to dilute the “Britishness” of the series to make it more accessible to a world-wide audience. Americanizing the final season of Torchwood was very detrimental IMO (and I’m American!) If you don’t understand British phrasing, well that’s what Google is for.
@TerryGShaw
@TerryGShaw 11 ай бұрын
Taking success that the BBC and Disney had with airing Bluey together, they are taking a chance with an iconic british tv show in Doctor Who.
@debshaw680
@debshaw680 11 ай бұрын
I think millions of Americans love Doctor Who for what it is. I doubt they’re going to Americanize it. That’s what torched Torchwood.
@johnbliss9330
@johnbliss9330 11 ай бұрын
Fit = Hot; Pram = Baby Carriage But really, where have my fellow Americans been? Under a rock?
@fleason771
@fleason771 11 ай бұрын
Ask Disney where they found that test audience from & we will know where to avoid them!! 😂
@simonbarnes8303
@simonbarnes8303 11 ай бұрын
Was Dr Who always goofy? I think it had moments of humour but it also had moments of horror which seems to have disappeared completely. If you watch the The Talons of Weng-Chiang or the Horror of Fang Rock you had humour but also suspense. In this last episode we lost this as the horror was coupled with a song and dance routine. I'm surprised you didn't mention the 2 songs in the 4 episodes as well. For me this isn't what Dr Who should be doing and thats before we mention Goblins and pirate ships which surely is fantasy and not sci-fi. These are massive changes which I don't think work at all however I don't think we can blame Disney for these. It's all down to RTD and so far the stories have been poor. Don't tell me beating the Toymaker by winning a game of catch is good writing.
@marionbaggins
@marionbaggins 11 ай бұрын
I agree these problems are RTD's style not Disney involvement!!!
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 11 ай бұрын
I don't think the stories were poor. On the other hand, pumping up the suspense and horror would not be bad, it would be more true to the spirit of the Doctor.
@royalewithbees6541
@royalewithbees6541 7 ай бұрын
Pram is shortened slang for Perambulator and it is THE most Victorian British sounding word I have ever heard lol
@PlaaasmaMC
@PlaaasmaMC 11 ай бұрын
I just really hope they don't fully disney it up man, I can only watch 9-12 so many times
@Bman-dr8hx
@Bman-dr8hx 11 ай бұрын
I’m American and I’m surprised that some Americans didn’t know what a pram was. Pram and stroller are different in my opinion. Fit I might have taken as physical fit.
@josephcooter5763
@josephcooter5763 11 ай бұрын
This just in Beep the Meep will return in a future episode. Only this time he will have a side kick with him who is almost as evil: Miss Piggy.
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 11 ай бұрын
Wicked!
@momaw_C1-10P
@momaw_C1-10P 11 ай бұрын
As an Australian I love that we get all the British humour and language, and the American humour and language
@mortal6134
@mortal6134 11 ай бұрын
No goodbye from Ellie? 😢
@guywilliams5016
@guywilliams5016 11 ай бұрын
However successful Who is on Disney, eventually audiences will drop and Disney will want out. What happens then: will the BBC be allowed to keep making the show or will Disney have the power to kill it?
@TheGeekAuthority
@TheGeekAuthority 11 ай бұрын
I clearly see Russell dialed up the "woke" factor, but in more of a good way than bad, but I see the beginnings of the pattern of Disney doing what they did with Marvel and Star Wars - too much, too many franchises - story and characters taking 2nd fiddle to SPFX and over saturating to the point no one cares. I liked the 4 DW specials, see my reviews, but I just wish it wasn't Disney involved. For obvious reasons. ( In my American opinion.)
@jwb52z9
@jwb52z9 11 ай бұрын
Why did it cut off abruptly like that?
@carschmn
@carschmn 11 ай бұрын
I am all for it. As an American without cable, this is the first time I haven’t had to subscribe to an extra service or pay individually for Doctor Who (already had Disney +)
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